I stopped trying to determine just who is led by the Holy Spirit. I take folks at their word. But they differ. The 4 Gospels differ per perspective. Isn't this just clear as a bell that God works through us all differently and that those imposing their revelations on another is false. Everyone who knows the Holy Spirit cannot be wrong, but everyone does can be right.
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Hi Yves it has been a bit, I hope all is well. What I am talking about in perspective is less than you. Just like where they we standing. A different viewpoint. Yes the loving spiritual perspective is the same even with the physician Luke. Thanks
I don't know what "less than you" means or "where they were standing" means either. Over my head, I guess.
The only thing I know is that we can ask the Holy Spirit for discernment...
Yves, you are talking about a spiritual perspective. I am referencing a physical perspective. Mine of man, yours of God.
Ha ha. You must resist these 'temptations when you can.' All we have is this Eternal Now and before it leaves this mortal coil, it is my understanding, that each Soul feels that it has wasted time.
Manatita... What?? No offense, but psychobabble, however popular and unchecked, is not useful. Nevertheless, it is accepted as truth by many. Unfortunately.
You remind me Dana that in my age, when I learn something really cool from the Bible I say "I knew that!!" I do that morning reading, meditating and prayer thing. A day without the Bible in it is a wasted day.
Your words touch my heart. I agree with you completely here. My study of gods word draws me closer and compels me to dig deeper. Thank you for the reminder.
Tim I set this aside to come back for it. You left out the concept of this idea of an obligation to rebuke. How does that fit in?
Hello. Eric. I’m trying to connect obligation of rebuke to the context of the OP regard imposing a revelation. Hard to answer reply w/o context. Why? Peeking rebuke is used 105 X w/different meanings, uses, users & instructions = discussion ;-)
Hi Tim sorry so late -- I was out in space working on the concept of microseconds of love, fascinating. I think you and I are kind of both scratching our heads about whatever it is to tell another believer they are wrong. Paul seems loving.
Yes, it is a head scratcher. Being told I am wrong vs. someone saying they disagree with me are two entirely different things. (Rebuke vs. Understanding → RE: Opening OP) Both have one. A beginning point of furthering understandings = dialogue.
Tim, The "Who?" is biblically answered by Isa 7:14-16's 2 kings over the abhorred land, death, being god and devil & 45:7 suggesting they are both the same entity. Just food for thought.
Elijah I am not seeing it in your scripture. Just too vague for me.
ED, Isa 7:16's "abhorred land" is death which must be forsaken before "the child" choses, 45:7 say god is continually making peace and creating evil so god is the "WHO" that is determining what each person understands and why they understand it.
I really like how you use scripture, far more powerful than quoting. I worry hear if we cannot use Descarte, Plato, Buddha or Dalai Lama to learn from. I have learned much from the spiritual teachings about our earth from Navajo-Dine'.
Some of them were very kind loving people. We can learn from their kindness,and but I don't add idols to my worship. Jesus himself condemned the temple for doing the same or buying and selling in the place of worship. I have learned that it's wrong.
Peter that is very smug, self righteous and amazingly rude. If I see you again I will know you are not sincere and the worst type of troll. And by the way keep working on your language arts they are deplorable.
Peter you already said that you are just playing and not sincere. Please go elsewhere. Trolling is really a strange thing to do.
Eric, If you've read Siddhartha The Buddha you may see he represent the process of Genesis 2:24. The flame purifies good and evil out of our minds and the sword cuts us say from attachments for returning to living environmentally as Adam had been.
Terrie -- are you really going all "Inquisitor" on us? Flushing out Satan because Luther dares to defy and K. James changes things. Just whose doctrine from Ngostics to Puritans do you grade another by? Of course there is rightful influence. Frances?
Oh Eric. I am not sure what you mean by that. There are basics that we need to follow in order to serve Christ, his way. To honour him and I studied many teachings and it's lead me to Christ. That's my point. Jesus himself said there are many gods.
Beautifully said and well done. So clearly you are expressing concern over shifting our belief system into one that is just plain and simple not xxx dang that is where I get into trouble - not what?
Eric maybe this will help you see where I come from. I've learned about Buddha, have Muslim friends,went to catacism,penicostal church and youth group.As a child went to Anglican.I have learned from each. Spent time with Mormons teaching. Still learn
Right on Terrie. Mismo. I am constantly walking a great line of learning that I can retract from and do every morning in Bible reading, meditation, listening and prayer. So far with that it comes out love and that is the two real commandments.
Beautiful. You said this so wonderfully. This is exactly how I feel. Study, learning asking for guidance is the best way.Gain knowledge and grow in faith,not believing something because it's what you were always told. But read, learn and base on word
Wonderful Rosetta with no published works here and a murky profile. Your notion of "divide" is found where? Are you are Spirit filled? The question comes about two of us Christians who differ with the Spirit. "Wars against spirit"???
RC, "By their fruits you shall know them" means their lives, teachings, lack of judging and other things the gospels shows the christ did not do will be seen in all who claim to follow him; as "Christian" means per Acts 11:26.
I like your answer, Kathleen. Much wisdom here, especially the second para.More personal.
I like this Kathleen. This always reminds me of being a parent. I simply do not speak to any of my children just the same. Each is different and each is special and need different things from me.
There is such a thing as moral absolutes. Anyone who says otherwise is just one more person who has chosen to ignore Scripture in favor of their own preferences. Metaphysical mush sounds nice, but it is worthless & is devoid of Truth.
Interesting to note Elijah. I am more inclined to hold to a circular notion on the levels of man's consciousness. I do not see my arms and legs going where my brain does. The linear timeline concept eludes my acceptance. Maybe I was better before.
How to reap what we so if I killed someone and died naturally? I reincarnate as the person killed feeling how they felt being killed, the same with rape and everything else, each life-force experiences both sides of man's life experiences.
This question is about the. Bible and the knowledge and wisdom people obtain as they grow in gods word. What you have posted here is not from the Christian bible or taught by christ. The idea of reincarnation voids Jesus sacrifice for our sins.
Terrielynn, You opinion is received.
Elijah please don't call what I said, my opinion. It's in the bible gods word, not mine. Many others know the same through study of the scriptures and the teaching of Christ. We are warned by his word not mix the teachings of other religions with his
Terrie I think I know where you are coming from and I appreciate that.I just wonder sometimes why God made Ghandhi and Mandela and even you with an intellect and the ability to translate learned texts -- of what purpose?
Hi Eric. With respect, you asked so I'll answer you. We are not all made of god. We are imperfect and the cause of our genetics and surroundings. There are many gods. But almighty god exacts exclusive devotion. Study shows us and teaches the truth.
Terrie if you follow your theologic bent then you say it is wrong for doctors to use penicillian for healing is only retained by God. Vietnamese Christian is so different that Paris Catholic. Are you comfortable casting billions of souls out?
Eric my friend, iam not sure why you call it bent. I wish there was more then 250 words here. I cast no one out. Only god and Christ have that authority. We can only study learn and ask for guidance.Decernment and knowledge tells us what isn't from h
TL, Many things are in the Bible but people's judgments only allow then opinions rather than UNDERSTANDING. Your "We are not all made of god. We are imperfect..." is an opinion, Isa 45:7 say everything is perfect for their purposes.
Elijah, the bible says we are not perfect. That's part of why it took christs sacrifice a perfect man in exchange for or sins. This is not my opinion. I study In order to improve my understanding and to dwell on gods word. Did I misunderstand you?
TL, Imperfections are in the sight of judging man of both genders who don't realize everyone is perfect for the purpose of their incarnation. Accepting all things were made by god (Isa. 45:7) reveals everything is prefect for god's purpose.
God is perfect, Christ is perfect. We are not. I am imperfect all humans are. I am broken, but thanks to god that's how the light gets in. If you are perfect why are you still here with us mere mortals. I will study and learn and grow in knowledge.
TL. See it - if you can - from the standpoint that you are a Soul, made in the image of Spirit. The physical Temple is fleeting, but the Soul is a Divine spark of Light and as such immortal. You seem to have a lot to deal with here. Take a break.
Manatita what an interesting thing to say. Thank you. Time to read. Have a beautiful day.
TL:-I can feel your Heart. God is impartial, true, but has a very special Love for His devotees. Loving thoughts.
Terrie and all, I question this notion of "broken" as Terrie let's us know. Is it not more correct to say "I was broken"? I was a creepy crawly low down beast before. But I do not feel broken any longer. I fact I find I heal others.
Good morning Eric. Yes maybe I was terribly broken. But I am not completely healed either. My healing comes from our Heavenly Father. It's a process and continues on.
Really good point Terrie. Personally I prefer not to graduate from life yet. Maybe you are more correct. I am just less broken than before. At our Anniversary dinner my wife proclaimed that I was yuk when she married me, and now not so bad ;-)
I like that Eric your wife sounds cool. I was only 18 when I got married. Yes I would I was yuk. My husband is a beautiful man and he has helped me heal. I think now he would agree with your your wife.
TL, perfection can produce imperfection, as I said before, your opinion is received.
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