Many believers can't understand that a person can be happier without religion in their life. What are your thoughts?
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Speaking for myself only... Now that I am an atheist, I live my life "soberly in the light of truth." My life has much more meaning now that it's my only one. It ebbs and flows smoothly since it's not at the mercy of an invisible force.
Most people have always tried to control their emotions instead of using them 4 what they R: guides directly connected to 'The One' to let U know how 'on' or 'off' you are. Imagination is also imperative in our lives. Look up Law of Attraction.
If your religion is your truth, then let that be. I do not try to pop anyone's bubble. Whatever blows your skirt up and helps you through the day is fine. You do know the saying, that religion is like a penis. it is fine to have one, it is fine to ev
True Believers have a steady peace? Some do, most don't. And if they are peaceful, why do they lash out at others hatefully, fearfully?
It's a shame that anyone is persecuted for the way they live their life. (As long as they aren't proselytizing). It shouldn't have to be that way!
Thank you, I can't say it better. I'm vefy sorry for the jerks who harrased you. I stay away from Christians unless I know they are the real thing, inclusive and intelligent
I agree with all 4 of your points and actually agree with Oz about Trump too. I am MUCH happier as an atheist than being forced to worship a mythical magic man in the sky, (or go to hell). The costs and guilty feelings of religions are just too high.
The blissfully ignorant are often low IQ BELIEVERS.
Ethics and law evolved out of religion.
We are now down to statistical analysis which is incomplete.
Churches are places where people socialise. That is probably a primary reason why many people go. They become part of a community. This does not necessarily have any link to their personal belief.
Wow, I didn't know some atheists set up churches. They could use the Quakers. I'm not interested in aguing for or against religion or no. I leave people alone. And I'm quite happy doing that which is my purpose. Oh I'm 75
But is happiness from pot smoking true happiness?
Of course there are no stats.
PS we finally have something in common ie amazement at why some atheists love the Rev Donald.
Ok... I don't see where anyone made any reference to pot smoking. Let's not resort to straw man arguments. I doubt anyone is saying that drugs bring true happiness.
Scandinavia and other certain countries have legalised pot.
So has Colorado and several other places in the U.S. I don't see a correlation between pot smoking and atheism. I know quite a few religious people who can show Biblical support for pot.
How can you see American Christians falling all over Trump like he's their savior and still say religion doesn't require "a schizophrenic ability to harbour gross ethical contradiction within their own ethical systems"? & Jenner is a Christian.
As I said the question here focuses on atheists.
That said, many stupid fundamentalists are following with their wrong paradigm by sticking with the Rev. Donald.
What gives you the idea Trump has more than a minuscule number of atheist supporters? He stands against everything humanists stand for. He's against human rights, freedom of religion, science, education, healthcare, and has started two wars.
Judging by the hubpages atheists there seems to be a 50/50 split.
Of course statistics need to be looked at.
I'm amazed as you at atheists supporting Donald.
Ah, there's your problem. I know zero irl. Your sample is way off. I've made similar errors regarding what % of Christians support Trump. Less than 50% of US Christians support Trump - but it comes off as all of them going by their online presence.
Why 50% Of either believers or atheists live Donald is a cause for serious concern.
The question here refers mainly to atheists.
I'd buy into the 'ethical vacuum' issue atheists have. That exists bcuz their spiritual beliefs aren't quite right, either - just like their uber-religious counterparts. And yeah, atheists are in bed with conservatives & Trump. Its mindboggling.
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I tend to agree with this philosophy. I am content to let bygones be bygones. Others follow the Hitchins school of thought in which religion should be actively opposed.
Exactly right. We are all different.
So a non-believer's life has no direction?
Good point. Happiness is quite subjective. I would say I feel more fulfilled with my life without religion. The happiness stems mainly from the lack of guilt I feel about every "wrong" thought or action that might jeopardize my immortal soul.
You are exactly right. Nuff said.
Secular Social Justice warriors do that, too, and because they see everyone as oppressed by society, they are chronically angry.
Many things wrong with that sweeping statement, Tamara - not the least of which: your accusation is a great way to ignore & dismiss the actual 'oppressed' (abused, raped, etc.) among us. Things R not so black & white. Grey & other colors
That is so, but the reverse is also true. Atheists will take full responsibility however, the religious will blame failure and disaster on the devil.
Is it too ironic to say "amen?" I am a huge proponent of personal responsibility. It drives me nuts when people abandon all sense of self in pursuit of religious beliefs.
Religion or god for me is not for blaming or passing your failure. its for self realization and internal peace the rest depends on your hard work and knowledge...do weather a an Atheist or a believer we should keep both the things differently....
It probably does make people happier if they can believe anything they want is real instead of being bound by the confines of reality. Why not live your real life as best you can instead of just hoping you'll get a magic one later that's better?
But who's definition of "hope" is the right one? I personally don't need hope of an afterlife to give my current life meaning.
You can't be happy in this life unless you have hope that you get another one? That doesn't sound like happiness to me. Quite the opposite, really.
I know many atheists personally who used to be Christian, and now feel so much happier now that they have left religion.
You all say this because you have no permanent problem ... You all have a healthy body and you all have money.
That's hilarious! I'm slowly dying of lupus and suffer constant, chronic pain. I'm also so broke it's a choice between buying medicine and paying rent most months. Why would that make any difference in what's real?
So you want to dangle another better life in front of people with problems? If I learned one thing from people with cancer is to see what is right here...
Regularly I'm happy, sometimes not so, more often it's good enough, but it's all ok.
No 'confines of reality' & situations of people like Kylyssa R not set in stone. Jesus healed people by 'not believing' in their illness tho it existed - based on the Law of Attraction. Look it up. Afterlife exists but not required 4 happiness.
Why are atheists without hope? How can you make such big assumptions about what is best for others? That is the beginning of intolerance.
So I think I'm happy? Hahahaha. actually I don't think religion has any meaning anymore. It was used to control people and still is. Do I live a life of the spirit, Yes I do and the native American system is pretty nice. Heck, I live a good life now
Perhaps "happiness" is not the correct descriptor. Although I would say I am happier without religion, a more accurate term would be fulfilled. I feel like my life has more purpose now that I am not just trying to get to an afterlife.
what a crock of shit
Those who have no argument must attack the messenger. BTW, you are a perfect example of what I was talking about in my post. Thanks for the confirmation!
I know many GOP have this perception of peeps who believe unlike they do; but there R probably as many Christians in Dems as GOP. I'm not Dem but they R more inclusive. This us or them mentality is what is harming us, our country & the world.
You may have a point, I have a tendency towards an us or them mentality, at least that's what my wife says.
I looked on their website and I only found a study citing the decline of Christianity and it said nothing about happiness. I'd love to know to what study you are referring.
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Ignorance really is bliss, I suppose! If I thought the world was going to end any day and I'd be whisked off to a magical land, I'd be pretty content to ignore the state of the world too. Just too bad that promise is over 2,000 years old.
Perspective is everything. Revelations isn't about J's 2nd coming or an apocalypse & this single distortion of belief has been incredibly harmful on our world. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-carey/revelatio...
Even beyond Revelation, Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet and preached about the end of the world. He stated that some would not taste death before they saw the Son of Man coming to his kingdom. The entire religion is based on "the end is near."
hum, do you realize you've, just like the Trump people, counted everyone except white men and women as deserving and have dumped some of them. I'm a Composer and I am happy in my choices, I am not a victim. I am unemployed (I'm 75) I'm poor, ha I'm h
You are right. Any believer who feels a need to judge others or act on 'bad' judgement has discord within that irritates their soul simply bcuz they are not looking & seeing others through the love God has for every soul no matter what.