I believe there is a real difference between those who call themselve Christians and those who are disciples of Christ. Do you believe there is a difference between the two?
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I assume; "14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet" Point and not convert. A good thought.
PandN- I have to agree. Thanks.
Eric- Would you explain what you mean by "Point and convert". You lost me there.
KC- U think my anwer was way off base. I have been studying Noah and at that time There were definitely over 1000 people on the earth. 1000 = 1% so probably the way things are today 1% maybe?
Charlie-you answer of 1% is likely more correct than my 5% to 8%
But clearly those two billion who call themselve "Christians are a joke..
Alian- I don't believe you understood the question. Basicly it's asking of the billions claiming to be "Christians", how many do you think are true disciples of Christ? There IS a difference.
Apologies, I went out of question. They are quite a few getting an exact percentage or an approximated number is difficult.
Ryan Hutzel- Thank you for your answer. I realize there are no exact numbers we can come up with. However I do believe there are far fewer Disciple of Christ's than those who claim to be "Christian. And there is clearly a difference between the two.
RH- your concept is contrary to scripture. It is not a matter of the heart anyone claiming to be Christian shows by words or actions, their beliefs, as you have done. All one has to do is compare them to scripture, judge their fruit as required
RH- to continue my comment..........disciples of Christ is not just a matter of being like Jesus, but to BE as Jesus did. I can not think of a single so called Christian who is like any of the twelve disciples who Jesus taught. By seeking His Kingdom
In my home Jesus Christ is first. We have discussed and prayed on it. There simply can be no complete love of another if there is no preeminent Love of God.
But do you really think it that low? "few"?
Charlie I agree, but I think the number in my opinion is about 5 to 8%. It could be even less but I hope not.Thanks for your answer Charlie.
KC- I actually rated it higher than It seems to me to avoid some of the vehement attacks that I expect this will bring from some of the church system followers
Owen Skelton-I'm not sure how your answer is directly related to the question asked. And I do not believe God PUT sin into the world. Satan did.
But didn't God put the only being capable of sin and the conduit for it on the earth? That is an interesting distinction. And didn't God place Satan?
Eric- I do not want to get off subject. but dragging in sin or no sin.
I am not saying right or wrong here but you just made sin not a criteria for being a true disciple as to what you believe one is. You and Charlie come close to pharisees.
Eric- What part of " I don't want to get off subject" is above your level of understanding.
I am sorry KT - what part of it is not off topic don't you understand?
Just moderate me off or explain why it is off topic. In another question you said to the effect that real Christians do not sin anymore. See Question What is a true Christian?,
eric-you call those that teach truths that liberals like you reject pharisees when in fact you are the pharisee. Jesus said we must DO ALL He requires of us or we cannot enter His kingdom. You admit to rejecting more of His than you accept
Charles you do realize that what you say here is opinion correct? HS or not it is still just your opinion. If you think you are the law of Christianity then you are not a pharisee - you are a Sadducee. No different than any preacher. Different law?
eric- i wii be happy to continue the conversation elswhere, KC has asked us to stay on the subject.
Of course Charlie. And my apologies for drifting. I came close to being rude to all. Thank you KT for your patience. I think you are right Charlie I will try to draft such a question that is not slanted on the subject.
Thank you both.
Eric- Jesus once said; " Go out and make disciples of all nations......"
It took Jesus three and a half years to make twelve disciples. But Christians can make hundred of converts in a day.
I think Jesus had it right.
Yes KC that is why I cited Matthew 28. A call to lead folks from darkness into light. And if it is God's work we should be cheerful no matter how daunting the task.
Rich Kelly- per your request, I have removed all your comments to this question