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Can Christians Play Pokémon?

Updated on August 23, 2017

Is Pokemon Too Violent?

What is this game about? Catching them all? It's about becoming the ultimate Pokémon master. How do you do that? By catching them all, and training them to fight and win battles.

Does that sound so bad? What if I told you that there was a new kids game about cock fights? Don't get me wrong, I play games more violent then Pokémon, but this game is geared to little kids, and I don't think its right to expose them to this kind of violence, especially when its for selfish gain. Isn't forcing creatures to fight so you can be the ultimate master of Pokémon kind of selfish?

Even before they evolve the Pokémon attack by biting and scratching each other. Can you imagine a game about puppies attacking each other like that. Some how the fact that Pokémon are not real makes them maiming each other acceptable. After they evolve they gain attacks that could out right kill each other. Should killing other peoples pets for fun and profit go unnoticed?

Disagree all you want but that's what this game boils down to in my opinion. This is concerning enough, let alone when the game is geared to kids.

Pokemon Evolving

When Pokémon evolve they grow and sprout talons or horns or some other deadly improvement. Only Pokémon that are successful at battle evolve vary much. It almost seems dog eat dog. The Pokémon are rewarded for being violent, and so are you for teaching them to be violent. And there reward is the opportunity to do more damage then before. It's a never ending cycle of violence. Oh did I mention this is a kids game?

Depending on their element, they may fight by belching fire, psychic attacks, casting spells, spraying poison clouds, crushing moves and crippling mayhem. At this point, they really appear to be monsters.

All Pokémon have different stats and abilities that you most have memorized in order to be a successful trainer. Demons are the only monsters out there from a christian perspective. And the notion that some are weaker then others (even though this might be true,) and that they need to evolve to become more powerful (this is definitely not true,) invites disaster in my opinion. What if I told your kids that bears are not dangerous until they get to be older and they believed me and got hurt because they did not think that the bear was dangerous yet. And even if they did not believe me you would make sure that I would never do something like that again. Aren't demons more dangerous then bears? Telling a kid that they are not all dangerous, and even going as far as to say that they are cute and you can control them is ridiculous and unsafe.

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Pokemon and the Occult

A study of eastern mysticism and the occult reveals striking similarities:

Most emphasize earth, wind, rain, and fire as a source of power. Pokémon includes those in its energy cards.

Reincarnation is often found to be a basic belief. In the game, the monsters actually die to their old self and evolve into the new, more powerful Pokémon.

Spirit guides can be summoned by the practitioner. They tell what they see, fight with other spirits, guard, and carry out assignments given by the medium.

Pokémon monsters do this for their "trainers" children playing the game as well.

A"peaceful" spirit is called a pika-chu. The cartoon's hero has a pet that battles Pokemons and protects him called, you guessed it, Pikachu.

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      Anonymous 22 months ago

      Nothing in pokemon is the least bit occultic. All of the arguments about this are undeniably ignorant. They aren't spirits, they're pocket monsters. THe creator himself, satoshi Tajiri, said in TIME magazine Pokemon were based from bugs, which are animals. you don't summon them either, you send them out of machines once you catch them. this is 100% different from the summoning of demons and spirits that the Bible is so against. All Pokemon clearly have physical forms, that's how you hit them and catch them. As for the Ghost-types being unaffectable by many moves, that is just intangibility, a regular superpower. There are plenty of moves that work on Ghost-types that wouldn't if they had non-physical form. there are moves called curse and hex, yet those are just names. they don't do what occultic cursing and hexes do. Plus these, along with things like dream eater or Miracle eYe, are just a few of hundreds of different moves. Disliking a game becauseo f that is just nitpicking, especially when you never even have to use thiose moves.

      You also made up that most pOKemon use fire, water, earth, and air. There are fire and water types, and that's it. THEre's no earth-type, onlygrounda nd rock type. THE closest thing to air-type there is is flying-type, which is still extremely far from it. there are barely any air-based moves. two of them, Twister and razor Wind, aren't even flying-type anyways; theyr'e dragon and Normal respectively. FIre, water, earth, and air are never grouped or emphasized together in the pokemon games. the main three types are FIre, water, and grass. If there were a secondary trio, it would be electric, ice, and psychic. God is against psychics who call on outside power that didn't come from him. real life psychics are completely differentf rom pokemon psychics. Psychic Pokemon get their abilities from biological or scientific sources, specifically the very first POkemon. alakazam is psychic due to his advanced brain, Mewtwo is psychic because it was created by science. Pokemon in general get their powers from biology or other kinds of science. You don't call chameleons occultic because they change color, or owls occulticb ecause the way their heads work, do you? The fact that pokemon are like animals, and receive abilities from scientific biology, means it contradicts magic, not supports it. tHere's actually tons of science happening in the Pokemon games. that makes it great for Christians to play.

      Pokemon evolvingis nothing like humans havinge volvedf rom monkeys, or anything of the like. THere arem onkey Pokemon; none of them become human pOkemon. They instead become stronger monkeys. This is in line with the way animals evolve in reall ife. They get stronger and receive adaptations. When Pokemon evolve, their stats increase, and they become able to learn newm oves. therei sn o "one species changing into another". this is also in line with modern day science. Now, there are legendary Pokemon in charge of controlling forces like the sky, or life, ort ime, or whatever. THE most notable of these is Arceus, who created the entire Pokemon universe. THis does not mean the games are trying to offera na lternative to what god actuallyd id. No pokemon are ever passed off as gods. thef act that you can defeat Arceus, stick him in a ball, and give him orders disproves this theory. tHe things legendary pokemon do are most comparable to Greek or roman mythology. The gods in that mythology can't be tampered with by humans, only vise versa. Since you can capture every legendary pokemon, that means the games are only disproving false mythology. Once again, great for Christians to play. The power of legendary Pokemon isn't evenconsistent . in each newga me, the legendaries are always displayed as inferior to a brand new legendary.

      So there goes all of the main arguments aboutw hy pokemon is occultic, or anti-Christian at all. None of the other arguments are any better, they're muchwor se. If youw a nt to bash video game series,yo u need tof ocuso n series like Grand Theft Auto, Final Fantasy, or Bayonetta. In GTA, you can perform criminal ungodly actions, like theft, and listen to plenty of cussing. In FF, there are demons. You can take the role of a mage and use tons of magical spells. In Bayonetta, you play a pair of witches with demonic weaponry. You summon demons, and hunt down angels. ARE you seriously trying toco mpare an E10+ Nintendo series to those?

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      titanslayer 2 years ago

      What's the definition of a ghost

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      Prevail1 2 years ago

      Cause that's why people call it a ghost. Characteristics is what gives it the actual definition.

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      titanslayer 2 years ago

      I don't see why the ghosts in the story have to have the characteristics of "real" ghosts.

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      Prevail1 2 years ago

      The reason why you have to provide real life is to show that what people write in stories are actually the same of what's actually going on in real life. If it all follows up the exact characteristics that it's that actual thing. If it adds or subtract exactly one of those characteristics then it's not counted. And if you actually think what you're saying is true, then why don't ask the creator yourself and Satv2000. Plus you already went up against your points about ghost.

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      titanslayer 2 years ago

      1. That's the point an author can make a universe with it's own rules, pokémon may or may not have a universe where ghosts can be hurt and have kids.

      2. Why do I have to show real life evidence.

      3. There are a number of animated casper movies, not just the live action one, I'm pretty sure there's a baby in it. And if there isn't then my point still stands that there could be a story where a ghost has a baby.

      4. That's beside the point, I could write a story where a ghost lays an egg. The pokémon creators did the same thing.

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      shannon 3 years ago

      Shannon well I'm 10 and I was toolked that poky Mon was for kids and now I like it and I don't know how to not like it cause I loved it so much that I have 10097345 poky Mon cards I mean 147 poky Mon cards and I was a big fan when I was 4 years old so yha

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      I forgot to add a "not" between "and" and "something".

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      Ok number 1, Casper and Pokemon are completely different stories from different universe wrote by different authors and from different nations. Number 2, when I mean provide evidence I mean to show real life evidence that a police would take and something from a completely different TV show. Number 3, I saw the Casper movies once and they never had a baby ghost. Number 4, it still doesn't explain how Pokemon can hatch an egg, did that so-called baby ghost hatch from an egg. If not, then it won't back it up.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      I believe that one of the ghost in one of the casper movies has a baby. If ghosts can reproduce in some stories then it isn't that far fetched to say that ghosts could lay eggs in another story.

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      You forgot to give evidence on how those ghost types that you refer to as actual ghost are able to lay eggs. You haven't countered that yet, and if that isn't proven right, then your points from earlier on how they're actual ghost are useless. And still have more in my pocket to show you that both could counter your points and show that they're not real ghost.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      In Danny Phantom there's a lot of jokes were someone accidentally hits a ghost or something. In pacman the games lore says that those are ghosts. And even though pacman isn't human he is alive, you said that ghosts can't be hurt by living things. Channeling is clearly occultic and there is channeling in the game, and you as a player are a channeler if the ghosts turn out to be real ghosts. I have already given evidence that ghost types are actual ghosts therefore the game is tied to the occultic practice of channeling.

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      Sorry if there's a confusion. What I meant to say on my first sentence was "I said fighting off as in get rid off, not controlling".

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      I never said fighting off as in get rid off, not controlling. Also I have seen Danny Phantom before and played Pacman before. For Danny Phantom most of the time I only see the ghost being hurt by other ghost and some advanced technology that we don't even have. And for Pacman, I don't how you can tell that's a ghost, looks like big blob me, not to mention the character being played isn't even human, it's just some circle with a mouth. Also if you really pokemon is tied to occultic belief why don't you asked the Creator of the franchise and Satv2000.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      I just gave you a list of shows and movies where they are injured. I don't have a problem with ghosts in media, but I don't like the idea that you are controlling the spirits of the dead. Channeling is occultic so this directly ties pokemon to occultic beliefs and practices that I don't think kids should be exposed to.

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      Prevail3 3 years ago

      From what shows or books are they injured like that? And also why do you think that something is bad just because it has ghost in it? Do you think all ghost are bad? And what if that story is about fighting ghost, shouldn't that be a good thing according to you?

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      Punched, kicked, burned, quite a few different ways. In some lore ghosts can't be hurt, but in others they can. Unless pokemon specifically says that they can't be hurt then it's reasonable to assume that they can be hurt in the pokemon universe.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      Yes

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      Another question. By the Pokemon being to scare to move, do you mean by the purple shadow that was encountered?

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      I'm not lying I actually didn't have it and I saw them. It was in Firered. Also I was asking in what method were the ghost hurt?

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      You have to be lying. You can't even find any of the pokemon in pokemon tower unless you have the silph scope. Your pokemon will be "too scared to move" if you try to find pokemon that show up in random encounters, and the pokemon will just appear to be a spirit not the type of pokemon that they actually are.

      You should be able to look that kind of thing up on your own. It's not like there isn't a million stories with ghosts in them. But I'll give you a few examples. The most obvious one is Danny Phantom. The ghosts in the show are hurt by normal humans quite often.

      Ghosts in most video games can be hurt by the player who (most of the time) is a normal human. There's tons of examples of this, pacman, alan wake, F.E.A.R.... the list goes on.

      Freddy Krueger is hurt by characters in the nightmare on elms street series multiple times.

      In some of the Casper spin offs the ghosts are hit by normal humans.

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      That was only for Marowak. You don't use it to see the ghost type Pokemon. I played through the first generation game and I was able to see it and that time I didn't have the silph scope yet. And before I give out my claim on how ghost can't lay eggs or be hurt by living things why don't you tell me how the ghost in those stories were hurt. In what ethos were they hurt I mean? Were they kicked? Were they stun by sunlight? What exactly hurt the ghost in those stories?

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      But in the first generation you did need a silph scope. That proves that they really are ghosts. Is there any basis for your claim that ghost can't be hurt by living things or can't lay eggs? There are a number of books and movies in which ghosts can be hurt and there have been several in which they can have kids. Unless pokemon itself has lore that says ghosts can't lay eggs or be hurt by living things than it's entirely possible for ghosts to do either of these things in the pokemon universe.

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      No, you don't need it. In future Pokemon games after generation 1, you don't get the silph scope and you can still you them. A ghost can't lay eggs because it's already dead, whatever it produces (and I'm sure it produces nothing) can only stay in the afterlife, it can't be transported into the living world and be able to touch by living things. And another thing I forgot to mention is that ghost can not be hurt by things that are living either.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      Why can't a ghost hatch from an egg?

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      Actually you did need the silph scope to see them, and it worked on a real ghost (the Marowak) this implies that ghost types are real ghosts

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      prevail1 3 years ago

      Also Pokemon hatches from eggs and so do those ghost type Pokemon. A real ghost can't hatch from an egg you know.

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      prevail1 3 years ago

      But you didn't need that whatever scope to see those ghost type Pokemon. Plus you haven't answered my other question yet?

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      Right, but Marowak was a real ghost. And since the syth scope worked on it, and you need it to see the other ghosts, that seems to suggest that the other ghost types really are ghosts.

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      Then why do you think it's a good idea for your kids to watch Star Wars. Also Marowak isn't even a ghost type, it's a ground type. So still ghost type Pokemon are still not ghost.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      How do you know a ghost wouldn't want to battle?

      "The ghost of the mother Marowak haunted the tower until Red/Leaf was able to knock it out, setting her spirit free."

      http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemon_Tow...

      "Another stronger ghost is revealed to be a mother Marowak, which haunts the tower as a result of her death at the hands of Team Rocket."

      "The identity of the ghosts can be revealed with a key item called the Silph Scope; without the device, battling the ghosts is impossible. "

      http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ghost_(lite...

      According to this ghost type pokemon really are ghosts.

      "In The Tower of Terror, a Haunter takes Ash's and Pikachu's souls out of their bodies after they have been struck by a chandelier." They seem to be able to eat souls directly

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      A ghost wouldn't waste time Pokemon battling. They would rather eat souls directly. Also if it was a ghost it wouldn't need Pokemon to battle for it.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      Oh I know what Halloween is. For some reason I thought you were talking about a pokemon or something because you spelled it funny, my bad man. Do you have any proof that they are pretending?

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      Really well just to let you know it's a holiday, well not really just a celebration, that our religion created. It's where kids dress up to pretend to be characters they're not and go trick -or-treating. So basically that priestess from Pokemon is doing the same thing, she's not really possessed by ghost she's just acting it out to scare people away.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      I don't think so

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      Have you ever heard of Hallowern before?

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      "A Channeler (Japanese: きとうし Shaman) is a type of Pokémon Trainer that have only appeared in the Generation I games and their remakes. They are generally depicted as Shinto priestesses. They scared people away from Pokémon Tower and were possibly unwittingly helping Team Rocket make their base in the tower. Their strange behavior when challenging the player and their subsequent reaction after being defeated seems to imply that they were possessed by the ghosts they used while battling. In fact, some Channelers apologize after battle, saying "I was possessed!" when spoken to."

      http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Channeler_(...

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      @titanslayer then why did you say "they"? You're like saying everyone of them are based of demons. Also Ghastly is not really a ghost, it just acts like one. If it really was one, then you can't touch or see it. It's actually base of poisonous polluted gas. And hypno is based off of a tapir, a type of mammal.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      Pokemon like ghastly and hypno seem to be based on demons

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      Prevail1 3 years ago

      @ titalslayer that doesn't mean they're based of demons. In fact none of them are.

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      @prevail1: Many of them are based on animals but there a some that are aren't

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      prevail1 3 years ago

      @titanslayer: They're not based on demons. They're based on animals

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      titanslayer 3 years ago

      @prevail1: Sure they're just pixels (or sprites, or whatever) but they are based on demons

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      prevail1 3 years ago

      @concernedmum: Entities? From a manmade computer program?! Ridiculous

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      prevail1 3 years ago

      @concernedmum: Entities?! From a computer program?! Ridiculous.

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      concernedmum 3 years ago

      I definately believe Pokemon is ocultic. My boys were really into them for a while, until my son started

      seeing one of the pokemon entities appearing around our home. When I looked into this I was shocked by what this pokemon stood for - definitely ocultic. We were also experiencing a lot of strife in our marriage and my son had an unfounded extreme fear all the time. As a family we decided to have a card burning ceremony and get rid of them out of our lives. Things have changed drastically (for the good) since. We would like to warn all other families against the dangers of letting Pokemon into their homes.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @anonymous: It's all eastern mythology. LIKE A BOSS.

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      titanslayer 4 years ago

      @anonymous: It's hard to explain in English. But basically several eastern religions believe that everything has a life force which they can learn to manipulate through enlightenment. The enlightenment is obtained through practice of their religion. They think that by meditating on their religious views and the implications of those views they can understand the universe and themselves enough to use ki/chi/qi to do miraculous things.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I am curious. This is off-topic w/ Pokemon, but what exactly is ki/chi/qi? From what I've looked up, it's apparently life force (or a false view of life force).

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: That may have been where he got the ideas from but the pokemon use ki, are psychic, and curse each other. I think they have occultic references and are based on cults sometimes as much as they are based on animals.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I'll give you that one, I guess its kinda like those guys that pickpocket you then give it back.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Yes but that stuff is natural. Even if there is a explanation for it psychics and other such things are probably occultic, I am open minded about it though if you can convince me it isn't.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Is that cannon?

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      You are correct in that demons can have physical forms and have babies if the author of those stories makes it so. That much I do agree with. My main point is Pokemon are supposed to be animals; that's what they are supposed to be. Satoshi Tajiri got the idea from collecting bugs and tadpoles as a kid close to his home. Are they realistic animals? Absolutely not.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Hey, I was looking up the moves thief and trick on Bulbapedia. They say that in matches with other Pokemon trainers, the stolen items are returned to the trainers' Pokemon after the match. What I am saying is, if Pokemon A uses trick/thief on Pokemon B successfully, Pokemon A returns Pokemon B's item to Pokemon B right after the match.

      Also, IF you try to steal another trainer's Pokemon, you are ALWAYS told "Don't be a thief!"

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I see where you are going with the "demons can do things humans cannot do" argument. You are correct. However, here's a few things: fish can breathe underwater, birds can fly, chameleons can change their skin color; obviously, humans can not do these things. Does that make the creatures occultic or supernatural? No, it does not. But what is natural to the animals I mentioned is not natural for people.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Here is what Wilson is trying to say: Pokemon like Dusknoir and Absol have been accused of bringing disasters or attracting demons. As time went on, people in the series learned that these Pokemon were warning to stay away from demons and warning people about natural disasters. The Pokedex entries just state the beliefs that people once had about them. Obviously, if Christians warned others to stay away from the occult, it would be different than portraying it as attractive. Same concept with Dusknoir.

      In real life, people have had supersticious beliefs about animals. One is that muslims think dogs are "unclean", yet they are natural creatures created in the Garden of Eden.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Why would you put something bad in the game in the first place? Even if the kids don't read it it shouldn't be written in the first place.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: So one of these things which is clearly evil based on the pokedex did a good thing? That proves my point that this game makes evil things look good. You can tell yourself they are superstitions but that probably isn't true.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: Often the pokedex enties are the scariest part of them game. O.o

      Of course that's because the little kids never read them. XD

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: As a fighter I can say that you can't just think, "I'm going to do this attack" and expect it to happen like future sight does. And sense its psychic it is clearly seeing the future.

      "The user focuses its willpower to its head and rams the foe. It may also make the target flinch." Zen headbutt clearly uses ki.

      I sand by my assertion that trick is theft. If I pick pocketed you but theft you with something I don't want any more that isn't really compensation.

      Your right, the devil doesn't look like that. But houndoom is clearly based on this representation of the devil. There is nothing good about that.

      I'm not sure if judging by appearance is a sin, if you can find a scripture that says it is I would be grateful. At any rate normally it's not a smart thing to do. But in this case I think it is obvious that it is made to look evil.

      I was wrong to say hypnosis is bad.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I gave a counter-example "slenderman" that pretty much disproved what your argument. Yes demons can't have kids and don't have physical forms, but humans can't be bit by spiders and swing around a city beating up criminals. My point is things that aren't possible can happen in a story, is peter parker a human? Of coarse he is. But he does stuff a human can't. Doesn't matter he's still a human. Same goes for pokemon.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Actually the all seeing eye is comes from egyptian mythology and buddism. And the pentagram existed before christianity. So what your point about it not being biblical? I don't think it matters if it's mentioned in the bible or not.

      Inner focus on what? What are they focusing on?

      I was mislead to about the pikaku thing and saying abracadabra was a typo. So you tell me to research this stuff and the first two things you say in this comment are wrong? Okay then.

      I'll give you the hypothesis thing.

      If you think about it demons get there power from their natural genetic makeup too. I'm not saying they have DNA but its normal for demons to be able to do what they do, and if it's normal it's natural. They are only called super natural because whats natural to them is outside our experience.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: Yet, Dusknoir saved the human girl. People have had misunderstanding and supersticious beliefs about animals (some still exist). I just tell myself that some of the things in pokedex entries are debunked superstitions.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I have taken logic and rhetoric in school, and trust me that was not a wild card or a strawman argument. Let me explain it in a bit more depth. He said demons can't reproduce or have physical bodies so pokemon can't be demons. Real demons can't , but in fiction I can write about a demon and say it can do those things. pokemon is fiction. There for that argument doesn't effect my belief. I used slenderman as an example because it is clearly a demon but it has a body, so it was a good counter-example to his statement.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: The pokedex entry for dusknoir says,"he antenna on its head captures radio waves from the world of spirits that command it to take people there." Yep that doesn't sound evil or anything...

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      The only thing occultic about Pokemon in the cartoon I remember was a demon girl trying to drag another girl into hell, but Dusknoir saved the human girl from getting physically dragged. In other words, the Pokemon did a good thing against a demon. Evil is portrayed in a negative light.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: Actually, your argument made no sense; that is, the slenderman wild card/strawman arguement.

      Sozin said that Pokemon have physical bodies that age, have weight, and reproduce babies. He said that because you think Pokemon are demons or something, when demons do not have physical bodies. Angels (whether God's or satan's) cannot reproduce and have angel or demon babies. I actually agree with Sozin's stand and it makes sense.

      Pokemon are supposed to be the flora and fauna of their world, not demons.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: In a sense, future sight is like a prediction. Because the attack never happens unless you use that move. Zen headbutt is just a glowy version of headbutt. As for trick, you are swapping items with the opponent; I can't say it's willfully done, but thik of compensation. I guess stealing a dog's bone is a big deal to you...even though no one in their right mind would even consider it, even most wicked minds wouldn't. What could be gained? Nothing.

      I noticed someone made a comment about Houndour being a good Pokemon and you said that Pokemon makes evil looking things to do good things. Uh, dude, the Bible never says what evil "looks like". The "red. furry, hooved, horned" depiction of satan is not Biblical. All it says is satan can look like an angel of light and Isaiah and Ezekiel say he was "very beautiful". Isn't judging by appearance a sin, anyway?

      Also, the "hypnosis" in the games just makes Pokemon fall asleep. Think of a person putting an ocean waves video on his computer before he goes to bed; same thing. Or at least think of sleeping gas. It's nothing like real world hypnosis where the victim is brainwashed into his "master's" bidding.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: How was my argument ridiculous? I said that Pokemon are like animals in their world. Animals have weight, height, they age, and they eventually die. Pokemon are the same way.

      Demons are immortal spirit beings. You say that Pokemon are demons, yet they are nothing like demons. As I also said before, Pokemon can have babies, like animals. satan and his demons cannot breed, nor can God's angels.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: "all seeing eye". May God help any war veteran that ever crosses your path who lost an eye defending his country. There isn't even anything Biblical about the "all seeing eye" or even the pentagram; both were originally Christian symbols, according to Wikipedia (all seeing eye of God and the five wounds of Christ). The only Biblical satanic symbol is 666 and even that's open to interpretation (sort of).

      Inner focus simply prevents it from flinching; that's just self-control (a fruit of the Holy Spirit).

      In a sense it is a deal that you said "there is a Pokemon named abracadabra". Nowhere near as bad as "Pikachu means peaceful spirit" or "Pokemon die in the fights". If a professor said "Benito Hitler was the Communist leader in Cuba in the 1920s", that would look pretty stupid wouldn't it? In other words, you need to do research before putting it out there.

      I just looked up "hypothesis" on Wikipedia; I thought we were talking about your view that Pokemon is occultic; hypothesis is a part of the SCIENTIFIC field.

      Let me restate what the occult is: consultation with the dead (necromancy), spell-casting (sorcery and witchcraft), and false directions (omen interpretation and divination); above all, it is satanic power from the spirit world. "psychic" and "ghost" pokemon get there powers from their. natural. genetic. makeup. And one last thing: Everyone I know who has been lead into the occult is not like that due to Pokemon. One such friend had an abusive mother who professed to be a Christian; this friend never cared for Pokemon. I blame people like Joel Osteen more than some fad.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: My argument showed the other guys point to be invalid didn't it? I used a ridiculous example cause his argument was equally ridiculous.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Is it really a big deal if I accidentally said abracadabra? And abra/kadabra does use the occult.

      It hypotheses itself, God says to maintain control of itself. Hypothesizing others is wrong as well.

      Its ability inner focus uses chi (or ki) which is occultic.

      Zen headbutt is clearly occultic.

      Trick while not occultic is stealing which clearly is wrong.

      Future sight is not even close to your bowler example. Future sight isn't a prediction its seeing what going to happen before it does.

      Miracle eye is based on the all seeing eye.

      I could go on and on but I won't.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: "According to series producer Satoshi Tajiri, the name is derived from a combination of two Japanese sounds: pika, a sound an electric spark makes, and chu, a sound a mouse makes." Source wikipedia.

      Sorry for my misstatement earlier.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Disney was boycotted by the christians for a reason...

      That being said the the evil queen is evil, pokemon are considered good. Is having the bad guy do bad things bad? I don't think so. Having the good guy do bad things is bad though.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: You didn't look vary hard if you didn't find anything about ki/qi/chi

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Just because you ignored the religious aspect doesn't mean they are not there. And I said obtained because most people are ignorant about ki and its easier to explain it that way, especially over the internet. Their is not scientific explanation for how ki is used and some of the things that it does.

      Your right meditation isn't occultic, the meditation I was talking about is.

      I used porn as an example because that makes a point, which you seemed to have missed. If there was hookers trainers in pokemon everyone would comdem that, I don't think there's a big difference inbetween that and channelers.

      I don't condem anyone how plays the game, I just want to make sure parents are responsible and look into the game before they let there kids play it. In the same way I don't condemn kids that play COD but I think there parents need to look into it first, and decide if they think its okay for there kids to play the game.

      Star wars does have buddhism in it, but I don't care. Other religions can exist.

      The chronicles of narnia is a christian book actually.

      Never read harry potter.

      I don't mind the lord of the rings for the same reason I don't mind star wars.

      I don't think everything is evil like you think I do. I just think parents need to be careful, I have choose to talk about pokemon in particular, but this applies to all media. I'm not afraid of media I just think we all need to use a little judgement.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Saw your "slenderman" comparison. You are comparing Pokemon to something that would make Freddy Krueger and Jason Voorhees run for the hills. That's like comparing Dora the Explorer to a Latino in a GTA game. And yeah the argument is ridiculous; the one that says "Pokemon are demons". I guess, so are flora and fauna in this world; that's what the Pokemon are supposed to be in their world.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      There is no Pokemon named "abracadabra". It's named Abra and it evolves (ahem, matures) into Kadabra. Furthermore, names do not determine if someone is evil; even so, "abracadabra" is STAGE magic, not the occultic kind. As for the psychic types, to quote Guide2games, "some of the Psychic movies include waves shot from the head, as well as the aptly named Hypnosis that will put a Pokémon to sleep. Another attack is Future Sight, in which the attacking Pokémon âforeseesâ an attack that is delivered later. Clearly all of these would stand in direct opposition to what the Bible says about psychic abilities. But it is also established that many of these Pokémon gain their powers from their biological makeup; a scientific explanation is given for the appearance of these powers". Furthermore, the "future sight" move is started by the said Pokemon. It's like a bowler rolls his bowling ball and says "I'm gonna knock down some pins" and some pins do fall. That's not divination or occultism; that's common sense and using your brain (to think). Anyone I've ever know who doesn't adhere to Christianity is NOT like that due to Pokemon, this I swear.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I meant "Are you absolutely sure that this quote is wrong".

      A âpeacefulâ spirit is called a pika-chu. The cartoonâs hero has a pet that battles Pokemons and protects him called, you guessed it, Pikachu.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: Disney has been exposing kids to the occult DECADES before Pokemon (under your logic that is). I honestly worry more about kids imitating the evil queen or wishing upon stars than playing a sport-like game. Of course, when they get that "it's just a movie" and they listen to the godly morals in the Disney stuff (Pinocchio and Aladdin should not lie, the Beast should not selfish, etc), than I am no longer concerned.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I was just looking on Bulbapedia for anything related to chi/ki/qi, as in this supposedly occultic energy. I found nothing about it. Therefore, the "Pokemon use ki" argument is borderline irrelevant and off-topic at best. If someone said "Pokemon has guns in it", that would hold more water; however, it was used by evil people and that showed me as a kid to never play with guns like they are toys. I never heard of ki/chi/qi when I did karate when I was 9-11 years old; no, my age range is not some sort of occultic subliminal message to anyone, that's how old I was when I started and when my teacher went to Afghanistan I was 11 and never did karate again. My teacher was a Christian who divorced the spiritual part of martial arts, just like there are Christians who divorce the paganism from Christmas and Easter and replace it with God and Jesus. Whether or not ki/qi/chi is natural or occultic, I cannot say, but I pray for anyone who uses it.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: TL, you are right. Pokemon has never affected my Christian worldview. The same could be said about Power Rangers or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. As a matter of fact, they taught me biblical morals before I ever picked up a Bible (revenge is not worth it, be nice to your friends, justice and mercy go hand-in-hand, etc.). It's a shame these forms of entertainment do not point to the Gospel.

      I know people who are into the occult and/or atheistic; not one of them is like that due to Pokemon or Disney or Looney Tunes. None. The things I blame for that are Twilight, Harry Potter, R-rated movies, Westboro Baptist "Church", alcohol, unmarital sex, and one of my friends has an abusive mother who professes to be a devout Christian. In other words, I blame religious hypocrites and stuff that ACTUALLY promotes and teaches occultism. I don't blame Pokemon, Looney Tunes, or Disney at all.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Yes, abracadabra is a incantation used to insure the success of a spell. This is considered occult.

      If a entertainer uses the word its just for showmanship and probably okay. But if it really does something like the pokemon in the game does then theirs a problem.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I have made plenty of claims.

      1. some pokemon have occultic origins.

      2. trainers like channelers are occultic

      3. it promotes animal violence

      4. moves like curse are occultic

      Those are the main points I have made.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Well, your teacher was obviously very into the religious aspect of Chi. I am a Sifu, and so I know a great deal about chi, having used it WITH NO RELIGIOUS ASPECT for years. Your lack of knowledge concerning it is obvious in your statement that it is 'obtained' through meditation like some sort of magic unlockable thing in a video game.

      1) Chi is not 'obtained.' It is already inside of you. Chi means 'breath' and 'life energy.' Scientists have been able to see with specific instruments that practicioners of these martial arts have the ability to manipulate their own bioelectricity for enhanced strength, and have also shown that qigong, which is the practice of regulating and moving your chi, lowers blood pressure, reduces chance of stroke, reduces chance of heart attack, reduces stress, increases reaxation, increases metabolism, lowers resting heart rate, increases heart stroke volume, increases circulation to the internal organs and to the brain, increases flexibility, strengthens muscles and tendons, increases mobility and smoothness in the movement of the joints, and causes the same release of satisfied, contented, and happy feelings that also come from a good, traditional workout.

      2) the practice of meditation, in and of itself, is not occultic. It's obvious that you need to actually examine it with an open mind instead of shouting 'occult!' the moment you look at it. The most basic idea of meditation is actually spoken of in the bible: "Be still, and know that I am God."

      Basic meditation is a calming of the mind, letting all of the chaotic mess of your own thoughts fall away to become simple, peaceful stillness and silence. In this way you may finally allow yourself to hear the words of God, since your own thoughts are no longer in the way.

      Meditation and Chi are only occultic if they are used for means of attempting to attain eternal life, or separating one's entity to become 'one with the dao' or 'one with the universal mind.' If your goal is health, or stillness, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with either.

      Quit being afraid.

      Also, your logic isn't sound. Pornography is not comparable, since it's pictures or videos of actual people committing the action. Pokemon is a collection of pixels organized to look like cartoony little people with enormous eyeballs and fun little creatures. It's just a little adventure. People seem to be under the impression that anything that you see or play or listen to completely changes your thinking process. Are you so unstable in your faith that you're terrified that a collection of pixels on a box that makes beeping noises is going to give the devil a foothold in your heart? If yes, then you can go merrily along and never touch pokemon. But just because one person is so insecure that they're afraid something this insignificant can affect them, that doesn't mean that it must be condemned as heresy, blasphemy, occultic, or whatever else you want to throw at it. If you can't let go and just look at and enjoy something for what it was intended to be - FUN - then you really don't have an imagination and I feel sorry for you (by the way, by your attitude I would also assume that you also condemn Star Wars as buddhism, Narnia as the occult, Harry Potter as witchcraft, and Lord of the Rings as spiritism? If you do, then there's really not much more to discuss).

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: yea u r absolutely right i play pokemon all my life but it hasn't affect my belief in god

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: Backed up your claims ? i don't think you can back any thing as your only stating your opinion and not facts, this is how you see Pokemon, i think Pokemon has run too long and just the same crap over and over again and same with the TV series, all i can say is judge it as it is, and not be influenced by your religion as if you do you have already lost the point.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @titanslayer: Are you absolutely sure of this?

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: ki is unnatural and obtained through the occultic practice of meditation. Trust me I know I am a martial artist.

      With your fake argument porn is fake but vary destructive, pokeomon isn't real but it exposes kids to the occult and what I consider cock fights.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Okay I was wrong about them dying, and the website that said pikachu is the name of a demon was wrong, but other pokemon have names like that, like abracadabra that is clearly occultic.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Yeah your right sorry for my mistake.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Do you think that slenderman is a demon, I think its obvious that it is even though it has a physical form. Fiction doesn't reflex reality exactly, to be based on demons doesn't need to be exactly like a demon. I think this argument is ridiculous.

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      titanslayer 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Yeah I looked that up after seeing your comment and your right.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Anyone who's ever watched the show or played the games knows Pokemon don't die. Are American football players supposed to get hospitalized or killed in the sport? Absolutely not. Same concept.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Also, the name "Pikachu" comes from pikapika, which is a sound effect for spark, or something like that. The chu comes from squeaks made by rodents, according to the Japanese language. So the "evil spirit" name origin has been completely destoyed.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I cannot believe how ridiculous this all is. I grew up playing the original games, and I'm a perfectly normal christian. The great danger of christianity is fear of everything that isn't straight out of the bible. I would not be surprised if some people here would condemn Lord of the Rings and Narnia for use of magic, even though it's 100% clear that magic in both of those stories is a portrayal of miraculous power.

      I also resent the idea that Ki/Qi/Chi in and of itself is occultic. Chi is bioelectric energy. The exercises of Tai Chi, Qigong, Yoga, and other systems are designed to regulate, realign, and augment the circulatory, bioelectrical, and nervous systems for well-being and, in the case of martial artists, enhanced physical power. Now, if you're talking about 'developing the immortal fetus' and 'becoming one with the Dao,' then you're into Daoism. But Chi is quickly gaining scientific credibility - in terms of scientifically proven fact, all of those systems are 100% accepted as being extremely beneficial for health. God stated that our body is a temple to the lord, and that we should therefore treat it as such. That means staying as healthy as possible, and these systems are some of the best ways to do that.

      In any case, Pokemon: the thing that people are failing to understand is that Pokemon, and all the other things you're afraid of, are FAKE. You are exaggerating fiction's power over its consumer. Books, video games, movies, and music must be examined through these three precepts: what is the context, what is the point, and what is the message? Pokemon is in an extremely cartoony and anime context (which by its nature means it's completely unrealistic and, generally, unbeleaveable. This is also known as FANTASY); the point of the game is to walk around, collect pokemon, and train them in strength to beat the other pokemon. Have you people even played the game? The pokemon don't even touch each other. They just stand there, and when they attack they jiggle back and forth and a logo of a scratch with some sound effects, or fire, or whatever, goes over the other pokemon. When they faint they just disappear, and they're not dead - take them to a Poke mart and they're back to 100%. They don't even get injured.

      What's the message? There isn't one, really. It's just a goofy little game. I suppose you could infer determination, perseverance, and cleverness, but not much else. It's just a fun little adventure in a little handheld box. Its popularity lies in the diversity of the creatures and the way the game allows each player to insert themselves into it - you make choices, and the character you're playing is supposed to be YOU, and not a character. It's a very simple idea.

      My point of this long tyrade: STOP BEING SO PARANOID! God commanded us to examine everything, not to be afraid of everything. We are to be above this world, but we should not cut ourselves off from it and be hermits. There are much more important things for us to worry about, namely: prostitution, homosexuality, murder, rapists, child molesters, witchcraft, terrorism, abuse, cancer, islam, and all the other religions trying to distract the world from the one true God. Is Pokemon really this big a deal in the face of those things?

      Think about it.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Pikachu is not a spirit. It's a creature that eats, sleeps, and ages like your average flora and fauna. In one episode, it nearly choked on an apple; demons and spirits can't choke on food as they have no physical form. In another episode, it was annoyed at kids pinching its cheeks; once again, demons have no physical form. In another episode, it enjoyed a massage; need I remind that demons have no physical form? In the games, you can Pikachu and Raichu to get a Pichu; demons cannot reproduce and have demon babies, the number was set in stone when they joined satan. The idea of Pikachu being an "evil" or "familiar" spirit holds no water with just these four arguments alone.

      The same can be said about all the other Pokemon. They have weight, height, they age, they eat, no different than animals. Just look on Bulbapedia and Serebii for evidence to what I am saying. I think some Pokemon can live hundreds of years. Sounds occultic, right? Sea turtles, jellyfish, and surely other some other real-life animals can live HUNDREDS of years. Just apart of the genetic makeup that God gave them.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I'm assuming that you want the Japanese translation. Pika=Sparkle Chu=squeak.