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Why Esther Hicks Never Answers Questions About Jerry's Death

Updated on November 4, 2017

Esther and Jerry Hicks When Things Were Good

Esther and Jerry Hicks:  photo taken by a fan during an Abraham-Hicks workshop tour.
Esther and Jerry Hicks: photo taken by a fan during an Abraham-Hicks workshop tour.

Where Was Esther Hicks and Abraham when Jerry Died?

On November 18, 2011, according to an email from Esther Hicks five days later, her husband Jerry Hicks died at the age of 84.

Jerry Hicks' death came just six months after he disclosed in an email that he was hospitalized and receiving chemotherapy.

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To most, it’s not surprising that an 84-year-old man might die, but those in the spiritual movement founded by Jerry and Esther Hicks have been unable to come to terms with it. The Abraham-Hicks organization can’t acknowledge that death can be painful and involuntary. That would be inconsistent with the teachings pitched at workshops and in books for twenty-five years.

It seemed likely that Jerry was the actual source of the “eternal wisdom” delivered by a hundred non-living entities that Esther Hicks channeled in the persona of Abraham.


On the Abraham-Hicks Website, Jerry Hicks Lives On

Three years after Esther Hicks announced his death, the Abraham-Hicks website still portrays Jerry Hicks as being in the best of health.

These two fun loving adventure-seekers are currently breathing in huge lungsful of joy as they figure-eight across the United States in their rock star monster bus....

Really?

You thought Jerry Hicks died, didn't you? You are wrong.

Don't be at all surprised if—as you pass—you get an enthusiastic smile and a wave from two kids wearing goofy red clown noses.

It's just Jerry & Esther Hicks, on their way to more fun and adventure!

It's right there on the website. "Today, the spring in Jerry's step rivals men half his age."

Esther, Jerry and Abraham wouldn't put out false information like that, would they?

And it isn't just the website. Esther continues to sign off her email blasts with a combination of hers, Jerry's and Abraham's names.

Abraham’s Teachings

For those who haven’t been following this saga, the website calls Abraham "a group consciousness from the non-physical dimension." Abraham is the source of “the wisdom that is pouring forth through Esther.” The Hicks prefer not to use the word “channeling,” although in reality it's nothing but.

Abraham’s wisdom, summarized on the website, includes twelve points that insist, in clumsy prose and music reputation, that you can control all of what happens to you. Point five, for example, is “Anything that you can imagine is yours to do or be or have.”

The last two points relate to death and illness:

11. You May Appropriately Depart Your Body Without Illness or Pain.

12. You Can Not Die; You Are Everlasting Life.

So, they claim - Abraham claims, Esther claims, Jerry used to claim - that you can have it all, including eternal life, and you can depart your body without illness or pain.

This may explain why, three years after his death, the website Esther Hicks manages has not been able to acknowledge Jerry Hicks' death.

So who, or where, is Abraham now? Or Jerry?

Officially, What is Abraham?

First, the official story is that Abraham is a group of "nonphysical teachers" who have come together as a group to help us understand the universe and its most powerful force, the Law of Attraction.

They jokingly refer to themselves as dead people and claim to have access to all of the wisdom of the universe. They also claim that they can read your mind and understand your problems before you speak to them.

Esther and Jerry Hicks claimed that Abraham, this group of teachers, chose Esther above all others as the perfect outlet for their teachings because she was more openminded and vulnerable than anyone else and, luckily, married to Jerry, "the questioner of all time."

That's the short version, but you can find a more detailed one on my other articles or just by visiting the Abraham-Hicks website and stepping through the marketing mud long enough to find the free downloads of their story, as told by them.

How Jerry and Esther Hicks Created Abraham

Esther and Jerry Hicks were a dynamic pair for decades.

After Sheila Gillette wrote about the wisdom of a group of archangels named THEO (see The Soul Truth: A Guide to Inner Peace) and Jane Roberts wrote about the wisdom of a nonphysical entity called Seth (Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul), Esther and Jerry, incorporating Jerry's experience as a motivational speaker at Amway, invented Abraham.

The Hicks enjoyed immense success as a resource for spiritual inspiration, following the publicity surrounding the book and movie The Secret.

Riding a “Law of Attraction” wave, they saturated the market with books, card decks, recordings and DVDs. They posted numerous YouTube videos to whet appetites for sales on their marketing-heavy website.

True believers and committed followers will hang onto their beliefs about Jerry, Esther and Abraham, just as advocates of Jane Roberts' Seth material did as she was dying, also of cancer, as long as they can retain a flicker of hope that their magical beliefs might be true.

But now that it is widely known that Jerry Hicks lost his battle with cancer, it's a good time to take a retrospective look at Abraham-Hicks and consider whether the performances can continue.

Jerry’s colorful lifetime has included at least five marriages (he is on record saying that there were too many to count, but at least five) and a successful career at the upper levels in the often investigated and successfully sued Amway Corporation, which was the source of his wealth before he launched the Abraham-Hicks operation.

Jerry Hicks' studies in the areas that later coalesced into the Law of Attraction began long before he met Esther.

He was an avid practitioner of Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich and similar feel-good philosophies. In all likelihood, he used this knowledge in pitching Amway dealerships and motivating his recruits. In later years he never mentioned his Amway experience.

His relationship with Esther began while both were married to other people, but they hit it off immediately.

In the biographical material on the website, without much detail, we glimpse them studying Jane Roberts' Seth books, reading together while Jerry tickles Esther's feet.

Then, for no disclosed reason, they are visiting Sheila Gillette for a reading with the entity she channels (THEO, twelve Archangels who rank higher than Abraham, according to them).

For some other inexplicable reason, Esther and Jerry say that, shortly after this visit, they are confronted by a stranger who informs them that Jane Roberts has died.

Although this branch of the story never develops, it's likely that they were considering setting Esther up as Seth's next channel. Seth, though, is dense and hard to understand.

Esther and Jerry Hicks wisely designed a dumbed-down version, Abraham, that was more accessible, but they borrowed from Sheila Gillette's public channeling act featuring THEO, including, at first, an accent for Abraham’s announcements.

Borrowed Wisdom, Learned Performance

Abraham-Hicks never actually produced a new idea, other than marketing initiatives.

"The Law of Attraction" had been used for years before Esther and Jerry Hicks laid claim to that phrase. When their claim was exposed as false, they took up the clunkier term "Vortex of Attraction," which would have failed as a marketing gimmick, if it was what they started with.

For many years, it seemed likely that Abraham-Hicks was always none other than good old Jerry Hicks. Acting out the part, Esther got into her Abraham persona and parroted what she learned from a well-educated master in the teachings made famous by Napoleon Hill.

The impressive amalgamation of sources that resulted in the books (purported to be written by Abraham), the crowd-pleasing stage performances, and the recordings served many people well.

Recently, however, with Jerry’s increasing age and deteriorating health, the message became more muddled. The organization attracted a more cult-like following, and increasingly turned to exclusion as a way of controlling followers.

Abraham's—Esther's—Teachings About Death and Illness

The organization has never been particularly forgiving of illness or death.

You don't die just because you get old, but because you can't control your thoughts. In February of 1998, Esther Hicks, posing as Abraham, said this:

You can live comfortably and joyfully and resiliently and healthfully as long as you have desire that summons life through you. People don't die because they pass through time. They die because they don't allow this arena to stimulate decisions.

For years, Esther Hicks (as Abraham) claimed that her teachings could cure any disease in less than an afternoon. Here is a quote where she gave herself a little more leeway:

But it does take the determination that you're going to put your thoughts upon something that does feel good. And so, here we're going to make a very bold statement: any disease could be healed in a matter of days, any disease, if distraction from it could occur and a different vibration dominate - and the healing time is about how much mix-up there is in all of that. (Workshop #230, Ashland, Oregon, July 20th, 2002)

Esther (Abraham) said that disease will go away given the right attitude.

The very best approach to medicine is, "Well, I see your physical body is sick, what's been bothering you? What are you worried about? What are you angry about? What are you frustrated about?" Because that is what is at the root of all of this. And then say, "Let it go, let it go, let it go." That's the message, and if they could hear you and do that, then they would all be well right away. (Workshop 106, Ashland, Oregon, May 16, 2000)

She (he) said sickness before death is optional, caused by the sufferer himself or herself.

Death is an inevitable cycle. But sickness before death is a symptom of resistance. Most people think they've got to get sick to die. But, you could be like the cat who chooses to get run over. Or, you could just lie down in your bed happily one night, so content and thoughtless, wanting nothing in this physical world; and just reemerge into Pure Positive Energy... You can play it out any way you choose. (Workshop, Sedona, Arizona, August 27th, 2005)

And death should be easy, even “delightful”! Most insensitively, Esther said this just two weeks after the World Trade Center disaster of September 11, 2001, while the American public was quite aware of the suffering of thousands of blameless victims: pregnant women crushed by collapsing towers, workers jumping to avoid being burned alive, mothers on jetliners with babies in their laps.

[D]eath is a matter of closing one's eyes in this dimension and literally opening one's eyes in the other dimension. And that, truly, is how all death is, no matter how it looks, up to that point.. The re-emergence into Source Energy is always a delightful thing. (Workshop, Buffalo, New York, September 25, 2001)

In short, illness comes from thoughts, it can be quickly cured by thoughts, death isn't necessary, and if it should happen, it's delightful. An organization that promotes such beliefs could be seriously embarrassed if its leaders experienced illness and death.

Despite the Teachings, Jerry Became Ill

A year and a half before his death in November 2011, and a year before his May 2011 public announcement that he was undergoing chemotherapy, Jerry Hicks was already losing weight. A friend with medical knowledge and connections inside the organization wondered if he might have been undergoing chemo already by this time.

When he said on May 25, 2011 that he had suddenly fallen ill, he indirectly indicated that it had been going on for some time; he said his chemotherapy had started already and he had already lost 15 pounds from his slight frame.

So, it wasn't really so sudden. Fifteen pounds don't melt off overnight.

Jerry Hicks Resorted to "Heavy Chemotherapy"

On May 25, 2011, Jerry Hicks shocked his followers by stating publicly that he was receiving chemotherapy—a treatment associated with cancer.

Although he blamed his illness on a spider bite or a red ant bite, admissions of an "extremely exaggerated" white blood cell count, a biopsy, "heavy chemotherapy" and a week's intense hospital treatments told the story without using the "C" word.

Jerry's Note:

"This is Jerry. First I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your messages both telepathically and emaily of encouragement and good cheer. Next, Abraham and I have discussed the chain of thought that brought this about and I'm satisfied that I'm not going to do that again. Next, here's the scenario as I now see it. On March 12, 2011 we flew from Del Mar to Boca Raton, Fl where we slept next to the dock with many yachts from many different parts of the world in the slip right outside our window. When I awakened the next morning I had a large welt on the inside of my wrist that looked like a giant fire ant bite. The most unusual thing about it was instead of the usual circular puss-like head that comes up from many insect bites it was a strangely cube-like head. It looked more like a spider bite. I put a Band-Aid on it and we continued the Panamanian cruise. It seemed to resolve into itself as time went along forming a pea-shaped nodule on my wrist. On April 18, I showed it to a dermatologist in Del Mar and she immediately decided to scrape it off and sent it in for a biopsy. We continued our seminar tour and returned to San Antonio getting ready for our spring East Coast run when we heard back from the biopsy results that there was something amiss relative to my white blood cell count and she put us in touch with a dermatologist in San Antonio who was an old school friend of hers. The subsequent blood test in San Antonio showed that my white blood cell count was extremely exaggerated and the physician insisted that I undergo immediate treatment with no delay. He pointed out a number of options, one of them was to use the "big guns" (heavy chemotherapy) and so we decided to go along with that and checked into the hospital on May 6th.

We were swept up in such an obvious current of amazing "path of least resistance" events unlike anything we've ever experienced before. The strong feeling that we were proceeding in exactly the right direction continued as my response to these "big guns" was a week of no discomfort and none of the highly forewarned side effects. Everyone around us at the hospital kept speaking their surprise at my unusually comfortable experience. We are now in day 18 of a 28 day regimen of bringing my blood counts back into perfect balance.

Until I gain back 15 pounds of energetic flesh and return to my normal zippy do dah self, Esther will continue the workshops held on Saturdays (we cancelled the mid-week events so Esther and I can play together in San Antonio) and she plans to see many of you this weekend in Stamford, CT. Since this is our 3rd Live Global Broadcast I'll be enjoying the event like so many of you around the world (last time you watched from 76 countries and all 50 states) from the blissful comfort of home on my computer. If you'll be joining me in the cyber audience of the Abraham LIVE broadcast and you haven't registered yet, you can click here.

Love ya,

Jerry (and Esther, too)

P.S. One of the most wonderful things that I've experienced was the following revelation that I had while in the hospital with all of those wonderful people taking care of us: Every person with whom we seemingly have a chance encounter while here upon this planet has the potential of exerting a purely angelic influence upon us if we will but allow it."

The language is clumsy and evasive, repeating "next . . . next" at the start, as if an alibi is being plotted out step by step. The unfortunate Jerry makes passing reference to "a chain of thought having brought this about," presumably "this" being cancer, as this organization has long professed that illness is brought about by thought.

The message concludes with the inevitable sales pitch. Even chemotherapy can't stand in the way.

In spring 2011, coincident with Jerry’s declining health, the Abraham-Hicks organization introduced something called Abraham LIVE, actually remote events like webinars: a convenient innovation if, for example, the flow of revenue-producing events needed to continue while Jerry was having difficulty traveling.

A cheery anonymous writer sent this to the Abraham-Hicks Daily Quotes subscriber list, assuring all that Jerry's physical presence wasn't needed:

Jerry watched the live broadcast in San Antonio this past weekend and was delighted to discover that the feeling of the seminar was very much like being right there in the room. Abraham has been telling us for years that this energy transcends time and space and boy oh boy, do we understand that firsthand now!

. . . and boy oh boy, did they ever add a link to let you sign up for the next one, rocket fast.

People may have been able to believe for a while that a spider bite required chemotherapy, but that improbable storyline was not reinforced. Neither spider bites, leukemia, nor any other particular illness was mentioned by the organization until Jerry’s death in November 2011. Oblique references were made to Jerry’s convalescence, always along with a pitch for the next workshop.

Jerry’s Image Out of Focus, Fogged with Shadow

This photograph accompanied a marketing pitch for an upcoming workshop. Esther and Jerry Hicks together, hoping the image will let followers forget Jerry Hicks’s cancer and keep buying tickets.

Either this is the worst publicity photo ever, or they purposely used a picture in which bright sun would obscure Jerry Hicks' features.

As we found out later, Jerry was dragged out for this photo op only weeks before his death. It appears that he went during this period to South Korea for a series of alternative therapies that failed.

A Late Photo Op: Up, Up, and Away!

The PR people finally took over the Abraham Hicks news release email blasts, smoothing out the presentation. No more discussion of illness; Esther and Jerry had made a mess of it, and the organization was trying to get feel-good messages out.

This photo from a news release (with the inevitable pivot to a sales pitch) is supposed to have a "We're all happy" feel, with all the younger family members gathered with Esther and Jerry Hicks in Del Mar to enjoy a balloon ride.

Look at Jerry Hicks, hunkered down in the back corner, hard to see in detail, like the family homunculus, reaching over the rail to wave, some sort of covering on the right side of his head.

Why wasn't he standing with Esther? Was he sitting? Had he become legless? Was he out of the basket? Was he photoshopped in at the end to enhance the marketing impression?

Reality Intrudes: Announcing the Death of Jerry Hicks

On November 23, 2011, in a surprisingly direct email, Esther Hicks announced to followers that Jerry Hicks had died five days earlier, on November 18: “Our sweet Jerry made his transition into Nonphysical last Friday.” The announcement did not include an obituary, though it included a great deal about Esther’s own thoughts and plans. Nor did it include answers to the many questions that were asked about Jerry’s illness and whether it was dealt with in a way consistent with the teachings of Abraham.

One question followers had was why Jerry would have chosen conventional medicine, rather than the approach Esther has advocated (through Abraham) for years. Their cheerful rationale at the time was that they were following "the path of least resistance," which jelled with some of their early teachings. But chemotherapy is harsh and physically demanding; how could that be easier than the two hours in "suspension," or the at worst "a few days" that Abraham, by way of Esther, said would easily be enough to get rid of illness?

The question is, why didn't Jerry just take a quick Abrahamic cure instead of running to conventional medicine and, finally, alternative therapies that may have led them all the way to South Korea at the end?

According to Esther, all he would have needed to do was change his vibration. Esther also said Jerry was the best person in the world at keeping his vibration in control.

But he died, anyway. And what does "vibration" mean in the first place, and if you can't define it (just try), how can you change it?

The couple’s turn to conventional medicine strongly suggested not only that some of the basic teachings of Abraham about health and death were dangerous nonsense, but that the couple knew they were nonsense. When it came to real danger, Esther and Jerry Hicks tossed aside the Teachings of Abraham and chose conventional medicine, just as any sensible person would.

Given the Hicks’ views on medicine—that illness comes because you wish it on yourself—and the centrality of these views to the teachings they espoused, the couple must have been very reluctant to begin conventional therapy. Maybe they tried the easy cures described in the teachings of Abraham, and found them useless.

Nevertheless, if they could have been brave enough to explain clearly what was going on, it would have been a great help to their followers, many of whom trust the Abraham-Hicks teachings to get themselves through illness and other rough spots in life.

Why were they so evasive and, in some instances, simply dishonest about what was going on? If they were going to make a public issue of his illness, as they did in several email blasts, why be so sparing with the truth and allow themselves to seem disingenuous? What was Esther's excuse for turning every update into a sales spin for products and workshops? And then cancelling the workshops without notice or explanation?

When it was clear to everyone who looked at the situation objectively that Jerry was dying, why did they jam him into a gondola full of grinning younger relatives in a desperate PR effort?

This evasion was insensitive and unfair to other cancer sufferers, and to the many followers who had routinely been told by Esther and Jerry Hicks' creation, Abraham, that they give themselves cancer.

Esther Hicks's many rude and callous comments about "croaking" and how good it is when "the old ones go" come to mind.

Jerry Intermittently Reappeared, Speaking Through Esther

In a workshop in early December 2011, Esther did what some had predicted would happen; she attributed some of her spoken wisdom to Jerry, or as people might say, she “channeled” him. After a joke she made, she said, “That was Jerry.” As she did after an audience member observed that a digital clock had stuck at 5:55, one of the numbers that Jerry had said were messages from the spirit world (see the last couple minutes of the video below).

While this channeling offered some sort of resolution concerning whether or where Jerry had gone, it tended to confuse the whole concept of Abraham, which had always been a creation blended from many alleged no-longer-physical beings, without any distinct individual voice. It got complicated. Where the organization’s email for ticket sales were formerly signed off, “Love, Esther and Jerry,” the closing now read, “Our Love, Esther, Abraham/Jerry and our Abraham-Hicks traveling team.”

After introducing the newly non-physical Jerry Hicks in that workshop as a wisecracking associate of "Abraham," Esther reacted to the hail of criticism by leaving him out of the next workshop.

Esther Hicks in Her Own Words on Jerry's Death

Abraham Without Jerry: Less Kindness, More Bad Advice

As Jerry became sicker, Abraham changed; he often said mean things to the most vulnerable seekers who'd paid large ticket prices to see Esther perform her Abraham routine.

Since Jerry’s death, Abraham’s personality has continued to evolve away from empathy and gentleness. Judging from recent workshops, coldness, pettiness, and stupidity are an essential part of his makeup. In an early 2012 workshop, Abraham focused his wisdom on a parking lot collision between a Mustang and Esther’s Cadillac Escalade, discussing insights about driving provided by Esther’s hairdresser.

At another recent workshop, asked by a mother in the hot seat about dealing with her young child who refused to share toys, the wise, all-knowing Esther (as Abraham) told her that her child was in "alignment," enjoying his toys "like Jesus not freaking out about the toylessness of his friends."

Which coldhearted Jesus was that?

Farther along in the conversation, Esther responded to the same mother's worries about her son's habit of kicking their cat. She instructed the mother not to interfere with the abuse of a helpless, trapped animal because the cat was "teaching" her son.

Maybe to become the next Ted Bundy.

One of the failings of Esther and Jerry Hicks’s imaginary Abraham is that "they" don't understand that acts of all kinds require moral judgment (stopping animal abuse, as opposed to standing by and watching passively).

Noninterference is a kind of cheating that masks selfishness. Esther and Jerry have suggested that honoring our crudest impulses is natural, even though years of evolution have trained us to act proactively in the best interests of all.

This is the sickness of narcissism in full bloom. And animal abuse, for those who don't know, has long been recognized as an early warning signal for violent crime in adults.

In any case, anyone who saw this workshop, live or on video, has a moral obligation to contact the ASPCA. Now.

Get that cat out of the house before the kid, guided by Abraham Hicks, seriously injures or kills it.

Even at an organization that specializes in weirdness, this piece of "wisdom" stood out.

Esther Hicks Now Speaks for God, Jesus, Buddha, and Seth

As she wrapped up the San Diego workshop in January 2012, Esther included an ominous statement:

We would like to speak on behalf of Seth and God and Jesus and Buddha and all that have come before, and take it one step further into clarity and say that all of us from non-physical are having this moment.

She'd wandered close to cultism before, but this was the first time in the history of her channeling that she claimed to speak for "God and Jesus and Buddha."

She'd once claimed to be their equal, but this seemed to be a nod toward a whole new direction.

Or, knowing Esther was never the sharpest tool in the Abraham Hicks shed, maybe it was just a stupid bit of narcissistic rambling.

Abraham-Hicks Survived Jerry Hicks

Esther's efforts to resurrect Jerry shortly after his death by claiming to channel him along with Abraham at her workshops didn't help her credibility. Nor did her claims to represent various gods from other cultures, or Abraham’s rambling, petty, mean-spirited advice. But the workshops continue—30 or so a year—the videos continue to be made, and presumably the money rolls in.

The death of Abraham-Hicks is inevitable, because the death-defying collection of entities Jerry and Esther made up was always a fiction. To my surprise, Abraham-Hicks survived Jerry’s death. Possibly there are even hangers-on or support staff in the organization now who could carry on the show after Esther becomes non-physical.

Jerry's role in the organization, colossal as it was, seems to have been filled for the time being. But Jerry himself, in spite of his hopes, does seem—at least to those of us with any reasonable amount of skepticism—to have passed on.

Yes, It's a Duck

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. | Source

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© 2011 David Stone

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      David Stone 2 months ago from New York City

      The world's full of mysteries and undiscovered wonders. The marketed version of the "Law of Attraction" takes common wisdom and tries to make money out of repackaging it as esoteric.

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      Stella 2 months ago

      Thanks for this extensive and well documented post. I stumbled on it as the question suddenly hit me and I went on to find some answers: If Esther was gifted for channeling it is obvious she would have got into contact with Jerry after his death. The logical message he would have sent would have been: Hi to all. I have now met Abraham and I can tell you that he is a Wise and elevated spirit and that his teachings are true, this was not just some wicked spirit playing with us. Or Something similar. But from what you write they must have missed that one. So am I a smarter marketer than them?

      Another thing: Napoleon Hill is reported to have died ill and broke (huh, huh think rich. I personnaly knew of someone who applied his theaching: burn your bridges, which he did and lost big money). Now Jerry died of cancer. Wayne Dyer battled cancer...all bad publicity for the LOA.

      What I am constantly searching for is to find out if the LOA is real or not. If I can believe it or not ( I did have some positive experience with it though). I still belive in the writings of Wallace Wattles and Florence Scovell-Shinn. I have 2 books of the Hicks and they sounded positive and good but all the marketing around made them suspicious + I know that spirits talking to people are usually low level spirits who preted to be what they are not. The higher ones don't bother with the world anymore. Louise Hay who is the Publisher of all this also looses credibility by the same occasion. And don't really quote Dyer because I have several pages of notes I made demonstrating that what he says in The Power of Intention is just bullshit and a pot-pourri of other books of wisdom.

      So it seems that one will have to find by himself if the LOA is legitimate and trully works.

      Thanks to all the people who by pursuing the quest for the Truth will make advance our knowledge about this subject.

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      David Stone 3 months ago from New York City

      You bet. Writers like to get paid for their work too.

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      Chereese 3 months ago

      You ended your post with a sales pitch...

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      David Stone 7 months ago from New York City

      Show me where she explains why he did not follow Abraham's specific advice and be cured. And please don't take the tactic that we can't know what as in his heart. We know. He was completely open about it and only went silent when it became clear that treatments weren't working. Then, he shut up. Show me how his fight to survive squares up with her oft-repeated claim that "Every death is a suicide" and that "It's always good to see the old ones go." You can produce and edited video that shows what you want it to show. That's theatre. Since I was there, watching closely, from before Jerry admitted being sick and until after he died and because I know some of their close friends well, I know that they lied repeatedly and worked to manufacture a marketable presence. YouTube videos are just commercials. Why do you think they threatened to sue anyone who posted a real live video, errors included?

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      David Stone 8 months ago from New York City

      Why are people like you always comparing Abraham-Hicks to the Bible? There is not connection. They are completely different things.

      "What is wrong with teaching people to live with positive thoughts rather than negative thoughts?" You're missing the point. That s not what Abraham teaches. Positive psychology is a whole other thing.

      "There are scientific studies where people have cured themselves of illnesses with just the power of their mind." No there is not. It's a common misconception that such studies were ever done. There are personal stories and individual observations, but no studies have ever proven tha people can cure themselves with their minds. Sorry to burst your bubble.

      "As to why Jerry Hicks chose "chemotherapy": whose to say he wasn't led to that by Abraham?" Jerry did. He was sent by a physician.

      "Or perhaps when his own mortality became apparent, he went "conventional"? If he had negated that option, would you be calling him a fool for that?" I never called Jerry Hicks a fool for anything, and if you actually read the details, he went conventional, as you say, at a time when he was very optimistic of recovery.

      "I also find it odd that you are so anti-Abraham, but there are links on your page to other "metaphysical" sources. How do we know: Whose truth is the true truth for the billions of people on this planet?" Again, you are reading things that are not there.

      "Am also laughing at the judgmental comments from the good little Christians on this page (again, hypocrisy)." How is it hypocrisy for them to comment on their honest beliefs? And what about your snickering at them as if you're superior? What's that?

      "Ultimately, I believe that we must find our own "truth". If you want to give your money to the church, Abraham, the little fairies in the garden, etc... go right ahead." Well, you say that while being snarky toward those who do? Who's a hypocrite now?

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      PJ 9 months ago

      Why such vehemence? Perhaps because their teachings are not yours?

      While I am not an Abraham follower, I don't believe their teachings are any more detrimental than those of the bible. However, the church has been fleecing people for thousands of years, and continues to do so. If you want to discuss "hypocrisy" check out the bible.

      What is wrong with teaching people to live with positive thoughts rather than negative thoughts? There are scientific studies where people have cured themselves of illnesses with just the power of their mind. Is it God, is it the "Universe" who knows?

      As to why Jerry Hicks chose "chemotherapy": whose to say he wasn't led to that by Abraham? Or perhaps when his own mortality became apparent, he went "conventional"? If he had negated that option, would you be calling him a fool for that?

      I also find it odd that you are so anti-Abraham, but there are links on your page to other "metaphysical" sources. How do we know: Whose truth is the true truth for the billions of people on this planet? Can YOU guarantee that your truth is the "true truth"? Maybe for YOU, but not for all.

      Am also laughing at the judgmental comments from the good little Christians on this page (again, hypocrisy).

      Ultimately, I believe that we must find our own "truth". If you want to give your money to the church, Abraham, the little fairies in the garden, etc... go right ahead.

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      David Stone 9 months ago from New York City

      Oh, dear, Joe! You've got a problem or you wouldn't overreact with such vehemence. Settle down. Christianity has nothing to do with it. Either you're comfortable with what Jerry and Esther did, or you're, like me, not. That is not a commentary on the principles of the "law of attraction," a term first used about a century ago, although the ideas were probably around before that. The thing is, the Hicks's made their own brew of it and kept adding to the sauce, taking the ideas to some strange and, for me, unreconcilable places. They get a lot of credit for spreading the word, and they deserve it. But they took it too far in trying to ring every bit of cash possible out of it.

      I hope the message eventually leaves you feeling less threatened and able to think objectively. The "law of attraction'" does not need Jerry or Esther to make it true anymore than the law of gravity required Galileo or Einstein.

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      David Stone 15 months ago from New York City

      Thanks for your observations.

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      Pelepua 16 months ago

      A friend of mine invited me to an "Abraham-Hicks" workshop which I attended today. I had never heard of Abraham-Hicks. I did a little research, felt uncertain, but went anyway. I have to say, about 30 minutes into the program, I felt something was very wrong. I found the approach and conveyance of information very disingenuous., crass and calloused. I think the most important thing to note is that "The Law of Attraction" is one of a number of spiritual laws. These laws work together, they are not mutually exclusive. One must be in balance with chakras, energy as well as the spiritual laws to achieve what "Abraham-Hicks" suggests. You do not need to buy "Abraham-Hicks" books, DVD's, subscriptions or the like to achieve or succeed with the law of attraction, just ask. Ask God, The Universe, The Source, whatever you would like to call the energy I refer to as love and light as well as archangels, angels, Ascended Masters and guides for help and guidance to achieve balance. Study and learn how to create, physical, spiritual & emotional balance. Purely spiritual beings would never address someone in need, someone who's confused or misguided in such a disrespectful manner. Communication is always positive and encouraging. Look within for answers and don't be afraid to ask for help.

      I would like to note that the word "cult," based on my observations, is appropriate. In the article Esther is described as "open-minded" and "vulnerable." In my personal opinion, I would also refer to the participants of the workshop as "open-minded" and "vulnerable."

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      beginnersmind 17 months ago

      Sonny, not being gullible is not synonymous with not being able to listen and talking too much. If you want to believe this nonsense, then by all means, knock yourself out, but don't expect others to. Nice try though with the tactic of ad hominem rather than actually addressing what has been said. Though that is rather typical of people who are trying to protect their beliefs.

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      beginnersmind 21 months ago

      It's good that there are articles such as this, to bring a voice of discernment to these claims of channeling some higher beings. Pop spirituality seems to be the hot commodity for people with 1st world problems. Having read my share of Abraham-Hicks years ago, I don't even think I can classify this as spirituality, but greed wrapped in "spiritual ideas".

      It's not like the Hicks' ideas are new anyway. They basically took most of them from authors such as Robert Collier, Charles F. Haanel, Napoleon Hill, etc. and just threw in "higher beings" to give an authoritative flavor.

      I don't doubt the power of the mind and that it can greatly influence our health, environment, and lives, but when these truths are extrapolated into magical fantasies with our own personal "genie in a bottle", one must begin to call BS. The ones really benefiting from LOA are the ones convincing the gullible and desperate that this type of LOA is true and then selling these people all their merchandise.

      IMO, LOA as taught by the Hicks is rather egocentric and to blame and explain away disasters, illnesses, tragic events simply on one's vibration, either individually or collectively is immature at best, and actually rather irresponsible and heartless.

      It is very easy for someone who has all their basic needs met and then some, to say that one's poverty or a country's poverty is simply a result of their vibration, without taking into account such variables such as social stratification, cannibalistic capitalism, and exploitation- either through labor or resources. Not only is this spiritually immature, it is socially irresponsible.

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      surfah 22 months ago

      to me, the proof is in the pudding. Their books were fun but they took from others--nothing was new-just re-packaged. When Esther always said chemo was not the best option and then they ran to it, saying it was an ant/spider bite (could have been an actual cancerous skin eruption from leukemia?)...Then he dies and she started 'channeling' JERRY--that told me its all FAKE, for the money and she is leading her followers down the proverbial money laden path. Get real.

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      David Stone 22 months ago from New York City

      Sorry, everyone who writes something you don't like doesn't have an axe to grind. Maybe some are just interested in writing the truth about what they see or think both sides of a story, not just the sales side, should be considered. I hope balance isn't a problem for you.

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      Fasi 22 months ago

      Wow, you seem to have an axe to grind.

      Let it go...

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      You make some aggressively good points, RainbowKittens. All I can add is that the Abraham-Hicks Cult, like many religions, is founded on hatred toward the world, the real one that requires work, thinking and is not sprinkled with fairy dust.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Avie, lashing out an name-calling aren't really defenses, are they? Just for the record, I read all of the books available at the time I wrote this, and I have good friends who worked closely with Esther and Jerry. I also listened to many hours of podcasts of their "workshops." I was also one of the earliest members of the Abe Forum. I hope it doesn't disappoint you terribly that someone who may have just as much exposure, and probably more, as you sees things differently than you do.

      This makes you angry for some reason. Generally, when someone starts spitting, fuming and hurling accusations, it's because some doubt in themselves has been stirred. That's good. Unless you are aware of both sides of any issue, you can never be sure of yourself. Looking deeper is a better response than anger. It's no problem for me. I've been attacked by Abers for years, usually with the same all emotion, no argument style. But my advice to you is, check your anger at the door and see if your confidence is based on reality or wishful thinking. You might save yourself some trouble and years of wasted pursuit of the "law of attraction."

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      RainbowKittens 2 years ago

      Esther says of her current relationship with her dead hubby, Its better than ever. Hmmm, well Jerry must have been doing it wrong then. Or shes violently slandering him and doing the most awful for profit backstabbing I've ever seen.

      First an admission, I believe in and have experienced what I believe is LOA. Secondly, an admission, I think Esther Hicks and her "skilled inspiration", Abraham (her sites words) are like cockroaches hiding behind and contaminating some beautiful spirituality. Any use anyone gets from "LOA" is in SPITE of Esther and Abraham, not because of it.

      Take this for example, stolen and contaminated antibiotics may still work, but it nothing like the read deal, and it may have terrible side effects, like this cult of delusion Esther Hicks is selling.

      If you are a dishonest person, it must be your dream to have an product, when it doesn't work, you just claim, You must be doing it wrong, and because the product is delusion, then its obvious if you perceive something off, you are simply not pleasurably deluded enough.

      Imagine for a moment this, that delusion is her opinion of being pleased within this world.

      Esther advocates delusion, because she is a non believer.

      Delusion is the opposite of real love. Esther has soothed her sheeple to sleep, and once asleep she whispers, Delusion is The Way, Do not wake up, no matter what you see.

      Imagine this for a moment, that seeing through delusion, that being principled, honest, genuinely giving to others, is not a "PAIN" to anyone but the criminal. Which is why Esther says, lying is just a way to feel better. Because she empathizes with the dishonest. She lies and says everything is simply a path to feeling better. Then what of people who choose to harm, or help? Are they equal? Only a criminal would insist so. And only a criminal would not understand that there is pleasure in sacrificing for others, in upholding standards of honesty and integrity.

      This is why its okay to "merge" with "Jerry" and play, for profit, what would Jerry say. Because delusion is the only pleasure you can find in a world that you actually hate. So, is Jerry just sensations Esther feels or imagines, or a real being, with a real spirit? Is the pleasurable delusion of playing, "what would Jerry say?", equal or better than having his physical body around?

      And is Esther doing a skilled inspiration of Jerry, or actually channeling him? Shes never claimed to channel anyone ever. So this means Jerry is a skilled inspiration much like Abraham.

      This disgusts me. So, how about a joke to lighten up the mood?

      What goes baddabumpKATCHING?

      The sound Esther in the Monster Bus running over Jerrys body and cashing in on his ghost.

      If anyone finds this offensive, remember what Esther says when an old person dies, "its good to see the old ones go" and "croaked" and "there is no death" Its all just a fat joke, and all death is suicide right? And suicide is just catching up and getting all your stuff, right?

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      Avie 2 years ago

      Wow! What a shallow, petty, small-minded individual YOU are!! I dont know anything about Abraham Hicks but i DO know a bitter,mean-spirited person when I see one! Do us all a favor,dude, and switch to decaf before you begin another diatribe on YOUR version of the truth. From the sound of all the comments, you dont strike me as a big supporter of the first amendment OR Voltaire. Good luck to you.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      Yes, people are quite capable of making their own choices, which is why it's good that they have a chance to consider all points of view. That's how we chose presidents, decide what movies to which and what foods we eat.

      Yet, you say, "who cares what they claim or don't claim," as if integrity and honesty are of no consequence.

      I understand that it's not easy to be shown that your most cherished beliefs may be based on flimflam, but if your beliefs have a solid foundation, they will survive any storm anyway.

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      lin8t 3 years ago from United Kingdom

      I'm not sure I understood the point of this article. If a person doesn't like something then tune out. People are quite capable of making their own choices. At the end of the day everyone is human, who cares what they claim or don't claim. The only important thing is what you choose to do with your own life.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      You're claim that we can't know anything that exists doesn't hold water. We know a lot. The Abraham-Hicks philosophy, if it actually qualifies as something that coherent, is in fact filled with claimed facts, some hilariously inaccurate. These stand cheek by jowl with claims that we make it all up, equally hilarious, as long as you don't fall for it and start alienating friends and family with the nonsense as many have done.

      Let's take an example. Esther has claimed that human's did not descend from apes, via evolution, but that humans were a whole different idea. We know from a very well populated and carefully document tree that what she says simply isn't so. She also claims that people were alive in the time of the dinosaurs. The fossil record proves she's off by millions of years. You see, it's not that she denies there are facts. She's just careless, from lack of education, in knowing what they are.

      I don't know why you put "speak the truth" in quotations. You weren't quoting me. What I share are my opinions, based on objective observation, personal experience and education. Maybe not truth with a capital T, but honest and genuine.

      By the way, I was and am a hippie. And as far as your claim that I "rail against them so," haven't you heard of having a different opinion? Everyone who disagrees with Esther Hicks' claims isn't railing against her. Balance is a good thing. And as far as judgment goes, that's a red herring. All of us judge all the time - who to make friends with, what jobs to do, what to have for lunch. It's a big part of what makes us human. We reason. We decide. That's judgment.

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      acb 3 years ago

      Also, they NEVER claimed to adhere to the "truth" but just the opposite...the promoted ignoring reality if it doesn't suit you. Sure, sticking your head it the sand can be as much a form of resistance as swimming upstream but that is for us to figure out...to get to that point of honesty with ourselves. I love the theatricality of it, the charlitanism of it...THAT"S THE POINT! On top of this, the clincher is that what they promote is that DYING IS AWESOME! So arguably, Jerry n Esther, not being Abraham, may have had some difficulties with it. Ha, so fun!

      Creating communicable teachings is infamously difficult, if not impossible to do. But in my experience, (philosophy and religious studies) the way the Hicks folks lead us to water is pretty effective and for sure fun...i might even make some of the more bitter wells like death sweet or at least palatable.

      You can say that you are a writer and that as a writer you feel you need to "speak the truth" but does that need to be the aim of everyone then? And even if one were to allow that that is the underlying aim of all writers (which I am sure there are many that would not!) does the way one aims to do that have to be uniform? More importantly the idea of the "truth" is NOT a done deal. How foolish to be arguing it as something that definitely exists moreover is something you have a grasp of...this is fun! I love arguing! :D Dood, I get as sick of the hippie dippie BS as much as the next...New Yorker...but I also know that the most I can know is that I know nothing and any "judgment" I feel justified in making is a red flag, hopefully found suspect, and subsequently called in for questioning. So, what is your deal? Why do you rail against them so?

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @carriedale: carriedale, your claim that there is no objective truth is one of the dumbest I've ever heard. Such emptiheadedness explains how you manage to be an Abraham-Hicks follower.

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      carriedale 3 years ago

      Truth is what we decide it is. If you think Abe-Hicks is the truth, then so it is! If you don't, then you will find your proof. So does it feel better and more truthful to believe what they teach, or not? If not, then I would suggest finding someone who does line up more with what you feel is your version of the truth, rather than going out on a limb to convince others of your truth. And, in practicing what I preach, I am totally cool with either you believing they are the real deal, or not. I only want for everyone to follow their truth, feel good and enjoy life.

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      angelofabundance 3 years ago

      I have listened to many channeled recordings of Abraham. I like the series on LOA. I am a firm believer in LOA even before Mr. Hicks. I have never read his work I have to admit but I have read about him. I am of the opinion that when anyone is well known in the public eye that there will always be negative commentary , speculation and judgments.What ever the real "story" is , we are only getting one side and hearing one side. I feel that in our human bodies we make mistakes misinterpret and form our opinions based on our experiences in our life.I choose not to make any judgement even though as a human I do wonder what the reality is, but that is my human brain. I feel that we are ALL here to learn and grow and we all make choices that do not always turn out to be good, but that's how we grow. So i have not formed an opinion about the inconsistencies or what they teach or their message. I my self am a medium and we are never 100% accurate.But I have to say Some people need to hear teachings any times before they get it. for you and I we get what we need and we are done. Thanks for the thought provoking lens!

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @catamaran6: I have no idea what loopy idea "step four" is, but Esther's rationalizations about Jerry's death were all after the fact. Before and during his illness, they both claimed he was not resisting anything, but was on the path of least resistance, in fact. Jerry even claimed in an email blast that he'd recorded a session with Abraham that highlighted whatever it was he did that caused him to be ill (The still weren't 'fessing up to cancer yet.) and he "would never do that again." Jerry tried every treatment available, including a reported (then denied) trip to South Korea for experimental therapy during which he died. If he was willing to go through all that, even declaring his intention to get well and back on stage, why didn't he just take an Abraham cure and be well within "a few days?" The Abraham-Hicks crowd, which on their website still claims Jerry is alive, never answered that question. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why.PS: Jane Roberts was a chain smoker who died of lung cancer, not some vibration. Her writings are a lot more credible than Esther's lazy, dumbed down spirituality.

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      catamaran6 3 years ago

      I'll try that one. Abe has used both "croaked" and "transitioned" forever. They usually use croak when they're talking about the future but if someone is in the hotseat who has suffered a loss, they say transition. Esther has been amazingly candid about why Jerry's vibration wasn't in the right place to heal. His resistance might be part of what your blog points to. Abe talks often about how Esther hears this stuff but can't always apply it. It's one thing to channel, or listen to this info. Following successfully takes mastery. Possibly the greatest channel ever, Jane Roberts died tragically young, and Seth said the same thing. Abe has also said you can live forever, but it's not the point. Jerry was wayyyy up there - I believe he was well over 20 years her senior, and she's close to 70. His transition seemed to have taught Esther much and she has never been more in her personal alignment with step four.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @spiritrhythms: So, then, can you - in your wisdom and with your great experience - explain why Jerry "transitioned" but everyone else "croaked." "Abraham" used to get a crude chuckle, bragging about being "so disrespectful" when others' loved ones died. She even said, "It's good to see the old ones go." How come all that stopped when it was Esther's loved one.And why on earth would anyone need a "'bridge' to prove the spirit is eternal" when they already had Abraham? And if Jesus already did it, as you claim, why would a nobody special like Jerry need to do it again? Why not just croak like everyone else?This is cultish hogwash.

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      spiritrhythms 3 years ago

      If one has been following the workshops; Jerry became a transition or "bridge" to prove the spirit is eternal (as Jesus did) and he is now a part of the Abraham Spirit Guide Group channeled by Esther. Spirit is an extension of God, and God has "not" stopped talking to us. :)

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @bev2010: Oh, boy, you picked a team there. First, Louise Hay is a publisher. Her business is selling books, including some really questionable authors like Gary Renard.If you're paying attention at all, you'll notice that Wayne Dyer is a good soldier who endorses everything, including Gary Renard, he is asked to by Hay House. He has hurt his own credibility this way, but it still sells books, which is what the game is about.Neale Donald Walsch? Are you kidding? Not only was he caught plagiarizing the work of another, less known writer (He said he must have somehow unconsciously absorbed the work which he reproduced almost exactly and claimed as his own.), his most popular work, Conversations with God, is no more than a rehash of other people's research which Walsch claims God himself delivered to him in private conversations. Like "spiritual guru" Esther Hicks, Walsch has never come up with a single original idea I am aware of. It's all reprocessed for sale and pitched, much like the Hicks' work, as privileged information from a divine source. which it certainly is not. By the way, you could make a much longer list of respectable spiritual leaders who wouldn't touch Esther Hicks with a ten foot pole, let alone recommend her.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @bev2010: bev2010, who asked?

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      bev2010 3 years ago

      If it was a scam it wouldn't be recommended by the main spiritual gurus such as Louise Hay, Wayne Dyer and Neale Donald Walsch!

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      bev2010 3 years ago

      I think you should concentrate on your own life and have compassion for others.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @andynash100: Sorry to disappoint you, Andy, but as a matter of fact, I'd bet you good money I've listened to and read more of Abraham-Hicks books and workshops than you have. And the quote you claim was "modified" is the full version of an A-H daily quote mass e-mailed many times to followers. And I'll go you one better. I have good friends who knew Jerry and Esther personally, travelled with them on their old Monster bus and dined with them. I have plenty of anecdotes I haven't shared. One person wanted to me to write a book about them. My expertise on them, from a lot of exposure and off-line experiences is extensive. So, you needn't worry about my not having "taken the time to even start to understand," comforting though it may be for you to hide behind that hopeful untruth. Our disagreeing on what we take out of our exposure to Esther and Jerry shouldn't be misconstrued as a lack of understanding.And Abraham does claim proper manipulation of the "law of attraction" does turn you into a superhuman "megabeing" or does "You create your own reality" mean something other than what it clearly says? A lot of Abe followers have tried to back off Esther's more extreme claims since Jerry died or made the startling claim that what's clearly in black and white is being misinterpreted. That helps Esther by letting her off the hook, freeing her from ever explaining the lies about Jerry's illness and why her cures never did him any good.Here's a tip for you though. Jerry never practiced any of the Abraham methods, like focus wheels and so on, and Esther didn't do a lot them either. Guess why.

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      andynash100 3 years ago

      Ok, the article seems to be written by someone who is well-intentioned in pursuing his version the truth, but has totally misunderstood Abraham-Hicks's version of law of attraction. He claims Jerry and Esther once said they could heal any disease in an afternoon, but doesn't back that up with any references to where they actually said that, only an ambiguous, modified version of something that was said subesquently.Fact is, nobody claims law of attraction turns anyone into some superhuman megabeing resistant to absolutely everything at the snap of a finger. Law of attraction is good and helpful for some people, but there are other people who won't relate to it at all. If you don't relate to it, and it's not your thing, then that's cool. But the author of the article displays a lot of vitriol criticizing something that he clearly hasn't taken the time to even start to understand. Sometimes it can be quite emotionally rewarding to write a vitriolic article blasting some terrible perceived scam out of the water, and I feel this article is more about the author than it is about Esther and Jerry Hicks.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sjeromes: Is it a gift or a curse to reinforce your magical beliefs by ignoring facts and grasping as theoretical straws? Give yourself a little time to gain perspective, then come on back and let us know what your experience teaches you.First, you're arguing against Esther and Jerry, not me. I agree. By 84, your body is likely to start breaking down in serious ways. Jerry's did. What happened, though, contradicted everything Esther and Jerry had been pitching for years. The quotes are posted above, if you care to read them. (You probably don't because you have a problem with facts.Jerry admitted he was hospitalized and receiving chemotherapy, having lied about his condition just a few days before, but he scrambled to misrepresent his condition as being caused by a spider bite or a high white blood cell count. Never mentioned cancer and neither did Esther until he died, and the reason is obvious. They could not square the facts with what they'd been teaching, so they ignored the facts.Contrary to you claim, early on, Jerry said he was sailing through chemo, amazing all the medical staff as his lack of adverse symptoms. He later went on to claim that he'd had a conversation with "Abraham" -- we know who that is, right? Abraham, he said helped him pinpoint the cause of his illness. Jerry said, without details, that he was never going to do that again. As time passed, he and Esther claimed to be "playing" together on weekends. They even staged a balloon ride in which they tried to show Jerry out having a good time. Of course, all this was twisted to sales pitches, but what isn't with them? Even the daily quotes they email now have pitches for what they call workshops.Finally, "Abraham," through Esther, always said it was supposed to be easy. Now, you say it isn't. Hm? Jerry cuddled up next to Abraham every night. Why didn't all those easy cures work for him, for as Esther claims "any illness." By the way, Jerry reinforced the teachings by saying he would not die of a disease, but would chose his own fantastic method. He fantasized about jumping out a window because, according to Abraham, neither illness nor aging were necessary, so why do either?Finally, your concern for "that weak part" of me is touching. But I already know what it is. I'm a writer by profession. When you write, I believe, you have a moral obligation to be as truthful as you can. Playing safe by ignoring the facts or their implications isn't okay. Integrity's my weakness. I hope you understand.

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      sjeromes 3 years ago

      You are wrong! If anything Hicks death does more to prove Abrahams teachings than it disproves them. You have an 84 year old man fighting cancer and most likely in tremendous PAIN!!! That in it self would make it difficult enough for anyone to concentrate enough to obtain a healing. Add to the fact that at his age there might have been a part of him that just wanted to move on? That too would have prevented a healing. You made the assumption that he was somehow superhuman because of his beliefs but that's not the case. Even Jesus died my friend. We all have it in us to obtain whatever we want in this life but we still have to deal with our human weaknesses. If this stuff were easy after all everyone would be in perfect health and win the lottery. Now maybe its time for you to look in yourself and find out what that weak part of you is that makes it necessary for you to write stuff like this?

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @eileenwright: Thank you for commenting, Eileen.

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      eileenwright 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: I agree with you! And to be honest, I didn't research them when I started reading a couple of their books. But that was because what I read was very much in line with what I had read from other authors, ones I do trust, such as Venice Bloodworth, Joseph Murphy, Ernest Holmes, Charles and Myrtle Fillmore and others. The Hicks explained the Law of Attraction in a way that helped me to understand it more clearly.I'm very glad I found your site. II didn't know Jerry Hicks had passed until I heard a very recent interview of Esther by Wayne Dyer. So I googled Jerry and found you!And I will say, as one of your readers did, there are things about them that never sat well with me (like Esther's accent change when Abraham first comes in and then tends to disappear as the seminar progresses) So for me, the jury is still out. Reading your articles, I would tend to agree with you that they were/are very slick marketers. And of course I had no idea about their previous infidelities.But do I think channeling is a fantasy? Well, I think of Edgar Cayce. I do know there were accusations of fraud made against him but that there were some pretty amazing healings based on his suggestions. And if memory serves, he was not a well-educated man and yet he could give detailed medical advice after being spot-on with his diagnosis. And he was accused of saying some pretty crazy stuff too.If Abraham is a total scam, i'm happy I only spent a few dollars on two of their books. And if I had spent more, then I am the only one to blame because I didn't do my research. And yes, I agree that everyone should only spend money on a credible teacher...wish Venice Bloodworth were still with us. But I still say, it's up to the individual to make an informed decision. But do appreciate very much your point of view!

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @eileenwright: Well, okay, but if you're going to spend your cash on a teacher, why not a credible one that doesn't have a history of nutty, inaccurate claims?

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      eileenwright 3 years ago

      I don't know whether Abraham-Hicks is a scam or not. Maybe it is. But even if they were only regurgitating Napoleon Hill and other "feel-good" spiritual leaders, there is still truth in the message. There are just too many sources of the same message spread out over centuries from all over the world to believe that the Law of Attraction and related spiritual principles is a fantasy made up by desperate humans looking for relief from the pain in their lives. All one has to do is take a look at quantum physics to understand there is WAY more going on than meets the eye! And I have had experiences that I guess a skeptic would chalk up to being just coincidences, but I believe them to be more than that. When you look at Nature, at everything, it is so difficult to believe that whatever Force that is, it is also present in us? So-called spontaneous healing, telepathic communication (most of us have had the experience of thinking of someone and "coincidentally" the phone rings and there they are!), an internal "nudge: that we should or should not do something (which later turned out to be a good thing like someone feeling they shouldn't get on a plane and it later crashes),...all of this points to something much much bigger than we can perceive.The Hicks' are/were spiritual beings having a human experience. And maybe in their humanness, creating a character known as Abraham to communicate their beliefs was what they did. And maybe they feel that the end (helping people) justifies the means. Only they know for sure. And if their motives were not at all altruistic and they were/are laughing all the way to the bank, I do believe that what goes around, comes around. Nothing vengeful about this principle, it just is what it is. But the bottom line is everyone has a choice as to how they want to spend their money and if there are those who choose to go see Abraham, that is their right. But it is wise to remember Caveat Emptor!

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      dave97 3 years ago

      Lol many opportunists,so little time.Dr. Hulga Clark was a renowned alternative medicine guru who claimed to have many cures for cancer.UNFORTUNATELY THEY JUST DIDN`T WORK ON HER.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @ronalds4percent: So, there you go, buddy. You made your way through three comment sections without once responding to the subject, only to the comments. The Abraham-Hicks advocates retain their perfect record for evasion.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @ronalds4percent: If you were here on Earth with the rest of us, you'd be more aware that telling people the "life is like movie" shows contempt for the way they live their lives, your level of awareness being so superior. Life isn't like a movie. You seem to forget that we participate in ours. Only advocates of such gobbledygook as "ego concepts" see it as anything so shallow as "play." Life's an investment, not entertainment. "Thanks life, for having me...?" Oh, brother, where do you guys get this stuff? Oh, wait, I know. From Hay House writers who specialize in facile solutions that succeed the nonsense advocated last year by Hay House writers.

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      ronalds4percent 3 years ago

      @sharka69: We all do the best we can, at any given moment in time. This goes for EVERY-BODY, no exceptions. Understanding this 'truth' will not eliminate the 'reflex' to judge, but it could make your life experience a lot more enjoyable. Sharka69 has clearly reached this level of awareness, where the 'ego concepts' probably are still there, but one isn't as much attached to them anymore, compared to most, conditioned, people. Life is like a movie, where you're both watching and playing at the same time - it's just a question of: how much of the time (if any) are you aware of the part you're playing? (and what's outside that movie? Although, this might not even be a 'valid' question, but more like the ego in action, searching for one more concept for its collection :-)Thanks life, for having me

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      ronalds4percent 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: DaveStone13 - Yawn, yawn, yawn...

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      sharka69 3 years ago

      I read and listen widely and the Abraham material is one source of teachings that I have returned to over the years. I am also interested in criticism of any work I study but I have found no criticism of Abraham-Hicks to be particularly convincing.For me what matters is the material- the teachings themselves. I never felt Jane Roberts death in 1985 cast any aspersions on her work as Seth, for example. The material still speaks for itself and I never hold the life of the messenger as being the example of whether the work is valid or not. That measurement is my own experience and what I observe of the world around me.The nature of this work is that it connects our inner and outer experience and because we only have access to our own inner experience we can only judge the validity of the work by looking at our own life and inner world. Other people's experiences are irrelevant in this regard because we don't have access to their inner experience to judge its relationship to their outer manifestations.Jerry's death and his use of chemotherapy near the end doesn't surprise me. Sure, it reflects a lack of faith in his ability to heal himself but when you are desperate most will turn to outside help and may even use treatments they previously rejected. This says nothing about the validity of the teachings, it just tells us about human nature and the nature of human conditioning.Thanks for your work.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @Mirata: Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Mirata.

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      Mirata 3 years ago

      I guess I quite understand your point. I just want to say that no one use only one source of information. Law of Attraction is a fact (Jerry and his wife are not inventors), regardless of how someone call it, just they make the things to sounds easy and simple. Which not always is so. Old truth is that people teach others of that to what they themselves want to learn. No matter if they know about that or they think that they are masters. Of course, it would be ideal if Jerry had more strength and faith, or Esther more humility and wisdom. BUT this would happen in an ideal world. This does not mean that in their books not exist enough good things that can be used. I think your point is more moral than the practical. Of course, that for the people with hard problems, this is not relevant guidance. But people with hard problems not use that kind of books. Of course, that one should sifted the information trought his own the moral code and personal instinct, but this applies to all the things you see and do. Especially this is true for many practical realistic (and mostly cynical) philosophies of life. Every human being chooses what to believe and how to make sense of their lives. I think it is very brave (there's another word for it) to disparages and underestimate intellectually the people because they choose to believe in something that you do not believe. In all cases, your information is useful and enlightening. So thank you very much and have good day!

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @Shedrackari: Shedrackari - Yawn...

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      Shedrackari 3 years ago

      I just get to discover the Hicks books and presently reading the laws of attraction, very fascinated book i must add. Going through your article here, pretty interesting I must say, however does not prove what I have read so far false. I mean after so many years of providing information and guidance from this non physical entity, it would take once death to use as a tool to try sway others and yourself from that the Hicks are a host is ridiculous. I mean death is inevitable right, all will experience it, want it or not its coming. In respect to the illness who knows what state of mind Jerry was in. Please note as quickly u get into alignment you can also get out (Abraham). Further in respect to illness, Abraham did mention if in your state of mind conventional medicines you believe will get you some relieve, then that is the route you will take. So maybe Jerry was at the state, cancer is a serious sickness, scary, its possible Jerry was focus on the cancer instead of health. Abraham said, if the focus is absent of health then of coarse you will attract sickness... I mean Jerry ask Abraham about about few ppl who were very ill, didn't pay attention to illness and got well. It might have been difficult for him an old man. My suggestion Mr. Dave, is read the books before attacking a movement years in existence just because the co founder dies.Ms. Williams, yes the book talks about following our instinct (guiding system/broader you) and you will never go wrong whether you know that guiding system exist or not :)

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @williamslaw: Good for you. You must've been encouraged to trust yourself when you were young. Not everyone gets that.Thank you.

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      williamslaw 3 years ago

      Never been a follower. I have always trusted my instincts and it is really satisfying to know my instincts have never failed me.

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      brian-fletcher-127 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: In the past, I recognise I could not hear the "music" because of the noise of group perceptions. The term "despicable character", particularly in the era of mass media, is subject to the same second hand noise perhaps ?

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @brian-fletcher-127: For me, it would, yes. "Divine," a word I've really grown to dislike for all its excessive use, is in the eyes and ears of the beholder.

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      brian-fletcher-127 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: Just remembered a favorite confrontational example. If one discovered that Mozart was a "despicable character", would that diminish the affinity one had developed with such divine music ?

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      brian-fletcher-127 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: Hi David,The point I missed, from my own experience, is that "authenticity" in this subject of advanced levels of consciousness comes ONLY from personal first hand experience. Eben Alexander being a brilliant example of an advanced intellectual (scientist), communicating from his personal "first hand experience",which by definition, becomes anecdotal when it is passed on, and also by definition, doesn't fit the realm of the empirical.Scientists who have yet to experience such phenomena as E.A. have (usually) a derogatory view of such evidence and can become quite hostile.(Yes it happens amongst intellectuals also). They are only being true to their group consciousness of course. A phenomenon clearly understood by the likes of E.A., if not initially, definitely by now. A channel, also by the same definition, provides ONLY anecdotal information.Channeling as such, is purported to be (by the practitioners) a stream of information, from beyond the channel's own direct stream. Daryl Ankar (Bashar) explains this well. He states unequivocally, he does not have the same level of clarity as does his "entity" even though, the entity states he is an advanced stage of Daryl. The reason Im mentioning this, is that those who gravitate from a "confident belief" through this type of source(one step from knowing) can be easily "thrown", by the behavior of the messenger, as I mentioned previously.The bottom line is, experience is the ONLY teacher. It is good to remember that a "master" has achieved mastership by exactly the same process..EXPERIENCE, and, as the marvelous snowflake example, will affirm that no two experiences can be (or need to be) alike.Those at the believers stage, share common interpretations, usually via past channels (scribes as such)..anecdotal again, of past masters. Essential steps on the journey...as "current masters" will confirm.They are EXPERIENCING "beliefs", without which, the individual will not be able to recognise "knowing". (The basis for "Judge not" perhaps .....)In this context, I had already experienced what Abraham/Bashar et al have communicated, so heard only confirmation, and because of that experience, I completely understand why the channel may not be able (yet) to apply the very wisdom they are a catalyst for. I have no need to pursue Esther's explanation re her husbands death. I know the nature of believers responses, being one of the costs of the $ophist must pay. Yet another essential step.Final point....It is easy to throw the message away, and "lock in" to the nature (judgment) of the messenger. Such examples being observable differences between belief and knowing.In my early days, I experienced a master who purposely (in full consciousness), by his behavior, disrupted his believer streams, where they left with much indigence leaving only the "knowers" to continue. Often such masters experience the opposite in their "apprentice" stage. They often develop awareness that contradicts believer groups consciousness they once had an affinity with, and are kicked out!!! My favorite example being Socrates.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @brian-fletcher-127: Thank you for your comment, Brian.

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      brian-fletcher-127 3 years ago

      There is always a role for $ophists in our world. I have only fairly recently listened to "Abraham" and my favorite Bashar. Thing is, I learned about the role of these "professional" teachers decades ago, and when I listen to them (these two at least) I get immense amounts of confirmation of realities I have long been "in tune" with. Factors which I have experienced first hand. There was one of Abraham recently, where an intending would be Congressman asked in effect, "how can I be of some value". Her response was absolutely brilliant, and this man of obviously of the highest ethics replied by saying "that's the most advanced spiritual political insight I have ever heard" It was indeed.What did I think when I just heard about the death (an hour ago)? Same as I always have on my path. For those who have not yet totally embraced their own authentic reality, such events will "throw them".Perhaps a long bow to draw (but typical emotional reaction). Why would the "son of God" in the Christian tradition, be allowed by the Father, to suffer as he did. The $ophists say, it was "for their sins", when the teacher himself said that we all reap what we sow..a tradition of awareness known as karma, that predates the western religious understanding ,but is now embraced with both classic and quantum physics.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @ecogranny: That's a fairly accurate summary, although the sequence was not quite like that.Thank you, especially for noticing the title I used to give myself.

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      Kathryn Grace 3 years ago from San Francisco

      Until your articles here, I never heard of Abraham-Hicks or the Hicks family. Reading your article, I can almost feel the sense of betrayal you must have felt as your disillusionment grew. Yet it seems that from that disillusionment, at least in part, arose a mind that learned to trust itself and its own visions.I congratulate you on coming through to the other side and discovering within yourself "the happiest man in the world."

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @xarrian: Sorry, kid. There is no positive or negative way of looking at things. All there is is an honest look at the clearest truth. Uhm, Jerry himself said that he wanted to live through the leukemia and get back on the road with Esther as soon as he gained back 15 pounds. How, then, did you figure out that it was his "choice of moving on?" Was Jerry lying? Or do you think he deliberately wanted to make what his wife had preached for year look foolish? How any human being, when having a choice, fails to see the big picture is sad indeed, a sorry commentary on the state of wisdom about Abraham-Hicks followers. If you look at the whole thing, it will only seem bad, if it is. Spiritually genuine teachers have no fear of the facts. No reason to. But Esther tells you to look at things from just one angle. Guess why.

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      xarrian 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: Man oh man! DS .. you remind me of an old old old man .. filled with too much hurt to be able to see the sun - and, with nothing better to do than what you obviously do. How any human being, when having a choice of looking at the positive and looking at the negative .. choose the negative ... is sad indeed. I guess when you look at death from a duality perspective, and as a bad thing, as you must do, it would be fairly impossible to 'see' how Jerry may have enjoyed his choice of moving on. Ha! Moving on from unconsciousness in some might even be a JOYOUS CHOICE! Don't you think. And pleeease .. no answer is necessary - read one - you've read them all.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @waynewilliams57: Yes, and 15 pounds of weight loss in about a month. They grow 'em extra nasty down there.

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      waynewilliams57 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: Good to hear from you to Dave. I am living in Florida these days. But I got be careful as you know, there are big bad poisonous spiders here. Sure would not want to get whacked by the species that bit Jerry Hicks. Dem Kind uh spidas down heuh in the South have been know to cause CANCER.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @waynewilliams57: Hey, Wayne. Hadnt heard from you in a while. I see you've kept your passions stoked. Thanks for jumping in.

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      waynewilliams57 3 years ago

      @ikabob: Hello Ikabob: This lens by Dave Stone is about one thing and one thing only. Jerry Hicks now deceased and croaked from cancer, Esther Hicks the remaining partner of the scam duo, and Abrascam themselves (and no I did not mis-spell) lied, deceived, and manipulated thousands of people by trying to cover up the fact: THAT JERRY HICKS CROAKED, DIED, AND LEFT THIS PHYSICAL PLANE because HE ATTRACTED cancer into his life and he could not do anything but CROAK as a result which goes against everything Abrascam teaches that we cannot attract anything into our experience unless we invite it. Jerry therefore INVITED CANCER AND CROAKING BECAME THE INEVITABLE RESULT. In the future Ikabob, please stick to the topic at hand. And a message to you Esther as well. Is Ikabob really the best name you could come up with for your latest endeavor to continue to throw up a smoke screen to hide what really happened. Ikabob: That was a good one. Almost made me laugh.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @SteveKaye: Thanks, Steve. Amazing, yes, but pretty disappointing too.

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      SteveKaye 3 years ago

      Amazing! Thank you for publishing this lens.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @ikabob: Since you copied and pasted in two different places - apparently you planned your visit here - I left this one up. You are sadly misinformed about the facts, and Jerry never made a peep about deeper breaths. You also misspelled Esther's name. An "ester" is a chemical compound, not a person.Since you wrote your comment in advance and stopped by to paste it, I'd think you'd have done a better job. Doesn't say much for the A-H crowd of followers.

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      ikabob 3 years ago

      There has never been a charge for Abrahams message. At any gathering of Abraham an introduction CD is available free of charge. You may write them for one as well and it is postage paid free of charge. I personally chose to meet Jerry and Ester and attend several of their seminars and purchase several tapes. The message has remained the same throughout. I have never witnessed anyone being forced into participation.Jerry has made it clear what Abrahams message is, thus, drink more water, Think more better feeling thoughts and breath more deeper breaths.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @shadowfast7: Thanks.

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      Sure Temp 3 years ago

      stopped to say hi :) nice lens!

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Thanks for the thought, esteb. I disagree with you position about there being no "real contribution" to criticizing Esther and Jerry Hicks. In the face of boundless promotion by this operation, balance is a necessity. People considering them ought to be able to look at both sides. The Hicks people do not think anyone should be allowed to disagree, and they make efforts to stifle criticism when they can. I don't know if you can still see the thread, but Wikipedia's initial realistic report was attacked directly by Jodi Barron, then an acolyte who helped control the so-called Abe Forum. Barron relentlessly attacked until all that was left was the toothless "objective" report you see today for Esther Hicks, who according to what's left of Wikipedia is an "inspiration speaker," leaving the major nuttiness out.Those of us who are Abraham Hicks skeptics are filling in gaps no one else is willing to handle. Realistically, if what Esther Hicks presents is so viable, she should have no concern about anything written here. Wouldn't the "law of attraction" sort it all out anyway? Of course, she knows that's hogwash as well as I do.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      In 4 words: "Follow the money trail"...I would have been somehow skeptical on the validity of some of the observations made by the author of this Blog, if the "Hicks" would have offered their help to humanity without asking huge some of money (like they did for many years). That being said, what is the real contribution behind any attacks of the Hicks for their allegedly wrongdoing ? None.But, the author has the total right to bring up any issues (and he does it thoroughly) that could mislead people in their spiritual journey.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Ahnalira: There's always hope, Ahna, but I don't think, objectively, that Esther has it in her as a solo act.

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      Ahnalira 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: The months during Jerry's illness was, I agree, a missed opportunity. I wonder sometimes where the course of events would have led if Jerry and Esther had chosen to open up and let the love their community and a shared commitment to evolve open the "teachings" to an authentically shared process. I believe it could have been far more powerful than stories about problems with their homes and RVs. They made the choice, though, to withdraw even further into obfuscating through smoke and mirrors about their happy, carefree Life that could be had by all for the mere cost of a few workshops.Actually, I think it could still be very powerful and hope springs eternal in me that Esther will make the choice for the authentic path.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Ahnalira: Of course, any entity with that wisdom and insight would elegantly and thoroughly clarify any confusion and refute any errors, just in the interest to fortifying those who trust it. That never happened.For me, the real sadness was when Esther missed a chance during Jerry's illness and after his death to come clean and help her followers understand and help them get oriented. Instead, she decided to milk the event for money. There really is nothing she can do now but go home and stay there that would really be helpful. As long as she keeps pitching this stuff, real voices of real value will not be as clearly heard.

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      Ahnalira 4 years ago

      @anonymous: "(The photo here was taken, according to different sources, as long as a year and a half before his death. His weight loss is already visible. The source for the photo, a fan at the time, wishes to remain anonymous.)"In answer to whether I was ever a follower of Abraham-Hicks... the picture at the top of the article has the back of my head in it (over Esther's right shoulder.) It was taken in September, 2010, at their anniversary party. That would be 14 months before Jerry's passing.I've listened to A LOT of material over 14 years of participating in the "Jerry and Esther Hicks Show" and there are still concepts that I point to as very well scripted descriptions of concepts introduced by others, but not so well articulated. The idea of a vibratory set point from which our perceptual filters influence our interpretation of events, for example, shines for me as brightly as the algebraic equation: If A = B and B=C, then A = C. Both of them stand the test of time for me in application.That said, I know that Esther as Abraham said things to people that was medically and emotionally harmful. For example, when she told the person with type 1 diabetes, he should only test his blood sugar when he was "in the vortex" I knew for a fact, that was bad advice for the management of his health. I was in the audience for that one. That's just one very concrete example -- enough to disprove the validity of taking what Esther as Abraham says without testing and verifying across the board, imho.That doesn't diminish the entertainment value, or even the occasional insight that draws oblique esoteric concepts into easy to understand analogies. It does speak to the importance of discernment. If your articles do anything, David, they offer people the opportunity to question - to test and verify. If a teaching can't stand up to scrutiny, it isn't worth the cost of a workshop or a book, right? An advanced non-physical group of teachers would welcome that scrutiny, right?

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Good and bad are personal, private judgments. You may not have noticed "anything bad" after your immersion in A-H's books and tapes, but others have seen plenty - advocating animal cruelty, trying formulas to rope in a cult following by offering advance warnings about natural disasters that never happened, blaming the victim when illness or misfortune strikes, encouraging a selfish lack of consideration for others, espousing magical medical practices that have gotten people into serious trouble, money-grubbing, etc.As an Abraham-Hicks follower, Sally, it's natural for you to be unable to deal with facts. Another odd characteristic I've seen is tendency to feel victimized on behalf of Esther and Jerry, as if any contrary opinion must be "full of hate and anger and jealousy." Abers seem to have a hard time accepting that others have opinions that differ from theirs. Another strange one I see a lot is volunteering advice, as if I or many others would be eager to hear what anyone so enmeshed in this simplistic, spiritually shallow theology has to say.PS: If my main interest was in selling my own books, they wouldn't be listed sixth and seventh after all the heavy hitters.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I don't understand this site. I have listened to a lot of Esther Hicks on tapes and books and they have never advocated anything bad, whereas this site is full of hate and anger and jealousy. Seems to me you are trying to sell your own books but are just not so successful. I suggest you work on a more loving and understanding perspective to sell more of your books.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: That's the point, it really is that simple. Most cures for cancer (fungus) really are simple, practically free and easy to administer, and if people began to truly know what these simple cures are then the huge multitrillion debt token, health scam, would simply cease to exist. Jerry Hicks, simply bought the snake oil that was sold to him by very convincing and cunning sales people who are often charismatic masters of the human language, he bought the myth and ignored the natural remedy, a remedy that he probably supported at one time or another. Don't be fooled by fancy college degrees and so called authority figures (actors), they're quite often demonstrated to be wrong. Awaken to the fact that we are all our highest authorities and you too can actually heal yourself of most any affliction with some simple knowledge that is your natural born RIGHT to know. Knowledge, really is powerful stuff. Perhaps, our first step in our evolution is to learn to distinguish between the facts of nature and the fictional fairy-tales that we're constantly being bombarded with by persistent word magicians and political acrobats who keep their myth of power by attempting to hypnotize us into giving them the fruits of our unnecessary labor.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Unlikely to be that simple.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Yes, I agree, but the results of specific evolutionary causes related to cancer for example can be observed to be certain by simply knowing it's environmentally conditional, and or biological effects.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Evolution takes time, and the results are never certain or inevitably good. What we see are the most current signs of its progress in human awareness.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: The point is, David. We're our own best Doctors. We might be wise to stop believing in all the crap that people are attempting to shovel our way.. The Hicks are an example of a certain kind of person who has simply learned to profit by selling their specific brand of snake-oil. The snake-oil is simply a belief based idea that has no basis in the science of FACT. I call the many American institutions that are based entirely on belief, Alice's Wonderland. The cancer institute, will never find a cure, the war institute, will never know the reality of peace, the money institute will never allow the abstract notion of a DEBT slave to become free from the bondage of belief. All these institutions of belief are accepted until they're released as our knowledge expands toward the realities of nature, where all solutions currently exist. Yes, it's perfectly natural that people hold their beliefs to the great detriment of themselves and others, but why hold these beliefs so dear as the cure is already HERE? We just need eyes to SEE.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: No, I am not in the spiritual business. I write about the subject sometimes. And many of her followers have realized that she has little of value to say and much that might be dangerous. Turn out at her "workshops" has diminished, and she had to cancel the once always old out cruises.Your seeing that all spiritual teachers are teaching almost the same thing suggests an over-dependence on a such people (or how would you know about so many?) and the absence of critical thinking. There are major differences in the teachings, although Esther and Jerry gradually worked their message down to the few that were easiest to sell to lazy people determined not to actually do the work of gaining personal insight. They just let Esther spoon feed them.If a spiritual teacher teaches anyone not to notice others' faults, then that teacher is an idiot. Adults make decisions about all sorts of things in life, including the people they let into their lives. Telling them not to discriminate is equal to telling them to be trusting babies in all circumstances. Fortunately, you can't do that, even if you want to, which leaves you in a permanent state of, in Esther's words, "not letting it in."

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Hi David ! I have heard a lot Esther on youtube. but this site against/for her I see only today first time. Are you also in same spiritual business as she and try to reveal that she is fake? If she is fake, her followers will realize sooner or later after getting no result as she teaches. why so much discussion and time spending on her ? This site is determination to bring her down. I see all spiritual teacher teach almost same thing. Interesting part is after being in same business when you try to expose other means , you try to expose yourself also. Spiritual teacher teaches not to notice others fault.

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      waynewilliams57 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Part 2 of 3I listened to another of your recordings or it may have been in one of the earlier books I previously mentioned in which you have this to say regarding our Inner Being. You tell us that after a while if we fail to grow or become stuck and stop making progress towards our well being, then our Inner Being or higher self becomes discouraged and then stops offering positive support and feedback to us. Then you tell us that from then on we are pretty much on our own. This is the ultimate expression OF YOUR STUPIDITY AND TOTAL UNCARING IGNORANCE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO YOU LOOKING FOR RELIEF FROM THEIR SUFFERING. To tell someone that their higher self just gives up on them after a certain amount of time has elapsed and the person is no longer showing signs of growth is THE UTTER EXPRESSION OF YOUR CONTEMPT AND IGNORANCE FOR MANKIND. Of course you know all of this already.In another one of your workshop recordings you have this non-wonderful tidbit to share with your audience: NOW SOME OF YOU HERE ARE SO PINCHED OFF FROM YOUR WELL BEING TO THE POINT TO WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CROAK IN ORDER TO GET BACK TO PURE POSITIVE AWARENESS. Here you are telling hurting and depressed people sitting in your audience that they are going to have to commit suicide because they are so pinched off from their well being that they cannot be reached. YOU ARE A FOOL OF ALL FOOLS and the people who sit in your audience are bigger fools yet. There is an old saying that states: your enemies can teach you more about yourself than ever your friends will. Consider me your enemy because I will never honor, respect, or believe in your divinity. I know the real you and your intent to defraud and deceive and that is what you will learn from me.

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      waynewilliams57 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Dave, I wanted to respond to what Abraham posted several weeks ago. Part 1 of 2Abraham: The main reason I have delayed so long in responding to you is as follows: YOU ARE JUST NOT THAT IMPORTANT OR WORTH MINE OR ANYONE ELSES TIME IN DOING SO. You probably noticed that not one person but Dave and I have replied to you. You are a NO THING, not worth the time and effort to do so. But respond I shall, not for you, but for me and the many others that may come across my words. You cannot help a single soul in distress, you never have, and you never will. You are a COSMIC CON ARTIST in the same group as Jach Pursel who channels Larazis, J.Z. Knight who channels Ramtha, and the many others who claim they are channeling an enlightened being. I will allow Jane Roberts and Seth to be real. Jane had no Ego such as Esthers and Jerrys and was not looking to become wealthy. I believe Jane although not perfect was legit in her efforts although she to was a hypocrite in the end and could not heal herself before she died. However I don't feel hate toward Jane and Robert Butts because I see no evidence they were trying to rip people off. But I do feel HATE AND CONTEMPT for you, and you deserve every portion of it. Of course you know this already.You are worthless to any person seeking help or aid unless they are already: TUNNED IN, TURNED ON, AND TAPPED IN. You cannot help anyone with any degree of severe depression, hated, resentment, murderous intent, negative feelings, anger towards you, suicidal intent, and self hatred. You are an enemy to such people. You are therefore an enemy of mine. Of course you know this already There was an article in one of your quarterly journals several years back where Esther was telling this story about a female friend of hers who was suicidal. Esther suggested she speak to you (Abraham) After speaking to you, she killed herself a few days later. Your stupid response was: She just wanted to go ahead and die so she could pop back into PURE POSITIVE AWARENESS of her true self. No Abraham: The poor woman was suicidal over conditions in her life she could not accept or feel she could change. She believed that in talking to you she would feel comforted and find solutions. She found no such solutions but more hopelessness from your ignorant answers and lack of understanding to her dilemma. THEN!!! She killed herself. In true essence: YOU KILLED THIS WOMAN WITH YOUR WORDS AND USELESS ADVICE. Talking to you is depressing. I know from my experience in the Hot Seat on November 1, 2006 in Tampa.You continually tell us that action is not the key to creation but thought in alignment with what we desire is the key. That is only a portion of the big picture. There is this GREAT BIG LIE you leave out of the answer: BELIEF!!! In your book: Money and the Law of Attraction you wrote this sentence in black bold print: YOU CANNOT CREATE OUTSIDE OF YOUR BELIEFS. Then you never addressed it any further. You never discuss belief or how to change it. And that is why you are a CON ARTIST OF ALL TIME alongside Tony Robbins and countless others. No one can have what they want no matter how much they want it as long as they believe they cannot have it or don't have the means to obtain it. To tell people that: If you would just direct your awareness back to the knowing that the answers you seek you already know, and to remember to trust your own judgment and your own wisdom, you will gain a firm feeling of relief and you start to allow more of the things that want to show up. only puts money in Esthers pocket and leaves the seeker hurting and resentful even more so. Whenever someone in the Hot Seat starts to talk negative or about what is hurting them, you butt in and cut them off and don't allow them to continue. You think that to block people from expressing their hurt is helpful, yet you have no idea that you are merely signing their death sentence. To truly help people you have to open yourself up to being attacked, judged, criticized, hated, and to experience all of their negative emotion towards you. Of course, you know this already. Abraham, you don't love or care about anyone. All you care about is the wealth bucket you create for Esther and the late Croaked Jerry Hicks. Of course you know this already.Abraham: I like what you wrote in one of your earlier books, either the pink or green book with the titles: A New Beginning One and Two. You state: JUST BECAUSE WE ARE NON-PHSYSICAL DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE SMART. These are the only true words you have ever spoken. Now I don't believe you spoke them to put yourself down or make yourselves look foolish. They were words of manipulation for your followers to say: Hey look everybody, even Abraham admits he is not smart at times. But the blatant truth is: YOU DAMN SURE AINT SMART. In fact there is no wisdom found in your words. You are the purest form of evidence that the non-physical has no more claim on wisdom or knowledge than does our lowly Earth and all its imperfections.Abraham: In your post here you state: With every book you read and every recording you listen to and every person you meet you constantly search for an answer as thought it does not exist. If you would just direct your awareness back to the knowing that the answers you seek you already know, ect. Good advice Abraham. So how do YOU justify making hundreds of recordings, writing numerous books, conducting thousands of workshops through the years and making a monetary profit from all of these endeavors if everyone already knows everything you write and speak about. All the Abraham Hicks organization is about is Money, plain and simple, always has and always will be, things for the body, material things, more pleasure, less pain, more of this, more of that. Of course you know all this already.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @waynewilliams57: Hard to tell, Wayne. The security system could be screwing up. If there are any size limits, I'm unaware of them. Maybe it's the law of attraction getting revenge. 'Probably not, though. I'm headed out and won't be back on until this evening. Why not try splitting your comment in half and see if it works?

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      waynewilliams57 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Dave I am trying to post reply to the Abraham post from April. I have correctly entered the security words two times. I have logged of and back on and correctly typed a second security word. What am I doing wrong. Can my post be too long and that causing it not to post? Please delete this message

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: A bit off topic, Chad, but interesting as usual. Personally, I'd try almost anything before chemotherapy, but getting back to the topic, if this is true, why didn't he "masters of the universe" just trot Jerry over to the supermarket to buy this cheap easy cure?

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Are we not yet aware that cancer is simply a fungus within the body? All fungi grow under acidic conditions. So if your PH balance is acidic, then simply take a couple of teaspoons of sodium bicarbonate with six ounces of water everyday, morning and night, until your blood reaches a consistently normal PH balance. Change your diet by eating less acidic foods. you can cure yourself of cancer, how do I know this? Because I've done it. Remember, the traditional allopathic medicine industry does not profit from curing you, they profit by either making you more ill than you already are, and keeping you treated for as long as they can before you die as they drain your bank accounts. This is evidenced by the fact that they treat you with carcinogens like "radiation" treatments, poisons, and cutting into the cancer so that it spreads to other parts of the body etc.. If you want to live a long and healthy life, realize that we are our own best doctors. The body has a tremendous capacity to heal itself under the right conditions. It's our job to know what those conditions are.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @waynewilliams57: Interesting take on it, Wayne. I hope all's well with you.

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      waynewilliams57 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Hey John: Sounds like "you" are the one who has a problem with criticizing others since you are attempting to criticize "Dave" for creating his own soapbox. Dave's soap box is nothing compared to the Soapbox that Esther Hicks and Abraham have created. They have stood on their soapbox for over 25 years and made millions from doing so destroying many lives along the way.You claim you are not able to understand the law of attraction and just could not through it. I disagree. The Law of Attraction has delivered you in a less than wonderful fashion directly to the door step of Dave's blog. You are just another Puppet sent her disguised as a person who does not believe in the law of attraction or knows very little of Esther. Nice try.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: John, you're missing the point. Soap boxes were pedestals people climbed on to advocate a point of view. That's a bit different than critiquing a public figure. I don't care what philosophy people follow, even though I try to make them aware of options, but public figures of any persuasion are fair game. Few are as obvious as Abraham Hicks. They are just easy to write about.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: I've just been listening to the Hay House World Summit Esther Hicks' interview and came here as a result of Googling Jerry Hicks' death, of which I was unaware. I have read numerous books by uplifting authors, including a number of the books you have listed on this site. I was unable to get through The Law of Attraction. The information did not resonate with me.That said Dave, when you suggest that Christine "step off her soapbox", I wonder whether you might consider reflecting on the concept "what you criticize in others, you deny in yourself. My observation is that this site seems to to be YOUR soapbox.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Erin Mellor: Well, Erin, that gave me a healthy chuckle first thing in the morning.The Hicks always claimed they never "pushed" their products, just had them out there for those who were drawn to them. Funny in itself, but then another commenter reminded me of the earliest, less polished performances when Jerry would arrive with two thingsEsther and his credit card machine.