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Should Christians Eat Animals Prohibited By God?

Updated on December 1, 2017
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The Old Testament makes reference to abominable animals the Jews or Israelite were forbidden by God. Now that we are living under the New Testament which was ushered by the coming of Jesus, are we still under the laws of the Old Testament?

One such animal that was prohibited in the Old Testament is pig. This article will look at whether it is alright for Christians to eat pork or it's a sin for a Christian to eat it. It will shed light as to whether Christians should eat animals that were forbidden by God as detailed in the first books of the Old Testament.


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Nature and Characteristics of Pig

There are two major reasons why some Christian denominations don’t eat pork. The first reason has to do with the law the Israelite were handed down to by God through Moses on matters touching on food. The second reason is the preconceived idea people have about pigs. Many believe pigs are unclean because the animals prefer to be dirty than clean.

According to Ezine Articles this is not the case. In the article, ‘Pig Characteristics and Traits – Understanding Their Behavior Will Help You To Take Care of Pigs,’ it is noted by Sarah F. Brown, “One of the distinct pig characteristics is their cleanliness. Contrary to other people’s belief, pigs are generally clean animals. This is shown by their choice of toilet far away from their food and water troughs and their shelter. They will also not sleep or lay near the manure. They use mud to block their sensitive skin from the sun and insect bites.”

It will come as a shock to many that pigs are one of the top intelligent animals in the animal kingdom. In the same article, Sarah notes that pigs are smarter animals in that they can learn new behaviors and scientists believe they are smarter than primates and three-year old children. “The reason why pig farmers create strong pens and fences is that pigs can escape from even a relatively good fence. They are known to work in pairs and sometimes, smarter swine even open other pens to let other pigs escape.”

The Law in the Old Testament

Leviticus 11: 1-8

Then the Lord said to Moses and Aaron,

“Tell the people of Israel that the animals which may be used for food include any animal with cloven hooves which chews its cud. 4-7 This means that the following may not be eaten: The camel (it chews the cud but does not have cloven hooves); The coney, or rock badger (because although it chews the cud, it does not have cloven hooves); The hare (because although it chews the cud, it does not have cloven hooves); The swine (because although it has cloven hooves, it does not chew the cud).You may not eat their meat or even touch their dead bodies; they are forbidden foods for you."

It is clear from the above passage the Israelite were commanded not to eat pig’s meat.

Deuteronomy 14: 1-8

Since you are the people of God, never cut yourselves as the heathen do when they worship their idols[a] nor shave the front halves of your heads for funerals. 2 You belong exclusively to the Lord your God, and he has chosen you to be his own possession, more so than any other nation on the face of the earth.

“You are not to eat any animal I have declared to be ceremonially defiled. These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the goat, the deer, the gazelle, the roebuck, the wild goat, the ibex, the antelope, and the mountain sheep.

“Any animal that has cloven hooves and chews the cud may be eaten, but if the animal doesn’t have both, it may not be eaten. So you may not eat the camel, the hare, or the coney. They chew the cud but do not have cloven hooves. 8 Pigs may not be eaten because, although they have cloven hooves, they don’t chew the cud. You may not even touch the dead bodies of such animals."

In the above passage God had made it clear to the Israelite they should eat animals that have completely split hooves and chew the cud. However, if an animal doesn’t have both it should not be eaten, that is, if it has one but lacks the other. “And you may not eat the pig. It has split hooves but does not chew the cud, so it is ceremonially unclean

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The Old and New Testament

We are living in the New Testament, no longer bound by the Old Testament. Jesus is the New Testament as he came to fulfill the Old Testament. We no longer need to sacrifice spotless lamb in order for our sins to be wiped out. Jesus is the permanent sacrifice, our High Priest. We no longer need a human high priest. Then, is the Old Testament useless?

Specifically, the laws were given to the Israelite. This was in order to show them how to live a holy life since God is holy and to show them by breaking the law they have in fact sinned. It is through the law we learn we are not perfect. It is through the law we learn we are sinful. As such we try to follow the laws so we don’t miss a step and find ourselves having sinned without our knowledge.

If you look closely at the laws the Israelite were given it is evident, especially The 10 Commandments, it is impossible to obey fully all the commandments without breaking one. We will break one or several of them since we are humans. But, why did God give the Israelite various laws including the 10 commandments? To show them they have always been breaking the law without their knowing. Once they were given they knew they had been breaking God’s laws unknowingly. Also, God wanted to separate them as a holy nation from others. This God did in order to pave way for the coming of Jesus. Lastly, to reveal Himself to the Israelite and through the Israelite the other nations would witness there is a Living and powerful God who exists; not gods.

In Romans 7:6 it states, “But now we have been released from the law, for we died to it and are no longer captive to its power. Now we can serve God, not in the old way of obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way of living in the Spirit.” It is through the law we learn we are sinful by nature. Also, we learn due to our sinful nature as sin works through us we find it hard to follow or obey God’s laws to the letter. God knew it would be very hard for man to obey His laws without breaking one or several of them as long as he is alive. Reading the history of Israelite proves it is hard to follow God’s laws. Now, we no longer live under the law as we are led by the Spirit of God as a result of Jesus dying on the cross as a sign of sacrifice to reconcile us to God, and to make it possible to follow God. This is why Jesus said it will come a time when people will worship God in spirit and truth.

This is brought out clearly by Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA) staff who state: “The dietary laws for Israel recorded in Leviticus, chapter 11, which include, for example, a prohibition against eating pork, were given for specific religious and, perhaps, health reasons.”

It is further stated in their article titled, ‘Does God Require Us to Follow The Old Testament Laws About Not Eating Pork and Other Kinds of Meat Today’ “The New Testament, however, makes it clear that observations of these Old Testament food laws for religious reasons is no longer required in the New Testament era. Jesus himself declared that all foods were “clean.” (Mark 7:17-23).”

In Colossians 3:9-11, Apostle Paul said, “Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all."

If we have to follow every letter of the laws of the Old Testament, then we need not choose some over others. This includes circumcision. Paul said in Galatians 5:6 “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.” In the Kingdom of God it doesn’t matter whether you’re circumcised or not, a Jew or not. The most important thing is the condition of your heart. The laws were not created for us, the Gentiles, but for the Jews. Now, we are led by the Spirit of God not by laws.

It doesn’t mean the Old Testament is useless. There is a lot to learn from it. It is specifically on laws which were exclusively meant for Israelite. In effect it can be concluded, “For we are the true circumcision, who worship God in spirit, and glory in Christ Jesus, and put no confidence in the flesh.” (Philippians 3:3)

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Should We Then Eat Pork?

Are we allowed to eat pork as Christians? Yes and No. What do I mean? In Genesis 9 it says, “Then God blessed Noah and his sons and told them, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth. All the animals of the earth, all the birds of the sky, all the small animals that scurry along the ground, and all the fish in the sea will look on you with fear and terror. I have placed them in your power. I have given them to you for food, just as I had given you grain and vegetables. But you must never eat any meat that still has the lifeblood in it.

Before the Israelite were given the laws found in Leviticus, any kind of meat was acceptable to be eaten. God as we have seen gave them the laws for specific reasons. Now, since we are not under the law, there is no obligation we shouldn’t eat this or that. There are only two instances eating of meat is a sin.


a) If you don’t feel good about eating a certain kind of meat and you go ahead and eat it, then you have sinned. If your conscience convicts you it is not right to eat a particular meat or meats in general, don’t eat that meat or meat. If you feel peace when it comes to eating a certain meat or meats in general, you haven’t sinned when you eat meat. If after eating meat you feel guilty then you have sinned.

Blessed are those who don’t feel guilty of doing something they have decided is right. But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions if you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning.”

b)Don’t be a stumbling block to your fellow believer. Don’t go ahead and eat pork in front of him because you will act as a stumbling block to him which may affect his salvation. If a person believes it is not good to eat meat he is justified. If you believe eating meat is not bad, also you’re justified. However, try your level best not to be a stumbling block to your fellow believer as indicted in the below verses:

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Accept other believers who are weak in faith, and don’t argue with them about what they think is right or wrong. For instance, one person believes it’s alright to eat anything. But another believer with a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who don’t. And those who don’t eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them.

Don’t tear apart the work of God over what you eat. Remember, all foods are acceptable, but it is wrong to eat something if it makes another person stumble. It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else if it might cause another believer to stumble.”

It is evident from the above scriptures and the verses that will follow afterwards it is not wrong to eat any kind of meat. It depends on how you feel on a particular kind of meat or meat in general. Everything that was created was created for our own good. We shouldn’t restrain ourselves or follow teachings that one should not eat this or that meat because it is dirty or an abomination to God. If your conscience convicts you it’s a sin to eat meats in general or a particular meat, don’t go ahead and it. You will not be condemned whether you eat meat or not. It depends on how you feel about eating a particular meat or meats in general.

The most important thing to remember is to give thanks before you eat and to ask God to bless it. When you give thanks to God for the meal and pray to God to bless it then the meal is sanctified. Go ahead and eat it. “Since everything God created is good, we should not reject any of it but receive it with thanks. For we know it is made acceptable by the Word of God and prayer.” Even if the meat you want to cook and eat was offered to an idol, once you thank God for the meat and ask Him to purify the meat, then it is sanctified. It will not have any bad effect on you. If your conscience convicts you it is a sin to eat meat offered to idols, then don’t eat it.

Remember: “It’s not what goes into your mouth that defiles you, you’re defiled by the words that come out of your mouth.”

For, after all, the important thing for us as Christians is not what we eat or drink but stirring up goodness and peace and joy from the Holy Spirit. (Romans 4:17)

Because of his kindness, you have been saved through trusting Christ. And even trusting is not of yourselves;it too is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good we have done, so none of us can take any credit for it. It is God himself who has made us what we are and given us new lives from Christ Jesus; and long ages ago he planned that we should spend these lives in helping others. (Ephesians 2:8-10)


Further Readings

Romans 14:1-3

Give a warm welcome to any brother who wants to join you, even though his faith is weak. Don’t criticize him for having different ideas from yours about what is right and wrong.[a]2 For instance, don’t argue with him about whether or not to eat meat that has been offered to idols. You may believe there is no harm in this, but the faith of others is weaker; they think it is wrong and will go without any meat at all and eat vegetables rather than eat that kind of meat. 3 Those who think it is all right to eat such meat must not look down on those who won’t. And if you are one of those who won’t, don’t find fault with those who do. For God has accepted them to be his children.

10-11

You have no right to criticize your brother or look down on him. Remember, each of us will stand personally before the Judgment Seat of God. 11 For it is written, “As I live,” says the Lord, “every knee shall bow to me and every tongue confess to God.”

14-17

As for myself, I am perfectly sure on the authority of the Lord Jesus that there is nothing really wrong with eating meat that has been offered to idols. But if someone believes it is wrong, then he shouldn’t do it because for him it is wrong. 15 And if your brother is bothered by what you eat, you are not acting in love if you go ahead and eat it. Don’t let your eating ruin someone for whom Christ died. 16 Don’t do anything that will cause criticism against yourself even though you know that what you do is right.

17 For, after all, the important thing for us as Christians is not what we eat or drink but stirring up goodness and peace and joy from the Holy Spirit.

15-19

And if your brother is bothered by what you eat, you are not acting in love if you go ahead and eat it. Don’t let your eating ruin someone for whom Christ died. 16 Don’t do anything that will cause criticism against yourself even though you know that what you do is right.

17 For, after all, the important thing for us as Christians is not what we eat or drink but stirring up goodness and peace and joy from the Holy Spirit. 18 If you let Christ be Lord in these affairs, God will be glad; and so will others. 19 In this way aim for harmony in the church, and try to build each other up.

20-23

20 Don’t undo the work of God for a chunk of meat. Remember, there is nothing wrong with the meat, but it is wrong to eat it if it makes another stumble. 21 The right thing to do is to quit eating meat or drinking wine or doing anything else that offends your brother or makes him sin. 22 You may know that there is nothing wrong with what you do, even from God’s point of view, but keep it to yourself; don’t flaunt your faith in front of others who might be hurt by it. In this situation, happy is the man who does not sin by doing what he knows is right. 23 But anyone who believes that something he wants to do is wrong shouldn’t do it. He sins if he does, for he thinks it is wrong, and so for him it is wrong. Anything that is done apart from what he feels is right is sin.



1 Corinthians 8:13

So if eating meat offered to idols is going to make my brother sin, I’ll not eat any of it as long as I live because I don’t want to do this to him.

1 Timothy 4:1-4

But the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some in the church will turn away from Christ and become eager followers of teachers with devil-inspired ideas. 2 These teachers will tell lies with straight faces and do it so often that their consciences won’t even bother them.

3 They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat meat, even though God gave these things to well-taught Christians to enjoy and be thankful for. 4 For everything God made is good, and we may eat it gladly if we are thankful for it...

Colossians 2:16-18:20-23

So don’t let anyone criticize you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating Jewish holidays and feasts or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. 17 For these were only temporary rules that ended when Christ came. They were only shadows of the real thing—of Christ himself. 18 Don’t let anyone declare you lost when you refuse to worship angels, as they say you must. They have seen a vision, they say, and know you should. These proud men (though they claim to be so humble) have a very clever imagination.

20 Since you died, as it were, with Christ and this has set you free from following the world’s ideas of how to be saved—by doing good and obeying various rules[a]—why do you keep right on following them anyway, still bound by such rules as 21 not eating, tasting, or even touching certain foods? 22 Such rules are mere human teachings, for food was made to be eaten and used up. 23 These rules may seem good, for rules of this kind require strong devotion and are humiliating and hard on the body, but they have no effect when it comes to conquering a person’s evil thoughts and desires. They only make him proud.

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    • AF Mind profile image

      AF Mind 5 months ago

      charlie, "AFM- the depth of your deception is amazing. As I said before you clearly do not understand scripture. You are following the false doctrines of apostate men. You are trying to make scripture say something it does not. Quoting a bible instead of scripture does not make you belief scriptural."

      The fact that you continuously open up with, "Oh you're just wrong and you don't have the truth" shows that you just keep coming with preconcieved notions. Also, I am qupting scripture.

      "In regard to your Luke 16 -17 reference you are correct it does say that but what you do not understand because you are not of one Spirit with God and His Son, but of another spirit, is that that part of the verse was also fulfilled by Jesus. He fulfilled it all none of it failed, it was COMPLETELY FULFULLED."

      Yes, meaning it became full. He didn't say the covenant was fulfiled. He said the law was fulfilled. As Jeremiah 31 31-33 says, their covenan t was not abolished. But a new covenant was set in place that would have the law written on their hearts.

      "As far as Jesus (I use His English Name because I speak English) quoting the OT in the verse you mention, He did so because He was under the law at that time, the NT did not begin until AFTER His Resurrection. If you truly understood scripture you would know that."

      Mt 19:17 He was talking to a jew, they were both under the OT at that time, the NT had not yet begun

      Lk 24:27-45 Look at what vs 45-47 actually says at this time the NT was still not yet fully operational, as He told them to wait for the Holy Spirit to come, which was the point of full transfer to the NT, the complete and total end of the law.

      I did know that. And I also know that according to Jeremiah 31 31-33, the new covena t means the laws are in their hearts. Also, why limit yourself because of your language? His real name is for all people to use.

      "Now you bring in your erroneous translation of the Greek again. And try to twist my words to meet your desired meaning, a typical trick of false teachers. Not acceptable."

      You said it says complete. I said it says complete. What's the problem?

      "All the rest of your drivel has no bearing whatsoever to the subject at hand, at the times you mention He was under the law and had to follow it. You do not understand that your bible and virtual all bibles which are not scripture, are translations of scripture by men like you that contain their beliefs and expect them to be considered scripture, they are not."

      So you're not actually going to disect and debunk my "drivel"?

      "Your false interpretation and inability to understand scripture along with your inapplicable examples show you do not know who Jesus is and have not real understanding of scripture or the age we live in."

      I'm not seeing any verses here.

      "Check these Ro 8:2-8, Gal 3:13-14,"

      Let's do that.

      "For the law of the Spirit of life has set you[a] free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death."

      Galatians 3 13-14 also says the "curse of the law". It does not say the law, or that the law is a curse. It says the "curse of the law".

      Alright, law of sin and death and curse of the law. This term was not used to describe the entirety of the law in the Old Testament. Fortunately I have a seperate tab open for this.

      2 Corinthians 3 6

      "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."

      The Law of Moses and the Gospel are different, and the Gospel brings life while the Law kills. Let's suppose that is what he is saying by using Old Testament reference. If the law kills, we need proof of that. We need evidence that the law kills. DEUTERONOMY 29 1

      "These are the words of the covenant, which Elohim commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb."

      We see from verse 1 that this is not Moses's words, but words that he received directly from dictation from Elohim. Everything he speaks carries on into the next chapter. DEUTERONOMY 30 15.

      "See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;"

      But Paul supposedly said the Law kills, but here we see that it gives life and death. Is Paul contradicting himself? No. They are partially true. DEUTERONOMY 30 19.

      "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:"

      So the choice is life (good) or death (evil). Reminder; this is the law that is being written on the hearts of the faithful and the obedient men who chose to believe in the Messiah and be reconciled to the Creator. So what is it from the law that brings death as Paul says? Simple. According to these verses obeying the law brings life. But disobeying it brings death. Disobeying the law is a longer term for sin. We read that in 1 John 3 4. Sinning brings death. Transgressing his law brings death. Paul reminds us of this in Galatians 3 10.

      Rom 10:1-4 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

      Gal 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

      Let's get it in context.

      "For" in verse 19 and 20 indicate that the words to follow were the reasons why Yahushua is not a minister of sin. We are not to rebuild the things we destroyed (transgression of the law) and we died to the law so that we could "live to Elohim." It is no longer we who live but it is "Messiah that liveth in" us.

      Galatians 2:19-20 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto Elohim. 20 I am crucified with Messiah: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Messiah liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of Elohim, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

      This being the case:

      1 John 2:4-6 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of Elohim perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

      If "Messiah liveth/abideth in us" then we will walk as He walked. How did He walk? He kept the Torah to absolute perfection. Because He kept the Torah to absolute perfection, He is the righteous one. His righteousness is what saves us when it is no longer we who live but Messiah who lives in us. Yahushua is not an minister of sin, He is a minister of deliverance from sin by saving us from death and living out the righteous commandments IN US that He kept while on the earth. Our obedience to the Torah/law of Yahweh is the evidence that Yahushua lives in us.

      This is not to say that Yahushua demands that we instantly walk in perfection. He only requires that we turn away from sin, truly (from the heart) seeking to keep Yahweh's commandments as we learn them at a pace that HE decides, not man. Ultimately our righteousness comes from Yahushua the Messiah who gave His life for us.

      21 I do not frustrate the grace of Elohim: for if righteousness come by the law, then Messiah is dead in vain.

      If our righteousness (and thus, our salvation) were to come from Torah keeping, we could have been declared righteous without Messiah and He died for nothing. The "good news of the circumcision" taught that believers in Yahushua are not saved until they learn and obey the Torah, then get circumcised. But the true "good news" is that we are all saved the moment we choose to repent and have faith in Yahushua. And what good news that is! Our hearts are purified by faith the moment we repent and believe. It is just as Kepha/Peter said in Acts 2:38.

      charlie, "There are many more scripture that prove you wrong."

      Show them, then.

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      charlie 5 months ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans

      AFM- the depth of your deception is amazing. As I said before you clearly do not understand scripture. You are following the false doctrines of apostate men. You are trying to make scripture say something it does not. Quoting a bible instead of scripture does not make you belief scriptural.

      In regard to your Luke 16 -17 reference you are correct it does say that but what you do not understand because you are not of one Spirit with God and His Son, but of another spirit, is that that part of the verse was also fulfilled by Jesus. He fulfilled it all none of it failed, it was COMPLETELY FULFULLED.

      As far as Jesus (I use His English Name because I speak English) quoting the OT in the verse you mention, He did so because He was under the law at that time, the NT did not begin until AFTER His Resurrection. If you truly understood scripture you would know that.

      Mt 19:17 He was talking to a jew, they were both under the OT at that time, the NT had not yet begun

      Lk 24:27-45 Look at what vs 45-47 actually says at this time the NT was still not yet fully operational, as He told them to wait for the Holy Spirit to come, which was the point of full transfer to the NT, the complete and total end of the law.

      Luke 24:46-49 46 Then He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And you are witnesses of these things. 49 Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high."

      Now you bring in your erroneous translation of the Greek again. And try to twist my words to meet your desired meaning, a typical trick of false teachers. Not acceptable.

      All the rest of your drivel has no bearing whatsoever to the subject at hand, at the times you mention He was under the law and had to follow it. You do not understand that your bible and virtual all bibles which are not scripture, are translations of scripture by men like you that contain their beliefs and expect them to be considered scripture, they are not.

      Your false interpretation and inability to understand scripture along with your inapplicable examples show you do not know who Jesus is and have not real understanding of scripture or the age we live in.

      By looking at your comments and responses it is clear to see that you also have no desire for truth and only wish to push your false doctrines.

      Check these Ro 8:2-8, Gal 3:13-14,

      Rom 10:1-4 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

      This scripture seems to say you are not a believer in Christ, like I said you do not know who Jesus really is, He is the Lord of this age.

      Gal 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."

      There are many more scripture that prove you wrong.

      If you ever desire to look honestly at scripture I will be glad to converse with you but otherwise I have no more to say to you

    • AF Mind profile image

      AF Mind 5 months ago

      charlie,

      "When a contract has been fulfilled it no longer is in effect as it has accomplished its work. In fact even when God gave the law to Israel and it was given only to them, HE SAID it was temporary until the man Yahushua would fulfill it. And Yahushua, the Lord of this the final age of man spoke about it"

      "Luke 16:16-17 "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it."

      Let's read the next verse.

      “And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail” Luke 16:17.

      Yahushua said it would be easier for them to perish or be destroyed than even for one tiny part of the Almighty’s law to pass away or to perish.

      Just before Luke 16:16, Yahushua quotes the Tenth Commandment and corrects the Pharisees for their covetousness.

      After Luke 16:16 Yahushua quotes the Seventh Commandment and gives detailed instruction about not committing adultery.

      On another occasion mentioned in Matthew 19:17 Yahushua told a young man, seeking the way to eternal life, “If you will enter into life, keep the commandments.”

      So what can we learn from Luke 16:16? What is the message Mashiach is delivering? What did Yahushua mean by the statement, “The law and the prophets were until John”?

      When Yahushua spoke of the “law and the prophets”, He was referring to the Old Testament. The first five books of the Bible, written by Moses, are known as the law; the books of Joshua through Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the 12 minor prophets comprise the “prophets.” The third major section of the Old Testament was known as the “writings” or “psalms.” Notice Luke 24:27-45.

      Yahushua was simply stating a fact, that the Old Testament scriptures alone were preached until the coming of John the Baptist. They were the only writings and information that they had. The New Testament had not been written yet.

      When John came on the scene, he was the forerunner of Yahushua Mashiach. That is all this verse was saying.

      Am I wrong? Let's see according to your own words.

      NT:4137 plhro/w - pleroo play-ro'-o; from NT:4134; to make replete , i.e. literally to cram a net, level up a hollow, or figuratively to furnish or imbue, diffuse, influence, satisfy, execute an office, finish a period or task, verify or coincide with a prediction, etc.:

      replete means to be filled or well-supplied with something . And as we see, most of these definitions in no way imply getting rid of something.

      KJV - accomplish, after, be complete, end, expire, fill up, fulfil, be, make full come, fully preach, perfect, supply.

      So it appears that you are wrong. Just like I said earlier, the word playroo means to complete or fill up. I'm not sure why you're saying i am wrong because it says complete when by beginning argument was in agreement with that. Yet he doesn't say he came to complete the cpntract. He said to complete the law, which was part of the contract. When something is complete, it means it is full. He brought the full understanding of scripture.

      Here's an example. We read in Matthew 12 1-8 how Mashiach and his disciples were picking food on the Sabbath day because they were hungry some theorize that corn is mistranslated, but wheat as ancient customs say that people would rub wheat in their hands to heat it and eat it after he had just got done preaching in the previous chapter. This would count as a work because they are technically picking crops. But he gives us a clearer understanding of the Sabbath. The Pharisees saw this and tried to call them out on it. "Hey aren't you guys breaking the Sabbath?" They were quick to point this out because they were trying to catch them at anything they could.

      How does he respond? He referenced how when David was hungry, he went into the Temple and ate the showbread? This was unlawful. You read that in 1 Samuel 21 1-6. David had fled from This was consecrated bread meant for the Levites priests, but out of generosity to David he allowed him to eat it. David was starving at this time because this was when he fled from Saul due to Saul trying to kill him out of paranoia. So common sense and loving thy neighbor as thyself trumps that, so it was good for him t give him the bread. And especially if there is no other food around, you have the right to eat. Sometimes human life and loving thy neighbor as thyself must come first.

      Now we go to verse 5 and it says that though the priests profane the Sabbath in the temple, they are blameless. It says you shall not do any work on the Sabbath day, but the job of the priests is to work on the Sabbath day. They had to do burnt offerings, sacrifices, and sin offerings. This is an exception. Sometimes you have to work on the Sabbath day depending on the circumstances. The law said no work on the seventh day and this is the law for everyone, but we see that there are exceptions to that. This is further expounded upon in verses 6-7, which explains how in these circumstances the Most High will have mercy depending on the circumstance.

      He brought the full understanding of the law. Not doing away with it. Doing away with it equals abolishing it because either conclusion leads to them not following it anymore. It's the same thing. By your logic he said I'm not gonna do away with it, but i will follow it so you don't have to. That makes no sense.

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      charlie 5 months ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans

      afm- this article is faithful to scripture, you are not.

      sorry I have read your false beliefs and have no desire to discuss this with you as you clearly do not believe or understand scripture.

      When a contract has been fulfilled it no longer is in effect as it has accomplished its work. In fact even when God gave the law to Israel and it was given only to them, HE SAID it was temporary until the man Jesus would fulfill it.

      And Jesus, the Lord of this the final age of man spoke about it

      Luke 16:16-17 "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.

      sorry you also are wrong on the use of the Greek word

      NT:4137 plhro/w - pleroo (play-ro'-o); from NT:4134; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.:

      KJV - accomplish, after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.

      even the kjv usage which cannot be trusted says complete

      You need to stop trying to mislead gullible people and learn scripture before you try teaching

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      AF Mind 5 months ago

      charlie, "he FULFILLED it." But if that means it is no longer to be followed, what's the point? He makes it clear that he came not to abolish it, so that makes a clear difference between getting rid of it and "fulfilling it". Matthew 5 17 says he fulfilled the law. Fulfill it, or make it known?

      "Playroo", a Greek word being incorrectly translated as fulfilled in Matthew 5 17. The word means to fill make full/complete. That is what Mashiach did. He made the law known fully against the Pharisees who enforced their own traditions

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      charlie 5 months ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans

      Good article and correct according to scripture.. Especially good to see you understand the old testament was finished, completed and is no longer in effect as Jesus completely FULFILLED IT. When any contract has been completely fulfilled it no longer is in effect. Yes we live under the Lord Jesus in this age and cannot approach God unless we go through Him, because all authority has been given to Him until the end of this age when He returns it to God once again making God all in all and fulfilling that God was first and is last-- for eternity

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      Kiss andTales 8 months ago

      Thank you !

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      AF Mind 8 months ago

      Well, I guess we can leave it there then. I thank you for being a respectful debater as most people i talk with on the subject are quite rude. Please, feel free to comment on any article of mine if you want to debate again. Take care.

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      Kiss andTales 8 months ago

      Based on that Jesus was among his followers as a teacher it certainly was a new situation in action. He showed love by his conduct to those that loved and hated him.

      Yes you are correct in that Jehovah had already said to love him and neighbors.

      Jesus. Himself say so here !

      1Jo 2:7 Beloved ones, I am writing you, not a new commandment, but an old commandment that you have had from the beginning. This old commandment is the word that you heard.

      It was very nice sharing bible truth and I appreciate your zeal for the word of God and Jesus.

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      AF Mind 8 months ago

      Very well. All is forgiven.

      And that is what I am doing. Showing the truth against the traditions of Christianity held by many today.

      Is John 13 34 really a new commandment? Is it new to love one another as yourself?

      John 13:34

      [34]A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

      In this verse we see him preaching a message of loving ones neighbor.

      Matthew 22:37-39

      [37]Yahusha said unto him, Thou shalt love Yah thy Elohim with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

      [38]This is the first and great commandment.

      [39]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

      Is this something new? No. He is quoting scripture. In fact this is a law from the Old Testament. Leviticus 19:18

      [18]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am Elohim.

      So this is not new as in a brand new commandment never being taught before. It is new to them because obviously these Pharisees were not teaching this. They were not teaching Torah. They picked and choose parts they wanted to follow, rather than just keep it all.

      Correct. The Jews who did not conform to his teachings as the Messiah were mainly the Pharisee and Sadducees and priests. But their actions do not mean that the entire race of Jews are no longer his people.

      .

      “The point is they did not fully keep the Mosaic laws themselves twisting them and adding rules like they labeled as work 39 different activities, such as reaping or hunting. These categories gave rise to endless questions. If a man killed a flea on the Sabbath, was he hunting? If he plucked a handful of grain to eat as he walked along, was he reaping?”

      Exactly. They were adding laws and not keeping the law itself. They also picked which ones they wanted to follow.

      All of that about the temple and nation being destroyed does not do anything to say that they were not his people. In fact, the same thing happened with Babylon. Temple was destroyed, and their city was ruined and taken over. But weren’t they still his people? You need to understand that the word Jew does not apply to every descendant of Jacob. It means three things depending on the context: 1. Someone who comes from the tribe of Judah. 2. While the kingdom was split, the Southern Kingdom (the tribes who chose to be under Judah while the others rebelled) were called Jews as they were the Kingdom of Judah. 3. Gentile converts to Judaism.

      “Traditions of what to eat and not to eat seems to consume them as a dominant law. Jesus has done his part as to say Mr 7:8 You let go of the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men.”

      It was a dominant law in the Torah, not their own law. Yes, they preached this. But that doesn’t mean that they were wrong to do so. They were just hypocritical. This was not a tradition of man. It was a Torah based law.

      “When the Believing Jews fleed to the mountains .where was there temple of worship ? Where was the priest who would offer up sin attonments in their behalf?”

      You could argue that they had some of these things in the 7 churches, but even if they did not what does it matter? The sacrificial system was done away with. That’s it. And while the 7 churches could act as their temple, the atonement sacrifice was done away with when he died for them.

      “All was nailed to the stake of Jesus.”

      Was it? Galatians 3 13 says the curse of the law was nailed to the cross. What is the curse?

      GALATIANS 3 10

      ..........."For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is everyone that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them."

      This verse is a precept to Deuteronomy 27 26. This does say, "Cursed is everyone who tries to do the things written in the law". Trying to obey it is not a curse. It says those who do not obey it are cursed. This in no way means the law is done away with. There is no proof so far. That would be contradictory as earlier Paul said the law is written on the believer's heart. And since this is a precept to Jeremiah 31 31-33, an Old Testament verse where the law was still being followed. So, the only conclusion based on scripture alone is that this is the Torah being written on their hearts. Saying it is anything else is just adding or not using proper precepts. Let's go to Romans 2 13.

      ROMANS 2 13-15

      ..........."(For not the hearers of the law are just before Elohim, but the doers of the law shall be justified."

      So those who follow the law are justified before him. There is a type of righteousness that comes from obeying the law.

      2 CORINTHIANS 3 1-18

      First, we must ask. What is Paul referring to when he uses the words, letter, ink, spirit of the living Elohim (Elohim), hearts, tablets of stone, and hearts of living flesh. These are extremely key terms that are used.

      VERSES 1-3

      ..........."Do we begin again to commend ourselves? Or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?"

      ..........."Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:"

      ..........."Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of the Messiah ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living Elohim; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart."

      We are going to examine these terms. Paul is obviously using metaphor. We can't say he is literally calling men letters (epistles). Something is being written.

      2 CORINTHIANS 3 VERSE 7-8

      ..........."But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:"

      ..........."How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?"

      Here is the answer to what is being written. It is a content that came forth from the mouth of the Creator through Moses chiseled on stone and written on paper, and it was glorious. So as glorious as that was, it is more glorious when these laws are being written on the hearts of men who will obey. Many quote Philippians 4 13 and say they can do all things through the Messiah, but the law is unable to be followed by them. Where is their faith if you don't think the law can be followed without difficulty through the Messiah, but they say they can do all things through him? And like earlier, no verse has said the law is done away with.

      JAMES 2 14-26

      ..........."What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him?"

      ..........."If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,"

      ..........."And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?"

      ..........."Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

      ..........."Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."

      ..........."Thou believest that there is one Elohim; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

      ..........."But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"

      ..........."Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?"

      ..........."Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?"

      ..........."And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed Elohim, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of Elohim."

      ..........."Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only."

      ..........."Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?"

      ..........."For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."

      Meaning what good does it do to have faith, but to not be a worker for the faith? Your works must re

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      Kiss andTales 8 months ago

      With all do respect I must apologize if I have offended you .not my purpose at all .But the truth may appear that way when you are bringing out some important points.

      Again I hope that you will understand me more clear and that its more important to exercise faith on truth not tradition.

      One of these Jesus called “a new commandment.” Jesus taught all his followers to love one another just as he had loved them. (John 13:34, 35) Yes, self-sacrificing love was to be the hallmark of all those who live by “the law of the Christ.

      The Jews who did not conform to Jesus teachings as the Messiah also known as pharisee and sadducees and priest help kill Jesus.

      There was a judgment by the Heavenly Father for this unlawful act done to his son.

      The point is they did not fully keep the Mosaic laws themselfs twisting them and adding rules like

      they labeled as work 39 different activities, such as reaping or hunting. These categories gave rise to endless questions. If a man killed a flea on the Sabbath, was he hunting? If he plucked a handful of grain to eat as he walked along, was he reaping?

      True there are believing Jews , who Jesus went to first to preach to as written.

      Jesus himself said that at that time he was only preaching to the lost sheep of Isreal.

      They had already as a nation been judge as lost.

      Mt 23:37“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it.

      Mt 23:38 Look! Your house is abandoned to you.

      1Ki 9:7, 8 I will cut Israel off from the surface of the land that I have given to them, and the house that I have sanctified for my name I will cast out of my sight, and Israel will become an object of scorn and a cause for ridicule among all the peoples.8 And this house will become heaps of ruins. Everyone passing by it will stare in amazement and will whistle and say, ‘Why did Jehovah do that to this land and this house?’

      Ac 13:46 Then Paul and Barʹna·bas boldly said to them: “It was necessary for the word of God to be spoken first to you. Since you are rejecting it and do not judge yourselves worthy of everlasting life, look! we turn to the nations.

      True a substitute of people now are called spiritual Isreal are no longer one nation of fleshly Jews as only Gods people

      Cornelius was not a fleshy Jew.

      But they recieved Jehovah's spirit to speak in different tongues to the nations about the Good News of Jesus Government.

      True many may read the Torah they read it too as Sadducees and Pharisee and Priest but they were evil men.

      , they did not benifit from its purpose and many are not still listening to Jehovah's anointed in the way they did years ago. Many read but missed it points

      Traditions of what to eat and not to eat seems to consume them as a dominant law .

      Jesus has done his part as to say

      Mr 7:8 You let go of the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men.

      The Jews house is abandon to them as a relationship with Jehovah no longer is it the way it use to be.

      There is no temple in Jerusalem the way it was before 70 CE.

      The Romans devastated the land because Jehovah allowed them to after killing his son Jesus.

      The Christain Jews listened and now make up new nations with Gentiles and tongues world wide.

      When the Believing Jews fleed to the mountains .where was there temple of worship ? Where was the priest who would offer up sin attonments in their behalf.

      All was nailed to the stake of Jesus.

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      AF Mind 8 months ago

      I don't think you're in a position to say I am picking and choosing since you don't even know what I follow. All you know is that I keep kosher. What I follow is the Torah. Everything aside from the done away law of sacrifice and death penalties, I keep. I don't sift through parts I do not like, because I love it all. I ask that you keep from such false accusations or this conversation will be cut short.

      You're implying that the Jews or Gentiles have different laws. It was the same then and now. He didn't pressure them to not eat unclean meats because as the converts to Judaism in Acts (Gentiles) they were already following the dietary law. But he doesn't tell them that. And eating in public with a gentile was not a Mosaic law. It was a custom being enforced by the Pharisees, their own customs. If you think this was a part of the mosaic law, show me the verse in the old testament.

      Most of what you said in the 2nd comment is true. Some Jews did lose favor with the almighty, and they did kill him. But his sacrifice does not do away with the law. He said so himself he came not to destroy, but to fulfill.

      Col 2:14 and erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.

      There is no longer a temple that would represent sins with animal sacrifices."

      Keyword, "handwritten". What does Jeremiah 31 31-33 say? In the new covenant the law would be written on their hearts.

      "The Jews destroyed their relationship with the Heavenly Father by killing Jesus."

      Wrong. It was only the Jews who didn't believe in him that lost their relationship with him. They are still his people.

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      Kiss andTales 8 months ago

      Based on this scripture christains are not under Mosaic laws

      The fact that there was no longer a temple that represented Jehovah no animal sacrefices was enforced but discontinued no longer a priest in a temple to present these gifts.

      Most Jews did not accept the good news about Jesus, and they did not listen when Jesus told them about a disaster that would happen to Jerusalem. He had warned his disciples: “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her.” (Luke 21:20, 21) Exactly as Jesus had foretold, Jerusalem was destroyed. The Jews rebelled against the Romans, and in the year 66, Roman armies surrounded Jerusalem and were just about to destroy it. But the armies suddenly left, and that gave Jesus’ followers an opportunity to leave Jerusalem and Judea. Many fled across the Jordan River and went up into the mountains. In the year 70, the Roman armies came back and destroyed Jerusalem. What happened to the Christians? They survived because they listened to Jesus’ warning

      Why this happened

      Mt 27:51

      And look! the curtain of the sanctuary was torn in two,from top to bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split.

      They lost Gods favor as his people

      The Jews had went to far killing Jesus God's Son.

      They would no longer would be protected or blessed by him.

      There was no temple to exercise animal sacrefices of clean and unclean.

      But there were congregations that contained believing Jews and Gentiles Jesus governed that formed new congregations under him.

      Corinthians , Galations ,Ephesians ,

      Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, These are the congregations that contained those that listened and believed in the Good News Jesus said preach about.

      There is no ceremonies of animal sacrefices listed as before Jesus death.

      The animals that was unclean is no longer a concern or value of interest because they were nailed to torture stake.

      Says

      Col 2:14 and erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.

      There is no longer a temple that would represent sins with animal sacrefices.

      The Jews destroyed their relationship with the Heavenly Father by killing Jesus.

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      Kiss andTales 8 months ago

      Ypu are picking and chosing what you want to do.

      If you notice the congregation of Jesus follwers was not in a temple where . And did Peter act bias to Gentiles as to eat with them in public .he was cpunseled. Because they no longer was binding to Mosaic laws.

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      AF Mind 8 months ago

      No it wasn't. That's the sacrificial system, which was done away with at his sacrifice. He did away with that, nothing more.

      You say I am putting myself under the law. GALATIANS 5 18

      ..........."But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law."

      Many believe that this implies that the law is done away with. But this phrase "not under the law" is referenced throughout scripture. Let's examine this. The first passage to mention this is Romans 2 12.

      ROMANS 2 12

      ..........."For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;"

      Here, Paul is saying that without law, or under law, you will perish because of sin. This is easy to observe. The law refers to the commandments and instructions given to Moses on the tablets and books, also known as scriptures. Why would he say that whether you are with or without law you will perish for sinning? Here is why. What does 1 John 3 4 tell us sin is? Transgression of the law. If sin is transgression of the law, how can someone sin being without the law, or under the law? The answer is that the words of the law are still relevant. Under the law means those who are taught under the scriptures. Without law means those who had no access to the scriptures. There are the physical scriptures (tablets and books), and there is the spoken word written on the hearts of believers. The earlier examination of 2 Corinthians 3 is a good example. It explains that Elohim is writing his word on the hearts of men, not on paper and tablets. No mention of the law being done away with.

      Paul is saying that regardless of if you are without the law, or receiving it by spirit, or receiving it by the book, and you sin, you will perish. We must not ignore the following passage after Romans 2 12.

      ROMANS 12 3

      ..........."(For not the hearers of the law are just before Yah, but the doers of the law shall be justified."

      The doers of the law are justified. Obedience to the law is essential whether you are with or without it. Here is another occurrence of the phrase.

      ROMANS 3 19-21 and 27

      ..........."Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before Yah."

      ..........."Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."

      ..........."But now the righteousness of Yah without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;"

      ..........."Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith."

      ..........."Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

      We can conclude that a man is justified by his faith and not the deeds of the law.

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      Kiss andTales 8 months ago

      That requirement was based on the Messiah had not arrived.

      That was his assignment. Jesus body was the last sacrefice. Used to pay sins with. That was why humans meeded to know what animals were suitable to give a s gift offering.

      We are not under MosIc laws. We do not offer animal sacrefices. Jesus discontinued its pupose.

      You undo his value by enslaving yourself under laws that was improved from Jesus ramsom gift of all time.

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      AF Mind 8 months ago

      KissAndTales, in the Old Testament law it was a requirement for both the Israelite and the stranger in the land to obey the dietary laws. Plus if you look in Genesis they too called animals unclean. And who is to say who is a gentile? Are you a gentile? You may have some of the 12 Tribes in you for all you know as the 10 Northern Tribes were scattered for quite some time and may have spread throughout the world in the ancient times.

      You also have t8 take into account that the use of nation and tongues doesn't necessarily mean different race. Remember, 12000 from each tribe were sealed beforehand. So it can also be referring to those who lived in these nations and spoke those tongues, not that they were a different race.

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      Kiss andTales 8 months ago

      First we need to understand the Jews under the Mosaic laws was bound by contract to obey these laws.No other nation of people including Eygpt had and agreement to be Gods people. And basically the Heavenly Father had a purpose that was in the works who he would bring his Messiah through the birth line of Abraham.

      Jesus was still born under the Jewish line and was obediant to all sabbaths and feasts and temple worship.

      It was only as completing his assignment that he fulfilled the purpose of what animal sacrefices really  meant. They were small examples of what humans would need to be forgiven for sins.

      Jesus value was so high that animal sacrefice would discontinue there could never be a number value placed on him.

      He is the first creation of Angelic sons a Prince of the Heavenly Father.

      Even on earth a prince in royalty is very valuble.

      So now this Prince exchanged his life to pay for generations of humans to keep living into the future paradise.

      If you take a good look at Rev it states that all nations and tribes and tongues would benifit from Jesus value as a ransom gift for humans.

      Re 7:9A fter this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.

      Notice in Rev these people are from all nations and tribes and tongues

      Saying they owe the lamb (Jesus )for their salvation.

      The problem is all nations here are not pure Jews .as it states different tongues and nations.

      These are people that could not be under the Mosaic law but are covered under his ramsom value. Peters vision explains that the Gentiles would also become Gods people as seen in Rev..

      Peter was to preach to the Gentiles people who were not under the Mosaic law.

      So according to Revelations Jesus followers come from around the world in their own language.

      If people are gentiles they will eat pig.

      Jesus never put a law out they could not.

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      AF Mind 8 months ago

      The scriptures used to justify eating pork need to be clarified.

      Matthew 15 17

      People like to say this verse is saying that whatever food you eat, it does not defile you. But this verse is not even talking about food. Turn to verse 1 and we will read to verse 20. Notice how the Pharisees are asking the Messiah why the disciples are transgressing the tradition of the ELDERS by not washing their hands before they eat. This was not a law in the Torah. How does he answer? He asks them why they transgress the commandment of Yah by enforcing their own tradition and not enforcing a scriptural law such as honoring your mother and father? That's part of the Torah. The first ten commandments (there are actually over 600, those first ten are not the only ones, read it in the first five books).

      So what does make a man unclean? Verses 16 to 19 tells us. Evil thoughts of murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. Sin makes you unclean. But what does verse 20 say? Eating with dirty hands does NOT defile a man. This is not about food at all. This is saying that having some dirt on your hands and you eat something does not make you unclean like an unclean animal in scripture. You might get sick, but don't think your name is not written in the Book of Life just because you had a bit of dirt under your fingernail. But knowingly indulging in foods that are not good for you? That is another story, but we will go into that momentarily. If he was talking about unclean food or dirt and unclean food, verse 20 would say he dirt nor unclean food defiles a man.

      He wasn't against the Pharisees for preaching the law of eating clean meats. He was against them because they DID NOT preach the law, and they were being hypocrites who enforced their own traditions but always liked to point their finger at others. These were the same guys that Isaiah was talking about in Isaiah 29 13, talking about their love for the Most High with their mouths but their heart is not with him. They are hypocrites. That is why the Messiah came. He came to preach the truth of the Torah to his lost people as they were being led astray by these prophets.

      Mark 7 19

      Precept this with the version in Mathew and we get a clearer understanding. Now, it says that when the meat goes through the belly and into the draught, it is purged. Now what does this mean? Remember, the start of the argument was that the Pharisees were accusing the disciples of not washing their hands before they eat. So this was about dirty hands. If I grab a piece of bread with dirty hands, what gets on the bread? Dirt. If I eat it, it does not make me spiritually unclean like a sinner because only sin defiles us. Nor does it mean I become physically unclean like an unclean animal as an unclean animal cannot be made clean.

      Romans 14 1-3

      I recently got into a discussion with someone who said that when it says all things, it means you can eat all things including the unclean meats. But read verse 2 again. This is not about eating unclean meats. One person believes they can eat all things, and another eats "herbs". It is saying that if one person eats meat and another one does not, don't get onto them for it. There is no harm in someone being a vegetarian. When it says all things, it means eating all five food groups; dairy, fruit, grain, VEGETABLES AND MEAT.

      Acts 10 15

      Read it untverse 14 But Peter said, “By no means, Master, for I have never eaten anything unholy and unclean.” Why is he refusing? He was there when Mashiach supposedly said food did not defile us (which I disproved earlier in the article), so he should have had no problem in eating it. Read it until verse 28. This was symbolic on calling people unclean. It was not about eating unclean meat. Nowhere in this chapter does it say Peter did eat.

      1 Timothy 4 4

      This is possibly the most used verse in this argument. "See? It says that we are allowed to eat anything we want so long as we receive it with thanksgiving." See, you are not using the verse in context. Let's go to verse 1 in that same chapter. It says that later on, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils. It also says that they would be passing doctrines forbid you from marrying, and commanding to abstain from meats, WHICH YAH HATH CREATED TO BE RECIEVED WITH THANKSGIVING. Read it until verse 5. These meats are sanctified by the word of Yah and prayer. So he created certain meats to be received with thanksgiving. Now what is the significance of this verse?

      Here again we have a verse that is pulled out of context and not harmonized with the rest of the Bible. The previous verse, 1 Timothy 4:3, shows that the subject is persons insisting that people become vegetarians and to even "abstain from meats, which he created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."

      What meats did he create to be received by those which believe and know His Word of truth, the Bible? the ones in Leviticus 11. Verses 4-5 are self-explanatory now. Verse 4 shows that "every creature" of him "is good and nothing is to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving." What does it mean "every creature." Verse 5 shows that it is those creatures sanctified or set apart by him, which are the same creatures of Leviticus 11.

      Colossians 2 16

      Colossians 2 16 is a favorite amongst many as a last resort. But what does this verse really mean? Paul is talking to believers that are keeping the Sabbath day and the new moons. He is saying to not let anyone judge us for keeping those days. Read it from verse 8 to 17 to get a clearer understanding and see how this is actually condoning the celebration of these days as a mandate. So obviously it is not about saying both the holy days or dietary laws can be thrown away.

      1 Corinthians 10 25

      Turn to 1 Corinthians 10 25 and we are going to read until verse 28. It says that if you find meat being sold in the shambles (that's a butcher's slaughterhouse), just buy it and eat it. Don't be asking questions on it if you know without a doubt that it is a clean food. Verse 27 says something similar. "If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake." But if you go to verse 28 you will see that if anyone tells you that this food was offered to some false god, abstain from it. So these verses are not eating whatever you want. Here is what it is about; any clean food that is offered to you, don't worry about it and just eat it with no problem. But if someone says they originally offered this food up to a pagan deity, don't eat it because you worship the Most High. When you knowingly eat something that was used in a ritual towards a false god you are not serving the Most High.

      He did fulfill the law, but that doesn't mean it is done away with. Matthew 5 17 says he fulfilled the law. Fulfill it, or make it known?

      "Playroo", a Greek word being incorrectly translated as fulfilled in Matthew 5 17. The word means to fill to top, to make known fully. That is what Mashiach did. He made the law known fully against the Pharisees who enforced their own traditions. He makes a clear emphasis that he came not to destroy the law. So that implies something different than it being done away with, because destroying it or "fulfilling it so we don't have to" would lead to the exact same conclusion.

      The Old Testament laws are to be followed. The Messiah was a worthy sacrifice and in place of the death penalty. There were few changes to the law in his place. He never got rid of it.

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      Kiss andTales 8 months ago

      Col 2:16 Therefore, do not let anyone judge you about what you eat and drink or about the observance of a festival or of the new moon or of a sabbath.

      This is why ! Acts 10:15 And the voice spoke again to him, the second time: “Stop calling defiled the things God has cleansed.”

      The only thing Christains are obligated to do is written.

      Ac 15:29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!”

      Mosaic laws was replaced with Jesus Ramsom . He improved amd replaced them .covering more then one nation and many generations of people.