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The Pig: Should Christians Eat Pork?

Updated on May 20, 2017
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I never realized until a few days ago there are some denominations in Christianity who steer clear away from eating pork. Is there any wrong in eating pork? Not at all! Are they justified not to eat pork? No! But also, Yes! So, what is the problem? The problem is in regards to how you feel about this issue, that is, your sense of right and wrong or conviction towards eating it.

Before we look at scriptures, let’s first of all look at this animal called pig.

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Nature and Characteristics of Pig

There are two main reasons why some denominations don’t eat pork. The first one concerns the law the Israelite were given not to eat certain animals. The second one is the behavior of this animal.

Many people believe pigs are dirty animals. Even if you wash them they will return to dirt. It looks as if pigs enjoy being dirty than clean. Is this true? According to Ezine Articles this is not the case. In the article, ‘Pig Characteristics and Traits – Understanding Their Behavior Will Help You To Take Care of Pigs,’ it is noted by Sarah F. Brown, “One of the distinct pig characteristics is their cleanliness. Contrary to other people’s belief, pigs are generally clean animals. This is shown by their choice of toilet far away from their food and water troughs and their shelter. They will also not sleep or lay near the manure. They use mud to block their sensitive skin from the sun and insect bites.”

It will come as a shock to many that pigs are one of the top intelligent animals in the animal kingdom. In the same article, Sarah notes that pigs are smarter animals in that they can learn new behaviors and scientists believe they are smarter than primates and three-year old children. “The reason why pig farmers create strong pens and fences is that pigs can escape from even a relatively good fence. They are known to work in pairs and sometimes, smarter swine even open other pens to let other pigs escape.”

The Law in the Old Testament

We have deduced as was commonly believed pigs are not dirty animals. This is evidenced by the fact they are intelligent animals. Another area that is touched on why pigs shouldn’t be eaten is on the law God gave to the Israelite.

Leviticus 11: 1-8

It is clear from the above passage the Israelite were commanded not to eat pig’s meat.

Deuteronomy 14: 1-8

In the above passage God had made it clear to the Israelite they should eat animals that have completely split hooves and chew the cud. However, if an animal doesn’t have both it should not be eaten, that is, if it has one but lacks the other. “And you may not eat the pig. It has split hooves but does not chew the cud, so it is ceremonially unclean

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The Old and New Testament

We are living in the New Testament, no longer bound by the Old Testament. Jesus is the New Testament as he came to fulfill the Old Testament. We no longer need to sacrifice spotless lamb in order for our sins to be wiped out. Jesus is the permanent sacrifice, our High Priest. We no longer need a human high priest. Then, is the Old Testament useless?

Specifically, the laws were given to the Israelite. This was in order to show them how to live a holy life since God is holy and to show them by breaking the law they have in fact sinned. It is through the law we learn we are not perfect. It is through the law we learn we are sinful. As such we try to follow the laws so we don’t miss a step and find ourselves having sinned without our knowledge.

If you look closely at the laws the Israelite were given it is evident, especially The 10 Commandments, it is impossible to obey fully all the commandments without breaking one. We will break one or several of them since we are humans. But, why did God give the Israelite various laws including the 10 commandments? To show them they have always been breaking the law without their knowing. Once they were given they knew they had been breaking God’s laws unknowingly. Also, God wanted to separate them as a holy nation from others. This God did in order to pave way for the coming of Jesus. Lastly, to reveal Himself to the Israelite and through the Israelite the other nations would witness there is a Living and powerful God who exists; not gods.

In Romans 7:6 it states, “But now we have been released from the law, for we died to it and are no longer captive to its power. Now we can serve God, not in the old way of obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way of living in the Spirit.” It is through the law we learn we are sinful by nature. Also, we learn due to our sinful nature as sin works through us we find it hard to follow or obey God’s laws to the letter. God knew it would be very hard for man to obey His laws without breaking one or several of them as long as he is alive. Reading the history of Israelites proves it is hard to follow God’s laws. Now, we no longer live under the law as we are led by the Spirit of God as a result of Jesus dying on the cross as a sign of sacrifice to reconcile us to God, and to make it possible to follow God. This is why Jesus said it will come a time when people will worship God in spirit and truth.

Does it mean the Old Testament is useless? No. It serves to show us how man cannot please God through good works as man will more often than not break the laws of God or will sin. It serves to teach us lessons we should learn from the Israelite. It follows that there are books in the Old Testament which don’t necessarily touch on the laws God gave to Israelite which are important for us Christians. As such, we are not chained to follow the laws as they were never meant for us, the Gentiles.

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Should We Then Eat Pork?

Are we allowed to eat pork as Christians? Yes and No. What do I mean? From the following Bible verses found in the New Testament, all things were created by God. God saw all the things He had created were good. Therefore, there is no condemnation in eating whichever kind of meat a person wants to have a taste on. In Genesis 9 it says, “Then God blessed Noah and his sons and told them, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth. All the animals of the earth, all the birds of the sky, all the small animals that scurry along the ground, and all the fish in the sea will look on you with fear and terror. I have placed them in your power. I have given them to you for food, just as I had given you grain and vegetables. But you must never eat any meat that still has the lifeblood in it.

Before the Israelite were given the laws found in Leviticus, any kind of meat was acceptable to be eaten. God as we have seen gave them the laws for specific reasons. Now, since we are not under the law, there is no obligation we shouldn’t eat this or that. There are only two instances eating of meat is a sin.


a) If your conscience convicts you it is not good (sin) to eat any meat or a certain type of meat, afterwards you go ahead and eat you have sinned. If your conscience is clear on the matter of meat, you are free to eat without feeling guilty of having eaten meat or the meat. If you feel it is a sin or not good to eat pork and you go ahead and eat it, then you have sinned for you will feel guilty after eating it.

Blessed are those who don’t feel guilty of doing something they have decided is right. But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions if you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning.”

b) If your fellow believer judges eating a certain kind of meat or meats in general are not good, you shouldn’t try to convince him/her to eat it including meat that has been offered to idols. When you do so you are sinning for you are creating a stumbling block for him/her. If you have hosted your friend and he/she doesn’t like meat or a specific meat don’t go ahead and cook for him/her. Offer an alternative food. Even if you are in a restaurant, don’t eat meat which your friend feels is not good. Don’t be a stumbling block. Eat what your fellow believer believes is right to eat. When you are on your own or with friends or loved ones who don’t feel guilty of eating meat, there is no reason why you shouldn’t eat in such a circumstance.

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Accept other believers who are weak in faith, and don’t argue with them about what they think is right or wrong. For instance, one person believes it’s alright to eat anything. But another believer with a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who don’t. And those who don’t eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them.

Don’t tear apart the work of God over what you eat. Remember, all foods are acceptable, but it is wrong to eat something if it makes another person stumble. It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else if it might cause another believer to stumble.”

It is evident from the above scriptures and the verses that will follow afterwards it is not wrong to eat any kind of meat. It depends on how you feel on a particular kind of meat or meat in general. Everything that was created was created for our own good. We shouldn’t restrain ourselves or follow teachings that one should not eat this or that meat because it is dirty or an abomination to God. If you feel good eating a meat or certain meats, well it is all right but if your conscience isn’t clear about it don’t go ahead and eat it or any meat. The most important thing to remember is to give thanks before you eat and to ask God to bless it. When you give thanks to God for the meal and pray to God to bless it then the meal is sanctified. Go ahead and eat it. “Since everything God created is good, we should not reject any of it but receive it with thanks. For we know it is made acceptable by the Word of God and prayer.” Remember: “It’s not what goes into your mouth that defiles you, you’re defiled by the words that come out of your mouth.”

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      Kiss andTales 5 weeks ago

      Thank you !

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      AF Mind 5 weeks ago

      Well, I guess we can leave it there then. I thank you for being a respectful debater as most people i talk with on the subject are quite rude. Please, feel free to comment on any article of mine if you want to debate again. Take care.

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      Kiss andTales 5 weeks ago

      Based on that Jesus was among his followers as a teacher it certainly was a new situation in action. He showed love by his conduct to those that loved and hated him.

      Yes you are correct in that Jehovah had already said to love him and neighbors.

      Jesus. Himself say so here !

      1Jo 2:7 Beloved ones, I am writing you, not a new commandment, but an old commandment that you have had from the beginning. This old commandment is the word that you heard.

      It was very nice sharing bible truth and I appreciate your zeal for the word of God and Jesus.

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      AF Mind 5 weeks ago

      Very well. All is forgiven.

      And that is what I am doing. Showing the truth against the traditions of Christianity held by many today.

      Is John 13 34 really a new commandment? Is it new to love one another as yourself?

      John 13:34

      [34]A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

      In this verse we see him preaching a message of loving ones neighbor.

      Matthew 22:37-39

      [37]Yahusha said unto him, Thou shalt love Yah thy Elohim with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

      [38]This is the first and great commandment.

      [39]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

      Is this something new? No. He is quoting scripture. In fact this is a law from the Old Testament. Leviticus 19:18

      [18]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am Elohim.

      So this is not new as in a brand new commandment never being taught before. It is new to them because obviously these Pharisees were not teaching this. They were not teaching Torah. They picked and choose parts they wanted to follow, rather than just keep it all.

      Correct. The Jews who did not conform to his teachings as the Messiah were mainly the Pharisee and Sadducees and priests. But their actions do not mean that the entire race of Jews are no longer his people.

      .

      “The point is they did not fully keep the Mosaic laws themselves twisting them and adding rules like they labeled as work 39 different activities, such as reaping or hunting. These categories gave rise to endless questions. If a man killed a flea on the Sabbath, was he hunting? If he plucked a handful of grain to eat as he walked along, was he reaping?”

      Exactly. They were adding laws and not keeping the law itself. They also picked which ones they wanted to follow.

      All of that about the temple and nation being destroyed does not do anything to say that they were not his people. In fact, the same thing happened with Babylon. Temple was destroyed, and their city was ruined and taken over. But weren’t they still his people? You need to understand that the word Jew does not apply to every descendant of Jacob. It means three things depending on the context: 1. Someone who comes from the tribe of Judah. 2. While the kingdom was split, the Southern Kingdom (the tribes who chose to be under Judah while the others rebelled) were called Jews as they were the Kingdom of Judah. 3. Gentile converts to Judaism.

      “Traditions of what to eat and not to eat seems to consume them as a dominant law. Jesus has done his part as to say Mr 7:8 You let go of the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men.”

      It was a dominant law in the Torah, not their own law. Yes, they preached this. But that doesn’t mean that they were wrong to do so. They were just hypocritical. This was not a tradition of man. It was a Torah based law.

      “When the Believing Jews fleed to the mountains .where was there temple of worship ? Where was the priest who would offer up sin attonments in their behalf?”

      You could argue that they had some of these things in the 7 churches, but even if they did not what does it matter? The sacrificial system was done away with. That’s it. And while the 7 churches could act as their temple, the atonement sacrifice was done away with when he died for them.

      “All was nailed to the stake of Jesus.”

      Was it? Galatians 3 13 says the curse of the law was nailed to the cross. What is the curse?

      GALATIANS 3 10

      ..........."For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is everyone that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them."

      This verse is a precept to Deuteronomy 27 26. This does say, "Cursed is everyone who tries to do the things written in the law". Trying to obey it is not a curse. It says those who do not obey it are cursed. This in no way means the law is done away with. There is no proof so far. That would be contradictory as earlier Paul said the law is written on the believer's heart. And since this is a precept to Jeremiah 31 31-33, an Old Testament verse where the law was still being followed. So, the only conclusion based on scripture alone is that this is the Torah being written on their hearts. Saying it is anything else is just adding or not using proper precepts. Let's go to Romans 2 13.

      ROMANS 2 13-15

      ..........."(For not the hearers of the law are just before Elohim, but the doers of the law shall be justified."

      So those who follow the law are justified before him. There is a type of righteousness that comes from obeying the law.

      2 CORINTHIANS 3 1-18

      First, we must ask. What is Paul referring to when he uses the words, letter, ink, spirit of the living Elohim (Elohim), hearts, tablets of stone, and hearts of living flesh. These are extremely key terms that are used.

      VERSES 1-3

      ..........."Do we begin again to commend ourselves? Or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?"

      ..........."Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:"

      ..........."Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of the Messiah ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living Elohim; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart."

      We are going to examine these terms. Paul is obviously using metaphor. We can't say he is literally calling men letters (epistles). Something is being written.

      2 CORINTHIANS 3 VERSE 7-8

      ..........."But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:"

      ..........."How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?"

      Here is the answer to what is being written. It is a content that came forth from the mouth of the Creator through Moses chiseled on stone and written on paper, and it was glorious. So as glorious as that was, it is more glorious when these laws are being written on the hearts of men who will obey. Many quote Philippians 4 13 and say they can do all things through the Messiah, but the law is unable to be followed by them. Where is their faith if you don't think the law can be followed without difficulty through the Messiah, but they say they can do all things through him? And like earlier, no verse has said the law is done away with.

      JAMES 2 14-26

      ..........."What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him?"

      ..........."If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,"

      ..........."And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?"

      ..........."Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

      ..........."Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."

      ..........."Thou believest that there is one Elohim; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

      ..........."But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"

      ..........."Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?"

      ..........."Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?"

      ..........."And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed Elohim, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of Elohim."

      ..........."Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only."

      ..........."Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?"

      ..........."For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."

      Meaning what good does it do to have faith, but to not be a worker for the faith? Your works must re

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      Kiss andTales 5 weeks ago

      With all do respect I must apologize if I have offended you .not my purpose at all .But the truth may appear that way when you are bringing out some important points.

      Again I hope that you will understand me more clear and that its more important to exercise faith on truth not tradition.

      One of these Jesus called “a new commandment.” Jesus taught all his followers to love one another just as he had loved them. (John 13:34, 35) Yes, self-sacrificing love was to be the hallmark of all those who live by “the law of the Christ.

      The Jews who did not conform to Jesus teachings as the Messiah also known as pharisee and sadducees and priest help kill Jesus.

      There was a judgment by the Heavenly Father for this unlawful act done to his son.

      The point is they did not fully keep the Mosaic laws themselfs twisting them and adding rules like

      they labeled as work 39 different activities, such as reaping or hunting. These categories gave rise to endless questions. If a man killed a flea on the Sabbath, was he hunting? If he plucked a handful of grain to eat as he walked along, was he reaping?

      True there are believing Jews , who Jesus went to first to preach to as written.

      Jesus himself said that at that time he was only preaching to the lost sheep of Isreal.

      They had already as a nation been judge as lost.

      Mt 23:37“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it.

      Mt 23:38 Look! Your house is abandoned to you.

      1Ki 9:7, 8 I will cut Israel off from the surface of the land that I have given to them, and the house that I have sanctified for my name I will cast out of my sight, and Israel will become an object of scorn and a cause for ridicule among all the peoples.8 And this house will become heaps of ruins. Everyone passing by it will stare in amazement and will whistle and say, ‘Why did Jehovah do that to this land and this house?’

      Ac 13:46 Then Paul and Barʹna·bas boldly said to them: “It was necessary for the word of God to be spoken first to you. Since you are rejecting it and do not judge yourselves worthy of everlasting life, look! we turn to the nations.

      True a substitute of people now are called spiritual Isreal are no longer one nation of fleshly Jews as only Gods people

      Cornelius was not a fleshy Jew.

      But they recieved Jehovah's spirit to speak in different tongues to the nations about the Good News of Jesus Government.

      True many may read the Torah they read it too as Sadducees and Pharisee and Priest but they were evil men.

      , they did not benifit from its purpose and many are not still listening to Jehovah's anointed in the way they did years ago. Many read but missed it points

      Traditions of what to eat and not to eat seems to consume them as a dominant law .

      Jesus has done his part as to say

      Mr 7:8 You let go of the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men.

      The Jews house is abandon to them as a relationship with Jehovah no longer is it the way it use to be.

      There is no temple in Jerusalem the way it was before 70 CE.

      The Romans devastated the land because Jehovah allowed them to after killing his son Jesus.

      The Christain Jews listened and now make up new nations with Gentiles and tongues world wide.

      When the Believing Jews fleed to the mountains .where was there temple of worship ? Where was the priest who would offer up sin attonments in their behalf.

      All was nailed to the stake of Jesus.

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      AF Mind 5 weeks ago

      I don't think you're in a position to say I am picking and choosing since you don't even know what I follow. All you know is that I keep kosher. What I follow is the Torah. Everything aside from the done away law of sacrifice and death penalties, I keep. I don't sift through parts I do not like, because I love it all. I ask that you keep from such false accusations or this conversation will be cut short.

      You're implying that the Jews or Gentiles have different laws. It was the same then and now. He didn't pressure them to not eat unclean meats because as the converts to Judaism in Acts (Gentiles) they were already following the dietary law. But he doesn't tell them that. And eating in public with a gentile was not a Mosaic law. It was a custom being enforced by the Pharisees, their own customs. If you think this was a part of the mosaic law, show me the verse in the old testament.

      Most of what you said in the 2nd comment is true. Some Jews did lose favor with the almighty, and they did kill him. But his sacrifice does not do away with the law. He said so himself he came not to destroy, but to fulfill.

      Col 2:14 and erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.

      There is no longer a temple that would represent sins with animal sacrifices."

      Keyword, "handwritten". What does Jeremiah 31 31-33 say? In the new covenant the law would be written on their hearts.

      "The Jews destroyed their relationship with the Heavenly Father by killing Jesus."

      Wrong. It was only the Jews who didn't believe in him that lost their relationship with him. They are still his people.

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      Kiss andTales 5 weeks ago

      Based on this scripture christains are not under Mosaic laws

      The fact that there was no longer a temple that represented Jehovah no animal sacrefices was enforced but discontinued no longer a priest in a temple to present these gifts.

      Most Jews did not accept the good news about Jesus, and they did not listen when Jesus told them about a disaster that would happen to Jerusalem. He had warned his disciples: “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her.” (Luke 21:20, 21) Exactly as Jesus had foretold, Jerusalem was destroyed. The Jews rebelled against the Romans, and in the year 66, Roman armies surrounded Jerusalem and were just about to destroy it. But the armies suddenly left, and that gave Jesus’ followers an opportunity to leave Jerusalem and Judea. Many fled across the Jordan River and went up into the mountains. In the year 70, the Roman armies came back and destroyed Jerusalem. What happened to the Christians? They survived because they listened to Jesus’ warning

      Why this happened

      Mt 27:51

      And look! the curtain of the sanctuary was torn in two,from top to bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split.

      They lost Gods favor as his people

      The Jews had went to far killing Jesus God's Son.

      They would no longer would be protected or blessed by him.

      There was no temple to exercise animal sacrefices of clean and unclean.

      But there were congregations that contained believing Jews and Gentiles Jesus governed that formed new congregations under him.

      Corinthians , Galations ,Ephesians ,

      Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, These are the congregations that contained those that listened and believed in the Good News Jesus said preach about.

      There is no ceremonies of animal sacrefices listed as before Jesus death.

      The animals that was unclean is no longer a concern or value of interest because they were nailed to torture stake.

      Says

      Col 2:14 and erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.

      There is no longer a temple that would represent sins with animal sacrefices.

      The Jews destroyed their relationship with the Heavenly Father by killing Jesus.

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      Kiss andTales 5 weeks ago

      Ypu are picking and chosing what you want to do.

      If you notice the congregation of Jesus follwers was not in a temple where . And did Peter act bias to Gentiles as to eat with them in public .he was cpunseled. Because they no longer was binding to Mosaic laws.

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      AF Mind 5 weeks ago

      No it wasn't. That's the sacrificial system, which was done away with at his sacrifice. He did away with that, nothing more.

      You say I am putting myself under the law. GALATIANS 5 18

      ..........."But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law."

      Many believe that this implies that the law is done away with. But this phrase "not under the law" is referenced throughout scripture. Let's examine this. The first passage to mention this is Romans 2 12.

      ROMANS 2 12

      ..........."For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;"

      Here, Paul is saying that without law, or under law, you will perish because of sin. This is easy to observe. The law refers to the commandments and instructions given to Moses on the tablets and books, also known as scriptures. Why would he say that whether you are with or without law you will perish for sinning? Here is why. What does 1 John 3 4 tell us sin is? Transgression of the law. If sin is transgression of the law, how can someone sin being without the law, or under the law? The answer is that the words of the law are still relevant. Under the law means those who are taught under the scriptures. Without law means those who had no access to the scriptures. There are the physical scriptures (tablets and books), and there is the spoken word written on the hearts of believers. The earlier examination of 2 Corinthians 3 is a good example. It explains that Elohim is writing his word on the hearts of men, not on paper and tablets. No mention of the law being done away with.

      Paul is saying that regardless of if you are without the law, or receiving it by spirit, or receiving it by the book, and you sin, you will perish. We must not ignore the following passage after Romans 2 12.

      ROMANS 12 3

      ..........."(For not the hearers of the law are just before Yah, but the doers of the law shall be justified."

      The doers of the law are justified. Obedience to the law is essential whether you are with or without it. Here is another occurrence of the phrase.

      ROMANS 3 19-21 and 27

      ..........."Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before Yah."

      ..........."Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."

      ..........."But now the righteousness of Yah without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;"

      ..........."Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith."

      ..........."Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

      We can conclude that a man is justified by his faith and not the deeds of the law.

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      Kiss andTales 5 weeks ago

      That requirement was based on the Messiah had not arrived.

      That was his assignment. Jesus body was the last sacrefice. Used to pay sins with. That was why humans meeded to know what animals were suitable to give a s gift offering.

      We are not under MosIc laws. We do not offer animal sacrefices. Jesus discontinued its pupose.

      You undo his value by enslaving yourself under laws that was improved from Jesus ramsom gift of all time.

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      AF Mind 5 weeks ago

      KissAndTales, in the Old Testament law it was a requirement for both the Israelite and the stranger in the land to obey the dietary laws. Plus if you look in Genesis they too called animals unclean. And who is to say who is a gentile? Are you a gentile? You may have some of the 12 Tribes in you for all you know as the 10 Northern Tribes were scattered for quite some time and may have spread throughout the world in the ancient times.

      You also have t8 take into account that the use of nation and tongues doesn't necessarily mean different race. Remember, 12000 from each tribe were sealed beforehand. So it can also be referring to those who lived in these nations and spoke those tongues, not that they were a different race.

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      Kiss andTales 5 weeks ago

      First we need to understand the Jews under the Mosaic laws was bound by contract to obey these laws.No other nation of people including Eygpt had and agreement to be Gods people. And basically the Heavenly Father had a purpose that was in the works who he would bring his Messiah through the birth line of Abraham.

      Jesus was still born under the Jewish line and was obediant to all sabbaths and feasts and temple worship.

      It was only as completing his assignment that he fulfilled the purpose of what animal sacrefices really  meant. They were small examples of what humans would need to be forgiven for sins.

      Jesus value was so high that animal sacrefice would discontinue there could never be a number value placed on him.

      He is the first creation of Angelic sons a Prince of the Heavenly Father.

      Even on earth a prince in royalty is very valuble.

      So now this Prince exchanged his life to pay for generations of humans to keep living into the future paradise.

      If you take a good look at Rev it states that all nations and tribes and tongues would benifit from Jesus value as a ransom gift for humans.

      Re 7:9A fter this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.

      Notice in Rev these people are from all nations and tribes and tongues

      Saying they owe the lamb (Jesus )for their salvation.

      The problem is all nations here are not pure Jews .as it states different tongues and nations.

      These are people that could not be under the Mosaic law but are covered under his ramsom value. Peters vision explains that the Gentiles would also become Gods people as seen in Rev..

      Peter was to preach to the Gentiles people who were not under the Mosaic law.

      So according to Revelations Jesus followers come from around the world in their own language.

      If people are gentiles they will eat pig.

      Jesus never put a law out they could not.

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      AF Mind 5 weeks ago

      The scriptures used to justify eating pork need to be clarified.

      Matthew 15 17

      People like to say this verse is saying that whatever food you eat, it does not defile you. But this verse is not even talking about food. Turn to verse 1 and we will read to verse 20. Notice how the Pharisees are asking the Messiah why the disciples are transgressing the tradition of the ELDERS by not washing their hands before they eat. This was not a law in the Torah. How does he answer? He asks them why they transgress the commandment of Yah by enforcing their own tradition and not enforcing a scriptural law such as honoring your mother and father? That's part of the Torah. The first ten commandments (there are actually over 600, those first ten are not the only ones, read it in the first five books).

      So what does make a man unclean? Verses 16 to 19 tells us. Evil thoughts of murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. Sin makes you unclean. But what does verse 20 say? Eating with dirty hands does NOT defile a man. This is not about food at all. This is saying that having some dirt on your hands and you eat something does not make you unclean like an unclean animal in scripture. You might get sick, but don't think your name is not written in the Book of Life just because you had a bit of dirt under your fingernail. But knowingly indulging in foods that are not good for you? That is another story, but we will go into that momentarily. If he was talking about unclean food or dirt and unclean food, verse 20 would say he dirt nor unclean food defiles a man.

      He wasn't against the Pharisees for preaching the law of eating clean meats. He was against them because they DID NOT preach the law, and they were being hypocrites who enforced their own traditions but always liked to point their finger at others. These were the same guys that Isaiah was talking about in Isaiah 29 13, talking about their love for the Most High with their mouths but their heart is not with him. They are hypocrites. That is why the Messiah came. He came to preach the truth of the Torah to his lost people as they were being led astray by these prophets.

      Mark 7 19

      Precept this with the version in Mathew and we get a clearer understanding. Now, it says that when the meat goes through the belly and into the draught, it is purged. Now what does this mean? Remember, the start of the argument was that the Pharisees were accusing the disciples of not washing their hands before they eat. So this was about dirty hands. If I grab a piece of bread with dirty hands, what gets on the bread? Dirt. If I eat it, it does not make me spiritually unclean like a sinner because only sin defiles us. Nor does it mean I become physically unclean like an unclean animal as an unclean animal cannot be made clean.

      Romans 14 1-3

      I recently got into a discussion with someone who said that when it says all things, it means you can eat all things including the unclean meats. But read verse 2 again. This is not about eating unclean meats. One person believes they can eat all things, and another eats "herbs". It is saying that if one person eats meat and another one does not, don't get onto them for it. There is no harm in someone being a vegetarian. When it says all things, it means eating all five food groups; dairy, fruit, grain, VEGETABLES AND MEAT.

      Acts 10 15

      Read it untverse 14 But Peter said, “By no means, Master, for I have never eaten anything unholy and unclean.” Why is he refusing? He was there when Mashiach supposedly said food did not defile us (which I disproved earlier in the article), so he should have had no problem in eating it. Read it until verse 28. This was symbolic on calling people unclean. It was not about eating unclean meat. Nowhere in this chapter does it say Peter did eat.

      1 Timothy 4 4

      This is possibly the most used verse in this argument. "See? It says that we are allowed to eat anything we want so long as we receive it with thanksgiving." See, you are not using the verse in context. Let's go to verse 1 in that same chapter. It says that later on, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils. It also says that they would be passing doctrines forbid you from marrying, and commanding to abstain from meats, WHICH YAH HATH CREATED TO BE RECIEVED WITH THANKSGIVING. Read it until verse 5. These meats are sanctified by the word of Yah and prayer. So he created certain meats to be received with thanksgiving. Now what is the significance of this verse?

      Here again we have a verse that is pulled out of context and not harmonized with the rest of the Bible. The previous verse, 1 Timothy 4:3, shows that the subject is persons insisting that people become vegetarians and to even "abstain from meats, which he created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."

      What meats did he create to be received by those which believe and know His Word of truth, the Bible? the ones in Leviticus 11. Verses 4-5 are self-explanatory now. Verse 4 shows that "every creature" of him "is good and nothing is to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving." What does it mean "every creature." Verse 5 shows that it is those creatures sanctified or set apart by him, which are the same creatures of Leviticus 11.

      Colossians 2 16

      Colossians 2 16 is a favorite amongst many as a last resort. But what does this verse really mean? Paul is talking to believers that are keeping the Sabbath day and the new moons. He is saying to not let anyone judge us for keeping those days. Read it from verse 8 to 17 to get a clearer understanding and see how this is actually condoning the celebration of these days as a mandate. So obviously it is not about saying both the holy days or dietary laws can be thrown away.

      1 Corinthians 10 25

      Turn to 1 Corinthians 10 25 and we are going to read until verse 28. It says that if you find meat being sold in the shambles (that's a butcher's slaughterhouse), just buy it and eat it. Don't be asking questions on it if you know without a doubt that it is a clean food. Verse 27 says something similar. "If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake." But if you go to verse 28 you will see that if anyone tells you that this food was offered to some false god, abstain from it. So these verses are not eating whatever you want. Here is what it is about; any clean food that is offered to you, don't worry about it and just eat it with no problem. But if someone says they originally offered this food up to a pagan deity, don't eat it because you worship the Most High. When you knowingly eat something that was used in a ritual towards a false god you are not serving the Most High.

      He did fulfill the law, but that doesn't mean it is done away with. Matthew 5 17 says he fulfilled the law. Fulfill it, or make it known?

      "Playroo", a Greek word being incorrectly translated as fulfilled in Matthew 5 17. The word means to fill to top, to make known fully. That is what Mashiach did. He made the law known fully against the Pharisees who enforced their own traditions. He makes a clear emphasis that he came not to destroy the law. So that implies something different than it being done away with, because destroying it or "fulfilling it so we don't have to" would lead to the exact same conclusion.

      The Old Testament laws are to be followed. The Messiah was a worthy sacrifice and in place of the death penalty. There were few changes to the law in his place. He never got rid of it.

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      Kiss andTales 5 weeks ago

      Col 2:16 Therefore, do not let anyone judge you about what you eat and drink or about the observance of a festival or of the new moon or of a sabbath.

      This is why ! Acts 10:15 And the voice spoke again to him, the second time: “Stop calling defiled the things God has cleansed.”

      The only thing Christains are obligated to do is written.

      Ac 15:29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!”

      Mosaic laws was replaced with Jesus Ramsom . He improved amd replaced them .covering more then one nation and many generations of people.

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