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Jerry, Esther and the Abraham-Hicks Scam

Updated on May 13, 2015

Is Abraham Hicks A Sham?

Abraham-Hick Scam... or Truth?

Can anyone pull off a hoax this big, profitable and public for more than two decades?

That, it seems, depends on the gullibility of the followers, their willingness to ignore a mountain of contractions and whatever it is in human nature that makes us more willing to embrace sugar-coated fantasies in place of truth .

During twenty-five years on the road, Esther and Jerry Hicks carried off their scam so well they easily expanded into an online storefront of related Abraham-Hicks books, recordings, CDs, card decks and, recently, guided meditations.

Something new: Jerry and Esther Hicks Spiritual Money Tree

All the while, as they did exactly the opposite, they claimed not to market anything, just hang it out there for whoever was drawn to it. The sad thing this proved is that, behind it all, they knew what the right thing to do was and still did the reverse.


An Honest Look at Abraham-Hicks' Teachings

Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction
Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction

Do they make sense? Are they original? Who really wrote them? Here are the facts they don't want you to talk about.

 

Esther and Jerry Hicks, When Things Were Good

Source

Abraham Hicks - Never Been Their Practice To Push or Promote Their Products

... Until They Did

Much has been written about Esther and Jerry Hicks and the spiritual scam they they incorporated as Abraham-Hicks, the only nonphysical entity blessed with a surname, in workshops, on cruises, in books, on DVDs, YouTube, and even on inspirational card decks.

The marketing for the Abraham Hicks Scam has been over the top and certainly not consistent with the message, but that was a minor complaint.

Maybe, Jerry just couldn't help himself when it came to pitching products.

It was an uplift into the high pitched marketing it came to be before Jerry's death.

The Book That Brought Fame & Fortune

The Law of Attraction: The Basics of the Teachings of Abraham
The Law of Attraction: The Basics of the Teachings of Abraham

Not their first book, but the one that struck a chord with millions and brought followers to their lectures and follow on products.

 

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The Art of Happiness, 10th Anniversary Edition: A Handbook for Living

If someone knows more about the subject than Zen's greatest living teacher, it would be hard to imagine.

 
Reinventing the Body, Resurrecting the Soul: How to Create a New You
Reinventing the Body, Resurrecting the Soul: How to Create a New You

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Promoting Abraham-Hicks

Targeting followers who subscribe to the Abraham Hicks Quote of the Day, Esther and Jerry launched a much more aggressive pitch.

Instead of a quote, they presented a 32 consecutive day promotion for guided meditation recordings, dispensing with the expected quote entirely during that run.

In his lifetime, Jerry Hicks became a spirituality marketing nut and ran the program. Easy enough to take it in stride until one morning the daily quote arrived with the title: "Abraham says, 'This will put you into the Vortex.'"

Now he had dead people shilling products.

Part of the marketing pitch was this quote, presumably from Esther leading up to some words from Jerry:

"If you have known us for a while, you understand that it has never been our practice to push or promote our products. We have always tried to do as Abraham teaches by making them available for whoever wants them."

The reason this matters is that whoever was responsible for the quote, not only knew it was a lie, but was also making it clear that they know better.

The contradiction gives us an ironic insight into the transparency of the Abraham Hicks Scam.

Before reading too much further, for your own reference, you might want to take a look at the Abraham-Hicks.com website and see if you find any "pushing or promoting," setting aside the thirty-two straight days of pitching their guided meditation CD's.

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Drawing on ancient Toltec wisdom, the four agreements are as modern as today's sunrise. Simple and penetrating.

 

Abraham LIVE!

Updates The Abraham Hicks Scam

Note: After a tangle of technical glitches and declining attendance, Jerry and Esther Hicks mothballed the LIVE webcasts until after Jerry's death. At the same time, they canceled all but a single workshop, an unheard of act in the past.

Challenging the gullibility of their followers, Abraham-Hicks marketing pitch has been ramped up in a way that manages to be unintentionally humorous as well as creepy.

After years of pitching Abraham as "deader than dead," the Abraham-Hicks marketing machine has now announced--I'm not kidding--Abraham LIVE!.

Taking a tip from the monster churches in finding even more ways to generate revenue from unquestioning followers, they are now webcasting workshops, no doubt extracting subscriptions to participate.

Smart marketing.

What makes it even creepier is this. I'm quoting here:

"We recently had a chat with Abraham about these upcoming global broadcasts of our live seminars, which will allow people to participate in a live event without actually being in the room. So many people, from so many places around the world, have requested that we travel to their countries so that they can participate with Abraham, and this new Live Stream broadcast answers that request. It will be a great way for people who can't be, or don't want to be, in the seminar room to still participate in the seminar.

As Abraham used the word 'participate,' Jerry asked, 'Since the people won't be in the room and won't be raising their hands, and won't be able to sit in the hot seat to ask their question, what does Abraham mean by participate?' Abraham smiled..."

Now, apart from the possible hilarity of having "a chat" with dead people, how does a nonphysical entity of approximate one-hundred spiritual teachers smile?

Abraham Hicks on Death

Flashback To When It Was About Someone Else

About wellness:

"But it does take the determination that you're going to put your thoughts upon something that does feel good. And so, here we're going to make a very bold statement: any disease could be healed in a matter of days, any disease, if distraction from it could occur and a different vibration dominate-and the healing time is about how much mix-up there is in all of that."

--- Abraham

Excerpted from the workshop in Ashland, OR on Saturday, July 20th, 2002 # 230

And death itself:

"'...death' is a matter of closing one's eyes in this dimension and literally opening one's eyes in the other dimension. And that, truly, is how all death is, no matter how it looks, up to that point.. The re-emergence into Source Energy is always a delightful thing."

--- Abraham

Excerpted from the workshop in Buffalo, NY on Tuesday, September 25th, 2001

Note: This claim, that death is always "delightful" was dished out two weeks after the World Trade Center Disaster. For pregnant women jumping to their deaths from eighty floors in the sky, for others with children waiting at home, for professionals supporting families, for the captured passengers on commercial flights, a few with infants in their laps, death was a "delightful" experience, according to Esther Hicks.

Esther and Jerry Hicks and the Abraham Teachings

A Scam in Progress

In spite of more than two decades of ornamentation and rigmarole, the Abraham teachings are simple ones.

You can't write very many books about simple teachings, so elaborations by Jerry and Esther have grown the enterprise and finally arrived at a magical idea: The Vortex.

The Vortex is where all your dreams have been answered, your desires granted, and all are waiting for the perfect moment to manifest.

The Vortex, in my opinion, is a clever elaboration on the Abraham-Hicks scam designed to keep attendance up at the pricey seminars and to keep selling books, card decks, records, etc., etc., etc., based on a new angle.

The teachings, centered on the "law of attraction" are uncomplicated, if often contradictory, and less fantastic than some claims of conventional religions.

While we recognize five accepted senses available to humans - touch, smell, taste, sight and hearing - people making claims of advanced spiritual awareness argue that there is at least a sixth sense that has to do with emotional receptivity and is often related to the heart.

Spiritual or soulful feeling is a not uncommon experience that has led people, both wise and foolish, to theorize and make claims.

Although this sixth sense, call it that or something else, is widely accept as true, no one has provided a physical description about how it works, much as we understand the mechanics of sight and other senses.

Abraham-Hicks takes this a step further. They ("Abraham" represents a collective.) teach that this sixth sense is best recognized as "an emotional guidance system," much like a GPS.

Our thoughts tell this sensory equipment where we want to go, just from thinking, deliberately or more likely casually, and our guidance system responds by delivering exactly the results we've requested.

Since we have many thoughts and plenty of them contradict each other, our results are usually mixed.

Abraham wants us to become more aware of our thoughts in combination with the feelings that accompany them and, thereby, "create our own reality" intentionally.

This is a positive thinking argument that goes back, albeit not in so much of a spiritual sense, thousands of years and was popularized commercially in Hill's Think and Grow Rich, a favorite book of Jerry Hicks' that guided him before he met Esther.

Why The Abraham Hicks Scam Matters

Trust

When a local pastor is found to have been stealing from the church, the crime is more profound than if an average crook did it.

A crook is expected to act like one, which is why we have guards and prisons. A pastor is supposed to act like a pastor, not a crook. It's a matter of trust in both situations.

Similarly, if Jerry and Esther take Abraham in the spirit of what they teach, why would the constant marketing pitch, recently ratcheted upward in the spirit of the times, be so much a part of their public presentation?

In the mailing mentioned earlier, after the disclaimer, here is what Jerry says:

"I feel like I want to promote this product because I want everyone to have the opportunity to experience the wonderful things we experience with it every day. It is just so far beyond anything that we have ever experienced."

Why not just give it away, put these up on iTunes as free podcasts, and let Abraham's followers download them?

I guess Jerry doesn't want "everyone to have the opportunity" that much.

Abraham teaches getting into the flow of abundance, not taking action. If you create something great, folks will come to you to get it. Just make it available and widely known.

This, I think, does not include violating the trust of followers who have allowed you into their daily mail to read reassuring quotes by grinding them with thirty-two straight days of manipulative pitches.

Note 1/21/2011: As Esther and Jerry Hicks turned their attention to another Vortex product promotion, exploiting a mailing list where people sign up for "Law of Attraction Quotes" to pitch a new product line, some new trends have developed.

They seem to have dropped their old "allowing" and "live and let live" strategy in favor of a course in manipulation.

Here are two back to back quotes sent to followers by email:

"You are the thinking, Vibrating attractor of your experience; and the thoughts you think determine everything about the life that you live. As you turn your attention toward the positive aspects of the personalities and behaviors of others with whom you share your planet, you will train your point of attraction in the direction of only what you desire. Not only does the power of your thought determine which people make their way into your life, but the power of your thought determines how they behave once they get there."

--- Abraham

"You have the power to evoke from others the relationships that you desire. But you cannot get to a new-and-improved situation by giving your attention to the current situation. The Universe, and all physical and Non-Physical players in it, is responding to the Vibrations that you are offering; and there is no distinction made between the Vibrations that you offer as you observe, and the Vibrations that you offer as you imagine. . . . If you will simply imagine your life as you want it to be, all cooperative components will be summoned. And even more important, all components that are summoned will cooperate. It is Law. The experience that you have with others is about what you evoke from them."

--- Abraham

Who Is Jerry Hicks, the Idea Man Behind the Abraham Hicks Scam?

An Obscured History Including The Upper Tiers at Amway with Wife #4

From the earliest days when I studied the Abraham-Hicks phenomenon, I was aware of a sort of awkward overcompensation from the operation regarding Jerry Hicks' status.

Even though Esther Hicks is the only one of the two that channels Abraham, the histories always started with Jerry's background, his inquisitive nature and, tellingly, his claim to financial success before meeting Esther. The story credited Jerry as being the "questioner of all time" who lured Abraham onto Esther's head.

Here is a bit of what their official website says about Jerry:

"...by the time he met Esther, Jerry had built a multi-million-dollar business operation engaging over 100,000 people. His success springboarded almost entirely from a chance reading of Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich. Jerry confides, 'I was never much interested in money. I was more interested in having a wonderful life . . . and being free.'"

There is no mention of what that "business operation" was or what those "100,000" people were engaged in.

More tellingly for me was the point made, in explaining how Abraham first took verbal hold of Esther, that the couple were driving around in Jerry's Cadillac.

No mention of clothing, weather or other conversation, but his Caddy seemed important.

Their official website, seeming blissfully unaware of the humor, adds;

"Jerry's life reads like a celebrity bio: circus performer, juggler, boxer, singer, gymnast, radio show host, comedian, millionaire entrepreneur."

No mention of his work as a serial husband, which he was, married at least five times or, according to Jerry himself, so many times he lost count. And virtually none of the career claims, except Amway, comes with any documentation or anyone who remembers him.

In truth, Jerry's entrepreneur credentials come from work as a highly successful inspirational leader in the pyramid marketing operation, Amway, using techniques similar to those used with Esther in promoting Abraham.

They obscure this as much as possible and normally limit live appearances to unquestioning head-nodders like Oprah Winfrey.

Search Jerry on the web and you get either Esther or a history that leaves decades of gap material until he hooks up with Esther. If his "...life reads like a celebrity bio," how come you can't find it?

It's all wrapped into the Abraham Hicks scam.

A Little Bit of Truth Goes A Long Way

What I Think

As I have written before, I do not believe Esther Hicks could knowingly have faked channeling Abraham for decades. She and Jerry sincerely believe she may be channeling Abraham, but they have always been conscious enough of the stigma to call it something else.

The consistency of presentation, personality, philosophy and reliability argue against faking. What I do believe is that she is mistaking a mixture of intuition and extreme narcissism and that Jerry Hicks has always seen her abilities as a product with big time marketing possibilities.

Worth noting, too, that Esther consistently parrots Jerry Hicks worldview when doing Abraham. That is, virtually, Jerry Hicks is Abraham.

In my opinion, Abraham never announced that they would write a book with Esther by seizing control of her body. She wasn't dragged to the typewriter and forced to press keys.

That was an early strategy of Jerry's to get some book sales to go with the seminars - also to sell at the seminars.

Every book has been a digest, written by Esther and edited by Jerry, of genuine readings from Abraham Hicks workshops with their own labored spin.

Eventually, someone invented such stunts as "the vortex" to avoid repeating the same simple truths and watching seminar attendance plummet.

It started with the law of attraction, a theory many of us found easy to accept, having seen how attitude affects results.

Then, the art of allowing made sense too. Learn to manage your emotional stream.

After that, it's malarkey and elaboration. In my opinion.

The Conclusion About Abraham Hicks: It's A Scam

It always has been.

Think about this.

Meditation has been around forever. My cats do it.

Guided meditations are not new. I bought Andrew Weil's beautiful set on CD over a decade ago and found them immensely helpful in some very tough times.

The only argument for buying the Abraham-Hicks set is their claim that Abraham is somehow involved. Their pitch implies that they almost invented the concept and are not just jumping on an established sales stream.

On a personal level, I've learned a lot from listening to Esther's presentation of Abraham's teachings, even if they were all "borrowed" from another source. It can be exhilarating.

My suggestion is that each of you who have gained insight from the experience send a message to the Abraham-Hicks operation in Texas and ask them to get back to trying to teach spiritual truths and put Jerry and Esther's Abraham Hicks scam back in the corner where it can eventually be forgotten.

New: Esther Hicks extends the scam by giving Jerry Hicks eternal life on a personal level Jerry Hicks Died, But Guess What? He's Back!

© 2010 David Stone

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      David Stone 9 months ago from New York City

      Patience is still a virtue, Chris. Let time do its thing. Good luck!

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      James Clinton 9 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Another great blog posting. Although this blog posting is a few years old, it still rings true. Apparently now AH is using the word 'satisfaction' instead of 'allowing' . Doesn't it seem a little disingenuous that the words and applications keep changing? I think that since Jerry (the mastermind behind all this) died not 'croaked', not 'transitioned - the wheels are beginning to (hopefully) come off the proverbial 'monster bus'.

      I just want the person with whom I fell in love 17 years ago back but I'm not sure I have the patience to wait for him to figure out that this is a scam. He's a really intelligent person who eventually figure out that Christianity is the scam of all scams.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Interesting observations, RainbowKittens. Since Jerry died, whoever gets Esther's attention seems to set the standard of how the brand gets managed across multiple locations. I really think it's not so much her as others who are invested and gaining from the connection. She never was the sharpest tool in the shed and had to be pushed by Jerry to get things done. Now, she's just enjoying the free ride.

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      RainbowKittens 2 years ago

      Dearest David Stone, I've noticed a few changes as of late. There seem to be quite a few youtube accounts popping up that do not serve any purpose other than promote very cleanly cut segments of her show.

      I remember not long ago, when Esther was browbeating her most loyal supporters into taking down video clips. LOL It seems she's finally come around to see the value of such supporters sharing her work, too bad she has to pay them now to do so.

      I wonder if this has anything to do with the changes on the abeforum as well. It used to be that there were many threads where moderators did not interject.

      In normal forum etiquette, not the cult version, but average forums, mods don't get involved unless they have to, or to provide help. But these days, moderators have been injecting Esther's message more forcefully into threads. Its almost like you can't post, without a moderator correcting you. lol And they do so without the anesthesia of Esthers charm. I was upset at first, wondering why they were on offense.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Thank you for your comment.

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      The Wonders 2 years ago

      Greetings everyone, I work for a speaker and channeler of THE WONDERS (www.thewonders.com). Having experienced channeling and been witness to the blind faith that can sometimes accompany such sources of insight, I feel many of the ideas and insights presented by consciousnesses like ABRAHAM or THE WONDERS are designed to get a belief or psychology triggered, so that you can look at it, and then do something with - change or not change it. What these types of channelings provide is an opportunity, one that isn't available otherewise, to have deeply ingrained, self-sabotaging psychologies come to the surface. There are many who aren't interested in changing those psychologies, which is why channeling is still taboo, and channelers like Abraham are vilified by people like the author of this post. To say that it is a scam, when Abraham has hundreds of thousands of followers who have grown and benefited from their interactions is just plain ignorant and...narrow minded. My two cents. Also, if you're interested, check out the teachings of THE WONDERS teachings, which comprise the largest library of channeled teachings. Ever.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Thanks for your comment. I just want to note that while Andrew Wilcox was one of the original A-H debunkers, he died around five years ago. I believe he was a suicide, a troubled soul who said he saw through Esther's act and called her out. He had a tough road.

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      Tr20 2 years ago

      Just chiming in to say that I was heavily into A-H and eventually the bubble popped. I even visited one of your posts years ago and defended them vigorously in a series of comments. After the illusion cleared I had to clean up a lot of damage on the inside and on the outside after so many years in that cult--and I do believe it's a cult.

      And now I am angry and disgusted that I was taken in like this. A-H is about power and control and money. And it is astounding how much denial Abers are in, even very intelligent, good people. It seems impossible that I ever believed any of that now that I'm out the other side.

      I appreciate the resources out there for debunking A-H, no matter the perspective they come from. I am of the camp that Esther is not faking the channeling. I even think she is buying into this as much as her followers.

      There is another great blog that addresses A-H on the metaphysical level, calling out Abraham as an abusive and coercive entity. Google "the evil Andrew Wilcox" to find it (for anyone looking for more info or different perspectives). He has some deep insight for sure.

      And this is the book that finally woke me up: http://www.amazon.com/Magnetize-Money-Energetic-Li...

      Inside there are profiles of Law of Attraction teachers including Esther, Jerry, and Abraham written by a professional aura reader and healer. Gave me insight into the true nature of A-H as well as the consequences of living the LOA way.

      Probably not for one who eschews the metaphysical side of life altogether, but I highly recommend it. It was the eye opener I needed to finally turn away from delusional Law of Attraction thinking.

      Thank you for writing on these important topics. I am now trying to spread awareness now that I'm not terrified of messing up my "vibration" by "pushing against."

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Good for you, Shayla. I have to admit, it took be a little longer to catch on, but when you finally do see through it, the whole thing comes off as ridiculous exploitation of people hungry for something to cling to.

      Thanks for your well thought out comment.

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      Shayla and I am no starving artist.. 2 years ago

      Not to put artists down as I myself am one, but a lot of these Abe followers are starving artists, wheather they are writers, musicians, actors or designers they just can't make a living. Because there is no logical practicality added to these bullshit teachings. It does not help anyone lead a better life but persuades them to run from their problems and lets be honest that never works.

      I love art&design and somehow through a friend got caught in this web spun by Abe and her clever marketing team, I listened for about 4-5 months(yeah :/) and then just threw away those recordings because it became clear she wasn't a helper or a motivational uplifting speaker, but rather quite a depressing preacher who probably had a cult thing going on there.

      All I can say is I dropped those teachings and went out and searched for a real job instead of waiting and fantasising about it and now I can safely say I am no starving artist nor am I an artist. I enjoy my hobbies on the side but I'd rather live in this planet with my feet firm on the ground, that doesn't mean I am not ambitious but I just don't want to lie to myself and I wish abe would stop lying to these daydreamers half of whom are starving and barely making the rent but paying Esther off for her B.S advise.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      I'm happy you enjoyed it and appreciate the comment, La. Thank you.

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      La 3 years ago

      GREAT article! An eloquent way to surmise what a crock of crap the whole AH scam is!

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @metaknow: Yep, metaknow. I feel the same way about Seth, and of course, Jane Roberts didn't go over the top marketing. It seems to me that Esther and Jerry also borrowed a lot from Sheila Gillette who, although not as complex as the Seth material, seems genuine.

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      metaknow 3 years ago

      I felt that Abraham- Hicks was a fraud from the first time I listened to them. It is just one of those things you feel strongly, but can't quite put your finger on. there were some contradictions also. If she is now claiming to be taught by Jesus, she once was saying that he wasn't all that. The Seth teachings, though, I believe are the genuine article. I have never found anything within them that leads me to feel they aren't exactly what they claim to be. Frauds of the type of A-H will always slip and contradict themselves. I never saw that with Seth.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @mary190: In answer to your question, Mary, I don't believe Esther Hicks channels (or interprets blocks of thoughts from) one-hundred nonphysical teachers, including Jesus. Fraud is a big word that suggests criminal conduct. I don't believe Esther or Jerry have committed a crime in their programs. I just don't think their claims hold water. The evidence against their claims is strong and convincing. People will believe what they want to believe, and if they want to believe it badly enough, they'll accept illogic, contradiction and error as if they never happened.Second, the teachings of Abraham are largely taken from what others wrote before Esther and Jerry took the stage. While Esther and Jerry embellished a great deal and added some things of their own, the teachings form the New Thought Movement, Seth, Napoleon Hill, Sheila Gillette and others who preceded them are often useful and insightful. You can gain a lot from reading their books and listening to their presentations, but you have to sort through a lot of not so great stuff to get there. Why not go to the sources and skip the marketing campaign?

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      mary190 3 years ago

      hello, I'm new to this and I'm just wondering are you saying that Esther, Jerry and Abraham hicks is all a fraud, pretending to be channeling Abraham or are you saying that what they're teaching, preaching and their teachings (Abraham's teachings) is all a fraud, fake and untrue? Im sorry if i sound naïve but i just want to make sure. Thank you.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @Virginia Allain: Abraham-Hicks is a blame the victim theology that suits people who lack empathy or who don't believe in brotherhood, and it gets a lot worse than the examples you've given.

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      Virginia Allain 3 years ago from Central Florida

      I have trouble with pushing the power of positive thinking on people. There's a certain validity to being receptive to opportunity, but the idea that one can overcome illness, debt, and other bad circumstances makes too many people feel like it is their own fault that they are down and out.

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      Petty Vendetta 3 years ago from Norway

      Thanks for sharing this. Might need to add him to our list of Frauds, Scammers and Hypocrites.Cheers,PettyV

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @DJ3Sixteen: Pretty much where I come from on the topic. The Secret is smoother and less exploitive, Right now, I'm reading E-Squared by Pam Grout, which you also might like.

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      DJ3Sixteen 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Thanks for the reply Dave! Though to be honest, I'm still at a loss as far as this whole LOA thing goes. On the one hand, there's that woman's accents. Listening to Abraham speak through Esther is like a medley of accents from all around the World. One minute Abe is German, then Jewish, then from New York, and occasionally Antipodean. He gets around a bit, does our Abe, though I suppose this collection of spirits don't all come from the same place (do spirits have accents? Why do they always have silly voices? Sometimes I want to punch that Derek Acorah in the face....)Then there's the Copyright thing. I know Billy Graham wasn't short of a coin but his income was derived from donations, not DVDs and Seminars at pretty opportunistic rates. The first part of the Qu'ran or the Holy Bible makes no mention of Copyright, so why is Abe so precious about being ripped off? Why does he 'invent' all these terms and phrases, instead of using ones which already exist in the LOA vernacular, and then Copyright them? Is it just me who thinks Spirits would be more concerned about the, y'know, 'spiritual' stuff, rather than ownership of Intellectual Property or Breaches of Copyright?I've listed to a load of AH stuff now (with an open mind, obviously, or there would be no point) and I did find it pretty hard going. If the ideas are so simple, why express them in such convoluted sentences? If the LOA is so simple, then why use 100 words when a few, everyday words would do? Especially if you're a collection of spirits intending to communicate with the body of humankind...So I've given up on AH and given Rhonda Byrne a go instead. The Secret seems pretty good, if you ignore all the quotes from eminent Scientists you'll never have heard of; and I've just finished listening to The Power, which is all about the "electro-magnetic force of Love". It seems that filling just 51% of your day with love, or "feeling good" is enough to tip the balance, apparently, so I've been doing that.How's it been working out? Well I got an unexpected surprise through the post from my cousin yesterday (I asked her to proof-read my manuscript, and it's come back spiral-bound - an actual BOOK!) but I haven't had that massive cheque come through the door just yet, nor the brand new Mercedes delivered here by mistake. But the best thing I've noticed about feeling grateful, feeling happy, and feeling love? It's actually really good! I'm not really "attracting" much in the material sense, but I'm happy, far happier than I have been in ages. So I guess that counts for something. I'll listen to AH on my iPod now and again, but I think Rhonda makes a bit more sense to me. Your mileage may vary of course though Dave!Excellent lens - keep it up my friend.....

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @PaulaTLuxor: The jury's still out on that one, Paula. Thanks for visiting.

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      PaulaTLuxor 4 years ago

      Thanks for writing this.Is Abraham Hicks a cult?

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @DJ3Sixteen: Good question, DJ3Sixteen. In the way Esther and Jerry Hicks pushed it, like a dumbed down version of a much more complex idea about transcendentalism, it is a scam. It's aimed at the spiritually and intellectually lazy types who like being spoon-fed easy answers that help them avoid making an genuine investment in life.In the early days, Esther used to steer people to easier goals, like cars they weren't embarrassed to drive. As the need for growth appeared, she escalated to all sorts of crazy, anything is possible ideas. She even claimed people would grow additional arms if enough of them believed in it. A crafty move she made was to invent "the vortex," after followers started complaining that LOA "didn't work." Of course not, because "You're not letting it in." All their wishes had been granted she told them, but were held in their "vortex" until they had their minds right enough to let it in. So, it wasn't the universe that failed, it was the follower who was "letting it in." Pretty tricky.And no, although I've repeated invited followers to present evidence of their LOA claims, not a single one ever has. Not of a major illness that completely cleared up in a few days after changing the victim's "vibration," whatever that is or of a cash windfall, just by asking, not working for it.Thanks, again, for your question.

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      DJ3Sixteen 4 years ago

      So, if you'll forgive the Newbie question; does this mean the entire Law Of Attraction thing is a scam as well?Has anyone heard of anyone ever attracting these 'millions of dollars' Abraham talks about - any experience where we can point at it and say "See? It really does work!"

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Well said, Alex. Thanks.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I've been listening to this stuff for a few months and frankly some of it is helpful--though if you replace the jargon with more everyday words you can see that very few of the ideas are original. And the woman has a nice style sometimes--though she can be abrasive. But OF COURSE it's a scam insofar as there is no congregation of spirits, including Christ and Buddha, communicating with her. She may be inspired, and who knows where it comes from. But there is no chance whatsoever that the story they've given is true. And of course she has no idea what people are thinking in the room, what their issues are or anything like that. She's a good performer. Many, many performers can bring gullible people along like this. And of course money making is front and center in the operation. People who are genuinely called give their stuff away for FREE. Always. Imagine Buddha charging $17.99 for guided meditation CDs. Ha ha! And yet I still get some value out of listening--not always, but sometimes. Just because the background story is a lie doesn't mean that everything she does is b.s.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Sadly, Zach, a great deal of truth in that. Thanks.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Selling hope has always been a big ticket item. Mainstream religion has proved that for over 2000 years.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Thanks for the tip, Eliz.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Go to the 7:09 mark in this video to see a person that looks/sounds like Ester Hicks playing another part/role. youtube The Nation's Deathbed - Part 1 Dian Nicholson

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Exactly. And that is why I say that the logical mind can only take you so far. And it is there that I will leave you.Take care and have fun.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Ah, there they are again, the magical vibrations. Nobody can tell you what they are, but they form a core part of Esther's teachings. Fluffy enough to mean, excuse or explain anything.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: PS subject = subjective (typo)

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Just to clarify, it wasn't my intention to suggest that the logical mind "isn't the way to explore spiritual truth". It is one way and a very important way for us physically focused beings. But it will only take you so far. It's a great method for exploring _ideas_ about spirituality.Reality, both physical and non-physical (as far as I can tell from my subject experience processed thought my logical mind) is subjective. Even so-called objective truth is experienced subjectively.And as Seth said: "Fact is only accepted fiction."To learn more about subject reality and the nature of spirituality, I recommend Dr. David R. Hawkins. A well educated, scientific mind who gave seminars and controlled the edits on his YouTube account and created his own publishing company in hopes of preventing others from corrupting the information, like you do with the Abraham material.I appreciate that you love the position you've taken regarding Abraham being false and wrong. But spiritual truth transcends positionality and your subjective experience of objective scrutiny.Thinking and learning is fun. Using it to make others wrong, for me, doesn't feel right.I love Abraham. The teachings are simple and repetitive and always help me get back to the basics after stretching my mind as far as it will go at any given time. *Vibration first, words and action next. Pay attention to your emotions, they tell you where your vibration is.*Thanks again for being an avenue for my own spiritual exploration as spoken through the logical mind.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Thanks for your thoughtful response, Jason. I'd only disagree with your suggestion that logic isn't the way to explore spiritual truth. Why shouldn't it be? If it's truth, it should stand up to objective consideration. The problem with all that comes when logic is allowed to dominate to the point that received wisdom or insight hasn't enough room to breath.In my opinion, the best at this sort of thing is Deepak Chopra, a spiritual man of science who manages to find room for balance in both and to resist the eager leap without thinking first. If you don't mind a suggestion, I recommend you try reading some of Dr. Michael Newton's work about life between lives. He has thoroughly recorded, convincing evidence of a spiritually based universe, not hunches but insight gathered from going deeper in past life regressions. As invigorating as anything I've read. Raymond Moody's research into NDE's is fascinating too. For me, it shows that science and logic need not be obstacles to truth and wisdom and that well-educated people can be wonderful resources for knowledge.Thanks, again.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: I'm personally not feeling the emotion of desperation (at least not that I can consciously identify in this moment). And I think defensiveness is a natural response to your long-held, well thought out and passionate position that Esther/Abraham and anyone who loves the whole team and what they teach is, essentially, wrong.But, I agree with you. It shouldn't matter to me what you think about it or how mean or not mean you are about it.I do appreciate the opportunity to ask myself, "why am I reading these articles and why am I engaging with this man?" I think I'm engaging because you're fairly informed about Abraham and you give responses to nearly every comment and I guess I felt compelled to defend. Plus, like Abraham says, "sometimes you like the drama of it all". And I think that's true. I get so caught up in my spiritual research which includes Abraham, Seth, Dr. Hawkins, Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer, Ekhart Tolle, etc, etc (as you can see I'm into modern masters but I'm sure if I was around 90 years ago I would've been drawn to that Thought thing you mentioned - sounds like it might resonate with the popular stuff)... I get so caught up in spirituality that sometimes my brain wants to play at a "lower" level and it jumps at the chance for a good old fashioned logical debate.The problem is that spirituality is not of the logical mind. The mind helps us a lot with some understanding but ultimately it's like using a ruler to measure fluid volume. It doesn't give enough information. It can't. The logical mind is simply the wrong tool for deciphering spiritual truth.This interaction has been great for me. It led me back to A Course In Miracles (another channelled book) that says: "In my defenselessness my safety lies." Lesson 153. And it goes on to clarify, "The world gives rise but to defensiveness. For threat brings anger,anger makes attack seem reasonable,honestly provoked,and righteous in the name of self-defense. Yet is defensiveness a double threat. For it attests to weakness,and sets up a system of defense that cannot work..."Attack,defense; defense, attack,become the circles of the hours and the days that bind the mind in heavy bands of steel with iron overlaid,returning but to start again. There seems to be no break nor ending in the ever-tightening grip of the imprisonment upon the mind."Thank you for this opportunity to explore my impulse to defend certain things that I love and cherish. Defense is not necessary but it's human and no matter how connected to Source I become I will always always be a human who lives a physical life, experiences human tendencies and appreciates every moment.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Jason, you sound a little desperate to defend Esther in order to defend your dependence. A lot of protective rationalization and sloppy thinking here.Listen, be comfortable with it. You shouldn't have any need to decide that I or any of the other Abraham Hicks skeptics are mean or whatever else you imagine to be our motivations. It shouldn't matter to you at all, but it does because you're insecure in your belief in Esther's magic. What difference would it make anyway? If I were the meanest person in the world, that characteristic would have no bearing whatsoever on the facts presented.I'll confirm what I said. If I or anyone else had direct access to the deepest wisdom in the universe on a daily basis, preached it ceaselessly to anyone who'd listen and still they carried on as if they didn't get it, they'd be nuts by definition. Neither Esther nor Jerry were any of that. It showed when they dumped the flakey teachings in favor of the same common sense you and I rely on when Jerry got sick. And it wasn't the first time. If you trouble yourself to read their early work, you'll see that they had Abraham predicting worldwide catastrophes in 1990 and advising everyone who would listen to buy gasmasks for survival. When the apocalyptic approach failed to gain a following and the original teachings proved to be baloney, they moved it all over to the kinder, gentler Abraham of Ask and It Is Given. Wake up and smell the roses, man.The world needs more adults, Jason, and fewer dependents on gurus who offer easy outs and magical solutions. I hope you will become one of them sooner than later. We can use people with passion like you, and you never needed Abraham-Hicks for the teachings you find so beneficial. They were all out there 90 years ago in the New Thought Movement Esther and Jerry reworked into the Teachings of Abraham.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: When I said "they" I meant Jerry and Esther Hicks. In the seminars Abraham frequently speaks about Jerry and Esther's experiences with the Seth books and how it got them asking questions to Abraham about the concepts that Seth spoke about, namely, "you create your own reality" and "your point of power is in the present".I don't know much about their Theo experience except that I've heard that he gave Esther advice on how to meditate and potentially get in touch with her own entity - which obviously worked.Regarding Jane Roberts, obviously she wanted to sell her books. I don't think anyone (including you) would call that opportunistic or cult-inducing. Her and Rob were way more low key which is certainly related to the context of times, the wantingness of society to hear about the nature of reality from the perspective of a non-physical entity as translated through a person.Jerry and Esther have a context that is way more material focused. From what I can tell Jerry was interested in achieving monetary success his whole life. That doesn't make them liars, it just makes them different.Personally if I was Esther I wouldn't be giving seminars every single week with hardly any days off. I much prefer a more leisurely lifestyle. But that doesn't make me better, just different. As for your continual insistence that someone who channels should be able transcend typical human experience and cure themselves without medical intervention or know about scientific information that they've never familiarized themselves with or else they're idiots. Or as you put it:"If someone is channeling the wisest beings in the universe with direct connections to Source and knowing all things - or sleeps beside someone who does every night - if they don't follow the teachings on their way to complete fulfillment and perfect health, they're the looniest birds on the lake."My limited perspective of you is that your interpretation of the experience of channeling is misguided, at best and down right mean, at worst. (Sure public figures open themselves up to criticism and judgment from mean people, but just because you can doesn't mean you should.)Since you believe Jane Roberts was genuine why do you think she was only able to speak using words and subject matters she was familiar with and died young from disease? Was she too a "looney bird"? - in your opinion Anyway, you clearly enjoy focusing on the supposed wrongness of the Hicks enterprise so that's awesome. Abraham always advocates for fun and enjoyment. And my favourite teaching: "You can't get it wrong and you never get it done."Your articles have helped me to identify the desire for respectful acceptance of our differences, rather than mean and sarcastic name-calling like "liar" or "looney". Like Abraham says, "when you know what you don't want, then you know what you do want."Therefore, you continue to be the best you that you want to be and I will respect that (because that part of my personal journey).

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Jason, let's clear up your one obvious mistake. "They" Abraham never said anything. Why would eternal beings need inspiration? What Esther and Jerry said it that they read a lot of Seth, but their big push came from visiting Sheila Gillette and Theo, a channel she'd been sharing for years before Esther got into a very similar act. Sheila now says she "mentored" Esther, but Esther and Jerry didn't say that. Competing spiritual divas. Sheila, by the way, is much gentler than Esther and more consistent too."Esther is human," you say as a way of explaining away questionable behavior. I get that excuse a lot, but let me tell you this. If someone is channeling the wisest beings in the universe with direct connections to Source and knowing all things - or sleeps beside someone who does every night - if they don't follow the teachings on their way to complete fulfillment and perfect health, they're the looniest birds on the lake.Jane Roberts was an author, with and without Seth, and you better believe she wanted to sell as many Seth books as she could. If she was the source of such amazing wisdom, she'd be obliged to, to spread the word. As far as I can tell from what little I've read, the Seth books seem entirely genuine and not exploitive. Jane seems completely sincere to me.I agree that Esther is consistent, but with all the errors and stagy performances, I'd say there is little likelihood she is in touch with anyone with an education higher than high school. She's consistently clueless on science, making bizarre claims that, for example, humans and dinosaurs existed on earth at the same time (missed it by a few billion years) and the humans did not evolve from other species, although all the genetic evidence shows that they did. Consistent, yes. In error, frequently. If this is the best we can get from the "masters of the universe," who needs 'em?

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I am a happy follower of Abraham.As they've indicated their venture was inspired by "Seth" - channelled by Jane Roberts. They teach a very simplified version of Seth.The people who channel are human just like everyone else. Jane suffered from illness and Seth shed light on the mechanism behind it but being a human change doesn't come just because we have information. Life is way more complicated than that. Esther is human. She interprets Abrahams message very consistently.Jane Roberts and her husband didn't have interest in business like the Hicks. Does that make Seth more legitimate than Abraham? Or are the St books a scam too? Because I now owe my library $3 after reading about 1000 pages of material. I'd hate to think that all this time contemplating the nature of reality has just been a huge scam all along.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: I am going to assume, Lynne, that this isn't scripted, although it has all the earmarks I've seen before. So, let's take it a step at a time.First, I never wrote anywhere that the "law of attraction" wasn't valid. In my experience, it is. What I wrote and have written is that Jerry and Esther misappropriated teachings that have been around since the New Thought Movement in the 1920s and claimed that Abraham invented it. Of course, he didn't, and Esther and Jerry were well grounded in the principals well before Abraham appeared with revelations, which were, in fact, nothing new.If you take a look at the case you described, you present two people (you and your husband), one practices as instructed by Esther and one doesn't. But you get the same results. I'd say that nullifies your argument. It also seems like you've had a hard time convincing your husband because he isn't going along with the program. Does he "just not understand," like me?I'll bet your son doesn't practice either and would credit his success to good old-fashion hard work. And, of course, as you note, he was making good money before you started practicing Abraham, also not good for your case.Regardless, I think it's really great that this method has worked so well for you. You deserve it and seem to have raised a wonderful son who is more than willing to help out. You have plenty to be proud of. I would just suggest that you not give all the credit to Estherham. She borrowed the teachings, which would be okay if she were only humble and decent enough to credit the people she and Jerry got it from instead of claim it all for themselves as original.One thing that made me laugh was your suggestion that "most of the people who follow Ave have an IQ of above 140." I have no idea where you got that from. Most of the ones I see comment can't spell, write a complete sentence correctly or organize their thoughts in an organized pattern. If they're high IQ, the brains are being wasted. They are also pretty angry, a lot of them.You, on the other hand, do a smart, organized job of making your case. It's nice to see intelligent arguments that differ from mine, and it's a rare thing among Abers when they can do so.Best of luck to you, you husband and you terrific son. I hope yo all continue to prosper.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @Gypzeerose: I actually am glad that I based some of my financial decisions on them. It's a long story but at one point in my life things looked hopeless for me. I heard Abe or Esther say that we create financial problems so we can learn to be wealthy. Then my son told me he was leaving his high paying job. I depended on him often. I used what they taught & I focused on what I wanted & stopped looking at what I didn't want. My son went into his own business & we suddenly had an enormous amount of money coming in. My husband had just turned 62 & we were waiting for him to get his first social security retirement check. Then my son hired him as a supervisor. My husband was a hard worker when he was younger but had slowed down a lot. My son needed someone to watch over construction crews especially if they were in someone's home while the homeowner was out. My husband is paid very well to just be there but this is of great value to my son. I am telling the details because if I just tell you it worked out it might be hard to imagine, I learned so much about taking care of money. People hit the lottery & then often lose the money because they don't understand certain things. Abe was right. Who is Abe? Our mind, consciousness. Yes, it is the same message we can get from any other source if we are open to get something that works. It doesn't matter where it comes from. Abe tells us this. I wanted to do something & my husband wouldn't do this with me so I finally let go of depending on his & found a group of people I call each morning to do this activity with. I am so glad I stopped looking to him & opened to the essence of what I wanted to come to me. If Abe doesn't resonate with you then find something that does. You really do not understand & wuold be better off asking questions than making assumptions. You are taking stories you have heard from those that have had problems. Abe is not to bleme. If someone is going to leave their family they were going to do it anyway. If someone messes up their finances or spends money they don't have it is their choice. I bought a few books years ago so I spent the total of maybe $50, You can go on youtube.com or any of the yahoo groups & learn whatever you are ready to learn about. It doesn't have to cost a dime. I have a lot less stress because of this material & the others positive way of looking at life. These people are not dumb people. I am on the lower end of intelligence when it comes to Abers. I would say most of the people who follow Abe have an IQ of above 140.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: It's usually one absurdity or another that gets our attention enough that we look further. It's then that all the warts and cavities start becoming visible. As long as we let ourselves be lost in the glaze of wishful beliefs, we do not see what is, just what we hope is there. Me, I like the world I've discovered and am happy living in it without deliberate illusions.Thanks for your comment.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Scam. I did listen to a lot of online stuff, and even paid some material. The first recordings I heard were the free recordings. One of odd aspects was the odd accent she had at the time. In a later interview, when asked about it, she basically said "what accent?". I began to wonder why lie about something so obvious? And the contradictions became more and more clear. Throw money into the mix and they are as trustworthy as any used car salesman (no disrespect to used car salesmen - many are far more honest than the Hicks, but the negative stereotype is a common point of reference)

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Gypzeerose: The interesting thing about Esther/Abraham on YouTube is that a hired production team goes to a lot of trouble to take out the weak material and boost production values. They can be very motivating because they are cleaned up for mainstream audiences. I do think there are better teachers, though.I started with Wayne Dyer as a great guide to opening up to ideas and really took off with Tolle's "Power of Now." Nowadays, I'm turned on by researches who see things like past life regression as a way to verify and learn from the spirit world. Once you start getting that kind of knowledge, you hardly need anyone to yank your chain anymore. Just knowing spurs passion.Thanks, bloomingrose, and nice to hear from you as always.

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      Rose Jones 4 years ago

      Thanks for your thoughtful and well-researched lens. I definitely recognize the controversy in channeled material, especially when there is a such a huge profit margin. I consider myself a metaphysician however, so I believe a lot of the ideas. However, the ideas of Emerson, Charles and Myrtle Fillmore, Ernest Holmes, and even the New Testament are pretty accessible actually. I enjoy watching Abraham on youtube - I am not basing my financial decisions on it however. Blessed, pinned onto my spirituality board.

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      Rose Jones 4 years ago

      Thanks for your thoughtful and well-researched lens. I definitely recognize the controversy in channeled material, especially when there is a such a huge profit margin. I consider myself a metaphysician however, so I believe a lot of the ideas. However, the ideas of Emerson, Charles and Myrtle Fillmore, Ernest Holmes, and even the New Testament are pretty accessible actually. I enjoy watching Abraham on youtube - I am not basing my financial decisions on it however. Blessed, pinned onto my spirituality board.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Sophia, I know all about visualization-manifestation. I have no idea why you'd plan to let me know when you finish them. They may be interesting, but you'll get more free exposure if you start with a blog or your own. Blogger is the best free one. Or, you can post them here as what we call "lenses," which zero in on a specific topic. Seekyt and others are also good free options. All will give you more freedom and space than the one or two experiences I'd make room for here.By the way, what is it with you Abers and the unsolicited advice? You don't know me at all, and yet, you (and others) advise "lightening up" as if that meant a conscientious reporter might ignore Esther Hicks, Abraham and all that. Aren't you supposed to be a "live and let live crowd?"I'll tell you this, I've been around Abraham-Hicks and have known many people deeply involved with Esther and Jerry, and the last person I'd go to for advice would be an Aber.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: You have just inspired me to chronicle all my visualization-manifestation stories. Will let you know once I've finished writing them. I plan to finish by this summer. Will let you know. Cheers! \(^-^)/ in the meantime, lighten up, Dave, whoever you are.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: And yet, as is typical with sock puppets, you haven't been able to provide a single example anyone could check out. Say "Hello" to Esther and the team.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I've known the power of what Abraham Hicks is teaching long BEFORE I heard about them. My own life experiences have shown me without fail that it is true. You have the power to attract what you want when you get into alignment. My life was filled with powerful visualization manifestations which I was quite mystifying, and Abraham Hicks was able to demystify a lot of that for me and empower me more. The problem is when people who have been long out of alignment get into their teachings, have a shallow knowledge of what it's all about, mistaking it for a quick-fix, and getting disillusioned. If one would get a proper grasp of what they are teaching, it is the most empowering material I have ever come across and I appreciate the work both of them have done for so many years. In deep appreciation. Love and Light.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: "Positive schizophrenia?" "Unperturbed psychopaths?" I'm not sure whether you created who new categories or oxymorons.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      This is one the best examples of "positive schizophrenia" you can find... or in other words... When unperturbed psychopaths reach their zenith.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @greg2biz2: I understand. You can imagine the anger and disgust of people who followed them only to decide they'd been duped. A lot disillusioned out there.Thanks.

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      greg2biz2 4 years ago

      I read some of theirs books and I did not find them appealing. I never found chemistry with them , but for some reason I found the digusting. Just my personal opinion and I have the inner feeling, that they are very fake.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Did not know much about this "Abraham" personality thanks.

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @TheWritingnag: Thank you, Writingnag. I'd be happy to see your comments when you've read through.

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      Writing Nag 5 years ago from Colorado Springs, Colorado

      I appreciate all of your research on this and I intend to read all of your lenses on this scam. Thanks! and Blessed!

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @RationalHedonist: It always intrigues me, too why pay money for this? In the end, I think there's just enough people out there who want to find and easy way through life, something simple to believe in, to keep a few of these things alive. It's a sort of impulse to avoid or a fear of doing the grown up thing and figuring out how to live in a complex reality.

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      RationalHedonist 5 years ago

      I'd never heard of this one, but spent some time reading over several of your lens about it. The psychologist part of me is always interested in how modern flim-flam artists, the newest versions of snake oil salesmen, can sell so much baloney apparently without conscience or a blink of an eye -- and how their victims will pour out what little money they have for some promise or hope. The wolves are always prowling for lambs.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Abraham is real. It is a gathering of souls (beings, whatever you wish to call your real inner self) with similar interests and intentions that have a collective consciousness and agreement to channel through Esther, first within the inner planes (dimensions) and then manifesting into the projected world (our physical world). I have personally witnessed Esther and 'Abraham' on the inner planes during a trance early on Tuesday, Nov 13, 2012.

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: All debatable points, imo, Steve, but thanks for sharing.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @David Stone1: You are very ignorant in my opinion. No one could be that smart to fake all that abraham has taught. I really don't care what you think!

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      MelanieMurphyMyer 5 years ago

      For me, the verdict is still out about how much of a scam it is or isn't (it doesn't matter a whole lot to me), BUT I do appreciate your thoughts and writing about all this because I often come across LOA people who make it sound like if my daughter and I only believed the right things or felt the right things, her cystic fibrosis would be gone, she would not be having to think about a lung transplant, etc. It feels so bad for both of us when we hear those things. I think most of them mean well - they just don't have personal experience with some of the tougher things in life. Thanks for writing.

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @chas65: Thanks. I'm glad you appreciated it.

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      chas65 5 years ago

      A well researched lens about a scam that had not heaard of before, very informative.

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @LynetteBell: You're welcome, but you're down to earth. I get the feeling you may not have needed a warning to catch a whiff of what this all is about.Thanks.

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      LynetteBell 5 years ago from Christchurch, New Zealand

      A very full lens on this scam. 'Id never even heard of Jerry Hicks before but when I saw several lenses about it from you I just had to look! Thanks for the warning!

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @bigjoe2121: Well, that is criticism, though, isn't it? It's routine. Abers don't like the message; so, they blame the messenger. They seem unable to respect a difference of opinion. I couldn't be objective, could I? Must be that I "really don't like them" and lose my perspective.The fact is that I happen to find Jerry Hicks fascinating, and it's too bad no one will ever tell the true story, his full story. Esther strikes me as self-absorbed and not so interesting. She was just incidental to what Jerry engineered, even though some think he actually believed she was channeling.So, you can forget any theory about how my not liking them colors my perceptions. The truth is that, objectively, their story just doesn't stand up to serious scrutiny. Apart from it's all being too fabulous to be real and having too many missing pieces, at some points, Esther's claims are simply stupid. She maintains (as Abraham) that all the people who died in the 9/11 disasters intentionally picked that time and places to die. In other words, women with babies in their laps got on airplanes knowing they would die by crashing into a building. Here's the real kicker the babies did too. (Please don't go into denial on this example, as Abers often do.) If you can live with that along with Esther's giggling about their "croaking" and how it was blissful, then you've gone somewhere most of us would ever go. And if you don't buy it, you're disagreeing on a fundamental "teaching of Abraham." There is no escaping the conclusion that these claims are crazy and far beyond anything "enlightened beings" would engage ever in.A few people are willing to believe in Esther because she makes it all sound so easy. It's cowardly to drop out into fantasy. But that's where most go when they sacrifice truth and reality in behalf of treasured, however nonsensical beliefs.

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      bigjoe2121 5 years ago

      @David Stone1: Hmmm, I don't read what comes from her, or "them" the same way you do at all. You seem to take everything they say as a personal assault to you, or decency, or something. I'm not criticizing you so I hope you don't take it that way. It just seems like you really don't like them and you let that color your perceptions.

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @bigjoe2121: That she likes the money and has a lot of hangers-on pushing her on it. If you follow her email blasts, you'll see that there is a decidedly mixed relationship with that she calls her "traveling team" and disappointment with how unraveled the operation has become. Jerry held it together and kept her on a fairly short leash. She wasn't as happy with it as the blurbs claimed. Now she has it to herself.I originally thought the group would peter out over a year. In reality, they are running half as many workshops and attendance is tanking. The question is, how many hard core followers will stay around long enough and keep ponying up the cash? No new ideas are coming up to stir followers. Currently, she's resurrecting "the grid," a relic from 2001 and borrowed from elsewhere at that. Their homepage on the web is not being well taken care of. Under the bios, for example, eight months after Jerry's death, they rhapsodize about his perfect health, youthfulness and their blissful life together. No updates in all that time.In the long run, I don't think she has anything near the gas to carry this a lot farther. AHP supports a number of people, including her sister who is an employee. But that's not going to be enough for much longer. Time will tell, of course, but everything about the operation is getting weaker without the resident genius to keep it sparked.

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      bigjoe2121 5 years ago

      So now that Jerry is dead and she is still channeling, what is your conclusion?

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Well I have to be honest.I attended a seminar around 10 years ago,and took the hot seat in front to ask a question.The moment "she" started talking I deeply inwardly knew there was no power coming from her and certainly no divine force of any kind.."simply" a good actress..and I could tell she knew , that she was not fooling me (lol). It was sad because there were some people there w/ serious issues who paid a lot of money for guidance/help. And I am a former discipline of a great spiritual master and presently an Awo IFA..so I am pretty good at knowing the genuine article.

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Kate, keep in mind that all of the YouTube videos are promotional. Esther and Jerry have paid producers show them in their best light, errors and mistakes edited out, the rest glossed up. Jerry and now Esther and her crew refuse to allow any other versions and are heavy in attacking people for copyright infringement even though this violates everything they have preached for years. Of course, though you might not be aware, Jerry never followed the Abraham teachings or practices, and Esther only sometimes did. They left that foolishness to paying customers. Interesting that you're comparing Esther to entertainers, because that's essentially what she is, staged and geared for product sales. She charges more, though. $195 U.S., for only three hours nowadays, no lunches anymore. She charges $95 for the video version, which you are not allowed to record or even view after 48 hours. Her prices are far higher than average for both versions, but who cares. If people want to toss their money at her, it's their business. Her audiences are shrinking though. I don't know what your hang up is with String Theory. It isn't mentioned here, although it is briefly on another lens. It was mentioned by Kyra and others because it seemed strange that infinite intelligence would not understand what it was. Of course, no infinite intelligence was involved, just Esther, which explains why, poorly educated soul that she is, she mistook it for something to do with evolution, which she disputes. She argues that each species was a completely different "idea" that developed independent of all the others. That loopy opinion ought to have been enough to drive any followers away, except that most seem to be at least as uneducated as Esther is, making it a good fit for scientific illiterates. What your husband's Christian beliefs have to do with it, I don't know. To say that some things in Christianity are equally inconsistent, hard to believe and contradictory is accurate but no excuse. I have a hard time understanding why people follow either Jesus or Esther (she says she is the same as Jesus, by the way). Fear and lack of trust in themselves recognized by people who are willing to fill in the blanks for them for cash, I guess.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @David Stone1: I love people who think for themselves and your stuff is no exception! I have listened to Abraham Hicks for a while - not obsessively and I've never been to one of their workshops because I live in the UK but I have to say I don't understand why people focus so much on how much money they are making. For the cost of "Ask and it is given" and endless clips on You Tube you could have access to loads of really great stuff. If you want to attend a seminar well tickets to see any half decent entertainer cost 50 - 100 so it doesn't seem excessive. There are plenty of other people with lower profiles in this area charging far larger sums. I personally feel sure Esther is channelling something but I don't ask anyone else to believe this - my husband, for example, believes that Jesus died to save us from our sins - personally that makes no sense whatsoever to me. However on this and other forums a few people have focused on the answer to String Theory question - on You Tube for those who want to check it out. I heard it a while ago and didn't think it was Abraham or Esther's finest hour but string theory isn't something I spend a great deal of time on so didn't worry about it. Abe was asked a question in 2004 - I searched on their website - but the tape with the answer on it would cost 60 US dollars so I didn't feel like taking it any further but if this is one of the key criticisms you have of them and you kind of make a living out of investigative journalism (nothing wrong in that) maybe you would feel like spending that on the tape and enlighten us all here. I have no idea why they charge 60 US dollars for that but then I haven't asked them - it seems excessive. Thanks for your work .... I appreciate it even if I don't agree with you! Kate

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: You'd be surprised how little time I actually spend on it. The scam is fairly boring, actually, and the followers and uninteresting group without much discretion. Why? Because readers are interested. A-H is less than 10% of what I've written about, but it catches a big proportion of readers. Regarding your suggestions, in my experience, unsolicited advice is usually worth every penny. Yours is no exception. And, by the way, hobbies are diversions for people who don't don't have enough vital things to focus on. People like you, for example.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Wow, you spent a huge amount of time and effort focusing on this "scam" -- you seem weirdly obsessed. Why? If you don't like what they are doing, just focus on something else you DO like. Get a hobby, dude.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Hi xinhead. You're absolutely right, but if you criticize and spend time focussing your powerfully creative mind on all of DavidStone13's shortcomings, you're no better than him.Don't focus on people like him, focus on positive aspects of life instead.Allow him to ramble incomprehensibly all he wants but don't fall down to his level.Best wishes for your health, wealth and happiness,Roy

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Love it, love it!!!

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @Ahnalira: Damn straight, you should. But wait....Certainly you're not suggesting that Abraham got this idea from you? The masters of the universe filched a nifty catch phrase and didn't give you credit? Why, then, you'd have to think all of their ideas came from someone else. Oh, oh, right, we already know they did, as Kyra has so smartly pointed out.

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      Ahnalira 5 years ago

      "Art of allowing" is actually a turn of phrase that came from me... way back in 2000 - one of their first video recorded workshops (and it's on one of their DVDS) where I am invited to the hotseat and I say, "I am a master summoner, and I want to learn the art of allowing." (or something close to that :P) Soon after, the workshops started being called Art of Allowing workshops... I guess I should trademark everything that comes out of my mouth ; >)

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: I hardly know where to begin. I can't respond to all the stuff in your ramble; so, I'll try to answer what seems comprehensible.First, my dictionary describes a scam as "a dishonest scheme." Hostility and vengeance have nothing to do with it, even if I am hostile or vengeful. I think you made up some motives to cover protective rationalizations that protect your beliefs. Placing relevant ads in online content is what enables you to read free. Advertising pays the bills. Does the same thing for your local newspaper. You wrote: "Abraham has always made it crystal clear (though you may not have heard it because you hear what you want to hear) that they are not telling anyone anything they don't already know, and if practicing the LOA doesn't feel right to anyone they shouldn't do it." So produce that quote verbatim, just as I have. You think I don't get it, but you say that the "law of attraction" is a "practice." Huh?So, you feel threatened when someone disagrees with your beliefs about the Abraham-Hicks operation. Calm down and accept, as Esther claims to, that there are many different ideas about the world. Some, most really, don't agree with your angry defense of the "teachings of Abraham," but so what? Majority opinion is as likely to wrong as right. You should stick to your beliefs, as long as they inform and empower you, no matter what I or anyone else thinks or writes. But you need to make room for other opinions without getting pissed. By the way, "helping thousands of people be happy" emphasizes cult-like dependency. What do they need Esther for? And what do you mean by "happy," anyway. Laughing gas makes people happy, in their own terms, as does the animal abuse Esther endorses. That doesn't make "happy" anything more than an empty word for which each of us has his or her own definition.Whether I'm "angry and bitter" or "bored" isn't relevant to issue at hand, and you need to step back and get your mind around the idea that this lens isn't about me. I have written lenses about myself, but this isn't one of them.Your next to last sentence is something you might want to read back to yourself and objectively wonder where your mind is being led: "...wasted time dissecting what Abraham has said without actually understanding what SHE means." She? Subconsciously, you're getting it. There is no Abraham, never was. It always was and continues to be Esther and her performances.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Anything, anything, if you look at it with hostility and vengeance in mind, can be made to look like a scam. Perhaps you are a scam. you are getting a kickback from anyone who reads your blog and clicks on any of the many books you are listing here. And I would believe that because you are so fearful of being scammed, that you are in fact so afraid of it because you yourself are a scammer. Abraham has always made it crystal clear (though you may not have heard it because you hear what you want to hear) that they are not telling anyone anything they don't already know, and if practicing the LOA doesn't feel right to anyone they shouldn't do it. I don't know why you feel the need to poop all over a teaching that is helping thousands of people be happy. Are you so twisted that you can't allow anyone else to feel happy if they use a means that differs from your own choices? A scam is a swindle, but I don't feel swindled at all by Abraham. I have been studying their teachings for years and have never felt scammed or swindled by Abraham. I know people who went from despair to living a happy life with the help of Abraham's teachings. When you can talk intelligently about your own beliefs without vilifying the beliefs of others maybe you'll start making sense, but now you just sound like an angry and bitter and you must be bored to spend so much wasted time dissecting what Abraham has said without actually understanding what she means. Good luck with all that, dude.

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      poppy mercer 5 years ago from London

      Their stuff always gives me a nasty feeling...and I do go with my gut. There seems to be a lot of fear based stuff and theatrical sensationalism. Of course healers and teachers need to be paid for their time and services...they still need to live, eat etc, and must earn their living like the rest of us, but I can't get my head around such grand scale monetizeing of a 'spiritual message to humanity'.

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      trueindigo 6 years ago

      The Principle is the best in-depth debunking of the LoA on the market. It isn't really about how the LoA is completely a hoax though. It goes into depth describing the actual force the entire universe uses to create itself, a scientific principle known as emergence. The Principle not only shows how the LoA is completely invented, using its own source documents, it does a very good job describing how manifestation occurs, whether it is the formation of a galaxy or the creation of a song by Michael Jackson. The basis of it all is emergence. www.the-principle.com

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @anonymous: @Jazz. Everyone channels whether they're aware of it or not. Channeling is simply receiving information from your higher self through the actual channel of imagination. Your higher self or higher mind is that part of you which conceives new ideas.If you feel attracted to any particular channel, that simply means that you are giving yourself permission to allow that kind of information to flow to you through the idea of someone else bringing the info through. Ultimately no one needs a channel, all you have to do is quiet your mind then any and all questions you have will be downloaded from your higher self to your physical self - it's that simple :)The reality you experience is a refection of your definitions and beliefs. Thus if channeled information from others resonates with you, it will be helpful to you. I find Abraham very helpful, although Bashar resonates more with me.

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      David Stone 6 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: If there is a real Manuel at all and not just another sock puppet from AHP, he was just copying and pasting a script. If he was sincere and knew what he was talking about, he'd have come right back at you. He's now waiting for someone to tell him what to say or setting up another fake identity.

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      David Stone 6 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: First, we don't have to pretend that Abraham is not real. Abraham is real in the sense of what Esther and, mostly, Jerry cooked up as a clever way to pitch their worldview in a way that gave it extra credibility for the gullible. The "teachings" were all borrowed, nothing new, an amalgam of Jerry's reading, share with Esther, over the years. The difference, most of the others never claimed an otherworldly source, except Jane Roberts and Sheila Gillette, who earned money without working doing it.Jerry Hicks absorbed the lesson.You claim to have been blessed spiritually and morally by the teachings, but you offer no evidence. I have been too, but everything I heard from them I'd heard before, except the channelling, which I was foolish enough give more credibility than it was worth.Where is the crime? Clarity answers that below, but I'll add that business people support laws against fraud because trust is important for them. If everyone gets the idea that any huckster can say anything for a profit and nobody is looking, then all businesses suffer the same cultural stigma.Nobody here, as far as I know, especially me, has anything against making money, especially me. I love living in a great city and traveling to Europe regularly, plus a lot more, with money still in the bank. So, you can drop the phony defense.Your response is obviously scripted, by the way, probably by Barbara, the way it reads, and neither Mark or Esther is smart enough to craft such clever disinformation.I pay hefty taxes too, but that doesn't give me the right to scam people. And trying to pass Esther's Abraham shtick off as "diseminating information" (which you misspelled) is laughable. Trying to imply that they promoting cancer awareness is nearly hilarious when, in fact, part of the scam includes trying to disuade people from knowing Jerry Hicks is suffering from cancer as if there is something wrong with it. It's a bit cruel, by way. Pass that along to Barbara and Esther as they are clearly taking over the production, edging Jerry out.Finally, claiming that "nothing is wrong" shows how foolish these "teachings" are. Sitting here on September 11th, ten years after the tragedy I experienced first hand, Esther Hicks is telling us that nothing was "wrong" about killing thousands of innocents by crashing jetliners into buildings? I've heard the cult followers claim that nothing was "wrong" with the Jonestown massacre too. I was just see the forced poisoning of children the wrong way.Get with it. As Barbara to try to write you something more convincing, less full of holes and a little less nutty.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @anonymous: Manuel said~Let's pretend for one minute, Abraham is not real, and Esther does not channel any entities, and that is all a big lie. Where is the crime? ~In criminal law, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent. The specific legal definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Fraud is a crime, and also a civil law violation. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud, but there have also been fraudulent "discoveries", e.g., in science, to gain prestige rather than immediate monetary gain.A hoax also involves deception, but without the intention of gain or of damaging or depriving the victim.~Enough verifiable evidence has been presented that Ester is a fraud. If you don't like the laws Manuel, then work to change them.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @David Stone1: I've been blessed with the teachings of Abraham for now over 5 years. I have probably spent less than $100 in CD sets before I had an iPad to access their material on Youtube. Meanwhile my life has been blessed spiritually and materially (yes, very much materially). Let's pretend for one minute, Abraham is not real, and Esther does not channel any entities, and that is all a big lie. This big lie has changed my outlook on life and the quality of my life for the better. I know they have done the same for many other people. The change is real and that's what matters. Why would anybody believe that CDs, books and workshop venues don't cost any money. I understand they employ lots of people and they pay hefty amounts in taxes to the government too. Where is the crime? Diseminating information, even a campaign to promote cancer awarenes, cost money. Additionally, Abraham has never claimed that wanting material things is "wrong." In fact they're claim is that "nothing is wrong." The pastor analogy does not apply here.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @anonymous: Roberto, how is it possible to determine a fake or not. A good friend of mine is starting to read their books. Before they found Law of Attraction and Vortex books they got involved in a Stephen Fulton's church. Then jumped into scientology and back to Fulton. Now they claim they can channell. They don't speak like Esther does. But when they come out of the trance they have messages they claim from dead people. Some of the messages they come out of the trance are similar stuff to the scientology stuff. Dave indicated that everyone has this ability. Do they really? They are also using spiritual healing. Nothing makes sense.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @David Stone1: I am having a hard time with this concept of people channelling or talking to dead people. Are you familiar with Rev. Stephen Fulton? I am not liking him much. I know someone who is involved with this Rev. Fulton's group. Have been for about 9 months. They recently starting buying the books by Deepak Chopra, Jerry and Esther, Jane Roberts and David Bach. They have dabbled some with the scientology gang.

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      David Stone 6 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Everyone, Jazz. We're all connect to "spirit," for lack of a better word. Some call it intuition, but only a few people a funky voice and go barefoot on stage to sell their version of wisdom.As for Esther Hicks, if her followers were not so poorly educated, they would waste twenty minutes mesmerized by her shallow, sophomoric presentation, a meshing of the deep insights of other and her and Jerry's (mostly Jerry's) world view.Esther Hicks is about as original as buttered toast in a roadside coffee shop.

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      David Stone 6 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Yes, Jazz, there was an article in 2005 when Esther and Jerry allowed a single interview to a British paper because they were seeking publicity before taking their road show across the Atlantic. They spoke out honestly for a change and looked like clowns, Jerry revealing that Esther was his fifth wife (as far as he could remember, he joked), for example, and no they are not a charity or a registered religion, just a spiritual business idea. It was a joke.They do, however, except tithes from passionate followers, although they say they discourage it. No explanation of why they don't just refuse the money, but anyone who knows them can guess at that one. They were also very clear that they do not support charitable giving because each person should simply use the law of attract to take care of their own needs.Brother, can you spare a dime?

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @anonymous: @clarity... I found you offensive. My comments are meant for Dave and Roberto.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @anonymous: I get that this is a business. Even if it is to me not very tangible, I am interested. I would like to know how someone would be able to tell if someone could really channell or not? There are some well known people who claim to channel out there: Esther Hicks, Diandra, John Edward, Jane Roberts. Now Lady Gaga is claiming to channell. I understand that it is a part of many belief systems such as shamanism, Candom, Voodoo and others. There are supposedly two types of channelling; voice and trance. What determines who can channell and if they will do so by spoken word (voice) or trance? Supposedly, this isn't a multiple personality syndrome, but that of a freewill choice for the channeller to allow a connection. I also understand that their is a belief that anyone can channel and that there are different dimeminsions to the consciousness. I realize that channelling is subjective and therefore difficult to research. It is fascinating to me, even though I don't fully understand how it works or how it is that people come to be a medium. I would like to understand why people go to or follow channels in the 21st century. I realize you may not have the answers to my questions. These are the things I would like to know about channelling.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @anonymous: Jazz...is English not your first language? Or do you just not process what is being written?Or maybe just another sock puppet come to visit.You guys crack me up.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @David Stone1: Are there any valid channelers? If so who are they?

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      @anonymous: I am happy you gave the waitress in San Francisico something for doing a good job. Times are hard all over.