I don't know what made me believe in Jesus christ.. but as far as I know it is intrinsic truth and tradition that we all are Jesus's Child made me believe in jesus Christ..
Knowing that he loves me with all my faults. People will turn away from you, disown you, hurt you, trash you, judge you, abuse you and are non-forgiving. Not Christ!
Earnest, you must feel very special about turning this whole conversation about "how you found Jesus" to "how to answer Earnest"....it makes you the most important person on here...doesn't it? We can't just ignore you, can we...? Or maybe we don't want to ignore you...Wonderfully, that is how God feels about you...or wait, I am putting words in His mouth...maybe He does want to ignore you...Has He? Look back and think about that...is the reason you have turned your back on Him, is because He has ignored you? Like the little children starving...Maybe He has ignored you since you were a Little Starving Child that only wants to be fed. I know how you feel then...I have a Little Child inside too, that did not realize it was still angry...angry because I was not given the food I needed.
What made you choose to believe in Jesus Christ?
Hi friends
I believe in Jesus only as a human being not any kind of god or part of any Trinity. Jesus was a Messenger and Prophet of God in the same sense as was Noah or Jonah or Adam. He himself told that he was son of Adam or son of Man. He also told that he would show a sign of Jonah; that makes him a man as Jonah was a man not a god. If Jesus would have claimed to be god literally, then he would have shown sings of a god not sign of Jonah. Jesus did not create any new moon or any new sun or any new Earths; everything remained like before, so Jesus could not be a god; it is simply a misunderstanding of our Christians friends.
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
I did not choose to believe in Jesus on my own. The Holy Spirit created faith in my heart through my baptism into God's family on April 24,1950. I was one month old. That faith has been nourished over the years through the Word.
I was raised in a strong Lutheran family. I went to Lutheran schools all my life. I am so thankful for that. I was taught the word of God from childhood. It has been a comfort to me in many trials, but it is also the joy of my life. It is freedom from sin and the fear of death. I wake each morning to serve the Lord in all that I say and do. Because I am a sinner, I fail sometimes, but I can go to the foot of the cross in contrition and know that I am forgiven through Jesus.
I am sure of my salvation when I die, therefore there is not fear of death and there is the confidence also that I will see loved ones who have gone before me in Christ.
Hi friends Kristeen
It is good that you are a believer; but your faith is blind faith which is no faith. Please build your faith on reason; that is the faith Jesus had; he had no blind faith as he was not blind.
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned by Quran
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
paasurrey,
I do not have blind faith. I know exactly who/what I believe in. My faith is built on Jesus and his blood and righteousness.
Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see...(Hebrews 11:1)
My human reason and that of other humans fails me many times. Why would I want to count on that? I will count on God who never changes.
Thank you anyway.
Kristeen
Hi Kristeen, I also grew up in a Lutheran family...but that is not how I came to know Jesus...It is amazing how there are so many paths that we all take...scriptures say "I will draw ALL men unto me"...it also says "jesus, said, "as many as You give to me will come to me".
Those of us who have come to Jesus can be thankful...It took the Holy Ghost, situations, prayers...and who knows whatever methods He used. Every story is different and precious and meaningful.
It is funny how non-believers want to talk us out of our infantile appearing faith...I would not want to ever live without Him again. You know how it says "that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor any principality can separate us from the Love of God"...why would anyone want to give that up? and even if we ever came to wanting it, we already have the promise that NOTHING can separate us.
You know, my husband and I both lost our jobs over a year ago, we lost our house, too....and yet none of that stops me from believing that God loves me.
Enlydia,
It is so encouraging to hear from fellow believers. I find myself feeling sad for those who don't believe because they are missing so much joy and they have nothing to look forward to. For them this life is all there is.
Thanks for sharing with me. You and your husband will be in my prayers. God knows each of us by name and he loves each of us as if we were his only child. He will take care of you.
Now - that is interesting. Let me make sure I get this right? I don't believe in Jesus - so God won't be judging me and letting me live in bliss and everlasting joy. This life is all there is for me.
You are special because you believe in Jesus. Me? not so special - don't get to live forever.
God only cares about you and knows your name, because you say you believe in Jesus. But I won't live forever like you will. That right?
Since you asked, let me see if I can help you out. It is readily apparent from your forum postings that you do not believe in Jesus Christ. That statement would be right.
However, it is my understanding of the Christian beliefs that God will be judging everyone whether they believe in His existence or not. The outcome of that judgment is contingent upon your beliefs.
If in your comment of - letting me live in bliss and everlasting joy - you are referring to eternal life in heaven with God, then He has the same expectations of you that He has for everyone else. If you want the reward that God is offering then you have to recognize and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior. It's your choice. How you choose is what determines the outcome. Choose wisely.
God cares about you whether you choose to accept his gift of salvation through Jesus Christ or not. Whether you live forever with God in heaven or not, is yet to be determined. You still have the opportunity to change your mind and make a different choice. It is completely up to you.
I was not asking you. I am well aware of your cookie cutter "my way or the highway," interpretation - pretty normal huh? I guess what? 40% of you guys believe this version?
Not really interested in the implied threat of telling me to "choose wisely" - because you clearly do not know what you are talking about, and really - it is threats from people like you that persuaded me to stop believing this garbage in the first place.
But - thanks for the input.
I was asking the person I addressed my question to - who clearly thinks something different to what you think.
I always appreciate your comments Mark. In this case you responded exactly as I expected you would.
I apologize for infringing in your conversation on a public forum. I thought the whole idea behind a forum like this was to allow each individual the opportunity to share their perspective.
Would you please explain to my why you think the statement "choose wisely" is a threat?
Also, would you please explain why you don't think I know what I am talking about?
So - no implied threat here then?
Choose wisely was not attached to a threat.
LOLOL
Deary me.
The only intended implication was that you have a choice. The same one available to every human on earth.
Yes - my choice is to Believe or Burn.
But - now you are actively lying. You have threatened me with eternal torment - and are denying that this is a threat.
Thank you for reminding me why I originally made the choice I made: People who lie and threaten in the Name of The Lord.
You convinced me it is all garbage.
Will God punish you the same way he punished the snake?
You are bitter and twisted Mark, I hope you get over your hatred and smell the coffee, it's sad that your record runs in one track constantly.
You can never change things by your scorn and smart mouth.
John
More threats? Dear me. "smell the coffee"? - A little on the acidic side for me. Sorry. What is that roast called again?
"Jesus' Bitter and Twisted Blend"?
I will continue to be scornful of your threats of eternal damnation and remind you once again that is it people like you forcing churchianity on me that convinced me it is nonsense.
Believe or Burn!!!!!
So the same question for you.
Will God punish you the same way he punished the snake?
NO God loves all people. He doesn't wish for anyone to go to hell. Thats why he sent his son (Jesus) to us. He lived a perfect life with out sin. When we celebrate lent which is the season we are in now we are remembering Christ's sacrifice for us. As God's Son he suffered and died on the cross and took the punishments we deserve for our sin upon himself and gave us his holiness. Through faith in Jesus we are blameless in God's signt. It is a gift for all people. We are all sinners and without faith in Jesus we will go to hell when we die. Jesus died for you too. He wants you to be in heaven and it doesn't depend on what you do. Faith comes from hearing the message and the message is heard through the word of Christ. Pick up your Bible and start reading it. You will be surprised.The Holy spirit creates faith in our hearts through God's word.
God will judge all people, but the judgement doesn't depend on what we believe, but whether we have faith. It's more than me saying I believe.
I have written several hubs that help explain this all. Feel free to check them out.
Hope this helps!
Kristeen
So - I have to believe the same you believe - otherwise I go to hell? That right?
When you said:
You were lying? This life is not all there is. I am going to be judged - found wanting - and sent to hell. That right?
But - feel free to speak for yourself. I have no guilt and did not sin. I am sinless.
As well - Jesus only came to save those that believe in him right? So - it is sort of like blackmail. Believe - good to go. Don't believe - burn in hell.
So - there are conditions attached. He only came to save those that believe and have faith. Interesting - thanks.
Of course there are conditions...
John 3 15-19
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Oh, and Mr Sinless Mark....
Glad to know you have NEVER made any error!
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; except Mark Knowles who is perfection personified, long may he sell coffee machines.
Thanks. I recognize no god - therefore I am sinless. I am sure I have made many errors though - depending on your perspective.
Mark, have you any idea how looney toons that sounds?
Sin is simply missing the mark (sorry, no pun intended) and is a term that comes from archery...
Maybe you associate sin with guilt, which you have possibly trained yourself to never feel, which I understand, been there, done it, got the 'T' Shirt, it's what is called a 'seared conscience'and many folk develop it to handle how they deal with their 'guilty' actions... believers simply confess their sin and know in any case that guilt comes from Satan, God never makes us feel guilty, He convicts us of our sin.
As you recognise no god, then you become your own god, and I guess your own god sees things your way.
That's nice...
No Daddy. I see this is a difficult concept for you. So I will go slow.
Sin is an offense against god.
There is no god.
Therefore I am sinless.
Capiche?
I recognize no god - which includes me. My life does not need a god.
But - I see yours does and I know you have broken your covenant with your god and are therefore a sinner. Still - I am sure you can interpret your book to make sure you get away with it and are forgiven or whatever. Good for you. Jesus would be proud. Or Satan. Whichever one is in charge of causing ill-will.
"There is no god." - Or at least you hope there is not any God!
and sin is what we humans do quite naturally, God or no god, we all still make mistakes and sin against people.
Yes I believe that all sin is against God alone, even if you refuse to acknowledge it, so be it.
As for my sinning, thankfully Christ interceded for me and humanity, and I am hidden in Him.
I don't aim to be sinless, just to sin less, and repent earlier than I used to.
You really cannot understand a forgiving God whose Mercy triumphs over Justice can you, I would guess you had a too strict religious upbringing by a member of Churchianity.
Try finding the real Christ one day, you would be surprised if you ever met with Him.
'As for my sinning, thankfully Christ interceded for me and humanity, and I am hidden in Him.'
So you're hiding?
How appropriate!
Sin, Man ! Christ is there to cover your back !
Hi Agua !
Hi Tantrum,
Twisting words again.... tut tut!
Hidden as in 'under the wing' as in God sees Christ's righteousness which is attributed to the believer, not the believers sin...
But why bother, your team are always just looking to snipe at Christ.
I'm hardly in the forums now, too busy elsewhere!
Take care,
John
Aww - that was the best condescending you have done yet. Well done. Still don't get it do you Daddy? never mind - I see you get to sin and be forgiven though - good for you. I knew that would be the case. No - there is no god. You are convincing me of that every single time you say anything.
Thanks.
Churchianity? You mean asking why atheists are afraid to deny the holy spirit? And telling people they "hope there is no god" with an implied threat?
That sort of churchianity?
night night
Sweet dreams.
Jesus came to save all people, but some like you, reject him. We are all sinners. The Apostle Paul tells us in Romans 3:22,23 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
There is no one who is perfect other than God. He created us perfect in his image, but when Eve disobeyed God and ate from the tree God had commanded her not to eat from she and all humans after her became sinners.
It is sad for you that you recognize no god. You will meet God the day he calls you out of this earth. One thing we all face is death someday. The angels are crying for you too just like they rejoice each time someone comes to faith. Sad...
Kristeen
OH PPlleeaaassseeee !!!!!
Not again!
'It is sad for you that you recognize no god. You will meet God the day he calls you out of this earth. One thing we all face is death someday. The angels are crying for you too just like they rejoice each time someone comes to faith. Sad...
Kristeen'
We all make our own choices. I am happy with mine. I am done with this conversation.
Sure !
So don't tell me Angels are crying for us, sinners.
Keep that foolishness for yourself.
I will kindly appreciate it !
I applaud your efforts Kristeen. You took on a big fish and fought hard. Great job!
Well - I find it sad that you believe this nonsense and are actually threatening me in the name of this invisible nonentity. I really do pity you. The ill-will you generate from these threats does and is spreading around the world as you speak it. Read any history book to see this has been true since the first bible thumper picked up a sword.
Yes - I pity you. You are missing out on the joy of life. Instead prefer to spread this hatred.
Jesus came to save everyone. But only if.....................
I would go with - pathetic. Yes - you already threatened me and I choose not to believe in your threat. Is that sad? I guess so. Sorry - not buying your threat.
ciao hater.
I guess I'm going to be the only one to admit the truth here.
I was never given the choice not to believe. It is just the way I was raised. Too not believe? That's too scary for me.
It is simply all I have ever known.
For that reason alone, I'm glad I gave my sons the freedom of choice. Sometimes I think they made a wiser choice. One is Agnostic, and one is a very proud Atheist. Ironically, they are better people than I am. They have nothing to lean on as an excuse for bad behavior, or ill spoken words. They hold themselves accountable. I envy them on that score.
I chose God and Jesus, because I was simply raised that way.
That is the first genuinely honest answer. Good for you.
Yeah, thanks Mark. As you know- us Christians have a hard time admitting the truth. Pretty ironic, if you ask me.
IntimatEvolution,
Your sons may only be accountable to themselves now, but the day will come when they will have to give an account to God
Kristeen
Mark, have you ever believed in any form of a stereo-typical religion?
I bet you get asked that all the time. However, if you wouldn't mine repeating yourself, I'd like to know.
Of course. I went to church boarding school and my Grandfather was a very high ranking verger of the high church in the UK.
I studied the bible (and other tomes including the Torah) intensively and extensively, and like you - I was expected to believe. But - "You need to have faith," was never a good enough answer for me, and let's face it - a lot of so-called believers leave a lot to be desired behavior wise.
I eventually came to the conclusion that they do not actually believe. I mean - If I genuinely believed I was going to burn in hell - I would never consider breaking any rules. But - they break them all the time. Ergo - they do not actually believe and are more concerned with making sure you follow the rules than following them themselves.
Plus - if you look a little deeper - you can find where all this nonsense comes from - and it ain't from no God.
The roots of our belief system are more about political control.
Be a good sheeple - consume and make babies and don't rock the boat.
Thank you. I had a strong sense that your personal decision, was a well educated one.
Good for you. As for myself, I'm a fideist. I believe, because I have too. Having faith in God is second nature to me. To live my life without, would be like gasping for air underwater.
As you know, I genuinely admire folks who can make educated decisions for themselves. I do. Furthermore, there are some stories about Jesus and God, that I don't believe. It has taken me along time to finally question some of "god's" so called mysteries. For example, like last week's Noah thread.
Kristeen...thanks for your prayers...I appreciate it very much..."I know that everything works together for good"...I hope to see more of you around here on the Hub...and welcome.
I started on here over a year ago...wrote a bunch of hubs and then deleted and now I come back every once in a while to look at stuff...I read your profile...I think that is great...I wish there was something around here that I could do like that.
I am a nurse and certified reflexologist...and still can't find a job.
I chose to believe in Jesus Christ because after close examination of all the evidence I came to the conclusion that the nature of man requires a Savior. I believe that the order of nature on this planet is too precisely calculated to have happened by random order of selection. Therefore, I choose to believe in a Creator, in this case God. As a result of our behavior we have separated ourselves from God's presence. God in his infinite wisdom foresaw the separation of man from His original plan. Since the day of creation He has given us a plan of redemption to draw us back into a loving relationship with Him. That plan necessitated a Savior to atone for our behavior. Jesus was that Savior.
Hate to burst your bubble there, but given ample amounts of time, any random event can lead to another random event, and then another, and another...
Many random events over billions of years can lead to something, in the case of earth, it led to our existence.
In other words, we are simply the result of random events that occurred over billions of years with no calculations whatsoever.
I'm assuming you believe the world was made for us, when in fact we are simply a result of the worlds evolution of events.
While I can appreciate your choosing to believe what you do, I choose to believe in a Creator.
Yes, I know, I was just explaining how it actually happened.
Well, if you know how it actually happened, and I know how it actually happened, how is it that we have come to different conclusions?
Believers alone come to about 3,000 different conclusions, all from the same source!
The main reason anyone believes in Jesus is passion. I would love to see an argument on this.
Reading your family history, made me realise why you call me daddy Mark... your 'daddy' was a minister huh!
But you got it right, you hold the arrogant belief that God would not create a whole universe just for us.
I don't do any 'converting' certainly not to anyone called Jeebus, that's the work of the Holy Spirit.
If He ever decides to meet with you, you would know what I mean.
Meanwhile He seems to send a multitude of folk to my pages to read what I write, but of course I have not sold even on coffee machine from them...
John
No Daddy. I refer to you as Daddy because you speak to people as though they were a child.
You know - condescending.
Whereas you are simply rude and offensive...
John
The truth is offensive? Interesting how that works.
I don't believe the universe was created for us, either, but rather quite the opposite.
Mark, dig up that old atheist bus picture. Do you remember that one? I really enjoyed that photo. It makes me laugh at myself.
I did not intend to come in here, I will not be back.
But I want to say, I have believed all my life (as long as I can remember, anyway) and there is nothing that can change my mind.
Just looking for the same manners, in which you ask of us.
Why? Because you expect it of us. The real question is...,
Are you stalking me?
Come to think of it, you are.
Jealous?
I understand why.
I'm so done with you. You are........?
Pointless really.
Do Tantrum, say something pointless... It is what you do best.
From one of your so called "foolish" fellow hubbers.
Glad we agree on the fact that you are.....,
What's that?
Pointless really. All pointless.
Again, from a fellow "foolish" hubber.
Got anymore personal slams, stalker?
Pointless indeed.
If that makes you happy !
There you go stalking again, just to be aggressive and hateful.
Are you aware that Hubpages frowns on aggressive stalkers?
Yes, I know! That's why I'm not aggressive nor hateful. What about you ?
It's obvious that you're doing the impossible to get me banned.
I'm sorry for you !Maybe you have too many problems in your life !
I will go now.
Your actions speak for themselves, Tantrum. Now quit stalking me. You have a serious problem.
what led me 2 Jesus is the fact that i was abused during childhood. additionally, i had unusually hard times as a young adult that eventually drove me toward the Loving Arms of Jesus. i learned that He alone was perfect, & if i turned 2 Him, He'd give me a bright future, & put me 2 rest from ALL my enemies
Never is such hate and venom unleashed as in a religious forum. However, I have noticed one thing. Those who condemn God the most are actually seeking God. They are looking for answers that will ease their pain. I think an exorcism for some of you might be in order.
In answer to the question, I am turning toward Christianity because of supernatural experiences I have had. These experiences have convinced me that there are spiritual forces at work on this planet, and these forces consist of good and evil. My self-centered pride is keeping me from that leap of faith.
Those of you consumed with anger do not understand what is out there.
So what is out there? Please enlighten us!
That's true, but those are the tenets of those religions who produce the hate and venom. What is a poor boy to do when he's bombarded by the hate and venom of many gods who threaten eternal damnation?
Been a church goer all my life, but it was and is still is life's many challenges that have strengthened my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
I have always believed in God because I was raised by a God loving family.
Because he gave the world easter eggs!! and Christmas yay!! I love eating easter eggs and getting xmas presents...so yay to Jesus in the stories!
I can't quite explain it. It more seems as though he chose me... I had actually grown up with a great deal of spite for christianity (and still do, sorry) because of the hypocracy that existed. For a good example, just view half of these forums.
Back on to the topic, I had decided to go on my own spiritual quest, as I never denied the existence of a higher power. Just the existence of a doctrine based on common sense. I tried experimenting with pantheism, buddhism, gnosticism, even some of the more... darker systems of belief.
I don't know why I became a christian, it just seems I kept coming back to christianity again and again. It's like jesus came to me, and I couldn't say no any longer. Not in a fear of Jesus kind of way, but in a way where I could finally tell that even if every "believer" on the planet hated me, Jesus would love me regardless, and I was able to seperate the sheep from the shepard.
When I made the decision my parents were furious with me and kicked me out of their house (I was fourteen at the time). And I still find myself at odds with a lot of Christians, but by the grace of God, I am here.
I can relate with that. There is a spiritual, unknown reality that we are passing through. I think that somewhere in there the "God" concept has arisen. This is the only light that I see in this world.
I want all of that they will let me have.
I think that over there someplace is a man named Jesus.
Maybe, maybe not. Somebody may have gotten his name wrong; but we all know who I'm talking about. I know he does.
The religiosity part that denominationalism has created; Everyone else can have.
Well I was a Muslim for 18 years of my life, and have been a Christian for 2 years. What really drew me in was being able to know where I am going and how prayer is similar to a conversation, where God actually answers, as I found he did not in Islam. Obviously this is not the full testimony, it was a little more complicated
Being a Christian is not an easy thing. In fact it has been the 2 hardest years of my life, but with his love and grace, I have found the freedom to doubt, and make mistakes and yet be loved and brought back to Him. And no, if I was reading this 2 years ago I would not believe it either- I would consider them lies and total rubbish, but hey as soon as something as big as God touches your life- you are bound to change. Thanks for reading
God bless
What made you choose to believe in Jesus Christ?
Hi friends
I think the question is not formulated correctly. Jesus came 2010 years before; the Creator- God Allah YHWH chose him as a Prophet, so we have to believe in as such. There is no choice; we believe in him willingly and we must.
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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