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   Manjunath7472posted 8 years ago

   Religion is a key for unity and politics to puppetize group of people in particular region for growth and sustainability of that region.
   
   No one follows a religious scripture 100% in any religion but it is misused more often everywhere for to conquer other region.
   
   If people follow their religious scripture 100 %, half of the world population would have been dead by this time.
   
   Basic examples like
   
   Bible | Exodus
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   Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.
   
   Quran | unveiling is haram (a sin of the highest decree) and many.
   
   Hindu Scriptures has many more.
   
   So, my point is.. No one is right or wrong.
   Its all about humanity..Help how much you can to others even enemies and tell them help others as well and let nations help each other and form common religion called humanity.
   
   Respect each other, Work together, Grow stronger.
   
   Certainly there is something out there, something powerfull !!!
   Let's wait and watch until then keep peace..

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      another ridiculous NON -CHRISTIAN diatribe that has no place in this section

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen!

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      Manjunath7472posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Charlie and Williams
      
      There you go!! Anger!! Ego!! coz am not christian.
      Jesus taught us about love, peace and Love your neighbor as yourself.
      Am talking about humanity.So, religion doesn't matter..
      Ru following bible 100%?

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      KingdomComeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Manjunath7472- It's people like you who take scripture out of context. Jesus called the Pharisee, sons of hell, fools, vipers and hypocrates because of their worthless and false traditions, but he still loved them and died for them.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      MJ: Why do u "think" JESUS is ALL "love?"  Why is  there a HELL, if so?
      Once one has "WAITED" (Acts 1:4) for the POWER (Acts 1:8) as "commanded," been FILLED w/the Holy Spirit & BELIEVE on HIS WORD AFTER ASCENSION, "RIGHTEOUS by FAITH" (Rm1:17)!

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Very interesting. Truly a view worth contemplating.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      JAY C O'BRIEN: Do u believe there's a heaven?  If so, you probably believe there's a HELL!  If so, DOES that sound like a GOD who doesn't KILL? 
      Hubbers GOD will KILL you (after physical death via hell) if u don't do as Gal 1:6-9 (After the Cross)!

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      Manjunath7472posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      KingdomCome-Am not blaming any religion here and ain't anti christ.Am just talking about human values and not religious values.When ur hospitalized and needs blood, u may not wait for only christian blood. So, human values first !! religion next !!

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      FOOL!  GOD left WORD!
      OT "fulfilled!"
      GOD (Spirit) FIRST! Flesh NOTHING!
      Eternal life is what IT'S all about!
      There is "Something out there" & IF u don't believe Scripture, LOST!
      Respect "wrong" r against WORD? NEVER (Ps 139:21-22)!

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       Manjunath7472posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       OK people !!
       In the name of religion all religious fools will kill other religion fools and get killed after all we are just animals with flesh and extra brain to write all these holy scriptures and puppetize people. Hav fun !! Amen!

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       You "have fun" in HELL!  I didn't say IT!  "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the NAME of the only begotten Son of GOD" (Jn 3:18)!
       Where does that leave you?

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       Manjunath7472posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Ok Norine Williams, we'll meet soon after judgment day before the entrance gate of heaven & Hell.You take left and i take right but plz get me beer case and an i Pad loaded with latest action movies while coming to relax after each punishment:)

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Satan ALWAYS "joins the party" w/o invitation (Job 1:6)! 
       U & Satan go on to the "right" side (Is 5:20)! 
       Have "fun!"
       Blessed Hill:  U think this kind I don't "hate?"  But I pray (Bless) for his soul!

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       Manjunath7472posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Which way is hell?? Right side is it?? okies!! You r very clear about directions too.!! Wow!! You're a heck of a guy!! Tell me what are the facilities provided in christian heaven and the draw backs of muslim or  Hindu or any other heaven??

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       U'll find out!
       Hindu uses other means than HOLY SPIRIT for peace, joy, etc Muslim worship Prophet Muhammad!  Worship idols & other gods! 
       They'll see u there too!
       Y'all have "fun" w/all that peace,joy,happiness!

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       Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Manju Christ has saved us fr sin, open ur heart to him, sans malice n pride, He will reveal to u, in His 'word'
       Of 'true faith' leading 2 ur salvation, urs n mine 4 Christ is above all religion. In 'true faith' u r freed fr any law of
       sin n curses.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Ed: U need to "open ur heart" to the Bk of Hebrews!  JESUS (aka Holy Spirit) spoke thru Paul & said "ACCURSED" bcuz that's how IMPORTANT "The Gospel of Christ" is to HIM & u defy!

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       Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Marju n ol Prot n d astray Christ is d light of truth, in ur spirit u may feel as u open ur heart to d HS. Darkness can keep us in wrong path, but d cleansing of sins is in Christ blood, d H Euch. If u fail 2 renew, d light is not in u.Renew n b holy

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       "Darkness can keep us in wrong path, but d cleansing of sins is in Christ blood, d H Euch." Defy Heb & u r "in wrong path! "H Euch" is "ritual!" U defy Scripture w/"man-made" doctrine!  GOD SEES & u will remb when u "Stand before the judgment

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   cmktkposted 8 years ago

   Let me sum up what all the intelligent answers were...
   I'm right - what you are is up to you
   
   
   (BTW I'm not christian...)

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No person is "right," ONLY the WORD of GOD!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eric you are correct no has the right to judge people as fools but the one who know us inside out. It is unloving as a Christian to call people fools.
      Mathew 5:22 says you will be judge for calling your fellow human a fool.
      How can one miss this .

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Tell Paul that when he wrote Galatians 3:1 calling the Church in Galatia IGNORANT for misinterpreting Scripture! 
      If WORD is given, take it up with GOD because HE "inspired" IT!
      How can you get around that One or did you "miss" II Tim 3:16?

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Wow Norine you really do believe that you are equal with Paul. I am sorry but that would indicate a delusion.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The people here are not Galatians either .Php 4:8 brothers,
      whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things.
      Truth.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: U sit back like "an old vulture" (Scribes/Pharisees) waiting for the kill don't you?  LOL God "SEES" u!  HE has given me the things to say from HIS WORD & u can't "see!" I pray for IGNORANCE!
      Eric:I hope I am (I Cor 11:1)! My family says

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      Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Beza Christ is calling u n all who believe more on human intelligence. Intelligence is a gift fr God meant to be shared in d truth of ur spirit. Let d HS guide u to divine wisdom where 'divine logic' tells us 'true faith' in d light leads 2 salvation

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ed: I am "sharing" what Holy Spirit told me to tell u - READ & BLV Hebrews vs "teachings!" Holy Spirit is WORD & HE "guides" so BELIEVE what "IS WRITTEN!" I didn't put It there! Get upset w/GOD bcuz WORD "tears down" ur "traditions" (Is 28:13

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   niconikkoposted 8 years ago

   I get really confused about beliefs especially those that are contradicting. I realized this when I once pondered on a mentor of mine. He is the type of person that you will feel threatened especially if you don't know him yet. He does all sorts of unethical things that makes you irritated sometimes. But when it comes to talking about faith and spirituality, I find that there is actually no problem with him. In fact, he is a very spiritual person and you will get to admire him once he starts talking and preaching to you. The way he presents Bible verses is unquestionable and is sure to get you hooked. The problem is that he is actually a person that is hated by many people due to his personality. His enemies were also using Bible scriptures as well against him when they post in Facebook. The reason I think is for them to attract and gain support from fellow friends and therefore help spread the word of my mentor's wrong doings.
   
   Bottomline: It turns out that the Bible can be used to your favor in many different ways.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting perspective. I see where you are coming from and it is worth thinking about.

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      celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      why in the world  would you want a mentor that does all sorts of unethical things?      It sounds like his "enemies" as you call them,  probably are correct and following scripture to expose and stay away from him as he WILL  lead youastray.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Unethical" is in eye of beholder! Hubbers believe I'm "unethical!" II Cor 11:6! TRUTH hurts!
      If from Bible, you should ask the Holy Spirit to "guide you into TRUTH!"  Listen, but "Search Scripture!" 
      If "hated by many ppl" GOD says OK (Jn 15:18)!

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Unethical" is in eye of beholder!  I'm "uneth" to Hubbers since against their "TWISTED" beliefs! If WORD given, "Search Scripture" asking Holy Spirit to "lead & guide" to TRUTH! If "hated" must be right in sight of GOD (Jn 15:18)!
      Eric GOD "SEES

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      Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen niko If the light is in you u will feel God's embrace. D HS will guide u to His light, to 'true faith' where u become 1 with God in Christ through God's covenant w us in His blood, d Holy Eucharist is meant 2 unite ol Christ blvrs 2 love n mercy

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      U are really "hung up" on "traditions" (Holy Euc)! There's NOTHING we can "DO" to receive Salv (Eph 2:8-9) "Lest any man should boast!"
      CHRIST HAS DONE IT ALL (GRACE) & HATES defiance of HIS WORD (I Cor 10:20; 11:20)! DO NOT EAT THE LORD'S SUPPE

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   Joelipooposted 8 years ago

   For anyone to truly broadcast the attitude of "I am right and you are wrong" is unhealthy, regardless of being a Christian or not. That haughty attitude is very off-putting. As Christians, we are called to love God first and our neighbors second. We are not called to judge one another, seeing as that is for God to do. If I live my life the way God commands me to, God's love should shine through in my life. I shouldn't have to tell someone their life is being lived the wrong way.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Really a good answer. And you are right the question can apply to all of life.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Joe: Are we not to "correct" our kids if we "LOVE?" Same w/believers! GOD (WORD) is RIGHT "ONLY" not me or u! "God commands" us to live "AFTER THE CROSS" or "ACCURSED" (Gal 1:6-9)! & I didn't write IT!

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 8 years ago

   They can claim it is the only correct one for them - but no one else.  God speaks to me through His Word.  I have no idea what He says to anybody else.  The reverse of that, of course, is that you can't tell me I'm wrong either.  You can disagree though.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Kathleen, I like that comment, it reminds me that the real basis of Christianity is not dogma or doctrine but rather our personal relationship. And it would not be personal if all were exactly the same.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil 2:5)! What does this mean, "love?"  NOPE! "ALL" WORD is GOD'S MIND! HE says the same to "ALL!" Either we "interpret" or allow HS do HIS job! WORD (HS) doesn't "disagree" w/SELF!

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   Blessed Hillposted 8 years ago

   I agree, when I received Christ at 13 the "right"  thing for me as far as my faith was concerned to do was believe in Jesus, read my bible and go to church. That was as far as my revelation of truth went. But the more I walked in that revelation of truth the more the Holy Spirit lead me into truth. Did I always walk in truth? No! I screwed up heaps but His grace is big enough every time to pick me up, dust me off and set me in the way again. The bible is the ETERNAL LIVING TRUTH of God. All of that truth is available to us right now, doesn't mean walk in it straight away.
   As we walk in fellowship with God and develop our relationship with Him based upon His truth we get a deeper and larger revelation of His truth. Until you or I walk in all the truth of God we are not qualified to judge someone else and tell them that they are wrong and I/you are right.
   Doesn't Jesus say in John 16:8 "And when He(the Holy Spirit) has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment"
   Didn't John the apostle say that the world will know that we are followers of Christ by the love we express and show fellow believer's. Jesus being Gods expression of Grace set us free from the law of sin and death. So to be a follower of Christ means to be a follower or agent/ambassador of Grace. If you or I preach any other gospel than the gospel of Christ/Grace we are Anti-Christ/anti-Grace.
   Scripture is the grace and love of God expressed through the person Jesus Christ (the Word made flesh). So if the Word of God is His greatest expression of love and grace why on God's beautiful green earth are so called believer's using it to beat people up-side the head with it, preaching guilt and condemnation with the Word that has set us free from all of that. Just because you know what the Word says does not give you any power or authority to call someone, who God created, accursed! Who do you think you are? Jesus died and paid for every persons sin and has set us free from the CURSE of the law.
   If you have been saved by Grace then Corinthians says to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. The Holy Spirit inside you will reveal the magnitude of the GIFT of Grace you have received and it's your responsibility to walk in that truth.
   Bible also says that the work God starts in us He will bring to completion.
   Scripture is given for YOU to walk in, not to be wielded like a club to bludgeon people into obeisance.
   The Grace and peace of God be upon all

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That is really well said. Yours is a very valid viewpoint.

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      Blessed Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eric - thank you for your truthful and level headed approach to God's Word. My heart breaks as I'm sure the Lord's does too when the people He died for bicker and argue over interpretation of doctrine. We are to unite in faith not doctrine.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      BH: The "Gospel of Christ" DID NOT BEGIN until *"AFTER THE CROSS!" "Fellow believers" are *those & who oppose are "ACCURSED" or "anti-Christ" (Gal 1:6-9)!
      I DIDN'T write IT!
      Stop looking @ Paul as "just a man," for he was JESUS talking, or "ACCUR

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      Blessed Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Nor: If Paul is "not just a man but Jesus talking" then so is every believer that is filled with the Holy Spirit. Which means you need 2 listen 2 and consider what evry believer has to say if that is your viewpoint. u were accursed till u believed

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You're RIGHT! I was "ACCURSED!" 
      If their holy spirit does not align w/WORD, they're ONLY "testing the spirits!"
      If they don't believe in NEW COVENANT, we live AFTER Acts 2, we are saved by GRACE thru FAITH, they should "GO BACK!"

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine are you a follower of the ACM movement?

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      GOD won't let you "leave me alone" will HE?  You need to humble yourself and let GOD do HIS job in your life which will benefit generations to come in your family! 
      I had to google!
      NOPE! I'm a member of the JESUS MOVEMENT!

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      What are you talking about Nor? Look at the question -- I am the one who asked it and you come here and suggest I am following you? You are amazing.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NO! You asked me to "leave you alone" & I was saying "GOD won't let you be left alone" will HE?  Heb 12:11 "Now no chastening for the present seem joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness.."FM

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       Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       B Hill If faith in doctrine aligns w d 'word' then doctrine of 'true faith' lives in d light of truth. If u judge 4 self interest d light escapes u, when Mammon rules u not d Spirit n truth in Christ. Feel d light n feel Christ in u n remain in Him.B

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       "if u judge 4 self interest d light escapes u, when Mammon rules u not d Spirit n truth in Christ." Tell the Catholic Faith that for I don't make a dime! I don't judge, WORD does!
       I'm telling u, You are involved w/FALSE DOCTRINE! 
       I pray!

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   cam8510posted 8 years ago

   Eric, great question.  It has taken me a while to finally join in the discussion here.  There were serious disagreements about the interpretation of scripture at the very beginning of the Church. 
   
   Paul and Peter went round and round about what to require of gentile converts.  Both could not have been right.  If one could have been wrong, then they both could have been wrong.  The Bible can be absolutely true down to the crossing of the t's and the dotting of the i's, but that would not answer the question of interpretation which you have raised. 
   
   The New Testament tells us that the Spirit of God instructs us and that we have no need of  a teacher.  It balances that statement with other references to the need for being taught by others. 
   
   All of this should prepare us to expect differences of interpretation.  Faith in the God of the Bible must not be confused with faith in one's own understanding of that God.  He is who he is regardless of the beliefs we distill from the words of scripture. 
   
   Humility is the key.  Hold strongly to the God of your faith.  Hold loosely to the tenets that are the result of human interpretations of sacred texts.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Men "interpret" but the Holy Spirit "reveals" TRUTH! 
      If Scripture says HS will "lead & guide us into ALL TRUTH," it is commanded of us to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for HIS assistance then we would have Faith in SAME "ONE MIND" (JESUS) & not "DIFFER

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      KingdomComeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Christ is and will alway be our TEACHER through the Holy Spirit.  Read John 16:14 (NKJV) He will glorify Me, for He will take what is Mine and "DECLARE" IT TO YOU.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&C and Norine, is it possible for the Holy Spirit to talk to us all differently, as he did to Peter and Paul? If your answer is no, then you two are lost causes.

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      KingdomComeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eric- If you truely want to seek truth, then you have a lot to learn.
      
      Have a good day.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hmm, let us see -- K&C and Norine both think they are guided by the Holy Spirit yet they are divided in their understanding. So either they are guided differently, one is not guided or both are not guided. You decide.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eric, read Acts 11! HS (aka JESUS) "revealed" circumcision to Peter too! Not "differently" but as our FAITH allows! If we "block" HE will not "reveal!" Why we MUST stay "OPEN" not throw n trash or delete! If so, "meat too strong" & Jn 16:12-15!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Romans 9:16 it depends on God the owner of his messa
      1Cor 3:6-7 is clear that niether the one that plants or water.
      But it is God who makes it grow.
      The message in the letter is Gods word
      That makes disciples. We are just carriers that deliver

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, BUT we MUST "plant the seed!" 
      Now get busy!
      Stop "running" when one questions your belief & do as I Peter 3:15 say "Give an answer to EVERY MAN that askethu a reason of the hope that is in you" or will u cont to listen to "Miller?"

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      Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NW I dont give two boots to what you r saying, there is no 'Burden of proof" here, this is not a criminal trial.If u dont wanna read it urself-----up to u

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       You will when you "stand before the judgment seat of Christ" and have continued to violate II Kings 17:29-41!
       
       I pray!

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   Gabriel Wilsonposted 8 years ago

   I must say after reading some of the comments on here I'm thinking ''a little unbalanced'' is but too kind.
   I do think that such a clear cut notion of ''I am right and you are wrong'' is not a healthy perspective for any Christian in so far as belief in God and belief in what man has written in the word of God are two different things. Can I believe in God without believing in the words written by man, yes I can, but of course that just inspires those who are a little unbalanced to go fall right of the edge. Makes for some interesting reading all the same albeit a bit scary.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Do you believe? If so, believe 2 Tim 3:16; Jer 31:33;Heb 8:10;10:16; Jn 14:26;16:13;Acts 1:4;8; 2:2;38!  Now you believe in New Covenant & should live under as did the disciples in Acts 2:42!
      If "unbalanced" u're looking as those in Acts 2:13!

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      Gabriel Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine, if I was to take the things you write seriously I would not believe for no other reason than they way you deliver, with very little conviction and all based on hearsay that was and has been written and rewritten by man. Unbalanced, go figure.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      OH! So u are an "Unbeliever?" "Man?" Who can withstand the Hand of GOD (aka Holy Spirit)? Don't "Believe" or you would KNOW - NOBODY! If u don't believe HE will "lead & guide u" into LIES OF "MAN" u r an "Unbeliever!

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      Gabriel Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I rest my case.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Since an Unbeliever, provide a book with as many "fulfilled prophecies" written BEFORE Bible or "I rest my case!"

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      Gabriel Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine you are missing the point here, read what I wrote: Can I believe in God without believing in the words written by man, yes I can. Your quotes were all written by man and to deny that you are off your rocker. No higher power wrote the Bible.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well GOD LIED! II Tim 3:16 says "All Scripture is INSPIRED BY GOD..." and if u blv man inserted that provide a book with as many "fulfilled prophecies" written BEFORE Bible?
      If u blv, u must become as child & BELIEVE "ALL" of HIS WORD or LOST!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      G.O The Heavenly Father is the only one who created human life.
      He feeds us all by providing the earth to produce.
      Matt 5:45 says the truth.
      Answering a prayer does not mean you keep his approval , Judas walked with Jesus but betrayed him.

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thank GOD for Judas for he was "vessel" used in order for JESUS to go the "THE CROSS" & "FULFILL SCRIPTURE!"

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       K&T then lemme ask u a ques. Who do  u think answers a prayer?

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       G.O good question , Matth 7:11 tells the truth. To prove the point.
       Read At Matt4:9 tells us who grants and gives.
       Many think God the Father hear all No!
       Lament 3:44, So your prayer may not pass through.
       Isaiah 59:2 says he refuses to hear you.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       GOD is so "GRACIOUS" HE "RAINS ON THE JUST & UNJUST" (Matt 5:45)! 
       II Kings 17:29-41 SPOKE of those "Serving other gods!"

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       "just and unjust" so Norine u have now resorted to calling all the non christians unjust? Wow!

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Why do u say "*I* call" when I was only quoting what JESUS SAID?
       Do u not believe Bible either?  JESUS was talking in Matt 5:45, not "me!"
       U sound like the "Christians" on HP!

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       jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Gabriel, you cannot win, but you don't need to. That "God" they pray to only exists in their minds.  If a prayer gets answered as they want it to, God was the giver.  If it doesn't get answered they will always find an excuse.  Convenient, eh?

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       "serve other gods?"....Norine, so according to u it is not possible that a person can be a non Christian and still be a righteous and just human being? What is more imp being a christian or being a benevolent and honest human? I want a straight answr

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       How can 1 be "a righteous & just person" yet don't BELIEVE the "CREATOR?" "Rt & just" is NOT "in the eye of the beholder," but is according to what GOD HAS SAID!
       If not fm BIBLE ("inspired WORD of GOD;" II Tm 3:16), NOT "RIGHT!"
       TRUE ANSWER!

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       Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Truly amazing to believe that you know more than God about everything. What do you say about the books of the bible that the Nicene council threw away Norine. Was the council God inspired like you? Or were they political clergy beasts?

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Who "KNOWS MORE THAN GOD?" R u "IGNORANT?" Nicene Council has NOTHING on the HOLY SPIRIT Who tells 1 "ALL THGS!" Did HE not SAY HE would "lead & guide into ALL TRUTH?" I BELIEVE! How about u?

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Jonny  not true .let me apply that statment you made to you.
       If I communicate with you and you do not answer me you dont exist?
       Also consider move ahead thousand of years people , the same words would be said about your existince
       you are real.He is

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Girl Jony "MOCKS" GOD! SATAN n disguise as he puts it he's "impregnated w/demons!" The only x u see him "come out" when TRUTH is coming forth & someone believes; then he comes & "tries" to prevent (Jn 10:10)!
       "Resist the devil&he will fle

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Oh Norine are u that unilluminated? When did johnny ever mock God? Its nothing more than ur glaring ignorance.READ get your history right!U r proving urself nothing more than a misfit

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Keep denying II Kings 17:29-41 & you will find out who the "misfit" is!  If u can't provide "the book" w/as many accurate fulfilled prophecies written BEFORE Bible & deny the "JEALOUS CREATOR, u r the "misfit!"

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       are u that stubborn? I have provided u "that book" with more fufilled prophecies millions of times, u never listen!

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Provide AGAIN w/an "ACCURATE FULFILLED PROPHECY" that is NOT IN BIBLE since there are "MORE!" 
       Prove I'm "STUBBORN!"

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       stubborn=having or showing dogged determination not to change one's attitude, hence proved/ hinc probatur.Read the 12 prime prophecies of Geeta each containing 9973 prophecies in the subset.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Can't Google. Tell me what they say & how fulfilled in this era!

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I am nt your slave norine. Do it urself or forget it

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       jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       "God" has caused bad weather here, power cuts for 36 hrs,  your god is out of control, Norine.  Tell him to get the climate organised or I will be suing him for damages.   You are laughable Norine.  And you too, K&T.

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       gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       jonnycomelately, NW & K&T are in a class by themselves.  They're QUITE UNIQUE ..........in a NEGATIVE way.  Don't encourage them, they AREN'T happy people.  If they were, they wouldn't act the way they do.

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       gmwilliams lol! You forgot your name but I will put it there ! NORINE, KT, GMWILLIAMS
       Are a class of their own .
       Now that's true ! lol, I am rolling you hp hubers keep me laughing but I love you.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       GO:  The "Burden of Proof" is on YOU! YOU STATED IT! OTHERWISE; u LIE!
       K&T:  Ignore "Ignorance" (Unbelievers)! "Resist the devil & he will flee" (Jm 4:7)!

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       jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine, if you can see the devil in me, there is no wonder you cannot ignore me.... must be some sort of fascination with the devil.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I never stalk you or your comments; therefore, it is proven there is fascination of GOD'S WORD from the devil!  He constantly fulfills John 10:10 through whomever (you too Mr. Jony)!  You should recognize him better than u are (spiritually)!

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       KingdomComeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I, too, believe that Alan was spawned by satan

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       Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       This is a bizarre exchange. I have not heard "spawn of devil" in a long time. I thought they only cooked up these notions for low cost movies. I definitely remember some suggesting Christ was of the devil.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Satan is spirit Eric! He enters "anyone" & is why we have to "put on the WHOLE ARMOR of GOD" (WORD) Eph6:11-18 to fight him! I ASK u to STUDY for knowledge & defense!

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       celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       if you dont ignore the Chistian bashers like alan, g.o., etc they will not go away.   if you stop feeding them they we go away.  and of course their great facilitator eric feeds the fires too.  just ignore and delete them

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I like to do what WORD says "GIVE THEM TRUTH" (Lev 19:17) then the "Ball" is back in their court (Ezk 3:18)! 2Pet 2:21 "For it had been better for them not to have known the way  of righteousness, than after they know it, turn from it when delv'd

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       first of all Norine this is not a criminal trial so there is no 'burden of proof on me' secondly the Devil u keep talking about is mostly 'In ur head' maybe memmon,maybe even Balthazzar, AAmon, Agaliarept, botis are also in there somewhere.BEWARE!!

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Let me repeat what I said of Jony: [GO] "MOCKS" GOD! SATAN n disguise & impregnated w/demons! The only x u "come out" is when TRUTH is coming forth & someone believes; then u come & "try" to prevent (Jn 10:10)!
       READ IIKgs17:29-41! I pray

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   NatashaLposted 8 years ago

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      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      But you hear!

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    Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years ago

    Hello Eric, that's a very imp question!! I feel that the answer to this question is a crystal clear 'No.' And that not only relates to the Bible but all the other holy scriptures as well. Though there are different sections in various scriptures which are to meant be followed as they are for e.g. if I talk about the Vedas there are certain steps called 'Vidhis' (Protocols) to be followed for example before you start the prayers or a 'Yagya' (ritual done in front of a sacred fire, with mantras.)
    
    Secondly, It is pertinent to mention here that, perception precedes interpretation. Now there are a plethora of experiments that prove that each and every one of us perceive things differently. Thus will interpret them differently.
    
    Lastly, As much as we would like it  to be so, the world is not Unipolar. Everyone is not made the same way and the orientation of people's thought process is not linear. We are different and thus we cannot claim that our interpretation of the Holy Bible or any other Holy Book for that matter is Correct, Immaculate, Fool-Proof, Watertight or whatever else people may like to call it.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       What happened to the "WORKS" of the Holy Spirit?  Is HE (GOD) not in your RELIGION?

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       hello Norine. I knew you would sneak your way in! Anyway, read carefully before you comment.

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       gAberoi , your defention is ok for you.
       But evidence proves different , the bible is not of human content even tnough humans were used like secretaries to write the Heavenly Father thoughts.
       The moon ,stars ,animals are named in the bible are real

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       celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       go- in looking ar your profile it shows you are nt a Christian so anything you say has NO VALUE to Christians and is out of place here.   Your comment certainly does not pass the scripture test.   Also=NO  book is holy the contets may be but not book

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       GO:  I rest my case!  These believers are looking w/the eyes of a Christian (although FAITH needs increase)! 
       Happy 4th guys!  Read my Happy 4th HUB!
       I pray!

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       Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Gaurav, what an interesting comment. I always like a comparative religion perspective. There is so much to learn in this world. Thank you for your enlightening comment.

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Kiss&Tales:Definition of what?+What U say about Bible is exactly What the Hindus say about Geeta.But the point being raised is  about 'interpretation' of humans. CHARLIE:Not a Christian? Really?That's the reason to disqualify someone's views?

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       celafoeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       go-- on a supposed Christian discussion ABSOLUTELY YES.

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       Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Eric!! I appreciate your point of view.

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        Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        There is that pesky - "only I am right" problem again. Interesting how it comes up on a question like this one. Interesting if a non-Christian believes exactly what a Christian believes about a given scripture is the non still wrong?

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        Gaurav Oberoiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Exactly my point Eric!!

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        Edwinoel Tanglaoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Guarav once you open your heart and soul to d HS, that's when u may experience a revelation from d HS dt we need to live in spirit, not ruled by d flesh, to see d correct interpretation from
        one who possesses d  Spirit of God, Gal 5:1, 13-18.

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        Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Eric, when u welcome other gods, u worship 2! Same w/"Christianity!" If u believe any doctrine but "AFTER THE CROSS," you worship other god (Gal 1:6-9)! WORD "MUST BE" - "RIGHTLY DIVIDED!"

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    Ajax 2016posted 8 years ago

    I just wrote a hub on this. I am fascinated with religion and its utilization to control masses. I have encountered so many views and opinions and research-wow! I focused on the controversial topics. To your question I refer you to Buddha and the 14 questions. For I really find Buddha most enlightening especially when he refers to breaking the chains of questions we cannot answer and instead just learning all we can to feed the soul.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       "Learn all u can to feed the soul" goes against THE CREATOR!  READ Proverbs 3:5 "Lean NOT to "your own" understanding" but TRUST HIM to "lead & guide u into ALL truth" (Jn 14:26)!
       This is an ALL SPIRITUAL journey!

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       Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Very interesting Ajax.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Eric, u DON'T CARE what SCRIPTURE says, do u? U keep thinking u r to "learn man" to confuse u w/what HE HAS SAID, don't u? U r a FOOL!Trash n=Trash out!Who can "withstand the knowledge of GOD" (aka HOLY SPIRIT)?
       R u so "immature" in spirit to defy?

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       Ajax 2016posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Norine I love it! I would like to feed your soul. In fact have you studied more than just the scripture? I ask you to study your religion across all disciplines. Biblical history is shocking. Add in social and political influence. Good reads.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Sure! Hrs toward Masters degree n "Theology!" So (Phil 3:8)?
       "I BELIEVE" WORD! U don't (Prov 3:5)!
       GOD told me to "got out of that mess" & do as HE SAYS! What about u?

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       Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Budda is a man made god. What can this god do for the future of death ? Nothing. What can it promise humans nothing ? Many gods exist but are a destaction to the most high and living Father who deserves our attention and time.
       It is idol worship.

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I keep trying to tell Manita that but he doesn't believe II Kgs 17:29-41 or the POWER of the Holy Spirit who will tell everyone ANYTHING about what has been added or deleted from Bible!

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       f_hruzposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       How can you feed something which doesn't exist? You can sharpen your perception of what is real & rational, versus what is unreal & irrational so you can select the things with a higher value to collect in your mindspace for you to build on .

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       Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       How can you NOT provide a book with as many "accurate fulfilled prophecies" written BEFORE Bible?  Please provide!

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