Not believing in a Christmas, makes one a none-believer?

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  1. Michael-Milec profile image59
    Michael-Milecposted 6 years ago

    Not believing in a Christmas, makes one a none-believer?

    Christmas doesn't exist, it is a man-made 'holiday'.
    As for me, I don't believe in 'Christmas' as it is presented, celebrated and commercialized publicly. Don't take me wrong, please I am a firm believer.

  2. billybuc profile image87
    billybucposted 6 years ago

    Michael my friend, I never stop by to answer these questions, but for you I will make an exception....I understand what you are saying and I know you are as firm a believer as we are likely to find.  You stated your point clearly, I believe. smile

    Peace and blessings always

    1. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I respect you guys opinion , here.
      First Jesus birthday was never recorded or even observed himself. , next Jesus season of birth was when the animals were out in the field  warm month.
      John the. Baptist was kllled and behead at a birthday request

    2. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Bill. It is an honor my friend  to have you as the first commenter , sacrificing your valuable time with- exemption. Your participation  proves your writer's aspiration to lead the readers toward the source of truthfulness.
      Pax vobiscum.

  3. Dana Tate profile image82
    Dana Tateposted 6 years ago

    Due to the fact that Christ's birth has never been recorded, I have always thought of Christmas as a celebration of God's goodwill towards men. I leave out the "birthday" and enjoy seeing the beauty and the goodness of mankind.

    1. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      So true Dana Tate, the Spirit of the occasion is precisely the main point as you have stated. We do celebrate God's willingness to "Being with us"- Emmanuel- a year round, everyday, by a choice eternally. Tank you for commenting. Blessed everyday.

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      Norine Williamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Col 3:16 "And WHATSOEVER you do in word or deed, do ALL in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him."
      Merry Christmas!

    3. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting N; did Colossians celebrated Christmas unto the Lord too?!

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      Norine Williamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Apparently; when they were told to let everyone "respect another's "holy day" w/o JUDGMENT"(Col2:16)! JUDGE w/WORD or "YOU* judge! U worry about wrong thgs(fleshly)! GOD wants PRAISE-EVERYDAY & why we were created(Lk19:40)!

  4. Michael-Milec profile image59
    Michael-Milecposted 6 years ago

    Kiss and Tales, I am very grateful for your positive reaction with your clarification view of historical fact, that twenty fifth december doesn't have any connection to the birth of Messiah.Blessing.

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      Norine Williamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Matt 2:11 says "Wise men bought gifts in "honor" of HIS birth" (Not "wise?") so why can't we "honor?" It's in Bible! 
      Col2:16 says "Let no man JUDGE u of an holyday...[as] Sabbath days" which giving "honor" to Christ is!  Date doesn't matter huh?

  5. tamarawilhite profile image88
    tamarawilhiteposted 6 years ago

    No. The Jehovah's Witnesses are Protestants, but they don't celebrate Christmas, Easter or birthdays - only the two holidays mentioned in the Bible. But no one says they are not Christians.
    I've heard other Christians minimize or refuse Christmas saying it is a pagan holiday just a little moved off from the Solstice, an effort to Christianize the major winter holiday. Some of those do have prayers, fasting, family dinner but not the consumer extravaganza that is the Western norm.

    1. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Very good point 'christianized' - 25th December a pagan orgy celebration, nothing of "holy" connection to the biblical teaching. As 'celebrated' popularly in the world today, mostly its all but "Christ'' in the focus, take faith as personal personal.

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      Norine Williamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Not true based on  Matt 2:11 where "Wise men bought "gifts" in honor of Christ's Birth! 
      Col 2:16 "Let no man JUDGE you of an "holy" day...!"
      You can either believe "pagan" history or Scripture ("Wise men")!

    3. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      and you can celebrate christmas everyday Norine Williams

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      Norine Williamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I will; "or the rocks will cry out" (Lk19:40)!
      Col2:16 "Let no man JUDGE u in respect of 'an holy day'..."
      Matt 5:20 "Unless *your* righteousness EXCEED the righteousness of the scribes & Pharisees, u will in no case enter into kingdom of heaven"

    5. Michael-Milec profile image59
      Michael-Milecposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Finally, Norine Williams we are in agreement. HalleluYAh.

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      Norine Williamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Factious or we?
      Col2:16 "Let no man JUDGE you in respect of "an holy" day..."
      IF "in agreement" with WORD; AMEN!

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    Norine Williamsposted 6 years ago

    Why do MOST 'believers' consider Sunday "The Sabbath?'  It's a "man-made day" of worship as well but the majority of 'believers' observe!  "Don't take me wrong" either because if 'the world' establishes 'Thursday' as the Sabbath it's to be observed and is OK with me and WORD!  The same it is with Christmas! 

    GOD creates us to "Praise HIM" and it doesn't matter what 'day' of the week, month of the year or hour of the day; HE wants PRAISE!  JESUS told us in Luke 19:40 us "...I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out."  You get the Message?  Therefore, you can 'hold back your praise, "but as for me and my house" EVERYDAY is Christmas! 

    You all worry about the wrong things (aka "fleshly things")!  As man has established "Christmas" December 25th as a 'holiday' or "an Holy Day" in recognition of the birth of Christ then for one to say "Christmas doesn't exist" denies the birth of Christ!

    Colossians 2:16-17 says "Let no man therefore JUDGE you in meat, or in drink, or in RESPECT OF 'AN HOLY DAY,' or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days."  You notice the 's' on "sabbath days?"  So who told you there was 'a' Sabbath Day?  (v17) "Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." 

    The "shadow of things to come" will come when one realizes that the "initial" Sabbath under the Old Covenant was a day of 'rest!'  However, under the New Covenant, we 'rest' EVERYDAY by having FAITH in HIS "Promises!"  Hebrews 4:11 says "Let us labor therefore to enter into THAT 'rest,' lest any man fall after the same example of "UNBELIEF!"     

    The same it is with "Christmas" - EVERYDAY - or "the rocks will cry out!" 

    Wake up people!  It's all "Spiritual!" 

    You let JESUS answer your question when you are allowing 'the world' exceed your "respect of 'an holy' day!"  Matthew 5:20 says "For I say unto you, That EXCEPT *your* RIGHTEOUSNESS 'exceed' the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
    TRUTH = LOVE!
    Happy New Year!
    Norine

 
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