What does "I" mean? Asks my friend mythbuster

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   Our dear friend mythbuster has asked me by e-mail to explain as to what does it mean to say “I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim” ; and I understand that  lot of my other friends here has the same question to ask from me.
   
   I will explain it and the first word is “I”.
   
   I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      cjhunsingerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      A little is  "i" for people who wish to take no responsibility for what is said or what they say.It is for fraudulent philosophies that promote submissiveness of others while controlling their action and thinking. Islam is such a philosophy, as is Marxism.

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         Jeff Berndtposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Whoa, dude, that was uncalled for. There's no need to belittle a person's faith simply because you don't share it.

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            cjhunsingerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I have no problem with faith in a god/gods, devils or goblins. I believe that all people should have a right to be as unreasonable as they wish, as long as that faith is not purported as a truth and as long as those who process such a faith do not iinflict or attempt to indimidate others with such unreasonableness. That is what is objectionable, dude.

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               Jeff Berndtposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               "I believe that all people should have a right to be as unreasonable as they wish, as long as that faith is not purported as a truth and as long as those who process such a faith do not iinflict or attempt to indimidate others with such unreasonableness. "
               
               Is someone trying to do that here?

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      Jeff Berndtposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's funny, I thought this was going to be a linguistic discussion rather than a philosophical or theological one.
      
      Linguistically, "I" = 1st person personal pronoun. It's capitalized by convention, not for any logical reason. Possibly "I" is capitalized because we see it so often at the beginning of sentences, and so rarely elsewhere?

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      Shahid Bukhariposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Stop asking these questions ...
      
      and if you ... being one, who will ... regardless, Insist ...
      
      "You am ... me, I !"

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   I am a very humble person; you may say I am just an ordinary man in the street; having no claim of any piety or scholarship. I am an independant man; free as one should be in this world created by the Creator- God Allah YHWH.
   
   I am an insignificant man.
   
   I am writing in English language and since it is customary to write "I" in the capital; so I have written it in the capital; otherwise as my teacher, who hailed from Germany, and from whom I learnt a little bit German language; I would have written it "i"; as I have little ego in me.
   
   She told us that look at the English; they have a big ego so they write "I" in the capital and "you" they don't write in capital; implying that they don't respect with whom they address with. The Germans write "You" in the capital and "i" is the small case. They show more respect to the other persons.
   
   Well this might be a controversy among the English and the Germans; I enjoyed it at that time.
   
   How the English would like to respond it? They are welcome.
   
   I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      Pani Midnyte Odinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Proper nouns are capitalized because they are a specific person, place, or thing. The word "you" is not capitalized because "you" could mean anyone, while the word "I' is stating a specific person. At least that is how my English teacher explained it to me.
      
      Of course, there are some flaws in this explanation. However, people have been capitalizing the word "I" since the English language came about so it is best not to argue about it, as it is just a petty thing.
      
      As for your original post, I believe people wanted you to explain what an "Ahmadi Peaceful Muslim" is, as many are under the impression that Muslims are not entirely peaceful, no offense to you.

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         mythbusterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Actually,
         
         I emailed parrsurrey to ask what each word means and the purpose, with no judgment whatsoever on the way parrsurrey ends each post in a certain manner.
         
         I am trying to understand the importance of certain words, roots, of parrsurrey's belief system so that I am not so "separated" from the beliefs.

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            AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I have been reading this thread and others and I truly concur with what you are saying. I always look to understand another person's beliefs without condemning them. We have friends who are Muslim and we would not change that friendship for the World, we have friends who are Athiest to but all of us seem to put our religious differences aside and enjoy each others company when we are together which is often since we are all neighbors.

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               paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hi friend AEvans
               
               Well that is the only rational approach; all human beings are supposed to be peaceful and friendly with one another whatever the religion or no-religion or  denomination. Humanity first
               
               Thanks
               
               I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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   cupid51posted 14 years ago

   I found a new angle in your explanation of 'I'. I think it is not the issue of any language. She might had wanted to teach that we should not have the 'ego' within us.

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      paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend cupid51
      
      I thought that the issue was that the Germans and the English had some history of conflict; so they interpreted like that. I ascribed to the German point of view more.
      
      In Punjabi and Urdu we use pronouns of very respect for the person we address like "tuseen" or "aap".
      
      Thanks
      
      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      mythbusterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      This is helpful, too.
      
      Thank you.

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   Sometimes I think if I exist; a hundred years in the past; did I exist? A hundred year in future; would I exist? Two hundred years a lot of time; where I belong to people hardly live up to a hundred year and the last twenty years of them are miserable from the West's standard.
   
   So, do I exist? Or. Do you exist; or do we all exist? It does not matter to this Universe if we exist or don't exist; the deaf and dumb Universe.
   
   Aren't we just like an icon on the desktop of our computer? A click or two create us and with a click or two we disappear.
   
   When we  are asleep; we are there lying on a bed; and we live a life in our dreams which seems to be as lively and as real as when we are awake; but that is just an illusion when we are asleep:
   [39:43] Allah takes away the souls of human beings at the time of their death; and during their sleep of those also that are not yet dead. And then He retains those against which He has decreed death, and sends back the others till an appointed term. In that surely are Signs for a people who reflect.
   
   http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=42
   
   So life is not a right of us; if it had been we would have never died. Life is the right of our Creator- God Allah YHWH who never sleeps or gets tired or never dies; it is His mercy that He has bestowed it to us and then taught us how to speak; and how to write and how to make experiments.; it is all on His terms if we understand; yet we forget often.
   
   Do we understand?
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You don't find that passage even the slightest bit ridiculous?

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         Rafiniposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         not exactly ridiculous, but slightly similar to prayer 

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   mythbusterposted 14 years ago

   "Ahmadi" - the word/term, Ahmadi, please explain, parrsurrey.

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      paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend mythbuster
      
      Muhammad and Ahmad are both the names of the founder Messenger and Prophet of Islam.
      
      Both these names are mentioned in Quran; hence the name Ahmadi relating to him.
      
      When Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908); on receiving a Word from the Creator- God Allah YHWH proclaimed as the Reformer of End Time of all the religions specifically Messiah and ImamMahdi; a large opposition ensued from every where. People started giving bad names to those people who accepted him as Messiah and ImamMahdi. They called his followers Mirzai which was a title of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's ancestors; or they called them Qadiani, after the village Qadian or town he was born in.
      
      So for identification purposes it was thought proper to identify ourselves with the name Ahmadi; after another name of Muhammad.
      
      Hope it helps
      
      Thanks

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         mythbusterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you very much!

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         Pani Midnyte Odinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks, Ahmadi was the only word I didn't know the definition of. Now I do

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            paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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