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Here It Is – Scientific Proof for Life After Death

Updated on May 2, 2015

What Does the Afterlife Look Like?

What happens when we leave the tunnel and enter the light?
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The Biggest Question

They've always told us that nobody really knows, but is that still right?

We now know it's wrong. What we know has grown with startling new discoveries. See for yourself - the scientific proof of life after death:

  • Near death experiences, first explored in depth by Dr. Raymond Moody, opened a door that future researches walked through.
  • Dr. Michael Newton tripped over a universe of life between our many lives while using regression therapy. There are now thousands of documented histories, carefully researched, around the world.
  • Dr. Jeffrey Long set out to collect NDE stories and put them through rigorous statistical analysis to find out if they were real, independent and could withstand objective analysis. What he discovered is bullet proof.
  • Put them all together and you get resounding proof. There is noo longer any legitimate doubt about life after death.

A Demanding Standard for Proof

For me, this is the most exciting mystery of all. I wanted solid evidence, either way. Lots of it.

What I found is overwhelming evidence from three doctors and their teams that, pulled together, answers the question, once and for all.

Without having to figure out quantum physics, Many Worlds Theory or what a "multiverse" is, I'd be a fool not to accept the avalanche of evidence compiled from first-hand reports, compiled, cross checked and examined.

The Big Question Answered, Many Smaller Ones Come Up

The way I see it, there's no longer any what if? about it, just a whole lot of wide open doors for exploring what awaits us on the other side, where we came from and why and what meaning we we bring into the world with us.

Curiosity got me started searching, years ago.

An intensive care nurse struggling with the issue showed me Elizabeth Kubler-Ross's groundbreaking, On Death and Dying.

My mind went racing.

If there's a life after death, where and what is it? What does it tell us about life in the world we know? Do we now have answers we can trust?

Along with many personal stories starting to hit the book lists, I find published reports from scientists, Raymond Moody, Michael Newton and Jeffrey Long, fascinating and convincing.

All three doctors risked professional scorn for doing the research and, heaven forbid, (excuse the pun) making what they learned public.

What we understand should be reassuring to science, although it probably isn't, and troubling to established religions.

At our cores – the part of us we think of as "me" – we are spiritual and everlasting. It's something we know.

In Scientific Proof For Life After Death, I'll give you evidence you can check for yourself.

I hope you agree that the next smart step is to try to learn more about the details and stop wasting time knocking down an irresistible reality.

More than Reincarnation, a Universe Apart

Memories of the Afterlife: Life Between Lives Stories of Personal Transformation
Memories of the Afterlife: Life Between Lives Stories of Personal Transformation

Dr. Michael Newton and his colleagues have spent the last twenty years recording experiences "on the other side" from subjects under hypnosis.

The sheer volume of the stories, their commonalities and astonishing insights are proof enough. We're lucky enough that so many of the stories are being told publicly.

 

Life After Death, In Death, Between Lives...

What are we talking about here?

This is a new world of exploration, and even the term "near death experience" is only decades old.

What we're describing now can be confusing, but taken as a whole, a fascinating picture emerges from the newest evidence.

When Dr. Raymond Moody first wrote about NDEs (Life After Life: The Investigation of a Phenomenon--Survival of Bodily Death), all he really could say is that, in the proximity of physical death, many people experience something other than a disappearance.

And not just that, something apparently transcendent. Yet, his interviewees knew about nothing more than a transitional space where they were momentarily suspended when their bodies were clinically dead and presumably unable to think, feel, remember or see.

Dr. Michael Newton took it a giant step ahead when he accidentally discovered what came next (Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives), the life between lives that seems to be our core, eternal experience. It was something like Columbus discovering the Americas.

Newton was looking for something else and found a universe of otherness, a place we all come from and return to. A detailed library of recorded regressions into this space, gathered by Newton and his colleagues, leaves little doubt about the general idea but many questions about the details.

Then, Dr. Jeffrey Long, in a rigorous statistical study (Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences), settled it, at least as far as NDEs go. He has established beyond a reasonable doubt that there is an area that many, if not all, of us enter when our bodies fail.

His information is gathered from stories told by the few who manage to come back. The similarities prove a commonality of experience far beyond chance to go along with the extreme unlikelihood of any tradition explanation.

Taking it a step farther, he rebuts skeptics with thoughtful, factual analysis.

Books written by Eben Alexander (Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon's Journey into the Afterlife), Anita Moorjani (Dying To Be Me: My Journey from Cancer, to Near Death, to True Healing) and others collaborate what we've learned on a personal scale.

in the end, we have another life, whether after, before, between or in parallel. Something is there greater than the three-dimensions rigged to time with which we're daily engaged. Knowing about that and learning more is the adventure of a human lifetime.

NDEs - You Are Not Alone

Many people have recounted these remarkable experiences, some in ways - dreams, for example - that haven't been extensively recorded or studied.

Share what happened to you, even if it's unclear, and help others gain some better understanding.

Thanks for contributing.

Share your NDE, LBL and After Death Experiences Here - What happened to you?

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      David Stone 5 weeks ago from New York City

      What I've come to find fascinating is that, since we know so little about any other side, what communications we do get are sort of like fly the seat of your pants translations. Sometimes, it's clear enough, sometimes not, sometimes too unusual to recall in the way we've learned to remember.

      It all just says to me, first, that our loved ones are still with us and that we have an awful lot to learn.

      Thanks for your vivid stories.

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      Aleeza 5 weeks ago

      The experience is not my own but that of my mother, my brother's wife and a cousin. We lost my brother few months back. It was sudden and unexpected. I have been reading about NDE, multiverses, metaphysics etc but my family has never been into all this. They are purely atheists and non-spiritual. Few days after my brother crossed over, when the grief and shock were at their prime, my mother saw a dream in which our house and neighborhood was very drab, dirty and dusty with plants withered away and one lady sitting on a roof top reading a book, a plant next to her was dead and dry. When my mom looked up at the sky, she was overwhelmed with its beauty. The blue color was out of this world. She said she never saw such shade of blue in her life. In the sky, shone a big moon and big diamond like stars. The scene was purely amazing and left my mother in awe. Then she suddenly heard in her mind someone telling my brother to go and express his obedience. Obedience to whom? She doesn't know. When she shared her dream with us we could clearly see she was happy amidst such horrible grief.

      After a month or so, she saw a dream in which my brother had come to meet her at an old known place. When she reached the spot of meeting, he was standing there wearing great clothes. He had his hands in this pant's pockets. He was smiling, looked very radiant, healthy, slimmer and younger. My mom went to him, hugged him, kissed him incessantly and implored him to come back. He didn't reply anything and kept on smiling. What happened afterwards, she remembers nothing.

      In his wife's dream, she was looking at her palm. What she noticed next was another smaller palm inside her own under the skin. Slowly it began rising under her skin and the shape was that of my brother's palm. Instantly afterwards the scene changed in which he came to meet us all at a place known to his wife since childhood. He told her that he is very happy. On being asked by her whether he feels powerful and great, he responded in a yes. On being asked where he stays now, he told the name of a far away town. Then he kissed and hugged her, his children, his parents and me and left. In another dream she very vividly felt his presence beside her on the bed where he always used to sleep. She felt the warmth of his hand behind her neck and head. He then started talking to her. The feeling frightened her but she consciously chose not to fear. Then they had very long and clear talk and discussions. She doesn't know when the dream ended. In the morning, she remembered everything except for the topic of discussion. She couldn't recall what was said.

      In my cousin's dream, he was laying on his bed and watching TV. He looked very handsome, healthy and had unusually long eye-lashes. He didn't say anything or do any activity. In reality, my brother had beautiful eyes and long eye-lashes. My cousin wasn't particularly close to him and hardly spent any amount of time with him. Still she saw him in her dream and I am still waiting to see him again.

      I think these experiences can be labeled as After Death Communication. I am not sure though. Anybody's input will be highly appreciated.

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      David Stone 6 months ago from New York City

      I suggest you do more study with an open mind.

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      Catherine Giordano 7 months ago from Orlando Florida

      I just wrote my own essay showing on science has shown that NDE is simply an illusion. The stories of NDE have not stood up when they are examined with scientific rigor. Sigh Sigh. I wish I could just go with the flow, tell people what they want to hear, and get tens of thousands of views.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Tantalizing, misty120. We have a lot more to learn. Thanks for the story.

    Full Interview with Dr. Michael Newton

    Dr. Michael Newton's Discovery

    Life Between Lives - Proof Of Life After Death

    More than two decades ago, Michael Newton, PhD, was a practicing psychologist using hypnotherapy with his patients.

    In his work, he stumbled on past life regressions as a tool when he had a subject under hypnosis. As a conventional therapist and atheist, he would never have gone there deliberately.

    Past life regression does not necessarily mean a subject has past lives but that he or she someone discovers what they believe to be earlier incarnations while under hypnosis.

    But most practitioners are likely to agree that there are past lives to be explored without agreeing on what they are or what they mean.

    The big thing Dr. Newton discovered, though, was something he'd never imagined before he regressed a woman plagued by profound loneliness and isolation.

    Since she was older, many friends had died, but her loneliness went beyond the usual pain of loss.

    After Dr. Newton regressed her through several past lives without locating a root cause, a solution suddenly presented itself. "They're here," the woman said, suddenly brightening.

    She was with her friends and family, embraced by their love. When Dr. Newton asked her to identify the incarnation she was in, the answer was shocking. She wasn't in any of them.

    She was with her friends in a universe between lives.

    The discovery inspired twenty years of intensive research and the recording of thousands of Life Between Lives sessions and the eventual founding of an institute to support and collect the research of other doctors who continue exploring the most unusual universe any of us are likely to walk through.

    Summarizing what's been learned from Life Between Lives research, Newton and colleagues have heavily documented people's revelations of the interstices in which they exist between incarnations.

    And, these are spaces occupied by them not just before and after incarnations, but partially during them. What he discovered is that our "life between lives" are really our constant lives, a place in which we are permanently rooted.

    Although the full complexity and depth of these experiences is currently beyond our grasp, mountains of documentation tell us that we are privileged to become human as a learning, experiencing initiative from an essential place from which we extend ourselves and to which we always return.

    Greater detail can be found in the many stories recounted and analyzed in Dr. Newton's books as well as in my own Michael Newton Souls.

    Hard Statistical Evidence

    Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences
    Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences

    Jeffrey long finishes the job of proof by taking a strictly scientific approach, using statistics and analysis to reach conclusions that will change your outlook on life.

     

    Dr. Jeffrey Long Demands Scientific Proof

    Evidence For The Afterlife

    Although Long's mission started only with an interest in collecting objective evidence of near death experiences that could be explored statistically with scientific rigor, what he's found extends beyond that. NDEs, it seems, cannot exist outside the context of life after death.

    Readers should feel free to take in the the information on the website Dr. Long built for this purpose as well as his book Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences. But his evidence and analysis of it is irresistible.

    In his book, Dr. Long sets out nine specific criteria to be examined in considering whether near death experiences are universal and consistent. He explores them with exhaustive rigor. He also takes the trouble to debunk the debunkers, taking on skeptics with detailed analysis of their published opinions.

    Some of the content in the NDEs reported is exciting, but more so than even the scientifically objective others, his is more an explanation of the science and how it yields truth. His NDE subjects are not different than Moody's or Newton's, but they are more carefully picked apart - and still reach the same conclusions.

    Only reflex skeptics and those who will not accept the science, no matter how conclusive, can deny the reality and context of near death experiences. We're lucky so many people have had the courage to face ridicule to talk about theirs.

    But then, there's the other thing. A near death experience depends on an afterlife for context. Acquaintances, friends and family routinely meeting the subject at death's door, often those the person near death had never met in real life and something those he or she did not know were dead before them.

    If not from an afterlife, where do they come from? Taken in perspective of Dr. Michael Newton's life between lives, the answer is an inescapable revelation of the fuller story of who we are.

    Six People Talk About Their NDE Experiences

    Life After Death Evidence - Individuals Share Their Experiences

    Is there proof of life after death? If you agree that the near death experience is genuine, something more must be explained: How do all these dead people we meet in NDEs come from, some of them complete strangers? Life after death is the most plausible explanation.

    Dr. Raymond Moody's Groundbreaking Work

    Life After Life: The Investigation of a Phenomenon--Survival of Bodily Death
    Life After Life: The Investigation of a Phenomenon--Survival of Bodily Death

    Intrigued by the similarities in stories he heard from patients who were near death, as a young physician, Moody decided to dig deeper. What he found surprised him and inspired a cottage industry of life after death deniers.

     

    Raymond Moody's Near Death Experience Discoveries

    NDE's Are Individual, But Similar

    A pioneer who first used the term "near death experience," Dr. Moody watched it grow into universal recognition.

    Thanks to popularizers, especially Oprah Winfrey, most people now understand what is meant by "NDE." It's unlikely most are comfortable with what these experiences imply about how we live and what happens when we die.

    As a young doctor - Moody is both a medical doctor and forensic psychiatrist - he was intrigued by similar types of experiences critically ill patients confided in him.

    An outstanding feature was bizarre revelations about being in a sort of nowhere land that was neither living nor dead.

    He began collecting and collating details of the stories that he believed his subjects believed were true. Moreover, in the days before he coined the term, the similarities of their near death experiences were startling if contrary to much of what we believe about reality.

    Initially, Moody stuck by his conviction that the NDE stories proved only that many critically ill patients who survived remembered having them.

    He did not believe they were proof of life after death and resented religious fundamentalists who used his research to make their case. He also thought the New Age movement overstated the results of his research as spiritual proofs.

    More recently, though, in an interview with Jeffrey Mishlove, he said about the NDE research,

    "It has given me great confidence that there is a life after death."

    Poison and Prejudice Against Life After Death

    The Lockstep of Academic Thinking

    Recently, I got a whiff of all that's wrong about the way the conservative academic community closes its collective mind to new ideas. In an article in the New York Times, New York University professor Samuel Scheffler published a piece at least partly intended to promote his own book.

    The Times accommodated by giving him a predictably snarky headline: "The Importance of Life After Death. Seriously."

    I guess the Times didn't want to be beaten in the fight for academic closed-mindedness.

    Even though his disclaimer is irrelevant to the content of the article, Scheffler started thusly:

    "I believe in life after death. No, I don't think that I will live on as a conscious being after my earthly demise. I'm firmly convinced that death marks the unqualified and irreversible end of our lives."

    Snigger, snigger.

    In a philosophical community lorded over by Richard Dawkins, one must fly his non-believer flag or risk being flooded in the onslaught of academic finger-wagging.

    The result?

    An article I was eager to explore turned me off in its first short paragraphs. How can you trust a philosopher who must bow to rigid principles before making what looked like an appealing statement of conscience?

    Breaking It Down - Proof of Life After Death or Not

    Is there life after death, plain and simple?

    Yes

    Yes

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      • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

        speckart, I stuck to human afterlives, here, but other living things have souls that survive physical death, according to the research and discussion groups around Michael Newton's life between lives studies. It's been a matter of concern for animal lovers and a relief to hear stories of beloved pets rejoined with us after death. Only a heartless God would have it any other way.

      • Susan Peck 2 years ago from Texas

        Interesting ideas. However I'm wondering what opinions exist for non-human after death existence. I've loved many and can't believe only the human animal has souls

      • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

        Fortunately, puneet, there seems to be a way to do that.

        Thank you for commenting.

      • puneet ahuja 2 years ago

        i want to check my last life

      • Renee Dixon 3 years ago from Kentucky

        Definitely!

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        • visit2goa 3 years ago

          No way..

        • ElsieNew 3 years ago

          There is life after death only when Jesus returns the second time. The dead know not anything; they have no more remembrance at all. They don't love, hate or have any mental activity in the grave. The idea of reincarnation is of the devil. There often is a person that very much resembles another person. See my lense on Suicide. It explains in detail death and also hellfire--is it now or in future.

        • akusphinx 3 years ago

          Nothing to say..

        • TransplantedSoul 3 years ago

          I am not convinced. I certainly don't see anything verging on "proof".

        • Erin Mellor 3 years ago from Europe

          You can live on in the memories people have of you, and the character you helped them build. That's good enough for me. The recent work on hyperactivity in rats brains at the point of death is interesting, the brain appears to misfire wildly. Not an experiment you could do with people, but it bears further investigation.

        Next Stop: What It All Means...

        What If You Died Right Now and Went To...
        What If You Died Right Now and Went To...

        Does our new found knowledge risk devaluing the lives we liver here and now...?

         

        Conclusion

        The evidence is strong for life after death, strong enough to convince me that our attention should now turn to learning more about it and understanding the spiritual pillars on which our lives rest.


        © 2013 David Stone

        What do you think?

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            David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

            Always interesting to read how desperate skeptics are to deny there may be more to it than their leaky belief systems can handle. You haven't read the book and should know better than to launch a snarky attack without information. Does the prospect of life after death so imperil your beliefs that you can't tolerate another's point of view that differs? That's not scientific, by the way. It's religious belief turned inside out, but just as certainly dependent on faith.

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            SKEPTIC 2 years ago

            If you knew anything about statistics you wouldn't say that Dr Long's analysis was rigorous statistics. Talk to any actuary and (s)he'll tell you that collecting stories of people who claim that they had NDE's doesn't get to first base with statistics. Right away you have a biased sample before you start any analysis. His book isn't worth the paper it's written on. Nevertheless, he's laughing all the way to the bank thanks to people like yourself.

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            David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

            No, John, those are two different things. I appreciate your passion for cures, but those aren't the only things worth pursuing. We aren't going to stop studying physics or going to art museums either.

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            John 2 years ago

            instead of wasting our time trying to work out if there is life after death seeing as there would be no recollection of your studies when you would die, wouldn't it be worth more if you were to try to establish cures for illnesses such as Cancer, Hydranencephaly etc.

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            David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

            @fotolady49 lm: Do it soon. Squidoo is dying soon, and no one is really confident the 301 redirect will work. If you can't find it, it will be reborn at HubPages with my username David Stone1.

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            fotolady49 lm 2 years ago

            Yes I do think there is life after death! Great & exciting lens! I've bookmarked so I can finish reading.

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            David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

            @Snakesmum: The fact of it may be enlightening, but what happens now is what counts most. I think though that demystifying nonphysical life may help us better understand ourselves by better understanding those things about us that are not limited by time and their influence on us.Thank you.

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            Jean DAndrea 2 years ago from Victoria, Australia

            Not sure about life after death - If there is nothing, I won't know or care, but if there is, then it will be a pleasant surprise. :-)

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            David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

            @esmonaco: That's what I consider the healthiest outlook, Eugene.Thank you.

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            Eugene Samuel Monaco 2 years ago from Lakewood New York

            I believe I'm happy in the here and now, and if there is something out there after I'm gone, I sure hope it's as good as what I have now. Thanks for the research and interesting thoughts!

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @barrymead: The philosophical questions have gone unresolved for years now. That isn't likely to change.

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            blestman lm 3 years ago

            I believe there has to be more to life than what we can see here on earth if for no other reason that there has to be a master blueprint for life somewhere

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @barrymead: Interesting. Thank you for sharing.

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            barrymead 3 years ago

            @TransplantedSoul: I have pondered that from a religious aspect and non. Religiously, if we had cold hard proof, it would destroy any aspect of free will because we would all believe and all conform one way or another, indeed if there were a way to legitimise the killing of the "evil" it would be done, it would spark end of world war as the right to decide whose ultimate religion must be followed now some heaven was known to exist. Alternately in a non religious way, if we KNEW that dead is dead and nothing more, it would mean a removal of a moral compass for some, after all, a term in prison would bother me less than time in hell. And i may have some innate goodness but if the end is it how many more would wish to fully exploit their time on earth?

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            barrymead 3 years ago

            @David Stone1: My own story is about me but i did not recall it all, my parents did. When my nan died i remember after a while (i was 8 or 9 so it is a bit hazy on time after) about a week or two weeks, anyway, i saw an image of her in a painting. That is as far as i knew anyway. I recounted this story to my parents one day a year or two ago as we were just discussing ghosts etc. And my mum revealed the rest of the story. Apparently i told them i had seen nan appear in the painting but i had added on that she was with a reddy coloured dog and described it. Well, i had known my nan used to look after my dads old Alsation, what i hadn't ever known is, when my nan was younger, she used to have a red setter, something my dad even didn't know until he had mentioned the thing to his half brother who was older than he, and he had said "But xxxx Mum DID have a dog like that...."They had never mentioned that to me until i and they were discussing ghost tales. So it kind of is very weird, i was my nans favourite grandchild so far as i have been told and knew. And never have i had a secondary vision but since i was able to give a detail that not only could i not have known, my father and mother didn't even know.....Well it is not "proof" is it but surely it is a weighty point in favour of life after death. I can think of no explanation that is very much more rational

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @harryme: I think you've captured it well, Harry. Thanks.

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            harryme 3 years ago

            I am sitting in the garden, reading this article..When I look at the ground I found my answer. I see ants walking around, small as they are. These ants don't have any idea that I exist, that computers exist and what they do...if it was theoritical possible to talk to these ants and explain who and what I am, they would not get it, because I am just a big thing for them that they have to be aware of. And if I would try to explain that I am surfing around the world with my computer, and that I check my messages on my cellphone, they would nott get it because their brain is way to limited to understand this...And although we have genius scientists out there...I think as a human we are way to limited to understand everything that we don't see clearly....Life after death is for me like being an ant...we see something big, a glimpse, but we dont get a good sense of what it is...not to mention all the other stuff, that we are to limited for to understand...

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            Robert Connor 3 years ago from Michigan

            Great lens with one mind blowing subject.

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            Joan Haines 3 years ago

            there's a time to every purpose under heaven. I can wait to know what happens. When it's time, it's time.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @Joan Haines: Or doesn't, as the case may be.

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            Alison Williams 3 years ago

            If there is, I sometimes wonder how it would function. It would be a bit overcrowded! And imagine if someone got married a few times on Earth and all their spouses were up there - would they all be having fights over him/her? Also, I am not particularly happy at the thought of having to spend eternity with several people who I have met in this life! haha.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @Alison Williams: There really is a lot of evidence, and for some of us, the debate is a waste of time. Why argue about whether or not there's another universe when we can just go explore it?

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            Alison Williams 3 years ago

            I'm divided. When I was a kid I was convinced there was but over time I have believed in it less. Recently I met someone who convinced me that it was just a load of rubbish. But then, how does he know for sure - how does any skeptic know for sure? There surely must be some meaning otherwise what on Earth would be the point of our existence? Also, our brains and bodies are so complex and so is Mother Nature. Babies developing from virtually nothing is a miracle too. Why are there so many different species on the planet? How can all of this be put down to an 'accident' caused by rocks colliding in space?

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @james25882: You're welcome, James, and thanks for your reply.

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            james25882 3 years ago

            What an interesting Lens Thanks for posting it!

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            james25882 3 years ago

            It's certainly possible... I'm still not 100% convinced but it's possible

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @peppermintpatzy: It will be a while before it's an obvious as the nose on your face, as they say, but as of today, the statistical and anecdotal evidence is overwhelming. I'm puzzled that so many have trouble accepting, up to the point of desperately scrambling to find alternate explanations for phenomena. Is life after death so threatening for some reason?

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            peppermintpatzy 3 years ago

            I saved my money and years after reading a book about George Anderson, finally got a telephone reading from him. He knew quite a bit about loved ones who had passed over and NEVER EVER asked me a question nor ask me to 'feed' him info. I'm still not positive about life after death, but am open to the idea. It is or it isn't ....only one way to definitely find out, huh?

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @AlleyCatLane: Thank you, Carolyn. Check them out. Some really interesting reading.

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            AlleyCatLane 3 years ago

            I have always been fascinated by this subject, and am a believer. I am familiar with Dr. Moody but not Newton or Long. Thanks for making me aware of these other researchers.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @karlawhitmore: Isn't it great that NDEs can now be openly discussed and considered? Because of that, we are learning new stuff every day. Thank you for your comment, Karla.

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            Karla Whitmore 3 years ago from Arizona

            Having had an NDE of my own and not being able to explain it as anything other than being outside my body, I fully believe in life after death. We are more than just tissue. The real person is the soul.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @sierradawn lm: Thank you. It's pretty fascinating. I keep watching to see what comes up next.

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            sierradawn lm 3 years ago

            I especially loved these points in your article: People blind since birth, who had never experienced sight, could see their bodies for the first time during their NDE. A person who has been blind since birth would have no way of describing the things that they saw unless they really saw them. Others report watching the life-saving measures being taken to resuscitate them and recount the conversations they heard while clinically dead. A person who is clinically dead has no consciousness and has no way of seeing or hearing anything unless something beyond our scientific understanding is happening. Dr Long has studied over 3000 documented NDE's in 20 countries. If the NDE was just wonderful hallucinating brain chemicals being released at the time of death, causing these identical experiences, how can these people relate real things they saw and heard while clinically dead? A most excellent lens!

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            Renee Dixon 3 years ago from Kentucky

            I believe that there is life after death, certainly! Our family has had some unique experiences, but mostly I just have faith in God and the Bible. Great job on this article, very interesting!

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            Kathryn Grace 3 years ago from San Francisco

            So many people have shared stories of contact with loved ones that it is difficult to conclude that each and every one was under some illusion, but it is my own experiences that I will not and cannot deny. With or without scientific "proof," I choose to let my spiritual experiences guide me. Should I find, upon death that these experiences prove false and that Science was correct after all, I will cease to be, and it simply won't matter for I won't "be there" to know the difference. Should the opposite prove true, I will not be the tiniest bit surprised.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @Brite-Ideas: Well, that's the thing, isn't it. They can't sit down and type you a letter, but without a doubt, the reach you in ways, both seen and unseen.As Wayne Dyer says, "Believing is seeing."I'm often reminded of the saying in regard to this subject, "None are so blind as those who refuse to see."

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            Barbara Tremblay Cipak 3 years ago from Toronto, Canada

            The week my father passed there were numerous incidents of him contacting us and I'm the only one in my immediate family who is really open to this or talks about it, but that didn't matter, I wasn't the only one who saw and heard. And this wasn't a topic my dad was ever into. It's just my dad, nothing to ever be scared of. I welcome it. Miss him beyond words. Wish he could phone me :)

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @Craftymarie: It's interesting that these things happen. I haven't seen anyone tackle the phenomena scientifically, but the stories are impressing. Thanks, Marie.

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            Marie 3 years ago

            This is an intriguing subject. I do not have any personal experiences to share. However, I have a friend who is convinced that her father is still alive in some form because of weird experiences that have happened to her since his death. She believed he was with her as she scattered his ashes due to a gust of wind that seemed to come from nowhere and an absolute feeling of his presence. Since then there have been many 'signs' to her that he is still watching over her with heart shaped symbols appearing in the natural landscape at moments when she is missing him the most. So she absolutely believes in life after death. I merely hope there is something.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @Ruthi: It must be good to have earned that framework through personal experience. Thanks, Ruthi.

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            Ruthi 3 years ago

            While I have not had what is called a NDE, I have been near enough to death more than once in my lifetime, to believe there is life after my body dies. For me and my faith, that hereafter will be what I believe Heaven to be. Nothing more, nothing less.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @grannysage: We're really only on the outskirts of what we're learning from this, Diane. It's exciting to be one of those who poke their noses into the unknown and try to make sense of what they find. Thanks for the comment.

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            grannysage 3 years ago

            When I read Dr Michael Newton's books years ago, they immediately resonated with me. It just felt true. I've never had an NDE or anything similar, but the subject fascinates me and I read almost anything I can find about it. I have a girlhood friend who told me about an NDE that she had years ago and she's written a book about it.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @EpicEra: Made me laugh, Darcie. People can certainly be like that sometimes.

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            EpicEra 3 years ago

            @David Stone1: Perhaps I could have said "inner awareness" vs "subconscious". Perhaps try this little release trick. next time someone says "I don't know what the problem is" , ask them, "well, if you did know what it is, what would it be?". Of course, if the person runs away, it's not a very useful trick for discussion purposes. But in my experience, 10/10 people know exactly what the problem is, and they'll express it if they don't have to own it immediately.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @anonymous: It's interesting that so many events like this are accidental, not the contrived inventions skeptics would have you believe. Always reminds me of what I learned from Wayne Dyer, long ago: "Believing is seeing."

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            anonymous 3 years ago

            I was in a hospital having 7 teeth removed, and was put to sleep for the extractions. During that time, I had an out of body experience where I was watching the procedure, and I could hear the doctors and other people talking about golfing.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @catkid123: It may be. Transitions not always smooth or simple, catkid123. If you haven't read about out of body experiences, some of which seem to be unintentional, you might want to do some research. Good luck and thank you.

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            catkid123 3 years ago

            The fact that I saw my mom die before my eyes was weird to me. The fact that sometimes my body freezes when I am sleeping g and I almost think I'm dead and feel like my soul is leaving my body and I can't wake up. I'm dreaming halfway but think I am no longer. It is creepy. I wonder if that is what happens.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @anonymous: I don't see how that would work, Ailyn, and it would go against the grain of the research. It seems like people have very similar experiences without regard to what they believed before them.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @TheWritingnag: Thanks, Writingnag. I enjoyed writing it, and I'm happy to see it spark some discussions.

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            anonymous 3 years ago

            I am not sure, I mean, it could have all been something that becomes real if you believe in it?

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            Writing Nag 3 years ago from Colorado Springs, Colorado

            I love reading your lenses...I always learn so much and this one in particular is so well done. Thanks for writing on a subject that should be discussed more.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @PatrickHayes76: Thanks, and you're welcome. If you do something related, let me know. If it's relevant, I'll link to it. It's a fairly untrod niche on Squidoo. Most of what's been done is heavy on religion.

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            PatrickHayes76 3 years ago

            Very interesting lens. Many ideas I had not thought of. thank you for sharing.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @TransplantedSoul: Sort of presumptuous to imagine that anyone needs life after death "to make their life appear meaningful." What turns me on is discovery and new frontiers of knowledge. I love reading about quantum physics and the paths of discovery that continues to lead us down, but it has nothing to do with making my life appear meaningful. You can ignore the research and what it's telling us. That's your choice, but try to tune in better to what drives the interest. It really hasn't changed my life because I have long thought that the best choice was live as if we had one chance for anything. Nothing in the research changes that. I'm still into learning and leading an ethical life, as I assume are most of the readers here.You "consider" is sophomoric wordplay. It reads like a trying to cover an unjustified prejudice with cleverness.

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            TransplantedSoul 3 years ago

            I am always surprised the people need something like life after death to make their life appear meaningful. I see nothing to lend credence to this. But consider, if you die and there is nothing - you won't know, if there is something - then bonus.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @blestman lm: Interesting take on the topic, blestman. I hope we are both around long enough to find out. Thanks.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @writerkath: Kathy, you do a great job of putting difficult ideas into words. People reporting on NDEs often say there is a lot they can't express because there's nothing like it to relate to in normal reality. So, it's always somewhat like that, grasping for descriptions.I've read about the ideas of awareness you're suggesting, but it doesn't quite work for me. It's based on the idea of a fallen Eden and trying to return. I understand the roots, but I think the story is the opposite. With our unique awareness in the animal kingdom, we sense a separation, a real one, and have something nagging to return to the wholeness of nature. But that's like homesickness. You can't go home, though, not because it isn't there but because it isn't the idyllic place we think we remember.Our growing awareness has taken us a long way form there. We're the first generations, except for the elite, with the time and leisure to really speculate about these things, to have the pleasure to think about our souls. So, the sense that we're expanding awareness is real.I don't think it's a here and there type of thing. Our spiritual selves are just as present as our physical and sentient selves. It's just that, now, the you and me typing on a keyboard are in a physical form that won't last, but while it's here, we are touching, seeing and hearing things our spiritual selves can't. It's a way for spirit to become and experience physical space and, more important, to influence it. How and why we influence it is a whole other book, too much for here.As far as the limitations we feel, they are limited to the physical and sentient aspects of ourselves. We're subject to physical laws, and our senses are limited for direct experience. String Theory suggests at least a half-dozen dimensions we can't perceive directly. Not only that, we can't even look for them because we don't know what they are. So, there is more there, a lot more. Some will come to us by observing their influence, not their actual presence, like gravity. We know it happens, but we don't understand what or why. We can't see anything but the effects. We also don't know why we hook ourselves to time when we know there is no physical past or future or consistent direction. It serves for now.These are all exciting areas to get into, for you and me, anyway, but we're only at the beginning of the evolution into full awareness. We're just opening up to it. I don't believe there is any Eden to return to, but there is something really interesting to discover up ahead.Thanks for your comments. They keep it lively here.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @HughSmulders LM: I think we're making enough progress, Hugh, to define some of it, although beliefs and best guesses will fill in the gaps for the foreseeable future. More facts and insight gained from statistical analysis will gradually reduce our dependence of faith.

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            writerkath 3 years ago

            @David Stone1: Hi Dave! Wow! We could talk for hours on this! I wish I could find the words and be as articulate as you are in discussions such as this. I think - as far as I've been vaguely beginning to understand it - is that our consciousness as we perceive ourselves on THIS plane of existence is somewhat "heavy." I feel that we identify with only that which we can see/hear/feel instead of things/vibrations on a higher or subtler plane - which would be "where" our being/soul/life must surely exist since it is non-physical in nature to begin with. I can't find the right words - our awareness (I believe) gets clouded by the need to successfully live life in this physical dimension, and we (unconsciously) find ourselves feeling separate from the higher self/universal consciousness.And, the physical limitations we have that prevent us from connecting with the eternal are (or, at least I feel they are) because we tend to automatically identify with our physical nature rather than our spiritual nature. It's something that we're brought up with (after all, I never recall my parents saying, "Hey, Kath - slow down and meditate and lift your awareness to a higher level so that you can reconnect with All that Is." Nope. It was, "Stop it! Wait 'til your father gets home! Do the dishes!" and other tedious day to day "superficial" consciousness stuff.)I also feel that there may be something "hard-wired" in our DNA to a certain degree and throughout the generations - that perpetuate those feelings of physical, and certainly spiritual, limitations. For example, I am descended from very poor, very sad Russian and Polish immigrants who were also descended from equally poor, very sad people. They were people who were taught and just automatically accepted teachings of their various churches, and never ever talked about "what happens AFTER." No one in my family ever seemed to have any real sparkle for life or for trying to find "answers," and there was a lot of "woe" that I perceived. It has been my life's work to have a life that sparkles, and to have something joyous and glorious to live for - and to overcome these physical and spiritual limitations I was born into, now and after my physical body serves me. (Uh... I'm hoping it will serve me for a LONG time, BTW)So, the limitations that we may be living with are - I believe - things we can work through and overcome so that we CAN perceive the life hereafter - or what "life" actually is. Actually, I get this fairly strong feeling that working to gain this clarity and understanding is part of our journey here. Anyway, like I said, I love to talk about this stuff, but find it hard to articulate what's in my heart. The work of Ernest Holmes, his student Joseph Murphy, and Yogananda and a few other teachers has really helped me begin to at least have a "feeling" of understanding.Ok... I'll shut up now before I make a complete idiot of myself. :)

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            HughSmulders LM 3 years ago

            I guess that it is almost impossible to define for sure. It's all about your beliefs. Yes or no.Everything is up to you.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @writerkath: Thanks, Kathy. For me, it's the most important question we can look at. Right now, what I'm wondering about is why, if there is life after death or, more accurately, a life that continues and precedes our physical years, why is it not more accessible. In other words, if we have an eternal soul, why are we so dimly aware of its connections? What is becoming clear to me is that our blindness and amnesia are both just parts of our physical limitations, but not really restrictions. It's sort of like being colorblind or deaf. There are things out there we seem to understand without having the ability to really get a hold on them. Or maybe, research will show me something else. We'll see.Thanks, again.

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            writerkath 3 years ago

            Good morning Dave! I cannot tell you how psyched I was to see this lens featured on the home page this morning. Of course, everything you write is extremely well thought out. This is such an important topic to me. For some reason I've been fascinated by the idea of a "life" after this particular plane we find ourselves on. That fascination led me to become a student of science of mind as well as others - I studied Paramahansa Yogananda's lessons for quite some time, and love his Autobiography of a Yogi, wherein he describes his meeting with his Guru, Sri Yukteswar (after Sri Yukteswar had passed on from this life). I have never found any comfort in "ordinary" religion; however, the more I read and see (such as that which you present here), the more I am convinced that there is definitely much, much more to "life" than what we experience here. I stumbled upon Anita Moorjani's story about a year ago, and her experience was just one more to convince me. Anyway, I'm really excited that you tackled this subject. Outstanding!

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @ColorPetGifts: It's so new to general awareness that, I think, even the terms are confusing, and even some helpful descriptive terms haven't been created yet. Most people don't care about abstract expressions, as in poetry and art, but those are our best avenues for explaining some things.I wouldn't give the "subconscious" that much credit, but of course, it depends on how you define that elusive concept. I probably have a less broad view of it than you do.

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            ColorPetGifts 3 years ago

            Hey Dave, I've almost lost track of which "life" it is we're engaging in. Perhaps the reason we don't remember everything "between lives" is it's too mind blowing for most to regard the universal form. Most of us don't really want to know that there actually is no night at the end of the day. Most folks are far too invested in death being the answer to a miserable life. It's an addiction to continually believe one is helplessly subject to cycling through form - subconsciously we ALL know exactly what we're doing in regards to coming and going. We talk about it like we're ignorant - but only in this realm. "In between" lives, it's common knowledge :)

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @rakesarm: To some extent, rakesarm, that's certainly true, but there is no question that some doors have been opened. We've seen things, but how much and what more is there? Those are the big questions.Thanks.

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            rakesarm 3 years ago

            Life after death is in another dimension which is beyond our comprehension..Great topic..Cheers!

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @darkflowers: Eric Idle (Monty Python) wrote one of my favorite songs: Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life, song by men being crucified with Christ. "You come from nothing. You're going back to nothing. What have you got to lose? Nothing!"On the more serious, it seems part of the materialism driven insanity of our times that anyone would believe that we created meaning, values, transcendentalism, souls, not to mean the concept of a God, any God, out of whole cloth? Why in the world would we do that when we could just continue along like every other creature? Evolution of anything, including ideas, demands a benefit to sustain it. These things, I suggest, are hardly benefits as they constrain the freewheeling selfishness of nature. A higher purpose is not to our advantage - unless, of course, there is one.

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            Anja Toetenel 3 years ago from The Hague, the Netherlands

            Great Lens Dave, I'm 99% convinced there is life after death, you made a strong case here! I'm not afraid to die, the worst thing that might happen is that there is nothing... well no problem at all, but I'm convinced that a lot will happen when my time has come!

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @CornellMarCom LM: You bet, CornellMarCom. That's the idea.Thanks.

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            CornellMarCom LM 3 years ago

            This is a good lens to bring about discussion. genuine

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            girlfriendfactory 3 years ago

            @David Stone1: It's called being a realist, David, and also not being willing to drink the Kool Aid. I don't knock anyone their beliefs. I once believed in many things I don't know (and I don't just mean Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy). People once believed alcohol cured them and leeches too and that blacks and women had inferior minds that weren't worth educating. Times change. I hope for everyone's sake, in the end, we all get what we believe.For the record, my mind is so open it's considered vast and I am always willing to re-evaluate "new" facts, just not unsubstantiated eye-witness accounts that I know firsthand are fallible. Nothing against you. I think you made a lovely lens and presented it well and that's what we want - good information and opinions getting out on the Web, not garbage. You still garnered a thumbs up and even a FB like from me. Still doesn't mean I consider it truth. Sorry if an opposing view vs. accolades puts me into the condescending group.

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            Renaissance Woman 3 years ago from Colorado

            I appreciate stimulating lenses like this about important topics. You are always willing to put yourself out there in a way that many do not have the courage to do. These are the kinds of conversations and debates we all must be willing to engage in. Thank you!

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @timo5150 lm: What about statistical analysis do you doubt? It's a standard scientific method and used to determine all sorts of probabilities. This is science, but you need to read the books in detail to see how conclusive it is. There really is very little doubt, but oddly, a number of people cling to it as they're afraid it might be true. Maybe it's religious inhibition or maybe life after death is something we've we've been convinced is unprovable. But the facts are there, and many, many people have experienced it directly.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @timo5150 lm: Those kinds of things happen, timo5150, and you can never be sure, but they've happened to many times to so many people in similar, they are evidence of something we can't consider ordinary. Other evidence, which we have, tells us that what you father told you is exactly what happened.Thanks.

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            timo5150 lm 3 years ago

            @PDX tours: Not sure that I agree about this being scientific evidence either but science would be the only avenue to discover proof anything less would be speculation.

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            timo5150 lm 3 years ago

            I never had much belief or thought for that matter in afterlife but my father had Alzheimer's long after he was so far gone that he did not even know me, one day he had a moment of clarity and said his brother came to him and told him it was going to be ok. He went right back into his lost state and died shortly after.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @Raymond Eagar: Interesting story. Many others like it, and I don't think they're uncommon. As with dreams, some people don't remember or disbelieve their NDEs. Others are embarrassed into silence.Thanks for sharing, and I'm glad to see your mother got fifty more years to enjoy life on earth.

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            Raymond Eagar 3 years ago

            My mother had an operation , my dad was wating and after the operation the surgeons called my dad and told him she is not going to make it and to say goodbye , he looked at her and did not recognize her .the next morning she came out of the coma and got better and came home .My mother told us she remembered walking and far away her mother and father beckoned her to come but then they turned around and walked away , and then she woke up .My mother died 50 years later after another op .

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @JaspinderKaur: Thanks, Jaspinder.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @Tim Bader: You're right, Tim. It's all good when open discussions help us get closer to truths.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @girlfriendfactory: girlfriendfactory, this reads like you already had a conclusion and are just hopefully waiting for the facts to come in. You can't seriously compare the mountains of evidence supporting life after death with medieval speculations about fire or the Northern Lights, can you? How can can you conclude that "We don't like the truth, even if it cannot be explained for centuries," when the truth under those conditions is something we couldn't know and, therefore could neither like nor dislike?Open minds these days have been willing to consider greater possibilities and to consider the evidence without condescending. Paying attention opens doors the already certain will never get through.

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            JaspinderKaur 3 years ago

            Interesting lens.

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            Tim Bader 3 years ago from Surrey, UK

            Thought provoking article, Dave!I don't know if I would agree 100% with all the views presented, but it's good to talk about this sort of thing!

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            girlfriendfactory 3 years ago

            One day, this too will all be explained and the answers may not be to your liking. Like the Northern Lights and fire and the world really being round. We often don't like the truth, even if it cannot be explained for centuries. In the mean time, while it can't others attach their own beliefs to it. Do what feels right to you, but don't expect everyone to latch onto your explanation.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @catspyjamas: cat_mama, thanks. We've discovered a lot, and there's a lot more to come. The door has been opened.

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            catspyjamas 3 years ago

            Great lens! Like you, this subject has interested me for a long time. Thanks for sharing with us.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @LynetteBell: You're welcome, SoundFinance. I'm glad you appreciated it.

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            LynetteBell 3 years ago from Christchurch, New Zealand

            Thanks for this lens. I found both videos very interesting, thanks.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @AlleyCatLane: Thanks, ACL. One of the most fascinating I can imagine. Me, too.

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            AlleyCatLane 3 years ago

            This topic has fascinated me for years also. I have read several of the books you mention, as well as many others, and seen the documentaries and news shows. I thoroughly believe in life after death. Congrats on your purple star.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @SBPI Inc: Thanks, sbpilnc.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @OhMe: Thanks, OhMe. I had a good time researching and creating it.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @PDX tours: Nobody's upset that I'm aware of. I thought you might want to explain your statements a little more. Guess not.

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            SBPI Inc 3 years ago

            @David Stone1: Good one Dave.

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            Nancy Tate Hellams 3 years ago from Pendleton, SC

            I have not read all the books that you feature here so I appreciate knowing about them and hope to read them soon. I certainly enjoyed reading this very thought provoking lens. Thanks.

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            PDX tours 3 years ago

            @David Stone1: Didn't mean to upset you; simply responding to your request for feedback.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @PDX tours: I'd be curious to know what you "dispute" about statistical analysis. It's been an established tactic in the scientific method for centuries. More likely, I think, you didn't check into the information sufficiently before commenting. And why wouldn't science be "an appropriate avenue?" Science may not always give us the final or complete answer, but it's the best tool we have. Why would life after death be immune? Makes no sense to me.Surprised you recommend Mary Roach. She's an entertaining writer who publishes books geared to the best seller lists. She works for laughs and leverages snarky comments ahead of more subtle insights. So, she wrote one, nonscientific book on life after death. So did about a million other people. So, what? You can get at the truth reading someone who starts out with a crowd pleasing agenda.

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            David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

            @anonymous: Yeah, changecoacher, there's a lot there to dig into and learn about. An exciting path of discovery. Have fun with it.

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            PDX tours 3 years ago

            I would dispute that the evidence offered above is "scientific"-- and question whether science is an appropriate avenue to discover proof of an afterlife. I would also suggest a book not listed above: Spook, by Mary Roach, published 2005.

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            anonymous 3 years ago

            Fantastic information! Especially the "Life between Lives" part. I once participated in a training "Woman Between The Wind". I so related to the feeling,..and it explains so much of my/this life. Now I have some information to get my teeth into.

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