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Spirit or Devil

Updated on December 8, 2014

Upside Down and Crashing

The vision was real and happened suddenly while I was engaged in other things. Standing in a field on the side of a mountain a passenger plane, on a regular flight from one city to another, approached overhead. As it neared me it suddenly flipped over and crashed into the mountain behind me. Screaming to God to save the hundreds of lives on board my body shook with emotion as they were obviously dead.

At that point inside my head were these words; "Get the bible". This book was rarely out of my hands as the Spirit was teaching me for the job ahead. A job I was yet to know all about. The book opened in my hands and I read:

It is in the turning of things upside down that mankind is lost.

In this lens is the explanation of the vision and these words, as shown to me.

Babes in the Spirit
Babes in the Spirit

Engaging The Power

Being led by the Spirit

Spiritual from birth and with full memory of my reincarnation it is a remarkable thing to be engaged in undoing the many religious lies which conflict with that power. But in the beginning of my learning phase it was a case of here a little there a little to learn in depth what the Spirit needed for me to know. The vision was only one of many but it was probably one of the most important to understand how man has worked so consistently and hard to overturn the things of the real God, that is the Spirit of the Universe, for his own glory and profit.

Between lives and with the Spirit in the spiritual form there was knowledge that beyond the grave there is only spirit, for those who belong. There is no heaven or hell, devil, angels or other. There is no so-called host of heaven, no heavenly throne, no king with servants, no relatives to meet up with, and certainly no punishment or rewards other than being with the great Creator and planner of all we do.

The Spirit speaks to its people in tongues. It allows healing for those who are seeking truth and who come away from the religious lies that are hurting them. It is overturning the forces that oppose it, but only for its own people. Religion cons you into thinking that everyone is spiritual. That is a trick to get people into their congregations and to feed them more lies.

To save themselves and their livelihoods religious diehards are often heard stating that these things from the Spirit are from the devil and are not to be taken seriously. Some run for cover when they hear tongues because the power is so strong. It is something not felt by those not of the Spirit.

Religions which promote mythical places like heaven and hell and claim that dead people have spiritual power have grossly mislead the world and it is amazing how many accept these things without question. Brainwashing is a powerful tool as seem in those who believe that by killing so called non believers they are doing God's work. They are so mislead that they have become delusional. Those who impose terror and build up congregations on the threats of eternal suffering are bullies and dictators who should be dealt with as terrorists.

It was a puzzle for early religious fathers in trying to work out how God can be three in one, as in the Trinity. But the preachers get around it by playing on people's ignorance and gullibility. It does not make sense to me and nor does the New Testament because the Spirit is the Great Creator who knows everything and has planned the entire universe as a wonderful unit of total power. In it there is not one thing out of place or planets would collide,

Religious claims about the death of Christ as the Saviour sent by God to save all mankind is a straight out lie. To understand how it was enforced required unpicking it from the beginning. The ancient myths on which it is based and the misinterpretation of naturall forces had to be known in total in order to explain how and why this conclusion was reached and why my life was totally under the control of the Spirit.

Whether you believe these things or not is not up to me but up to your own sense of spirituality and whether or not you are in or out of the fold. If you are one in the spirit you will want to read on as you are probably searching for truth. You may, however, be apprehensive about finding it or being involved with something so outside of your traditional social beliefs. Let me put that fear to rest because only the Spirit is in control and nothing outside of that can harm ITS own.

Those Who Belong Know It

You feel it inside, you know the truth, you have probably escaped from religion, and you are calling for more knowledge and help

Do You Have memory of Reincarnation? - Or do you just believe it exists?

Are you connected to Spiritual Power?

A Reincarnation True Story - Can you deny this happened?

Note the religious statue in the background and know that there is no such a being as the so-called Virgin Mary. Reincarnation proves there is no heaven and hell and, therefore, no kingdom up there..

Old Testament
Old Testament

The Vision Becomes Reality

Back to the Old testament for answers.

The Spirit took me through the Old Testament piece by piece until realisation dawned that the Spirit is in pain and those with the Spirit are suffering. It was another vision that brought that home to me.

One day while in a Pentecostal Church the communion elements were being handed around when a man on a cross stood before me The look in his eyes was pain, terror, suffering, innocence, confusion, and loss. I can never get the image of it out of my mind, As he lifted his head and looked me in the eyes he called my name out loud. "Norma." But inside I heard 'Take me off the cross. '

For months that vision overshadowed everything I did and felt as the lessons continued. Slowly everything began making sense. The man on the cross is a lie made out to represent the Spirit of God. It is to the lie that people turn when they are in trouble or needing to speak to God, but there is no power there. Instead of comfort they find misery, instead of support they find rejection, instead of love they find hate, instead of life they find death. These are the emotions and the look on the man on the cross. But now it was up to me to prove these words.

The prophecies in the Old Testament hold the answers: Isaiah is probably the most reliable and of the bible it states:

And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:

And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

Wherefore God said, forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but hath removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men; Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder; for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. Isaiah 29:11-14

Confusion Reigns

Can You Understand ALL of the bible? - Or is it confusing for you?

Do you believe everything in the bible because you understand it or because you are told to believe?

Why is Reincarnation Abhorrent to Christians?

There is so much evidence for it, even in the bible, so why is it frowned upon?

The answer is simple enough if it is true then heaven and hell are lies. That means no Jesus Christ, no devil, no threat of eternal punishment, and no Trinity. In reality most religious doctrines cannot stand in the face of it.

The Book is Sealed
The Book is Sealed

A Confusing Document Full of Men's Lies

And the fear of hell to make you believe

The book is sealed because of the confusion within it. In the Old Testament prophecies there is one God and no one else.

I am God, and there is none else, there is no God beside me; I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am God, and there is none else.

In the New Testament there are angels, devils, spirits of all kinds and a Trinity god which in itself is confusing. Plus there are a lot of questions raised by the claims therein. None more so than the Virgin birth when science has clearly shown that in order to be one must have genes from TWO PARENTS.

Jesus Christ was, according to Matthew and Luke, the result of a spiritual impregnation and we all know that spirit has no genes. It has no penis either and that makes the story of his being a myth. But the creators of the myth did not know it at that time. In fact genetic knowledge is less than 100 years old. So it was meant to be known at the end times when the whole lie will be undone.

And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

The meek also shall increase their joy . . . and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.

For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: Isaiah 29:18-20

The terrible one is he who put up the false image to capture the people of God and lead them into a prison whose bars are nothing more than the imagination. Anyone with an eye to see the truth and a yearning to know the real God does not go there.But the thought of eternity in hell for trusting in the truth as opposed to the lie is enough to keep them locked up.

That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought. Isaiah 29:21

The offenders are those who rebel against the image while the snare is the threat of hell and eternal damnation.

Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I God have created it, Isaiah 45:8

Now either God is a liar or those who compiled the New Testament are.

Life in Prison

This is a sample of being in jail and spiritual jail is not much different

They call out from behind bars
They call out from behind bars


Another very real vision

In a vision I saw a man (lets call him A) who was loving, kind, gentle and he had a big house and in it were his gorgeous family. Loving, gentle, kind children who adored him. Up the road was another man (let's call him B) and he did up his house to look like that of the first man. Then he got a disguise to make his appearance the same as that of A

One day the children went out for a walk and a romp in the park. B came up to them and he talked like A and he told the children they were going to now live in the house owned by B. But they did not know it was a trick and they were very obedient to their father, who also had warned them against talking to strangers. But this man was, in all appearance, their father so they followed him into his house.

When they got inside they found they were trapped. All the doors were locked and the windows had iron bars on them. They could not call out because they were silenced by threats of severe punishment. They could not hear their father calling them because they were deafened by the drowning out effect of the music and lectures they were now receiving. Over time they would forget about their real father, or so it was hoped.

The real father, A, was devastated and greatly saddened over the loss of his children. But they were already forgetting him and he knew that he had to put on a disguise in order to get them back. So he dressed differently and pretended to be a lowly figure of a man who was to be executed for some crime or other and he was seeking shelter from the law.

He was allowed to enter so that the children would be less concerned by their imprisonment. They were told a remarkable story that he was killed and hung on a cross and that the image of him now placed before them was all that remained. They then worshipped the image as their father. Now when they wanted to talk about their problems they went to the statue instead of reaching out to him. But he could do nothing as he stood outside listening to their cries and saddened by the state they were now in..

This vision is an analogy of how God's people have been stolen and imprisoned in a different house to their own. It explains God's anguish because it is the Spirit that had to become the man on the cross in order for the Children of Israel to be drawn back.

The Spirit is crying and these words tell why:

Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable. which refuseth to be healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, and as waters that fail.

Therefore this saith God, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, and thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them.

And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem thee out of the hand of the terrible. Jeremiah 15:18-21

But who would suspect that God's people are trapped in the house of liars and robbers except that it is written down in prophecy. It was meant for a time of retribution, a time to grow in the spirit and to be lost at the same time. To be refined and purified by one's own knowledge that the Spirit within is stronger, brighter, more attractive than the images made by men that is without.

But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses; they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.

But everything was part of the plan. Only Israel are of the Spirit and only those of Israel really know God. It is they whom the Spirit is talking to and they are the children of Jacob's son Joseph, for they are named as such in the prophecies.

Who gave Jacob for a spoil and Israel to the robbers? did not God, against whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in God's ways, neither were they obedient until the law.

Therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of . . . anger, and the strength of battle; and it hath set him on fire round about. yet he knew not; and it burned him, yet he laid it not to heart. Isaiah 42:24,25

Have You Had Your Rights Taken Away? - Perhaps they were stolen by robbers?

Do you understand what this lens is exposing?

God was Made into Something Else

No longer the great Creator

The vision with the plane was frightening. Behind me on the mountain were hundreds of people dead and I had no power to save them. So what did it mean and why was it shown to me?

To begin with over the months that followed the learning curve I was on took me to the beginning of language and religion to understand where man got his ideas on divinity from. They were all taken from nature and his imagination, which grew as his thinking progressed into new areas. Sometime along that path to modern man the Spirit implanted some with spiritual knowledge and they were fed visions and prophecies, just as myself and others are receiving them today. They wrote them down as a testament to the power of the Spirit and they were largely preserved in the Old Testament, although many have added and subtracted from them.

When Constantine put up his figure of a Saviour God, in the form of Jesus Christ, it was the disguise and the false house. It robbed God of the Children of Israel because they were stolen by falsehoods and were locked away from the knowledge of spirit. They were brainwashed, threatened, terrorised into accepting the image as truth. But some refused to have anything to do with it and they were outcasts. They were ridiculed and condemned to hell. Many were burned alive at the stake or suffered other tortures. Those who could remained true to the Spirit.

To free the remainder of the children the Spirit had to become the man on the cross, had to be worshiped as the Son of God rather than the mighty God. Until this day millions still believe that God, who is so powerful so creative and so spiritual, should ever have needed to produce a son to die in man's way, brutally and under torture. That such a man could be a god in his own right. So the Spirit became the man in their eyes, but not in reality. That's why God's pain is perpetual.

Anything of the Spirit is condemned as being of the devil, such as speaking in tongues. Healing, which is happening now all over the world through the Spirit, is ignored as being anti-Christ, which it is . Anyone claiming to have knowledge of the Spirit is avoided and condemned as evil. In this way was God, the Spirit of the Universe, turned into the devil. So the children became frightened of their Spirit parent because 'he' had the guise of a kidnapper, of a murderer, of an eternal punisher. But the Spirit spoke out before hand.

Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Spirit, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?

Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay; for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? Isaiah 29:15-16

For those who are spiritual there is this promise:

Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

For precept must be upon precept. line upon line, here a little and there a little.

For with stammering lips and another tongue will God speak to this people.

To whom it is said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

But the word of God was unto them precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little there a little; that they might go and fall backward and be broken, and snared and taken,Isaiah 28:9-13

Now does it make sense to you? Do you feel the power of God in these words? Are you of Israel? Are you truly spiritual? Tongues is powerful and brings the healing because it opens the channel between the Spirit and the one who needs it. Through tongues the power comes through me as well to heal and help all who come my way. This is the real God, not the image of falsehood and lies. Its the real House of Israel we are talking about not the false house with prison walls full of torture, pain and death.

God was turned upside down because man's thinking is upside down. There are things beyond our understanding and one day those of the Spirit will know it all.

The Spiritual People

Mostly they are refined and have been struggling to understand about their own spirituality in the light of the lies told by religious leaders. Now they can come to know their Spirit God

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Spirituality Versus Religion

© 2010 norma-holt

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    • VspaBotanicals profile image


      6 years ago

      This is more than a nice lens, it is an excellent lens!

    • Elyn MacInnis profile image

      Elyn MacInnis 

      6 years ago from Shanghai, China

      A good portion of the world believes in reincarnation - most all of Asia. I really enjoyed your video of James - it is very touching.

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      Lorelei Cohen 

      7 years ago from Canada

      Extremely thought provoking. There are so many things that we really may never understand.

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      7 years ago

      Once the mind is silent, petals start opening one by one......which we call miracles in fact they are not miracles....they are as natural as our existence.............

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      akumar46 lm 

      7 years ago

      Nice lens on Spirituality and Bible.thanks.

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      8 years ago

      I do believe that human beings have power to understand the many extremes and spiritual existences but this comes with the faculties focusing in an effort to get these instincts.

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      teacher2 lm 

      8 years ago

      My beliefs are partially built on the Bible but not the Old Testament or what is preached by priests. I wish to thank you for making me question myself on my religious beliefs. I makes me seek who I really am!

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      8 years ago

      Almighty God, the Big Bang, Evolution, Reincarnation and Pendulum Dowsing are related subjects.


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