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15 Reasons You Can't Trust Esther Hicks or Abraham

Updated on May 4, 2015

Who Do You Trust?

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Esther Hicks On Stage

Learning Not to Trust Abraham-Hicks

Did you ever wonder how Esther Hicks learned about The Law of Attraction and channeling?

It all came from her husband, Jerry Hicks, who died in 2011, and his sources from the century old New Thought Movement.

But the real messenger, she claims, is "Abraham."

She describes Abraham as a collection of about one-hundred "nonphysical teachers" that deposit "blocks of thought" in her head while she's in a trance. She translates the blocks into words, acting out as Abraham and dropping the "I" in exchange for "we."

She's able to do this almost instantly on stage before live audiences, simply by relaxing and "letting them come in."

On stage, "they" begin with a greeting, a familiar warm up in which they tell you how pleased they are to have you in attendance for "co-creating."

That's followed by a riff on some topic, sort of a sermon and, then, a session where you're invited to march up and take a spot in the "hot seat" where they can ask ask Abraham for one-on-one guidance.

Off stage, Esther says Abraham dictates books by forcing her fingers to type on a keyboard.

That's the official story, anyway. In truth, while he was still alive, Jerry Hicks pressured Esther to write books to fulfill a contract with Hay House. He edited them, even while publicly insisting they were the untouched wisdom of Abraham.

Something new: Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree, Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction

The production of new books halted when Jerry died. Did he take Abraham with him?

Most, including her role model, Sheila Gillette, call what Esther does "spirit channeling," but Esther spurns that label, singling herself out as unique.

She interprets "blocks of thought" from nonphysical teachers who are informed directly by "Source," a term she chooses instead of God, although what you and I call "God" is what she means.

But do stumbles and errors show us that Abraham-Hicks might be a product of hers and Jerry's ambitions and not some divine source of wisdom?

I launched this article by giving ten examples of mistakes suggesting that Esther Hicks could not be channeling anyone or anything, at least not channeling any entity that was bright, educated or well-informed and certainly not anyone intimately connected with God.

I now have a list of fifteen for you. It wasn't hard getting there.

How Did They Plant It and Make It Grow?

Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks' Teachings and the Law of Attraction
Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks' Teachings and the Law of Attraction

Do the Teachings of Abraham-Hicks make sense, looked at closely and objectively? Did Jerry Hicks really die? Is there something to hide?

 

The List of What Esther Hicks Gets Wrong Every Time

Here are the things that, bit by bit, convince me that Esther Hicks is making it all up as she goes along and that Abraham-Hicks, is a hoax.

The reasons keep accumulating as more people look at and expose contradictions and, also, as insiders begin stepping forward to talk about their experiences with the Hicks operations. The easy life of cruising along in their monster bus doesn't come close to resembling the real life, 24 X 7 labor of managing Abraham-Hicks.

  • Here's a bonus reason, making it now sixteen reasons you can't trust Esther Hicks for guidance or wisdom. Honestly, I was going to stop at fifteen, but this one was so very awful, I had to put it in. Ready?

    "There is no state of physical decline or damage that you could not recover from-none-not any, if you knew it... If you wanted it and knew that you could. And that's those miracles that they talk about every day. They're not miracles at all, they are the natural order of things. But because they are rare, people think they are miraculous. They're not. That's the way it is supposed to be. You're supposed to thrive."

    ---Abraham

    Excerpted from the workshop in San Diego, CA on February 23, 2002

    Let's start with "if you wanted it." If it's physical damage, even a simple one like a visible scar, you are very likely to want it. Easy peasy. And now that Esther has informed you that "you could," why not just make that scar go away? There is nothing stopping you. The next Abraham-Hicks follower using this method to repair physical damage and has before and after pics to prove it, let us all know about it in the comments below. I'll arrange for you to get me copies and I'll post them here. Promise. But I won't be holding my breath waiting.

  • Jerry Hicks lost his battle with cancer after choosing a course of treatment that seems a direct contradiction of "the teachings of Abraham." Belittling conventional medicine on many occasions, Esther Hicks (in her Abraham persona) said that a near immediate return to health was possible, simply by changing vibrations. It would take as little as an afternoon, she said. While she was able to blame the victims of cancer and other illnesses by pointing out that they just weren't getting their vibrations right, she chose silence when it came to the sick man who slept next to Abraham for 25 years and had been described by her as the best at managing his vibration of anyone alive.

    Silence is especially golden when it protects the cash flow.

    So, devastating was the news of Jerry Hicks illness and so clearly did it threaten to expose Abraham Hicks teachings as fake that, after a clumsy, unethical effort to blame his hospitalization on a spider bite, they released a convoluted story about how he went for "heavy chemotherapy" as the "path of least resistance," a throwback to older, forgotten "teachings."

    Not until Jerry Hicks died did Esther concede that he'd been battling leukemia. She offered no explanation about why he hadn't simply followed Abraham's teachings, opting instead for a saccharine monologue that had little to say in tribute to her decease partner and a lot about herself.

    Notes:

    Esther Hicks on the best approach to medicine: "The very best approach to medicine is,'Well, I see your physical body is sick, what's been bothering you? What are you worried about? What are you angry about? What are you frustrated about?' Because that is what is at the root of all of this. And then say, 'Let it go, let it go, let it go.' That's the message, and if they could hear you and do that, then they would all be well right away."

    --- Abraham

    Excerpted from the workshop in Ashland, OR on Tuesday, May 16th, 2000

  • Did you know that a selfish child is "like Jesus" who didn't bother himself with concerns about others' (using Esther's word) "toylessness?"

    With this fantastic claim, Esther Hicks abolished Jesus' well-known empathy and kindness toward others in need and replaced it with indifference. (Remember, she claims that Jesus is a member of the Abraham collective of "nonphysical teachers."

    Earlier, speaking as Abraham, she connected herself firmly to Jesus (and other prominent religious figures like Buddha and Mohammad): "That which Jesus was, Esther is," she said while in her slick Abraham trance. It was first time Jesus ever became so narcissistic or enamored with wealth and possessions.

    There's more.

    In the same sequence, a concerned mother who had inexplicably come to Esther for advice introduced a new concern. It worried her (She couldn't stay "in the vortex.") that her son had a habit of kicking the family's cat.

    The always wise Esther Hicks ordered her not to interfere. It was between her kid and the cat. The cat was "teaching" the brat, according to Esther.

    Favorably comparing a child's selfishness to Jesus, followed up by encouraging animal abuse... Is this the spiritual guide to follow?

    Esther Hicks may be making it hard for even the true believers to stick with the her. Even the most duped in a cult ought to see the dangers in letting a child kick a trapped cat.

  • A lack of empathy exposes a lack of awareness about the contours of engagement in physical relationships. This is best seen in Esther Hicks' inability to comprehend the pain caused by the loss of loved ones in death and mockingly referring to death as "croaking," bragging about "being so disrespectful." Esther Hicks has stuck with declaring "delightful" every death experience without exception. It's worth noting, of course, that there is no one around who can contradict her, although growing mountains of evidence from NDEs tell a different story.

    (Note: Just for the record, Esther dropped the "croaking" references when Jerry died. He "transitioned," instead. Gone also was her heartless observation that, "It's always good to see the old ones go." Jerry Hicks was 84.)

    Probably the meanest is her claim that, after dying, we are without exception happy, even blissful, even those who have been immersed in a joyful existence up until that moment or who have left children, dependents and other loved ones behind. This trivializes life on Earth, just as traditional religions do, showing this "leading edge of thought" is simply a variation on a tired theme.

  • Esther Hicks claims that humans didn't evolve from apes, but were "a whole new idea." Nice try, but we share about 97% of their genes and the evolutionary track is fairly well understood. Other channels, such as Theo, have no trouble with evolution. We may be cluing in here more to Esther's (and the rest of country's) lack of scientific knowledge.

    Here is the quote in all it's thickheadedness:

    "There is thought, and there is Thought Form, and there is Manifestation. Manifestation is always in the eye of the beholder. So this time-space-reality that everyone is perceiving is nothing more than vibrational interpretation.

    So the Thought Form of that which is man was set forth from Broader Perspective, and has continued to evolve by the experience of those who were having the experience here on the planet. And what you actually see as man or human is vibrational interpretation.

    Now, did man come from ape? No, man was a different idea. So how does the idea of evolution occur? And we say: because the idea of each species was set forth, and as the experience of the species is lived, the idea expands. So the expansion is happening from the Leading Edge place and is supported from the Source Energy that flows everywhere the idea goes."

    Esther Hicks has also said recently that humans were on Earth during the time of the dinosaurs, missing her guess by only a few billion years.

    Wouldn't you think any "nonphysical entity" with the access to all the insight in the universe, as Esther and Jerry Hicks claim Abraham has, might actually know what high school science teaches can't be true?

Alternatives for Spiritual Guidance

If it's a spiritual journey you're on and you want a teacher or teachers, you can find better choices. Here are some personal recommendations from books I've enjoyed.

Unleash the Power Within: Personal Coaching from Anthony Robbins That Will Transform Your Life!
Unleash the Power Within: Personal Coaching from Anthony Robbins That Will Transform Your Life!

Anthony Robbins asks you to accept the reality of awakening and the need for making a massive effort to get what you want.

 

Ancient Alternative that Survives the Test of Time

The Four Agreements Toltec Wisdom Collection: 3-Book Boxed Set
The Four Agreements Toltec Wisdom Collection: 3-Book Boxed Set

The beautiful thing about The Four Agreements is the simple honesty of it. The wisdom may be ancient, but the insight is timeless. It can help you adjust your life, right now, today.

 

Take a Long Hard Look at the Teachings of Abraham

Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction
Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction

Have you ever looked at the story Jerry and Esther told about the birth of Abraham? What do the teachings really say? You might be surprised, even shocked at what you learn.

 

Where Jerry Hicks Learned What Became the Teachings Of Abraham

The sources for the teachings of Abraham in style and content aren't hard to find.

Jerry Hicks' Bible

Think and Grow Rich
Think and Grow Rich

This was Jerry Hicks bible, the "secret" wisdom from which he drew the teachings.

 

Five More Things Esther Hicks Always Gets Wrong

  • "Abraham Live," maybe the creepiest thing to come out the Abraham-Hicks marketing machine, even if the title itself wasn't weirdly funny, has begun to run concurrent with the workshops. For only seventy-five bucks, with no right to record a copy, followers can watch Esther do her shtick on their computers.

    In short, the Hicks Team is webcasting their workshops, much as the monster churches do, and they are probably gearing up to ask followers to pony up subscription fees, taking greed to a whole new level. As Gordon Gecko pointed out, greed can be good, but when you consider the sales pitch for this thing, it's hard to imagine who would pony up seventy-five hard-earned dollars for it or, really, why followers aren't already fleeing.

    Quoting directly from the announcement:

    "We recently had a chat with Abraham about these upcoming global broadcasts of our live seminars, which will allow people to participate in a live event without actually being in the room. So many people, from so many places around the world, have requested that we travel to their countries so that they can participate with Abraham, and this new Live Stream broadcast answers that request. It will be a great way for people who can't be, or don't want to be, in the seminar room to still participate in the seminar.

    "As Abraham used the word 'participate,' Jerry asked, 'Since the people won't be in the room and won't be raising their hands, and won't be able to sit in the hot seat to ask their question, what does Abraham mean by participate?' Abraham smiled..."

    Now when you consider the unintentional humor of going "live" with a group of "nonphysical teachers" who claim to be "deader than dead," you might overlook the suggestion of having a "chat" with them, but what got me was "Abraham smiled.... Now just exactly how does a nonphysical entity, who Esther Hicks claims gives her "blocks of thought," smile...?

    Nathan, who thinks I'm "close minded" (probably means closed minded) and have a bunch of other deficiencies, commenting below, argues that, if Abraham can convey thought with emotion, then they can convey a smile. Of course, in reality, Esther claims they convey "blocks of thought," not "thoughts with emotion" and a smile is a whole other thing. Nice try, Nathan.

    The word whacky doesn't even cover it.

  • Asked about severely disabled children and how the Law of Attraction would draw painful experiences into a baby's life and that of his or her parents, Abraham claimed these were "old souls"arriving damaged, just for the experience, saying nothing about how struggling parents attracted them.

    An important aspect of their preaching about the law, as explained, is that we are always in control of everything that happens in our lives. A random genetic error, an accident, Is not possible, since each individual creates every aspect of their experience. Esther is sometimes forced to come up with some fairly crackpot and impossible explanations to justify implausible circumstances.

  • In Boulder Colorado in June of 2004, Esther said this: "Every bit of it is about economics. Every bit of it, without exception. Everything about religion is about economics. Everything about politics is about economics. And everything about economics is personal satisfaction. Everyone is personally motivated to do the best that they can possibly do for themselves."

    But in Kansas City in September, same year, she said this: "Your world is pointing toward an insistence on conformity which is causing you enormous grief. It's what's at the heart of all of your religious battles, and religious battles are what are at the heart of all of your battles. In other words, all of your wars and global irritation with one another are over your determination to promote sameness. Your democracy insists that it's the only government that works. And every religion (it's interesting to note) proclaims that it is the only one that works."

    But Esther, didn't you say it was all about economics? Oh, well...

  • Recent books, especially in the series starting with the power of emotions as a subject, are not direct quotes from Abraham. They are rehashed versions of the teachings, stretched out with object lessons about certain situations, much in the style of the earliest Abraham recordings. They are expurgated by Jerry Hicks, according to his own lights, which reduces their credibility for several reasons we can save for another time.

    To get a better perspective on this, try to get your hands on the audio version of these books. At the close of each, they include an Abraham-Hicks live session recording. The difference is dramatic. Moreover, the books are spoken by Jerry, not Esther, who appears only in the introduction. Jerry has never claimed to channel Abraham.

    (Note: It was confirmed for me by a person involved that these later books were a project conceived by the team as a way of repackaging teachings Abraham had already offered. The trouble, of course, is that this makes them someone else's selective interpretation, not the pure, gut stuff we were told came straight from Abraham.)

  • From the simple Law of Attraction teachings, the Abraham-Hicks team has added many complicated procedures and new ideas. Now, instead of "you get what you think about" and "birds of a feather flock together," we have a "vortex"where desired things are held in abeyance. They haven't been delivered because the time is not yet right or, the standing explanation, "you're not letting it in."

    Also, when it was revealed that, contrary to Esther and Jerry Hicks' claims, the "Law of Attraction" did not originate with them, they migrated it to the clunkier term "Vortex of Attraction," which does.

End Of The List For What Esther Hicks Always Gets Wrong

  • The 2012 harmonic convergence predictions. At first, Abraham shrugged these speculations off as useless because, according to the Law of Attraction, we will get what we attract then, and nothing can be predicted in advance. Later, pressured by true believers in their New Age audiences, they fell into the harmonic convergence line and talked about new knowledge and awareness in the world today that would lead to great change in 2012. Popular demand engendered new truths, it seems.

    By the way, none of the big changes ever occurred. Wrong again, Abe.

  • Wisdom, if viable, doesn't need all the marketing and image control used by Abraham-Hicks. It's getting to be as if Jesus were pitching pricey sandals and offering to lead pilgrimages for a fee.

    In a nearly ghoulish twirling of Jerry Hicks cancer into a marketing tool, Abraham Hicks on July 7th, 2011, sent out an email blast with this exact wording:

    "We so much appreciate all the inquiries and love that you have been sending our way and we wanted to give you a quick update.

    "We're going to fly to Del Mar on Monday for the next phase of our rebalancing act in getting Jerry back on his feet and feeling frisky. Every day we're experiencing the relief that we can only receive from Abraham as they remind us about the power of the Vortex. We are enjoying the comfort when we are able to ignore the temporary what-is.

    "Abraham recorded a wonderful segment for Jerry last night guiding him toward complete comfort and ease, and that is exactly what he is focusing on now. We'll continue our city-to-city workshop schedule as posted, which means that we'll be enjoying the company of our friends in San Francisco on Saturday, July 9th. If you'd like to join the generally frisky Frisco workshop group, you can call the office before 4 p.m. CDT on Friday (830-755-2299). The last San Francisco workshop was filled to capacity, so a phone reservation would ensure that we won't run out of chairs."

    They didn't even enter a paragraph break between the news of Abraham recording a segment, whatever that might be, probably a workshop rehearsal tape, for Jerry and the pitch for tickets. This isn't illiterate as much as it is Freudian. "Move over now, Jerry, we've got tickets to sell."

  • In twenty-five years, wouldn't these "eternal beings"with direct access to the "Source," or supreme being, have come up with one original, really useful idea? I'd have been happy with a simple cure for the common cold.

    (Nathan again, commenting below, implies that Abraham did provide a cure for the common cold. Right. My mistake. Here it is: Don't think about colds and you won't get one. How did we all miss that for so long!)

    Abraham has never provided a new idea. Esther and Jerry Hicks just took techniques developed by Seth and Theo, both of whom Jerry and Esther were very familiar with before Abraham arrived, and blended in ideas from the old "New Thought Movement." Abraham's "hot seat" conversations with attendees are entertaining and sometimes enlightening, but they break no new ground.

    I'm not saying they don't occasionally come up with something fantastic, but something useful and objectively observable would be nice. Most of us would love to have what Esther preaches be true. Well, not the animal abuse stuff, but a lot of it.

    How about telling us how radiation or toxins cause cells to become cancerous? Gold star for Esther, if she can peg that one.

  • Abraham's teachings are simple. There has been nothing new in a decade, except for exercises and concepts like "the Vortex."But like a jalopy without brakes, the machine keeps rolling from seminar to seminar as long as cash is available. Is this what one who professes to be as wise and all knowing as Abraham would do? Why not give it away?

    If the Law of Attraction works as Esther Hicks and Abraham have taught, then Esther and Jerry's abundance is assured anyway. So, why keep pumping out new products and cruises when there is nothing more to say?

  • Thudding boredom and marginal literacy have entered the realm of Esther, Jerry and Abraham Hicks.

    It's only fair to assume that an entity with the wisdom and access Esther and Jerry Hicks claim for Abraham would be thrilling to hear from. For many of us, they once were, but here's a recent entry from their Vortex writings:

    "I Can Attract Relationships That Agree with My Desires... People are not finding it difficult to find the mate of their dreams because that person is not out there, but because of their own contradiction to their own desire in the thoughts they offer about the subject every day.

    When you consistently offer thoughts about your future relationship that feel good while you think them, that means you are consistently matching the desires that you have discovered as you have lived life. And under those conditions, only someone in agreement with your desires could come to you. Under those conditions, no need for control is necessary.

    Through each exposure to interacting with others, you launch continuous rockets of desires of what you prefer. And only when you are a Vibrational Match to the culmination of those desires will you allow your rendezvous with someone who matches those intentions that you have gathered along your physical trail."

    --- Abraham

    Excerpted from the book, The Vortex, Where the Law of Attraction Assembles All Cooperative Relationships # 80

    Anyone who can read that through without dozing off has my admiration. Who thought anyone claiming so much wisdom could be such an infinite bore?

  • Abraham Hicks is baffled by String Theory.

    You'd think an entity claiming access to all the wisdom the world has ever known would be able to comment on a popular scientific thread that might bolster some of their claims, but no. According to a recording supplied by a friend who prefers to remain anonymous, Abraham doesn't even know what it is.

    Simply, Superstring (commonly known simply as "string") theory tries to explain some of the peculiarities of quantum physics by proposing extra dimensions and constituents of matter that make the quantum world appear as it does. Abraham, after hearing a man describe himself as a "recovering physicist" and make a simple explanation of what string theory was supposed to do, politely listened as Esther explained that going back in time was a waste, seeming to get string theory as something to do with evolution, which, of course, we already know she hasn't a clue about.

    If Esther Hicks is going to continue faking Abraham, she'd do well to read some newer books and stop looking at herself in the mirror while counting ticket sales.

In Conclusion

If you believe, as I do, that anyone offering guidance from the highest spiritual source ought to be consistent and original, you will find Esther Hicks lacking. If you believe any God worth having would be compassionate, you won't find that in Abraham.

My fifteen reasons are a brief summary. I could easily find a hundred contradictions and errors in fact. If you're looking for a teacher, you can find better. That's a fact.

Faking or Channeling a Real Nonphysical Entity?

Is Esther Hicks faking?

Maybe not always, but faking at least some of the time now.

Maybe not always, but faking at least some of the time now.

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    • David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      Yeah, for whatever reason, HP has always accidentally duplicated some comments. Seem to be with no rhyme or reason.

    • David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      It wasn't just that she couldn't explain String Theory, it's that she hand't any idea what it is. She could have said, "That's all wrong because...." or "Yes, that's part of how the physical works universe works." Either would have been fine, but her response was clueless, out of context.

      As for evolution, it's accepted universally by scientists. It's only religious believers who disagree, and their arguments have been debunked.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I'm attempting to re-post my reply to Snap. If it appears twice, my apologies.

      Snap,

      First of all. It's irrelevant whether or not String Theory is or is not testable when applying it to questioning Esther. Please note. I only refer to Esther and not Abraham because I do think she's faking it - always has been.

      If Esther/Abraham is 'Infinite Intelligence', which she has referred to Abraham as, 'Infinite Intelligence' should be just that - Infinitely Intelligent. 'Infinite Intelligence' should be able to explain string theory at the drop of a hat not avoid it because she has no clue as to what it is. Maybe Esther should Google it so that when she's asked again, she'll be able to answer it. HMM!

      As for evolution or the beginning of life, I, a very intelligent person - but not infinite intelligence - will accept the big bang theory as well as evolution as very trusted theories from well renowned scientists. Esther is not an renowned scientist. I know that Esther was raised in a Mormon household where the father was the ruler of the house. So. I can venture that her education was limited.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Snap,

      Whether string theory is or is not testable is not the point when it comes to asking Abraham. IF Abraham is truly 'infinite intelligence', Infinite Intelligence should be able to explain string theory without the slightest bit of hesitance. Someone who professes to be 'Infinite Intelligence' should be just that - infinitely intelligent. Got it?

      As for evolution and evolution, I accept it as a theory that has been taught in our biology classes from at lease middle school on up. I noticed that you did not mention Esther/Abraham's crazy ass notion that humans and dinosaurs existed simultaneously. Considering that Esther was raised a Mormon. I'm not the least bit surprised that she believes that.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Snap,

      Whether string theory is or is not testable is not the point when it comes to asking Abraham. IF Abraham is truly 'infinite intelligence', Infinite Intelligence should be able to explain string theory without the slightest bit of hesitance. Someone who professes to be 'Infinite Intelligence' should be just that - infinitely intelligent. Got it?

      As for evolution and evolution, I accept it as a theory that has been taught in our biology classes from at lease middle school on up. I noticed that you did not mention Esther/Abraham's crazy ass notion that humans and dinosaurs existed simultaneously. Considering that Esther was raised a Mormon. I'm not the least bit surprised that she believes that.

    • David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

    • Snap 4 months ago

      String theory is nonsense. It's not testable. Even in evolutionary theory we didn't evolve from Apes (rather more likely it is supposed, common ancestors). But nobody can explain the beginning of life and until they do, we really have no idea how any life form came to be, including humans.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      He's alienated all of our friends here in Baltimore. We have a few elsewhere. I'll see if any of them will be willing to help.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      He's alienated all of our friends here in Baltimore. We have a few elsewhere.

    • David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      Yeah, there aren't 30 years of truths to share. She's been milking it, making stuff up as she goes along for a long time. If I were you, I'd round up some friends. It's time for an intervention.

      Good luck!

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I'm glad you are continuing to respond to comments here. I have to tell you David. It helps me immensely. I feel quite alone. My husband listens constantly to the CD's he's made from downloading the youtube videos. It takes every bit of strength I have to yell 'turn that shit off'...

      It's been my analysis through listening (incessantly) that I've been able to realize that the stuff doesn't make sense. It doesn't add up. It's constantly contradictory.

      again. grateful that you are still responding to comments.

    • David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      Kyra's disappearance is a complete mystery to me. She never said anything to anyone. She just stopped. Her blogs are still there, but never updated. If I had to guess, I'd say she decided not to me her thoughts public anymore for personal reasons.

      The approach was pretty bad at times while Jerry was very active. Back then, Abraham said that aging was just an idea, not a fact of life that affected everyone, that dinosaurs and people were on the planet at the same time, that all deaths were suicides and you could cure yourself of any condition if you believed it could happened and wanted it. Those last two became issues when Jerry and Esther went over the top, trying to evade the truth of his cancer and eventual death from it. They stopped referring to death and "croaking" and forgot all about how "It's always good to see the old ones go." See, the crazy was there all the time. So was a lot of other deep stuff, but you had to sort through it. There were plenty of enablers, including Wayne Dyer and Hay House.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      these were youtube videos that others have posted but have yet to be pulled by the Abraham-Hicks orgn.

      What is your thought on what has happened to Kyra?

      I posit that Esther has been faking it the whole time and that since Jerry died/transitioned (not croaked), the faking has taken on a different less controlled, less intelligent (imo) approach.

    • David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      The YouTube videos were all intended to be promotions for the books and workshops. They've hired professional teams to produce them, just like commercials. It's pretty effective, giving something away free to attract new customers, a very well-known strategy. It works for them.

      Just one more Jerry tidbit. In his last years, he was obsessed with how AH came off online. He stayed up half the night, searching around the Internet, countering negative comments with fake personas. Like other publishers, the books got a lot of fake reviews from created personas. Even after he died, some people kept it up. I used to get a lot of fakers on my posts. So did Kyra. I'd love to know what became of her. (I have an idea.) Nobody ever vanished as abruptly and thoroughly as she did.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      The 'channeling' Napoleon Hill would pop up here and there. I've heard the story a few times. Much to my chagrin, I've heard more seminars than I ever care to. Ironically. My spouse has downloaded them from YouTube and burned them to disc and loaded them on his phone. I'm re-reading your book. I feel as if I'm having to de-program myself. In your description of tenet #4, you describe Esther as an 'untested spirit channel.' I would love to find a way to test her.

      I'm quite familiar with the trademarking law of attraction story. You cover it in your book and your blog. I think that Kyra has it on her blog also. The piece about Jerry throwing a fit plus the guest blog posting by Anilhara paints a very clear picture of Jerry for me. Another bit of irony. Jerry and I are from the same region of Arkansas.

    • David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      I'm not familiar with the channeling Napoleon Hill narrative. It must have come up after I stopped paying attention. Hill was Jerry's guru, but when they got popular, it wasn't Hill but Seth (dumbed down) with Theo for presentation. Jerry kept butting in though, which accounts for the dull sections in the books and ideas that contradict each other. The three step method -- You ask, they deliver, you allow -- was invented to explain why people were not getting their stuff, as expected. They spun that out into the "Vortex," which meant that everything was delivered, just as promised, but it was waiting for the right moment.

      An interesting thing you may not know is that Jerry tried to trademark "Law of Attraction," but was shot down because the phrase had been in use since the 1920s. Apparently, he tought he could slip it through, and an acquaintance who was present told me that Jerry flipped, raging up and down the aisle of the "monster bus" when he got the news. Shortly thereafter, they came up with "Vortex of Attraction," which really was original and clunky.

    • David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      It's interesting what she gets away with, but as with other faith based preaching, followers make adjustments on the fly that keep their beliefs intact.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I'm also questioning the validity of the whole Napoleon Hill narrative they pushed for years. The story about her attending one of Jerry's 'Think and Grow Rich' presentations and then 'channeled' Napoleon Hill later in Jerry's car at which time Napoleon allegedly told them that he was so happy that Jerry was going around presenting his work and furthermore that he intended for 'vibration' to be in the book but it was edited out. Why didn't she channel Napoleon right there in public for all to see?

      . HMMM! Sounds familiar. Isn't that also the same story given in regards to the Secret? When in truth about the Secret was that Jerry and Esther had a falling out with the writer/producer of the film? The other part of the Think and Grow Rich narrative that Jerry just happened to find this book in a motel room . . . Not buying it. Later he finds a new edition in a book store with the word vibration put back in. I've been reading about Napoleon Hill. He does not credit vibration for his success. He credits Andrew Carnegie.

    • James Clinton 4 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      a spiritual guide should be consistent and actually intelligent. 'Infinite Intelligence' should actually be all knowing/intelligent.

    • David Stone 5 months ago from New York City

      Don't be so angry, J. If you actually pay attention to Abraham, you'd know that you shouldn't be so troubled by other people's opinions. And if you read the book, you'd know that nowhere does it express disbelief in the law of attraction.

      "Who writes an entire book simply to discredit somebody else?" Plenty of people, actually. Books debunking all sorts of things and claims are fairly common. It seems your main issue is, #1, you conflate law of attraction with Jerry and Esther and end up needing to defend both. Second, you haven't read the book, which this hub is not about anyway, and have no basis for complaining. If a law of attraction technique worked for you, great. You aren't the first or last. The philosophy and various ways of using it has been around for nearly a hundred years. That does not, however, validate everything Jerry and Esther did with it.

    • 5 months ago

      Who in their right mind writes an entire book simply to discredit somebody else ? It seems the only one monopolizing off Abraham here is you. It's no surprise you don't believe in the law of attraction . I healed myself of epilepsy using these techniques, not based on abes teachings, but through my own channeling of the same teachings as they are universal law regardless the source. We can change our experience through changing thought patterns, but it requires learning a new way. Inevitably there will be those who don't want to learn and thereby find evidence for that which they believe, and although you say you don't believe in the teachings or their source, your own discredit of them proves their validity, but you may be too daft to understand that :)

    • David Stone 5 months ago from New York City

      By the time Jerry died, it seemed clear that Abraham had left the building. I'm not aware of anything much after that because I stopped following, even as skeptic. Situation was static.

    • James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      According to 'Abraham', 'they' don't see gender. 'They' only see blobs on chairs. Well. Here's another contradiction that people in the room didn't catch. I don't recall the exact seminar in which this incident occurs because it's been some time ago that I watched it. Anyway. A very attractive man is in the hot seat and Esther (Abraham) gushes over him. I think it is a post Jerry seminar. It's quite creepy.

    • James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      According to 'Abraham', 'they' don't see gender. 'They' only see blobs on chairs. Well. Here's another contradiction that people in the room didn't catch. I don't recall the exact seminar in which this incident occurs because it's been some time ago that I watched it. Anyway. A very attractive man is in the hot seat and Esther (Abraham) gushes over him. I think it is a post Jerry seminar. It's quite creepy.

    • David Stone 5 months ago from New York City

      That was the bit that turned me. I was working close enough to feel the first impact and to be in the street watching when the second plane hit. It was such that no one would ever believe Esther's version, but she'd backed herself into a corner and couldn't get out. She never foresaw that event.

    • David Stone 5 months ago from New York City

      Yeah, there are clearly some things to work through, but it doesn't need to be that hard. I'd continue to try not confronting him and give him the leeway to find his way out.

    • James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Reading y0ur book. Just finished the paragraph about the way Esther/Abraham suggests that those who died in the terrorist attacks on 9/11 were 'delighted in dying' and that they attracted (paraphrasing) the attacks. OMFG. I doubt very seriously that the families of the victims don't feel this in the slightest. I'm sure that the first responders who died as a result of their illnesses from that horrible event did not experience delight prior to dying. I just want to walk up to Esther and slap her for being so insensitive.

    • James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Reading y0ur book. Just finished the paragraph about the way Esther/Abraham suggests that those who died in the terrorist attacks on 9/11 were 'delighted in dying' and that they attracted (paraphrasing) the attacks. OMFG. I doubt very seriously that the families of the victims don't feel this in the slightest. I'm sure that the first responders who died as a result of their illnesses from that horrible event did not experience delight prior to dying. I just want to walk up to Esther and slap her for being so insensitive.

    • James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Thanks David for the great response. I'll check out your current book and look forward to your new book. You are right. I know my husband. He'll just dig in deeper. It's sad. He's such a smart man. But. He did fall for the evangelical christianity stuff back in the early 70's . . . so . . . I'll just bide my time. There are other issues in the relationship that have to get resolved anyway . . . Those are more important than exposing EH.

    • James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Thanks David for the great response. I'll check out your current book and look forward to your new book. You are right. I know my husband. He'll just dig in deeper. It's sad. He's such a smart man. But. He did fall for the evangelical christianity stuff back in the early 70's . . . so . . . I'll just bide my time. There are other issues in the relationship that have to get resolved anyway . . . Those are more important than exposing EH.

    • David Stone 5 months ago from New York City

      Lots of big questions there, and I am at the moment working on a book about my own experiences with AH and what I discovered. It's complicated, but I'll leave that for later. Book, tentatively titled "Tangled Up with Abraham Hicks," should be on the market by summer. I already have one, "Jerry and Esther Hicks Spiritual Money Tree" that's been my bestselling nonfiction so far.

      I'm not sure which comment got lost, but what I recall is suggesting being patient with your husband. Challenging people in these situations tends to harden their resolve. Take it from me as a skeptic who's gotten enough push back to last a lifetime and much of it angry. Let him work it out.

      You're on the right track with the other stuff. Most of Esther's family was Mormon, and if you can find a practicing Mormon who hasn't been treated to a deluge of opinion, it'll be a first. I have quite a few Mormon friends and find them the most easily likable religions people I know, but jejune they are not.

      I think all that was part of an origin story that got created along the way, but there are several. That's just the one that was active at the time "Ask and It Is Given" came out. Jerry's past history was certainly part of it, but what powered them, I think, is genuine belief in the Seth Material from Jane Roberts along with Napoleon Hill. The public presentation seems to have been borrows from Theo who they had a session with before Abraham appeared.

      The only book to come out since Jerry died is a transcript of a conversation between Abraham and Wayne Dyer that Hay House set up. As I understand it from a friend who knew them well, after they signed the big book deal with Hay House, Jerry was on Esther's ass all the time to get them written. He edited the final versions and added some things of his own. The material was mostly lifted from workshops and reworked. Once Jerry died, Esther reduced the workshop schedule and stopped producing new books. I think the Wayne Dyer thing was a compromise to close out the contract Jerry negotiated.

    • James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I got an email that there was a new comment here. I don't see it. I see the one I read two days ago by SaraB42. I'm growing more and more distrustful of the whole Abe ideology. My husband is going deeper in. Ugh! I've noticed one thing in particular. In the earlier seminars, Esther/Abraham would say that the reason that Esther could receive Abraham is due to Esther's complete lack of any prejudices or opinions about anything. Bunk. I've never met an adult without any. Plus. The way Abraham describes Esther today and even in previous seminars, Esther has quite a few prejudices. As a rule, people don't change drastically - small changes, yes. So. I doubt very seriously that Esther was completely without any prejudices or opinions. Plus. I take into account the following: Jerry's history with Amway, the circus and other dog and pony show experience. Am I correct that there have been not recent books since Jerry died? I know I read that either here or one of David's or another Abe is fake blog. If I'm correct, why do others not see that? Isn't obvious that Jerry was the mastermind behind all of this?

      I want to find a way to trip her up when I attend the workshop in April down in Asheville. I want to expose this dog and pony show for what it is, a scam - just like Amway.

      Anyone have suggestions?

    • SaraB42 5 months ago

      About 20 years ago I first heard about AH when someone gave my mom one of their books during her cancer treatment. Initially, I followed my mother's trend that this was bunk stuff that blamed people for their own illnesses. I still agree with that to SOME extent. But hey, when you smoke and drink and you get cancer...don't act surprised. Also, if you think positively and stay in a good place, there are actual immune-responses that have been studied but LITTLE understood by the scientific community; my mother (anecdotal, yes) was one of them. Her illness was so severe at diagnosis, they thought she would live two years. She lived 13 and battled cancer four more times. She lived FULLY. She smiled. She was courageous. Even her doctors said, they could find NO other explanation for her success than her attitude and her attention to well-being. The chemo was not credited with her amazing longevity. She did NOT read AH or "practice" LOA. But, actually, she DID, right?

      So, AH came across my path again this year. I'm listening and reading. I'm now an LMHC. What I can tell you is that I don't care whether Esther is channeling or not. I don't care if she's running an amazing business. As a well-read and educated practitioner, there is MUCH of the essence of what AH/Esther say that is very powerful for people who are stuck in a rut, believing that they cannot rise out of their circumstances. I don't think what they're doing is miraculous and I DO think there are many different paths to this same result (satisfaction, success, peace). In reality (Earthly), thinking negatively puts blinders on. You only see crap when all you think about is crap. When you think about how wonderful and purposeful rain is, then you feel less like a rainy day is a sucky day. When you think that one bad year is the end of your chance for success, then you'll probably not actively be looking for a better shot. Probably AH has helped more than it has hurt.

      And so, when people who are quite ill, quite uninformed, or quite desperate use AH to fix all their horrors, they will do things (or refuse to do other things) that seem...like long shots, and they are. Ignoring the science completely is foolish. Adding a little extra "magical thinking" to a predictable outcome might make it fare better. I have heard that if I put a crystal on my dashboard, my battery will last longer. That doesn't mean I'm going to eventually remove the battery and put a big quartz under the hood. If I did, I ought not be disappointed when it doesn't work. The science is pretty clear.

      As for my own experience, once I feel like I've solidly got the gist of "alignment," I'm out. I'll be applying it in the ways the work best for me: I am worthy, I deserve the things that I desire and Love and All is coming. I am in abundance: life is truly pretty damn good!

    • Nick 5 months ago

      Let these sheeple buy the snake oil. They resist truth, so let's sell them some holy-water for 16 easy payments lf $39.99.

    • David Stone 7 months ago from New York City

      When exactly did I ask for your counseling? I can't remember.

    • David Stone 7 months ago from New York City

      Or it just might be that you see what you want to see and disregard the rest.

    • Ted 7 months ago

      Was Edgar Cayce for real? If you don't know what he did that seems impossible to conventional thinkers then dont pretend to know things about how this world works. Keep in mind Ester has told us that Abraham is a group of people whom have lived before us and are now in the non physical realm. Doesnt that make them human in a way and prone to the mistakes that humans by their nature of being human can make? Life is what you make it. If you have a talent for something then use it. If somebody else has a talent for something and you can benefit by tapping into it... Then do it. If Abraham annoys you for any reason.... Stay away.... Just like you would with anybody else the annoys you. Iam not missing the Jerry Springer show either... It's annoying! This critique about making money from the critics? How lame is that?. You want to live life? You better make, earn, or find a way to attract money.... Otherwise you will be homeless or living under somebody else's roof that makes money. Abraham can benefit those that are open minded to what is possible.... If you think Abraham is a fraud... Then forget about it. Life is about choices.... Chose what you think is best at the time you choose it. Then move on... If you make a bad choice.... Learn from it and move on.,. Life is what you make it. . Make it the best you can with guidance from anyplace you find worthwhile..

    • Ted 7 months ago

      Have you ever considered that everything is evolving or regressing? Have you ever considered that Abraham is also evolving as the non physical entity it claims to be? Have you ever considered why does the double slit experiment reveals the same result under laboratory conditions with the exception of the effect live observers have on the experiment? Do you realize that at the molecular level everything is vibrating? Have you ever considered that thought produced by the human mind sends off measurable electrical energy?... My point in posing these questions is for people to understand what this reality is and how our interpretation of it affects the nature of it. Abraham has limits just like everyone else. One more.... Can you Tell me if Edgar Cayce was a fraud? My point is simple in all of this.... Understanding this Universe is like peeling an infinite onion... What do you think is going on at the Hadron Collider? I think they are exploring the inner workings of the universe because we still don't have the answer to the theory of everything. So... Until you answer my questions as it relates to Ester and Abraham.... I don't think you have thought this critique out far enough. Here is what I do know... Meditating consistently improves my ability to predict events before they happen more often. It also helps me in some way to bring more if what I want into my life. Why is that true for me? Well, it might have something to do with the law of attraction in this attraction based universe... But .... What do I know?

    • David Stone 7 months ago from New York City

      Too each his or her own, of course, according to where they are in the moment. Listening to recordings made more than ten years ago recently, I see that she and Abraham were once very much on point, clear and engaging. It may be that things have gone on for too long without a lot of new material to add to the teachings or maybe life changes caused a kind of disconnect.

      Even so, at this point, Esther may still be a good starting point or interim solution for some trying to follow these non-mainstream paths.

      Thanks for your thoughtful comment.

    • Morgan1967 7 months ago

      (Having some tech issues posting here so excuse any duplicate or incomplete posts). I embraced the Abraham teachings for a few months but just had a bad feeling about it that I couldn't shake. My take on it is that Esther is either not actually channeling OR..It's possible Esther does channel at times but it seems like Abraham is either a lower energy (not a lot of loving vibes coming from them..have you noticed?)...and/or Esther is perhaps not a clear channel for the energy. If you want to channel high vibrations, you must be of a higher vibration as well, much like an Eckhart Tolle or someone of that caliber. (I realize he doesn't channel..or at least he doesn't admit to this..but he probably could.) I do believe channeling is possible if the individual is clear of any emotional baggage and they have successfully dissolved any ego issues...but this is quite rare and difficult to "hold" on an ongoing basis. I watched the talk between Abraham and Wayne Dyer and it was incredibly awkward. Wayne seemed totally uncomfortable. I just want to say that if you want to learn basic LOA techniques, Abraham is a good place to start..although I find them a bit rigid. Manifesting is not that complicated nor does it require so much perfection with "feeling good" 24-7. However, if you are looking for deep spiritual awareness and growth, Abraham is probably not the best path to follow and could bring up a lot of confusion and destructive messages, especially for someone new to a spiritual awakening. I would go to, as I mentioned Eckhart Tolle for that. I guess I'm just amazed at how many people have bought into it but hopefully they will awaken to realize the path they are teaching is incredibly narrow and lacking love and compassion.

    • David Stone 7 months ago from New York City

      Very well said. Thank you.

    • Nino 8 months ago

      Well ill try to point out some credibility about Eshter... I must confess that the more i listen to the material, the more confused, and detached from reality i get, especially when i begin to look at process of going out in the world and busting my balls to succed as "manifesting", i cant help but to feel the delusion, or when i believe things will come to me, or when i start desperately affirming to myself something that is far from reality.... However i also learned that you wont achieve ANYTHING if you dont belive you can, and you wont ever change your life if you keep believing what you believe ( vibrating, eh? ). What they preach might be a bit oversimplified, sometimes dull and repetitive but taken with a grain of salt, its a different story. As if you would join a church, or a guru and blindly follow the ramblings hoping you will find the missing link to completion, so approaching Abraham with that intent would lead to disappointment, pointing out everything that could be wrong with all the teachers you were "scammed" by when the problem was not theirs to solve in the first place. Dont give your power away.

    • Gothinkmore 8 months ago

      Yes and know. Ester and Abe are into something . Yes matter comes from thought and opportunities to create new circumstances for creating new things which create circumstances come from thought. Yes thought is a vibrational frequency. Matter and circumstances ( potential) is also vibrational frequency. Do I think that they no the ( secret )......no .

      Do I think they are necessarily the best teacher with the best intentions??..... no

      .UNIVERSAL LAW

      There are no truths only half truths

      No-thing is as it appears to be

      No -thing (is ) for it ap(pears) to be

      Yes....this is gonna take done thought to understand if you don't already.

    • Qq 8 months ago

      @Jo35 I really like your comments!

    • David Stone 9 months ago from New York City

      No, they weren't, and no, I won't. It's silly.Nice try, though.

    • Tina 9 months ago

      Jesus and many other gurus on this planet were teaching the same thing, the listeners, writers and translaters just misunderstood the message and used the religion to get power for themselves. We are all divine. You will understand that some day.

    • David Stone 13 months ago from New York City

      I find your comments pretty much incoherent, a scattershot defense of someone you believe delivers for you. As far as I can tell, you think that this has something to do with some religion I follow, although I can't really tell, but it doesn't. If you hope to make a sensible response, don't do it on a cellphone. And focus on the issues, not trying to find fault with the writer. This article is not about me, although your comment seems to be.

    • Chad 13 months ago

      David,

      Do you think you have a better insight / idea on how to treat people and how we should find the better in life situation that might otherwise knock a person mentally/spiritual/emotionally Down?

      Do you believe in "God", or do you understand that "God" was a way to help create order in a society without rules or repercussions for disorder? - I am excited for your response to this one.

      To quote your article : ""source," a term she chooses instead of God, although what you and ""I"" (to point out "I", I cannot italicize or bold from my phone) call God is what she means."

      - come on! Don't you think it is a little childish to believe in a higher being that sits above us watching every move and determining where we get into either a good place or a bad place when we die?

      There is a similar sorry for children , except this story focuses on the winter season. You might know it, children have a hard time going outside to play due to weather they need to be good (calm and orderly) otherwise they go on the bad list and don't get gifts from a guy watching their every move to make sure they were good, maybe you don't know it. But I am sure you shared this story with your children until they knew you lied to them for years. I know it worked though. Those winter months, when everyone was kept inside out of the bad weather, were much more smooth when we could threaten children with taking away gifts if they didn't act right.

      You're 15-16ish reasons you think someone else is wrong in their teachings or beliefs makes for a good article but you are only beating a dead horse with its own legs. Every religion or belief system has holes in it and everyone that believes with tell you "that's why it's called Faith".

      Not to jump to deep into your own beliefs but you have to egoistic or atheist to write a article like this otherwise I can give you 100's probably 1000's of reasons your religion and its teacher is a hoax as well.

      Thanks for the read and the article it helped stimulate good brain power this evening.

      I am excited for your response or if I shut you down that might be better for you. I would enjoy the response more. A little intelligent internet bout it always fun.

    • Ben 14 months ago

      Just another cult type person hoodwinking desperate people.

      Next thing she will try and walk on water.

      Good luck

    • David Stone 19 months ago from New York City

      Thanks, dnabartell66, for your thoughtful response.

    • dnabartell66 19 months ago

      I like Esthers messages overall. Not her controlling tone, pacing, or channeling. Its very deliberate. I dont care so much for her money making greedy narcissistic nature. I do believe the pie could be equal. I do believe money is and can be a spiritual force for good or evil.

      Otherwise, behind all that tucked away in the feel of the words of the message itself, rings at times, of pure devotional love. I critique the words, the actual message, the information. The messenger is secondary. HOPE and wish she would drop the act and just be herself. Why does another woman need a man to prop her up so that she will be "heard"? Just when it would behoove her to have more emotional intelligence, she goes and blows it at times for me, saying something remote and detached. I guess the lesson i am getting is that its in letting go of the masks (channeling) and props (dead husband) that she really could be reborn into something evolutionary and revolutionary for her audience- specifically, women. On a side note, Some women have undiagnosed endometriosis or fibroids. Thats why they are in excruciating pain during menstrual cycles.

      There are environmental reasons for sickness, its not always in someones head. Healing body mind physical spiritual needs to be balanced.

    • David Stone 20 months ago from New York City

      I am sorry to read this, Rose. The so-called "teachings" have proven again that they can justify almost anything with the "If it feels good, do it" philosophy they enshrine.

      You'll bounce back and are certainly better off without a man of such selfish character.

    • Rose Learner 20 months ago

      My husband of 15 years who has been a devout follower of Abraham Hicks for 10 years, informed me 2 weeks ago that he wants a divorce.

      His reason is that he has fallen in love with someone else and that she was the path of least resistance for him. He says he was very happy in our marriage but this woman makes him happier. We have 2 young children. He will not discuss anything in regards to separations, children, the reasons why etc unless he is in alignment. He tells me that he will not listen to unless I am in alignment around this. So Thank You Abraham for your teachings have made a happy man, think it's in alignment to divorce from a happy marriage, because he is in love and cause heart break for his wife and 2 children.

      I was a follower and now I believe the teachings allow the followers to act out and display behaviours that are hurtful to others while they believe they are in alignment

    • Jo35 20 months ago

      I am one of the regular listeners to Esther, among other teachers, and it's definitely given my life a push to the better. I trust these teachings, but do you know who I trust more? My own common sense! I don't know if Esther is really Abraham or not, and I honestly don't care. I don't need for wisdom to come from a higher level of power to believe it! I never follow anybody's teachings blindly, I always take what rings true to me and makes me feel better and throw out the rest. At the end of the day I rely on my own instincts to tell me what's logical and what's not. When I listen to any of the new age teachings this is what I hear: "we can all afford to be a little more positive, trust ourselves a little more, have a little more faith and focus on what matters in life, on peace, love, on spending quality time with our loved ones, on seeing the best in others and especially ourselves, on distancing ourselves from ugly situations that we can not control, on trying to connect with our inner selves, and really listen to our bodies". It really does not matter where the message is coming from. You want someone to give you the manual for life, clear cut answers to what to do in every single situation. this does not exist! learn from every single source available but always trust yourself most.

    • David Stone 23 months ago from New York City

      I agree with you, Loa. Thanks for your comment. Good luck with your new teachers. Most people do best with someone or more like that in their lives.

    • Loa 23 months ago

      At first I was totally into AH'S teachings, but I found it that her theories are conflicting at times. And her voice is more of on the hard side, making it difficult for people to relax and get in the state of using law of attraction, the way she talks is just irritating and it feels like she is controling people rather than giving people reliefs. I came across other spiritual teachers, they are completely opposite of jer teachings, it's calm and relaxed, guiding you into a state where you are CONNECTED. But Esther's teachings are like battles, the way she talks as if she is trying to force a thought in your mind, it's just irritating. If you look at the interview between her and Dr. Wayne dryer, her non-verbal languages are completely off, you can tell she wasn't being genuine

    • Loa 23 months ago

      At first I was totally into AH'S teachings, but I found it that her theories are conflicting at times. And her voice is more of on the hard side, making it difficult for people to relax and get in the state of using law of attraction, the way she talks is just irritating and it feels like she is controling people rather than giving people reliefs. I came across other spiritual teachers, they are completely opposite of jer teachings, it's calm and relaxed, guiding you into a state where you are CONNECTED. But Esther's teachings are like battles, the way she talks as if she is trying to force a thought in your mind, it's just irritating. If you look at the interview between her and Dr. Wayne dryer, her non-verbal languages are completely off, you can tell she wasn't being genuine

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Infatuations with Esther Hicks always surprise me, but they are fewer and fewer, in spite of Hay House bending over backwards to reinvigorate the franchise. As you've seen, thoughtful consideration makes the so-called teachings seem juvenile and leaky.

    • Anonymous 2 years ago

      I spoke with a friend recently who excitedly told me about Abe Hicks...so I decided to look it up...vet them so to speak. Thank goodness for this article...I did read some of her bumper sticker wisdom...lol...it all very nice and warm and fuzzy. However... After reading this as well as other pro and con articles about Abe....I will say this...most of what you need to be happy and produce positive feedback from the world around you...you learned in kindergarten...and you didn't need to empty your wallet to get that info. I will also point out that emotions good and bad are part of being human...life is good....and Don't worry be happy...(from another great inspirational speaker)! Thank you David Stone...I'll call my friend now

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      So, Amelia, you believe only points of view you agree with should be published, is that right? And if they facts don't support your romantic image, they must be gossip?

      The thing you need to understand is that we live in a community, and if we see something dangerous, we are obliged as adults to say so, whether some people want us to or not. It's called being a responsible adult where I come from.

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Andy, look a little deeper. Esther has been careful enough to avoid liability to telling anyone to stop their medication publicly, that is, although I believe she has done so in private practice. She has certainly mocked the idea of conventional medicine (until Jerry needed it in a desperate attempt to save his life) by claiming, time and again, that one could become well "almost immediately" simply by changing their vibration, whatever that's supposed to be. The medicine, in her presentation, is virtually useless. Only one's belief in it, not any inherent qualities, make it work. Perhaps you can see what's dangerous about that.

    • Andy 2 years ago

      Hello College Student; Ester Hicks never told anyone to stop medication, quit their job etc. Her message was to focus on the positive while we continue what needs to be done. I don't see what is dangerous about that.

    • Amelia 2 years ago

      Why is it as soon as someone is successful people have to go out of their way to dig dirt on them. If Esters' teachings are interesting to you then listen to them, if they are not, then move on. Who cares where she got married or when, or whatever irrelevant stuff gossipers come up with? Apparently the fact that Jerry got sick and died (in his 80's) somehow proves both him and Ester are frauds. Who the heck doesn't eventually get sick and die?

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Sorry, but I do find Esther/Abraham scary at times and dangerous. I'll give you one simple example of the mother who was concerned because her child had a habit of kicking their cat. Animal abuse, as you may know, is a known precursor to a violent adulthood. It's also horrible in its own right. Esther/Abraham, however, doesn't think so. She instructs the mother not to interfere with her child's abuse of this small animal. The cat, according to the masters of the universe, is teaching the child something.

      Really?

      Animal abuse is dangerous, period, to the animal and to the child's future, which Esther has seeded with greater dangers to come.

    • Alice 2 years ago

      If we really wanted to we could find flaws with all teachings - people are not stupid -as humans we are programmed to be suspicious and question from a very young age - people just need to use their head - and take from all teaching what resonates with them. We all have the answers within - Ester....... Listening to how others interpret is just another way for some to work things out..... Folk who go and listen to Ester and Abe are not stupid....... They are just on the same wavelength at this moment in time and what she / they say resonates at that time and I think it very harsh criticism to say these teachings are responsible for anyone taking their own life - stop scare mongering please - just offer an alternative if you are not in agreement - thank you

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      The only puzzling thing for me, Gia, is that anyone continues to pay any attention to her. She's neither original nor insightful, but I suspect a number of people who are a bit short on empathy and consideration for other find that her statements, if true, let them off the hook for their lack of caring.

    • Gia 2 years ago

      Esther isnt a feminist or a modern voice for people today , she(i dont buy the abe thing) during "preaching" says long term marriage is the best route to go , now that is personal preference and not for every one ,plus it contradicts the teachings as they claim there is no right and wrong .

      I hope this isn't too gross dave but in one of her recordings of the live "shows" a woman genuinely asks her for help as that time of the month is very painful to her ,knowing each womans symptoms differ she could have given her better advice such as see a doctor and try eating certain foods etc or avoiding certain foods but what did the great estherham do she told her it was brought on by that woman ... and that any type of pain or ailment was brought onto themselves ..that was it for me this is similar to what many churches try to enforce on their believers the victim mentality to keep em' coming ...and they come in herds .

    • Gia 2 years ago

      Esther isn't a feminist or a modern voice for people today , she(i don't buy the abe thing) during "preaching" says long term marriage is the best route to go , now that is personal preference and not for every one ,plus it contradicts the teachings as they claim there is no right and wrong .

      I hope this isn't too gross dave but in one of her recordings of the live "shows" a woman genuinely asks her for help as that time of the month is very painful to her ,knowing each womans symptoms differ she could have given her better advice such as see a doctor and try eating certain foods etc or avoiding certain foods but what did the great estherham do she told her it was brought on by that woman ... and that any type of pain or ailment was brought onto themselves ..that was it for me this is similar to what many churches try to enforce on their believers the victim mentality to keep em' coming ...and they come in herds .

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Thank you, Wilma. My thoughts on the subject are that any such entity would be more exciting than the lame-o Esther trots out as Abraham. I run into people all the time with more interesting ideas than they come up with. This stuff is cotton candy for the spiritually lazy.

      Thanks, again.

    • wilma 2 years ago

      Good article, well observed. I discovered AH a week ago, and listed to numerous you tube videos, first with interest and agreement, then with skepticism and boredom. Personally I don't like when someone is up to fool me on any level, never mind the global conversation with the Source in a forth-full indifferent un-loving un-compassionate complicated yet boring manner - pleeeease.

      If these people (croaked Jerry and Esther) choose the clean road to talk about vibrations and law of attraction ideas from their authentic normal human self, that would be nice to have a couple of more wise teachers on the matter, who walk the talk. The main component is missing - warm heart giving vibration. Instead - cold head calculative repetitive chain of often meaningless sentences.

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Thank you for reading and responding.

      What you're reporting pretty much sums up the Abraham-Hicks experience online. The only thing I'd add is that followers are discouraged from thinking about things objectively. You just "reach fro the next best feeling thought" instead. This seemed to serve Esther well because, if you thought about it much, the whole charade fell apart in contradictions and obvious errors.

      Congratulations on getting out with your common sense still intact.

    • L.A 2 years ago

      some one reported being abused on the abe forum and the members swept it under the rug by giving advice such as "find the better feeling thought" "you've attracted these parents" "don't take action " try to climb the emotional scale "

      what?!?! lol I obviously being part of the forum (during my abe haze) questioned if action might be the best way at this time and was quickly told to leave if I wanted to and shut up by the moderators .

      You need action ,I'd rather take action than remain stagnant in the same job ,same social circle same horrid circumstances like a lazy douche .

      Abers ,the only ones getting rich doing nothing are the so called LoA experts teaching this crap .

      Thanks for writing this Dave I sure hope more people learn the truth .

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      It really does surprise me that this road show still goes on. I guess a lot of people find evading reality attractive.

      Thank you for your comment.

    • 2 years ago

      All those people who believe Esther will be paying the price later . Not only because most of it is fabricated gibberish but also because the basis or motto of these teachings are to avoid your problems and issues which can cause harm to anyone of any age . Avoidance wont help you abers .

      What gets me is when people ask about a bf that is cheating and Esther responds by saying find a better feeling thought ..excuse me ?!!!

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      You're welcome. I couldn't agree with you more.

    • Thanx 2 years ago

      Thank you for this really interesting article. It confirms what I was thinking about the whole ABE thing. It is really a shame that the Hicks turn(ed) some fundamental truths and worthwile concepts into some sort of esoteric disneyland... (an expensive one)

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Really, is that why not one of Esther Hick's defenders, in three years, has ever been able to point out a single mistake in this article?

      Easier to take the standard "You just don't get it" cop out. There is not much "it" to get.

    • Moi 2 years ago

      This text is mierda. You clearly have no understanding of Abraham's teaching's at all. Cheers

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      First of all, Esther Hicks message has nothing to do with optimism. I know. I write about optimism.

      Second, take the trouble to read the content before commenting next time. You are wasting other people's time with irrelevant nonsense.

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      First of all, anon, Esther Hicks message is not about optimism.

      And just a quick tip: try to read the content before commenting on it. It helps you look less like an idiot.

    • anon 2 years ago

      On the one hand the message is optimism and provides the listener with hope - hope is important. This in turn develops energy and the promotion of pep chemicals in the human system. Ester Hicks seems, for all intensive purposes to be a new age evangelist. Pretty much the same message different angle. At the end of the day, if there are people out there, and we know there are! who will pay money into this type of investment, wish them luck, it's better than pouring it into porn or drugs and alcohol! In the mean time WHY bag creative energy? if you have it down pat that you refuse to pay for more, then count your self lucky, but I would be careful about what strictures in judgement that one may lay out for oneself...

    • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      The source determines the credibility of what's said.

    • Sean Randall 2 years ago

      Why would it matter where the words come from?

    • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Nothing seems to embarrass Esther enough to drag her out of the circuit. Undiscriminating followers act as enablers.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Whatever became of that Transylvanian accent on her first recordings? Doesn't that embarrass her?

    • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Dory, I could not agree with you more.Thank you for your comment.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Esther and Jerry are brilliant marketers. They took this information and sold it to the masses like it was water in hell. Yes, this information is available elsewhere (like in the bible if you interpret it in a certain way) but they put icing and a cherry on it and spoon fed it those of us who live lives of hungry desperation...

    • jen09 writes 3 years ago

      Total fake. Nothing else needs said.

    • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @guruyogi: That quote suggests some danger, which I don't see. Experienced scientists have trouble grasping the concept, but even though we know a lot about what goes on beneath the surface of reality, that doesn't jeopardize anything.

    • guruyogi 3 years ago

      Presenting Quantum mechanics to non-scientists is the intellectual equivalent of allowing children to play with loaded guns. From the Book - Quantum Enigma .

    • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: I think you've summed it up nicely form the perspective of someone stuck dealing with an Aber.Thank you for your comment.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      I met a woman. very nice, very spiritual. Totally nuts of Abraham's. But had a strange feeling that she lacks empathy. So I saw some videos of Esther Hicks. I have never heard so much crap in my full life. The woman I met is so brain washed. Blames everything is our own fault because we are not connected to the source or vibration. Biggest things she talks about all the time is self-love. I don't get damn get a word of anything. So started checking out this Cult.As I write to you. I just realized this is concept of Self-Love is the biggest marketing and brainwashing trick Esther uses. Because when you have put in the mind of a person that you come first, your care or love to yourself is the most important. And anyone who does not agree with you is not connected to the source and you should cut all connections to such person. They are negative for you. Then these people will start cutting off connections, stop showing empathy and compassion. (One more member in the cult is born and money coming in.) Biggest bullshit is that people get what they ask for. How can a little child get cancer. Child did not ask for it. So the child can't speak, then they the parents are connected to the wrong source.According to Buddhism, negative emotions are part of human. We instead of running away, should find the source and apply the antidote. For example hate, person needs to find the source and then meditate on compassion and forgiveness. Running away won't help. Thanks for your post. I heard this woman Esther Hicks on YouTube, my heart and mind knew I was listening to fraud. You confirmed it.

    • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: I can sense your energy rising. Best of luck to you as you travel along that road.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Thanks Dave. I cannot believe I was so Naive to have fallen for abes false preachings , it just shows cleaver marketing never fails to lure people in and then keep them coming by making them dependant on the teachings . She doesn't teach unconditional love she teaches people to hate the other half or pity them for not being in the vortex and attracting poverty , rape ,suicide , murder etc all this is far from love its bordering on mentally sick . How can she say taking drugs puts you momentarily in the vortex wtf taking drugs is a big NO and she should tell some of them to get help instantly instead of shifting vibration .I have lost interest in spiritual anything , I still have my faith in God but its going to be a looooong time before I ever reach out to pay some fake "teacher" for life help or advice . I was doing well before abe now I feel I somehow managed to become insensitive and cold idk why but thats all that came out of my time with abe, like some have said they became isolated I too feel that way , abraham/esther makes you fear DIFFERENCE / variety and encourages delusional thoughts to keep you safe from the non abe populous in order for your performance in life to not be hindered by their negativity .. well newsflash Estherabe theres something called exploitation and constructive criticism your guilty of exploiting fear of all those of your clients ..btw 3 months of abe/loa free thinking I have lost 7 pounds , changed my friends(abers aren't sensible people you can talk to about life and goals I learnt), joined a club , am going back to study , started reading more and improved my eyesight with some eye exercises and healthy eating ....post abe feels soo good and happier than abe , I guess I had to go through that to learn .try checking the tumblr blog (i also suggest you get a tumblr blog its easy to connect to many people who are searching for the truth including some bloggers who have just started getting into abe check out the blog "mylawofattractionlife" Shes asking advice for her daughter whom she just introduced the LOA to . It's a public blog on tumblr so there's no harm in posting this link. I feel that attributing success to the loa and abraham is childish because its only your hard work and dedication that got you there in the end . Keep spreading this imo abe is losing followers every day now that these critic blogs have exposed her and the results aren't coming.. hehe wanna make a grid lol how's that working out for ya?

    • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Thank you. I've been a big fan of Kyra and Mariah too. Some others, former insiders, have shed some light on Esther and Jerry that helped me understand what they are doing better. I agree with everything you've said. Esther's telling people that all they have to do is change their vibrations, not what they do is risky, but anyone who doesn't have the discernment to see through it or just wants and easy way out is fully responsible for what they get. The information is out there, if they want it.By the way, you'd probably enjoy Anthony Robbins take on it. He is all about taking steps to improve your life, with inspiration. Thank you for your comment.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Health is another reason to not follow Abe !!!!! She claims you can eat whatever you want while staying a slim healthy weight .. yeah right ! My family is very into healthy living etc my mum does yoga my father played basketball throughout school and college hes athletic we are generally the sporty stay fit kind but after abe I decided to try out her method I started eating junk and not exercising and expected a very healthy weight like I always have maintained (previously with my healthy diet and exercise) . You can guess what really happened I put on 10 pounds ...10 ** pounds in ONE month and thankfully I was previously into exercise so it wasn't a big problem . I dumped all the abe teachings instantly , I don't need that unhealthy sick living and thinking in my life . I am thankful to the blogs Kyra speaks and post- abe by mariah including your blog dave stone .. its helped me lift the lid on this insane woman .. I feel sorry for those who believe her :( ABRAHAM followers Please stop believing this woman she is an absolute scam and no you cannot stay healthy if your lifestyle is unhealthy ! Nothing comes easy work is a crucial part of attaining anything in life ANYWHERE in the world ! I really wish some follower sues her one day .

    • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Thank you for sharing, Jen.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Hi , I want to thank you for this post and would like to share my experience for what its worth about my one year abe experience .It started in December 2012 and I was in relationship turmoil , my finances were bad and I wanted to move but couldnt at the time so looking (keep in mind I was a recent college grad naturally was still trying to find a job ) for motivation and came across Abraham Hicks teachings online I went into it , being a very passionate person I learnt everything quickly I understood the processes the grids blah blah blah blah I went out and bought the secret and watched the Abe vids all while feeling good I CUT negativity out of my life ... translation I cut the people who care about me out , my parents , my friends , cousin's etc all disappeared because I never talked or kept in touch with them I ignored everyone and stayed detached while being in the "vortex" . Suddenly I was busy writing a licencing exam (for my line of work) and I ended up running into my old "negative out of the vortex" friend , long story short I talked to her and she being quite the sceptic was calling abe out for the fraud she really is , but I just ignored her and let it be for 1 week , while focusing on my books I suddenly thought all these years if I had kept feel good and nothing else the important part of my life I wouldnt study I would not have finished Uni or be passing this exam !! I suddenly found out that I'm the one bringing these things to me I was the one applying the one paying the bills the one studying and memorising 2 thick books a day wtf was abe doing standing on that stage telling people to feel good ? How does that help ? I stopped listening to abe pushed all that aside and guess what she says anything you resist persists ..welllll honey I resisted you and threw your phony act out of my life and your not persisting :P I called my friends connected with family and now am so busy going out , working and having fun . I have long discussions on things I like and feel the need to criticise and I am feeling good while doing it I have interests/ hobbies that keep me travelling and visiting new places , experiencing different cultures and I LOVE everything I do .to the Abers open your eyes now before you lose people who are really worth it and your self identity as well .

    • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: No, sorry, my point is that nothing in the world operates with the juvenile simplicity you imagine. The deeper we look, the more complex and elusive. If you're too lazy to dig beneath the surface and expand your awareness with new knowledge, you will continue to spin your wheels right where you are now. If you're content there, enjoy. If not, now or in the future, you're always welcome to join the adults in the deep end of the pool. There's always room for people who want to learn to swim.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Actually I can but I don't think I will waste it on someone who isn't interested in listening . So basically your point is you believe the law of attraction exists but you can't make sense of it so you are not willing to make it work in your favour ...riiight k.

    She's real. Taking quotes out of context is a cheap trick.

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      • James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

        David Stone, THANK YOU for this very insightful blog. As I mentioned in a previous comment, I've grown very skeptical of the 'teachings'. This is especially true of the 'feel good' no matter what. I concur with other commenters about that. As a person who is very logical and very analytical, I find it hard to believe in anything in particular except myself. I never bought the whole christianity thing despite trying many different denominations. Feel good not matter what . . my foot. I really do believe that the AH thing is very cult like. Thanks again for the blog.

      • Chell 6 months ago

        I first came across them several years ago and they matched teachings I experienced back in the early '90s. Things that were never meant to be a 'how to' guide for living your life, just an explanation of how it all works.

        I quickly became delusioned with the Hicks clan, but as a philosophy of how it all works, I still like loa. Recently, I have noticed how following this closely actually makes people into self-centred a*holes bordering on narcissism.

        Seeing people's pain and ignoring them because 'ooh that will upset my vibration'. A total joke.

      • David Stone 7 months ago from New York City

        At the end of the day, dave, I agree with you. I am one of them.

      • dave 7 months ago

        Who could be bothered at the end of the day esther hicks has hellped many people create a better life for them selves that is a fact.

      • Ahovala 16 months ago

        I find it interesting when someone attempts to "debunk" something like Abraham or the work of Esther -Hicks. This Author overlooks some very serious points. While one could say that "Think and Grow Rich" was Jerry's Bible because Jerry taught courses on that book early in his travels. A little more research would have provided the fact that the "Seth Speaks" books brought Jerry and Esther into the work they do. Seth was also channeled. It seems like the Author just has a problem with their work. Everything and every issue that the author has can be attributed to any major religion David might want to recognize that esther is a NY Times best selling author that has successfully thrived for more than a decade.

      • David Stone 17 months ago from New York City

        Hmmm....

      • Haha 17 months ago

        You don't know anything

      • David Stone 22 months ago from New York City

        Commenters who can't handle critical reviews about supernatural claims sometimes try to take the high road, but that's not really it. If you're secure in your beliefs about Esther Hicks and her claims, some of them outrageous and borderline cruel, then you should have no problem with both sides of the issue being covered. Esther and Jerry understood this and worked their tails off to promote themselves, including sock puppet reviews on Amazon and elsewhere to overcome criticism and even aggressively attacking Wikipedia until they got a - mostly - positive review that didn't threaten the money machine. Wikipedia was even persuaded to describe Esther as an "inspirational speaker," not a spirit channel, which is harder to sell. People considering Esther's teachings ought to be able to be informed about both sides of her claims, don't you think?

      • Jazzkat 22 months ago

        I understand where you are coming from......it would be my hope that we can coexist and stop pointing fingers. What works for me doesn't work for you...Ive bought two of their books in ten years but have open access to listen to the material free. It has worked for me. The Secret..this concept has been around far longer than the movie in new thought churches. Regardless of what happened between Brynes and Hicks....You will never hear Ester talk negatively about her. You don't believe any of it..that is your right....just walk away move on with your life. Wish people could direct their energies towards the many truly harmful things in this world.

      • David Stone 23 months ago from New York City

        All I can tell you, Matt, is that most people get over it in time. That's not great news, but the good part is, most only stick with the more sane parts anyway, ignoring the craziness. They only time you have to worry is when they go missionary and try converting others. Your wife is probably a sincere seeker who just landed on the wrong guru temporarily.

      • Matt 23 months ago

        "Abe" has completely changed my wife for the worse . She now believes she is in the vortex and on a higher "vibration " than myself , although she claims that that dosent make her better than my self just a better place and more in touch with "source" , help

      • David Stone 24 months ago from New York City

        annon, I'll get back to you when I figure out what you're talking about. Maybe you can offer an example of what you mean by "bullying people on the internet." If you're referring to have opinions you don't like, that's not bullying. It's having integrity. So, what are you talking about?

      • annon 24 months ago

        If you're as happy and successful as you say you are then why are you bullying people on the internet who choose to see life in a different way than you

      • Reality 2 years ago

        Very easy. Questions you must ask yourself is what is reality? What is the truth or false? On what do you base your belief systems?

      • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

        Any addiction can be dangerous when taken to excess. I reported one story in which an Abraham Hicks follower - she listened to at least two hours of tapes every day and participated heavily in their forums - killed herself when the guidance she received utterly failed her.

        The interesting thing was that, after it happened, the Abraham Hicks Forum disappeared her and, taking it a step further, refused to allow as much as an announcement about her death to appear there among her many friends.

      • College student 2 years ago

        It's much more dangerous than it seems . People can destroy their entire lives just to feel better momentarily . I snapped out of it when I found stories of people stopping their medication,quitting their job ,being bad parents because abe said don't deal with your emotions and problems head on lol

        It is the worst advice anyone can give and it's sad to see people following her :(

      • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

        Although there are thousands of readily available examples of people who worked hard to achieve success (It comes with believing in yourself and the value of your actions), but as many times as I asked Abers for examples of success by using the simple path of least resistance or "reach for the next best feeling thought," I've never seen one in years of writing as a skeptic.

        In the end, the truth is, people who follow these so-called teachings either lack self-confidence or a real love for life and all that being involved requires. Life's great. Why wouldn't you jump right in and do your best?

        Thanks for your comment.

      • college student 2 years ago

        I came across Abe in my first year and bought the whole thing , thank the lord I snapped out of it before buying 100 recordings ,10 books and other enlightened merchandise lmfao to feel better ,which according to them is the only reason humans come forth into this world . Feel good no matter what ,even if you have to skip class or fail or quit your job just feel good ...wha?!?! I thankfully did not register for the forum but many college students would start topics asking what Abraham would do if they didn’t want to go to class and the responses were " don't go of it doesn't feel good" "too much resistance ,take a nap" etc etc obviously I felt bad for these kids because they would fail or drop out eventually and ruin their lives :/ I wish more people read such posts and understand they are wasting their time and nothing in life comes without work NOTHING ,so Abers get off your ass and work hard for those millions .

      • David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

        Brenda, you are welcome to respond at any time, but please try to respond to the content. A religious declaration has nothing to do with the facts listed. If you have actual evidence or a cause to believe something is inaccurate or wrongly interpreted, please say so in detail.

      • Brenda 2 years ago

        Well... we are all FREE to belief what we will.... I am happy you found your place to NOT believe Abraham... but remember....her words DO NOT teach.... but when what she says.... about practicing Vibration and then literally SEEING THE EVIDENCE APPREAR IN MY LIFE.... THEN that is very real for me....!!!!

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Sorry, D. If it helps you live more comfortably with your illusions about Esther, you are welcome to assume I'm "not getting the whole picture." That seems to be easier for you than responding directly or clearly to the obvious mistakes that prove Abraham cannot possible be as claimed. Your approach is pretty consistent among A-H followers I've heard from over the years. Never explain why you disagree, just claim the debunkers don't get it. Ho-hum.Although your last claim, about what you "heard ABE say" is preposterous and inconsistent with the established facts, I'm inviting you to supply the direct quotes supporting your claim. Five bucks says you can't, and neither can anyone else.Any takers?

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Interesting....I think you are not getting the whole picture. Plus picking out things you don't like and judging them that they are wrong. Sounds like ABE is not benefiting you except to have something to complain about. Mabe that's your place in the world. I have never heard ABE say what's wrong or what's right. I've heard ABE say it all benefits you in one way or another and the teachings are to be a magnet to more of what pleases you and explains why you are not getting them if that is what's happening.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Dear John, this lens isn't about happiness or inconsistency. It's about bad information palmed off as divine insight delivered through a specially selected person. You seem to have a robust life pursued with enthusiasm. Keep on keepin' on!

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        For me, in the end, the only thing that matters is how peaceful, joyous, and fun I feel inside despite what others tell me what is significant for me to think and do. You seem to me to be arguing that Esther and Jerry have not been consistent in their teachings and therefore are not true and good teachers, but you do not seem to be arguing that you are happier than the Hicks, which, as I told you, is my primary interest. I know I'm a selfish bastard. I suppose it may be something we can't ever know. I personally know street people who never work hard and seem quite happy and hard workers who seem miserable. As far as arguing what is ultimately true, one strong smokable hit of DMT will make it clear no one knows ultimately what the hell is really going one, but most are unwilling to look through that telescope of consciousness:) BTW, I hope the hell you don't look at my life for inconsistencies, you'll find an 'effing boatload:) Peace.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @hecame4u2: You've hit on a real conflict for me. All I can say is that whoever and whatever Wayne Dyer endorses has no bearing on the value of what he does outside the endorsement cycle. As a loyal Hay House writer and a close friend of the boss over there, he endorses pretty anything Hay House tosses at him. He's endorsed worse. Gary Renard, whose book I sadly bought on Dyer's recommendation, comes to mind.On the plus side, I recently read (and reviewed) Wayne Dyer's new book, I Can See Clearly Now. The book is a very comprehensive spiritual autobiography, going back to Erroneous Zones and before. In spite of what he says for Hay House, not once does he mention Esther Hicks, Abraham or the law of attraction. His successes are in complete contradiction to what she preaches. He works hard and never claims he just changed his vibration and, Whoopie!, there it was. The last third of his book goes off the track as Dyer seems to in his personal life, but even there, when its overflowing with woo-woo and religious junk, he never brings up Esther. I still like his books, except the last few. They are full of real world experiences and his learning applied to reality. Even the first two thirds of his new book is a thrilling recounting of his career, up to his divorce, heart attack, religious conversion and woo-woo, after which it takes discipline to read as he goes downhill fast without realizing he's lost it.I may have to stop recommending his books because people too often bring up the Abe connection, which damages his credibility. But in short, I appreciate what you're saying and am not sure how I will deal with it, going forward.Thank you.

      • hecame4u2 3 years ago

        Dear David,I don't claim to know whether Esther Hicks is "Faking infinite wisdom" as you evidently do, but I found your comment; "If it's a spiritual journey you're on and you want a teacher or teachers, you can find better choices. Here are some personal recommendations from books I've enjoyed", interesting, to say the least, since the first example you cite is Wayne Dyer. I have no issue with Dr Dyer. In fact, his book "Your Erroneous Zones" forever changed my life in more wonderful ways than I can adequately express. What I did find interesting is the fact that starting at about the two minute mark of this clip Dr Dyer says of Abraham's (read Hicks) teachings: "Since 1977 or 1978...I've been just an incredible fan of Abraham and I think it's the wisest and most profound teachings on the planet today" and states further that: "I'm a true believer. I just know that when someone is telling you the truth, and you really feel the truth, and it's in your heart, and you know you are being told exactly the way things are...it just resonates with me. It always has...and you've never missed in the hundreds and perhaps thousands of times I've listened to you...you've never missed."So...what more can I say? Ummm...Whoops...So much for a dupe like Dr Dyer as an example I suppose.Kind Regards,Russ PS, don't you think it a bit unscrupulous to force one to take a side on what may be two false choices to be allowed to post?

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Henri, thank you for giving me my laugh of the day early. Even the usually know-it-all righteousness of Aber convictions couldn't take away the humor.Let me tell you a few things. First, I have had three successful careers in my life, have earned more money than anyone thought I would, and am working on my fourth career, pursuing a lifelong dream. Happily married for 35 years with thousands of miles of travel I dreamed about under my belt, I think I might have some lessons for you.The first is that you've swallowed the whole thing. Without the effort that facilitates your dreams, you will go nowhere. Working hard, learning mastery and trying to be a better person are what got me success, very little of which I'd ever have won had I followed Esther Hicks direction to "reach for the next best thought" and that it's about manifesting by adjusting your vibration.There are grains of truth and inspiration in what Esther Hicks preaches. That's what makes it so dangerous. Followers like you latch onto that and get hooked on the sugar high that comes with it. And just for the record, so you get the picture. Neither Jerry Hicks when he was alive nor Esther followed the practices they preached. Both were hard-working characters as they built their enterprise, and referencing back directly to your comment, Jerry Hicks was well-known to be a manipulative control freak. He hounded Esther into writing the books they claimed Abraham channeled through, and now that he has passed on, the book stream has, of course, dried up. My practice is to look for evidence before I make or accept claims. Otherwise, it's just wishful and magical thinking. I haven't got time to waste on that. I'm too busy being successful.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        You could look at it that way, but there are probably better feeling perspectives. If I were in your shoes, I'd perhaps look at it as trying to get a real world, nitty gritty, hands-on understanding of how things actually work. Trying to control things seems like the most logical, most direct way of going about things... except that it doesn't work. I can understand why you're trying to make it work, I just have the experience to know that it won't. Fortunately, you're going to have that experience too, and that's just fine. I would also look at your need to take action as a common, but false premise -- that how you feel depends on the conditions, when it actually is all about your focus. Again, I understand why you're trying to make that work, and eventually you'll discover that it doesn't.One final point: What you're also learning is that you're never going to be able to tantrum your way into getting your stuff. I know that so many of us learned at a very early age that if we just freaked out and made enough noise, or just made it clear just how badly we neeeeeeeeeeeeeeded something and simply couldn't be happy without it, that these were effective ways to force an unwilling adult to give up the goods. Makes sense to go with what you know, and that's something we learn at a very basic level, but LOA is never, ever, ever going to give in just to get you to be quiet. That's such an ingrained belief -- that squeaky wheel just needs to squeak louder to get the grease, but LOA just doesn't work that way. Again, all of that is part of that hands-on, nitty gritty understanding of how things actually work.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: I am not aware of any Abraham-Hicks success stories, although encouraging a positive mental attitude and personal responsibility is bound to uplift some, no matter who the preacher is. A number of people have contacted me with stories of harm from their exposure to Esther's teachings. So, the blade cuts both ways, in my experience.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        How do you explain the success stories ? All the people Abe helped ?"The fact that you're asking confirmation from us means that you are not understanding what we teach because, if you were understanding what we teach, you would say.."Abraham, your opinion really doesn't matter very much to me because I have this guidance with in me.And I can really tell that Ive put these things into my Vortex, and I can feel where I am in relationship to them.And I understand that I could extract from any situation anything that I want with the right focus.In other words, you're really not wanting fortune telling, and you're really not needing someone else to confirm. You've got your own guidance within you.Abraham Hicks

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Don't you guys see that she is just taking all the money she can get getting richer and richer and making fun of people, telling them to accept their lifes current situation and everything is just going to be better if you just believe in it hard enough and only care for your self??? Open your eyes people. This is best propaganda ever for a New World Order!!

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Tommi, although you remind me of the incautious enthusiasms I used to get when I thought I'd found something all those old people missed, you'd make a better case if you'd actually read the material before responding. You might also be less overconfident, if you stopped to consider the point.First, nothing in this article questions what is known as the "law of attraction." Sure, Esther makes more of it than facts allow, but she counts on the gullible to ignore their own experiences in favor of an effortless life of pleasure. Never for a minute would anyone with genuine life experiences imagine that God (or Source, as Esther says) inspired millions of years of evolution to get us to where we can brainlessly sit around "reaching for the next best thought." You're here to live a life, not daydream about what it would be like to have one."I guess that you are attracting many negative experiences? Am I right, yes? I knew that." Well, no, but you believe you "knew that" because Esther conditions you to believe that others outside the cult must be unhappy. I've had a great life so far, three successful careers and a fourth in the making, never been sick, happily married for 35 years, enjoyed travels all of the U.S. and Europe, have money in the bank, and I am living life as I like, without alarm clocks or bosses. Oh, and I think Esther Hicks is a phony. So, what negative experiences do you think I'm having?"If you don't like kids, children, that's a very big sign of that you are disconnected. They thrive, you don't, so you hate them." Another chunk of silliness straight out of the Esther Hicks playbook. I love kids, have five grandchildren of my own. Unlike crazy Esther, though, I believe kids need parents, not the other way around. We get a lot of joy from children, but like every other species of animal on earth, kids need to learn from adults to be ready for a larger world. I know Esther says they are already well-equipped, but maybe that's another thing she always gets wrong.It puzzles me when people as inexperienced as yourself feel free to offer advice, as if you're some kind of great example I should follow. For the record, though, I've had a daily meditation practice for years. By the way, no one has a separate inner being. That's a precious idea. But you are whole, and what you call an "inner-being" is always there, awake or asleep, and with you through life. Finally, if you don't see the place for doubt and disbelief in your life, I've got a bridge to sell you that connects Brooklyn to Manhattan. Bring your credit card. Or, why do you think you have a thinking brain if you're intended only to pay attention to the easy stuff? It's a fantasy, anyway. Neither you, Esther or Jerry ever lived the way she preaches. It just keeps the unthinking in expensive seats, not so many anymore as fewer people fall for the nonsense, and that is a good start.Thanks for serving as the perfect example of a young Abraham-Hicks follower.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        My positive experiences and my physical evidences will make me never doubt these teachings ever again. I am sorry, but don't believing in Law of attraction is like not believing in Gravitation. It doesn't matter what you think, it is still affecting you.If you have never felt the amazing, happy, clear-minded ecstasy feeling that you get when you start to understand it and getting the vortex frequently (it's important to get momentum going), I think it's very logical that you hate it, because you see the others thrive and if you aren't in the vortex, that is really really bothersome. If you don't believe in Law of attraction, then don't. And it is funny because the universe are giving you more and more evidence that LOA isn't real because of your belief. But you are still affected by all of this, whatever of what you think.I guess that you are attracting many negative experiences? Am I right, yes? I knew that. You look like a quite resistant being on your photo (sorry), one that hates many things and are not fun to be around. You are also quite old, so you may have attracted much resistance in your life. When you croak/die, you are going to get such a euphoria you are going to love it. Unlike someone that frequently are connecting to his vortex, his death will feel like the next logical step and he will not feel the euphoria as he have already tasted how it feels like here on earth.The kids are of course the most connected ones. You know how happy they are. If you don't like kids, children, that's a very big sign of that you are disconnected. They thrive, you don't, so you hate them.I would suggest you to try meditation, and meditation only. Just quiet you mind. See how it goes for you. Do it everyday at least one time. Try it for a while, see if you can feel your inner-being. It's natural, but you have forgotten this during your time here on earth. The idea is, after a while your own body may give you evidence of your less resistance, so if you want to try it, just do it.Your wrote: "Like it or not, Shawn, doubt and disbelief are important tools in growing up." That makes it very clear that you have lost your natural connection to goodfeeling stream. Good luck everybody, and sorry for my bad English.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Like it or not, Shawn, doubt and disbelief are important tools in growing up. I understand what Esther Hicks preaches, but she gives you cover for copping out on a world you may not want to deal with. Thats just not the best way to use the gift of life.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        I noitced that 295 people like you, Hicks facebook page has over 80,900. Her post on fb make people feel good whats so wrong with that? Your squidoo page it filled with doubt and disbelif and i'm done with feeling like that, all is well

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: That's a pretty big "if," isn't it, Jackie? People like Esther Hicks thrive on others who are selfishly indifferent to danger to people other than themselves. Who cares what happens to the vulnerable people next door, as long as it "improves" your life and spirit? Is that the gist of your comment?

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Who cares, if what you take away improves your life and spirit? I get the need for open and free dialogue though.And please don't hit on my grammar instead of the topic. Drives me insane..lol

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Well, hermes, even Esther and especially Jerry never believed what you are saying. The stole the basic idea (law of attraction) from the New Thought Movement from early in the 20th Century, salted it with Seth's teachings (via Jane Roberts), then, for format, they copied Theo. (Just for the record, so you're informed of the facts, Esther and Jerry tried to claim a copyright on "law of attraction," which the claim came from Abraham, but were rejected because it'd been around for decades and the governing authority wasn't fooled by them.)It's more important for you to understand that Jerry never and Esther rarely followed the practices they preached. You probably know that Jerry rejected Abraham's teachings immediately when he fell ill with leukemia, just for one obvious example. If there is an "essence," as you say, it's something you gathered from your own internal wisdom, not from the dopey "teachings of Abraham."As for narrow-minded, you might want to expand your own awareness by reading Jane Roberts' Seth books or even Sheila Gillette's books about Theo. These are two people the Hicks team stole from, each of whom is far broader, deeper and original, not to mention more gentle and loving than Esther. You might discover that you're not as open-minded as you think and maybe just one more dupe for the Abraham-Hicks money machine.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        all arguments above are very narrow minded ...if you connect to the essence of Abraham -hicks you will know that its impossible for a human consciousness in this present generation to have such a powerful knowledge and such a level of awareness ...in my opinion these teachers , including Esther are the one of the most complete , simple pure and empowering teachings ever to arrive on earth !!!!!

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Isis. In a word, nonsense, but thanks for stopping. You will never convince anyone with a brain that there is no external world with its own complexity of energies, desires and openings. Obviously enough, there are some people who fall for it, preferring an unreal world to this one. You seem to be one of them.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Yup she's real. I know because I do it too and have received much of the same information she has before I even heard of her. It is real and it works. Of course sir you are living proof that your own reality can be made.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Miro, you seem to have got the mistaken idea that I was asking for advice. Dont trouble yourself. When I need advice, I know many smarter resources than you. As to your points. 1) I care if she or anyone else is faking something that intentionally misleads innocent searchers for a profit. Get yourself some consideration for others. 2) Trust me, my negative take on Abraham-Hicks has got me plenty, especially as it has encouraged others to take a second look. When they do, of course, the results are predictable. 3) Posting my books on the lens does tell much about me? Of course, it does. If anyone wants to know more about the author, they can find out. I dont see invisibility as the virtue you seem to think it is.Now, go have some hot chocolate and try not to be so angry. Esther Hicks will do fine without your trying to pick fights on her behalf. Besides, she doesnt really appreciate it.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Who cares if she is faking. Of course, there are no non-physical entities determining what she is saying. Is that the point? You have clearly understood nothing and your negativity will lead you to nowhere. Plus, do not advertise your books in the same page where you criticize Esther because that tells much about you.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: I'll give you credit, Josephine or whatever your name really is. Your group's efforts to justify Esther and Jerry's efforts has become more sophisticated with time. A simple statement would've been great and convincing, but you're all over the place with rationales and illogical connections, all in service to Estherham. I'll change what you've said to "This should be about you," not one more pitch to keep the A-H wagon rolling.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        I agree with you about the fact that no one should attack the 'messenger'. I personally have struggled with severe abuse in my marriage for the past nine years and although I've been aware of Esther/Abraham for many years, I never really took much notice. However, in my attempts at healing myself and moving positively forward in my life (after the abuser finally left), I was naturally drawn to many therapies and healing modalities. I wanted to move past the trauma and into a bright new life and I knew I could do this, but I also knew I could do with a helping hand along the way. Whatever you may feel about 'the facts' - or whatever statements you may 'quote' about Esther/Abraham, make no difference to me, because I have taken these teachings (rather than looking to the messenger) - I took hold of the essence of the teachings, (and various other teachings, including those of our Great Masters and Prophets) - and I can sincerely and humbly attest to the fact that the teachings helped me to move forward very rapidly from PTSD - and even my own doctor is so very pleased and proud at how far I have progressed through what seemed to be a PTSD that may take years, if not my whole life to 'get over'. So, to me, whether it's Jesus, or Buddha, or Seth or Abraham - makes no difference. The TEACHINGS and the general guidance and the love that is the fundamental root of all these teachings, is what truly matters. Trying to 'expose' Esther/Abraham as 'fake' or 'fraud' is just as silly as trying to 'expose' Jesus as 'fake' or 'fraud'... it's silly because you can never prove it outright - and yet it CAN be proven that countless real people have benefited greatly from the teachings of these people. I am not comparing Esther/Abraham to Jesus (I am a devoted sister of Jesus an He is my constant companion and Light), however, I am offering the evidence that you ask for, in that, YES, I have received a GREAT DEAL of healing from Esther/Abrahams teachings, and to me, the source should not be the ficus - rather the teachings should be the focus. And as far as the death of Jerry? Do we not ALL die at some point? Was Jerry not alowed to die? Was he somehow superhuman to you and others who keep questioning his death? Let the man rest in the peace he is worthy of. Let these people do what they feel is their calling - and allow your heart to open to a loving and healing life of all good things that this universe has to offer. Peace and respect. No, I am not attacking the messenger in you and I do respect your opinion - please give Esther the same respect by not attacking the messenger in her.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: What about this dumbed down concept has taken you 13 years to study? Sounds more like you're stuck than studying. Otherwise, of course, you wouldn't have come looking for this page and exercised the dreaded "pushing against." After 13 years, seems like you'd have figured that one out.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        you guys crack me up, I've been studying the LOA for 13 years now and I've never been happier... Get out of your own way and chill!

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Fortunately, Ian, your crowd is shrinking. Without Jerry Hicks' brilliant marketing to blind them, Abers by the dozens have chosen to think, and when they do, guess what? They walk away. Asking people to consider the possibilities is "killing" me. Are you kidding?

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        It is your black/white, right/wrong, you/me viewpoint that is killing you (demonstrated by the fact that I had to "pick a side")...not Esther Hicks or anyone else. Enjoy your destructiveness until you tire of it. We will all still be here, expanding, creating, welcoming, opening, wondering and caring.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Claire, did I ever claim that I channeled infinite wisdom from an exclusive source next to God or that all life was about was joy, joy, joy? You don't seem to get the point.But, it's just typical of you Abers who want everything to be easy and to be mollycoddled, no matter what you say or do. Look at this clown's user name. Are you kidding? Some guy who can't even make a complete sentence tries to show off for his friends, and you think I should just pat him on the head and say, "Nice try?" Let me tell you something you may have missed in life. When people do not push back against such behavior, it just continues. The individuals never learns what the boundaries are and maybe even gets the idea that stuff like that is cool and effective. Not on this page, it isn't. Look most Abers, you and he have some growing up to do.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Dave Stone, just read you reply to justslappeddavestone. And you think Esther Hicks is mean! Yike! Look in the mirror.

      • David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Thanks, Heidi, for deftly providing a 17th reason.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Abraham also says, we know full well before we come here exactly what we are coming to experience. So, with the disabled, or so YOU say, if you listened to the works on those situations they may be at a better vantage point in some ways than us... being able to have a completely different experience, whether or not you agree that they are disheartened or happy doesn't matter, your belief is not required. The parents will give unconditional love, understanding, enjoy their children and that is all a child needs. as an adult, most would agree, the hardships then and the thought that someone chose that life seems.. unbelievable. But, again your believe is not required. Abe says we know exactly whats waiting for us here and cant wait to jump in feet first. maybe listen with your heart not your head.. unless you have no faith. Abraham FEELS good. Makes people feel good. Why try to ruin it.. people pay to go see motivational speekers all the time! maybe think of them that way:)

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: justslappeddavestone (cool user name), I see what you mean. I can see, for example that you are such a victim of disordered thinking that you can't put a coherent set of thoughts into actual sentences and paragraphs. I can also see that you didn't stay in school long enough to learn how to use simple punctuation.Quick question, why do you think your opinion would be of value to anyone, given your obvious deficiencies? Even Esther Hicks can write a sentence, and I can't imagine she'd be proud of your efforts to support her. You kinda make Abers look pathetic.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        One who calls this fake can choose limitation if they will, if you have not had any spiritual encounters as a lot of people have then I can see that you are probably a weak individual who needs to be show proof or you live in a tiny box and allows yourself to be controlled by fear, even in the bible god said there would be no proof, it's all real to me and common sense that everything is god vibrating at different speeds infinitely, so this supports all of creation .

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Thanks, Ashley. Reads like a healthy take.In closing, you write, "...as Abraham says, just focus on appreciating the good parts." Abraham does not say that. Esther/Abraham says to reach for the next best feeling thought in various ways, but she/they claim to be the conduit for "infinite wisdom," not a buffet where you take what you want and leave the rest.If you must have a guru and not be your own resource, why not try Marianne Williamson. She's wise, fun and passionate without relying on magical features to bolster shaky opinions. Just a thought.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I read the articles on here.. I actually agree or can at least see the skeptical perspective of Esther Hick's critics. It's completely possible that it's just carny tricks or whatever. My personal experience with the material from watching Abraham over the last 6 years is that when you channel, it mixes with your own personality- it's a brain and a body with a heart and a personality that this wisdom is coming through. I think the teachings are all pretty much spot on- focus on the positive, miracles are definitely possible- I don't think reality is as fixed as people think, and we can become so much by setting goals, changing our perspective, and choosing what we pay attention to and how we think about those things. It's when Esther has to give opinions on things like illness that it does get tricky.. I have seen that sort of callous side come out. I think that's a part of her, maybe it's a result of having so many people depend on her, like a doctor that has to be brusque to keep his distance. I have no idea. maybe she is just mean. But the point is, my life changed dramatically from Abraham's teaching. your personality and life really do change if you do what she says. However, I would never forgo socially accepted and agreed upon realities like medicine for cancer, and for the big picture on things like grief, I wouldn't go to her. I'd get a grief counselor or a psychologist or call my mama or my honey or a friend. it's not a be-all, and it's not rational, and yeah she does give different answers at different times, it's not incongruent for me with reality. different answers are appropriate at different times, and the mind of Esther changes as Abraham channels through it, I',m sure. Being a Goddess-worshiper myself, I often think of Abraham as her higher feminine wisdom coming through, and of course as a part of that, she's human. Feminine religions don't need to separate divinity from humanness. you can be flawed, or complicated, and still be divine. that's how I see Esther/Abraham. it's one of those things- don't make it your Bible, or whatever- don't pick apart what she says- look for the bigger message, take what you like and leave the rest, and make sure to take care of yourself comprehensively- it's not an end-all, or a cult. don't get culty about it and you'll be fine. I try to practice her teachings daily but I don't feel the need to be brainwashy over it. as Abraham says, just focus on appreciating the good parts.

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Come on, now, Hector-exactly what results have you seen?My motives? To satisfy readers who search for information on the topic. I know you Abers would prefer that only one side be seen, but this is the real world. Get used to it.Congratulations! You've created a whole new line of excuses for the failure of anyone to get real results from these shallow teachings. I "keep people from results?" What a hoot! How effective can these great teachings be if I alone can stem the results? Maybe I'll work on Buddha next. Too many going all mellow over that stuff.Keep 'em coming, Hector. You weren't really serious were you?So, why should no alternatives be offered? I've read (or wrote) and recommend every book you see here. Balance shouldn't really offend you so.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I am not quite sure as to IF she is a scam or not... So far I have clearly seen results from her teachings. I dont know that she speaks to Abraham, what in MY personal, truthful, honest experience, it works. That being said, I have to question you (as you question her) for two reasons:1. What are your motives? The fact that you yourself write books and furthermore recommend books from other writers really does not help your argument. I dont trust you. Plain. Simple.2. By "exposing" Esther you get to people that may be close to achieving results using her methods (again, I believe because I have seen, real, concrete results). The reason you keep people from results is that the premise behind the teaching is "Truly believe and it will be given" if you get people to doubt her teachings, you are keeping them from well-being. Finally, I think that you just piggy back on Esthers broad fame to get folks to your website (and into selfish profit). Its funny how you google Esther Hicks and a completely unknown writer like yourself comes up.Things I KNOW for fact:- Esthers teachings WORK. Fact. - You benefit from poking at her and her teachings potentially hindering believers to be in their way to a better life.

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: When you get a chance, Powder, splash a little cold water on your face, take a deep breath, and then try to explain about how having an opinion that differs from yours amounts to "hurting others."And try to remember that this lens is not about me, but about Esther Hicks. I think a lot of you take an attack the messenger route because you are unable to respond to the material. Nobody ever really does that, and it's revelatory.The more I see this stuff from Abers, the more convinced I am that a lot of you are enmeshed in a cult and unable to think objectively or clearly. You didn't ask, but my advice to you is to look for some counseling. At the least, talk to a friend you can trust to be objective, if you have one. You may be in deeper than you think. Get some help while you can.We need more involved adults in the world. We'd be happy to have you contribute, rather than continue hiding behind the Abraham Hicks make-believe.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Wow! You spent a lot of time trying to hurt others. Why did you even bother writing all of that - so odd.Get a life of your own and leave others alone. Bet they wouldn't spend 1 second on you!

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Wow! You spent a lot of time trying to hurt others. Why did you even bother writing all of that - so odd.Get a life of your own and leave others alone. Bet they wouldn't spend 1 second on you!

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: I'm trying to get the thread of your comment, T, but it's impossible. A "fear campaign...?" Really? Where's the fear.You should be able to understand that disagreeing is different than no understanding, and since you've given no examples, your comment just seems wasted.I gave up trying to figure out what your Facebook comment means. What's your point? Is there one?

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I think your articles prove you don't really understand the Abraham material. Its unfortunate that you are attempting to create a fear campaign against them. Also, just because someone "likes" your Facebook page or views your Squidoo lens does not mean people were helped or hindered by your material.

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Rensi, that is not accurate. The messages Esther and Jerry came up with were taken from several sources, including the New Thought Movement, Seth and research by Michael Newton. They patched together a dumbed down version that was easy to follow for the spiritually lazy.The content of the message has not baring whatsoever on whether the channel is faked or not.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        But Esther says almost same thing as other say so all are fake or she is real?

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Of course, I'm "entitled" to my opinion. Everyone is, Suna. But you need to drag out your dictionary and discover what "slander" is. It isn't criticism or distrust. Slander means deliberate untruth. The next time any of the Aber faction actually comes up with a single untruth in the many things I've written, it'll be the first.Your problem, of course, is that you just don't like what I have to say. You'd prefer that I and other skeptics, like Kyra and Mariah, just "look elsewhere," since that would make your magical thinking more comfortable. Don't hold your breath.And if "this negative article" is not helping anyone, including me, how come I get hundreds of views and have hundreds of likes here and on Facebook from readers who either agree heartily or have been able to understand better what's going on with Esther and company? You're living fantasy.Suna, the vast majority of us need for people like you to become adults voluntarily and take part creatively in helping our world get better and better. Hiding behind religious fantasies benefits only the wizards and priests who keep their charades going on.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I completely disagree. They're amazing and I'm so thankful for them. You are entitled to your opinion but it is odd that you would make such an effort to slander people who help people yet you believe in the law of attraction? If you dont like them, look elsewhere. You are not helping yourself or anyone else with this negative article.

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Julie, your choices were, is she or isn't she? Pretty simple. And as far as we know, Esther Hicks is not a food maker, making it hard to understand how your comment about whatever "chemically filled gunk" fits in. And if you aren't "keen on the choices," why answer at all?

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        So what if she's faking, is she offering poisen, will her teachings force you to commit a crime, is there some dark secret, don't think so, ok she makes a bit of money. Better she does it that way rather than mass producing some chemically filled gunk and passing it off as food and then say it's good for you. She doesn't seem to be trying to prove to you anything. I'm not keen on the choices but if I have to.

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: There is no "conundrum" here, Liliana. What you have is the standard hocus pocus escape hatch. Blame the victim for not believing enough, not the teaching.A singular consistent characteristic of you Abers, especially the sock puppets like yourself, is that you haven't a shred of evidence to back up your fantastic claims. How about some proof, for a change, instead of the substance-free claims that all religions and belief systems toss out there.If you've got nothing, why not just shut up and keep it to yourself?

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        The conundrum is that their techniques only work if you believe in your power and the power of the universe, but skeptics want proof that it works until they can believe. You have to believe first, which is not easy, because its counter intuitive. Its seems impossible. Who in their right mind believes in things happening like magic, right? I know that people who dont believe, who are not ready to believe, cant be convinced. In order for you to see that its true, you really have to take the red pill and go down the rabbit hole. All I can say is I did, and my life is better for it. Im happy and I dont ever worry that my needs will be taken care of, because they just are, simply because I expect that the universe will take care of me. Its a leap of faith, but its worth it. This is something you have to experience yourself you cant be convinced. Your higher self needs to be ready for it. If you are not, you are not. Its that simple.

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Leah, this is one of the sorrier loads of garbage the AHP operation inspires.First, there is no such thing as the "Jewish Kabakah." You seem to be referring to the Kabbalah. If you actually knew anything about it and weren't just parroting, you'd have at least got the phonetic version right.What you're proposing is a hackneyed, poorly informed rendition of the familiar argument that critics "just don't get it." But you're a sock puppet and shouldn't be blamed. Whoever set you up wasn't bright enough to give you good information to put out there.If you want people to "thank Esther Hicks for who she is," you might want to send out more polished missionaries for the cause. This does not speak well for her followers, and by the way, what she preaches is not at all consistent with the philosophy of "a plan" you mention here. Esther says there is no plan. It's all created by us as we go along.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Let's get back to basics:1. If you don't have a quality with in you , you will not be able to see it on others - it's all about perception.2. No message of any kind could have been carried for so many years to so many poeple unless it has a truth that resonant with the deep intuition of people.3. Everything Abrahams sys through Esther is in the essence of the wisdom of the Jewish Kabakah which has been studied and investigated for 2000 years and tells you all about the nature of who we are where we came from and where we going4. We are obviously limited by our senses and somebody created us that way so our ability to understand Things that are so biggere than our selves is limited as well - like asking my dog to understand History.5. You need to be really blind to think that there is no plan , no creator , no what we call GOD ....where our ability to create a flower , a bird , a neurological system , a breathing creature is zero.6. Open your mind , have a little faith and expand your perception to see beyond yourself and you as well will thank Esther Hicks for who she is.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        NO! she is not channellling either so if you are going to make comment. Get it right! She is raised her vibration to speed to be able to connect with real nonphyscial ( I will use your common words so you understand ) enity. She bend light refraction.She trust her connection so much that she is will to let the public see her work. Sorry but do this work too and she is real deal. She is doing platform trance mediumship ... If you are going to knock her get it right...

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: The question is, is she faking or not. You're not sure, right, but you are very sure of some things that aren't true. Attributing what Esther Hicks preaches to a historical context to validate it is nonsense. "The Egyptians?" What Egyptians? The philosophy you're talking about was developed in the early 20th Century in the New Though Movement. Einstein had nothing to do with it and certainly never thought he could control reality with his thoughts. Neither did he try to pretend it wasn't what it was, as Esther suggests. If you'd actually read the content here, you'd have figures out that the fifteen reasons say nothing against the "law of attraction concept," but instead they are about Esther's (and Jerry's) ideas and philosophies on such things as animal abuse, medicine and evolution. These are crack brained blatherings of a middle aged narcissist with an mediocre education and an eagerness to make money selling snake oil.

        In as much as your whole, wildly illogical, error ridden rant so closely resembles various others who were sent by AHP to try blurring the issues with rationale, I assume you are just another plant trying to keep the shrinking business enterprise afloat.

        Esther's defenders would have a greater prospect for success if they weren't so sloppy and careless with the facts. It might also help her cause if they answered the specifics in a conscientious, intelligent manner.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        hi there! honestly I only read through 8 or 9 of your statements and then kind of skimmed some others.. my thoughts: let's say Abraham is a scam.. what does that mean exactly? the idea of law of attraction has been around since what, the late 1800's or early 1900's?? at least the idea spoken in those exact words.. long before, i believe the Egyptians: Rosicrucian "religion" was of the same idea. the thinker is in control of the results with their thoughts and im pretty sure einstein and other scientists have proved the same to be true, reality is 100% perception and not really real at all. so and let's say Esther is in this for the money.. who cares? really.. there are thousands of corporations out there making money, lots of money selling things to consumers that not only aren't good for us but are actually bad for us, all day every day people are giving their money away to someone who does not have the consumers best interest at hand. so if this chick is selling something that is not harmful and scientifically totally probable, and if it actually helps people.. well shit I say way to fuckin go! we all know how a bad day goes... it snowballs.. it's really quite simple to grasp the idea of law of attraction and it's not as "new agey" as everyone thinks.. so honestly I don't care if Esther is channeling a pile of dead shit, the bottom line to what she is actually saying, aside from the specific , chosen words or phrases that seem insensitive, the idea or summary is actually quite spectacular and hopeful.. just fucking choose to feel good :) so simple yet so brilliant. I haven't spent $1 towards the whole Abraham thing but I've listened for free and ive read about the law or similar ideas through varios mediums and ive rolled with it and I've seen many greater days living with the knowledge of "law of attraction" or whatever you want to call it, than I had previously.cheers and pardon typos.. posted from my iPhone ok I didn't want to pick a side cause my opinion is on neither of those sides, I'm on a different road entirely.. my side is "who cares" but I can't post unless I do... so....

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        i dont think anyone could answer questions in such a manner and with suuch speed without help from above. my mother did automatic writing on a typwriter for over twenty years and you wouldve never believed how fast the info would come thru.......she always said she is not a fortune teller but a messenger of love and of what is very posible. in these seemingly dark days any words of love and hope are something to hold onto. whats the difference fraud exits everywhere. like Jim N Tammy may they find truth as well. look up Betty Muench ,mom, she was damn good and died a broke woman but an enlightened one.

      • David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: Not according to Jerry, it wasn't, but don't let reality get in your way.And please scratch me off your list of people looking for someone like you to save us. Nice to be forgiven for whatever you think it is, but I'll just pass on that too. Thanks.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        He who judges, judges oneself. Ether Hicks and Abraham are right on with the info. Jerry choice was Jerry's choice to move on. It is called Free Will and if he was not dealing with his own shadows then he would have never manifested the experience with Abraham and Ether to begin with. Please do not question those of us who work to save you and your planet from your own chosen ignorance. You are forgiven, again.

      • David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

        @anonymous: First, Sarah, you need to make a mental note that this lens is not about me or whether or not I'm a "spiritual lightweight." Learning to spell Esther Hicks' name correctly might help your credibility too.For sure, for a price, Esther Hicks has helped many people by putting on a convincing stage show that pitched the ideas of others as if it were infinite wisdom. She and Jerry always counted on the inexperience and weaknesses of people who came looking for help. In Ari's case, her suicide followed years of listening to Esther's recordings for, according to her own account, two hours per day. Pretty desperate for this help you claim. She was also was let down by the Abe Forum, which raced to erase everything they could about her within days of her death and refused to even allow discussions about this avid forum member. Unlike you, they seemed to think there was something to hide.Forgetting for now that Esther also claims to be channeling her dead husband Jerry, your comment about being in "...an altered state, and experienced another entity speaking with you, telling you things," reads exactly like the testimony of criminals and schizophrenics who persistently tell us they "hear voices." Where's the difference with what you claim is channeling? Unlike with the voices that haunt the mentally ill, Esther uses these claims to justify unreasonable, cruel and inaccurate information. It's not Esther who doesn't understand modern science or who has the empathy of a marginal sociopath, it's Abraham. Either way, it's hogwash, and hogwash is, after all, just hogwash.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        While some of your criticisms may be just, there are aspects that you clearly do not understand. Ester Hicks has really helped many many people, and while the marketing may be annoying, I sincerely doubt anyone died from it. They are certainly not responsible for Ari's suicide. GET REAL. As for the channeling, if you've ever been in an altered state, and experienced another entity speaking with you, telling you things, you'd get it. Many of the stuff noted above shows me that you are a spiritual lightweight, not that Ester is a fraud.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Just because something does not make sense to you does not mean you are right in calling it untrue.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Whether she is faking it or not, You have to admit the following: a) We are the ones who decide how are we going to live our lives. b) The idea of mastering your mind seems reasonable; taking ownership of you life is reasonable and necessary. c) Most of the her teachings are similar or based on Buddhism. d) You will die regardless if you believe in or not, so why no make the best of it now, and yes if this metaphysical crap gives some peace, why not use it? e) I guess her law of attraction in regards to money worked for her, because while you only write a blog pointing out her scam, she is out there banking. This not only shows that your approach is exactly what she warns people about.. so who is right? You or her?

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        As long as their method is working I say, who cares?But I've been listening to some recording which seems it's been made different times because one from the 4 tracks sounds somewhat strange.Because the many people I came to know talks the same way all the time(with some obvious exceptions of course), that's enough for me to beleive she was in a different state of mind when having that one track recorded.As for the other article(s) about their personal lives I don't think it's anyone else's business.About the issues that some find offending:I think a paradigm which makes everyone "happy" has very little credibility.In my country we say "The truth hurts".

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        She is channeling....it is so easy to take things out of context. Usually the root of this discord is some person(s) who have an axe to grind. Maybe it would be a good idea to reach for the joy in your own life. I am sure I quote just about anyone on the planet, sage, genius, or village idiot and make them look bad. People have done this type of smearing with the bible and other valid texts....Yes the works of Abraham and Esther and Jerry are valid....put down your weapons people....

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        another commentYour purpose of wriing this article to get traffic on your site. I am sure this article provokes alot of attention and that's what you wanted. But your reasons are totally unjust and biased. You just argue for the sake of argument. You can't be a happy person after all.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I believe they have the puriest intention to help people. I am sure some people get a huge benfit and some people don't. We all have a choice what we want to believe in. They never force anyone to buy their products. We all should take responsibility for ourselves and choose what we want to believe in. I think anything that makes you feel better is worth it. There is no truth - only your beliefs.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Hello! You may like to know the researches of Lynne McTaggart about the power of intention. She wrote 2 books: "The Intention Experiment" and "The Field". She also has an audio book called "Living With Intention" that you can find on youtube. She recently wrote a new one called "The Bond". It's very interesting and has some resemblance with Abraham Hicks teachings. I see the Abraham way of conveying the message as more popular, simple, direct. Sometimes the people listening sound a bit like if they were in a church as they applaud and say "yeah" and things like that. But the main message is "care for what you think about" and that is what the researches of Lynne has shown. She interviewed a vast number of scientists and it's undeniable that there is a connection between thoughts and reality. I find this message very precious and the messenger and its methods are is the least important to me. Best regards.PS: I don't identify with any of the following two options about Esther being fake, but as I had to choose one, I chose the second. I would prefer a third option like "I don't care". :)

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        1. Your discussion of the theory of evolution is very ignorant. "high school science students know that this can't be true." What? You mean: it was taught in high school that this can't be true.2. You make many references to the fact that "Abraham" hasn't offered anything new. This merely demonstrates that the entity has been consistent in its teachings rather than changing them. This does not undermine credibility, it reinforces it.3. The money issue: if I possessed the power to channel a non-physical entity, there is no way I would not become wealthy from it. I believe Esther is a human.4. You make a reference to the ridiculousness of Abraham "smiling." If "Abraham" can induce Esther's body to speak with emotion, how it is any sort of logical leap that a smile could be induced?5. "I'd have been happy with a simple cure for the common cold." They have already provided this. You are very close minded. You assume that everything "Abraham" claims is fraudulent, conclude that their cure for the common cold must be invalid, and then criticize them for not providing one. Furthermore, the placebo effect has been well-documented in peer-reviewed studies. The common cold has been cured by placebo many times. This validates Abraham's cure.In general, I would say that you fail to understand Abraham's teachings because you refuse to allow your perspective of the world to change. Your article is more defensive than it is objectively critical. This suggests uncertainty with respect to your belief system.Finally, either Abraham is a non-physical entity or it isn't. There is no "halfway"/gray area. Many of your points operate on the assumption that Abraham is a real non-physical entity, but go on to imply otherwise. How is this logical?

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        Thank you for your candid and honest response. I appreciate your candor, because although, I am not a follower of Abraham, I am devoted to my family and friends.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        My comments weren't intended to offend you, which apparently they did. I was thinking from what I view as a humanitarian aspect and the teachings that I was raised with "of do onto others" and "two wrongs don't make a right". I have a friend who passed away because they followed the teachings or creed as you will of a religious sect called Christian Science. I am also familiar with the inner circle of the Hicks Family (actually the family members themselves). I guess where I am going with this is that I don't have to agree with everything to allow others to make their choices. I started grieving long before her actual death. I am still grieving the lost of my friend. I don't view that as being self-center or narcissistic. I was thinking about Jerry's children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, great-nieces, great nephews, and great great nieces and nephews, which I am sure you are familar with as well and the impact this will have on them. My friend had free will. She made a choice to join this particular Church. I admit I never understood all the reasons behind her decision, but she made her choice and as difficult as it was and following a few arguments over the year that I regret to this day because of words I can never take back we exchanged, I don't regret in the end that we were there to share good memories and I was able to be with her. It hurts and sometimes I feel anger, but I really can't hold the Church responsible for her choices. So I am going to ask and I hope you will be candid and share what exactly caused your anger and hurt. What exactly did Esther or Jerry do to you that caused such strong anger towards them? For you info, I don't follow Abraham's teachings. I do believe that each individual has free will to choose their own path and I do hope that that path includes humanitarian acts of good. So would you mind sharing your personal experience with those of us that are new to your site?

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        Have you considered how what appears to be gloating over Jerry's illness appears to others? He and Esther has family and friends who care about him as a person. It is ashame that the anger or hurt you are feeling runs so deep that you haven't considered that you are hurting others with your lack of empathy. Others say that Buddha,Sai Baba and Jesus are fakes. Could you imagine doing this type of attack on your co-worker who has a spouse with cancer or even a Hollywood celebraty or a Politician. I will probably be attacked for listing the three together in this example, it is just that an example. How sad that this discussion has taken this turn. A positive, intellectually provoking discussion was one thing, but personal attacks are another. Not all my follow her teachings, but in the United States we have the right to make our own personal choices. Just saying......

      • Jhangora LM 6 years ago

        I don't know who this couple are - but u seemed to have had a hard time following their teachings. While exposing cheaters is a good thing - I think it's better to focus on positive things. Forget them - I am very sure u won't prevent anyone from being cheated through these articles. All of us have to make mistakes and we do that despite warnings by others. Cheers!

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        u just dont understand

      • Guided Abundance 6 years ago from Mobile, AL

        I applaud you for taking a stance either way. The point is that you are at least using your brain, as many others just follow. I no doubt believe in Esther and Jerry Hicks, but only because I'm thoroughly read on them and many other Authors of similar teachings. Neale Donald Walsch and Silvia Browne just to name a couple. Try reading Sonia Choquette or Deepak Chopra if you are having trouble with Esther and Jerry.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

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          Jacqui 3 weeks ago

          I've been listening to Abraham-Hicks for a few months and found it inspiring because it is great on the high-flying disc where you are supposed to have access to what's in your vortex. However, I don't understand how so many people living the life with all the material things most of us desire don't appear to be on the high-flying disc. Some of them are down-right mean, miserable and arrogant.

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          David Stone 5 months ago from New York City

          You are in rough shape, kiddo. Get help. This rant in no way reflects the teachings of Abraham.

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          James Clinton 5 months ago from Washington, D.C.

          I'm so glad I found this blog. To Gaile Gamble who posted about Abraham/Esther's response to the election.

          a big THANK YOU! OMFG. I also started putting two and two together and got red states. I had recently heard via my husband (more on this later in my comment) that Abraham/Esther feels that some of the republican's financial policies are helpful. WTF? History has shown us that all republican economic policies are a disaster and it has taken a Democrat to clean them up.

          I started listening to AH back in June. Initially I bought the whole thing hook, line and sinker. My husband certainly has. I'm very much a critical thinker and am very analytical. So. I'm not buying it anymore. Just like I never fell for the religion/christianity crap. I've analyzed the teachings, words, meditations, etc.

          Something started to not ring true about all of this.

          It's the financial crap that she says. of course she can say the things she says about making money. Jerry was loaded already from being a financial advisor. But the thing that made me start to wonder if this was all a ruse was finding out that Jerry spent time in the circus. Hmm! I started to wonder if this was all just a parlor trick/circus act, just like mediums.

          I'm going to a AH workshop in April. I would love to figure out a way to trip her up and expose her. My husband is in this deep. While we haven't spent a great deal of money on the recordings or books (everything is on Youtube), i'm a little concerned that he's going to want to start going to all the seminars. He's spoken of such. I inherited some money from my mother that i'm trying to save it.

          It was also the relationship mediation that made me start to wonder about this. The meditation says that if you look for characteristics that aren't there, they will show up 'it is law'. I was looking for such in my husband , since June last year. No such characteristics have shown up. I've also noticed some contraindicative behavior in him that dont gel with the teachings. He has the tendency to fall for this crap. He was a big follower of Bashar and then Kryon, etc. I want my old husband back. I really think he doesn't see the cult nature of all of this.

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          David Stone 7 months ago from New York City

          Party on, Ted. You seem to be having a lot of fun.

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          Ted 7 months ago

          Science has proven telepathy is real. Abraham is subject to the errors all humans can make because according to Abraham they are a collection of people that lived before us. True / False? OK... Are all messages from others always accurate? So, be responcible for what you think and believe. If you like it.... Great! If you don't... Stay away. It seems to me life is like a self fulfilling prophecy.... What you believe about yourself becomes your personal truth . Not always.... And not always right away no matter how quickly we want it manifested. However, sometimes things, events, or people come into our lives at the right time. Is Abrahams teachings the right path for you? Only you know the answer to that. I also think certain people have abilities others don't have. So... Be vigilant in who you listen to because it can have good or bad consequences... Just like anybody else you listen too. I happen to like Abraham for the clarity it gives me as I explore how to best manage my life.

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          David Stone 8 months ago from New York City

          Sorry, Lily. I have no control over the ads. That's HubPages doing their thing and is one of the reasons I don't create new content here anymore.

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          David Stone 8 months ago from New York City

          I couldn't agree with you more.

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          Lily 8 months ago

          How about letting me read the article for more than 2 seconds before your extremely ANNOYING "Rate this article" popup covers it and doesn't allow me to see the whole thing!! IDIOTS! I give YOU a rating of -1,000!

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          Gaile Gamble 8 months ago

          Steve Grandinetti hit the nail on the head for me. I have been following Abraham-Hicks regularly for about ten years and attended one workshop a couple of years ago. I had felt that much of it made sense UNTIL the recent UTube presentation where Abraham is asked about the election. Instantly I felt that infinite wisdom would not have responded with the nonsensical answer that it didn't matter either way, that neither candidate would have any effect on our lives, and that it was the "best election ever". I know Esther and Jerry had lived in red states for years and it occurred to me that she might be projecting her philosophy. Whatever the case, I'm finished. I'll go back to my affirmations from The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peale, which I used for years and felt much better: "I know I am always guided, directed and protected by a Divine Power. I know I will always take the right turn in the road. And I know that God will always make a way where there is no way. "

          My life was going very well during that time. And I didn't constantly feel like a failure because I hadn't created the fortune I desired. I got jobs, traveled, "accidentally" found my perfect partner (and I wasn't even looking for anyone at the time). And we are still together 44 yrs. later. And we both agree that this has been the most terrifying election we have ever experienced!!! One could say perhaps Abraham needs more information about politics in the USA, as well as the candidates and their respectivc parties. Or one could just recognize that the repetitious and insulting answers are definitely not coming from "infinite wisdom". That makes more sense to me.

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          David Stone 8 months ago from New York City

          I hope you bounce back quickly.

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          Daniel 8 months ago

          I used to listen to Abraham on youtube everyday, now I wish I had not, it took me several month to undo the damages, this lady is so self obsessed and stupidly insist that you go sit at home and just listen to her Vortex bullshit and miraculously you get what you want... It completely ruined my life, I lost my job, I ran out of cash, could not find a job for almost a year and bank wants to take over my house, every disaster you could imagine came into my life. Abraham Hicks is so full of shit... and her opinions are far from truth in any sense!

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          David Stone 8 months ago from New York City

          I understand.

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          Steve Grandinetti 9 months ago

          So happy to have found this page. I so agree that love, compassion are the highest wisdom. Unfortunately it seems as we try to find alternatives to the ol' time religions we keep getting caught in the same web of manipulative people using previous ideas to make themselves a fortune, while sincere people looking for answers fall for the bs. All I know is that every time I watch Esther Hicks something feels off and my intuition tells me there is something very off. That is how I found this page, because I knew I wasn't the only one who sees through the facade. And while she, ooops "they" are now telling us that this election has no effect on our lives, which fits into this cold uncaring attitude, I cannot watch anymore.

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          David Stone 9 months ago from New York City

          Too deep for me,

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          n/a 9 months ago

          Abraham is amazing?

          your a joke.

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          David Stone 10 months ago from New York City

          That's not accurate. Many people feel regret over leaving loved ones who depended on them behind. It's a mixed blessing. Yes, they usually, although far from always, say that the afterlife is filled with joy. That's different from saying they were delighted to leave children, beloved pets and other loved ones behind. What sort of spirit would be that self-absorbed? Other than Esther, I mean.

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          nik 10 months ago

          Anyone who as claimed to have a near death experience say that all they felt was love, a love so deep that it was hard to put in words. I read up until you wrote that, then I rolled my eyes and thought to myself....negative nancy!

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          daniel 11 months ago

          Abraham hicks, is a thief, a scam! I have used the "law of attraction" for ages. And I can tell that all she says, are copy pastes from great authors such as "William Walker Atkinson", "Maxwell Maltz" and "Neville Goddard" some of these Authors wrote their books a century ago... she claim to have the power of channeling and impersonate herself as infinite intelligence, while most of the time when she is asked questions, her replies are just bullshit!

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          sophia11 11 months ago

          I could be commenting on an old post here - Channeling is tricky business - You must research the information given. Entities that come through channelers could be of lower vibration often give; feel good, vague and repetitive recycled, re-phrased information - they are often funny. They give off the 'fun' vibe - full of humour, loaded with analogies. If you get this from any channeled entity KNOW they are from a lower vibration realm/state. Channelers are often deceived by these entities themselves and may not know it. at some stage things should present themselves weird, strange or just don't add up - some channelers may overlook these events and continue for what ever reason. (they should not, unfortunately some continue). How do you know if the entities coming through is high vibration? The Channeler themselves must be live a life reflective of the teaching. You already know (inner knowing) what love and its qualities look and feel like - your knowing must resonate the information channeled. Information must be clear and concise - in cases where certain information could not be given (usually due to timing) the entities will simply let you know - "that information cannot be given at this time" Lower vibrational entities will answer anything, but will beat around the bush with long explanations and never really answer your question. Why beat around the bush? 1. they're having fun wasting you time and they find the look on your faces irresistible. 2. they don't have authority to give certain information. You should know LOA is not a big deal - all it does it makes you super aware of whatever you're focus on and you will always see it - NEVER own it. I hope this help some of you seeking the truth. If its wealth you're seeking - remember the physical law as well. Just because something is speaking through someone does NOT mean they are of higher anything nor do they have to speak hate to be of lower anything. Deception come in many tones.

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          David Stone 13 months ago from New York City

          Yes, Esther Hicks offering insight into the Biblical history and bending it to fit her pitch is close to hilarious from a distance. Up close, it's depressing. I've seen worse from her, but this is a good example.

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          Terry 13 months ago

          I was getting hooked on these free lessons, until one comment from Abraham brought me back to my senses.

          Someone in the audience had wanted to know about the crucifixion of Jesus. Abraham/Esther's response was that Jesus had many lessons to teach us, but that he "Dropped the Ball" when he got out of the vortex, and this resulted in the crucifixion.

          Comments please.

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          Maureen 14 months ago

          I've been a listener and reader of Abraham Hicks a couple of different times over the years, in addition to many other people and their teachings.

          I also read "The Secret" when it first came out. I was left feeling awful after reading it, as though all that mattered in this world were material items and cash. I also came away with this terrible feeling that this book could do more harm than good with people engaging in a lot of self-loathing over their lives and inability to materialize outrageous wealth. I quickly followed reading "The Secret" with another book called "Beyond The Secret" by Lisa Love, which made me feel better.

          Over the years, I have taken all of that information and processed it, along with other teachings, my own life experiences, and the observations I make of others. And giving something another listen after you've grown and changed can make a difference, too.

          Essentially, what I get now from the teachings of Abraham is, we have to be aligned within ourselves (with the Source, God, or whatever name you like), because in this alignment, we have access to inspiration and guidance for our actions.

          In this alignment, we feel good. In this alignment, we stop looking outside, even to Abraham or any other teachers. We use that internal feeling guidance to assess what is before us and 3what we should do next.

          As for empathy, certain responses Abraham has given seem to lack empathy. But, I get the underlying message. The message is, we cannot align another or manage their alignment for them. If they are suffering, we can encourage them/remind them of their alignment. But really, that is all.

          This is perhaps a different take on not being able to change another person, only yourself.

          I did not see the session about the mother of the child who kicked the cat. I struggle to understand why the mother is even asking the question. Get the animal away from that gawddamn kid. We can preserve our children's connections without letting them run roughshod over other people and animals.

          As for suffering, I think we are coming to a clearer understanding of how we bring it to ourselves. Look at currently accepted wisdom that stress indeed is the precursor to disease. Many people don't want to believe this because they don't want to change their own lives.

          Further, this was not conventional wisdom not all that long ago.

          Talk about being simplistic: It is much easier to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your crummy life, blame other people, and be a victim than it is to take responsibility and get yourself aligned by understanding the power of positive emotion, energy, and your own innate power.

          Abraham Hicks didn't say it was easy. And it's not. Abraham Hicks said you have to get yourself right if you want your world to go right. Essentially, your life is going to go a lot better if you emit loving, happy, positively expectant vibes than unhappy, miserable, and a complete blindness to the ability to change vibes.

          It's really about changing a set point. That's why it's so hard at first. It's changing habits of thought and feeling.

          It is when people start the progress and a mansion fails to fall out of the sky within a week that gets them. That's their own deal. No one said that will happen.

          Abraham Hicks even says, don't expect everything you want instantly. Expect it incrementally. She also says in the beginning, expect only to feel good. And, honestly, in many people's lives, getting there is miraculous, as steeped in blame, victimhood, and negativity as we are.

          Abraham Hicks cannot make anything happen for anyone. It's guidance. That is all. As for contradictions, there are many facets to every issue. In this case this, in that case that. Even aside from Abraham Hicks, the same issue in a different situation may require a different approach, one that seems contradictory to a previous situation.

          Also, I often think it's funny how many people dismiss such messages like Abraham's so utterly, but believe without question, the veracity of modern medicine. For example, there is no test to objectively diagnose depression or bipolar disorder, to name two. But we accept those diagnoses as real, then take medicine that experts currently have no understanding for exactly how it works. But, down the hatch it goes, and to an alarming degree in the U.S.

          Additionally, medical research is rife with financial conflict, if you want to discuss conflict. Funders for many studies are companies/organizations who have interests in those studies producing certain results. Moreover, the FDA has palms that need to be greased to get those approvals through.

          As for people using the teachings of Abraham to commit treachery unto others, like the husband leaving the wife and two small children for someone else because he feels more "aligned". Maybe he does. Maybe it's an excuse for an affair. But either way, he is doing that, not Abraham.

          Finally, we have to arrive at our own answers. As to the goal of happiness, first we have to be willing to give up unhappiness. That may mean giving up whole identities we've built up around being victims of something negative. Look for examples of people who've overcome some horrendous suffering by learning to gain dominion over the negative thoughts and feelings. It's not easy, but if you listen to one of these people speak, you see how they replaced the negativity with positivity. That is, in essence, what Abraham teaches. Esther Hicks makes money from it. So what?

          There is plenty on youtube free of charge for people, so the teachings can be accessed for nothing at all. I bought one of their books for my Kindle for under $8.00.

          All of these high profile people attract people who become mindless cult types. That is them. I see nothing in the many, many videos I've watched to indicate mind control. There are people in this world who will pick up and become devotees to anything. Take the current craze in adult coloring. So many getting on the bandwagon. It just appears stupid to me. But then, I never stopped coloring, so I guess my life simply syncs with the trend. Anyway, people wear this stuff, any stuff, not just spirituality or Abraham, but even loving bacon, like a cloak. See me? I'm joining with what's popular. I;m hip. That's why we, as humans, serve advertisers so well.

          So being who we are, being able to listen and agree or disagree based on what we feel about it inside, is the key. Not what other people have to say or how popular it is, but how it hits us.

          Finally, I love forums like these because they're about ideas, critical thinking, and deciding what's right for your life--what resonates as truth for you. We all know the feeling, that panging intuition that is the best bullshit detector I know. If it's telling you that Abraham is not truth at all for you, then go with that. If it tells me that the teachings of Abraham are truth for you, then go with that. I can leave you to your truth and live my own, respectfully.

          Your forum here allows people to bounce their beliefs off others. No one should ever shut down, listen or read only one person, get defensive, or call someone stupid for believing or not believing their premises. Well, pretty much as Abraham say, it is the contrast that helps us grow.

          In the interest of complete disclosure, I have a personal development website called youincredibleyou.com. It contains blogs about my own experiences, my own truth--the only one I have--techniques I've used to help me feel better, and a daily message I send out to subscribers, free of charge.

          I encourage the exposure to many teaching and especially to those that vehemently disagree with what you hold as truth. You have to sift, sort, and make it your own....or not. But standing in the midst of utter disagreement helps that process along.

          Thank you.

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          Deesdeeds 15 months ago

          I respect your opinion here.

          I must say that I have applied the teachings for Abraham to my life and the results have been amazing.

          In reference to Jerry's cancer treatment, although Esther is the channeller of Abraham it does not mean that she or Jerry would not react to life contrast as any regular human would and select cancer treatment as the option of least resistance.

          I believe they have provided value to many people's lives and that is what truly matters.

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          David Stone 20 months ago from New York City

          An interesting summary of your experience. Thank you, Danielle.

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          Danielle 20 months ago

          I came into listening to "Abraham"/Jerry/Esther Hicks in the past several weeks after it being suggested I give it a listen. I was even forwarned that it would be "a little off-kilter"but the bulkof what they say is good information. I won't lie, many of the talks I listened to on YouTube were funny, but I found it very difficult to keep up with Abraham's rants, intended to "inspire" you, as he/she rambled them off SO quickly.

          After listening to several of these 15min quips, I decided to download the "The Law of Attraction" audiobook. I mean, hell, Oprah did the satellite radio interview for 2 shows....so why not. Today, I turned it on in my headphones, and to my surprise, its from 1989. Ok...well, lets kee going...then I realized, the story is VERBATIM of what she told to Oprah. Like, script exact. Ok, wait. Let's be fair, lot's of celebrities use scripts to answer questions in interviews so as to not be blind-sighted...BUT, here's what got me and INSTANTLY made me skeptical. In all the recent recordings, and in Oprah's interview Esther and Abraham sound one-and-the-same, the only difference being Abraham speaking a little faster and with a little more ego. Now, if you listen to that 1989 recording...Abrahama has a VERY distinctive accent. VERY clear. I thought, meh anomaly. Maybe she hadnt learned to control him so easily an speak in her voice, her accent and not his...nope. I found other recordings, and in several there is an accent, but its inconsistent every time and eventually, there is no accent at all. Now, answer me that one....

          Regardless, she and Jerry dida brilliant job marketing The Law of Attraction and getting that knowledge out to the public. And maybe Esther did have a connection at one point, and lost it. Real psychics will tell you, and mediums as well, that it's not like a machine.They cant just "turn it on". Information comes when it comes. Sometimes when someone is there with them, sometimes not. sometimes they have to reach out and contact them, like an answering machine asking them to get back to them. But, the accent thing really turned me off and made it feel like it was all a performance, a holier-than-thou performance.

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          David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

          Feel free to quote at will. Good luck with your blog.

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          Kate North 2 years ago

          Hello David, is there a way I can get in touch with you? My email is k.north411@gmail.com and my new blog is responsiblespirituality.wordpress.com (feel free to remove that from this comment). I would like to join the bloggers who are looking critically at Abraham-Hicks, and occasionally I might like to quote your words and link to your articles if this would be OK. My perspective may be a bit different from yours, but we both stand for critical thinking.

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          David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

          It puzzles me that she still sells, although much less than before.

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          Awake 2 years ago

          Esther continuously contradicts herself. I suppose that's why she enjoys using that word to favor her agenda.

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          David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

          Doyle, you make the common error of personalizing your criticism. You insight into "which type of person" I am is meaningless when, as is true with virtually every A-H defender who comments here, you cite not one example to back up your claim that I take what Esther Hicks has preached "wildly out of context." You didn't because you can't. I've quoted directly from the list of quotes Abraham Hicks Publications distributes in email blast daily. Are they out of context too.

          Your trouble, I sense, is that posing what Esther pitches against reality makes her look shallow, cold and thuddingly dull. Rather than make your case, you claim "out of context" and condemn the messenger. It's an old story, tried a hundred times in the years I've been writing about this cult.

          Let me give you and example of the duplicity. Jerry Hicks died in November, 2011, after a year long battle with leukemia. His experience puts the lie to a core "teaching" from the alleged spirit guides "Abraham." How does Esther Hicks and her team deal with the contradiction? Just as they did when Jerry's promise to bounce right back to his old self, following Abraham's guidance, failed. They are in denial. If you take the time to check the bios on their website, they claim Jerry is still alive, more than three years after his death, with more bounce in his step than men half his age. Really? The site also claims he and Esther are still free spirits driving around the country in their "monster bus." Time to renew Jerry's driver's license, maybe.

          Finally, you claim that Esther teaches "that all modalities can be useful if they raise our vibration/energy..." First, she says no such thing about energy. You made that up to fit your argument. As far as "our vibration" goes, I'm still waiting for anyone to define what that is. I realize it's meant to imply a connection to quantum physics, but even there, no vibration is personal and is nothing more than potential material. This is an example of the nonsense Esther preaches and followers are expected to swallow. It goes down best without thinking.

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          David Stone 1 2 years ago

          I allow the David Stone copy "David Stone 1" to express David Stone's ideas about Abe and Esther.

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          Doyle Scott 2 years ago

          I just spent several hours reading many of the comments here. I happen to be a big fan of Abe Hicks & credit many of my successes to their teachings. There are so many things that have been taken wildly out of context by David, that it just makes me laugh. Very much like the cafeteria Christians I know who take one or two verses out the Bible and conveniently discard the rest. I don't think I've ever blindly followed any philosophy or spiritual tradition but I have willingly listened to many . All I have done is applied spiritual concepts to my life & looked for evidence of whether they work or not. Some of the results, from applying the Abe stuff, have often left me breathless. I am my own evidence & seldom rely on other people's approval or disapproval of said concepts. I guess there will always be two sides to every coin...David sees a lack of compassion yet I see an incredible amount of compassion in what Abe teaches. Some say that Abe suggests there is no need for modern medicine but the consistent message from Abe is that all modalities can be useful if they raise our vibration/energy from where it was. I long ago discovered that there are 2 types of people in the world, those that like to build people up & those that like to tear people down. I didn't have to read many of David's comments to determine which type of person he is.

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          David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

          Right on, Francie. I agree with you completely. Thanks for commenting.

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          Francie S 2 years ago

          I read/listened to some of Hicks stuff. Which is fine if you listen in moderation like anything else. I would listen at the gym do the whole feel good vortex thing. Come out and then later in the day, I'd find myself to be a bit agitated. My issue with her teaching is that I live here on earth with humans. Every human is different and if I followed what she taught, I'd have to live in some alter world. I'm trying to live here on earth. This is the life and form that God gave me. What I needed to do to get the answers that I needed was turn to God. I don't care what God you believe in, God will answer you when you need help. Do good, be good. If Esther was able to give me the answers that I needed then why would I have to turn to God. One day I laid it all out to God and I said you gave me this life and it's important that I do good and be good, but this what I want in life. You have to help me with the truth for this particular situation. Now, God knows my intent/goals and I follow the guidance accordingly.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @lynnasafriend: If Jesus is coming, it will be surprise to most of the planet.

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          lynnasafriend 3 years ago

          Look in the Holy Bible (King James Bible) Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.I see the word sorcerers, and I think people like this also look to familiar spirits, (those are ghosts or what they think are ghosts) familiar spirits are demons who are not the person they come as, they come as something a person is familiar with so they don't show their true self or they would have a heart attack seeing the demon that is actually being channeled. 2 Chronicles 33:6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.Jesus is coming quickly, we should be ready.

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          hamguin 3 years ago

          @David Stone1: Dave, you win.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @hamguin: So, you don't mind being conned. You're obviously very enlightened, and it's easy to understand why facts would not be helpful to you. You live in a reality that doesn't need them.

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          hamguin 3 years ago

          I have no idea if the process she describes is what she actually experiences. In fact, I don't care. I have not given the Abraham-Hicks business a dime, while I have enjoyed watching YouTube videos of their sessions. In other words, I find it both entertaining and, in some small ways, enlightening. I don't hear what she says as some absolute truth (not sure there is such a thing) and simply take what resonates with me and leave the rest.As far as all of the energy you have put into this lens, I hope you have enjoyed creating it. It didn't prove helpful to me, but that's just me.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @pigal: Thanks, pigal, for your entertaining, insightful comment.

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          pigal 3 years ago

          I came across this woman two years ago. I found some of what she said inspiring..then came the realization that this 'Abraham' was a collection of someone she was channeling through. Ok. Game over. I listened far more closely. This is what they do when it does not work. Blame it on the wannabeliever. If something is a law of the universe, then it does not work or work based on whether I believe it or not.There is the Law of Gestation, the Law of Transmutation (which are the Law of Attraction) The Law of Polarity, the Law of Rythym, The Law of Cause and Effect, the Law of Polarity, in all 7 natural laws of the Universe. I do not have to vibrate or nose dive into some swirling vortex. These laws work, whether I believe in them or not. So, do not insult my intelligence by telling me I am not manifesting because I am not vibrating, or I am not in the vortex. These fast talkers always have a justification why their road to self-improvement does not work and to me, that says 'fraud'. Who needs Abraham and Esther posing as Jesus, God et al. Whether or not one is religious or believes in Jesus, read his teachings in the Bible. This is a 2000 year-old-messaged glossed up for MONEY! It's all about BELIEF. Successful people never doubt themselves, ever. They believe in themselves, all the time. They fail and keep on going. Richard Branson of Virgin failed at many businesses, but he never gave up, so did Abraham Lincoln who filed for bankruptcy 6 times and lost every political office initially, but he never gave up. Heinz of Heinz ketchup failed, Ford of Ford motor car failed, Walt Disney failed, he too filed for bankruptcy. They believed and never gave up. The message is so simple, really. Jesus said that as a man believes so will he be. If he has faith enough, he can move the mountain. We lack faith in ourselves and we search for it in these quacks. Many of these 'followers' would not think of reading the teachings of Jesus, rather just drop money in this sock puppet's lap and believe her 'Abraham'. The woman is a fraud and so is Abraham. There is no vortex - but wait, that is a great hook, is it not?You want to be rich? Write some nonsense about talking to God or some law. As long as people believe in alien abduction, Big Foot and the Lochness Monster, these frauds will become richer.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @opheliadelafuente: If you never receive solicitations, what do you call those workshop announcements that accompany every daily quote? If you weren't a plant, you'd know that. This comment echoes numerous others people have been asked to write.Have you ever noticed that you are not charged for watching television commercials? A-H YouTube channel is the same thing, carefully edited to pitch Esther in her best light and live out the "problems." That's why they're so aggressive about not letting anyone post videos not authorized by A-H. If it's all freely given, what's the diff? It's about controlling the image and the message, Marketing 101.Nice try, and by the way, my beeswax is what I decide it is, not you.

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          opheliadelafuente 3 years ago

          A lot of people seem to be caught up in the money-making aspect of this, implying that Esther Hicks is some kind of selfish, money-grubbing charlatan. However you are all missing one very important fact. Of course she does make money off of the whole Abraham thing. However, ALL of the information you need to follow this path is absolutely FREE. You Tube videos abound. There are countless excerpts on the website. I signed up to get a quote from them in my email every day. And I NEVER receive solicitations. A few times a year I get an email announcing when they do the cruise or go on tour. That's it. You can buy books if you want to. You can pay to see her live if you want to. But unlike many, many other self-described "spiritual gurus", NONE of that is necessary in order to access this information. To me, that really says something. Also, for the record, if you don't believe her - the don't listen. Don't watch her videos, don't read about her, and respect the right of other people to believe something different from you. It's no skin off your nose. So mind your own beeswax :)

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @tamara-llenadefe: Hay House has been very successful with their books. Some are good, and some are dreadful. The problem is, if what they were selling five years ago was so good, why do they need to sell some new guru this year? They don't seem to exercise enough discernment in whose claims they publish. And, by the way, I bought into an offer from them about six years ago and ended up with one of the stupidest books I ever got stuck with. Once burned, I didn't go on to get scarred.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @tamara-llenadefe: A lot of people have stories like yours. When people get hooked on magical beliefs, they would sometimes rather point fingers at others than learn and grow. It's not that there isn't something about what Esther Hicks calls the "law of attraction," it's that she sells it like soda pop, too easy and too good to be true. Nothing in the universe goes on in isolation.

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          tamara-llenadefe 3 years ago

          @grannysage: I agree with you, I always receive promotional a emails to sell me videos of chopra and dyer, the last from dyer I felt like it was a shopping channel trying to sell me a material item, it is so sad

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          tamara-llenadefe 3 years ago

          I agree with you Dave there are better authors for spiritual grow, I knew a woman who had an obsession with Abraham and law of attraction, I always told her to be more critical and rational, she even went into living in a flat that she couldn't even afford and booked flights to go to her home land even though she had problem with an application to become a national of the country she is living in, I told her that was risky to buy the tickets but she was so involved in the law of attraction that she thought by concentrating she was going to be able to go and visit her family, I didn't say more, one day I called her and her husband told me the docs arrived but she had not been given the nationality and I didn't ask more, her husband said she was still going and I thought that is a bit risky, few days before the date she had told me she was going, I called her to wish a good trip, she said she wasn't going and I said I was sorry, few days later I received a text from her saying that how it was possible that she had opened her heart about her feelings and that I was laughing at her because she couldn't go to visit her family, I was very upset because that was stupid to say that childish thing, but then I understood why she was able to follow Esther hicks, I think you have to be very childish to follow that.PS my friendship with this woman ended .

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @sandyblue5: sandyblue5, your rationalizations are the most perfect example magical, cult thinking I have ever seen. Nature has given us the gift of critical thought, discernment and decisions about values. The best thing we can do is use that gift, not squander it on empty fantasies.

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          sandyblue5 3 years ago

          I think every human being has a choice about what he thinks or chooses to think,that is a God-given gift. In the same way whatever you choose to believe is true according to your personal perception and therefore your reality. Esther thinks Abraham is real,so be it. You think it's all fake so let it be. I believe life is better when you choose to think happy thoughts, Abraham's teachings or not, and that is good enough for me and I believe for all human kind. After all we all just want the feelings brought about by the fulfillment of our desires or the final emotional satisfaction of it, so why not just skip to the end if you can?

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          grannysage 3 years ago

          I must say that I am troubled by people who make money by selling spiritual truths. That includes Dyer and Chopra, although I use their quotes a lot. Peace Pilgrim said that spiritual truth should never be sold and refused to take any money for it. And her teachings are every bit as valid as other spiritual gurus of the age. I have a dear friend who had an NDE and now is channeling. She wrote a book about it and charges more than I could afford, although I bought it because she was a friend. She also charges a lot for channeling sessions because her spirit guides told her to. My guess is that people feel they haven't received something of value unless they pay for it. I am becoming more attracted to ancient teachings such as Lao Tzu which can be found for free. But even Dyer is taking those teachings and rehashing them into his own products. At least he presents his materials on PBS. My own belief is that everything is perfect, even though on the surface it seems insane. I do believe that souls decide to be born with challenges to face because it is all about experiencing life in its many variations. Instead of worrying about whether other teachers are real or not, I find more peace from working on my own level of awareness.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @rayray01: Thanks, rayray01, I couldn't agree with you more.

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          rayray01 3 years ago

          I really appreciate your clear commitment to this. I like that you seem to have tried to stay as factual and as least-political as possible. I definitely think it is important to discuss these ideas - particularly for those people who are or have been swept up and dropped dry. I think there are hard working, intelligent people, who have found that this isn't working for them, and that's an important realisation to get to. I think your article offers some acknowledgement to the intense frustration (and pain?) of disillusionment. On the other hand, I also think that A-H have offered a lot of hope into a lot of people's lives. Swapping to the other hand again tho - I also think that their message has been misinterpreted to create an environment of "blame the victim" which is a very dangerous state to be in... and no help to humanity either. "oh you're starving? it's your fault - you attracted it" -- I'm not saying that A-H said or implied this, I'm saying that this is how it is interpreted. Which is a shame. On the other hand - I also like the merging of religious figureheads to demystify their "exclusivity" to one religion... Anyway. Thank you for your time and effort. I also really valued your offering of possible alternatives. Very valuable. Kind regards, and with love

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @rubenharo2014: I couldnt understand your question. Read more like a speech to me.

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          rubenharo2014 3 years ago

          @David Stone1: YOU HAVE NO ANSWER THEN? I thought so.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @rubenharo2014: Good luck to you in dealing with all that.

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          rubenharo2014 3 years ago

          I am so glad I can insert my opinion, and I congratulate you on exposing your thoughts. It is coincidental that at this point in my distress and anguish I should find your insight, which nonetheless, brings down all my hopes and dreams about finding a new and satisfying way to live and achieve everything my heart ever desired since I am in this present moment, in an economic, emotional and spiritual demise. That is how the Universe works , I guess?. I am not resentful. I just grief.One other thing I add to my own list of A-H. rebukes, is my most serious doubt about a so called Infinite Intelligence, compassionate and most auspicious to the myriad of its extensions. IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR PAIN AND GRIEVING. It seems to me the Universe should work on an amendment to its Laws. I remember a verse in the Old Testament "...In my distress I cried to the Lord, and He heard me, and He released me from all bondage." A.-Hicks seems to interpret God as saying "I do not need your pain, butt off!". Everything you say makes sense. And at one point or another I was prey to some of those thoughts. However, I figure it was my own materialistic outlook that promoted my vision of a new and brightly lit path into an enlightning new life and threreafter. Here is my plea to you: I am interested in finding out what in all the conglamorate of your consciousnes you do find resonance with in all the Hicks stuff (not meaning offense at all), so a can find relief and belief.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @ronalds4percent: More interesting speculation than I usually see here. Enthusiasm is always a good thing. But there are a couple of points you make that are not quite accurate.First, there is no "overall decline in well-being." That's a fantasy promoted to advance a cause. People's health is better than any time in history. There's less crime, fewer wars and life expectancy is increasing everywhere. There is no evidence anywhere for such a decline. It's cliché nonsense, convincing only to generations who've been hook on television and movies.The premise that "you gotta make a choice: either you're a believer or a 'knower'" is an empty slogan. With our explorers in every field of science and discovery only beginning to penetrate what there is ultimately to learn and skeptical about whether we will ever really have the tools to see it all, no one has such a choice. We're far from any such black and white decisions. We're still muddling along on the borders of discovery with much more to come.

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          ronalds4percent 3 years ago

          Perhaps a few things to consider. For most people, an objective fact means something 'scientifically proven'. However, how would you feel if somebody claimed to have any authority regarding a subject they admittedly can only investigate, test, experiment, etc. 4 percent of? This is exactly what science is doing: studying 4% of 'reality, while ignoring the remaining 96%, which they know has to be 'out there'. Until further notice, they'll give it some meaningless names ('dark energy' and 'dark matter') and get on with their agendas. Furthermore, a great deal of the measly stuff they can test and experiment with, shows such irrational behavior, it forces them to make up the most fantastic theories about it (string theory, parallel worlds theory, etc.) - if it wasn't for science' stamp on them, these theories would be regarded as 'science fiction' :-)This would be a comical situation, were it not that, for instance, the medical world rests on the findings of this same science, although it means that the mechanistic way they're regarding and treating the human body is actually based on very limited knowledge. The argument that science is so successful in the realm of technological development is a valid one, but only regarding the visible/measurable part of reality. Treating humans (and other animals) like machines would be fine, IF that's what they really are. The existence of phenomena like the 'placebo' and 'nocebo' effect, spontaneous remission, etc. should, instead of making scientists shake their heads (and pharmaceutical giants grind their teeth), open the way to completely new views on the origin of 'dis-ease', but it doesn't. Treating symptoms is a very lucrative business... Neither the mind boggling findings of quantum physics, the absence of any knowledge regarding 96% of 'reality' and these strange 'medical' phenomena don't seem to shake people's believe in science and their adherents, mostly because almost nobody takes the trouble (nor has the time) to look into this matter (no pun intended) by themselves - and so the consequences of a world ruled by ignorance and greed (increasing decline of health, wealth, let's call it the decline of 'overall well being') remain intact.Regarding Esther Hicks, I do enjoy her work and find it at least a bit strange that, for the reasons stated above, anyone who's taken the time and effort to 'study life' would find the essence of what she has to say cumbersome. This world might very well be govern by 'believes', and me, for one, would rather overestimate the importance of 'matters of the heart', than of the 'mind' (for as far as it's limited to my brain, anyway). After looking at the 'evidence', which shows how little we (can) know, I can only assume that maybe it's all about deciding which pill you wanna take: the red one or the blue one (I hope you all watched 'The Matrix' :-) Simply put, you gotta make a choice: either you're a believer or a 'knower' - you take full responsibility for your own life (for starters) or not.

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          anonymous 3 years ago

          Hi there,Thank you for your thoughts. Here are some of mine, I hope they are slightly interesting or at least helpful to somebody. I am quite young, and on a spiritual journey, and I stumbled across the Hick's teachings a few years back. I began this last year to have a warning in my heart and in my head that they were "culty", and being so young, and without much experience to base my new experiences off of, I sometimes get sucked into charismatic speakers. Thank you for your voice of doubt: it has confirmed my own interpretations. Although some of her ideas (if they were hers at all) have been helpful in my life in real ways, I will say that you make an excellent point at considering where her agenda lies and how creepy some of her assertions truly are.It is, in my opinion (and after reading your post), silly to assume that someone is "all-knowing" or unbiased. Every human being has some kind of motivation for their behavior, and Esther is a human. Although I would like to think that Esther's motivations are pure, and that she is truly trying to help people, I now doubt this. It is just too convenient for her to say she is communicating with other worlds instead of speaking from her own human perspective. This disassociates her from her own humanity and responsibility, which is quite strange to me: why would anyone want to do that if not for some abdication of responsibility for their actions or for the implications of what it is they teach? If people are actually denying medical treatment because of her wacked out opinions, that's not good. They should be denying medical treatment based on their own allergies to the treatment, scientific research... But I digress. Back on point... Some of the most powerful spiritual teachers that I have read, including don Miguel Ruiz, have actually asserted their own humanity in the process, not tried to speak through some other worldly spirit. It is, in my opinion, necessary for spiritual teachings to in some way or another assert their own humanity instead of denying it for the teaching to be relevant at all: we are human beings folks. It is so funny to me that she talks about "resisting what is" when she is actually denying her own humanity and pretending she is from another spiritual world! I'm not out to attack her, but it does make her teachings incredibly inconsistent and therefore unhelpful, which is really all I care about.As a result of my new opinions, I do not doubt spiritual teachings altogether, so thank you for listing some other resources that are of greater depth and are probably more useful. I've enjoyed Tolle and Ruiz, and am excited to read the Dalai Lama, and I will be giving away my one Hick's book I own.Thanks for helping my journey!Sincerely,Lynne

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @David Stone1: I thought I should add that an important takeaway is that, for the reasons stated above and regardless of the presentation, there are important lessons to be learned in what Esther and Jerry borrowed. The burden, though, is in having enough insight to separate the wise from the woefully misleading.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @CCatherineC: CatherineC, I can agree with much of what you've said here. But plagiarism is a trickier deal, requiring a direct repeat, not a simple reordering or reuse of the material in a new or changed context. But there is no question that the basic all came from prior sources. Esther and Jerry's success, I think, came from making it into more of a performance, a staged event that captivated viewers, much as the old traveling preachers in tent shows did. Esther simply does it at Holiday Inns, instead.

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          CCatherineC 3 years ago

          My boyfriend played a video and asked my honest opinion. I watched the Esther to Abraham transition happen in about 15 seconds. I wanted to see the buzzing teeth and all the stuff Jerry saw. What I saw was Esther remained the same. No personality shift, speech pattern changes, or change in mannerisms. I watched this with an open mind. Prior to Abraham making the grand entrance, Jerry stated that they "started making even MORE money." I knew then. Esther was raised as a Bible thumper, hence the name Abraham, directly from the Bible. All of the stuff that spews from Esther's mouth can be found in all of the books written by other people that Jerry was familiar with. She should be sued for plagiarism.

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          David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Thanks, Dan. You've pointed out something that has been a problem for others.

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          anonymous 3 years ago

          @David Stone1: I just came across this site. Been studying the Abraham material. Good point about the medication. Abraham material really gives a negative view on meds. People may think to not take medications. Then think different thoughts. That's really bad advice, especially for people that need to be on medication. If you don't take the med route, you're a bad Aber and that's not a good stance. I agree with some points of the Abraham material. But like you write, there are some flaws. Esther really shouldn't be giving medical advice, especially when Jerry couldn't think his way out of chemo.Dan

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          anonymous 3 years ago

          I love Esther Hicks and everything she has to say about how the universe works. Unimaginative is not a word that describes this deep well-rooted woman. She knows a lot, and I'm prepared to listen to her, even if she likes to pretend; this is a fun trait she possesses. ;-)

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          use what resonates and toss the rest, to each his own...

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Give yourself a calm place, Virginia, where you can quietly contemplate the question, What do writers do?Guess what? They write! And they write what they know about in detail to inform others. This is not "hatin'," Virginia, it's doing the research and reporting the conclusions it points to.I hope you understand this challenging point now. Thanks for asking.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          Dave, you really find the time to write this? Come on, man, get a life and stop hatin' ...

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Thanks, Doc. I do wish people would throw the Abraham Hicks baby out with the bathwater. Esther Hicks never offered anything original in content or even in style. There are much better, original resources that will not be discovered because Esther tosses out the "easy" hook. No effort needed. Just change your vibration. Man, I'd love to have her give an explanation of what that is. Spiritual candy, I think. Food for the spiritually lazy.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          Dave, like your blog a lot and glad that when I type "esther hicks" into my search engine, your blog comes up fairly close to the top. I was intro'd to A-H philosophy in 2006 via some CD audio recordings that were lent to my then-wife by her air-headed bff. Although I find A-H philosophy to be at least as entertaining as watching a sitcom and have found their theories on death to be thought-provoking, I have often wished that someone would require a warning label be placed on some of (if not all) Mrs. Hicks' content. You, sir, are the closest thing there can be to that wish - so, um Thanks. Regarding mental power to heal, I have some advice: It has a long way to go. Potential is there, but for now, I really think that most of us are better off just admitting that when you get a diagnosis of leukemia at age 84 then the universe might be giving you a heads up that your odds of making it to 85 just went down quite a bit! I hope that most people will keep the baby and just throw out the dirty bathwater...meditation, positive thought, hope, and inspiration should garner much more focus in our world. Discovery, scientific method, rationality and skepticism are delicious and fun also! Keep up the good flow everyone. Wishing all readers a long and happy life.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @len-mckee-5: Thanks for the note, len-mckee-5. I took a quick look, but it's all new to me.

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          len-mckee-5 4 years ago

          Abraham's 20 years of lessons on mansionworldteachings.org are not in any way related to Ester Hicks material. His lessons on MansionWorldTeachings are NOT for sale or to be marketed, but free to any person will to make personal correction. The site is still in process of doing the edits.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Brandon, why did you use a different name? The one you used before was much cooler.Anyway, if you can navigate over to my bio page and scroll down to "Scientific Proof, Life After Death," you'll see - probably to your dismay - that I am very well versed in rich spiritual domain to which we all belong. Of course, followers of Esther Hicks have trouble dealing with people who actually do the work and the research to find truths. Swallowing the Abraham Hicks teachings whole is so much easier. You can quit on life and just work on your vibrations. How nice! Sadly, the rest of us have to carry to load you and others like you who are too spiritually lazy and confused to to contribute with. We are adults and proud to be responsible grownups. We do hope you will join us some day. You and we would really be rewarded to see you make the effort to be part of the adult community. Come on, you can grow up, can't you? Give it a try. I promise you won't regret leaving juvenile addictions to magic behind. You've got one life, buddy. Do something great with it.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          People living in boxes will never believe those who are free. It is two polarities, one very fear based and the other very optimistic. These are the same people who deny the existence of spirits or anything non-physical which many believers have experienced, they are not ready to evolve so let them live in their tiny box.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Scylia, this is your last post because it's all just more of the same. If you don't like how an argument is made, that's not my problem. Deal with the issue. Other readers will decide what's true and what's not. (Your defensiveness doesn't help your case, by the way, and neither does your enthusiasm for talking about yourself and your worldview.) You may have noticed that this lens is not about me or you, although you seem to think it is.If you have something new to comment about Esther, etc., you are free to do so to your hearts content, but this is the last volley of the ping pong match over style, not substance. You don't like the world. You've made that clear. So, go spew your venom elsewhere.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @David Stone1: Dave, the belitteling is not in the disagreement or presenting a different point of view - which I don't mind, read previous post - it is in the way how the counter arguments are made, i.e. asking me what planet I live on, 'superior to demonize some easy targets for a crowd that doesn't let thinking interfere with their daily cynicism', 'sour grapes and the same old hatred ' et al. That is what I am referring to. It doesn't sting or rattle me at all, I don't know you from Bob so who cares. But, and I put that in question in another post you won't publish, why the belitteling comments about a person and not just sound argumentation about the subject at hand. I believe that our society is not based on truth, and see much more evidence of it than not. You believe otherwise, seeing lots of good people doing good, I am not asking you on what planet you live, am I? No, I am covering the discussion and I do not assume anything about you that I don't know. FYI, there is no hatred for people here, just bewilderment, and I am certainly not shallow, a fact you'd know if you'd care to investigate (or knew me). I wish I were more shallow, perhaps life would be a heck lot more enjoyable and I could ask somebody how they were and not care about the answer. Shallow, you called my beliefs shallow just because I am of a different opinion! Amazing! Furthermore, your contentment about condemning people with different opinions explains why you don't fall for Esther Hicks. You must condemn her, as you seem to condemn most others who don't agree with your position. And last, I never said I followed Esther Hicks, that you just assumed because I am reading your blog and have an opposing view. But do remember, I commented on the society based on truth bit. Nothing more.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Scylia, you need to expect others to respond as fervently as you do. When someone disagrees with you, that's not belittling you. It's presenting a different point of view. If it stings, you might ask yourself why your beliefs are so easily rattled and not get excited about the fact that they are so shallow anyone can punch holes in them.Your contentment in condemning a world in which you aren't happy and see mostly "rotten apples" explains your falling for Esther Hicks. It would be her or some other life-denying religion. At least Esther makes it easy. All you have to do is vibrate. Nothing to it.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @David Stone1: Thank you for confirming my thoughts about the manner you enter a discussion that I posted in another comment, that you obligingly did not approve for publication. A lot of assumptions about me above: that I fail to recognize the media's stories as rare, that I may feel chipper and superior, sour grapes and I must hate the world et al. Instead of a graceful reply to my statement, I must be made look to be a silly person with a chip on my shoulder? In answer to what planet I live on, it would be earth, last time I checked. As you know full well, and I know full well it's just a figure of speech. I am constantly 'accused' of being naïve when I persist in believing that people are good and will do good. But, contrary to what you say, a lot of them show traits that don't necessarily earn the word truthful. Yes, my family and friends are great, but co-workers come to mind that pick fights for no other reason than jealousy, bosses undermine their co-workers when it suits their own purposes, and then we have the big stories which are not just a few rotten apples, It would be difficult to find a few good apples among them. And it's those people we are asked to trust. No, I don't agree that we live in a society built on trust, never have and maybe never will. Knowing that and still be able to do your thing despite of it (and not get depressed) that means having grown up. To me. B.t.w., I do not watch tv, read newspapers, go to church or any on that. I belong to the cult that is called life, a life in which people can come to their own conclusions, may discuss them but not be belittled for them.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Ally, thanks for including today's freely distribute quote from the Abraham-Hicks operation. Esther's is a robust blame the victim theology. It extends through other implications like victims of crime, war and accidents. Of course, even Esther and Jerry didn't believe this. They just sell it.What makes it extreme is that followers have taken this as medical advice and gotten into serious trouble. No accounting for bacteria, germs or cellular malfunctions - you just aren't thinking and (Ugh!) vibrating correctly. It's your fault. Esther has said this is true even for infants born with disease (AIDS transmitted from the mother's blood, for instance) and children too young to speak. They got the negative thoughts from their parents, she claims.While these beliefs may be just stupid to thinking people, they care also cruel and void of caring for others. What sort of person endorses these things?

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @David Stone1: If there is no source of illness, why are there so many sick people? It is because they have found lots of excuses to hold themselves in vibrational discord with wellness. They are not letting it in. And when they don't let it in, the absence of it looks like sickness. And when enough of them do it you say, "Oh, there must be a source of sickness. In fact, let's give it a label. Let's call it cancer. Let's call it AIDS. Let's call it all kinds of terrible things, and let's imply that it jumps into people's experience." And we say it never jumps into anybody's experience. It's just that people learn through trial and error, and through banging around with each other patterns of thought that don't let it in. ---Abraham Excerpted from the workshop in Buffalo, NY on September 27, 2000 Our Love, Esther (and Abraham and Jerry)Didn't jerry die of cancer? I cannot stand these people/made up people/ whatever

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Thanks, Debra. The negative comments from Abers show how little they know or follow what their guru teaches. It's been an interesting debate, but I do wish that Esther's defenders would come up with better arguments. More often, it's defensiveness and disordered thinking, as if scrambling to put something cohesive together that just isn't.As you suggest, I think we are only beginning to understand what the whole of life, physical and nonphysical, is all about. It's an exciting time where veils are being lifted and chances, like yours, come along to see through a little more. Chasing down that trail to wisdom is as exciting as things can get. And your instincts are right - the answers are not there yet, just tantalizing clues.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @anonymous: Well put! Nice to hear some balance. I love the way you think. We are limited in our knowing and an alarm bell always goes off for me when I hear people say that they know the TRUTH. I have had amazing exchanges with spirit - both spirits close to me and those close to people that are strangers to me yet I would never for a day pretend to "know" what was right for someone else. I see Dave receives so much in the way of negative comments but the positive ones, like yours, are the only ones that provide explanation and common sense. Thanks for the read

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Scylia, I'm not sure what planet you live on, but mine is filled with people who are honest and fair. Just because the news media makes and example of the few bad apples doesn't mean the whole basket is rotten. What the media makes a stink about (and you apparently fall for the worst of it) is news because it's rare. If it were otherwise, just the same old same old, nobody would buy newspapers or sit through monotonous commercials to watch it.It may make you feel chipper and superior to demonize some easy targets for a crowd that doesn't let thinking interfere with their daily cynicism, but you've got it wrong. The vast majority of people, in whatever profession, are just not like that. What you call "a lot of growing up" is no more than sour grapes and the same old hatred toward life that powers cults and religions everywhere. They're all bad, except you - of course.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @David Stone1: You say "It wouldn't matter if she was faking." I say it does. Society is based on people being honest in their dealings and trustworthy in what they deliver.Society is based on... I almost choked when I read this. This is truly what you believe: society is based on people being honest in their dealings and trustworthy in what they deliver? So you've not heard about lying politicians, doctors, pharma, banks, Monsanto, companies that sell goods that are faulty/dangerous etc etc etc etc.......... 'A society based on honesty' what a far cry from the truth and this from a 'truth seeker' such as yourself. And before you say, don't attack the messenger, I am not. I am just pointing out something that you present as truth which it isn't. I had to do a lot of growing up before I realized this. Maybe you should too.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: I think, JaqStone, that you have it pretty much right on the mark.Thanks.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          Dave, you clearly put a lot into this page and it seems you've taken a lot of verbal abuse for it. The issue with the whole "self-help" movement is that it is full of promises of an easy way to fix us and our life. The truth is, it's a money machine. Here's a news flash that won't be popular .... the so-called law of attraction does not exist. Life does not flow TO us. It flows THROUGH us. Esther and Jerry heard some nice teachings that sounded good, repackaged them, and passed them on as ultimate truth without ever digging deeper. Yes, thought affects perspective and experience, but what determines the nature of thought? Belief? Yes, but what spawned the belief? Choice. But why did we make the choice to believe something? Perception of experience, but unless you are Jesus or Buddha all human perception is mis-perception because it is incomplete. We simply do not have awareness of everything happening in a given moment and why it is happening. By focusing only on the level of thought and telling people that is where you change your life Esther and Jerry keep people trying to change the effect, not the cause. Some may experience temporary relief but the surface level focus keeps the hamster wheel turning ... and assures future sales.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: Hector, you seem to have missed the point, and no, I have never heard that phrase. It sounds like ridiculous New Agey silliness, though, and I promise I'll forget it right away, now that I have.The point you miss is that the question is not why Jerry didn't follow his teachings to cure himself. First of all, I'm not aware that Jerry has any teachings (although I suspect Abraham was actually Jerry in disguise.) The question is, why, after preaching how easy it is to be cured by changing your "vibration," etc., why didn't Jerry simply avail himself of what his wife has been preaching forever? According to him, he never even tried. You and I both know why. He knew it was baloney and used his head to go to a regular old doctor instead."History is full of teachers that could not benefit from the very things they taught..." Examples? This is hot air."Finally, modern medicine is turning toward the power of the mind on curing the body... again, tons of examples out there, isn't that directly in line with Abrahamsteachings?" Modern medicine is doing no such thing. Biofeedback has been tried for decades with mixed results. Modern medicine is turning, more recently, to increased drug therapies and a better understanding of the microbiome. Modern medicine, like Abraham-Hicks, is overly influenced by greed, just using different instruments to extract cash from the gullible.If there are "tons of examples out there," why not give us a half-dozen or so?There is nothing consistent with the direction of modern medicine and what Esther Hicks preachers. The next time you find a doctor who agrees that, as Esther claims, you can cure any disease almost immediately simply by changing your "vibration," send him or her over. While your at it, how about explaining what your "vibration" is so the rest of us rubes can be clued in to this infinite wisdom.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @David Stone1: Dave... have you ever heard the phrase "We teach best what we most need to learn"... The fact that Jerry could not "cure" himself does not (should not) render his teachings useless. History is full of teachers that could not benefit from the very things they taught (and thought) their entire life and however, that does mean their teachings were useless. Finally, modern medicine is turning toward the power of the mind on curing the body... again, tons of examples out there, isn't that directly in line with Abrahamsteachings?

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: How, exactly, if true, does that relate to the facts shown here?

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: It isn't easy, Anonymous (?), to respond to half-cooked thoughts, but I'll try."This really is an incredibly negative, opinionated and unnecessary article..." Beauty isn't the only thing that's in the eye of the beholder, pal. "...most of which is the writer's personal interpretation of the teachings." No, that's not true. They are quotes. Take what you like from them."Money earning or not these teachings saved my marriage and pulled me out of depression and anxiety. " Really? How? Abers often make extravagant claims but never seem to have any evidence."Even IF abraham hicks isn't real, it's fun and different, the teachings are no different to those of other great teachers like Ekhart Tolle, it just has a different and easy to relate to spin." Pretty low standard, isn't it? And Eckhart Tolle is vastly more advanced than Esther and markedly different in philosophy. Tolle, for instance, favors awareness while Esther Hicks supports ignorance. Easy, yes, but that's the problem. Sugar's easy too, but it wrecks your health. Spiritual candy wrecks your soul.Thanks for your heartfelt device. If I figure a way to dumb myself down to that level, I'll let you know.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @David Stone1: You are so incredibly rude, how sad

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          This really is an incredibly negative, opinionated and unnecessary article most of which is the writer's personal interpretation of the teachings. Money earning or not these teachings saved my marriage and pulled me out of depression and anxiety. Even IF abraham hicks isn't real, it's fun and different, the teachings are no different to those of other great teachers like Ekhart Tolle, it just has a different and easy to relate to spin. Give up the resistance dear writer, happy, whether childish or not in your view is lovely.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: One of the endless fascinations here is the determination of Abraham-Hicks apologists to persistently try to change the subject and challenge claims never made. It really is getting old though.For the record, Alex, on the off chance that you really are interested in facts, the question is not why Jerry was stricken with leukemia, but why he didn't try any of the easy cures he and Esther have been selling to gullible followers for years. Instead, they ran straight to conventional medicine. A wise choice, in my opinion, but complete contrary to the silly "teachings of Abraham."My conclusion is that Jerry and Esther know it's all bunk created to take money from the spiritually lazy.You're all over the place with incomplete thoughts and ideas that appear geared to fog the simple issues. You may get away with it for people already in the cult, since they are generally willing to swallow whatever gobbledygook Esther tosses them. But I don't think newbies or anyone with a mature critical thinking ability is like to buy your baloney.It isn't even an impressive effort. Tell your handlers to try a better developed argument, if they have one.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          Whether Abraham Hicks is genuine or not, branches of biology such as psychoneuroimmunology are showing that health is not out of our control. Theories on cellular memory have been around for many years but you find the information when you look for it. It's not made obvious in conventional medicine.Also, using Jerry's death as an argument is unreliable. You can't claim that one person's illness defies everything that's been said, no matter how involved in it they were. What about all the other mind-body phenomena such as placebo, and other healing that people have experienced? One person is not a sample therefore we draw conclusions from that. And who knows what had been going on with Jerry's emotional life?

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: No, it isn't, and of course, that is not what Esther Hicks does.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          I find it fascinating how people can find the negative in anything. Even if she is a fake....isn't it wonderful that she can help people feel so good and is leading them in a positive direction of self love and understanding?

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: You may be right on the money there.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          When one is lost, any perception of a leader will suffice.

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          David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

          @anonymous: SoulKeeper, this is an argument against objective thinking, which is one of the highest skills humans have evolved. I know that "pushing against" is a way Esther Hicks has pulled up a vacuous argument to inoculate herself from skeptics.Criticism is what we do every day of our lives as we decide what to and what not to do. You can't function without it, and part of growing up means honing your ability to understand by analyzing, appreciating and criticizing at turns. You seem to know this, except when it comes to Esther Hicks, and then, silly objections about such nonsense ideas as "clouds your own vibration" kicks in to excuse questionable behavior.

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          anonymous 4 years ago

          @David Stone1: What everybody seems to forget is that, as with all "cults" or "ideas", it is just somebody's opinion, just a man's (or woman's) thoughts, or belief, and you can take from it what you want and leave the rest. We all know everybody holds different beliefs and the thing is to let them have theirs while you have yours. How else do we all get our beliefs if not through indoctrination by other people's beliefs (like religion). But once your common sense kicks in, you decide for yourself what to keep and what to let go of. Criticism is "pushing against", which just clouds your own vibration.