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15 Reasons You Can't Trust Esther Hicks or Abraham

Updated on August 23, 2017

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Esther Hicks On Stage

Learning Not to Trust Abraham-Hicks

Did you ever wonder how Esther Hicks learned about The Law of Attraction and channeling?

It all came from her husband, Jerry Hicks, who died in 2011, and his sources from the century old New Thought Movement.

But the real messenger, she claims, is "Abraham."

She describes Abraham as a collection of about one-hundred "nonphysical teachers" that deposit "blocks of thought" in her head while she's in a trance. She translates the blocks into words, acting out as Abraham and dropping the "I" in exchange for "we."

She's able to do this almost instantly on stage before live audiences, simply by relaxing and "letting them come in."

On stage, "they" begin with a greeting, a familiar warm up in which they tell you how pleased they are to have you in attendance for "co-creating."

That's followed by a riff on some topic, sort of a sermon and, then, a session where you're invited to march up and take a spot in the "hot seat" where they can ask ask Abraham for one-on-one guidance.

Off stage, Esther says Abraham dictates books by forcing her fingers to type on a keyboard.

That's the official story, anyway. In truth, while he was still alive, Jerry Hicks pressured Esther to write books to fulfill a contract with Hay House. He edited them, even while publicly insisting they were the untouched wisdom of Abraham.

Something new: Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree, Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction

The production of new books halted when Jerry died. Did he take Abraham with him?

Most, including her role model, Sheila Gillette, call what Esther does "spirit channeling," but Esther spurns that label, singling herself out as unique.

She interprets "blocks of thought" from nonphysical teachers who are informed directly by "Source," a term she chooses instead of God, although what you and I call "God" is what she means.

But do stumbles and errors show us that Abraham-Hicks might be a product of hers and Jerry's ambitions and not some divine source of wisdom?

I launched this article by giving ten examples of mistakes suggesting that Esther Hicks could not be channeling anyone or anything, at least not channeling any entity that was bright, educated or well-informed and certainly not anyone intimately connected with God.

I now have a list of fifteen for you. It wasn't hard getting there.

How Did They Plant It and Make It Grow?

Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks' Teachings and the Law of Attraction
Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks' Teachings and the Law of Attraction

Do the Teachings of Abraham-Hicks make sense, looked at closely and objectively? Did Jerry Hicks really die? Is there something to hide?

 

The List of What Esther Hicks Gets Wrong Every Time

Here are the things that, bit by bit, convince me that Esther Hicks is making it all up as she goes along and that Abraham-Hicks, is a hoax.

The reasons keep accumulating as more people look at and expose contradictions and, also, as insiders begin stepping forward to talk about their experiences with the Hicks operations. The easy life of cruising along in their monster bus doesn't come close to resembling the real life, 24 X 7 labor of managing Abraham-Hicks.

  • Here's a bonus reason, making it now sixteen reasons you can't trust Esther Hicks for guidance or wisdom. Honestly, I was going to stop at fifteen, but this one was so very awful, I had to put it in. Ready?

    "There is no state of physical decline or damage that you could not recover from-none-not any, if you knew it... If you wanted it and knew that you could. And that's those miracles that they talk about every day. They're not miracles at all, they are the natural order of things. But because they are rare, people think they are miraculous. They're not. That's the way it is supposed to be. You're supposed to thrive."

    ---Abraham

    Excerpted from the workshop in San Diego, CA on February 23, 2002

    Let's start with "if you wanted it." If it's physical damage, even a simple one like a visible scar, you are very likely to want it. Easy peasy. And now that Esther has informed you that "you could," why not just make that scar go away? There is nothing stopping you. The next Abraham-Hicks follower using this method to repair physical damage and has before and after pics to prove it, let us all know about it in the comments below. I'll arrange for you to get me copies and I'll post them here. Promise. But I won't be holding my breath waiting.

  • Jerry Hicks lost his battle with cancer after choosing a course of treatment that seems a direct contradiction of "the teachings of Abraham." Belittling conventional medicine on many occasions, Esther Hicks (in her Abraham persona) said that a near immediate return to health was possible, simply by changing vibrations. It would take as little as an afternoon, she said. While she was able to blame the victims of cancer and other illnesses by pointing out that they just weren't getting their vibrations right, she chose silence when it came to the sick man who slept next to Abraham for 25 years and had been described by her as the best at managing his vibration of anyone alive.

    Silence is especially golden when it protects the cash flow.

    So, devastating was the news of Jerry Hicks illness and so clearly did it threaten to expose Abraham Hicks teachings as fake that, after a clumsy, unethical effort to blame his hospitalization on a spider bite, they released a convoluted story about how he went for "heavy chemotherapy" as the "path of least resistance," a throwback to older, forgotten "teachings."

    Not until Jerry Hicks died did Esther concede that he'd been battling leukemia. She offered no explanation about why he hadn't simply followed Abraham's teachings, opting instead for a saccharine monologue that had little to say in tribute to her decease partner and a lot about herself.

    Notes:

    Esther Hicks on the best approach to medicine: "The very best approach to medicine is,'Well, I see your physical body is sick, what's been bothering you? What are you worried about? What are you angry about? What are you frustrated about?' Because that is what is at the root of all of this. And then say, 'Let it go, let it go, let it go.' That's the message, and if they could hear you and do that, then they would all be well right away."

    --- Abraham

    Excerpted from the workshop in Ashland, OR on Tuesday, May 16th, 2000

  • Did you know that a selfish child is "like Jesus" who didn't bother himself with concerns about others' (using Esther's word) "toylessness?"

    With this fantastic claim, Esther Hicks abolished Jesus' well-known empathy and kindness toward others in need and replaced it with indifference. (Remember, she claims that Jesus is a member of the Abraham collective of "nonphysical teachers."

    Earlier, speaking as Abraham, she connected herself firmly to Jesus (and other prominent religious figures like Buddha and Mohammad): "That which Jesus was, Esther is," she said while in her slick Abraham trance. It was first time Jesus ever became so narcissistic or enamored with wealth and possessions.

    There's more.

    In the same sequence, a concerned mother who had inexplicably come to Esther for advice introduced a new concern. It worried her (She couldn't stay "in the vortex.") that her son had a habit of kicking the family's cat.

    The always wise Esther Hicks ordered her not to interfere. It was between her kid and the cat. The cat was "teaching" the brat, according to Esther.

    Favorably comparing a child's selfishness to Jesus, followed up by encouraging animal abuse... Is this the spiritual guide to follow?

    Esther Hicks may be making it hard for even the true believers to stick with the her. Even the most duped in a cult ought to see the dangers in letting a child kick a trapped cat.

  • A lack of empathy exposes a lack of awareness about the contours of engagement in physical relationships. This is best seen in Esther Hicks' inability to comprehend the pain caused by the loss of loved ones in death and mockingly referring to death as "croaking," bragging about "being so disrespectful." Esther Hicks has stuck with declaring "delightful" every death experience without exception. It's worth noting, of course, that there is no one around who can contradict her, although growing mountains of evidence from NDEs tell a different story.

    (Note: Just for the record, Esther dropped the "croaking" references when Jerry died. He "transitioned," instead. Gone also was her heartless observation that, "It's always good to see the old ones go." Jerry Hicks was 84.)

    Probably the meanest is her claim that, after dying, we are without exception happy, even blissful, even those who have been immersed in a joyful existence up until that moment or who have left children, dependents and other loved ones behind. This trivializes life on Earth, just as traditional religions do, showing this "leading edge of thought" is simply a variation on a tired theme.

  • Esther Hicks claims that humans didn't evolve from apes, but were "a whole new idea." Nice try, but we share about 97% of their genes and the evolutionary track is fairly well understood. Other channels, such as Theo, have no trouble with evolution. We may be cluing in here more to Esther's (and the rest of country's) lack of scientific knowledge.

    Here is the quote in all it's thickheadedness:

    "There is thought, and there is Thought Form, and there is Manifestation. Manifestation is always in the eye of the beholder. So this time-space-reality that everyone is perceiving is nothing more than vibrational interpretation.

    So the Thought Form of that which is man was set forth from Broader Perspective, and has continued to evolve by the experience of those who were having the experience here on the planet. And what you actually see as man or human is vibrational interpretation.

    Now, did man come from ape? No, man was a different idea. So how does the idea of evolution occur? And we say: because the idea of each species was set forth, and as the experience of the species is lived, the idea expands. So the expansion is happening from the Leading Edge place and is supported from the Source Energy that flows everywhere the idea goes."

    Esther Hicks has also said recently that humans were on Earth during the time of the dinosaurs, missing her guess by only a few billion years.

    Wouldn't you think any "nonphysical entity" with the access to all the insight in the universe, as Esther and Jerry Hicks claim Abraham has, might actually know what high school science teaches can't be true?

Alternatives for Spiritual Guidance

If it's a spiritual journey you're on and you want a teacher or teachers, you can find better choices. Here are some personal recommendations from books I've enjoyed.

Unleash the Power Within: Personal Coaching from Anthony Robbins That Will Transform Your Life!
Unleash the Power Within: Personal Coaching from Anthony Robbins That Will Transform Your Life!

Anthony Robbins asks you to accept the reality of awakening and the need for making a massive effort to get what you want.

 

Ancient Alternative that Survives the Test of Time

The Four Agreements Toltec Wisdom Collection: 3-Book Boxed Set
The Four Agreements Toltec Wisdom Collection: 3-Book Boxed Set

The beautiful thing about The Four Agreements is the simple honesty of it. The wisdom may be ancient, but the insight is timeless. It can help you adjust your life, right now, today.

 

Take a Long Hard Look at the Teachings of Abraham

Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction
Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction

Have you ever looked at the story Jerry and Esther told about the birth of Abraham? What do the teachings really say? You might be surprised, even shocked at what you learn.

 

Where Jerry Hicks Learned What Became the Teachings Of Abraham

The sources for the teachings of Abraham in style and content aren't hard to find.

Jerry Hicks' Bible

Think and Grow Rich
Think and Grow Rich

This was Jerry Hicks bible, the "secret" wisdom from which he drew the teachings.

 

Five More Things Esther Hicks Always Gets Wrong

  • "Abraham Live," maybe the creepiest thing to come out the Abraham-Hicks marketing machine, even if the title itself wasn't weirdly funny, has begun to run concurrent with the workshops. For only seventy-five bucks, with no right to record a copy, followers can watch Esther do her shtick on their computers.

    In short, the Hicks Team is webcasting their workshops, much as the monster churches do, and they are probably gearing up to ask followers to pony up subscription fees, taking greed to a whole new level. As Gordon Gecko pointed out, greed can be good, but when you consider the sales pitch for this thing, it's hard to imagine who would pony up seventy-five hard-earned dollars for it or, really, why followers aren't already fleeing.

    Quoting directly from the announcement:

    "We recently had a chat with Abraham about these upcoming global broadcasts of our live seminars, which will allow people to participate in a live event without actually being in the room. So many people, from so many places around the world, have requested that we travel to their countries so that they can participate with Abraham, and this new Live Stream broadcast answers that request. It will be a great way for people who can't be, or don't want to be, in the seminar room to still participate in the seminar.

    "As Abraham used the word 'participate,' Jerry asked, 'Since the people won't be in the room and won't be raising their hands, and won't be able to sit in the hot seat to ask their question, what does Abraham mean by participate?' Abraham smiled..."

    Now when you consider the unintentional humor of going "live" with a group of "nonphysical teachers" who claim to be "deader than dead," you might overlook the suggestion of having a "chat" with them, but what got me was "Abraham smiled.... Now just exactly how does a nonphysical entity, who Esther Hicks claims gives her "blocks of thought," smile...?

    Nathan, who thinks I'm "close minded" (probably means closed minded) and have a bunch of other deficiencies, commenting below, argues that, if Abraham can convey thought with emotion, then they can convey a smile. Of course, in reality, Esther claims they convey "blocks of thought," not "thoughts with emotion" and a smile is a whole other thing. Nice try, Nathan.

    The word whacky doesn't even cover it.

  • Asked about severely disabled children and how the Law of Attraction would draw painful experiences into a baby's life and that of his or her parents, Abraham claimed these were "old souls"arriving damaged, just for the experience, saying nothing about how struggling parents attracted them.

    An important aspect of their preaching about the law, as explained, is that we are always in control of everything that happens in our lives. A random genetic error, an accident, Is not possible, since each individual creates every aspect of their experience. Esther is sometimes forced to come up with some fairly crackpot and impossible explanations to justify implausible circumstances.

  • In Boulder Colorado in June of 2004, Esther said this: "Every bit of it is about economics. Every bit of it, without exception. Everything about religion is about economics. Everything about politics is about economics. And everything about economics is personal satisfaction. Everyone is personally motivated to do the best that they can possibly do for themselves."

    But in Kansas City in September, same year, she said this: "Your world is pointing toward an insistence on conformity which is causing you enormous grief. It's what's at the heart of all of your religious battles, and religious battles are what are at the heart of all of your battles. In other words, all of your wars and global irritation with one another are over your determination to promote sameness. Your democracy insists that it's the only government that works. And every religion (it's interesting to note) proclaims that it is the only one that works."

    But Esther, didn't you say it was all about economics? Oh, well...

  • Recent books, especially in the series starting with the power of emotions as a subject, are not direct quotes from Abraham. They are rehashed versions of the teachings, stretched out with object lessons about certain situations, much in the style of the earliest Abraham recordings. They are expurgated by Jerry Hicks, according to his own lights, which reduces their credibility for several reasons we can save for another time.

    To get a better perspective on this, try to get your hands on the audio version of these books. At the close of each, they include an Abraham-Hicks live session recording. The difference is dramatic. Moreover, the books are spoken by Jerry, not Esther, who appears only in the introduction. Jerry has never claimed to channel Abraham.

    (Note: It was confirmed for me by a person involved that these later books were a project conceived by the team as a way of repackaging teachings Abraham had already offered. The trouble, of course, is that this makes them someone else's selective interpretation, not the pure, gut stuff we were told came straight from Abraham.)

  • From the simple Law of Attraction teachings, the Abraham-Hicks team has added many complicated procedures and new ideas. Now, instead of "you get what you think about" and "birds of a feather flock together," we have a "vortex"where desired things are held in abeyance. They haven't been delivered because the time is not yet right or, the standing explanation, "you're not letting it in."

    Also, when it was revealed that, contrary to Esther and Jerry Hicks' claims, the "Law of Attraction" did not originate with them, they migrated it to the clunkier term "Vortex of Attraction," which does.

End Of The List For What Esther Hicks Always Gets Wrong

  • The 2012 harmonic convergence predictions. At first, Abraham shrugged these speculations off as useless because, according to the Law of Attraction, we will get what we attract then, and nothing can be predicted in advance. Later, pressured by true believers in their New Age audiences, they fell into the harmonic convergence line and talked about new knowledge and awareness in the world today that would lead to great change in 2012. Popular demand engendered new truths, it seems.

    By the way, none of the big changes ever occurred. Wrong again, Abe.

  • Wisdom, if viable, doesn't need all the marketing and image control used by Abraham-Hicks. It's getting to be as if Jesus were pitching pricey sandals and offering to lead pilgrimages for a fee.

    In a nearly ghoulish twirling of Jerry Hicks cancer into a marketing tool, Abraham Hicks on July 7th, 2011, sent out an email blast with this exact wording:

    "We so much appreciate all the inquiries and love that you have been sending our way and we wanted to give you a quick update.

    "We're going to fly to Del Mar on Monday for the next phase of our rebalancing act in getting Jerry back on his feet and feeling frisky. Every day we're experiencing the relief that we can only receive from Abraham as they remind us about the power of the Vortex. We are enjoying the comfort when we are able to ignore the temporary what-is.

    "Abraham recorded a wonderful segment for Jerry last night guiding him toward complete comfort and ease, and that is exactly what he is focusing on now. We'll continue our city-to-city workshop schedule as posted, which means that we'll be enjoying the company of our friends in San Francisco on Saturday, July 9th. If you'd like to join the generally frisky Frisco workshop group, you can call the office before 4 p.m. CDT on Friday (830-755-2299). The last San Francisco workshop was filled to capacity, so a phone reservation would ensure that we won't run out of chairs."

    They didn't even enter a paragraph break between the news of Abraham recording a segment, whatever that might be, probably a workshop rehearsal tape, for Jerry and the pitch for tickets. This isn't illiterate as much as it is Freudian. "Move over now, Jerry, we've got tickets to sell."

  • In twenty-five years, wouldn't these "eternal beings"with direct access to the "Source," or supreme being, have come up with one original, really useful idea? I'd have been happy with a simple cure for the common cold.

    (Nathan again, commenting below, implies that Abraham did provide a cure for the common cold. Right. My mistake. Here it is: Don't think about colds and you won't get one. How did we all miss that for so long!)

    Abraham has never provided a new idea. Esther and Jerry Hicks just took techniques developed by Seth and Theo, both of whom Jerry and Esther were very familiar with before Abraham arrived, and blended in ideas from the old "New Thought Movement." Abraham's "hot seat" conversations with attendees are entertaining and sometimes enlightening, but they break no new ground.

    I'm not saying they don't occasionally come up with something fantastic, but something useful and objectively observable would be nice. Most of us would love to have what Esther preaches be true. Well, not the animal abuse stuff, but a lot of it.

    How about telling us how radiation or toxins cause cells to become cancerous? Gold star for Esther, if she can peg that one.

  • Abraham's teachings are simple. There has been nothing new in a decade, except for exercises and concepts like "the Vortex."But like a jalopy without brakes, the machine keeps rolling from seminar to seminar as long as cash is available. Is this what one who professes to be as wise and all knowing as Abraham would do? Why not give it away?

    If the Law of Attraction works as Esther Hicks and Abraham have taught, then Esther and Jerry's abundance is assured anyway. So, why keep pumping out new products and cruises when there is nothing more to say?

  • Thudding boredom and marginal literacy have entered the realm of Esther, Jerry and Abraham Hicks.

    It's only fair to assume that an entity with the wisdom and access Esther and Jerry Hicks claim for Abraham would be thrilling to hear from. For many of us, they once were, but here's a recent entry from their Vortex writings:

    "I Can Attract Relationships That Agree with My Desires... People are not finding it difficult to find the mate of their dreams because that person is not out there, but because of their own contradiction to their own desire in the thoughts they offer about the subject every day.

    When you consistently offer thoughts about your future relationship that feel good while you think them, that means you are consistently matching the desires that you have discovered as you have lived life. And under those conditions, only someone in agreement with your desires could come to you. Under those conditions, no need for control is necessary.

    Through each exposure to interacting with others, you launch continuous rockets of desires of what you prefer. And only when you are a Vibrational Match to the culmination of those desires will you allow your rendezvous with someone who matches those intentions that you have gathered along your physical trail."

    --- Abraham

    Excerpted from the book, The Vortex, Where the Law of Attraction Assembles All Cooperative Relationships # 80

    Anyone who can read that through without dozing off has my admiration. Who thought anyone claiming so much wisdom could be such an infinite bore?

  • Abraham Hicks is baffled by String Theory.

    You'd think an entity claiming access to all the wisdom the world has ever known would be able to comment on a popular scientific thread that might bolster some of their claims, but no. According to a recording supplied by a friend who prefers to remain anonymous, Abraham doesn't even know what it is.

    Simply, Superstring (commonly known simply as "string") theory tries to explain some of the peculiarities of quantum physics by proposing extra dimensions and constituents of matter that make the quantum world appear as it does. Abraham, after hearing a man describe himself as a "recovering physicist" and make a simple explanation of what string theory was supposed to do, politely listened as Esther explained that going back in time was a waste, seeming to get string theory as something to do with evolution, which, of course, we already know she hasn't a clue about.

    If Esther Hicks is going to continue faking Abraham, she'd do well to read some newer books and stop looking at herself in the mirror while counting ticket sales.

In Conclusion

If you believe, as I do, that anyone offering guidance from the highest spiritual source ought to be consistent and original, you will find Esther Hicks lacking. If you believe any God worth having would be compassionate, you won't find that in Abraham.

My fifteen reasons are a brief summary. I could easily find a hundred contradictions and errors in fact. If you're looking for a teacher, you can find better. That's a fact.

Faking or Channeling a Real Nonphysical Entity?

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© 2010 David Stone

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      James Clinton 8 hours ago from Washington, D.C.

      i thought it was also the discovery of all embezzling.

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      David Stone 2 days ago from New York City

      Without the sex scandal. That's what got the Bakers, not the mumbo jumbo.

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      James Clinton 2 days ago from Washington, D.C.

      that’s what i’ve been wondering also. the money and her narcissism. she’s no different than jim and tammy baker. her followers are the same kind of gullible people, including my spouse.

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      David Stone 3 days ago from New York City

      Enough contradictions to fill an Olympic stadium. The answer to your question is two-fold. She likes the money and is a narcissist addicted to the attention. As long as the crowds show up, she'll dishing.

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      James Clinton 3 days ago from Washington, D.C.

      I wonder. If words don’t teach (they do), why does Esther (Abraham) fill up multiple books and seminars full of words?

      Most of what is said is pure gibberish nonsense, especially in the books.

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      David Stone 10 days ago from New York City

      More power to you. If you've never "paid one cent for any of it," all that shows is that you've been limited to edited infomercials.

      "Hmmmmm...I am wondering why someone goes to such great length to against a person who inspires, uplifts and helps people as people continuously have said."

      Answer: that's what writers do, research, ask questions, report. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

      This comment is so like dozens of others before it, it suggests a fake identity cooked up to pitch for the business. Not sure if it is, but it does smell like it.

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      RosePetal007 11 days ago

      Hmmmmm...I am wondering why someone goes to such great length to against a person who inspires, uplifts and helps people as people continuously have said.

      Esther/Abe have helped me tremendously during very hard times in my life with all areas of my life health, love, work, etc.

      And I have not paid one cent for any of it. They make their materials available for free and frankly why shouldn't they charge for adding value to people's lives; I would gladly pay to Esther speak too. How is it that dontating money to religious organizations even if they don't help is not frowned upon I wonder. Frankly everyone has a right to their opinion and your opinion is yours and thousands others who continue to benefit from Esther's teachings, it is theirs; she is not responsible for Jerry's vibration. Everything she talks about resonates; I have gotten through some insanely complex, rough times because of her and I am infinitely grateful for it as others have indicated here and there is nothing and noone who can belittle the positive impact she has had on my life. I hope she makes more money doing doing what she is doing; she deserves every peeny of it and I wish her all the success, health and long life in the world; she is one of my angels and I hope everyone discovers what she teaches; it's splendid, wonderful and works.

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      James Clinton 13 days ago from Washington, D.C.

      Oh yea. I’m familiar with the other stories. As four questions from the hot seat - right in a row - were related to meditation- the spelling with the nose story was told and told differently.

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      David Stone 13 days ago from New York City

      Yeah, it just gets lost, these day. True believers don't care. There is yet another story, two really. The first is Abraham popping up the first time on a dangerously crowded interstate and telling Jerry to "take the next exit" where they have their first Q&A. The third tale has Esther's fist suddenly pounding her chest in bed one night, then being led to the typewriter where her fingers are forced to type out the message "We are going to write a book together." That's how she explained writing "Ask and It Is Given." Trouble was, they'd already written to Abraham books before that, because they were independently published and didn't sell well, they probably thought people would not discover.

      Many, many contradictions... you'd think the act would have worn out by now.

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      David Stone 13 days ago from New York City

      That trend's been coming for a long time. It's a shame so much has been lost. I have some very old recordings from Hay House podcasts, and you could just see where it went off the rails after 9/11 which she flubbed explaining because it was over her head. Then, when Jerry died, it got worst. The compromises he got her to make faded and all that was left were echoes of the past and unconvincing echoes at that.

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      James Clinton 2 weeks ago from Washington, D.C.

      One more point to my experience in Asheville this weekend. The story about the way in which Abraham introduced them/itself to Esther. Previous accounts have Jerry realizing that Abraham was using Esther’s nose to not only spell the alphabet but also introduce Abraham to them. Now. Esther is ‘aware’ enough to realize that she is doing the alphabet with her nose and that Abraham is introducing themselves through her.

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      James Clinton 2 weeks ago from Washington, D.C.

      Went to the Asheville seminar. I am more convinced than ever that Abraham is no longer there and that this is about Esther now. She shamed one woman about going to a therapist after she divorced her husband. Most of the people who were called to the hot seat were either regulars who attend the seminars or as I suspect, plants. I so wanted to be called up to the hot seat to throw her a curve ball. It’s as if the questions being asked are too easy and too planned. The answers are too pat. There seems to be more shaming than in previous years. It seems to be getting worse.

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      David Stone 2 weeks ago from New York City

      Yeah, there is a tendency to blame the victim, which shows that Esther is at the wheel and doesn't understand. After a while, I was able to tell when Abraham was present (decreasingly) and when Esther was scrambling to repeat what she'd heard in the past.

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      James Clinton 2 weeks ago from Washington, D.C.

      I'm with Toula on most of everything. However. I've noticed that when I listen to Abraham (I really think it's just Esther) carefully. I've concluded that she uses LoA as a shaming device. Basically it's your fault for attracting bad stuff to you and shame on you. I had enough shaming in christianity - ergo why I left at a young age. A spiritual teacher should not be shaming you.

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      David Stone 3 weeks ago from New York City

      I published a whole book on it last year: "Tangled Up in Abraham Hicks" It's on Kindle and paperback, if you'd like to dig deeper.

      Thanks, and good luck. There is undoubtedly "something" to LOA, but Esther has told the story so many different, conflicting ways, you wonder if she ever remembers anymore.

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      Toula 3 weeks ago

      Wow! Thankyou for this blog!

      I recently got into LoA. I always loved the concept even when I didnt know it had a name. The Secret destroyed it for me, and recently I got into it again thanks to very lovely and uplifting youtube videos from various people. I got the Esther Hicks book (law of attraction) and read a bit. Because Im superlazy I decided to listen to Ester Hicks youtube videos instead :). I found it very offputting. First of all I didnt find her empathic at all and she didnt sound nice. I could hear how insecure the people in the audience where when I listened to their voice. I couldnt believe a guide would talk like that to people (assuming it was Abraham who talked and not Esther herself). Not only that was offputting but alot of things she said didnt resonate at all with me and my beliefs.

      I can type everything out but I think you know what I mean :).

      I couldnt find any skeptic video on youtube and decided to google instead. I found this blog among others and wow! Im so glad Ive read it!

      I still love the concept of LoA and that a positive mindset and vibration is the key to a loving life.

      But attracting unrealistic things, curing cancer, and the whole cult like vibe...

      Its too bad how people can make such a beautiful thing into a money making machine.

      But thanks for the message! It was very refreshing to read those details from someone who put time into it. I got into the Hicks stuff for a weeks and couldnt know this all.

      I will still apply the LoA to some extent but I want to focus more on being balanced: being as positive as I can be, being kind to other but having negative thoughts evey now and then because that feels good too!

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      David Stone 5 weeks ago from New York City

      First, Esther is not Jesus.

      Second, read the article. you'll find plenty that is far from "life affirming advice," but in the words of Paul Simon, "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

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      Frank 5 weeks ago

      I think if you want to demonize any source it is relatively easy - if you want to. Even Jesus Christ get's misinterpreted and demonized.

      For demonizers, I watch for fallacies of reason, and for legitimacy of source material from Spirit, I look for positive, life affirming information. Mankind has also horribly misinterpreted God. God is love. Love is life affirming. Any source with undue negativity, vindictiveness, or lacking compassion doesn't pass muster. On the other hand, From years of listening to The Teachings of Abraham, all I've heard were positive life affirming advice on how to feel good, connect with one's inner Spirit and co-create a positive future.

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      Jacqui 3 months ago

      I've been listening to Abraham-Hicks for a few months and found it inspiring because it is great on the high-flying disc where you are supposed to have access to what's in your vortex. However, I don't understand how so many people living the life with all the material things most of us desire don't appear to be on the high-flying disc. Some of them are down-right mean, miserable and arrogant.

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      David Stone 8 months ago from New York City

      You are in rough shape, kiddo. Get help. This rant in no way reflects the teachings of Abraham.

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      James Clinton 8 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I'm so glad I found this blog. To Gaile Gamble who posted about Abraham/Esther's response to the election.

      a big THANK YOU! OMFG. I also started putting two and two together and got red states. I had recently heard via my husband (more on this later in my comment) that Abraham/Esther feels that some of the republican's financial policies are helpful. WTF? History has shown us that all republican economic policies are a disaster and it has taken a Democrat to clean them up.

      I started listening to AH back in June. Initially I bought the whole thing hook, line and sinker. My husband certainly has. I'm very much a critical thinker and am very analytical. So. I'm not buying it anymore. Just like I never fell for the religion/christianity crap. I've analyzed the teachings, words, meditations, etc.

      Something started to not ring true about all of this.

      It's the financial crap that she says. of course she can say the things she says about making money. Jerry was loaded already from being a financial advisor. But the thing that made me start to wonder if this was all a ruse was finding out that Jerry spent time in the circus. Hmm! I started to wonder if this was all just a parlor trick/circus act, just like mediums.

      I'm going to a AH workshop in April. I would love to figure out a way to trip her up and expose her. My husband is in this deep. While we haven't spent a great deal of money on the recordings or books (everything is on Youtube), i'm a little concerned that he's going to want to start going to all the seminars. He's spoken of such. I inherited some money from my mother that i'm trying to save it.

      It was also the relationship mediation that made me start to wonder about this. The meditation says that if you look for characteristics that aren't there, they will show up 'it is law'. I was looking for such in my husband , since June last year. No such characteristics have shown up. I've also noticed some contraindicative behavior in him that dont gel with the teachings. He has the tendency to fall for this crap. He was a big follower of Bashar and then Kryon, etc. I want my old husband back. I really think he doesn't see the cult nature of all of this.

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      David Stone 10 months ago from New York City

      Party on, Ted. You seem to be having a lot of fun.

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      Ted 10 months ago

      Science has proven telepathy is real. Abraham is subject to the errors all humans can make because according to Abraham they are a collection of people that lived before us. True / False? OK... Are all messages from others always accurate? So, be responcible for what you think and believe. If you like it.... Great! If you don't... Stay away. It seems to me life is like a self fulfilling prophecy.... What you believe about yourself becomes your personal truth . Not always.... And not always right away no matter how quickly we want it manifested. However, sometimes things, events, or people come into our lives at the right time. Is Abrahams teachings the right path for you? Only you know the answer to that. I also think certain people have abilities others don't have. So... Be vigilant in who you listen to because it can have good or bad consequences... Just like anybody else you listen too. I happen to like Abraham for the clarity it gives me as I explore how to best manage my life.

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      David Stone 11 months ago from New York City

      Sorry, Lily. I have no control over the ads. That's HubPages doing their thing and is one of the reasons I don't create new content here anymore.

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      David Stone 11 months ago from New York City

      I couldn't agree with you more.

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      Lily 11 months ago

      How about letting me read the article for more than 2 seconds before your extremely ANNOYING "Rate this article" popup covers it and doesn't allow me to see the whole thing!! IDIOTS! I give YOU a rating of -1,000!

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      Gaile Gamble 11 months ago

      Steve Grandinetti hit the nail on the head for me. I have been following Abraham-Hicks regularly for about ten years and attended one workshop a couple of years ago. I had felt that much of it made sense UNTIL the recent UTube presentation where Abraham is asked about the election. Instantly I felt that infinite wisdom would not have responded with the nonsensical answer that it didn't matter either way, that neither candidate would have any effect on our lives, and that it was the "best election ever". I know Esther and Jerry had lived in red states for years and it occurred to me that she might be projecting her philosophy. Whatever the case, I'm finished. I'll go back to my affirmations from The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peale, which I used for years and felt much better: "I know I am always guided, directed and protected by a Divine Power. I know I will always take the right turn in the road. And I know that God will always make a way where there is no way. "

      My life was going very well during that time. And I didn't constantly feel like a failure because I hadn't created the fortune I desired. I got jobs, traveled, "accidentally" found my perfect partner (and I wasn't even looking for anyone at the time). And we are still together 44 yrs. later. And we both agree that this has been the most terrifying election we have ever experienced!!! One could say perhaps Abraham needs more information about politics in the USA, as well as the candidates and their respectivc parties. Or one could just recognize that the repetitious and insulting answers are definitely not coming from "infinite wisdom". That makes more sense to me.

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      David Stone 11 months ago from New York City

      I hope you bounce back quickly.

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      Daniel 11 months ago

      I used to listen to Abraham on youtube everyday, now I wish I had not, it took me several month to undo the damages, this lady is so self obsessed and stupidly insist that you go sit at home and just listen to her Vortex bullshit and miraculously you get what you want... It completely ruined my life, I lost my job, I ran out of cash, could not find a job for almost a year and bank wants to take over my house, every disaster you could imagine came into my life. Abraham Hicks is so full of shit... and her opinions are far from truth in any sense!

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      David Stone 11 months ago from New York City

      I understand.

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      Steve Grandinetti 12 months ago

      So happy to have found this page. I so agree that love, compassion are the highest wisdom. Unfortunately it seems as we try to find alternatives to the ol' time religions we keep getting caught in the same web of manipulative people using previous ideas to make themselves a fortune, while sincere people looking for answers fall for the bs. All I know is that every time I watch Esther Hicks something feels off and my intuition tells me there is something very off. That is how I found this page, because I knew I wasn't the only one who sees through the facade. And while she, ooops "they" are now telling us that this election has no effect on our lives, which fits into this cold uncaring attitude, I cannot watch anymore.

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      David Stone 12 months ago from New York City

      Too deep for me,

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      n/a 12 months ago

      Abraham is amazing?

      your a joke.

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      David Stone 13 months ago from New York City

      That's not accurate. Many people feel regret over leaving loved ones who depended on them behind. It's a mixed blessing. Yes, they usually, although far from always, say that the afterlife is filled with joy. That's different from saying they were delighted to leave children, beloved pets and other loved ones behind. What sort of spirit would be that self-absorbed? Other than Esther, I mean.

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      nik 13 months ago

      Anyone who as claimed to have a near death experience say that all they felt was love, a love so deep that it was hard to put in words. I read up until you wrote that, then I rolled my eyes and thought to myself....negative nancy!

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      daniel 14 months ago

      Abraham hicks, is a thief, a scam! I have used the "law of attraction" for ages. And I can tell that all she says, are copy pastes from great authors such as "William Walker Atkinson", "Maxwell Maltz" and "Neville Goddard" some of these Authors wrote their books a century ago... she claim to have the power of channeling and impersonate herself as infinite intelligence, while most of the time when she is asked questions, her replies are just bullshit!

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      sophia11 14 months ago

      I could be commenting on an old post here - Channeling is tricky business - You must research the information given. Entities that come through channelers could be of lower vibration often give; feel good, vague and repetitive recycled, re-phrased information - they are often funny. They give off the 'fun' vibe - full of humour, loaded with analogies. If you get this from any channeled entity KNOW they are from a lower vibration realm/state. Channelers are often deceived by these entities themselves and may not know it. at some stage things should present themselves weird, strange or just don't add up - some channelers may overlook these events and continue for what ever reason. (they should not, unfortunately some continue). How do you know if the entities coming through is high vibration? The Channeler themselves must be live a life reflective of the teaching. You already know (inner knowing) what love and its qualities look and feel like - your knowing must resonate the information channeled. Information must be clear and concise - in cases where certain information could not be given (usually due to timing) the entities will simply let you know - "that information cannot be given at this time" Lower vibrational entities will answer anything, but will beat around the bush with long explanations and never really answer your question. Why beat around the bush? 1. they're having fun wasting you time and they find the look on your faces irresistible. 2. they don't have authority to give certain information. You should know LOA is not a big deal - all it does it makes you super aware of whatever you're focus on and you will always see it - NEVER own it. I hope this help some of you seeking the truth. If its wealth you're seeking - remember the physical law as well. Just because something is speaking through someone does NOT mean they are of higher anything nor do they have to speak hate to be of lower anything. Deception come in many tones.

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      David Stone 16 months ago from New York City

      Yes, Esther Hicks offering insight into the Biblical history and bending it to fit her pitch is close to hilarious from a distance. Up close, it's depressing. I've seen worse from her, but this is a good example.

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      Terry 16 months ago

      I was getting hooked on these free lessons, until one comment from Abraham brought me back to my senses.

      Someone in the audience had wanted to know about the crucifixion of Jesus. Abraham/Esther's response was that Jesus had many lessons to teach us, but that he "Dropped the Ball" when he got out of the vortex, and this resulted in the crucifixion.

      Comments please.

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      Maureen 17 months ago

      I've been a listener and reader of Abraham Hicks a couple of different times over the years, in addition to many other people and their teachings.

      I also read "The Secret" when it first came out. I was left feeling awful after reading it, as though all that mattered in this world were material items and cash. I also came away with this terrible feeling that this book could do more harm than good with people engaging in a lot of self-loathing over their lives and inability to materialize outrageous wealth. I quickly followed reading "The Secret" with another book called "Beyond The Secret" by Lisa Love, which made me feel better.

      Over the years, I have taken all of that information and processed it, along with other teachings, my own life experiences, and the observations I make of others. And giving something another listen after you've grown and changed can make a difference, too.

      Essentially, what I get now from the teachings of Abraham is, we have to be aligned within ourselves (with the Source, God, or whatever name you like), because in this alignment, we have access to inspiration and guidance for our actions.

      In this alignment, we feel good. In this alignment, we stop looking outside, even to Abraham or any other teachers. We use that internal feeling guidance to assess what is before us and 3what we should do next.

      As for empathy, certain responses Abraham has given seem to lack empathy. But, I get the underlying message. The message is, we cannot align another or manage their alignment for them. If they are suffering, we can encourage them/remind them of their alignment. But really, that is all.

      This is perhaps a different take on not being able to change another person, only yourself.

      I did not see the session about the mother of the child who kicked the cat. I struggle to understand why the mother is even asking the question. Get the animal away from that gawddamn kid. We can preserve our children's connections without letting them run roughshod over other people and animals.

      As for suffering, I think we are coming to a clearer understanding of how we bring it to ourselves. Look at currently accepted wisdom that stress indeed is the precursor to disease. Many people don't want to believe this because they don't want to change their own lives.

      Further, this was not conventional wisdom not all that long ago.

      Talk about being simplistic: It is much easier to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your crummy life, blame other people, and be a victim than it is to take responsibility and get yourself aligned by understanding the power of positive emotion, energy, and your own innate power.

      Abraham Hicks didn't say it was easy. And it's not. Abraham Hicks said you have to get yourself right if you want your world to go right. Essentially, your life is going to go a lot better if you emit loving, happy, positively expectant vibes than unhappy, miserable, and a complete blindness to the ability to change vibes.

      It's really about changing a set point. That's why it's so hard at first. It's changing habits of thought and feeling.

      It is when people start the progress and a mansion fails to fall out of the sky within a week that gets them. That's their own deal. No one said that will happen.

      Abraham Hicks even says, don't expect everything you want instantly. Expect it incrementally. She also says in the beginning, expect only to feel good. And, honestly, in many people's lives, getting there is miraculous, as steeped in blame, victimhood, and negativity as we are.

      Abraham Hicks cannot make anything happen for anyone. It's guidance. That is all. As for contradictions, there are many facets to every issue. In this case this, in that case that. Even aside from Abraham Hicks, the same issue in a different situation may require a different approach, one that seems contradictory to a previous situation.

      Also, I often think it's funny how many people dismiss such messages like Abraham's so utterly, but believe without question, the veracity of modern medicine. For example, there is no test to objectively diagnose depression or bipolar disorder, to name two. But we accept those diagnoses as real, then take medicine that experts currently have no understanding for exactly how it works. But, down the hatch it goes, and to an alarming degree in the U.S.

      Additionally, medical research is rife with financial conflict, if you want to discuss conflict. Funders for many studies are companies/organizations who have interests in those studies producing certain results. Moreover, the FDA has palms that need to be greased to get those approvals through.

      As for people using the teachings of Abraham to commit treachery unto others, like the husband leaving the wife and two small children for someone else because he feels more "aligned". Maybe he does. Maybe it's an excuse for an affair. But either way, he is doing that, not Abraham.

      Finally, we have to arrive at our own answers. As to the goal of happiness, first we have to be willing to give up unhappiness. That may mean giving up whole identities we've built up around being victims of something negative. Look for examples of people who've overcome some horrendous suffering by learning to gain dominion over the negative thoughts and feelings. It's not easy, but if you listen to one of these people speak, you see how they replaced the negativity with positivity. That is, in essence, what Abraham teaches. Esther Hicks makes money from it. So what?

      There is plenty on youtube free of charge for people, so the teachings can be accessed for nothing at all. I bought one of their books for my Kindle for under $8.00.

      All of these high profile people attract people who become mindless cult types. That is them. I see nothing in the many, many videos I've watched to indicate mind control. There are people in this world who will pick up and become devotees to anything. Take the current craze in adult coloring. So many getting on the bandwagon. It just appears stupid to me. But then, I never stopped coloring, so I guess my life simply syncs with the trend. Anyway, people wear this stuff, any stuff, not just spirituality or Abraham, but even loving bacon, like a cloak. See me? I'm joining with what's popular. I;m hip. That's why we, as humans, serve advertisers so well.

      So being who we are, being able to listen and agree or disagree based on what we feel about it inside, is the key. Not what other people have to say or how popular it is, but how it hits us.

      Finally, I love forums like these because they're about ideas, critical thinking, and deciding what's right for your life--what resonates as truth for you. We all know the feeling, that panging intuition that is the best bullshit detector I know. If it's telling you that Abraham is not truth at all for you, then go with that. If it tells me that the teachings of Abraham are truth for you, then go with that. I can leave you to your truth and live my own, respectfully.

      Your forum here allows people to bounce their beliefs off others. No one should ever shut down, listen or read only one person, get defensive, or call someone stupid for believing or not believing their premises. Well, pretty much as Abraham say, it is the contrast that helps us grow.

      In the interest of complete disclosure, I have a personal development website called youincredibleyou.com. It contains blogs about my own experiences, my own truth--the only one I have--techniques I've used to help me feel better, and a daily message I send out to subscribers, free of charge.

      I encourage the exposure to many teaching and especially to those that vehemently disagree with what you hold as truth. You have to sift, sort, and make it your own....or not. But standing in the midst of utter disagreement helps that process along.

      Thank you.

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      Deesdeeds 18 months ago

      I respect your opinion here.

      I must say that I have applied the teachings for Abraham to my life and the results have been amazing.

      In reference to Jerry's cancer treatment, although Esther is the channeller of Abraham it does not mean that she or Jerry would not react to life contrast as any regular human would and select cancer treatment as the option of least resistance.

      I believe they have provided value to many people's lives and that is what truly matters.

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      David Stone 23 months ago from New York City

      An interesting summary of your experience. Thank you, Danielle.

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      Danielle 23 months ago

      I came into listening to "Abraham"/Jerry/Esther Hicks in the past several weeks after it being suggested I give it a listen. I was even forwarned that it would be "a little off-kilter"but the bulkof what they say is good information. I won't lie, many of the talks I listened to on YouTube were funny, but I found it very difficult to keep up with Abraham's rants, intended to "inspire" you, as he/she rambled them off SO quickly.

      After listening to several of these 15min quips, I decided to download the "The Law of Attraction" audiobook. I mean, hell, Oprah did the satellite radio interview for 2 shows....so why not. Today, I turned it on in my headphones, and to my surprise, its from 1989. Ok...well, lets kee going...then I realized, the story is VERBATIM of what she told to Oprah. Like, script exact. Ok, wait. Let's be fair, lot's of celebrities use scripts to answer questions in interviews so as to not be blind-sighted...BUT, here's what got me and INSTANTLY made me skeptical. In all the recent recordings, and in Oprah's interview Esther and Abraham sound one-and-the-same, the only difference being Abraham speaking a little faster and with a little more ego. Now, if you listen to that 1989 recording...Abrahama has a VERY distinctive accent. VERY clear. I thought, meh anomaly. Maybe she hadnt learned to control him so easily an speak in her voice, her accent and not his...nope. I found other recordings, and in several there is an accent, but its inconsistent every time and eventually, there is no accent at all. Now, answer me that one....

      Regardless, she and Jerry dida brilliant job marketing The Law of Attraction and getting that knowledge out to the public. And maybe Esther did have a connection at one point, and lost it. Real psychics will tell you, and mediums as well, that it's not like a machine.They cant just "turn it on". Information comes when it comes. Sometimes when someone is there with them, sometimes not. sometimes they have to reach out and contact them, like an answering machine asking them to get back to them. But, the accent thing really turned me off and made it feel like it was all a performance, a holier-than-thou performance.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Feel free to quote at will. Good luck with your blog.

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      Kate North 2 years ago

      Hello David, is there a way I can get in touch with you? My email is k.north411@gmail.com and my new blog is responsiblespirituality.wordpress.com (feel free to remove that from this comment). I would like to join the bloggers who are looking critically at Abraham-Hicks, and occasionally I might like to quote your words and link to your articles if this would be OK. My perspective may be a bit different from yours, but we both stand for critical thinking.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      It puzzles me that she still sells, although much less than before.

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      Awake 2 years ago

      Esther continuously contradicts herself. I suppose that's why she enjoys using that word to favor her agenda.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Doyle, you make the common error of personalizing your criticism. You insight into "which type of person" I am is meaningless when, as is true with virtually every A-H defender who comments here, you cite not one example to back up your claim that I take what Esther Hicks has preached "wildly out of context." You didn't because you can't. I've quoted directly from the list of quotes Abraham Hicks Publications distributes in email blast daily. Are they out of context too.

      Your trouble, I sense, is that posing what Esther pitches against reality makes her look shallow, cold and thuddingly dull. Rather than make your case, you claim "out of context" and condemn the messenger. It's an old story, tried a hundred times in the years I've been writing about this cult.

      Let me give you and example of the duplicity. Jerry Hicks died in November, 2011, after a year long battle with leukemia. His experience puts the lie to a core "teaching" from the alleged spirit guides "Abraham." How does Esther Hicks and her team deal with the contradiction? Just as they did when Jerry's promise to bounce right back to his old self, following Abraham's guidance, failed. They are in denial. If you take the time to check the bios on their website, they claim Jerry is still alive, more than three years after his death, with more bounce in his step than men half his age. Really? The site also claims he and Esther are still free spirits driving around the country in their "monster bus." Time to renew Jerry's driver's license, maybe.

      Finally, you claim that Esther teaches "that all modalities can be useful if they raise our vibration/energy..." First, she says no such thing about energy. You made that up to fit your argument. As far as "our vibration" goes, I'm still waiting for anyone to define what that is. I realize it's meant to imply a connection to quantum physics, but even there, no vibration is personal and is nothing more than potential material. This is an example of the nonsense Esther preaches and followers are expected to swallow. It goes down best without thinking.

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      David Stone 1 2 years ago

      I allow the David Stone copy "David Stone 1" to express David Stone's ideas about Abe and Esther.

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      Doyle Scott 2 years ago

      I just spent several hours reading many of the comments here. I happen to be a big fan of Abe Hicks & credit many of my successes to their teachings. There are so many things that have been taken wildly out of context by David, that it just makes me laugh. Very much like the cafeteria Christians I know who take one or two verses out the Bible and conveniently discard the rest. I don't think I've ever blindly followed any philosophy or spiritual tradition but I have willingly listened to many . All I have done is applied spiritual concepts to my life & looked for evidence of whether they work or not. Some of the results, from applying the Abe stuff, have often left me breathless. I am my own evidence & seldom rely on other people's approval or disapproval of said concepts. I guess there will always be two sides to every coin...David sees a lack of compassion yet I see an incredible amount of compassion in what Abe teaches. Some say that Abe suggests there is no need for modern medicine but the consistent message from Abe is that all modalities can be useful if they raise our vibration/energy from where it was. I long ago discovered that there are 2 types of people in the world, those that like to build people up & those that like to tear people down. I didn't have to read many of David's comments to determine which type of person he is.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Right on, Francie. I agree with you completely. Thanks for commenting.

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      Francie S 2 years ago

      I read/listened to some of Hicks stuff. Which is fine if you listen in moderation like anything else. I would listen at the gym do the whole feel good vortex thing. Come out and then later in the day, I'd find myself to be a bit agitated. My issue with her teaching is that I live here on earth with humans. Every human is different and if I followed what she taught, I'd have to live in some alter world. I'm trying to live here on earth. This is the life and form that God gave me. What I needed to do to get the answers that I needed was turn to God. I don't care what God you believe in, God will answer you when you need help. Do good, be good. If Esther was able to give me the answers that I needed then why would I have to turn to God. One day I laid it all out to God and I said you gave me this life and it's important that I do good and be good, but this what I want in life. You have to help me with the truth for this particular situation. Now, God knows my intent/goals and I follow the guidance accordingly.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @lynnasafriend: If Jesus is coming, it will be surprise to most of the planet.

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      lynnasafriend 3 years ago

      Look in the Holy Bible (King James Bible) Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.I see the word sorcerers, and I think people like this also look to familiar spirits, (those are ghosts or what they think are ghosts) familiar spirits are demons who are not the person they come as, they come as something a person is familiar with so they don't show their true self or they would have a heart attack seeing the demon that is actually being channeled. 2 Chronicles 33:6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.Jesus is coming quickly, we should be ready.

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      hamguin 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: Dave, you win.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @hamguin: So, you don't mind being conned. You're obviously very enlightened, and it's easy to understand why facts would not be helpful to you. You live in a reality that doesn't need them.

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      hamguin 3 years ago

      I have no idea if the process she describes is what she actually experiences. In fact, I don't care. I have not given the Abraham-Hicks business a dime, while I have enjoyed watching YouTube videos of their sessions. In other words, I find it both entertaining and, in some small ways, enlightening. I don't hear what she says as some absolute truth (not sure there is such a thing) and simply take what resonates with me and leave the rest.As far as all of the energy you have put into this lens, I hope you have enjoyed creating it. It didn't prove helpful to me, but that's just me.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @pigal: Thanks, pigal, for your entertaining, insightful comment.

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      pigal 3 years ago

      I came across this woman two years ago. I found some of what she said inspiring..then came the realization that this 'Abraham' was a collection of someone she was channeling through. Ok. Game over. I listened far more closely. This is what they do when it does not work. Blame it on the wannabeliever. If something is a law of the universe, then it does not work or work based on whether I believe it or not.There is the Law of Gestation, the Law of Transmutation (which are the Law of Attraction) The Law of Polarity, the Law of Rythym, The Law of Cause and Effect, the Law of Polarity, in all 7 natural laws of the Universe. I do not have to vibrate or nose dive into some swirling vortex. These laws work, whether I believe in them or not. So, do not insult my intelligence by telling me I am not manifesting because I am not vibrating, or I am not in the vortex. These fast talkers always have a justification why their road to self-improvement does not work and to me, that says 'fraud'. Who needs Abraham and Esther posing as Jesus, God et al. Whether or not one is religious or believes in Jesus, read his teachings in the Bible. This is a 2000 year-old-messaged glossed up for MONEY! It's all about BELIEF. Successful people never doubt themselves, ever. They believe in themselves, all the time. They fail and keep on going. Richard Branson of Virgin failed at many businesses, but he never gave up, so did Abraham Lincoln who filed for bankruptcy 6 times and lost every political office initially, but he never gave up. Heinz of Heinz ketchup failed, Ford of Ford motor car failed, Walt Disney failed, he too filed for bankruptcy. They believed and never gave up. The message is so simple, really. Jesus said that as a man believes so will he be. If he has faith enough, he can move the mountain. We lack faith in ourselves and we search for it in these quacks. Many of these 'followers' would not think of reading the teachings of Jesus, rather just drop money in this sock puppet's lap and believe her 'Abraham'. The woman is a fraud and so is Abraham. There is no vortex - but wait, that is a great hook, is it not?You want to be rich? Write some nonsense about talking to God or some law. As long as people believe in alien abduction, Big Foot and the Lochness Monster, these frauds will become richer.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @opheliadelafuente: If you never receive solicitations, what do you call those workshop announcements that accompany every daily quote? If you weren't a plant, you'd know that. This comment echoes numerous others people have been asked to write.Have you ever noticed that you are not charged for watching television commercials? A-H YouTube channel is the same thing, carefully edited to pitch Esther in her best light and live out the "problems." That's why they're so aggressive about not letting anyone post videos not authorized by A-H. If it's all freely given, what's the diff? It's about controlling the image and the message, Marketing 101.Nice try, and by the way, my beeswax is what I decide it is, not you.

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      opheliadelafuente 3 years ago

      A lot of people seem to be caught up in the money-making aspect of this, implying that Esther Hicks is some kind of selfish, money-grubbing charlatan. However you are all missing one very important fact. Of course she does make money off of the whole Abraham thing. However, ALL of the information you need to follow this path is absolutely FREE. You Tube videos abound. There are countless excerpts on the website. I signed up to get a quote from them in my email every day. And I NEVER receive solicitations. A few times a year I get an email announcing when they do the cruise or go on tour. That's it. You can buy books if you want to. You can pay to see her live if you want to. But unlike many, many other self-described "spiritual gurus", NONE of that is necessary in order to access this information. To me, that really says something. Also, for the record, if you don't believe her - the don't listen. Don't watch her videos, don't read about her, and respect the right of other people to believe something different from you. It's no skin off your nose. So mind your own beeswax :)

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @tamara-llenadefe: Hay House has been very successful with their books. Some are good, and some are dreadful. The problem is, if what they were selling five years ago was so good, why do they need to sell some new guru this year? They don't seem to exercise enough discernment in whose claims they publish. And, by the way, I bought into an offer from them about six years ago and ended up with one of the stupidest books I ever got stuck with. Once burned, I didn't go on to get scarred.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @tamara-llenadefe: A lot of people have stories like yours. When people get hooked on magical beliefs, they would sometimes rather point fingers at others than learn and grow. It's not that there isn't something about what Esther Hicks calls the "law of attraction," it's that she sells it like soda pop, too easy and too good to be true. Nothing in the universe goes on in isolation.

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      tamara-llenadefe 3 years ago

      @grannysage: I agree with you, I always receive promotional a emails to sell me videos of chopra and dyer, the last from dyer I felt like it was a shopping channel trying to sell me a material item, it is so sad

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      tamara-llenadefe 3 years ago

      I agree with you Dave there are better authors for spiritual grow, I knew a woman who had an obsession with Abraham and law of attraction, I always told her to be more critical and rational, she even went into living in a flat that she couldn't even afford and booked flights to go to her home land even though she had problem with an application to become a national of the country she is living in, I told her that was risky to buy the tickets but she was so involved in the law of attraction that she thought by concentrating she was going to be able to go and visit her family, I didn't say more, one day I called her and her husband told me the docs arrived but she had not been given the nationality and I didn't ask more, her husband said she was still going and I thought that is a bit risky, few days before the date she had told me she was going, I called her to wish a good trip, she said she wasn't going and I said I was sorry, few days later I received a text from her saying that how it was possible that she had opened her heart about her feelings and that I was laughing at her because she couldn't go to visit her family, I was very upset because that was stupid to say that childish thing, but then I understood why she was able to follow Esther hicks, I think you have to be very childish to follow that.PS my friendship with this woman ended .

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sandyblue5: sandyblue5, your rationalizations are the most perfect example magical, cult thinking I have ever seen. Nature has given us the gift of critical thought, discernment and decisions about values. The best thing we can do is use that gift, not squander it on empty fantasies.

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      sandyblue5 3 years ago

      I think every human being has a choice about what he thinks or chooses to think,that is a God-given gift. In the same way whatever you choose to believe is true according to your personal perception and therefore your reality. Esther thinks Abraham is real,so be it. You think it's all fake so let it be. I believe life is better when you choose to think happy thoughts, Abraham's teachings or not, and that is good enough for me and I believe for all human kind. After all we all just want the feelings brought about by the fulfillment of our desires or the final emotional satisfaction of it, so why not just skip to the end if you can?

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      grannysage 3 years ago

      I must say that I am troubled by people who make money by selling spiritual truths. That includes Dyer and Chopra, although I use their quotes a lot. Peace Pilgrim said that spiritual truth should never be sold and refused to take any money for it. And her teachings are every bit as valid as other spiritual gurus of the age. I have a dear friend who had an NDE and now is channeling. She wrote a book about it and charges more than I could afford, although I bought it because she was a friend. She also charges a lot for channeling sessions because her spirit guides told her to. My guess is that people feel they haven't received something of value unless they pay for it. I am becoming more attracted to ancient teachings such as Lao Tzu which can be found for free. But even Dyer is taking those teachings and rehashing them into his own products. At least he presents his materials on PBS. My own belief is that everything is perfect, even though on the surface it seems insane. I do believe that souls decide to be born with challenges to face because it is all about experiencing life in its many variations. Instead of worrying about whether other teachers are real or not, I find more peace from working on my own level of awareness.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @rayray01: Thanks, rayray01, I couldn't agree with you more.

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      rayray01 3 years ago

      I really appreciate your clear commitment to this. I like that you seem to have tried to stay as factual and as least-political as possible. I definitely think it is important to discuss these ideas - particularly for those people who are or have been swept up and dropped dry. I think there are hard working, intelligent people, who have found that this isn't working for them, and that's an important realisation to get to. I think your article offers some acknowledgement to the intense frustration (and pain?) of disillusionment. On the other hand, I also think that A-H have offered a lot of hope into a lot of people's lives. Swapping to the other hand again tho - I also think that their message has been misinterpreted to create an environment of "blame the victim" which is a very dangerous state to be in... and no help to humanity either. "oh you're starving? it's your fault - you attracted it" -- I'm not saying that A-H said or implied this, I'm saying that this is how it is interpreted. Which is a shame. On the other hand - I also like the merging of religious figureheads to demystify their "exclusivity" to one religion... Anyway. Thank you for your time and effort. I also really valued your offering of possible alternatives. Very valuable. Kind regards, and with love

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @rubenharo2014: I couldnt understand your question. Read more like a speech to me.

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      rubenharo2014 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: YOU HAVE NO ANSWER THEN? I thought so.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @rubenharo2014: Good luck to you in dealing with all that.

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      rubenharo2014 3 years ago

      I am so glad I can insert my opinion, and I congratulate you on exposing your thoughts. It is coincidental that at this point in my distress and anguish I should find your insight, which nonetheless, brings down all my hopes and dreams about finding a new and satisfying way to live and achieve everything my heart ever desired since I am in this present moment, in an economic, emotional and spiritual demise. That is how the Universe works , I guess?. I am not resentful. I just grief.One other thing I add to my own list of A-H. rebukes, is my most serious doubt about a so called Infinite Intelligence, compassionate and most auspicious to the myriad of its extensions. IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR PAIN AND GRIEVING. It seems to me the Universe should work on an amendment to its Laws. I remember a verse in the Old Testament "...In my distress I cried to the Lord, and He heard me, and He released me from all bondage." A.-Hicks seems to interpret God as saying "I do not need your pain, butt off!". Everything you say makes sense. And at one point or another I was prey to some of those thoughts. However, I figure it was my own materialistic outlook that promoted my vision of a new and brightly lit path into an enlightning new life and threreafter. Here is my plea to you: I am interested in finding out what in all the conglamorate of your consciousnes you do find resonance with in all the Hicks stuff (not meaning offense at all), so a can find relief and belief.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @ronalds4percent: More interesting speculation than I usually see here. Enthusiasm is always a good thing. But there are a couple of points you make that are not quite accurate.First, there is no "overall decline in well-being." That's a fantasy promoted to advance a cause. People's health is better than any time in history. There's less crime, fewer wars and life expectancy is increasing everywhere. There is no evidence anywhere for such a decline. It's cliché nonsense, convincing only to generations who've been hook on television and movies.The premise that "you gotta make a choice: either you're a believer or a 'knower'" is an empty slogan. With our explorers in every field of science and discovery only beginning to penetrate what there is ultimately to learn and skeptical about whether we will ever really have the tools to see it all, no one has such a choice. We're far from any such black and white decisions. We're still muddling along on the borders of discovery with much more to come.

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      ronalds4percent 3 years ago

      Perhaps a few things to consider. For most people, an objective fact means something 'scientifically proven'. However, how would you feel if somebody claimed to have any authority regarding a subject they admittedly can only investigate, test, experiment, etc. 4 percent of? This is exactly what science is doing: studying 4% of 'reality, while ignoring the remaining 96%, which they know has to be 'out there'. Until further notice, they'll give it some meaningless names ('dark energy' and 'dark matter') and get on with their agendas. Furthermore, a great deal of the measly stuff they can test and experiment with, shows such irrational behavior, it forces them to make up the most fantastic theories about it (string theory, parallel worlds theory, etc.) - if it wasn't for science' stamp on them, these theories would be regarded as 'science fiction' :-)This would be a comical situation, were it not that, for instance, the medical world rests on the findings of this same science, although it means that the mechanistic way they're regarding and treating the human body is actually based on very limited knowledge. The argument that science is so successful in the realm of technological development is a valid one, but only regarding the visible/measurable part of reality. Treating humans (and other animals) like machines would be fine, IF that's what they really are. The existence of phenomena like the 'placebo' and 'nocebo' effect, spontaneous remission, etc. should, instead of making scientists shake their heads (and pharmaceutical giants grind their teeth), open the way to completely new views on the origin of 'dis-ease', but it doesn't. Treating symptoms is a very lucrative business... Neither the mind boggling findings of quantum physics, the absence of any knowledge regarding 96% of 'reality' and these strange 'medical' phenomena don't seem to shake people's believe in science and their adherents, mostly because almost nobody takes the trouble (nor has the time) to look into this matter (no pun intended) by themselves - and so the consequences of a world ruled by ignorance and greed (increasing decline of health, wealth, let's call it the decline of 'overall well being') remain intact.Regarding Esther Hicks, I do enjoy her work and find it at least a bit strange that, for the reasons stated above, anyone who's taken the time and effort to 'study life' would find the essence of what she has to say cumbersome. This world might very well be govern by 'believes', and me, for one, would rather overestimate the importance of 'matters of the heart', than of the 'mind' (for as far as it's limited to my brain, anyway). After looking at the 'evidence', which shows how little we (can) know, I can only assume that maybe it's all about deciding which pill you wanna take: the red one or the blue one (I hope you all watched 'The Matrix' :-) Simply put, you gotta make a choice: either you're a believer or a 'knower' - you take full responsibility for your own life (for starters) or not.

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      anonymous 3 years ago

      Hi there,Thank you for your thoughts. Here are some of mine, I hope they are slightly interesting or at least helpful to somebody. I am quite young, and on a spiritual journey, and I stumbled across the Hick's teachings a few years back. I began this last year to have a warning in my heart and in my head that they were "culty", and being so young, and without much experience to base my new experiences off of, I sometimes get sucked into charismatic speakers. Thank you for your voice of doubt: it has confirmed my own interpretations. Although some of her ideas (if they were hers at all) have been helpful in my life in real ways, I will say that you make an excellent point at considering where her agenda lies and how creepy some of her assertions truly are.It is, in my opinion (and after reading your post), silly to assume that someone is "all-knowing" or unbiased. Every human being has some kind of motivation for their behavior, and Esther is a human. Although I would like to think that Esther's motivations are pure, and that she is truly trying to help people, I now doubt this. It is just too convenient for her to say she is communicating with other worlds instead of speaking from her own human perspective. This disassociates her from her own humanity and responsibility, which is quite strange to me: why would anyone want to do that if not for some abdication of responsibility for their actions or for the implications of what it is they teach? If people are actually denying medical treatment because of her wacked out opinions, that's not good. They should be denying medical treatment based on their own allergies to the treatment, scientific research... But I digress. Back on point... Some of the most powerful spiritual teachers that I have read, including don Miguel Ruiz, have actually asserted their own humanity in the process, not tried to speak through some other worldly spirit. It is, in my opinion, necessary for spiritual teachings to in some way or another assert their own humanity instead of denying it for the teaching to be relevant at all: we are human beings folks. It is so funny to me that she talks about "resisting what is" when she is actually denying her own humanity and pretending she is from another spiritual world! I'm not out to attack her, but it does make her teachings incredibly inconsistent and therefore unhelpful, which is really all I care about.As a result of my new opinions, I do not doubt spiritual teachings altogether, so thank you for listing some other resources that are of greater depth and are probably more useful. I've enjoyed Tolle and Ruiz, and am excited to read the Dalai Lama, and I will be giving away my one Hick's book I own.Thanks for helping my journey!Sincerely,Lynne

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @David Stone1: I thought I should add that an important takeaway is that, for the reasons stated above and regardless of the presentation, there are important lessons to be learned in what Esther and Jerry borrowed. The burden, though, is in having enough insight to separate the wise from the woefully misleading.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @CCatherineC: CatherineC, I can agree with much of what you've said here. But plagiarism is a trickier deal, requiring a direct repeat, not a simple reordering or reuse of the material in a new or changed context. But there is no question that the basic all came from prior sources. Esther and Jerry's success, I think, came from making it into more of a performance, a staged event that captivated viewers, much as the old traveling preachers in tent shows did. Esther simply does it at Holiday Inns, instead.

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      CCatherineC 3 years ago

      My boyfriend played a video and asked my honest opinion. I watched the Esther to Abraham transition happen in about 15 seconds. I wanted to see the buzzing teeth and all the stuff Jerry saw. What I saw was Esther remained the same. No personality shift, speech pattern changes, or change in mannerisms. I watched this with an open mind. Prior to Abraham making the grand entrance, Jerry stated that they "started making even MORE money." I knew then. Esther was raised as a Bible thumper, hence the name Abraham, directly from the Bible. All of the stuff that spews from Esther's mouth can be found in all of the books written by other people that Jerry was familiar with. She should be sued for plagiarism.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Thanks, Dan. You've pointed out something that has been a problem for others.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: I just came across this site. Been studying the Abraham material. Good point about the medication. Abraham material really gives a negative view on meds. People may think to not take medications. Then think different thoughts. That's really bad advice, especially for people that need to be on medication. If you don't take the med route, you're a bad Aber and that's not a good stance. I agree with some points of the Abraham material. But like you write, there are some flaws. Esther really shouldn't be giving medical advice, especially when Jerry couldn't think his way out of chemo.Dan

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I love Esther Hicks and everything she has to say about how the universe works. Unimaginative is not a word that describes this deep well-rooted woman. She knows a lot, and I'm prepared to listen to her, even if she likes to pretend; this is a fun trait she possesses. ;-)

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      use what resonates and toss the rest, to each his own...

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Give yourself a calm place, Virginia, where you can quietly contemplate the question, What do writers do?Guess what? They write! And they write what they know about in detail to inform others. This is not "hatin'," Virginia, it's doing the research and reporting the conclusions it points to.I hope you understand this challenging point now. Thanks for asking.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Dave, you really find the time to write this? Come on, man, get a life and stop hatin' ...

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Thanks, Doc. I do wish people would throw the Abraham Hicks baby out with the bathwater. Esther Hicks never offered anything original in content or even in style. There are much better, original resources that will not be discovered because Esther tosses out the "easy" hook. No effort needed. Just change your vibration. Man, I'd love to have her give an explanation of what that is. Spiritual candy, I think. Food for the spiritually lazy.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      Dave, like your blog a lot and glad that when I type "esther hicks" into my search engine, your blog comes up fairly close to the top. I was intro'd to A-H philosophy in 2006 via some CD audio recordings that were lent to my then-wife by her air-headed bff. Although I find A-H philosophy to be at least as entertaining as watching a sitcom and have found their theories on death to be thought-provoking, I have often wished that someone would require a warning label be placed on some of (if not all) Mrs. Hicks' content. You, sir, are the closest thing there can be to that wish - so, um Thanks. Regarding mental power to heal, I have some advice: It has a long way to go. Potential is there, but for now, I really think that most of us are better off just admitting that when you get a diagnosis of leukemia at age 84 then the universe might be giving you a heads up that your odds of making it to 85 just went down quite a bit! I hope that most people will keep the baby and just throw out the dirty bathwater...meditation, positive thought, hope, and inspiration should garner much more focus in our world. Discovery, scientific method, rationality and skepticism are delicious and fun also! Keep up the good flow everyone. Wishing all readers a long and happy life.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @len-mckee-5: Thanks for the note, len-mckee-5. I took a quick look, but it's all new to me.

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      len-mckee-5 4 years ago

      Abraham's 20 years of lessons on mansionworldteachings.org are not in any way related to Ester Hicks material. His lessons on MansionWorldTeachings are NOT for sale or to be marketed, but free to any person will to make personal correction. The site is still in process of doing the edits.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Brandon, why did you use a different name? The one you used before was much cooler.Anyway, if you can navigate over to my bio page and scroll down to "Scientific Proof, Life After Death," you'll see - probably to your dismay - that I am very well versed in rich spiritual domain to which we all belong. Of course, followers of Esther Hicks have trouble dealing with people who actually do the work and the research to find truths. Swallowing the Abraham Hicks teachings whole is so much easier. You can quit on life and just work on your vibrations. How nice! Sadly, the rest of us have to carry to load you and others like you who are too spiritually lazy and confused to to contribute with. We are adults and proud to be responsible grownups. We do hope you will join us some day. You and we would really be rewarded to see you make the effort to be part of the adult community. Come on, you can grow up, can't you? Give it a try. I promise you won't regret leaving juvenile addictions to magic behind. You've got one life, buddy. Do something great with it.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      People living in boxes will never believe those who are free. It is two polarities, one very fear based and the other very optimistic. These are the same people who deny the existence of spirits or anything non-physical which many believers have experienced, they are not ready to evolve so let them live in their tiny box.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Scylia, this is your last post because it's all just more of the same. If you don't like how an argument is made, that's not my problem. Deal with the issue. Other readers will decide what's true and what's not. (Your defensiveness doesn't help your case, by the way, and neither does your enthusiasm for talking about yourself and your worldview.) You may have noticed that this lens is not about me or you, although you seem to think it is.If you have something new to comment about Esther, etc., you are free to do so to your hearts content, but this is the last volley of the ping pong match over style, not substance. You don't like the world. You've made that clear. So, go spew your venom elsewhere.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Dave, the belitteling is not in the disagreement or presenting a different point of view - which I don't mind, read previous post - it is in the way how the counter arguments are made, i.e. asking me what planet I live on, 'superior to demonize some easy targets for a crowd that doesn't let thinking interfere with their daily cynicism', 'sour grapes and the same old hatred ' et al. That is what I am referring to. It doesn't sting or rattle me at all, I don't know you from Bob so who cares. But, and I put that in question in another post you won't publish, why the belitteling comments about a person and not just sound argumentation about the subject at hand. I believe that our society is not based on truth, and see much more evidence of it than not. You believe otherwise, seeing lots of good people doing good, I am not asking you on what planet you live, am I? No, I am covering the discussion and I do not assume anything about you that I don't know. FYI, there is no hatred for people here, just bewilderment, and I am certainly not shallow, a fact you'd know if you'd care to investigate (or knew me). I wish I were more shallow, perhaps life would be a heck lot more enjoyable and I could ask somebody how they were and not care about the answer. Shallow, you called my beliefs shallow just because I am of a different opinion! Amazing! Furthermore, your contentment about condemning people with different opinions explains why you don't fall for Esther Hicks. You must condemn her, as you seem to condemn most others who don't agree with your position. And last, I never said I followed Esther Hicks, that you just assumed because I am reading your blog and have an opposing view. But do remember, I commented on the society based on truth bit. Nothing more.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Scylia, you need to expect others to respond as fervently as you do. When someone disagrees with you, that's not belittling you. It's presenting a different point of view. If it stings, you might ask yourself why your beliefs are so easily rattled and not get excited about the fact that they are so shallow anyone can punch holes in them.Your contentment in condemning a world in which you aren't happy and see mostly "rotten apples" explains your falling for Esther Hicks. It would be her or some other life-denying religion. At least Esther makes it easy. All you have to do is vibrate. Nothing to it.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Thank you for confirming my thoughts about the manner you enter a discussion that I posted in another comment, that you obligingly did not approve for publication. A lot of assumptions about me above: that I fail to recognize the media's stories as rare, that I may feel chipper and superior, sour grapes and I must hate the world et al. Instead of a graceful reply to my statement, I must be made look to be a silly person with a chip on my shoulder? In answer to what planet I live on, it would be earth, last time I checked. As you know full well, and I know full well it's just a figure of speech. I am constantly 'accused' of being naïve when I persist in believing that people are good and will do good. But, contrary to what you say, a lot of them show traits that don't necessarily earn the word truthful. Yes, my family and friends are great, but co-workers come to mind that pick fights for no other reason than jealousy, bosses undermine their co-workers when it suits their own purposes, and then we have the big stories which are not just a few rotten apples, It would be difficult to find a few good apples among them. And it's those people we are asked to trust. No, I don't agree that we live in a society built on trust, never have and maybe never will. Knowing that and still be able to do your thing despite of it (and not get depressed) that means having grown up. To me. B.t.w., I do not watch tv, read newspapers, go to church or any on that. I belong to the cult that is called life, a life in which people can come to their own conclusions, may discuss them but not be belittled for them.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Ally, thanks for including today's freely distribute quote from the Abraham-Hicks operation. Esther's is a robust blame the victim theology. It extends through other implications like victims of crime, war and accidents. Of course, even Esther and Jerry didn't believe this. They just sell it.What makes it extreme is that followers have taken this as medical advice and gotten into serious trouble. No accounting for bacteria, germs or cellular malfunctions - you just aren't thinking and (Ugh!) vibrating correctly. It's your fault. Esther has said this is true even for infants born with disease (AIDS transmitted from the mother's blood, for instance) and children too young to speak. They got the negative thoughts from their parents, she claims.While these beliefs may be just stupid to thinking people, they care also cruel and void of caring for others. What sort of person endorses these things?

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: If there is no source of illness, why are there so many sick people? It is because they have found lots of excuses to hold themselves in vibrational discord with wellness. They are not letting it in. And when they don't let it in, the absence of it looks like sickness. And when enough of them do it you say, "Oh, there must be a source of sickness. In fact, let's give it a label. Let's call it cancer. Let's call it AIDS. Let's call it all kinds of terrible things, and let's imply that it jumps into people's experience." And we say it never jumps into anybody's experience. It's just that people learn through trial and error, and through banging around with each other patterns of thought that don't let it in. ---Abraham Excerpted from the workshop in Buffalo, NY on September 27, 2000 Our Love, Esther (and Abraham and Jerry)Didn't jerry die of cancer? I cannot stand these people/made up people/ whatever

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Thanks, Debra. The negative comments from Abers show how little they know or follow what their guru teaches. It's been an interesting debate, but I do wish that Esther's defenders would come up with better arguments. More often, it's defensiveness and disordered thinking, as if scrambling to put something cohesive together that just isn't.As you suggest, I think we are only beginning to understand what the whole of life, physical and nonphysical, is all about. It's an exciting time where veils are being lifted and chances, like yours, come along to see through a little more. Chasing down that trail to wisdom is as exciting as things can get. And your instincts are right - the answers are not there yet, just tantalizing clues.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Well put! Nice to hear some balance. I love the way you think. We are limited in our knowing and an alarm bell always goes off for me when I hear people say that they know the TRUTH. I have had amazing exchanges with spirit - both spirits close to me and those close to people that are strangers to me yet I would never for a day pretend to "know" what was right for someone else. I see Dave receives so much in the way of negative comments but the positive ones, like yours, are the only ones that provide explanation and common sense. Thanks for the read