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15 Reasons You Can't Trust Esther Hicks or Abraham

Updated on August 23, 2017

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Esther Hicks On Stage

Learning Not to Trust Abraham-Hicks

Did you ever wonder how Esther Hicks learned about The Law of Attraction and channeling?

It all came from her husband, Jerry Hicks, who died in 2011, and his sources from the century old New Thought Movement.

But the real messenger, she claims, is "Abraham."

She describes Abraham as a collection of about one-hundred "nonphysical teachers" that deposit "blocks of thought" in her head while she's in a trance. She translates the blocks into words, acting out as Abraham and dropping the "I" in exchange for "we."

She's able to do this almost instantly on stage before live audiences, simply by relaxing and "letting them come in."

On stage, "they" begin with a greeting, a familiar warm up in which they tell you how pleased they are to have you in attendance for "co-creating."

That's followed by a riff on some topic, sort of a sermon and, then, a session where you're invited to march up and take a spot in the "hot seat" where they can ask ask Abraham for one-on-one guidance.

Off stage, Esther says Abraham dictates books by forcing her fingers to type on a keyboard.

That's the official story, anyway. In truth, while he was still alive, Jerry Hicks pressured Esther to write books to fulfill a contract with Hay House. He edited them, even while publicly insisting they were the untouched wisdom of Abraham.

Something new: Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree, Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction

The production of new books halted when Jerry died. Did he take Abraham with him?

Most, including her role model, Sheila Gillette, call what Esther does "spirit channeling," but Esther spurns that label, singling herself out as unique.

She interprets "blocks of thought" from nonphysical teachers who are informed directly by "Source," a term she chooses instead of God, although what you and I call "God" is what she means.

But do stumbles and errors show us that Abraham-Hicks might be a product of hers and Jerry's ambitions and not some divine source of wisdom?

I launched this article by giving ten examples of mistakes suggesting that Esther Hicks could not be channeling anyone or anything, at least not channeling any entity that was bright, educated or well-informed and certainly not anyone intimately connected with God.

I now have a list of fifteen for you. It wasn't hard getting there.

The List of What Esther Hicks Gets Wrong Every Time

Here are the things that, bit by bit, convince me that Esther Hicks is making it all up as she goes along and that Abraham-Hicks, is a hoax.

The reasons keep accumulating as more people look at and expose contradictions and, also, as insiders begin stepping forward to talk about their experiences with the Hicks operations. The easy life of cruising along in their monster bus doesn't come close to resembling the real life, 24 X 7 labor of managing Abraham-Hicks.

  • Here's a bonus reason, making it now sixteen reasons you can't trust Esther Hicks for guidance or wisdom. Honestly, I was going to stop at fifteen, but this one was so very awful, I had to put it in. Ready?

    "There is no state of physical decline or damage that you could not recover from-none-not any, if you knew it... If you wanted it and knew that you could. And that's those miracles that they talk about every day. They're not miracles at all, they are the natural order of things. But because they are rare, people think they are miraculous. They're not. That's the way it is supposed to be. You're supposed to thrive."

    ---Abraham

    Excerpted from the workshop in San Diego, CA on February 23, 2002

    Let's start with "if you wanted it." If it's physical damage, even a simple one like a visible scar, you are very likely to want it. Easy peasy. And now that Esther has informed you that "you could," why not just make that scar go away? There is nothing stopping you. The next Abraham-Hicks follower using this method to repair physical damage and has before and after pics to prove it, let us all know about it in the comments below. I'll arrange for you to get me copies and I'll post them here. Promise. But I won't be holding my breath waiting.

  • Jerry Hicks lost his battle with cancer after choosing a course of treatment that seems a direct contradiction of "the teachings of Abraham." Belittling conventional medicine on many occasions, Esther Hicks (in her Abraham persona) said that a near immediate return to health was possible, simply by changing vibrations. It would take as little as an afternoon, she said. While she was able to blame the victims of cancer and other illnesses by pointing out that they just weren't getting their vibrations right, she chose silence when it came to the sick man who slept next to Abraham for 25 years and had been described by her as the best at managing his vibration of anyone alive.

    Silence is especially golden when it protects the cash flow.

    So, devastating was the news of Jerry Hicks illness and so clearly did it threaten to expose Abraham Hicks teachings as fake that, after a clumsy, unethical effort to blame his hospitalization on a spider bite, they released a convoluted story about how he went for "heavy chemotherapy" as the "path of least resistance," a throwback to older, forgotten "teachings."

    Not until Jerry Hicks died did Esther concede that he'd been battling leukemia. She offered no explanation about why he hadn't simply followed Abraham's teachings, opting instead for a saccharine monologue that had little to say in tribute to her decease partner and a lot about herself.

    Notes:

    Esther Hicks on the best approach to medicine: "The very best approach to medicine is,'Well, I see your physical body is sick, what's been bothering you? What are you worried about? What are you angry about? What are you frustrated about?' Because that is what is at the root of all of this. And then say, 'Let it go, let it go, let it go.' That's the message, and if they could hear you and do that, then they would all be well right away."

    --- Abraham

    Excerpted from the workshop in Ashland, OR on Tuesday, May 16th, 2000

  • Did you know that a selfish child is "like Jesus" who didn't bother himself with concerns about others' (using Esther's word) "toylessness?"

    With this fantastic claim, Esther Hicks abolished Jesus' well-known empathy and kindness toward others in need and replaced it with indifference. (Remember, she claims that Jesus is a member of the Abraham collective of "nonphysical teachers."

    Earlier, speaking as Abraham, she connected herself firmly to Jesus (and other prominent religious figures like Buddha and Mohammad): "That which Jesus was, Esther is," she said while in her slick Abraham trance. It was first time Jesus ever became so narcissistic or enamored with wealth and possessions.

    There's more.

    In the same sequence, a concerned mother who had inexplicably come to Esther for advice introduced a new concern. It worried her (She couldn't stay "in the vortex.") that her son had a habit of kicking the family's cat.

    The always wise Esther Hicks ordered her not to interfere. It was between her kid and the cat. The cat was "teaching" the brat, according to Esther.

    Favorably comparing a child's selfishness to Jesus, followed up by encouraging animal abuse... Is this the spiritual guide to follow?

    Esther Hicks may be making it hard for even the true believers to stick with the her. Even the most duped in a cult ought to see the dangers in letting a child kick a trapped cat.

  • A lack of empathy exposes a lack of awareness about the contours of engagement in physical relationships. This is best seen in Esther Hicks' inability to comprehend the pain caused by the loss of loved ones in death and mockingly referring to death as "croaking," bragging about "being so disrespectful." Esther Hicks has stuck with declaring "delightful" every death experience without exception. It's worth noting, of course, that there is no one around who can contradict her, although growing mountains of evidence from NDEs tell a different story.

    (Note: Just for the record, Esther dropped the "croaking" references when Jerry died. He "transitioned," instead. Gone also was her heartless observation that, "It's always good to see the old ones go." Jerry Hicks was 84.)

    Probably the meanest is her claim that, after dying, we are without exception happy, even blissful, even those who have been immersed in a joyful existence up until that moment or who have left children, dependents and other loved ones behind. This trivializes life on Earth, just as traditional religions do, showing this "leading edge of thought" is simply a variation on a tired theme.

  • Esther Hicks claims that humans didn't evolve from apes, but were "a whole new idea." Nice try, but we share about 97% of their genes and the evolutionary track is fairly well understood. Other channels, such as Theo, have no trouble with evolution. We may be cluing in here more to Esther's (and the rest of country's) lack of scientific knowledge.

    Here is the quote in all it's thickheadedness:

    "There is thought, and there is Thought Form, and there is Manifestation. Manifestation is always in the eye of the beholder. So this time-space-reality that everyone is perceiving is nothing more than vibrational interpretation.

    So the Thought Form of that which is man was set forth from Broader Perspective, and has continued to evolve by the experience of those who were having the experience here on the planet. And what you actually see as man or human is vibrational interpretation.

    Now, did man come from ape? No, man was a different idea. So how does the idea of evolution occur? And we say: because the idea of each species was set forth, and as the experience of the species is lived, the idea expands. So the expansion is happening from the Leading Edge place and is supported from the Source Energy that flows everywhere the idea goes."

    Esther Hicks has also said recently that humans were on Earth during the time of the dinosaurs, missing her guess by only a few billion years.

    Wouldn't you think any "nonphysical entity" with the access to all the insight in the universe, as Esther and Jerry Hicks claim Abraham has, might actually know what high school science teaches can't be true?

Alternatives for Spiritual Guidance

If it's a spiritual journey you're on and you want a teacher or teachers, you can find better choices. Here are some personal recommendations from books I've enjoyed.

Unleash the Power Within: Personal Coaching from Anthony Robbins That Will Transform Your Life!
Unleash the Power Within: Personal Coaching from Anthony Robbins That Will Transform Your Life!

Anthony Robbins asks you to accept the reality of awakening and the need for making a massive effort to get what you want.

 

Ancient Alternative that Survives the Test of Time

The Four Agreements Toltec Wisdom Collection: 3-Book Boxed Set
The Four Agreements Toltec Wisdom Collection: 3-Book Boxed Set

The beautiful thing about The Four Agreements is the simple honesty of it. The wisdom may be ancient, but the insight is timeless. It can help you adjust your life, right now, today.

 

Take a Long Hard Look at the Teachings of Abraham

Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction
Jerry and Esther Hicks' Spiritual Money Tree: Stories Behind the Abraham-Hicks Teachings and the Law of Attraction

Have you ever looked at the story Jerry and Esther told about the birth of Abraham? What do the teachings really say? You might be surprised, even shocked at what you learn.

 

Where Jerry Hicks Learned What Became the Teachings Of Abraham

The sources for the teachings of Abraham in style and content aren't hard to find.

Jerry Hicks' Bible

Think and Grow Rich
Think and Grow Rich

This was Jerry Hicks bible, the "secret" wisdom from which he drew the teachings.

 

Five More Things Esther Hicks Always Gets Wrong

  • "Abraham Live," maybe the creepiest thing to come out the Abraham-Hicks marketing machine, even if the title itself wasn't weirdly funny, has begun to run concurrent with the workshops. For only seventy-five bucks, with no right to record a copy, followers can watch Esther do her shtick on their computers.

    In short, the Hicks Team is webcasting their workshops, much as the monster churches do, and they are probably gearing up to ask followers to pony up subscription fees, taking greed to a whole new level. As Gordon Gecko pointed out, greed can be good, but when you consider the sales pitch for this thing, it's hard to imagine who would pony up seventy-five hard-earned dollars for it or, really, why followers aren't already fleeing.

    Quoting directly from the announcement:

    "We recently had a chat with Abraham about these upcoming global broadcasts of our live seminars, which will allow people to participate in a live event without actually being in the room. So many people, from so many places around the world, have requested that we travel to their countries so that they can participate with Abraham, and this new Live Stream broadcast answers that request. It will be a great way for people who can't be, or don't want to be, in the seminar room to still participate in the seminar.

    "As Abraham used the word 'participate,' Jerry asked, 'Since the people won't be in the room and won't be raising their hands, and won't be able to sit in the hot seat to ask their question, what does Abraham mean by participate?' Abraham smiled..."

    Now when you consider the unintentional humor of going "live" with a group of "nonphysical teachers" who claim to be "deader than dead," you might overlook the suggestion of having a "chat" with them, but what got me was "Abraham smiled.... Now just exactly how does a nonphysical entity, who Esther Hicks claims gives her "blocks of thought," smile...?

    Nathan, who thinks I'm "close minded" (probably means closed minded) and have a bunch of other deficiencies, commenting below, argues that, if Abraham can convey thought with emotion, then they can convey a smile. Of course, in reality, Esther claims they convey "blocks of thought," not "thoughts with emotion" and a smile is a whole other thing. Nice try, Nathan.

    The word whacky doesn't even cover it.

  • Asked about severely disabled children and how the Law of Attraction would draw painful experiences into a baby's life and that of his or her parents, Abraham claimed these were "old souls"arriving damaged, just for the experience, saying nothing about how struggling parents attracted them.

    An important aspect of their preaching about the law, as explained, is that we are always in control of everything that happens in our lives. A random genetic error, an accident, Is not possible, since each individual creates every aspect of their experience. Esther is sometimes forced to come up with some fairly crackpot and impossible explanations to justify implausible circumstances.

  • In Boulder Colorado in June of 2004, Esther said this: "Every bit of it is about economics. Every bit of it, without exception. Everything about religion is about economics. Everything about politics is about economics. And everything about economics is personal satisfaction. Everyone is personally motivated to do the best that they can possibly do for themselves."

    But in Kansas City in September, same year, she said this: "Your world is pointing toward an insistence on conformity which is causing you enormous grief. It's what's at the heart of all of your religious battles, and religious battles are what are at the heart of all of your battles. In other words, all of your wars and global irritation with one another are over your determination to promote sameness. Your democracy insists that it's the only government that works. And every religion (it's interesting to note) proclaims that it is the only one that works."

    But Esther, didn't you say it was all about economics? Oh, well...

  • Recent books, especially in the series starting with the power of emotions as a subject, are not direct quotes from Abraham. They are rehashed versions of the teachings, stretched out with object lessons about certain situations, much in the style of the earliest Abraham recordings. They are expurgated by Jerry Hicks, according to his own lights, which reduces their credibility for several reasons we can save for another time.

    To get a better perspective on this, try to get your hands on the audio version of these books. At the close of each, they include an Abraham-Hicks live session recording. The difference is dramatic. Moreover, the books are spoken by Jerry, not Esther, who appears only in the introduction. Jerry has never claimed to channel Abraham.

    (Note: It was confirmed for me by a person involved that these later books were a project conceived by the team as a way of repackaging teachings Abraham had already offered. The trouble, of course, is that this makes them someone else's selective interpretation, not the pure, gut stuff we were told came straight from Abraham.)

  • From the simple Law of Attraction teachings, the Abraham-Hicks team has added many complicated procedures and new ideas. Now, instead of "you get what you think about" and "birds of a feather flock together," we have a "vortex"where desired things are held in abeyance. They haven't been delivered because the time is not yet right or, the standing explanation, "you're not letting it in."

    Also, when it was revealed that, contrary to Esther and Jerry Hicks' claims, the "Law of Attraction" did not originate with them, they migrated it to the clunkier term "Vortex of Attraction," which does.

End Of The List For What Esther Hicks Always Gets Wrong

  • The 2012 harmonic convergence predictions. At first, Abraham shrugged these speculations off as useless because, according to the Law of Attraction, we will get what we attract then, and nothing can be predicted in advance. Later, pressured by true believers in their New Age audiences, they fell into the harmonic convergence line and talked about new knowledge and awareness in the world today that would lead to great change in 2012. Popular demand engendered new truths, it seems.

    By the way, none of the big changes ever occurred. Wrong again, Abe.

  • Wisdom, if viable, doesn't need all the marketing and image control used by Abraham-Hicks. It's getting to be as if Jesus were pitching pricey sandals and offering to lead pilgrimages for a fee.

    In a nearly ghoulish twirling of Jerry Hicks cancer into a marketing tool, Abraham Hicks on July 7th, 2011, sent out an email blast with this exact wording:

    "We so much appreciate all the inquiries and love that you have been sending our way and we wanted to give you a quick update.

    "We're going to fly to Del Mar on Monday for the next phase of our rebalancing act in getting Jerry back on his feet and feeling frisky. Every day we're experiencing the relief that we can only receive from Abraham as they remind us about the power of the Vortex. We are enjoying the comfort when we are able to ignore the temporary what-is.

    "Abraham recorded a wonderful segment for Jerry last night guiding him toward complete comfort and ease, and that is exactly what he is focusing on now. We'll continue our city-to-city workshop schedule as posted, which means that we'll be enjoying the company of our friends in San Francisco on Saturday, July 9th. If you'd like to join the generally frisky Frisco workshop group, you can call the office before 4 p.m. CDT on Friday (830-755-2299). The last San Francisco workshop was filled to capacity, so a phone reservation would ensure that we won't run out of chairs."

    They didn't even enter a paragraph break between the news of Abraham recording a segment, whatever that might be, probably a workshop rehearsal tape, for Jerry and the pitch for tickets. This isn't illiterate as much as it is Freudian. "Move over now, Jerry, we've got tickets to sell."

  • In twenty-five years, wouldn't these "eternal beings"with direct access to the "Source," or supreme being, have come up with one original, really useful idea? I'd have been happy with a simple cure for the common cold.

    (Nathan again, commenting below, implies that Abraham did provide a cure for the common cold. Right. My mistake. Here it is: Don't think about colds and you won't get one. How did we all miss that for so long!)

    Abraham has never provided a new idea. Esther and Jerry Hicks just took techniques developed by Seth and Theo, both of whom Jerry and Esther were very familiar with before Abraham arrived, and blended in ideas from the old "New Thought Movement." Abraham's "hot seat" conversations with attendees are entertaining and sometimes enlightening, but they break no new ground.

    I'm not saying they don't occasionally come up with something fantastic, but something useful and objectively observable would be nice. Most of us would love to have what Esther preaches be true. Well, not the animal abuse stuff, but a lot of it.

    How about telling us how radiation or toxins cause cells to become cancerous? Gold star for Esther, if she can peg that one.

  • Abraham's teachings are simple. There has been nothing new in a decade, except for exercises and concepts like "the Vortex."But like a jalopy without brakes, the machine keeps rolling from seminar to seminar as long as cash is available. Is this what one who professes to be as wise and all knowing as Abraham would do? Why not give it away?

    If the Law of Attraction works as Esther Hicks and Abraham have taught, then Esther and Jerry's abundance is assured anyway. So, why keep pumping out new products and cruises when there is nothing more to say?

  • Thudding boredom and marginal literacy have entered the realm of Esther, Jerry and Abraham Hicks.

    It's only fair to assume that an entity with the wisdom and access Esther and Jerry Hicks claim for Abraham would be thrilling to hear from. For many of us, they once were, but here's a recent entry from their Vortex writings:

    "I Can Attract Relationships That Agree with My Desires... People are not finding it difficult to find the mate of their dreams because that person is not out there, but because of their own contradiction to their own desire in the thoughts they offer about the subject every day.

    When you consistently offer thoughts about your future relationship that feel good while you think them, that means you are consistently matching the desires that you have discovered as you have lived life. And under those conditions, only someone in agreement with your desires could come to you. Under those conditions, no need for control is necessary.

    Through each exposure to interacting with others, you launch continuous rockets of desires of what you prefer. And only when you are a Vibrational Match to the culmination of those desires will you allow your rendezvous with someone who matches those intentions that you have gathered along your physical trail."

    --- Abraham

    Excerpted from the book, The Vortex, Where the Law of Attraction Assembles All Cooperative Relationships # 80

    Anyone who can read that through without dozing off has my admiration. Who thought anyone claiming so much wisdom could be such an infinite bore?

  • Abraham Hicks is baffled by String Theory.

    You'd think an entity claiming access to all the wisdom the world has ever known would be able to comment on a popular scientific thread that might bolster some of their claims, but no. According to a recording supplied by a friend who prefers to remain anonymous, Abraham doesn't even know what it is.

    Simply, Superstring (commonly known simply as "string") theory tries to explain some of the peculiarities of quantum physics by proposing extra dimensions and constituents of matter that make the quantum world appear as it does. Abraham, after hearing a man describe himself as a "recovering physicist" and make a simple explanation of what string theory was supposed to do, politely listened as Esther explained that going back in time was a waste, seeming to get string theory as something to do with evolution, which, of course, we already know she hasn't a clue about.

    If Esther Hicks is going to continue faking Abraham, she'd do well to read some newer books and stop looking at herself in the mirror while counting ticket sales.

In Conclusion

If you believe, as I do, that anyone offering guidance from the highest spiritual source ought to be consistent and original, you will find Esther Hicks lacking. If you believe any God worth having would be compassionate, you won't find that in Abraham.

My fifteen reasons are a brief summary. I could easily find a hundred contradictions and errors in fact. If you're looking for a teacher, you can find better. That's a fact.

Faking or Channeling a Real Nonphysical Entity?

Is Esther Hicks faking?

© 2010 David Stone

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      David Stone 27 hours ago from New York City

      Unconvincing, but thanks.

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      David Stone 27 hours ago from New York City

      That he did. It's pretty commonplace now. That's why Amazon indicates whether commenters are verified purchasers.

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      beachdrifter 27 hours ago

      LOA will prove you right no matter what you believe.

      I'm not here to convince anybody of anything, understanding LOA and thus the futility of that, but to leave a note of love for those that are in close enough proximity to it to recognize it.

      Nothing to prove, just love, radiating from a pure heart.

      Demonstrating it. Just being it. That's all that I can do. And it's enough.

      Namaste, my friends. There is only love here for you.

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      James Clinton 31 hours ago from Washington, D.C.

      T Wayne, David,

      I had a feeling that Beach Drifter was a Abraham troll. I remember from David's books and blog postings that Jerry used to send out trolls around the internet looking for negative comments about Abraham and created fake accounts to post responses to negative posts.

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      David Stone 40 hours ago from New York City

      Keep slugging!

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      T Wayne Williams 2 days ago from Young Harris, GA

      Thank you Dave for reassuring me, because like you, I to thought Beach Drifter was a fabrication. And I swear, the word "plant" entered my my mind. It was to polished and smooth to be anything but someone from the Hick's organization. I guess great minds think a like. LOL. I mean you have the "great mind" and I have the straggler mind who wants to be great. I don't mind being the straggler mind. LOL

      Thanks again for your reassurance.

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      David Stone 2 days ago from New York City

      Thanks, Wayne. Pretty sure the guy was plant. Nobody sings praise in such an orchestrated manor, especially that essentially not consistent with the Abraham teachings in the first place. It was a "cover."

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      T Wayne Williams 2 days ago from Young Harris, GA

      Hello Beach drifter:

      I hope your "final expense insurance" covers "suicide by delusion".

      I would like to share two quick "Abraham" tidbits that were shared in a workshop and the other in a book:

      1.) Quoted by Abraham during a workshop I attended: "Now there are some of you who have pinched off your source of well being to the extent to where SOME OF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CROAK IN THIS LIFETIME in order to get these teachings." What Abrascam was trying to tell the audience was that some of us more unfortunate souls are going to have to pull the "Robin Williams" maneuver which is to suicide our way out of this existence because we have reached a point of no return and are beyond help. Great Great Stuff!!!

      2.) Quoted by Abraham in one of the early books. I can find it one day in my collection for verification. From Abrascam: "There comes a point to where your higher self realizes you are not advancing or making further progress towards well being, and so your higher self becomes discouraged and stops offering you positive vibrations, encouragement, and support. From that point, you are pretty much on your own." Of course here we have Abrascam telling us that we will even be abandoned by our Higher Selves and that the higher self can become discouraged like a human friend or counselor and simply give up on you.... Great Great Stuff.

      And of course we have the teachings on all the Earth changes that were supposedly to happen years ago regarding flooding and other catastrophic events which even Ramtha predicted. I mean with both Abraham and Ramtha predicting the same outcomes, how could they be anything but right? LOL

      Like I said Beach Drifter: Better contact your agent and check on that final expense insurance. Your higher self checked out years ago. With your wisdom, who needs to die? You sound like you could simply "ascend to the higher plane" and join your guru. Who the f--- needs to die with such profound wisdom?

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      beachdrifter 3 days ago

      I love the teachings of Abraham so much, it's impossible to put into words. They have been the primary source of external inspiration on my spritual path, transforming me from a self-loathing, deeply depressed person into a bright, energetic individual that wakes up every morning with love in my heart and an eager anticipation of what the new day may bring!

      I'm in love with myself and the world, and everything in it. Seeing the world through the eyes of Source is the most amazing experience there is!

      And I will forever be thankful for Esther and Jerry, and the magnificent job they've done in bringing Abraham right to my doorstep. People talk about "manifestations", but as far as I'm concerned, falling in love with yourself is the biggest gift that anyone could ever help you find. From that stable foundation, there are no limits to how wonderful life can be for you, moment by moment by moment by moment... life becomes a gift that keeps surprising and delighting you, and it's so, so much fun!

      Much love to all my fellow humans that are on their individual paths! Keep searching, and you too will find!

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      James Clinton 3 days ago from Washington, D.C.

      touché T. Wayne

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      T Wayne Williams 4 days ago from Young Harris, GA

      Gary: The only thing "Rapid Fire" that is occurring is your level of ignorance in interpreting the real motivation behind Esther and her puppet "Abraham". I may have it backwards. It may be Abraham and their puppet "Esther". Either way it results in the same useless garbage and draws people like you to defend her and her greed.

      Oh, and in regards to your statement: " If I was faking a channeling experience I wouldn't travel the world spending most of my day answering random questions... that would be terrifying." Yes Hell you would if you were making millions of dollars and could live in a 4 million castle in Utah as Esther recently acquired. You would do this and much more in the way of unscrupulous behavior in defense of your guru.

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      David Stone 4 days ago from New York City

      And I wouldn't run into a pack of NFL linebackers for a million dollars a year. It's a false comparison. People do a lot of amazing things for love of money. It's not like she's the one and only nor the first. Being good at what she does doesn't prove she's genuine or honest, but if it suits you, that's all you need. If it benefits you, enjoy the ride. I've been there. I get it.

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      Gary 6 days ago

      I have found most of the recordings to be inspiring and exciting. If Esther IS faking Abraham why would she invite random people to just get up and ask any question they like. Surely a fake couldn't possibly come up with ALL the fast, rapid fire answers that Esther does, and a lot of them are really sharp and great sounding... If I was faking a channeling experience I wouldn't travel the world spending most of my day answering random questions... that would be terrifying.

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      James Clinton 7 days ago from Washington, D.C.

      T. Wayne,

      you are welcome. keep me abreast and I’ll share with you also. I’ve read both of David’s books about Abraham/Esther/Jerry. Fascinating. He really has done his due diligence in the research, his own experience and finally putting it down in a cohesive manner. He made sense out of nonsense (The Hicks very contrived lives). This is especially true around the very awkward in which they handled Jerry’s death.

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      James Clinton 9 days ago from Washington, D.C.

      if Abraham is ‘infinite intelligence’ as they claim to be, shouldn’t they know everything? Isn’t that what infinite intelligence supposed to be? Similar to a story told about Abraham as ‘infinite intelligence’ not knowing what String theory is. A recent recording of an interaction from the ‘hot seat’ showed Abraham’s lack of infinite intelligence. The person in the hot seat asked Abraham if they were familiar with the Mandella effect. Well. I’ll be honest. I wasn’t familiar with it. But i’m also not infinite intelligence. Abraham said to the hot seater who had asked Abraham if they were aware of it? Abraham’s response was. We don’t know what it is. Please explain it.

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      T Wayne Williams 10 days ago from Young Harris, GA

      To James Clinton: Thank you for your encouraging comments. I wish you success on your writing or video blogging journey.

      To Dave: Thank you for your further clarification regarding the HP community. You will still see me around. And yes I plan on reading your book: Tangled up in Abraham and your other book as well about the Spiritual money tree. Stay warm in the Big Apple.

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      David Stone 10 days ago from New York City

      They do a lot of things, including some edits. They may or may not be helpful, but the problem is that nobody seems to know whatever criteria they are using. They're just not upfront about it. Nonetheless, when you're starting out, HubPages is a good spot because you're surrounded by a helpful community of other writers working to find their voice. So, it's not HP, although it's a useful platform; it's the community. I got spoiled at Squidoo, lots of good friends, all the rules clear and sensible.

      You will outgrow HubPages and eventually find the opacity frustrating, but until you do, you can learn and earn a little cash along the way.

      It's a very good place to start. It's actually where I started before leaving for Squidoo. Then Squidoo folded and HubPages bought all the content. It's the best of what's left.

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      James Clinton 10 days ago from Washington, D.C.

      T wayne,

      What a great story and interesting experience you had. I’m not surprised that her hands were cold and clammy. Everything that i’ve read via Dave’s books and blog suggests that Esther (and Jerry) are cold heartless self absorbed people.

      I admire your desire to write. I am embarking on the same journey. I’ve even thought about doing a video blog about my journey. David is right about not making much money from the ads on the blogs. Don’t rely on the money to pay the bills. It’s pocket change at best.

      i’m working on a spy novel that has a b storyline in which a certain channeler gets exposed for being a fake.

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      T Wayne Williams 11 days ago from Young Harris, GA

      Thank you again Dave. Hopefully I won't bother you further for a while. The first sentence in your comment seems to be cut off after the word "very". You also state "You meaning (me) can live with the lack of transparency". Were you trying to say: "If I can live with the lack of transparency" then I should proceed with Hub pages? Are you saying HP edits and controls some or a lot of what a writer writes? I am just not clear on what you mean by transparency being a serious flaw with HP. Thanks again.

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      David Stone 11 days ago from New York City

      Interesting anecdote, very.

      I don't do anything new here anymore for a couple of reasons. It doesn't do much for veteran writers but it's a good place to start and learn. You can live with the lack of transparency, a really serious flaw with HubPages, when you're climbing the ladder and getting feedback. Later, you'll want something freer and under your control. You might want to try a blog, many of which are free, where you don't have to deal with so many rules that may or may not fit your needs. Blogger is still free, by the way, as are others.

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      T Wayne Williams 12 days ago from Young Harris, GA

      Thanks for your reply Dave. I just remember you saying that all you use Hub Pages for is to reply to comments on long ago articles you posted there, and that the time when Hub Pages was the way to go as a writer was long past gone. So I really never went any further. Not blaming you, just took what you said very serious. Truthfully I have not checked back very often to see if you are posting new articles from time to time. I occasionally get an email from Hub pages notifying me that there were recent comments on your articles. So yes, I will start with my first article soon, I hope.

      I forgot to mention that after the Tampa AH workshop in November 2006, I got to meet the great one "Esther" in person after the workshop. After the workshop, I was in the hotel lobby. And all the pretty women were lined up coming up to me to give me a hug. They all had this gleam in their eyes. Like I said, I was the star attraction of the day. No, unfortunately I did not ask for their phone numbers. After all the hugs, I was sitting alone in the hotel lobby. I could see Esther about 100 foot away sitting at a small table signing books with a long line of women participants standing in line.

      Just before I left I saw Esther strolling through the lobby alone. For some reason she stopped and turned her head and looked right at me sitting in a corner. I guess Abraham nudged her to look my way. LMAO again. She walked right up to me and I stood up to greet her. She extended her hand. It was cold and clammy. LOL. Not kidding. Anyway she chit chatted with me about 5 minutes. Then as I was walking out of the hotel, I saw Jerry Hicks standing in front of a hotel door with a key in hand. He happened to look back and saw me and yelled out: "Thanks for your participation." About 3 hours later on the interstate I got to replaying the way I was treated in the Hot Seat and slammed my fist into dash cracking the console. There have been very few times in my life I have ever felt that kind of rage. And that was the day I walked away: no more books, no more tapes, and certainly no more workshops. But at least you get to know you have met a real life Star of the Abraham Hot Seat experience. I can still see the gleam in those women's eyes as they hugged me.

      In retrospect, I wish I would have reserved my rage for another target besides the poor console on the car.

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      David Stone 12 days ago from New York City

      HubPages is by no means worthless, and plenty of good writers contribute here. So, sorry for any miscommunication. What I probably intended to say was that writing more about Esther and Jerry was useless. All the bases have been touched, and there's nothing more to add.

      HubPages does not end up paying well because there are limitations to what you can earn from online advertising. But it's a good place to start. Squidoo was better, but Squidoo is gone, and that really is just a personal opinion, one not shared by everyone.

      If you want to write, the simple truth is that it starts by taking step one and continuing. Write every day. Some of it will be crap, but it will get better. And remember, the key to good writing is in the rewrite. Get your message out raw, then work to shape it. You'll get better consistently. Count Basie's advice to Tony Bennett holds for writers, too. Get your article to where it's perfect. Then, trim it by 20%. Precision.

      Good luck!

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      David Stone 12 days ago from New York City

      The Vortex got invented about ten years down the road when followers started getting disenchanted when they didn't get their stuff. It was an exit ramp, i.e., your fault for not getting the receiving mode, also invented.

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      T Wayne Williams 13 days ago from Young Harris, GA

      Hey Dave: This is a little off topic. As you know, I have known you since 2011 when I discovered your Abraham scam blogs on Squidoo. Hope I spelled that right. I was happy to find someone like you who to saw through the many lies and contradictions in the "Jerry Hicks" AKA "Abraham" teachings. I had completely immersed myself in the teachings of Abraham in the fall of 2006. I even attended two of their workshops, one in Asheville, NC and the second one in Tampa. In the Tampa workshop I sat gleefully on the front row raising my hand each time Abraham called for a hot seat participant. Man! I must have had my vibration in synch. LMAO. Cause out of over 300 people there, I was called to the Hot Seat in the late afternoon and ended up being the "Star" I mean I sat in the Hot Seat for nearly 25 minutes. It only took me 30 seconds after I asked my question that I knew there was no help to be found and everything that Abraham shared with me left me in rage. I was so angry I cracked the console on my rental car with my fists while driving back to Georgia. I still have the CD and may send it to you one day if you want to hear it.

      Anyway, what I want to say is this: For years I have wanted to start writing, maybe not to the extent that you do. I have been told by many people I have the talent, but I lack the motivation year after year. I don't know where to start. I know I want to write and speak out against the teachings of A Course In Miracles, Hay House, Mary Ann Williamson, Joe Dispenza, and countless others whose teachings I find useless for people who are disturbed and who have serious mental problems, and how dangerous it is to seek help through these types of teachings. I certainly do not want to take on Abraham to the extent that you have. I like you being the Top Dog when it comes to exposing the AH teachings. And I don't mind you howling as loud as you can. LMAO

      I want to create a website but get overwhelmed at all the choices of websites and so I don't even know where to begin. I have a video camera and think I want to start a You Tube channel and create video blogging. But then I never take action. I would like to have a website and a You Tube blog. I am not really drawn to audio and video blogs because they so long to listen to and I get bored with the speaker's personality. I still believe the written word is the most powerful way to convey and idea to other people.

      And then I think that maybe I could start with Hub Pages just to get off the ground. But then I remember you telling me that Hub Pages is basically useless and that you hardly use it anymore except to respond to those who comment on your articles. Do you still feel that way about Hub Pages. Would I be wasting my time to start writing on Hub Pages?

      Can you give me any advice or guidance? I am glad you are still out there hammering away against the late croaked Jerry Hicks and his puppet Abraham who Jerry stills seems to be able to manipulate from beyond the grave.

      Thank you for all you do and don't you go "croaking" anytime soon, do you hear me?

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      James Clinton 13 days ago from Washington, D.C.

      utter bullshit. is a good applied word. Gibberish was what i was thinking at the time, My spouse was listening to a workshop in the car last week. This is irony. Abraham is talking about traditional religions and the evangelicals. Abraham/Esther in a chiding undertone states that the aforementioned religions dont always tell their followers that their rewards don’t come until they die. (Paraphrasing) ‘Oh we didn’t tell you that you don’t get all that you’ve asked (prayed) for until you go to heaven?’. The following is the kicker. A few minutes later in a different interaction with another person in the ‘hot seat’.

      Abraham/Esther is recounting the early days of their intro and much touted vortex. They told their followers that their desires all go into the vortex. But when the followers came to them wanting to know how to get their things out of the vortex. They conveniently said. Oh. We didn’t tell you? You need to be in the receptive mode. Sadly. My spouse - a former evangelical- did not see the similarities in the two remarks and i’m not sure Esther did either. LOL!

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      David Stone 13 days ago from New York City

      Not fiery enough.

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      Mary Helen Irvine 2 weeks ago

      Is she The Wizard of Oz?

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      David Stone 4 weeks ago from New York City

      For want of a better word, gibberish will do, although it's probably more deliberate than that implies.

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      James Clinton 4 weeks ago from Washington, D.C.

      I assume you mean the gift of gibberish?

      LOL!

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      David Stone 4 weeks ago from New York City

      She does have that "gift."

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      James Clinton 4 weeks ago from Washington, D.C.

      I've always known something about myself. But I really have come to the complete realization and being honest with myself. I only have faith in things ('manifestations') that I CAN smell, taste, touch and see.

      Abraham/Esther and most religions tell their followers to have faith in things they cannot see, smell, taste, touch, etc. Abraham/Esther tells her followers to have 'faith' in a 'vortex' full of things they have put in their respective vortexes over 20, 30, . . . . lifetimes but they have to get into the 'receptive mode' for these manifestations to become seeable . . . . . . Yesterday. My spouse was listening to a an interaction at a recent workshop. Esther's response to this individual was such gibberish that by the time she was finished, my brain was hurting.

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      David Stone 6 weeks ago from New York City

      Was worse when she first started. She used a metallic man voice with something like a British accent. Hard to square that with "interpreting blocks of thought." It was more like fake channeling.

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      James Clinton 6 weeks ago from Washington, D.C.

      Esther’s voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

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      David Stone 7 weeks ago from New York City

      Interesting insight. She and Jerry always talked about their cars and houses. Even in one of the early emergence of Amazon fables, Jerry had to mention that he was driving a Cadillac.

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      James Clinton 7 weeks ago from Washington, D.C.

      David, you are better off not being exposed to any of Esther’s non-sensical crap. It really is completely illogical and contradictory, as mentioned previously, the size of an olympic stadium. My new favorite is ‘getting ready to be ready to be ready to be ready . . .

      She repeats this so often in an interaction so as to not really have to fill in real sound advice. She keeps telling the same old stories plus one or two new ones, all opportunities to brag about how much money or things Esther has. She still drags out the blue glass/butterflies/feather story. The newest one that she tells often involves her home in San Diego. She ‘suddenly’ discovers that it has a music system that is piped through out the whole house(?). She wants to move furniture around so she hires two young men to come move the furniture. There’s more to this ridiculous story as she uses it as a LoA example. She always seems to find a way to use Esther’s money in a story.

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      James Clinton 7 weeks ago from Washington, D.C.

      Nat, thank you for the well wishes. Same to David. David, I hope he does finally see the light. Fortunately he’s not spent too much money enriching Esther any more than others so that she can buy another house somewhere (referencing Wayne’s posting below). I know others spend money they don’t have on Abraham crap. Esther really is no different than a televangelist like Joel Osteen. It saddens me when smart people such as my spouse falls for this crap. I found Sheila Gillette on youtube. I find her/Theo a little more compelling as a channel but i also see how Esther stole Sheila’s style and even some of the words. It’s despicable.

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      David Stone 7 weeks ago from New York City

      I've had several pleasant stops at the Roscoe Diner, the ideal spot of a break on the most picturesque drive between NYC and Binghamton. Hang in there, Wayne. I barely pay attention to Esther, these days, only when others comment or ask a question.

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      T Wayne Williams 8 weeks ago from Young Harris, GA

      Hey Dave: Just passing by and thought I would say hi. Glad to know you are still exposing the Abrascamsters. Hey, I heard a few days ago that Esther bought "Wardley Castle" which I believe is in Utah. It was valued at 4 million dollars. The sad part about all this is that Esther is getting more and more rich and is more popular than ever. I no longer believe in Ethical Justice or that there is any source that has any concern for the pain to others that Abraham and others like them cause to those needing answers. I cannot even pay my bills and live in constant depression these days, far worse than when you knew me in 2011. In the meantime, Esther is going just fine and thriving. I don't know what to believe any more. I will never forget you. I still plan on posting my story about my visit to Binghampton, NY back in 1988. Have you ever heard of the Roscoe Diner in Roscoe, NY? I think you will love it. The name of the post I think will be:

      "Twenty four hours in Binghampton NY Done in Rageful Florida Cracker Style."

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      David Stone 8 weeks ago from New York City

      Back atcha, Nat!

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      Nat Carey 8 weeks ago

      Hi James, I do feel you and I hope your partner is able to see it eventually. And David, I am so glad you came out of your Abra-haze too. We are lucky. All the best, and happy holidays to you both.

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      David Stone 8 weeks ago from New York City

      Figure out what's missing, what gap he's trying to fill. He has enough intuition and experience to know all these things in his own mind. He needs to trust himself so that he doesn't have to lean so heavily on others.

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      James Clinton 2 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      yes. i’ve heard about sheila gillette. i’ll check it out. yes. he does lean on these ‘teachers’ too much.

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      David Stone 2 months ago from New York City

      You are dealing with a cult. Let me tell you what worked with me, although I was never as deep in as your spouse. Someone who had already gotten out contacted me and gently, not a confrontation, suggested I consider this, then this, and she let me figure it out for myself. Your guy seems to need something big to lean on. Can't let go because he has nothing to fall back on. I'd try a positive approach. Like that's all great, but have you thought about this. Shiela Gillette may be a place to start. Esther modeled herself after Shiela, but Shiela has none of the downside. She's not greedy and she's consistent. Your spouse is not going to suddenly see the light unless he finds something else to lean on. There are better choices that can help ease him closer to reality.

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      James Clinton 2 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Nat,

      Spot on. I wish I could get my spouse to see it. He’s in so deep. I feel like i’m dealing with someone in a cult. It’s ironic that he doesn’t see the contradictions. He got out of born again christianity when he saw the contradictions in it. When he’s not feeling well physically, he gets mad at himself and screams that he’s not able to ‘go down stream’ with his feelings in order feel better physically. I’ve quit trying to point out the whole crap they tried to peddle about Jerry’s cancer and eventual passing (or croaking).

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      David Stone 2 months ago from New York City

      I can't agree with you more, and I'm happy for you. A stranger also reached out to me and helped me get my head back in order -- or, out of the coma as you would say.

      Great success story. Thanks.

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      Nat Carey 2 months ago

      Many years ago I was fully in an Abra-Coma and all I can say is that I am thankful I came out of it.

      I had an entire youtube channel and blog dedicated to the Teachings Of Abraham. However, I think, even though I didn't realise it at the time, part of me was starting to wake up. My life was actually going stagnant because all my time was spent 'getting into alignment, getting into the vortex!' I was manic 'fake happy' and quite frankly, an insensitive ass to other people.

      It was only when a man from Germany wrote to me and challenged me to face the contradictions of Abraham that I woke up! I threw out every book I had on Abraham. I shut down the blog and the you tube channel. My friend, who I still keep in touch with 7 years later, made me see that Esther is a charlatan who takes money from people and spreads psychic germs.

      While I will always stand by there is great benefit in maintaining a positive outlook, and that there is truth that our mood or vibration can influence our life experience, there is just too much that loa doesn't explain and too many contradictions in Abrahams teachings.

      Whats also alarming, is that some people use these teachings to justify being a shitty human being. I was in the vortex! It feels good to me! You attracted this side of me!!!

      For me, working on my inner dialogue and practicing meditation is what improved my life. Most real spiritual teachers do not charge money for their teachings, they live from donations only.

      Esther makes money from people who are desperate to create a better life and its actually really sad.

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      David Stone 2 months ago from New York City

      Good points, James. Human nature includes a predilection toward some sort of unifying spirituality, formal or informal. The concepts used by New Agers like A-H are Christian-like in their puritanism disguised as idealism. It's a grab for elitism and special recognition. Heretics are scorned and ridiculed. Your observations are right on. Esther Hicks has nothing unique to offer but the promise of getting something for nothing, satisfaction with insight. I could go on...

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      James Clinton 2 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I"m with Angela. It's complete babble. It's little quotes that can be used by her followers as affirmations. My spouse has them up all over the house. It's irritating as hell. David has mentioned on a number of occasions in his books and on the blog postings the incidents in which Esther as Abraham has brow beat (my word, not his) or shame (my word not his) someone in the hot seat. I put this out to the group here, David in particular. Using Abraham's words as if Esther were right in front of me. Abraham used to claim that Jesus was part of the Abraham soup. That Abraham is source. That we all have 'source'/inner being'. That inner being allegedly loves us unconditionally. I apologize on the outset if this seems confusing. I find it all very confusing and very contradictory. It's so confusing and contradictory that using logic to try to understand it is making my head hurt LOL! But I'm going to try. Anyway. I've heard and witnessed Abraham (Esther) be quite abusive to someone in the hot seat. Now. Would Jesus (again. Abraham claims that he's part of the Abraham soup) be abusive like this? Furthermore. If we has 'physical' beings drop all resistance, which according to my husband includes being abusive and judgmental - when we 'transition' into 'non-physical'. We are all pure love and positivity when we pass into 'non-physical'. So. If Abraham is non-physical, why is does this allegedly pure positive, unconditionally loving non-physical being get abusive and judgmental and use law of attraction to shame someone in the hot seat or those in the audience, her followers? Using LoA as a shaming device is no different than an evangelical christian using 'sin' to shame. Therefore. How is following Abraham any different than being a christian?

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      David Stone 2 months ago from New York City

      In total, it is that, exactly. Believers pick and chose what they want to hear. Maybe there's a need to belong and a wish to do it in a different way. Can't really explain, but thanks for saying it so simply!

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      angela 2 months ago

      I do not understand one thing the Hicks say. It sounds like a bunch of babble.

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      James Clinton 3 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      i thought it was also the discovery of all embezzling.

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      David Stone 3 months ago from New York City

      Without the sex scandal. That's what got the Bakers, not the mumbo jumbo.

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      James Clinton 3 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      that’s what i’ve been wondering also. the money and her narcissism. she’s no different than jim and tammy baker. her followers are the same kind of gullible people, including my spouse.

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      David Stone 3 months ago from New York City

      Enough contradictions to fill an Olympic stadium. The answer to your question is two-fold. She likes the money and is a narcissist addicted to the attention. As long as the crowds show up, she'll dishing.

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      James Clinton 3 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I wonder. If words don’t teach (they do), why does Esther (Abraham) fill up multiple books and seminars full of words?

      Most of what is said is pure gibberish nonsense, especially in the books.

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      David Stone 3 months ago from New York City

      More power to you. If you've never "paid one cent for any of it," all that shows is that you've been limited to edited infomercials.

      "Hmmmmm...I am wondering why someone goes to such great length to against a person who inspires, uplifts and helps people as people continuously have said."

      Answer: that's what writers do, research, ask questions, report. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

      This comment is so like dozens of others before it, it suggests a fake identity cooked up to pitch for the business. Not sure if it is, but it does smell like it.

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      RosePetal007 3 months ago

      Hmmmmm...I am wondering why someone goes to such great length to against a person who inspires, uplifts and helps people as people continuously have said.

      Esther/Abe have helped me tremendously during very hard times in my life with all areas of my life health, love, work, etc.

      And I have not paid one cent for any of it. They make their materials available for free and frankly why shouldn't they charge for adding value to people's lives; I would gladly pay to Esther speak too. How is it that dontating money to religious organizations even if they don't help is not frowned upon I wonder. Frankly everyone has a right to their opinion and your opinion is yours and thousands others who continue to benefit from Esther's teachings, it is theirs; she is not responsible for Jerry's vibration. Everything she talks about resonates; I have gotten through some insanely complex, rough times because of her and I am infinitely grateful for it as others have indicated here and there is nothing and noone who can belittle the positive impact she has had on my life. I hope she makes more money doing doing what she is doing; she deserves every peeny of it and I wish her all the success, health and long life in the world; she is one of my angels and I hope everyone discovers what she teaches; it's splendid, wonderful and works.

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      James Clinton 3 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Oh yea. I’m familiar with the other stories. As four questions from the hot seat - right in a row - were related to meditation- the spelling with the nose story was told and told differently.

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      David Stone 3 months ago from New York City

      Yeah, it just gets lost, these day. True believers don't care. There is yet another story, two really. The first is Abraham popping up the first time on a dangerously crowded interstate and telling Jerry to "take the next exit" where they have their first Q&A. The third tale has Esther's fist suddenly pounding her chest in bed one night, then being led to the typewriter where her fingers are forced to type out the message "We are going to write a book together." That's how she explained writing "Ask and It Is Given." Trouble was, they'd already written to Abraham books before that, because they were independently published and didn't sell well, they probably thought people would not discover.

      Many, many contradictions... you'd think the act would have worn out by now.

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      David Stone 3 months ago from New York City

      That trend's been coming for a long time. It's a shame so much has been lost. I have some very old recordings from Hay House podcasts, and you could just see where it went off the rails after 9/11 which she flubbed explaining because it was over her head. Then, when Jerry died, it got worst. The compromises he got her to make faded and all that was left were echoes of the past and unconvincing echoes at that.

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      James Clinton 3 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      One more point to my experience in Asheville this weekend. The story about the way in which Abraham introduced them/itself to Esther. Previous accounts have Jerry realizing that Abraham was using Esther’s nose to not only spell the alphabet but also introduce Abraham to them. Now. Esther is ‘aware’ enough to realize that she is doing the alphabet with her nose and that Abraham is introducing themselves through her.

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      James Clinton 3 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      Went to the Asheville seminar. I am more convinced than ever that Abraham is no longer there and that this is about Esther now. She shamed one woman about going to a therapist after she divorced her husband. Most of the people who were called to the hot seat were either regulars who attend the seminars or as I suspect, plants. I so wanted to be called up to the hot seat to throw her a curve ball. It’s as if the questions being asked are too easy and too planned. The answers are too pat. There seems to be more shaming than in previous years. It seems to be getting worse.

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      David Stone 3 months ago from New York City

      Yeah, there is a tendency to blame the victim, which shows that Esther is at the wheel and doesn't understand. After a while, I was able to tell when Abraham was present (decreasingly) and when Esther was scrambling to repeat what she'd heard in the past.

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      James Clinton 3 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I'm with Toula on most of everything. However. I've noticed that when I listen to Abraham (I really think it's just Esther) carefully. I've concluded that she uses LoA as a shaming device. Basically it's your fault for attracting bad stuff to you and shame on you. I had enough shaming in christianity - ergo why I left at a young age. A spiritual teacher should not be shaming you.

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      David Stone 3 months ago from New York City

      I published a whole book on it last year: "Tangled Up in Abraham Hicks" It's on Kindle and paperback, if you'd like to dig deeper.

      Thanks, and good luck. There is undoubtedly "something" to LOA, but Esther has told the story so many different, conflicting ways, you wonder if she ever remembers anymore.

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      Toula 3 months ago

      Wow! Thankyou for this blog!

      I recently got into LoA. I always loved the concept even when I didnt know it had a name. The Secret destroyed it for me, and recently I got into it again thanks to very lovely and uplifting youtube videos from various people. I got the Esther Hicks book (law of attraction) and read a bit. Because Im superlazy I decided to listen to Ester Hicks youtube videos instead :). I found it very offputting. First of all I didnt find her empathic at all and she didnt sound nice. I could hear how insecure the people in the audience where when I listened to their voice. I couldnt believe a guide would talk like that to people (assuming it was Abraham who talked and not Esther herself). Not only that was offputting but alot of things she said didnt resonate at all with me and my beliefs.

      I can type everything out but I think you know what I mean :).

      I couldnt find any skeptic video on youtube and decided to google instead. I found this blog among others and wow! Im so glad Ive read it!

      I still love the concept of LoA and that a positive mindset and vibration is the key to a loving life.

      But attracting unrealistic things, curing cancer, and the whole cult like vibe...

      Its too bad how people can make such a beautiful thing into a money making machine.

      But thanks for the message! It was very refreshing to read those details from someone who put time into it. I got into the Hicks stuff for a weeks and couldnt know this all.

      I will still apply the LoA to some extent but I want to focus more on being balanced: being as positive as I can be, being kind to other but having negative thoughts evey now and then because that feels good too!

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      David Stone 4 months ago from New York City

      First, Esther is not Jesus.

      Second, read the article. you'll find plenty that is far from "life affirming advice," but in the words of Paul Simon, "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

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      Frank 4 months ago

      I think if you want to demonize any source it is relatively easy - if you want to. Even Jesus Christ get's misinterpreted and demonized.

      For demonizers, I watch for fallacies of reason, and for legitimacy of source material from Spirit, I look for positive, life affirming information. Mankind has also horribly misinterpreted God. God is love. Love is life affirming. Any source with undue negativity, vindictiveness, or lacking compassion doesn't pass muster. On the other hand, From years of listening to The Teachings of Abraham, all I've heard were positive life affirming advice on how to feel good, connect with one's inner Spirit and co-create a positive future.

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      Jacqui 6 months ago

      I've been listening to Abraham-Hicks for a few months and found it inspiring because it is great on the high-flying disc where you are supposed to have access to what's in your vortex. However, I don't understand how so many people living the life with all the material things most of us desire don't appear to be on the high-flying disc. Some of them are down-right mean, miserable and arrogant.

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      David Stone 11 months ago from New York City

      You are in rough shape, kiddo. Get help. This rant in no way reflects the teachings of Abraham.

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      James Clinton 11 months ago from Washington, D.C.

      I'm so glad I found this blog. To Gaile Gamble who posted about Abraham/Esther's response to the election.

      a big THANK YOU! OMFG. I also started putting two and two together and got red states. I had recently heard via my husband (more on this later in my comment) that Abraham/Esther feels that some of the republican's financial policies are helpful. WTF? History has shown us that all republican economic policies are a disaster and it has taken a Democrat to clean them up.

      I started listening to AH back in June. Initially I bought the whole thing hook, line and sinker. My husband certainly has. I'm very much a critical thinker and am very analytical. So. I'm not buying it anymore. Just like I never fell for the religion/christianity crap. I've analyzed the teachings, words, meditations, etc.

      Something started to not ring true about all of this.

      It's the financial crap that she says. of course she can say the things she says about making money. Jerry was loaded already from being a financial advisor. But the thing that made me start to wonder if this was all a ruse was finding out that Jerry spent time in the circus. Hmm! I started to wonder if this was all just a parlor trick/circus act, just like mediums.

      I'm going to a AH workshop in April. I would love to figure out a way to trip her up and expose her. My husband is in this deep. While we haven't spent a great deal of money on the recordings or books (everything is on Youtube), i'm a little concerned that he's going to want to start going to all the seminars. He's spoken of such. I inherited some money from my mother that i'm trying to save it.

      It was also the relationship mediation that made me start to wonder about this. The meditation says that if you look for characteristics that aren't there, they will show up 'it is law'. I was looking for such in my husband , since June last year. No such characteristics have shown up. I've also noticed some contraindicative behavior in him that dont gel with the teachings. He has the tendency to fall for this crap. He was a big follower of Bashar and then Kryon, etc. I want my old husband back. I really think he doesn't see the cult nature of all of this.

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      David Stone 13 months ago from New York City

      Party on, Ted. You seem to be having a lot of fun.

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      Ted 13 months ago

      Science has proven telepathy is real. Abraham is subject to the errors all humans can make because according to Abraham they are a collection of people that lived before us. True / False? OK... Are all messages from others always accurate? So, be responcible for what you think and believe. If you like it.... Great! If you don't... Stay away. It seems to me life is like a self fulfilling prophecy.... What you believe about yourself becomes your personal truth . Not always.... And not always right away no matter how quickly we want it manifested. However, sometimes things, events, or people come into our lives at the right time. Is Abrahams teachings the right path for you? Only you know the answer to that. I also think certain people have abilities others don't have. So... Be vigilant in who you listen to because it can have good or bad consequences... Just like anybody else you listen too. I happen to like Abraham for the clarity it gives me as I explore how to best manage my life.

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      David Stone 14 months ago from New York City

      Sorry, Lily. I have no control over the ads. That's HubPages doing their thing and is one of the reasons I don't create new content here anymore.

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      David Stone 14 months ago from New York City

      I couldn't agree with you more.

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      Lily 14 months ago

      How about letting me read the article for more than 2 seconds before your extremely ANNOYING "Rate this article" popup covers it and doesn't allow me to see the whole thing!! IDIOTS! I give YOU a rating of -1,000!

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      Gaile Gamble 14 months ago

      Steve Grandinetti hit the nail on the head for me. I have been following Abraham-Hicks regularly for about ten years and attended one workshop a couple of years ago. I had felt that much of it made sense UNTIL the recent UTube presentation where Abraham is asked about the election. Instantly I felt that infinite wisdom would not have responded with the nonsensical answer that it didn't matter either way, that neither candidate would have any effect on our lives, and that it was the "best election ever". I know Esther and Jerry had lived in red states for years and it occurred to me that she might be projecting her philosophy. Whatever the case, I'm finished. I'll go back to my affirmations from The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peale, which I used for years and felt much better: "I know I am always guided, directed and protected by a Divine Power. I know I will always take the right turn in the road. And I know that God will always make a way where there is no way. "

      My life was going very well during that time. And I didn't constantly feel like a failure because I hadn't created the fortune I desired. I got jobs, traveled, "accidentally" found my perfect partner (and I wasn't even looking for anyone at the time). And we are still together 44 yrs. later. And we both agree that this has been the most terrifying election we have ever experienced!!! One could say perhaps Abraham needs more information about politics in the USA, as well as the candidates and their respectivc parties. Or one could just recognize that the repetitious and insulting answers are definitely not coming from "infinite wisdom". That makes more sense to me.

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      David Stone 14 months ago from New York City

      I hope you bounce back quickly.

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      Daniel 14 months ago

      I used to listen to Abraham on youtube everyday, now I wish I had not, it took me several month to undo the damages, this lady is so self obsessed and stupidly insist that you go sit at home and just listen to her Vortex bullshit and miraculously you get what you want... It completely ruined my life, I lost my job, I ran out of cash, could not find a job for almost a year and bank wants to take over my house, every disaster you could imagine came into my life. Abraham Hicks is so full of shit... and her opinions are far from truth in any sense!

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      David Stone 15 months ago from New York City

      I understand.

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      Steve Grandinetti 15 months ago

      So happy to have found this page. I so agree that love, compassion are the highest wisdom. Unfortunately it seems as we try to find alternatives to the ol' time religions we keep getting caught in the same web of manipulative people using previous ideas to make themselves a fortune, while sincere people looking for answers fall for the bs. All I know is that every time I watch Esther Hicks something feels off and my intuition tells me there is something very off. That is how I found this page, because I knew I wasn't the only one who sees through the facade. And while she, ooops "they" are now telling us that this election has no effect on our lives, which fits into this cold uncaring attitude, I cannot watch anymore.

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      David Stone 15 months ago from New York City

      Too deep for me,

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      n/a 15 months ago

      Abraham is amazing?

      your a joke.

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      David Stone 16 months ago from New York City

      That's not accurate. Many people feel regret over leaving loved ones who depended on them behind. It's a mixed blessing. Yes, they usually, although far from always, say that the afterlife is filled with joy. That's different from saying they were delighted to leave children, beloved pets and other loved ones behind. What sort of spirit would be that self-absorbed? Other than Esther, I mean.

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      nik 17 months ago

      Anyone who as claimed to have a near death experience say that all they felt was love, a love so deep that it was hard to put in words. I read up until you wrote that, then I rolled my eyes and thought to myself....negative nancy!

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      daniel 17 months ago

      Abraham hicks, is a thief, a scam! I have used the "law of attraction" for ages. And I can tell that all she says, are copy pastes from great authors such as "William Walker Atkinson", "Maxwell Maltz" and "Neville Goddard" some of these Authors wrote their books a century ago... she claim to have the power of channeling and impersonate herself as infinite intelligence, while most of the time when she is asked questions, her replies are just bullshit!

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      sophia11 17 months ago

      I could be commenting on an old post here - Channeling is tricky business - You must research the information given. Entities that come through channelers could be of lower vibration often give; feel good, vague and repetitive recycled, re-phrased information - they are often funny. They give off the 'fun' vibe - full of humour, loaded with analogies. If you get this from any channeled entity KNOW they are from a lower vibration realm/state. Channelers are often deceived by these entities themselves and may not know it. at some stage things should present themselves weird, strange or just don't add up - some channelers may overlook these events and continue for what ever reason. (they should not, unfortunately some continue). How do you know if the entities coming through is high vibration? The Channeler themselves must be live a life reflective of the teaching. You already know (inner knowing) what love and its qualities look and feel like - your knowing must resonate the information channeled. Information must be clear and concise - in cases where certain information could not be given (usually due to timing) the entities will simply let you know - "that information cannot be given at this time" Lower vibrational entities will answer anything, but will beat around the bush with long explanations and never really answer your question. Why beat around the bush? 1. they're having fun wasting you time and they find the look on your faces irresistible. 2. they don't have authority to give certain information. You should know LOA is not a big deal - all it does it makes you super aware of whatever you're focus on and you will always see it - NEVER own it. I hope this help some of you seeking the truth. If its wealth you're seeking - remember the physical law as well. Just because something is speaking through someone does NOT mean they are of higher anything nor do they have to speak hate to be of lower anything. Deception come in many tones.

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      David Stone 19 months ago from New York City

      Yes, Esther Hicks offering insight into the Biblical history and bending it to fit her pitch is close to hilarious from a distance. Up close, it's depressing. I've seen worse from her, but this is a good example.

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      Terry 19 months ago

      I was getting hooked on these free lessons, until one comment from Abraham brought me back to my senses.

      Someone in the audience had wanted to know about the crucifixion of Jesus. Abraham/Esther's response was that Jesus had many lessons to teach us, but that he "Dropped the Ball" when he got out of the vortex, and this resulted in the crucifixion.

      Comments please.

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      Maureen 20 months ago

      I've been a listener and reader of Abraham Hicks a couple of different times over the years, in addition to many other people and their teachings.

      I also read "The Secret" when it first came out. I was left feeling awful after reading it, as though all that mattered in this world were material items and cash. I also came away with this terrible feeling that this book could do more harm than good with people engaging in a lot of self-loathing over their lives and inability to materialize outrageous wealth. I quickly followed reading "The Secret" with another book called "Beyond The Secret" by Lisa Love, which made me feel better.

      Over the years, I have taken all of that information and processed it, along with other teachings, my own life experiences, and the observations I make of others. And giving something another listen after you've grown and changed can make a difference, too.

      Essentially, what I get now from the teachings of Abraham is, we have to be aligned within ourselves (with the Source, God, or whatever name you like), because in this alignment, we have access to inspiration and guidance for our actions.

      In this alignment, we feel good. In this alignment, we stop looking outside, even to Abraham or any other teachers. We use that internal feeling guidance to assess what is before us and 3what we should do next.

      As for empathy, certain responses Abraham has given seem to lack empathy. But, I get the underlying message. The message is, we cannot align another or manage their alignment for them. If they are suffering, we can encourage them/remind them of their alignment. But really, that is all.

      This is perhaps a different take on not being able to change another person, only yourself.

      I did not see the session about the mother of the child who kicked the cat. I struggle to understand why the mother is even asking the question. Get the animal away from that gawddamn kid. We can preserve our children's connections without letting them run roughshod over other people and animals.

      As for suffering, I think we are coming to a clearer understanding of how we bring it to ourselves. Look at currently accepted wisdom that stress indeed is the precursor to disease. Many people don't want to believe this because they don't want to change their own lives.

      Further, this was not conventional wisdom not all that long ago.

      Talk about being simplistic: It is much easier to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your crummy life, blame other people, and be a victim than it is to take responsibility and get yourself aligned by understanding the power of positive emotion, energy, and your own innate power.

      Abraham Hicks didn't say it was easy. And it's not. Abraham Hicks said you have to get yourself right if you want your world to go right. Essentially, your life is going to go a lot better if you emit loving, happy, positively expectant vibes than unhappy, miserable, and a complete blindness to the ability to change vibes.

      It's really about changing a set point. That's why it's so hard at first. It's changing habits of thought and feeling.

      It is when people start the progress and a mansion fails to fall out of the sky within a week that gets them. That's their own deal. No one said that will happen.

      Abraham Hicks even says, don't expect everything you want instantly. Expect it incrementally. She also says in the beginning, expect only to feel good. And, honestly, in many people's lives, getting there is miraculous, as steeped in blame, victimhood, and negativity as we are.

      Abraham Hicks cannot make anything happen for anyone. It's guidance. That is all. As for contradictions, there are many facets to every issue. In this case this, in that case that. Even aside from Abraham Hicks, the same issue in a different situation may require a different approach, one that seems contradictory to a previous situation.

      Also, I often think it's funny how many people dismiss such messages like Abraham's so utterly, but believe without question, the veracity of modern medicine. For example, there is no test to objectively diagnose depression or bipolar disorder, to name two. But we accept those diagnoses as real, then take medicine that experts currently have no understanding for exactly how it works. But, down the hatch it goes, and to an alarming degree in the U.S.

      Additionally, medical research is rife with financial conflict, if you want to discuss conflict. Funders for many studies are companies/organizations who have interests in those studies producing certain results. Moreover, the FDA has palms that need to be greased to get those approvals through.

      As for people using the teachings of Abraham to commit treachery unto others, like the husband leaving the wife and two small children for someone else because he feels more "aligned". Maybe he does. Maybe it's an excuse for an affair. But either way, he is doing that, not Abraham.

      Finally, we have to arrive at our own answers. As to the goal of happiness, first we have to be willing to give up unhappiness. That may mean giving up whole identities we've built up around being victims of something negative. Look for examples of people who've overcome some horrendous suffering by learning to gain dominion over the negative thoughts and feelings. It's not easy, but if you listen to one of these people speak, you see how they replaced the negativity with positivity. That is, in essence, what Abraham teaches. Esther Hicks makes money from it. So what?

      There is plenty on youtube free of charge for people, so the teachings can be accessed for nothing at all. I bought one of their books for my Kindle for under $8.00.

      All of these high profile people attract people who become mindless cult types. That is them. I see nothing in the many, many videos I've watched to indicate mind control. There are people in this world who will pick up and become devotees to anything. Take the current craze in adult coloring. So many getting on the bandwagon. It just appears stupid to me. But then, I never stopped coloring, so I guess my life simply syncs with the trend. Anyway, people wear this stuff, any stuff, not just spirituality or Abraham, but even loving bacon, like a cloak. See me? I'm joining with what's popular. I;m hip. That's why we, as humans, serve advertisers so well.

      So being who we are, being able to listen and agree or disagree based on what we feel about it inside, is the key. Not what other people have to say or how popular it is, but how it hits us.

      Finally, I love forums like these because they're about ideas, critical thinking, and deciding what's right for your life--what resonates as truth for you. We all know the feeling, that panging intuition that is the best bullshit detector I know. If it's telling you that Abraham is not truth at all for you, then go with that. If it tells me that the teachings of Abraham are truth for you, then go with that. I can leave you to your truth and live my own, respectfully.

      Your forum here allows people to bounce their beliefs off others. No one should ever shut down, listen or read only one person, get defensive, or call someone stupid for believing or not believing their premises. Well, pretty much as Abraham say, it is the contrast that helps us grow.

      In the interest of complete disclosure, I have a personal development website called youincredibleyou.com. It contains blogs about my own experiences, my own truth--the only one I have--techniques I've used to help me feel better, and a daily message I send out to subscribers, free of charge.

      I encourage the exposure to many teaching and especially to those that vehemently disagree with what you hold as truth. You have to sift, sort, and make it your own....or not. But standing in the midst of utter disagreement helps that process along.

      Thank you.

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      Deesdeeds 21 months ago

      I respect your opinion here.

      I must say that I have applied the teachings for Abraham to my life and the results have been amazing.

      In reference to Jerry's cancer treatment, although Esther is the channeller of Abraham it does not mean that she or Jerry would not react to life contrast as any regular human would and select cancer treatment as the option of least resistance.

      I believe they have provided value to many people's lives and that is what truly matters.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      An interesting summary of your experience. Thank you, Danielle.

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      Danielle 2 years ago

      I came into listening to "Abraham"/Jerry/Esther Hicks in the past several weeks after it being suggested I give it a listen. I was even forwarned that it would be "a little off-kilter"but the bulkof what they say is good information. I won't lie, many of the talks I listened to on YouTube were funny, but I found it very difficult to keep up with Abraham's rants, intended to "inspire" you, as he/she rambled them off SO quickly.

      After listening to several of these 15min quips, I decided to download the "The Law of Attraction" audiobook. I mean, hell, Oprah did the satellite radio interview for 2 shows....so why not. Today, I turned it on in my headphones, and to my surprise, its from 1989. Ok...well, lets kee going...then I realized, the story is VERBATIM of what she told to Oprah. Like, script exact. Ok, wait. Let's be fair, lot's of celebrities use scripts to answer questions in interviews so as to not be blind-sighted...BUT, here's what got me and INSTANTLY made me skeptical. In all the recent recordings, and in Oprah's interview Esther and Abraham sound one-and-the-same, the only difference being Abraham speaking a little faster and with a little more ego. Now, if you listen to that 1989 recording...Abrahama has a VERY distinctive accent. VERY clear. I thought, meh anomaly. Maybe she hadnt learned to control him so easily an speak in her voice, her accent and not his...nope. I found other recordings, and in several there is an accent, but its inconsistent every time and eventually, there is no accent at all. Now, answer me that one....

      Regardless, she and Jerry dida brilliant job marketing The Law of Attraction and getting that knowledge out to the public. And maybe Esther did have a connection at one point, and lost it. Real psychics will tell you, and mediums as well, that it's not like a machine.They cant just "turn it on". Information comes when it comes. Sometimes when someone is there with them, sometimes not. sometimes they have to reach out and contact them, like an answering machine asking them to get back to them. But, the accent thing really turned me off and made it feel like it was all a performance, a holier-than-thou performance.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Feel free to quote at will. Good luck with your blog.

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      Kate North 2 years ago

      Hello David, is there a way I can get in touch with you? My email is k.north411@gmail.com and my new blog is responsiblespirituality.wordpress.com (feel free to remove that from this comment). I would like to join the bloggers who are looking critically at Abraham-Hicks, and occasionally I might like to quote your words and link to your articles if this would be OK. My perspective may be a bit different from yours, but we both stand for critical thinking.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      It puzzles me that she still sells, although much less than before.

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      Awake 2 years ago

      Esther continuously contradicts herself. I suppose that's why she enjoys using that word to favor her agenda.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      Doyle, you make the common error of personalizing your criticism. You insight into "which type of person" I am is meaningless when, as is true with virtually every A-H defender who comments here, you cite not one example to back up your claim that I take what Esther Hicks has preached "wildly out of context." You didn't because you can't. I've quoted directly from the list of quotes Abraham Hicks Publications distributes in email blast daily. Are they out of context too.

      Your trouble, I sense, is that posing what Esther pitches against reality makes her look shallow, cold and thuddingly dull. Rather than make your case, you claim "out of context" and condemn the messenger. It's an old story, tried a hundred times in the years I've been writing about this cult.

      Let me give you and example of the duplicity. Jerry Hicks died in November, 2011, after a year long battle with leukemia. His experience puts the lie to a core "teaching" from the alleged spirit guides "Abraham." How does Esther Hicks and her team deal with the contradiction? Just as they did when Jerry's promise to bounce right back to his old self, following Abraham's guidance, failed. They are in denial. If you take the time to check the bios on their website, they claim Jerry is still alive, more than three years after his death, with more bounce in his step than men half his age. Really? The site also claims he and Esther are still free spirits driving around the country in their "monster bus." Time to renew Jerry's driver's license, maybe.

      Finally, you claim that Esther teaches "that all modalities can be useful if they raise our vibration/energy..." First, she says no such thing about energy. You made that up to fit your argument. As far as "our vibration" goes, I'm still waiting for anyone to define what that is. I realize it's meant to imply a connection to quantum physics, but even there, no vibration is personal and is nothing more than potential material. This is an example of the nonsense Esther preaches and followers are expected to swallow. It goes down best without thinking.

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      David Stone 1 3 years ago

      I allow the David Stone copy "David Stone 1" to express David Stone's ideas about Abe and Esther.

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      Doyle Scott 3 years ago

      I just spent several hours reading many of the comments here. I happen to be a big fan of Abe Hicks & credit many of my successes to their teachings. There are so many things that have been taken wildly out of context by David, that it just makes me laugh. Very much like the cafeteria Christians I know who take one or two verses out the Bible and conveniently discard the rest. I don't think I've ever blindly followed any philosophy or spiritual tradition but I have willingly listened to many . All I have done is applied spiritual concepts to my life & looked for evidence of whether they work or not. Some of the results, from applying the Abe stuff, have often left me breathless. I am my own evidence & seldom rely on other people's approval or disapproval of said concepts. I guess there will always be two sides to every coin...David sees a lack of compassion yet I see an incredible amount of compassion in what Abe teaches. Some say that Abe suggests there is no need for modern medicine but the consistent message from Abe is that all modalities can be useful if they raise our vibration/energy from where it was. I long ago discovered that there are 2 types of people in the world, those that like to build people up & those that like to tear people down. I didn't have to read many of David's comments to determine which type of person he is.

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