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Figure Skating Judging Guideline: 2

Updated on October 21, 2014

Something about spin: the uploader thinks Kim fails but Kim is perhaps the only one whom I can award +GOE for sit spin.


Learn sit spin from Yuna Kim

A Youtuber uploaded an interesitng clip.

Youtube is a world of stuffs. Some of them are useful and some are not, but I think that in the clip above you can compare different skater's spin anyway.

Obviosuly this clip was made to denounce Yuna Kim's spin but I don't think the person really understands sit spin or figure skating.

Aesthetics is a higher principle than the ISU rule book, and the rule books are designed to promote the due aesthetics. If the rules requirements impede the principle, it is the rules not the principles that you are to set aside.

The author of the clip argues insignifcant positions and unmerited points, even promoting deformed positions, saying difficulty. You can create all the difficulties in the world that don't amount to the hill of beans.

You don't have to be an expert to appreciate sit spin and judge its difficulty. If you compare various skaters' spins above, you can easily tell, unless you are blind, that Yuna Kim's sit spin is of the best quality. No gray contesting there.

Spin's techincal argument in the above is just pointless and nonsense. Without aesthetic desirability, your spin is simply a junk.

We don't put spin element in the program just to watch folded human flesh with hideous shapes like a lump of meat butchered. Sit spin has to be closed tightly and in a desirable shape with your leg straight, and I haven't seen any skater who can do it as satisfactorily as Kim yet.

A funny thing is that while no skaters are able to spin out goodies, they are all graded with +GOE simply because the judges use the rules to justify their arbitrary judging.

These days all skater receive +GOE on spins, footwork, or other elements without due quality. Even you can tell they have no idea of why they judge as they do. If all skaters receive +1, that means they are all equal for that element in quality, which makes it silly to mark them +1 at the first place.

Why don't they just leave them well alone?

Sit spin looks easy but very difficult to make it desirable.

First you must ask why we demand spin variations, or any requirements of skater. Give them a hard time? Or is that what the sport ideal demands?

Yeah, we may differentiate skaters by degree of difficulty, and let us say that's how we can get close to the ideal of the sport.

Then ask yourself, are they at least doing the two objectives above?

You see the point, right? In the past or even now the ISU judges have not only inflated the score with bogus merits but also impeded judging itself. If you gave all +1, why don't you just give 0 and make that level of performance as the baseline?

Or do you really find any merit on those +1 spins?

The problem is that the so called variations are simply uglier by each second and meaningless bogus to support the ISU's fraudulent show. There is neither technical difficulty nor aesthetic embodiment in them.

For sit spin, learn from Yuna Kim; for Biellmann spin, Alissa Czisny is the one you are looking for.

A tip: forget about who the spinner is. Think all those skaters in silhouette.

Which spin do you think is the most beautiful to look at?

See results

Whose spin do you think is the most desirable?

See results

Never mind what I said. You are welcome to dissent

Whose spin do you think is the best?

See results

Now take a look at the legendary Biellmann!

Alissa Czisny in 2011

Figure skating is dead without aesthetics

Biellmann spin is an example of balance between aesthetics and technical difficulty.

It's not only for Biellmann spin; all technical elements are there to assist aesthetic embodiment throughout the program. In other words, without aesthetics your technical difficulty shall not be appreciated.

On the other hand, even if your may imitate a few elegant gestures that look desirable, your skating without technical accomplishment shall not be justified.

In compulsory time, figure skating was a sport about how perfectly you draw figures on ice, and that's what was considered technicality rooted in the definition of the sport.

But as the sport evolves, that old definition had become obsolete and the sport adopted a new definition heavily weighed in free skating. In this modern figure skating the sport pursues aesthetics with all technical elements that are invested to maximize its effects.

Technical elements are not main objectives but tools to serve aesthetic embodiment; they are not meaningful themselves. Figure skating is not a sport measuring height of jump; figure skating is not a sport counting jump revolution; figure skating is not a sport measuring speed.

Figure skating is a quest for aesthetics pushing technical athleticism to the limit.


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