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The Tragic Truth about Tattoos

Updated on June 19, 2013
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The Truth about Tattoos

I had written a hub earlier on 'The Dangers of Tattoos' - which was from purely a medical point of view. The present article is more comprehensive, and should enlighten the open-minded reader about the 'dark truths' behind tattoos.

Historical Aspect

History shows that tattoos have always been associated with paganism, shamanism, heathen (Baal worship), occult mysticism and demonism. The tattoo has never been associated with Christians, until the present decadent religious times. Wherever the Christian faith made its entrance, the tattoo made its exit.

Tattoos where associated with shamans or magic-men (witch-doctors). A shaman is an intermediary between the natural and the supernatural worlds, who is in direct contact with spirits who are invariably evil. Tattooing was often a magical rite, linked to scarification and blood-letting, and the tattooing process involved complex rituals and taboos, known only to the shaman and his tribe. In tattooing the skin is punctured and the blood is drawn. Licking the blood during tattoo operations is not unknown. The puncturing was considered the ‘opening of inlets for evil to enter’. Tattoos were therefore channels for demonic possession. Even today, certain tattoo artists burn incense and light candles during tattoo operations, while others allow ‘demons to guide the tattoo needle over the client’s body’.

Tattoos have always reflected a note of unabashed rebellion and marked deviancy. Hence tattoos were used to mark criminals, adulterers, traitors, deserters, the deviant and the outcast. Even the ancient Greeks and Romans did not tattoo themselves, but they branded slaves and criminals with tattoos. The Latin word for ‘tattoo’ is ‘stigma’ – which is a distinguishing mark cut into the flesh of a slave or a criminal, and was considered a mark of disgrace or reproach. By the early 1900s public opinion against tattoos was so strong that tattooed persons were considered freaks and found mostly in sideshows and circuses.


The Psychological Aspect

It has been observed that criminals, drug addicts, sex perverts and social outlaws are the overwhelming majority of the tattooed. Hard rock bands sport sick and lewd tattoos. Gangs encourage tattoos to instill a sense of ‘belonging’. Tattoos carry a streak of aggression and anti-establishmentarianism and are subversive of morality. Death (inclusive of skulls, snakes, demons, flames) and pornography (lewd pictures, nude figures) are popular themes of tattoos. Psychologists have considered tattoos to be marks of personality disorder which is manifested later in criminal behavior. Low self-esteem, lack of self-control, sadomasochism, bondage, fetishism, bisexuality, antisocial personality, mania and bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia – are reflected in self-inflicted multiple tattoos.  Studies have linked tattoos to homosexuality, lesbianism and gross sexual perversion.

Tattooed youth are more likely to engage in sexual intercourse, take to alcohol and drugs, and exhibit violent behavior, and drop out of high school – by as much as 4 times compared to non-tattooed youth.

The Christian Aspect

Carnal Christians side-step the injuction in Leviticus 19;28 by arguing that the commandment is for Old Testament Israel and not for New Testament Christians. Does that mean that bestiality and child sacrifice which are forbidden in Leviticus are for Old Testament Israel and not for New Testament Christians? The New Testament does not have to spell out all sins. Smoking, for instance, is not mentioned in the Bible anywhere; but does it mean that smoking is not a vice or sin?

Reputed Bible scholars and commentators have made in clear that the moral commandments in Leviticus are for all time and not just for Israel in the Old Testament age. Leviticus 19:28 says, ‘You shall not make any cutting in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you. I am the LORD.’ On this Matthew Henry, Merrill Unger and Jamieson, Fausset and Brown have made it amply clear that tattoos are forbidden by God. It is to be noted that while ‘cuttings’ are qualified by the phrase ‘for the dead’, ‘marks’ (or tattoos) have no such qualification. Which means that all tattoos (Christian and otherwise) are evil in God’s eyes.

One of the arguments made by carnal Christians is that Lev 19.27 forbids haircuts. What Leviticus 19.27 is talking about is ‘rounding the corners of your head’ and ‘marring the corners of your beard’. These were heathen practices. One such practice was to cut the hair so that the head resembled a celestial globe. It is called a ‘tonsure’, a practice of heathens to honor their gods. The cutting of the flesh was demonstrated by the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel. It is not to be forgotten that the demon-possessed man in Mark 5 was in the habit of cutting himself with stones. Cutting and masochistic self-flagellation is also practiced by Muslims during their festival of Muharram. In short, the injunctions in Lev 19:26-28 are a strong condemnation of heathen practices – witchcraft, astrology, cutting, tattooing, tonsures, etc.

In 1 Samuel 15:23 we are told that ‘rebellion is like the sin of witchcraft’. Tattoos sported by today’s youth have been the mark of rebellion and hatred of authority (besides, rejection of all moral values). In God’s eyes, the sin of tattooing is like witch-craft. We have already seen the origins of tattoos in witch-craft and shamanism. It remains to be researched whether this ‘witch-craft’ has also led to widespread demon-possession. No, tattoos are not ‘body decoration’; they have nothing to do with fashion and beauty; but rather they are sinister signs of moral decay and infiltration by evil spirits into modern society.

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      6 months ago

      First of all, I honesly disagree with the content of the article, and I find it quite bigoted.

      Just quoting one reply of the author:

      "Your guilt is showing, Mr Leon. I know that the truth hurts. But if you were a man, you would accept it. Cowards take refuge in lies. I know my Bible. I know that God hates tattoos. The devil has deceived many with these 'criminal scars' - you have been branded by the enemy to show that you are his."

      Dear author, "Your Bible" might be different than mine, cause in mine I read different things.

      Just an exemple:

      Proverbs 6:16-19

      There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

      Tattoos? Have you seen that on the list?

      I also want to ask some questions from you. Do you really think that God judges someone by their appearance? Do you think that a say so "decoration" would turn someone into an evil person. I don't think it would matter to him even for a minute. :) If it does anyway, and I am wrong, then God bless me, cause I also have a tattoo... My God loves and accepts me this way, I think. I'd rather worry about my sins, than my appearance.

      Colossians 3:14

      And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.

      That's what matters! LOVE! To love and being loved, no matter what, and to accept your neighbours.

      I hope this kind of hatred and judgemental will leave your everyday attitude, because it hurts your soul!

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      Shane Hummer 19 months ago

      Let me start by saying this....I cannot believe I am even wasting time by commenting here. That being said...The bible was written by a man and therefore is the last thing any of us should trust. Get a group of people together...say 25 people, then tell one of them something real simple like "the moon is blue on Sundays", then have that person whisper it in the next person's ear, then the next and so on. See how different what you told the first person winds up being coming out of the last persons mouth. The bible having two versions {old testament, new testament} is cause enough for me to find fault. This however i find to be fact, there is nothing in either version that clearly states that tattooing is a sin or that god hates tattoos. Christianity in itself has been probably the bloodiest religion ever to plague the earth. Christians have killed and tortured millions throughout the years and continues to do so today. Ill take a tattoo over a church any day

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      peter theodosiou 2 years ago

      greeks don't get involved with drugs so don't blame us if you're a drug barren who has been caught

      stop shooting people with tattoos and migrant bikies they are not to blame

      if you get caught peddling drugs then you should look at yourself

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      Pratonix 2 years ago from Asia

      Your guilt is showing, Mr Leon. I know that the truth hurts. But if you were a man, you would accept it. Cowards take refuge in lies. I know my Bible. I know that God hates tattoos. The devil has deceived many with these 'criminal scars' - you have been branded by the enemy to show that you are his.

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      Leon 3 years ago

      I just searched for your references and the info I found, almost word for word, was dated 1985 or later. And a heavy dose of plagiarism.

      Also, it's people like you make spreading the Lords good word, difficult. Here have twisted scripture for your purpose and threw out the rest. Ever wonder why people are turned off to church? You gave a great example with this "article".

      The very reason I don't call myself a Christian, but rather a follower of Christ. If you are to obey one Levitical law, you must follow them all. No exclusions or excuses. Otherwise, you are acting upon the very "evil" you are attempting to scorn yourself.

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      Jo 3 years ago

      Let's be honest the author to idea no valid resources. His bible verses can sure be valid by that single-minded view, but there is mention of what psychologists say yet there is no citation of this research. I'm glad some have blind faith, but I have to whole heartedly disagree with the author simply for his lack of evidence.

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      michael9311 3 years ago

      In my interaction with the Bible, I have come across tattoos or their depiction for that matter two times. The first time is in Leviticus 19:27, from where this article is based on. The second mention of the tattoo in the Bible is in Isaiah 44:5, which states, "Some will say, 'I belong to the LORD'; others will call themselves by the name of Jacob; still others will write on their hand, 'The LORD's,' and will take the name Israel."

      From both contexts, it is clear that two different Biblical views on the use of tattoos exist, where one admonishes it and the other seems to use it in a Christian perspective. However, this is just my opinion and I stand to be corrected.

      While I am not a fanatical for the use of tattoos, I take liberal views on most issues. I believe in freewill where humankind has the right to choose how they live their lives but with full knowledge that there might be consequences.

      I would very much like to hear the opinion of those associating this practice with devil worship about the second context in which the depiction of a tattoo is used in the Bible.

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      Mark 3 years ago

      I know a lot of people can argue whatever they want to,but God's Truth still stands.if God's word says its wrong then no opinion matters.Guys don't try to show you know and claim that intentions are better than God's command...did God said No Markings? Then don't. What if after all this defence you are trying to raise, God says you are wrong? Its better to be wrong now and be right at last than to claim right now and be told you are wrong in the end where it all matters... God help us!

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      Pratonix 3 years ago from Asia

      I am delighted that this article has been appreciated by many people on the Net, and has generated a lot of discussion. There are many who are blinded by the lies of Satan, and their own reluctance to obey the truth. But the fact of the matter is that Tattoos are evil - and that included so-called 'christian tattoos'!

      Here is a link from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3086395...

      where my article has generated tremendous response. May the Lord bless this article, and may many who are now blinded come to see the truth!

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      Charlie 3 years ago

      To the author of the hub :

      As much as i think you may have a point, or may not,

      the essence of the matter definitely does not reside therein.

      Judgement belongs to judges. and theres only one judge in the universe.

      Like many before me have pointed, i also faith strongly that Our father, Christ, in his holy spirit, judges us according to our hearts. Nothing else.

      You are free to follow OT rules, believe they still apply in NT times, or not, worship God almighty or his enemy, be an atheist, smoke a cigarette, have sex, or not, pray liturgically or in your heart, sitting or standing, or on your knees. But i believe the most important, in my understanding anyway, is to kneel before our Father in spirit. in the heart. truthfully and loyally.

      Love Him. Love Others. Love Yourself.

      All intellect, All feeling, All will is god.

      And i believe God understands each single one of these comments from the heart perspective of it's writer. for there is where he dwells, or so i love to believe, and will keep believing; and I'm only using the word believe cause i already used faith as a verb and I'm not sure its correct according to laws of grammar.

      But I'm sure the good intention of my message came across.

      And thats precisely my point.

      Jesus christ is God to me. Along with the father and holy spirit.

      i know of the evil of this world, and walk with god to fight it. First in my own consciousness, and then in the collective if so my fate wills. Cause i certainly will so.

      Free will is the most determining faculty man can have in his life, soul and in this world. And i stand firm by the liberty that comes with it.

      But with every choice a consequence. so as long as all your choices are good. the consequences should be too.

      Getting a tattoo is something infinitely small in front of the truth of love.

      And instead of arguing and tearing each other for this (for some) i think god would much prefer if we each did as we wish to do, but loved each other, ourselves and him deeply in our hearts.

      For it is all that matters.

      I have a tattoo, and I'm getting another one next week.

      I understand it is associated with the lost world. but aren't we all lost anyway?

      We certainly aren't found by thinking we are. or we know.

      For all we know, we barely know what we are, individually and as a whole.

      But we surely know we can love. LOVE.

      and we shouldn't fear.

      and that post looks to be more inspired by fear than by love.

      Best intentions to all of you. God bless

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      Banana 3 years ago

      Something has to terribly wrong inside persons brain in order to decide to slap a graffiti on ones own skin. In the least it shows that tattooing is a profound disrespect for ones own body and that is the starting point of any perversion - moral, sexual...

      Hence people with ratios are disgusting as their graffiti is an immediate sign that one should shunt that person and not associate.

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      Masters Degree in Psychology 3 years ago

      20 tattoos and COUNTING!

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      Griffin 3 years ago

      I thought this article was a serious lack of research and well... brain matter as a whole! Articles like this are EXACTLY why other religions are taking over, leaving Christianity as a minority group! People just refuse to be brainwashed in todays age! Christians, Pagans and any other religion alike should find this insulting! Shut your website down rather than post bullshit! Where I come from we call people like you "Oxygen thieves"!

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      lonesurvivor 3 years ago

      Neither God, Hell nor the Bible has anything to do with it.....if you voluntary have a tattoo, then you have a mental disorder.....that's a medical fact!!!!!...and the more tattoos, the more & worse the disorders.....99% of the time, leading to criminal tendencies...if you don't believe it....go check the mug shots at your local jail....

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      Lt. Hayes 3 years ago

      About 90% of what is said on this page is wrong, The biggest thing that gets to me is that it sounds like your saying that if I, or anyone, has a tattoo then they are going to hell, God looks to the heart, I have Semper Fi tattooed on my right wrist, and i have the names of all of my fallen friends on my left arm, God will not damn my soul for them.

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      Aubery 3 years ago

      you are who you are …….sorry but religion should be banned and never to be forced on anyone ….your beliefs are your own …..keep them to your selves …..religion has killed more people than drugs and alcholol and always will for all time ……the bible was translated from latin to english to keep the population under control by the Kings and Queens of the time !!!

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      dhurga 3 years ago

      I found this page because I was thinking of dying my hair and most sites I landed upon had the qualities of female, hair, tattoos, so I looked up hair and tattoos. I have thus far read the old testament up to exodus. I have 4 stomach piercings. I don't think most of us realize how we open ourselves up to certain kinds of energy when we pierce the body. So for example many of us are considered blasphemous by those who consider the act of personal demarcation a rather serious and sacred matter. How many of us are willing to admit that our tattoos are vain and narcissistic?

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      monoousian 3 years ago

      You seem to only focus on the negative views of tattoos. Have you even given a second thought to the fact that there are positive points to having them as well?

      First of all, in your "historical aspect", you have failed to recognise that tattoos have been used THROUGHOUT history in tribes as a form of identification. For example, tattoos in the Maori tribe of New Zealand were used to mark great warriors. These tattoos were completely unique to each tribe member because they were created to fit the lines of the body for that particular individual. You are of course correct about criminals being tattooed or branded. I find it highly interesting that you say " Wherever the Christian faith made its entrance, the tattoo made its exit." when referring to tattoos as a paganistic practice. Funny, because pagan holidays didn't make an exit when Christianity came into fashion, but you don't seem to have a problem with that.

      Now, as a psychologist, I find your views of the "psychological aspect" rather entertaining. Tattoos are associated with risk-taking behaviour so yes, it wouldn't be ridiculous to assume that they are linked to drug/alcohol intake, criminal behaviour etc. But funnily enough, high IQ has also been linked to drug consumption. The fact that there is a correlation tells us nothing, it must be looked at further before any assumptions can be made. You brought up the interesting point that there is a link between tattoos and low self-esteem. Unfortunately, you didn't bother to expand upon that point, so I shall do it for you. Tattoos are a way for many people to gain control over their own bodies, if you will. It gives them a better sense of self. It really doesn't surprise me that people with low self-esteem get tattoos because they just want to feel contented, like they belong to something. If their tattoos help them to feel happier, who are you to judge them and say that tattoos are wrong?

      In my opinion, tattoos are a form of self-identification and indication of group belonging (much like "Christian" is for you). Instead of jumping to incorrect conclusions about people with tattoos, I implore you to think a little outside the box when considering why they have them.

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      lapoops 4 years ago

      tattoos are really stupid looking. I make 6 figures a year toward the 8's. I don't date women who have tattoos. Sorry ladies, good luck!

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      mdgfnvreyz 4 years ago

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      Pratonix is blind 4 years ago

      Oh wow, haha. I couldn't even read all of this. I believe by reading 4 sentences of each section, my IQ dropped about 30-40 points. This is the most un realistic most ignorant thing I've ever heard. I could go on and on about how F****** dumb you sound. But you probably won't even read this.

      Not everybody is into a vanilla lifestyle. You're one of those wierdos that don't do anything without praying to God first to get the "answer", aren't you. Wake up.

      I am Christian and live in a Christian family. I go to church twice a week and read the bible. I have no tattoos and don't like them either. But what you are saying here is probably the reason so many people now days are atheists. You sound like a raging f****** lunatic. I'm embarrassed to have the same religion as you.

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      Lol 4 years ago

      You know most of you are funny, some of you are saying God is the God of hearts, yes that's true, but what is outside its what's in the heart, when you say that tattoos are how u express yourself you actually right too, cos that's what's in the heart, can you all seriously imagine Jesus Christ with a tattoo lol? People judge u on the outside cos that's all they see and God judge u on what's on your heart but what's interesting is what's outside like those tattoos it's what's inside, I'm still looking for mother Theresa or a pope with a tattoo

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      Joseph Grima 4 years ago

      My name is Joseph Grima I am a dedicated christen , husband , and father . I'm a New York City firefighter ...AND!!! tattoo artist. I'm tattooed over 30% of my body have never did drugs and can assure you my lord Jesus Christ and God the father are more concerned about the kind of person I am on the inside then the "scares" on my body ... I looked for the name of the ignorant person who wrought this but could not find it ... I would love for him/her or anyone who has information on him/her to email my Jshov93@aol.com I would love to put them in their place

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      Lu 4 years ago

      This article is so ridiculous that I don't even have to make fun of it.

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      Levi 4 years ago

      I love my God, and my ink. He gave me life, and free-will. You are human. The only person that can judge me? No one. Only God. Someday a doctor or a police officer could save your life. There is a 50% chance they will have ink. You are in no positioin to point fingers and judge. (:

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      John Ortiz 4 years ago

      We all know in our hearts that tattoos don't belong on the body. They look ugly when our skin becomes old and wrinkly. There is nothing more beautiful than a natural body with no foolish markings. The word of God absolutely forbids tattoos. We are called to be seperate from the world and holy. God commands us not to imitate the world. We are to glorify God with our bodies.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      That radio priest must have been a rabid priest. I don't think he knew the Word of God. Such stupid ignorance!

      God hates Tattoos! Paul said that the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and you CANNOT tattoo the temple of God!

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Paganism is the religion of the devil, fyi.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      I love what 4th Grade Teacher wrote. There are still some sane people in this crazy (tattoo-ed) world!

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      I guess sane people should worry about neurosurgeons like you. The picture you've described is not 'beautiful art', but quite the reverse. Just nauseating.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Not 'brave enough to try it'. Only laughing loons will try tattoos. They're SICK.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Thanks, Rick.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Good reply, Teacher. But the rest simply refuse to learn. Guess they never really went to school - the School of Christ!

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Stick to the subject. The Bible clearly and strongly CONDEMNS tattoos.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      I wish you knew God, knew the Bible (the Word of God). It is your absolute moral and spiritual ignorance that has led you to respond the way you've done.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      You can talk about loving God, etc - but when you DISOBEY God, you are only proving that you are a hypocrite. The Bible strongly condemns tattoos.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      I guess your whole body is covered with tattoos - and perhaps you're trying in vain to get rid of them. Live with them all your life!

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Rather, Lauren has been talking through her hat!

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Keep hoping in vain. I spoke the truth - and those who love tattoos (and things which are abominable to God) will simply not understand what I've written.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      It's wonderful that the Jews do not love tattoos. True Christians have NOT junked the Torah; it's part of our Bible!

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      I think, Frank, you know very little of the Bible. Those who do not have the Spirit of God and are IGNORANT of the Word of God, generally try to defend tattoos.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Yes, this article is eye-opening. But those who are BLINDED by sin and hate cannot see the Truth of it.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Beautiful response, Diane. Sorry I'm responding so late. (Got a bit tired of HubPages, and the exploitation by GoogleAds!)

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Yes, God looks on the heart. But He HATES tattoos.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Somebody called 'Respect' wrote to me long ago and signed off like this: "Your pathetic stab at defining tattoos truly makes me laugh. Idiot."

      If that somebody had "Respect", he wouldn't call himself Idiot! ;)

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Beautiful words. "Everytime I see people with a tattoo, I think what a dummy, what a moron, what a mindless pygmy. I can't help what I feel. It is so ugly, tasteless and sickening." You said it from the heart. (Look at all the stupid heart-less comments made on my hub! What is the world coming to?)

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      The two hubs that I wrote on Tattoos are well-researched and absolutely authoritative. There are no two opinions about tattoos. In God's eyes, tattoos are 'verboten'.

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      Pratonix 5 years ago from Asia

      Yes, all those who love & sport tattoos are Idiots.

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      Zealots Are Idiots 5 years ago

      Article is absolutely hilarious! Excellent satire. What? You mean you were serious? *snicker*

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      Tuesday75 5 years ago from Omaha, NE

      Wow...look at the comments on this Hub! I posted something about tattoos on a forum one time (many years ago), and I got hammered with comments from people. Something about people and their defense of tattoos I will never understand.

      Let's just be honest...it makes NO sense for a person to pay someone to put them through pain so they can be marked permanently. It's just not common sense. It's weird and odd and something has to be misfiring inside of your brain for anyone to find that normal behavior. You're mutilating yourself and as mentioned above, an irresponsible way to spend your money.

      Just the fact that people get so defensive about it shows that something inside of them knows it's wrong. As far as calling people "narrow-minded" well, what's that say about you? If you can't even accept another person's opinion, then YOU are being just as "narrow-minded" if not more since you're telling the author he/she doesn't even have a *right* to express their opinion or thoughts freely. This is America, not some communist crap country.

      I have a friend that is tattooed from almost neck to toe, hands, back, you name it. He still has some space on his chest, but that's about it. Wonderful guy but even he knows he's just messed up. He has an anti-social side to him and I don't want to reveal too much about him but something is very wrong with him. Now, are ALL people this way? I don't know but, I would imagine that most are. There really is something concerning the psychology of those who get multiple tattoos and mutilate themselves.

      As far as the Christian aspect, I am a Christian and people need love and we need to love all of our brothers and sisters, no matter what they have done. You are not going to hell for tattoos; all are forgiven. Yes, we are saved through grace but, please remember that G-d did not put you on earth to suffer. He wants you to be prosperous. He wants you to have a good life and that's why he gave us the commandments and rules to follow.

      Getting tattoos, especially in visible areas can prevent you from getting a good job, it puts a negative stigma upon you. You might even be considered an outsider among peers or other groups. G-d wants you to be loved and to be loved by many. He doesn't want you to be an outcast.

      No matter how "tolerant" we become to tattoos, we have actually become more intolerant. Look at the comments on this Hub. The worst intolerance comes from those who are always preaching to everyone how great they are because they tell people their tolerant and condemn anyone that doesn't think as they do. *shaking head* Irony at its finest!

      Oh, and I do not celebrate easter, Christmas, or other pagan holidays. When you have the love of the Lord in your heart, you refrain from sinning. Now, I can't say I fully free from sin, we are ALL sinners but, I can say, I sin much less now that I have turned to the Lord. The Bible is wonderful but no, Christians should not be legalistic about it. The book was written for people to study and go about learning at their own pace, not for people to argue and insult one another. Again, love yourself, love your fellow man.

      Smoking is considered a sin because you are purposely damaging cells in your body. Please say no one here is going to argue that smoking is good for your body. Your body is a temple and you're supposed to take care of it so you can live long and live happily. Again, G-d WANTS you to be happy and live a good, prosperous life. Just because you are forgiven doesn't mean rules do not apply.

      It's like a parent telling their child not to touch the stove. The child can touch the stove and the parent will still love the child but, they know the child will be injured and possibly scarred for the rest of their lives. It's not that the parent is some mean figure; their rules are out of pure LOVE, as are G-d's.

      Where I disagree with many modern Christians is the use of pagan hell. The concept was brought into the church almost immediately but, if you study early Christianity, no Christian ever preached such nonsense and it makes sense since you can't love if your love is governed by fear. If you're only loving G-d because you're afraid He will torture you, that's not love at all.

      If people are willing to understand how much Jesus loves then, they can begin their walk of slowly getting to know Him and then, the understanding of why He tells people to avoid things like getting tattoos can be revealed. Everyone has to learn at their own pace...just as I am traveling along at another pace.

      Remember, all tongues will confess Jesus' name. G-d bless.

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      Vegasvoice 5 years ago

      When people are faced with arguments they don’t like—they ignore the arguments and misuse Jesus’ apparent command not to “judge” in order to shut you up. So if you oppose their behavior or their attempt to get the nation to endorse their immorality (morally objectionable behavior ), you’re sure to hear, “Thou shalt not judge!”

      As with most slogans shouted by such people, the truth is exactly opposite to what they claim. Those demanding tolerance take the judgment statements of Jesus out of context because they want to avoid any moral condemnation for their own actions, and they don’t want you to notice that they are making judgments too. Let’s take a look at what Jesus actually said:

      “Do not judge lest you be judged.

      “For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

      “And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

      “Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye?

      “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye” (Matthew 7:1-5).

      Notice Jesus isn’t telling us not to judge—Jesus is telling us how to judge. He commands us to take the speck out of our brother’s eye— that involves making a judgment, but He also commands us to stop committing the bigger sins ourselves so we can better help our brother.

      In other words, when you judge, do so rightly not hypocritically. Jesus actually commands us to make judgments elsewhere in the Bible. In John 7:24, He says, “stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment.” Jesus would never tell us to stop judging—that would be suicide. Just think about how impossible life would be if we did not make judgments. You make hundreds, if not thousands, of judgments every day between good and evil, right and wrong, dangerous choices from safe ones. You would be dead already if you did not make judgments.

      (Of course, there’s a difference between making a judgment and being judgmental. We must make judgments, but we must make them with the right attitude.)

      I think that this article was not meant to harm others, it was simply written to inform others, who may be considering a tatoo, the pros and cons. We all have our own convinctions. If you are not sure wether you should get a tattoo or not, then research it yourself and then pray about it and ask God to guide you with his Holy Spirit. For those of you who need more information, here is a page that I came across that was informative: http://www.av1611.org/tattoos/intro.html

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      anon 5 years ago

      Everytime I see people with a tattoo, I think what a dummy, what a moron, what a mindless pygmy. I can't help what I feel. It is so ugly, tasteless and sickening.

      I can understand if someone wanted a temporary henna tattoo for fun for one day of their day of their lives but even then, what is the point? It is so tacky and so gross looking. I do associate tattoos with deviant behavior and stupid people.

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      Respect. 5 years ago

      What about about tattoos about faith in Christ and remembrance of lost loved ones you biased fool. You relate tattoos to homosexuality and yet defend ancient Greeks and Romans? Well sorry to burst your holy bubble but it was encouraged in ancient Greece AND Rome for young men to be free and have sex with other men until they were old enough to marry their wives who they abused and had absolutely no place in society. I would rather defend the countless people I know who are amazing, intelligent, and have tattoos. Your views on Christian ways and your stereotypes only reflect your ignorance. Your pathetic stab at defining tattoos truly makes me laugh. Idiot.

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      Annelie 5 years ago

      I am no fan of big and many tattooes, but tattooes are what you make of them. This article started with ok history appoach, but later ended up in Christian propaganda.

      In India f.eks tattooes on your forhead can tell that you are married a.s.o. Not all tattooes are evil. They are what you make of them, like with everything in life. If you approach a person in the believes that they are evil, then maybe they are to you even if they really are not.

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      raz 5 years ago

      this modern life is either black or white,human beings should stop beating around the bush or having to find someone to xplain to them what something means,you already know whether something is right or wrong from the word go.......stop excuses and sick ideas bringing up the whole world to support what you stand for at the moment because it will never make it right............

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      Teresa Spingola 6 years ago

      This article was very informative. I have not thought one way or the other regarding the moral aspect of getting a tatoo. I have only related to it from a medical standpoint, being in the medical field. Thank you for sharing this.

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      Firetoad99 6 years ago from Huntington Beach

      Mutilation of the body?!. HAHAHA. So then the needle that pierced my arm as child to inoculate me against diseases sent me straight to hell i guess. Or perhaps before that my surgery as a baby. Or does only my doctor go to hell for that one. Perhaps everyone who has given or received an organ, blood, bone marrow, etc. Ever known anyone with cancer? Then ill bet you know someone who has been mutilated in one fashion or another. Hell must be getting pretty crowded. So where do you draw the line? And who chose you to be the one to draw it?

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      Gyo 6 years ago

      Its amazing how arrogant can the human being be that always trys to minimize God to it´s narrow view of the world both preferences and likes/dislikes.

      I have a tatoo, proud of it and i´m not a criminal, homosexual (not that i´m agains it) pervert, crazy, killer, drug addict, or Whatever. I have my degree and soon i´ll have my masters. And I believe in God and Jesus, and i don´t think he cares more about a mark in our body than we spreading hate to others and using him for our sellfish an commodity preferences instead of thrully loving our brothers and sisters.

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      mary stormshade 6 years ago

      @legitimate question

      nice....

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      Tattoo'd Pope 6 years ago

      Pratonix 26 hours ago

      Legitimate Question, the doubts you have about Leviticus are illegitimate, because you have no idea what the Book of Leviticus is talking about. It is, however, your prerogative to misinterpret the Bible; but remember, there is a Judgment for those who twist Scripture.

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      Pratonix,

      You are quoting the scripture out of context. God NEVER said tattoos are a bad thing. This scripture refers to the pagan practice of marking and burying bodies...

      No where in the bible does it state marking of one's skin on a living person is banned....only in its context and use....

      tats and piercings are not a bad thing, if they were, the saints and Jesus himself would not have favor in God's eyes....

      unless of course you think your better than God...or that God even supports your spinning of his words into distortions..

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      hangmansgirl 6 years ago

      @ Pratonix (this is Emily)

      You're right, there is information you and others have found against tattoos, but there is also just as much for tattoos and the limited risks.

      Historically tattoos where about defiance or superstition or religious/cultural beliefs. Modern tattoo can still carry those ideas as well as a host of others. Do not judge by the present by the past.

      Yes, there are psychological effects on a person with a tattoo. Some have regret because it was a drunken mistake or an act of rebellion against something. Some feel lighter or content with what they have because it is a kind of closure (i.e. me). Others just do it because they like it. They cannot walk away un-effected.

      Socially, 1 in 3 in my age bracket have a tattoo. There is stigma and prejudice against the tattoo in the world, it doesn't mean it right but it's there. To reject someone solely on the fact of tattoos is unfair. I also think that social and psychological reasons are closely linked and cannot be separated.

      There is always, and I mean always, a medial risk for ANYTHING you do. The key is knowledge. Educate yourself about the risks, processes and consequences. Any tattoo shop worth their ink will tell you and show you their procedures for maintaining a safe and clean environment. I went to 5 shops and asked all my questions, which they answers politely and gladly, before choosing my shop and artist. I also went to my regular doctor and asked questions about the effects medically. Removal can be a long and more painful process. It’s one of the many, many things I considered when getting my tattoo. I never assumed that I could take it off at any time. Tattoos are meant to PERMANENT, that’s why getting one should not be taken lightly. FYI, any one considering getting a glow-in-the-dark tattoo shouldn’t, the inks can be very toxic and most artists won’t do them.

      Religiously, I have no right answer for this, just my thoughts. I stated before my parents are catholic, I’m not. I don’t know what I am. I have read 75% of the Bible, parts of the Torah, Koran, and many other religious doctrines from around the world. I have made it a point in my life to try to understand others’ religion and cultural views so that I may have a better understanding of the world in which I live. There are religions around the world millennia older than Christianity with similar allegorical stories. Who's right, I don't know. I do believe that this is something greater than me in the universe. Whether it is the Christian God or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I just don’t know. Blind faith for me is hard, some of the greatest atrocities in human history where committed in the name of someone’s god. What ever deity is out there, I hope that he/she/it will judge me on my actions towards the world and not my tattoo: if they do I hope he/she/it asks me why before writing me off as unworthy.

      No one will every win this debate. We just have to respect each others stance. I respect that you view that tattoos are an immoral choice based on religion and not reason or meaning behind the tattoo. I hold firm that you must respect my choice that I have a tattoo in spite of all the arguments against it and with full knowledge of the historical, social, psychological, medical and religious ramifications.

      Also, any one considering getting a tattoo and reading this there are two books you should read, the first is The Tattoo Encyclopedia: A Guide to Choosing Your Tattoo and the second is Ink:The Not-Just-Skin-Deep Guide to getting a Tattoo both by Terisa Green, Ph.D.

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      Laurens 6 years ago

      What does it matter what religiouse people think about tattoos? In my opinion, religious people are the most stupid people, so leave them out of the tattoo-industry! those people don't even make they're own choises in live, but hide behind a book, because they're too scared for the truth... nothing to do with the tattoo world of today!

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      Stick. 6 years ago

      your article does nothing but highlight the prejudiced nature of some people in our society today.

      Also, the suggestion that tattooing is associated with sexual deviance is a hair's breadth from outright homophobia.

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      Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia

      Legitimate Question, the doubts you have about Leviticus are illegitimate, because you have no idea what the Book of Leviticus is talking about. It is, however, your prerogative to misinterpret the Bible; but remember, there is a Judgment for those who twist Scripture.

      Alexandruv, the scientific study is at https://hubpages.com/style/The-Dangers-of-Tattoos

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      alexandruv 6 years ago

      Hi Pratonix,

      Interesting point of view, however I think it's not very objective.

      There are many individuals with tattoos and they aren't gay/sexually obsessed etc. This religious point of view doesn't apply to everybody and shouldn't even be considered (not everybody share the same views). If you can bring scientific facts to the table then yes, ok studies have some % of credibility but quotes from bible - only if you believe in it.

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      Legitimate Question 6 years ago

      Pratonix:

      Leviticus 19:27 "You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard." So, I guess anyone with a haircut and a goatee is going to hell? It says so right in the bible.

      By the way, it also says, a few verses before that in Leviticus 19:19 "You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed; nor shall there come upon you a garment of cloth made of two kinds of stuff." This rules out a) any sort of genetically engineered animal or plant, b) any farmer who practices crop rotation, and c) anybody who has ever worn synthetic clothing (i.e. cotton polyester). Leviticus 19:4 "Do not turn to idols or make for yourselves molten gods." That pretty much rules out anybody who has ever used any sort of metal currency. That sums it up: all Americans are going to Hell for disobeying the Bible. Nice job, guys.

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      Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia

      Emily, you made a great defence, speaking for tattoos. But what about the overwhelming medical, psychological, historical, social and spiritual evidence AGAINST tattoos.

      And how does your defence stand against one simple command from God, which is: You shall NOT mark your body with tattoos. Lev 19:28. God speaks for our good. The Creator knows more about us than we ourselves. Let us honor Him by total obedience.

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      Emily 6 years ago

      As a persons with a tattoo, I have to say that this article is offensive. My catholic father and step-mother do not mind, nor does the rest of my family or friends. My tattoo is a memorial to my mother and a very close friend who can no long be with me in this world. I spent 6 years researching meaning and art work, artists and ink, but also the affects of time on the tattoo and medical ramification. This should never be a whim or lark for a person, because they may end up regretting it. I spent a lot of time thinking "do I really want this on myself for the rest of my life?" I came to the conclusion that I could live with the the tattoo and the stigma for the rest of my life. I chose 4 simple lines of text that I wrote and a pretty font to remind me of them and to remind me that life is short and I should live a life with out regrets. You wear a necklace that belonged to grandma to remember, I wear words. I fail to see how a piece of art for memory will condemn me to hell.

      I have never been arrested, I don't do drugs, I am from a upper middle class family, and I have a college degree and a full time job. Needless to say, I chose a spot on my body that was not seen unless to be shown on purpose so that I would not be judge by my ink. (For all of you who are thinking dirty, it's between my shoulder blades just below my neck.) My tattoo is for me not the world. I don't need every one to see it to know it's there and it means something. I also chose this place because I do know that in today’s work world, it is much harder to get a job with visible tattoos. In fact, the company I work for has a policy that states, any employee must not have tattoos or body jewelry visible while on the clock, they must be covered an/or taken out.

      I believe there are people with tattoos that are violent, just as there are those who aren't. If you don't believe in tattooing don't get one, but don't judge all people by one standard. You do NOT know why they have the tattoo and to judge it with out that knowledge will offend them. Tread carefully.

      I respect peoples rights to believe in what they believe and how they wish to live but not the right to impose that way on others. There are religious reasons to not get them for some people but there are also cultures across the world where tattoos are a fundamental part of their religion or beliefs. No matter what your religion, I hope you believe that a person has the right to express themselves any way the want while not causing harm to others. My tattoo doesn't hurt you or your children or anyone else for that matter. It only hurt me for the hour I sat to get it. If you walked past me no the street or saw me at work you would never know I have one.

      36% of Americans from 18 to 50 have a tattoo, 1 in 3 people. Chances are you know someone with a tattoo. I don’t know if I will ever get another tattoo but I know that I will not regret the one I have and no one can make me regret it for any reason.

      My body IS a temple with a memorial painted on it. It’s just that simple for me.

      And for anyone wondering my tattoo reads:

      speak before silenced

      move before stilled

      laugh before tears

      love before lost

      in living memory

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      Scott 6 years ago

      Matthew 7:15--Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

      This verse refers to each and every one of you who pass judgment and condemn people to hell for their beliefs, or lack thereof. You blasphemously feast on the "unrighteous" for no other reason than self-promotion in the eyes of your "lord." You are brown-nosing, religious yes-men, kissing the ass of a deity who, if he ever DID exist, abandoned you centuries ago. Your god is dead and buried next to Zeus, Ra, Neptune, Odin, and the other obsolete myths created by humanity.

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      mimind 6 years ago from THE UNITED STATES

      I found this hub interesting to read and though its a theological and social argument on perceptions and stereotypes not a cut and dry argument it was interesting.

      Religion to some is "faith in the written word" although the written word was made by man supposedly translated/ transcribed from god then scholars etc read and gave their takes and added meanings etc.

      I do not agree with you but then again I believe that any devine being out there would not be so petty as to dictate how one lives dress, adornments, etc so long as the person enriched theirs and others lives not causing harm or suffering. Justification being taht if the goal of the religion is peace and happines why cause such discord by having silly rules and requiring worship, that if its given should be at the whim of the person not structured as it means more from the heart then in a ritual one can do without much thought.

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      Jazz 6 years ago

      I think its funny all of the people on here that say they are "Christians" but are judging everyone with tattoos. If you are a Christian I think you would know that you shouldn't judge others or think your better than others leave that to God. Plus when you die so does your body it stays here on earth buried in the ground. Your soul is what is cherished so maybe you should work on your soul and not judging others and not so much about everyone else and their tattoed bodies!:)

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      cathy 6 years ago

      Hey Kudos to you Phoenix Harte. You put that author right where they needed to be put

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      PhoenixHarte 6 years ago

      Hopefully this works. I have an interesting angle on this. SO making cuts on the body is a sin, eh? How about plastic surgery? Implants? Here's my take. I was born with some major facial birth defects including a cleft palate. I am blind in one eye and now wear a special prosthetic to fill the empty socket. I have undergone 12 reconstructive surgeries to try and correct an underdeveloped upper jaw, a deformed nose, spent about 16 years in braces. I have scars on my face and my body from those procedures. I've had bone grafts from my ribs, hip and skull. Skin grafts from my earlobes, behind the ears, and forehead. AM I going to hell for that? You look me in the face and say that. Oh, and I have TWO tattoos. I also have gauged my ears. Want to know something? My surgeries hurt WAY more than the tattoos. Being bullied brutally because of my disfigurement hurt WAY more than the ink. Those bullies were also supposedly 'pious Christians', who said I should die because God said so. I graduated high school, got my Associate's from college. I work in an office, I drive a car, heck I crochet.

      I'll take my tattoos and my tattooed friends any day over the sanctimonious drivel of raving religious nutbags. Oh, and lastly, I'm not even Christian. I'm a pagan, and I learned more about loving myself from this faith than I ever did under the heel of Christianity. So chew on that.

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      Mortified 6 years ago

      I clicked on this article link because I thought there were going to be medical reasons against tattoos. I was not expecting the propoganda that I read. Now it leaves me in doubt about the rest of the web site. As an educator I was totally mortified by the teachers comments. The trouble with religion (apart from war) is the extremists who get hold of about the it. I get sick of "good religious" people who want to ram their views down your throat, but won't talk to a family because they are from the wrong area. What happened to "no one has the right to judge another". If you can go to bed at night with a clear conscience, then you are doing yourself and the world a favour.

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      Paul 6 years ago

      That's it - ever since I got my Jesus fish tattoo vie been feeling gay. He was riiiiiiiiiight! And there is no turning back..........

      Ahhhhhhhhh

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      Michelle 6 years ago

      All of these arguments against the One True Holy God are immaterial, "every knee shall bow, every tongue confess". Refusing to worship or obey God is meaningless here - it's when you've died that it will matter, and then it will be too late. God is a gentleman - if you want nothing to do with Him here, He will accept that choice, and love demands a choice - we are not automatons and He gave us the ability to choose.

      There is only one question - Jesus, or no Jesus. Everything else in life stems from that choice. HE said "no one comes to the Father but through me". Book report kids - either you believe it or you don't. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. The behavior that pleases God and protects us from harm is laid out clearly in the ENTIRE Bible. Although I don't think God would damn me to hell for having a tattoo if I had one, I'd rather receive the blessings associated with obedience to God then to continue in rebellion; and that is what all these arguments miss. Trust me - those blessings are worth having. "Know Jesus, know Truth. No Jesus, no Truth". Satan is the father of lies, and this world belongs to him. Choose this day whom you will serve. Just because you don't believe does not mean your day of judgment won't come.

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      Me 6 years ago

      ...so tattoos will make you gay?

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      Kassi_Nova 6 years ago from The Wet Coast, Canada

      It goes to show how very much you want to prove your point when you know enough about history and culture to notice how little you know about other religions. Shamanism isn't black magic, and shamans do not commune with spirits that are "invariably evil". In fact, most shamans (medicine men) commune with the spirits of ancestors, and their spirit animals (totem). The shaman invited the spirit of the animal in, and inherited its abilities. But it was a mutual contract between the animal and the shaman to share a oneness for mutual gain. Shaman also contacted spirit guides or guardian spirits to help the people through difficult times. Shamanism is one of the oldest and most prevalent healing tradition, begun in tribal cultures and carried into modern times for centuries from around the world.

      Even paganism has its roots in simple culture.

      Why does every religion that does not stem from Christianity have to be 'evil'? "GOD" is a concept, and carries many names in many cultures. In older religions (yes, ones that even predate the written word- thus predating the bible itself), "GOD" is not even one entity, but many. The ancient Greeks believed in a godlike being for various intention, action and emotion- an idea also adopted by the Romans. One of the oldest known religions was that of the Ancient Egyptians- wherein the people were forced to believe in false Gods who were merely Pharoas, passing themselves off as demigods. Religion, at its first beginnings, was ritualistic in nature.

      And I seriously think that people worldwide who get tattoos would have a problem being accused of satanistic devil worshippers. Incense isn't used there to channel Satan- it's used because it smells nice. Stop watching all of those horror movies.

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      Overstarr 6 years ago

      Way to judge everyone based on past uses of tattoos. I don't get why you have to blame our generation for this, when it really is your generation's fault... its bad enough that many youth feel the need to "have a better body" because of the media.

      Lets face it, tattoos only reflect what is already there, but doesn't change a single thing. You have missed that point, and have seriously just offended wayyy too many people.

      What a "facepalm" moment.

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      Overstarr 6 years ago

      Way to judge everyone based on past uses of tattoos. I don't get why you have to blame our generation for this, when it really is your generation's fault... its bad enough that many youth feel the need to "have a better body" because of the media.

      Lets face it, tattoos only reflect what is already there, but doesn't change a single thing. You have missed that point, and have seriously just offended wayyy too many people.

      What a "facepalm" moment.

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      zinkee 6 years ago

      luke 23:26 jesus says. these are the words which ispake unto you while i was yet with you.that all things must be fulfilled,which were written in the law of moses,and in the prophets and in the osalms,concerning me.. all christions jews muslims should be circumcised and not eat bacon plain as the sun.ps when you people talk about the prophets first learn ther proper names as i see it the bible hwo ever wrote it got the names rong. even god is rong.google aramaic lexicon to translate the word god in aramaic. jesus spoke hebrew and aramaic but aramaic is his mother tongue.peace

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      MeonlyoneIcanBe 6 years ago

      "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -I'm sorry, but I didn't see the words "whosoever except those that..." I'm pretty darn sure that meant everyone.

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      Jasmin 6 years ago

      The greatest triumphs of Satan was and still remains to be turning man one against the other (how dare anyone be as vain as to assume that they can understand and translate the mind and thoughts of God - that are not Jesus Christ, that is) second, Stealing the hope of mercy from those that are looking toward the light, but are not quite there yet - These people are many and making them feel as though all is lost and they are going to hell no matter what they do for a tattoo (or any other sin for that matter). How dare anyone tell me what MY GOD is thinking about me?! Hope of Mercy is NEVER lost, no matter what you do, did, or are destined to do. Satan wants you to lose hope because the moment you do you give him jurisdiction. I love God. I have a tattoo and unfortunately I have done worse things than get a tattoo, but I REFUSE to let self righteous, holier than thou people make me believe that I am now Satans'. I claim my right to mercy, I claim that no matter what I have done God loves me still. I love my children whether they become lawyers or murderers and I only birthed them; how much more so does God love me that he CREATED me. - and yeah, I can quote scripture in my favor also: "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

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      Hmm.. 6 years ago

      Well, I am not going to get into the debate over right or wrong but just want to state my opinion of the article. I believe what the writer stated to be true from a social aspect of modern America up until the 1990's. Before World War 2 I think that tats were probably considered a taboo in most cases (not including tribal art form, I think tribal art is another topic because tribal art form probably had various different meanings) but I think that sort of thinking started to slip when many in the armed forces started getting tats...remember the older men with those old green inked tattoos? Then came the skull and eagle tats that bikers and rock stars started sporting in the 1970's and 1980's. Then the 90's came, many young people started to get tats of more things than the stereotype portrayed, things like panthers, butterflies, symbols with meanings and such until the 2000's hit and I believe that then tats really became mainstream, popular and more artistic than ever...just watch LA Ink. Tats are so popular now that it seems like at least every other person has a tattoo now. Right or wrong? I guess that's in the eye of the beholder.....

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      mircea 6 years ago

      you freakin racist prolly live in some communist country at the end of the world, that you associate tattoos with criminals and others..

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      Jaz 6 years ago

      When was this article written? the 1800's ?

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      Unimpressed 6 years ago

      Simply put, and I know its wrong of me to say it this way, but I don't particularly give a damn. The author of this article can only be described as a Nazi.

      Oh, and please don't breed, spare the world your genetic malfunction.

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      Paul 6 years ago

      I am a Christian myself who follows Christianity - not this Fundamentalists version of Western "Churchianity" founded in bigotry.

      I just got a fish tattoo on my shoulder the other day to remind myself that I follow Christ and not neurotic abusers like the guy who wrote the article.

      I've been around long enough to know and spent enough time around different denominations and pretentious so called "believers" to make this assertion - " I think this guy more than likely is a sexual offender or wife beater". Anyone who blogs pure out of context old religious law to make a modern point and oppress is a total control freak who more than likely does other things to hurt people other than condemn them and shame them on the Internet.

      What are we to do with him? Pray for the poor soul! After all we are called to pray for lost religious souls who have zeal with no substance, and to pray for our enemies.

      This man loves contention - he himself is mentally ill. He needs our love.

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      Mikehk 6 years ago

      By this threads argument, the chapel that Leonardo adorned with ink is a sin

      Author,

      Spreading false teachings is akin to a grave sin....scare tactics that keep people in unhealthy fear of God....is also a sin. You are a false 'wanna be' teacher, who distorts

      Why and what message is how God would judge.... Not the mere fact of having a tat

      Btw....try a new book for a change.... I think it's called The New Testiment (then you'll see you no longer have to sacrifice you sheep)

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      Dustin Kennedy, Ph.D 6 years ago

      I'm a Clinical Psychologist, and there is absolutely no correlation between having tattoos and having a mental disorder. Also, homosexuality is not a mental disorder. It's been proven to be inherited genetically. This hub is grossly oversimplified.

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      Noelle 6 years ago

      One question: if the Old Testament is still valid, are you Christians still expected to stone your disobedient children>

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      AngelaTMadden 6 years ago from Luzerne, Pennsylvania

      Really?? How wonderful your life must be that the thing you find so abhorrant, the thing you feel you must tell the world, shout from the mountainside, is that tattoos are bad?? GROW UP and get some real problems. If you don't want a tattoo, DON'T GET ONE, but don't stand on your soap box and yell about other peoples way of expression. For most people, tattoos have NOTHING to do with religion. Ridiculous.

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      jayjay 6 years ago

      If you made a gift for a loved 1 that you put all your heart into, to make the most beautiful n thoughtful of gifts, to not watch them enjoy it but to watch them slowly destroy it day by day until it was gone, how would you feel?

      Now think of the gift of life you are given by the big man upstairs, God and the many ways that we take chances with it.

      Whether it be thrill seeking for another adrenaline rush, using any drug for recreational use, smoking which is said to be the slow suicide this is one where we know we are damaging ourselves, over indulgence of alcohol when was the last time you made a good decision while intoxicated, daily unhealthy diet choices with no concern for your health and the many others that can be prevented.

      Now, just be cause we have all dabbled in at least 1, if not more or all, doesn't mean we're evil or haters of God. Nor does this mean that God hates us, what it does mean is we are not following Gods word. Let's not fret, this is not the end for us imperfect sinners.

      For most people they may just disregard any of this and think if I am not harming anyone just let me be. But they are harming someone...themselves 1 of Gods children. What is 1 to do?

      Pray, pray for help in making the right decisions, pray for forgiveness of your wrong decisions, pray for the strength to begin/keep doing what God wants us to do, have daily conversations with God, He is our creator and friend, give him thanks for everything you have that really matters.

      1 thing I do know, there is only 1 true religion. We all know which 1 that is...right...right hello doesn't anyone know? Nope, but a lot think theirs is....

      I will always try to do my best for God, even when I falter I will do my best to get back up and keep on trucking for the big guy upstairs.

      "it is better to keep your mouth shut and let them think you are a fool, than open it and remove all doubt"

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      Cassandra Mantis 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia

      Oh dear, I am not one bit impressed by this hub. Everyone is entitled to have their opinion, but this hub is purely an opinion piece.

      I just can't swallow the core argument that people with tattoos can be equated with the things you mentioned. There is no evidence. It simply plays to the audience.

      I know people with tattoos, and none are anything like what you describe or claim. The core assertion in here is based almost entirely on just one thing - fear. Fear is a weapon, and can breed ignorance. I am a christian and I find this sadly disappointing. If Christianity is to teach us anything, it has to be first taken seriously and not be reduced to a joke, and subject to spurious claims. Otherwise people will just react accordingly.

      Try putting an opinion survey on the site, so people who agree or disagree can have a vote on it. That will sort things out soon enough. However, I think you won't bother. And as for your other hubs, and my chances of reading them, I too simply won't bother. When I saw the facebook votes, I thought reading this would teach me something. I was mistaken. Thank you.

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      littlebitofloveplease 6 years ago

      @Pratonix

      You have taken quite a verbal onslaught here Pratonix, definitely ruffled some feathers and I like that you can stand up and say that is what I believe, shows some conviction.

      I am non religious, I have tattoos, I listen to punk music, I drink quite heavily sometimes, I take drugs now and again, I swear, I surf and I probably do a lot more that may offend you that I dont even realise.

      Now we could be 2 people somewhere on this planet that resent each other because of our views. OR, and I'm just throwing this out there, we could be 2 people who have different opinions who are willing to discuss our feelings and opinions openly without feeling like we are having to defend our own. If you have grievances with someone elses view point it is because you have not the mental capacity to engage with them. You are not confident enough with your own beliefs to agree to disagree.

      There is no need and indeed no time in this world of ours, which is struggling to hold us all, to have petty grievances with your fellow humans. Appreciate what we have around us and why not put our energies into helping future generations to enjoy what we have.

      Just a thought, and if you want t try something spiritual....go learn to surf! It will change your life!

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      blackhatworld 6 years ago from Belize

      Hello:

      I Voted your Hub up and said it was awesome. If you get chance stop by my Hub too.

      Thanks,

      Diamond Dave

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      Alex 6 years ago

      As soon as I saw that there was even the slightest hint of religious belief systems attached to this article I skipped down here. Get a grip. Stop believing that rot. Enjoy life. And let other people do what they want as long as they're not harming anyone else.

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      Louis Fourie 6 years ago from Johannesburg, South Africa

      Job 11:3 Will your idle talk reduce men to silence? Will no one rebuke you when you mock?

      Jer 5:14 Therefore this is what the Lord God Almighty says: "Because the people have spoken these words, I will make my words in your mouth a fire and these people the wood it consumes.

      Psa 35:16 Like the ungodly they maliciously mocked; they gnashed their teeth at me.

      Ecc 5:2 Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few.

      Deu 32:29 If only they were wise and would understand this and discern what their end will be!

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      mikehk 6 years ago

      ...Jesus himself was not proud of those marks...he even showed them off to make a point.

      meant to say:

      ...Jesus himself WAS proud of those marks...he even showed them off to make a point.

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      besides...if my body is a temple....It SHOULD BE ADORNED on the outside to indicate what you will find on the inside.....(never saw a temple that wasn't adorned on the outside....God is very specific about adorning his holy of holies)... and the marks on Jesus are indicative of his life's journey...

      haircuts, tattoos, and other adornments.....are ONLY prohibitted based on the intended message/content and not by the mere act of having them done...

      All of God's commandments are based on content and message...and he trusts that we will use good judgement in applying his commands...(otherwise, the Bible would only be about 10 pages long...and we wouldn't need to understand, cause we wouldn't need to use judgement..just blindly obey).

      The writer of this thread would say tattoos are a sign of moral decay...

      suppose my tattoo says: love Jesus with all your heart...

      ...yeah....I'm just a demon leading the sheep astray (sheep that are generally branded to show who their owner is)...

      the writer of this thread has some attachment issues I think, that cause him to find solid and safe perameters with which to live his life safely...in a narrow tube of ignorance I like to call 'the hollow TP tunnel of misinformation...two such TP tubes adorn his eyes like Star Wars inspired blinders...so he can only see what he wants...not what is...haha...just kidding man, don't cry...