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Why Article Spinning Software Is A Complete Waste Of Time

Updated on July 17, 2010

Why Article Spinning Software Is A Complete Waste Of Time.

Article spinners are tools that take one article and attempt to create, or spin, hundreds of unique articles based on the original. Well, that’s what it says on the box, but does article spinning really work?

Why Spin Articles?

First of all let’s examine why you might want to create multiple versions of an original article. If you syndicate articles your goal might be to submit unique articles to each article site in order to escape Google’s duplicate content penalty. However, since Google have publicly stated there is no duplicate content penalty, article spinners and article spinning would seem to be a complete waste of time.

For the unscrupulous, article spinning could offer the opportunity to steal the hard work of others and change it in order to pass it off as their own. In truth, article spinners are not very good this.

Article Spinning And Reader Perception

Before getting into the technical reasons why article spinning is a complete waste of time, consider the effect that badly spun articles could have on the reader and their perception of your company or the products you are trying to promote. Imagine the frustration of finding multiple search results that are essentially the same, the tiles might differ slightly and a few words in each paragraph might be altered. Not only will the searcher, who is presumably a prospective customer, increasingly feel you are wasting their time with each discovery of another spun document, they will quickly become aware that you are deliberately spamming them.

Articles that are syndicated without change retain the same title and often the same description. This lets the searcher skip a duplicate result rather than being force fed the same material over and over. Search engines calculate the uniqueness of a document programmatically, humans don’t, by simply changing a few words here and there you will not dupe the human reader.

Article Spinning - What Do The Article Directories Think

I have now had the opportunity to ask some of the people behind the biggest and best known article directories what they thought of article spinning. Here is Guna Seelan of www.submitinme.com had to say on the subject:

“A blog or website that takes a feed from a particular category of ezinearticles and a couple other article sites might become filled with spun articles which will eventually force the blog owner to cancel his syndication from multiple directories.”

“An article that is spun 25 times and submitted to ezine alone will create a big issue in the future and is highly unethical. This will kill the purpose of Article Directories and will mark the death of them. As thousands of articles are submitted every day, it will be next to impossible for even ezinearticles to monitor the spun articles.”

Guna makes two very interesting points. I find it worrying that a product supposedly designed to help with the distribution of articles might hurt the sites and resources that it depends on.

Mel Strocen of www.goarticles.com also commented:

“I expect that as long as article marketing is effective for acquiring traffic and backlinks, article spinning will remain a problem.”

I understand that many authors use Article Spinning to rewrite and reposition their own work in order to escape duplicate content filters. However, it’s my experience that syndicating the same article, untouched and un-spun, produces the results I need by way of achieving rankings and passing link juice.

Article Spinning and Stop Words

Stop words are extremely common words that search engines ignore when indexing pages, calculating relevancy and when interpreting a search query prior to pulling pages from their indices. By simply switching stop words for example ‘this’ to ‘those’ will make no difference to the way a search engine views a page.

This is obviously a very simple example but when you consider that on average 40% of the words in any document are stop words it illustrates that Google will only consider approximately 60% of any document when calculating how unique it is is. Also consider that in order to create documents that are readable, even those created by article spinning, this percentage of stop words has to be maintained.

Below is a comment I recently received on a blog post regarding article spinning and stop words:

  • I have tried out Jetspinner, and manually selecting the words such as "Some", "Many", "several" to replace "those" as in "those people". So one sentence becomes 3 sentences starting with "some people", "many people", "several people".

Unfortunately, this is not the case; ‘some’, ‘many’, ‘several’ and ‘those’ are all stop words so absolutely no benefit would be gained. In this case one sentence remains one sentence.

Article spinning cannot address this problem and in-fact may make things worse. Article spinning is a weak attempt to game search engine algorithms and as such should be used with care if used at all.

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      Arshad 2 years ago

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      effepremi 4 years ago

      When i helpful to get high on existence nevertheless as of late We've accumulated the amount of resistance.

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      Website Developers UK 4 years ago

      In order to get good results in SERP software won't be able to help in any case. So better take time and write original article and publish it.

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      Peter Hoggan 5 years ago from Scotland

      This means the article or page has been filtered from the results not that it has been penalised in any way. There is a big difference between a penalty and a filter. The host crowding filter for example works so that hundreds of pages don’t get returned from the one website, only the most relevant. This is the filter you are referring to.

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      Stavros 5 years ago

      Unfortunately for the writer of this article, the ENTIRE thing is wrong, and thus completely pointless, which is pretty ironic.

      To quote the writer, "If you syndicate articles your goal might be to submit unique articles to each article site in order to escape Google’s duplicate content penalty. However, since Google have publicly stated there is no duplicate content penalty, article spinners and article spinning would seem to be a complete waste of time."

      If Google told you that they don't have a duplicate content policy, then how wold you explain this notice at the bottom of every single Google Search Result page?

      "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 30 already displayed. If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included."

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      AlexD 5 years ago

      Peter, I don't agree with Guna. I am an article writer, and I use a spinner to spin my own work. I do this, because I know that Google will penalize my own sites that I write for, if the content is the same. I don't see anything wrong with spinning your own content, and giving yourself credit for writing it to begin with.

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      Martin from The Entrepreneur Club 5 years ago

      I have used article submitters and spinners in the past. However upon reading into the Google Panda update, using this type of software is not going to be beneficial to your website / blog.

      Google Panda aims to eliminate spun articles from search.

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      shingokko 5 years ago

      Very useful, thanks! I've tried article submissions but so far I find that it's a lot of effort for very little benefits.

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      shohelrana 5 years ago

      really it is very important topic for article writer

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      leros003 5 years ago from Orlando, FL

      This is a great debate. As someone that works for a pr agency, I can guarantee they are a waste.

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      Haze 5 years ago

      I agreed. Article spinning will not work for Google if the purpose is just for backlinks. Google PhD definitely can detect such by using similar artificial intelligence. So, don't waste your time for it.

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      Peter Hoggan 5 years ago from Scotland

      My apologies Eazy20, my comment was not in response to you.

      I suppose when we have to write and distribute multiple articles on the same subject we are manually "spinning" our knowledge and understanding of the subject. I just don't see the need for software that removes creativity and original thinking from the process.

      I prefer to write individual articles that talk about individual aspects or benefits rather than churning out rehashed versions of the same article time and again.

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      Peter Hoggan 5 years ago from Scotland

      If article spinning worked I would never be able to rank for the term. It’s kind of obvious really, even to a complete idiot.

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      Kyle 5 years ago

      Hey easy20,

      That means you don't know how to spin properly...

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      Kyle 5 years ago

      You are completely and utterly wrong in virtually every aspect of this article.

      You must spin at the paragraph/sentence/synonym level if you want spinning to be remotely effective. Obviously you are only acknowledging the lazy people that copy/paste an article into a spinner and hit "replace". You think it doesn't work/wont make it into an article directory/is a bad user experience because you think all spun content is full of bad grammar. Well my friend, I GUARANTEE YOU that you read spun content every week and dont even pick up on it because its done RIGHT.

      A typical 750 word spun article will take me close to 8 hours to complete...but I can backlink my site thousands of times over the next few months with quite a high indexing rate. I will never get denied from article directories because my article always makes complete sense every time...

      Your logic only applies to those who mash the replace button...not those who actually understand how to spin...

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      Mike 5 years ago

      Peter do you have a response to this Jonathan Leger ranking experiment on spun versus unspun content? http://www.jonathanleger.com/#

      The guy sells spinners so I know he has an incentive to show spinning content is more effective. I wonder if in your experiment you used the same content but linked using different words. Is that how you were able to get a good effect without spinning the content?

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      Jason 5 years ago

      There's no doubt in my mind that article spinner has it's place. Guns don't kill people, people kill. Just as another posted mentioned, if people are "evil" people will do "evil" with the tools at hand.

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      Rajan Singh Jolly 5 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar,INDIA.

      Hi Peter,couldn't agree more. Article spinners churn out sheer gibberish. Uniqueness in an article can only come when they are written in the writer's personal style. Spun articles just have replacements for words or the sentences are framed differently but I believe a human reader can easily spot the spun from the original.

      Thanks for sharing. Voted up and useful.

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      Allen 5 years ago

      Hello Peter,

      I am a cofused newbie... someone asked awhile ago: "Can I submit the exact same article to different directories?" I guess they wanted to know if Google would not penalize them for doing this, and this is what you meant by "syndication" I am working on my first site and plane to have multiple sites in health and wellness niches... can I copy the exact article(info) from one of my sites to another one of my sites without being penalized by Google. When time permits, I would really appreciate a reply. Thank you, Allen

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      Peter Hoggan 5 years ago from Scotland

      Chasuk, I couldn't agree more.

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      Chasuk 5 years ago

      Most authors who use spinning software barely know how to write. This poses a problem, as spinning software produces a sub-literate mishmash that the "author" is incapable of recognizing as crap.

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      cebutouristspot 5 years ago from Cebu

      It still serve it purpose but you still need to do some editing to make it read worthy.

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      Jester98 5 years ago

      I think spinning still severs a small purpose. There are a few services I use. I will usually take a few unique articles and spin then and submit to the services, but I will use many different anchor texts so I can just build a bit of variety to my link profile. Other then that I have a handful of aged article site accounts I maintain and only post quality unique articles to which is hands down better then 1000's of spun article link type stuff.

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      Brent 6 years ago

      Spinning articles is a great tool only if you do it manually and don't create gibberish.

      The proper way to do a manual spin is to spin every other word, spin every sentence, and also to spin every paragraph... and I personally recommend spinning the entire article (so there are two versions). This way you can have many unique versions that vary in actual words, sentence structure and paragraph structure.

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      Hot Article Spinner 6 years ago

      Interesting article

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      Pau Experto 6 years ago

      "consider the effect that badly spun articles could have on the reader and their perception of your company or the products you are trying to promote" I totally agree with this.

      Like Matt Cutts says sometimes: guess what? not everything in the world is about SEO. We don't have to forget that there are many other important things, like in this case the image we are giving of the company.

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      hoyce 6 years ago

      it is clear you have never really spun a nested article. a proper article compensates for n-grams, stop words and even unicoded stop words rotations read naturally while distributing unique content. additionally stop words are only "stop words" in "search". stop words are part of the "unique" audit and when google assigns n-grams to combinations of stop words - they must be spun.

      if you don't know what unicoded stop word rotation is, or n-grams. it's ok, a lot of people don't. i like your writing but i . . . can kind of tell your not intimate with the mechanics behind the process. that wasn't to offend, but i think it's transparent.

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      William Thomas 6 years ago from That Great Primordial Smash UP of This and That Which Gave Rise To All Beings and All Things!

      Wow! It looks like everybody and his pet parrot had something to say about this essay.

      Anyway, thank you for this informative analysis. You know, before I joined HubPages fifteen months ago, I had never heard of such a thing as article spinning. The practice seems to embody an interesting paradox.

      On the one hand the motivations seems to be precisely the same as athletes who take steroids, to enhance athletic performance. But from what I've been reading, spinning seems to noticeable always LOWER performance, and yet it persists. Odd.

      Take care.

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      bmukherjii 6 years ago

      I appreciate what you said in this post. So i voted this up

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      Refinancing Mortgage Rates 6 years ago

      Lets keep this short and sweet. Even after the Google Farmer update, spinning articles works good. Its a backlinking thing. Forget about quality and traffic.

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      doitex 6 years ago from Latvia

      Money = value. If you do work without adding value - do not expect money from it.

      What is value? When you help to people to solve their problems. Articles provides information how to solve problems - where to find products, solutions etc

      You can get the same piece of text and make new package for it - you can add some extra links, you can set up some new design. You can do a lot of things to add value to any existing text.

      From where you get sentences for your "own" articles? Your "original" articles? Thats right - you have read some book, you have read some news or watch TV or learned in scool or heard from some friend - all this information you packaged in "your" article. But content never is yours. Only packaging is yours :)

      From where I get idea about "value = money". From Greg Habstritt. He? From Napoleon Hill. He? From hundreds of millioners? They? I dont know.. You see - one idea but thousands of packaging.

      If you believe that by spinning text and spreading that 1 idea all around the internet is meaningfull and will help at least to 1 people to find solution - then YES, it is added value.

      If you are spinning articles because you just want to get quick easy-money and no other idea in your mind while you are doing that - then NO value is added. If your work is just for you - it wont be covered by money.

      You must love what you are doing and must be concern that it will benefit other people. If this idea is in your mind - no problems. Do spinning (but please no porno, narcotics ets). Spinn good things for people.

      If you feel guilty about what you are doing - don't spinn articles then. That means it's not for you.

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      Bläckpatroner 6 years ago

      I think google has made some sigificant changes lately in its way to handle article sites. It´s just a waste of time with article spinning.

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      Weber Genesis E320 6 years ago

      Now that google has all their new rules and are cracking down on all the article sites, is there any point in articles spinning? (is there any point in putting articles in so may article directories?)

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      michal 6 years ago

      Like everyone, I want my original article to rank and that is why I'm posting in so many other magazines (for back links)

      1- Do I actually have to change an article to keep ranking in Google (can I just put the same article in 10 directories?)

      2- If I do it manually, what sort of words do i have to switch? how much?

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      mike 6 years ago

      Things have moved on since this page was originally created. I go along with more recent comments. The best spinners are semi automatic and do a great job of easing the burden of spinning to produce lucid, unique articles in the hundreds.

      Why bother? Well although each directory article carries little weight, they can add a great deal to your overall link profile combined with other link sources.

      I use sentence level and word level spinning and submit to blog networks and directories and they do make a big difference when combined with other methods. Just don't totally rely on them.

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      sleeping bags 6 years ago

      sir your Article Spinning is not just spitting out unreadable and meaningless gibberish to the readers, it is much more than that. Replacing a word with synonyms is what many people think when they think about an article spinner.iphone 3gs cases

      sleeping bags

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      free backlink 6 years ago

      I totally agree with you guys, article spinner will not work completely 100% effective to conveying and attracting readers, especially customers. Some how, some way it is good for SEO performance. for example, you are not good at writing, and the customer asks you to get his keyword to the top page of google for 3 weeks. How can you do it without submitting new articles to article website for link juice. For me, it is not perfect, but article spinner will work for someone who knows how use it efficiently.

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      Article Rewriter Software 6 years ago

      I hated having to manually check all the words and trying to add words was a pain in the butt. Didn't work out for me. I gave up on it. Too much work for too little return.

      Here's my review of Matt Callen's Rapid Rewriter. It's an article rewriter, not a "spinner".

      http://articlerewriter911.com

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      wordtothewiser 6 years ago

      Spinners will never work. Robots will never spin words as efficiently, eloquently, or as understandably as a human can.

      Here is a link to my video focusing on one particular product called article marketing robot...Enjoy!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUAA9Keb3qA

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      Zach 6 years ago

      Guys, Article Spinning is not just spitting out unreadable and meaningless gibberish to the readers, it is much more than that. Replacing a word with synonyms is what many people think when they think about an article spinner. As many have pointed out that it is an art of spinning sentences, phrases and paragraphs to create robust and unique articles. That's right and it is not at all a lazy man's option, you need to do a lot of hard work to create good quality spun articles.

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      Dan 6 years ago

      Spinners are not a waste of time or money or effort. With a good spinner software and some work you can get hundreds of unique articles using one master article.

      I usually get 60-70% uniqueness without affecting the reader.

      And with a good article submitter which allows spin titles, article body, keywords and resources you will have hundreds of different articles with different backlinks.

      As foir stealing other people content. You don't have to do it. I just buy the article and after that I spin it.

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      Hawaii Rehab Guy 6 years ago

      I am continuing to look for solutions for the large amount of content we require. It's a tough job, and employing 20 or so people is definitely our of the question.

      Maybe one day someone will come up with something so I can sleep at night and not endlessly be writing.

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      mbartine 6 years ago

      Peter - are you still using 1waylinks.net? I'm considering getting it, but I suspect that tools can become less effective over time if they're in any kind of gray area with Google.

      Thanks for this informative Hub! - Mac

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      Splice Web Design 6 years ago

      Great article - and an informative series of comments. I've been considering article spinning to submit distinct articles to each article site - writing the initial one, then posting a variation for each site.

      From your comments, this is not likely to be more beneficial than just posting my original - is this correct?

      I am being put off writing articles, as it can take some time to write one, and then within a week I find dozens of badly mauled copies floating around with no accreditation or links - it's galling that so many sites think it's fine to just use content without doing the very simple steps of leaving a link to the original.

      Jonathan: Splice Web Design: http://www.SpliceMarketing.co.uk

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      lol please 6 years ago

      Article spinnig and submission does work. I have seen it work over and over again for multiple sites I own for keywords over 15,000 searches/month. First off dont steal people's content. Write your content (kiss my ass not sharing that secret with you). Second make sure your spins are under 60% different. Screw you guys I dont feel like typing it all, I'll just let you figure it out on your own hahah...

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      Norj 6 years ago

      Certainly article spinning is a waste of time and it tends to divert the intention of the original article that you are writing. It is similar to copy and paste cycle but the difference is that you use dictionary to change a certain word or words in order for it to become unique article.. So why spinning articles more than 25 blogs?

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      TopUniverse 6 years ago

      You are absolutely right. Article spinning is a complete waste of time. Most internet marketers fails in their effort to earn money by way of article spinning.

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      Victoria 6 years ago

      I believe article spinning is a waste of precious time. I prefer to outsource article than to waste a whole lot of time spinning article

      Keep in mind others might have spinned the same content and use the same synonyms.

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      Article Spinning 6 years ago

      While I agree that article spinning software is the worst creation ever, proper article spinning... done manually, can make a huge difference in your seo efforts.

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      John  6 years ago

      As an article directory site owner, I do receive some of the worse spun articles I've ever seen. It is possible to spin articles so that they do read correctly, you just have to take the time to add the correct words. Some people don't care, they put the dollar first instead of their reputation.

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      Abraham 6 years ago

      By the way I don't delete the articles from my article directory because they are spun but because they are gibberish.

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      Abraham 6 years ago

      I run an article directory and delete large number of spun articles every day. They are a menace.

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      James112 6 years ago

      Article spinning and submitting are a waste of time in my opinion. Not a real waste of time when thinking of seo but it doesn't add any value to you, your message, your site and also the big brains in Google are not very fond of it too.

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      nell79 6 years ago from United States

      I didn't even know that this kind of software existed until I read this article (the title caught my attention). Seems like something I would stay away from anyway.

      Still on the fence about duplicate material....

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      BBC Web Hosting 6 years ago

      I think article spinning is not a good way to generate a new content, because nowadays there are many writers, that write a fresh article for you with a cheap price!

      so its better to write new articles instead of spinning!

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      Slin 6 years ago

      Yeah, i've tested around a bit, really no difference between spinning content and not.

      I can get two articles at separate directories with the same content indexed just as easily as 2 heavily spun articles.

      Why anyone would think different is beyond me.

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      greg 6 years ago

      I have just a quick question. my blog is based off blogged information from bigger blogs, I see the info, I re-write it, and then submit it and source it, wouldn't article spinning help me, at lease speed things up? also, i blog for my own personal blog, as well as I am paid to blog for someone else, and the two blogs have one shared category of information, wouldn't article spinning help me avoid breaking intellectual property rights of information I wrote myself, but belong to someone else? I'm not concerned with duplicate content filters, and I'm not concerned with spamming, i just need to find twos to make blogging go faster for me, so that I can earn more money, while focusing more on school work, I'm not trying to spin 100 articles out of one, only 2 articles out of 1 that someone I already re-post from normally, has written.

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      Greatar4 6 years ago

      Well, if your spend time spinning your articles it is going to work.

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      Tom_Radford 7 years ago from London

      Pow! So glad to see this worked. I've tried spinning and, to be honest, it's really boring and the end results end up being less and less like the original article which I painstakingly phrased in the first place. Down with evil spinners! Great stuff!

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      Jenyy 7 years ago

      Like I said, I previously said, article spinning main purpose to create hundreds of articles from a seed article. Why is this good? What is its purpose? Main reason why article was developed was to avoid duplicant content. Not duplicant on blog sites specifically, however for article directories, bookmark, etc. This saves a lot of money in the SEO business. Now you can do linkwheels with just one seed article. You don't have to buy 15 unique articles from a writer no more. Moreover, Quality is indeed important, and it the best article spinning application that is trying to improve the readability, and efficiency of article spinning. Now with the best spinner, llama spin, and content professor users can now spin articles with a user generated thesaurus database, which makes spun articles have more readability and uniqueness. So is article spinning a waste of time? No - It's a smarter and better way of gaining quality content with saves money for your SEO business. Quality shouldn't be much of a factor anyway when you are submitting your article to a bunch of directories, just as long as their readable. And that is up to the article spinner choosing the right variations, not the article spinner application itself.

      Article spinners can only make your article spinning experience easy and more efficient. Last but not least, you said "As i keep pointing out this article currently ranks extremely well for 'Article Spinning' outranking every single promoter and developer of article spinning software on Google for the term. The ranking has been achieved by using 100% duplicate content not spun content." I don't think you realize how your so called "duplicant content" is unique with the many contribution of my comments, as well as many others. It's like a forum with a copied and paste quote. Soon after, a bunch of forum members start adding content to it with their own opinions and such. The forum post that was copied and paste originally would probably rank high in the search engine with all the added content from users. And if the discussion is good, some members might even link it to their sites, which might have high pr. And bam another factor in SEO that’s increasing your rankings. I hope you fully understand. Therefore, please don't make it seem like this page with your above comment proves duplicant doesn't exist, or individuals don't have to work as hard when it comes to SEO and duplicate content. That's not right. O wells, I think I’m done with this page. Overall article spinning is excellent. It not only beneficial to creating unique content, but can open new business opportunities for you as well. You can probably sell spun articles and make a profit off of it. Article spinning was developed for a reason, and solved a solution for many, especially in article marketing -- The most effective and used Seo strategy in today’s online marketing world. There are so many ideas to what you can do with an article spinner. Don’t be close minded and judge so quickly, and say its waste of time. I strongly disagree!

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      Jenny, when I publish an article it is vital that it either features heavily on a benefit that is specific to my business or helps differentiate it from ditect competitors. PLR is highly generalized and is written by people who have no experience of my business or commercial goals. Why on earth would I use or even take the time to rewrite something that is wholly unrepresentative of what I do. It’s easier and much more effective to write an original article from scratch.

      As far as thinking out of the box is concerned, if you think that spinning PLR content fits the bill it shows just how little value you place on the intended reader and if you are doing it commercially how little value you place on the business.

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      littleman, I think the swampland is between your ears. Firstly I do not promote putting duplicate content on your own site, only for syndication. Does it work? As i keep pointing out this article currently ranks extremely well for 'Article Spinning' outranking every single promoter and developer of article spinning software on Google for the term. The ranking has been achieved by using 100% duplicate content not spun content.

      Thanks for the laugh, it’s been a long hard day and your post was the perfect release.

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      PennyPR 7 years ago

      Interesting that the enthusiasm for article spinning seems to be in direct proportion to the lack of spelling and grammar!

      It is not surprising that people can easily tell when a machine takes up the pen.

      There are linguistic researchers with software that can tell whether two pieces of text have been written by the same person. They can do that because we all display slightly different patterns in the way we use language. Our writing styles are therefore as unique as a fingerprint.

      We all have our own special voice.

      Even with natural language filters, I would guess that this multiplicity of linguistic variation will be very hard to emulate.

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      littleman 7 years ago

      IF YOU BELIEVE THIS GOEBBELSIAN, BOLDFACED LIE "However, since Google have publicly stated there is no duplicate content penalty", CONTACT ME RIGHTAWAY, I HAVE FEW ACRES OF SWAMPLAND IN LOUISIANA THAT IS JUST MADE FOR YOU. AND I WILL SELL IT FOR REEEAAAL CHEAP. DUPLICATE CONTENT WILL, AND I MEAN WILL SINK YOUR SITE. HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THIS ARTICLE IS 100% 24 KARAT KRAP. AVOID DUPLICATE CONTENT AT ANY COST. THE PROBLEM WITH ARTICLE SPINNERS IS THAT 99% OF THEM PRODUCE CONTENT THAT READS LIKE A CHIMPANZEE WROTE IT, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH USING ARTICLE SPINNING AS A WEAPON IN YOUR SEO ARSENAL, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE SOFTWARE YOU PICK TO SPIN YOUR ARTICLES IS AN UZI AND NOT A BLUNDERBUSS.. OMG, I CANT BELIEVE THE NERVE OF THIS ARTICLE..

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      Jenny Jonels 7 years ago

      Not all PLR content is crap. And i was just trying to make a point. What a mindset? You asked, "Can I ask, where do the articles come from that you spin?" Obviously, you seem to not think outside the box, so I answered your question. Whatever you may say, do or think of you can get content. Bottom line! And Yes I will spin PLR content for my article marketing efforts. I do it all the time to build backlinks and you know what, it is one of my best source of traffic beside adswaps. I'm no newbie, so please respect where I'm coming from.

      Note: The whole point of an article spinner is to create hundreds of new articles from a seed articles. Would you pay a ghost writer to write articles to a bunch of article directories. If you had the money, be my guess. A more productive way would be to spin the content, and make it unique. The readability is up to the person spinning the content, not the software. Because overall, you have control over your article. Machines/Softwares can't do everything. They can only increase productivity.

      -Jenny

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      Good Luck Jenny! Are you going to spin PLR content and post it on HubPages? I hope not, there is enough of that kind of crap here already.

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      Jenny Jonels 7 years ago

      I just seen the video. I think your question to Article Spinner is simple. That would be from PLR content. You can get that almost anywhere. Also, I found during the signup process, the website sends you to a free PLR resource to obtain PLR content. Overall, I think the spinner is good. I haven't really tested it for very long but has potentials.

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      Article Spinner, in your video you say that writing articles is a stonage tactic. Can I ask, where do the articles come from that you spin?

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      Article Spinner 7 years ago

      A good article spinner for free is http://www.contentprofessor.com

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      Dayton Ohio 7 years ago

      I am constantly writing articles etc... and have never spun an article. They look very goofy and never make sense. I have seen my articles spun from other people and it looks ridiculous!

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      Google filters duplicate content so if you put content on your own site that is also syndicated elsewhere you could see your own pages being filtered. As I keep pointing out, this page ranks very well for the term 'article spinning' and that ranking has been achieved by syndicating duplicate content.

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      Seanbo 7 years ago

      While I think article spinning results in crap articles all over the Internet and polluting the directories, I feel I MUST say, if you think the GOOG does not penalize you for duplicate content... think again! I have seen firsthand...

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      Stephen Crowley 7 years ago from Wales, UK

      there is a big difference between rewriting an article and spinning an article ,and this is where you need to start your views here. Do you want quality? Spinning is not the way, it is the lazy approach, and invites thousands of black hatters to spam the net. Rewriting an article that covers the same facts but may take a different viewpoint is fine. But spinning to try and fool the SEs, if you do this for your marketing, hate to tell you - YOU are the fool! Expect trouble - banned sites, banned from directories, get labelled as a black hatter and join the world of would-be marketers...

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      GuitarMan 7 years ago

      Some really great information here, In a way all this backlink madness is Googles fault. Everybody knows that the top 3 ranking is where the money is made, and in a healty commercial world its nothing wrong to try to aim for that position with your sites.

      Search engines have not really figured out how to rank sites in a good way. First it was all about on page seo and then it went to be all about of page seo.

      About spinning, It will always be possible to spin articles with a fairly good sticking rate way better time management than writing each article manually. Its just more so that these most commercial spinning tools are just plain crap. Internet has to be closed down as known to man if you want to stop spinning to work. It just that almost no one knows how to do this properly or have access to the creative tools that is needed.

      Then if its ethical or not that's also another question.

      In a way it might actually be good that there is a possibility to spin content. It might not be as good as standard articles. But this way others than just SEO company's their clients or famous people that don´t need to build backlinks can actually claim top rankings for decent competitive keywords.

      With the amount of links needed to compete these days. It would simply not be doable for average Joe with on his own or his small staff of writers.

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      Ivan Bayross 7 years ago from Mumbai / India

      Hi Peter,

      I'm very much a newbie at Hubpages and I've got an issue that I'd like to ask you about.

      What do you do when you copy / paste an article as is on a website or Blog you own into a hub you are creating?

      HubPages flags that pretty quickly as duplicate content. Hubpages also has its own penal system where the links placed on the Hub become No Follow. This is what I've read in the HubPages FAQ's.

      How then does link juice flow to your parent site, i.e. the site you've copy pasted content from?

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      CollegePrepU, there is no duplicate content penalty. Duplicate content will be filtered from results but will still pass link juice. I usually syndicate each article somewhere between 20 and 40 times. This is content that is specifically written to be syndicated so that none of the pages on my main website gets filtered i.e. it's substantially different. The link juice that comes back from 40 or so articles syndicated in this way far exceeds the link juice of one article and it makes ranking for target terms a lot easier.

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      CollegePrepU 7 years ago

      Hi...great Hub!

      You said: "However, it’s my experience that syndicating the same article, untouched and un-spun, produces the results I need by way of achieving rankings and passing link juice."

      Is this to say that you have used an unaltered article on more than one site, and haven't been penalized or flagged for duplicate content?

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      Albert Davidson 7 years ago

      This is quite informative. For some article directories though that delete articles more that 6 months old, it may still be worth doing article spinning. But I believe this should be done manually rather than automated by a software to ensure readability and value to the reader.

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      Hi Gavin, my experience is that you get some benefit for a while, two or three months maybe , then pages just seem to drop out if the index. Hope it doesn’t happen to you.

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      Gavin Boyd 7 years ago

      I have been trying out some tests recently and have come up with something that seems to work. As so many people have mentioned it article spinning does work if you use it correctly (if there is such a thing)! I used spin profit, it is not and automated service, you have to do all the hard work yourself.

      .First write a unique 400 word article

      .Place it in spin profit

      .use the special characters to split the article

      .Create 3 titles

      .Create 3 sub titles for each other heading

      .For every second sentence make two

      .change a word in every sentence

      .Spin 10 times

      .You have 10 articles that will pass Googles Shingle filters and duplicate content filters

      I have not long tried this out after trying other variables and this method worked best for SEO purposes. I got "hotels in Bristol" from 60th to 18th using this method.

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      Martin Capodici 7 years ago

      Peter, I think you might be misleading when you say "Since Google have publicly stated there is no duplicate content penalty..."

      On Google support (http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answe... it says that:

      "Google tries hard to index and show pages with distinct information."

      I interpret that to mean that Google aims to show non-duplicate results in SERPs.

      You probably won't be penalised for having the same text on your site in 2 places, especially if you follow their guidelines.

      But the same text copied to 2 different sites is unlikely to appear both in the top 10 of a search result as Google is aiming to provide distinct information there.

      There are some exceptions of course - I think Lyrics sites are an example. And pagerank will play a factor too.

      Anyway it's not as simple as you make it out to be, and perhaps the article spinners aren't "Snake Oil" after all ...?

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      DianeHughes 7 years ago

      I agree with JulieB. After seeing a demonstration on spinning, I felt a lump in the pit of my stomach that told me something just wasn't right.

      I could be wrong but I am not sure it is right for me.

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      JulieBMack 7 years ago from Colorado

      Glad to have found your hubs! I never really thought of doing this because it seems like cheating somehow and highly unethical. I write because I enjoy it. It seems if you are spinning articles, you may not be in the 'write' line of work!

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      Sleeping Bag 7 years ago

      I have been debating this article spinning software for a while and I think this article has done enough to put me off it. Thanks for saving me some money :)

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      Sylvie Strong 7 years ago

      Can I echo how obvious and unpleasant it is to read a spun article? It is like the other is flipping me the bird. When I hubhop I come across obviously spun hubpages with some regularity. I always flag them. If you can get backlinks by syndicating the same article then why go to the time and expense of spinning? All you will do is insult the reader that is unfortunate enough to find them.

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      Zak J 7 years ago

      Article spinning is really just a breed of black hat SEO, I would say as much as 80% of articles that I read have been spun in some form or another. It's a real shame for those that take the time to write the articles in the first place. The grammar in these SEO articles is often very poor and i hope Google eventually clamp down on this.

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      ZarkoZivkovic 7 years ago from Serbia

      I personally don't like article spinning, I used article spinners like Jet and ArticleQast and I got really good at it. In the end I could always tell which articles where spun, not just my own, but also spun articles from others. There is just the feeling that it's a bot who wrote them and search engines will pick up on them sooner or later, so I prefer to manually rewrite my articles when needed.

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      Eric, good to hear from you again, I am going to be in New Zealand later this year and would love to meet up with you.

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      Eric Graudins 7 years ago from Australia

      Hi Peter,

      Good to see that you're still on the job.

      Personally, I don't think that it will be too long before the current "best practice" of getting as many backlinks as possible will be useless.

      Remember that the use of backlinks from other sites became a major factor in Googles ranking algorithm because Google was not able to reliably determine the quality of a site from the on site content alone.

      (ie keyword stuffing, meta tag manipulation, etc.)

      It doesn't make sense to spend 5% of your time creating quality content, and 95% of time getting backlinks for it.

      But that's what people are doing nowadays, and have come to accept it as normal.

      But if you step back and think about what you're doing, its crazy.

      Current "best practice" encourages you to have hundreds (thousands?) of articles with links on a variety of sites pointing back to your "money page"

      Google's main aim is to connect searchers with what they are looking for.

      And with their advances in LSI, etc. I think that they could now do that just by looking at the content of a page and a site.

      And if that were to come about, all the garbage article directories and linking sites would instantly become useless.

      And spewing forth spun or unspun articles would become as useless as stuffing your page with keywords that are the same colour as the background.

      see https://hubpages.com/technology/SEO-Google-and-Bac for more along the same lines.

      regards,

      Eric G.

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      Rowland O'Connor 7 years ago

      The whole argument of "spinning" needs some common sense and perspective. Article "Spinning" is not a crime and many people already do it without even realising.

      I've bloged my thoughts at

      http://www.rowlandoconnor.com/2010/07/04/is-articl...

      Is it "wrong"? If done poorly, sure.

      Is it any less legitimate than sub contracting articles for re-writing. Hmm - questionable.

      On the duplicate content issue, for anyone that needs clarification look up "supplemental index" in Google.

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      O Danny Boy The The Spam The Spam Is Calling.

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      Dan Walter 7 years ago

      LOL LOL I wanted to check the date on this article because it seems to have been written for the LAST CENTURY. You obviously haven't heard of The Best Spinner by Jonathan Leger. Google for it and learn.

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      What Google say about syndicating duplicate content:

      # Syndicate carefully: If you syndicate your content on other sites, Google will always show the version we think is most appropriate for users in each given search, which may or may not be the version you'd prefer. However, it is helpful to ensure that each site on which your content is syndicated includes a link back to your original article. You can also ask those who use your syndicated material to use the noindex meta tag to prevent search engines from indexing their version of the content.

      http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answe...

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      Oli can you link me to anything said by google that defines duplicate content as spam.

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      thisisoli 7 years ago from Austin, Texas (From York, England!)

      According to Google they do not punish duplicate content, the punish Spam content. Which they then give one of the definitions as the same article or a spun article posted all over the internet.

      As you know I don't agree with duplicate content, however I think that you would have a lot more success with duplicate content than spun content, which I rarely see make the first page of google for any real keywords.

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      One of the easiest ways to distribute articles is through http://1waylinks.net/ its relatively straight forward and your nor restricted to linking from an authors box.

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      Susana S 7 years ago

      Hi again :) Can you recommend any article submitting software or do you do it all manually?

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      Susana S 7 years ago

      Ok I get it. You write a different article for the promotion. Makes perfect sense - thank you :)

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      Peter Hoggan 7 years ago from Scotland

      Susana, I am not particularly worried about how the duplicates rank it’s the page they point to that counts, the money page if you like. As long as the articles being syndicated are substantially different from the money page it’s not a matter of hoping the money page will rank it’s how quick will it rank.

      I usually syndicate each article to anywhere between 20 to 50 different article directories or blogs. For low competition keyphrases perhaps 2 articles each posted 50 times can be enough to secure a first page position. For more competitive terms I might drop the number of times I syndicate the same article to maybe 20 or so but write 10 or more articles to make up the numbers.

      Hope that makes sense.

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      Susana S 7 years ago

      Many thanks for replying Peter :) I thought as much, but I'm pleased to hear you confirm it for me.

      So when you publish duplicates of your work do you wait a while for the original to gain a foothold or just hope and pray, lol? I'm just thinking that I wouldn't want a duplicate that I'm *not* going to earn through to get to the top of the serps, while my hubpage/blog post or whatever is relegated to the dump.