thankyou for your prompt response, wychic. I spend three to four hours a night on charting and another two on medications, scanning and what not. that leaves about 8 hours of my twelve hour shift that i can offer to six patients, that is, if one of them do not go bad, then it is another hour of charting, and administrative stuff required. and leaves me with less time, also if i transfer a pt, then i get an admit. Sometimes i leave thinking the patients really were on their own tonight. also, it is the computer that my managers are looking at, not the care. So I will get in more trouble if i miss something in the computer, than i would if i miss something on a patient. sad but true.