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Mpc or Maschine | Maschine Vs Mpc (including Renaissance)
We all know the Akai Mpc is every legendary hiphop producer's favorite production tool Now with that being said most people that get into urban production end up mimicking their idol's production setup. Which just so happens to be the following
Akai Mpc 2000XL/Mpc 3000/Mpc 60
Triton/Motif or some other workstation
Hits can be made with anything, but its hard to believe that when people such as
Dr dre (mpc 3000)
Just Blaze (mpc4000)
DJ Premier (mpc 60)
Pete Rock (mpc2000XL)
Marley Marl (slips my mind right now)
J Dilla (mpc 3000)
All use an akai mpc one is inclined to think
“hey you know what,I need an mpc to get the same pro sound these guys are getting”
So guess what? They end up getting the akai mpc, learn it and they stand by it. Once they get the hang of it, they become stubborn, and wont use anything else, and I don't blame them.
Once you learn something in and out there isn't anything you can't accomplish. One thing I do hate is most mpc users swear up and down by it, they make others believe that it is a must have if you want to create quality music... far from the truth. Another bogus story mpc users will tell you is
“the mpc has a swing that can only be obtained on the akai mpc”
this is utter bull.
The akai mpc is a computer. it runs on an OS (operating system) granted versions of the mpc such as the 60/3000 (these are the older ones I've used) do have a timing issues (imperfections) which does give your swing and quantize a unique feel because its not perfect.
What these users don't understand is that you can get the same swing on anything you are using. The problem is, they don't know how so they claim it can't be done.
See production software and hardware is a lot like clothing. Every brand makes the same sizes much like all production tools have the same swing and quantize settings, but like clothing companies, every brand's size 9 isn't going to the same. So you might wear a 34/34 in south pole pants, but when you shop for the same size in Levi that 34/34 might not fit the same so you have to adjust.
It's the same with the mpc's swing. Their 66% swing isn't going to be the same as Reason's 66% you might have to push Reason to 68% to make it swing like the mpc is at 66% and vise versa.
Regardless of the slight adjustments are made the point you can get the same results. You just have to not be a closed minded f!@#tard.
The Famous Mpc Swing (it's All in the Ppq Guys)
Check out this video this guy explains PPQ in great detail. The only way to get the MPC SWING (as people call it) is to get a template of the MPC'S timing (On quantization) which is very very simple to obtain. They are floating all over the net, just do a google search
Native Instruments Drop Price Of Maschine
Native Instrument's Maschine is much like the akai mpc except better. Not only can it do the same thing the akai mpcs do, it does them faster! It's the 1st of it's kind... complete software and hardware integration that works seamlessly.
A lot of companies have tried to make something similar to the mpc by creating 16 pad midi controllers, but they were limited.
These pad controllers have features that the mpc has such as 16 level and note repeat oh oh and the 4 banks, but none of them truly allowed you to create music without having to look at the computer screen. You can work on the Maschine the same way you would work on the akai mpc. Everything listed below can be done from the unit without having to look at the computer screen.
I mean everything! You don't need to look at your computer screen ever. The Maschine can be used as a stand alone beat production unit or it can be used as a plugin, heck it can even be used as a host to host plugins.
See as the akai mpc can use rack instruments via midi the Maschine can do the same, and it can host vst plugins! Maschine can also load akai mpc project files and it contains more than 4 banks.
Chopping samples on Maschine is 100 times faster (I'm not exaggerating) on compared to chopping samples on the mpc (even the newer models). Ok let me be fair its 100 times faster than the older models and about 10 times faster than the newer models.
Update Note - The Mpc Ren uses plugins as well
Another great thing about the Maschine is it's a lot cheaper than the akai mpc(s) it runs around $300-$500 for the MK1/MK2 models. Your typical akai mpc ranges between $700 & $3000. Granted, you can get them cheaper from eBay, but can you really trust other owners?
I don't know about you, but I would hate to get a piece of gear that was owned by a smoker or a dirty mother f***er. The Maschine is even making some legendary producers put their mpcs on the back burner, they just can't keep up with the Maschine's speed and work flow.
Which producer's you may ask? Well, here is a small list of hit making producers that have crossed over
Justin Myracks Maschine Vs Mpc
Just to name of few there are others out there using it, but I'll let you do the research. Another great thing is you will no longer need floppy/zip disks to store your sounds. I've always hated disks; short shelf life, easy to destroy, and they don't hold much data either.
Not to mention, take ages to load especially if you're working with a zip disc with a sczi drive.
Enough of me yacking away, bottom line is.... Maschine is your best bang for the buck when it comes to music production especially if you are considering going the mpc route. If you need that hands on feel when producing music then the Maschine is for you hands down.
Maschine Vs Mpc 1000,2500,5000
Was going through a few of my comments when I came across this one. I think it's interesting because the reader claims It's a biased opinion considering I didn't compare any newer model MPC's well... truth is I never compared the older ones either (directly). I compared the entire brand as 1 and a few features of the older units. I can see how this may come off as biased, but the article was aimed at those who follow their idols (who typically use the older models anyway) But, I went ahead and added a headline so it could be found.
Akai has newer modeled MPC's aside from the classic units. There is an MPC 1000, 500 2500, 5000. Those machines are a lot faster and use than the classic models. They even have better storage options: SD cards and harrdives etc but they are still not as fast as maschine.
Look at the specs on processors in those units. I still have an Mpc 1000 and use it from time to time. It doesn't load faster than my Laptop nor does it chop/slice assign samples as fast as maschine. Even if it did load faster, it still processes audio SLOW compared to other options. Now if you want to throw JJOS into the mix you can (even though akai didn't create it). That OS made the newer MPCS better, but it's still not as fast
Just making it clear once again None of the newer modeled MPCS run as fast as maschine does.
PURCHASED MPC RENAISSANCE DEC 2012
Akai MPC Renaissance Problems
After all the shit talk and hype, Akai releases yet another inferior pos unit. I don't know what the problem is with this company. They had and have everything they need to release a quality product .....But WONT!
I waited before messing around with this unit because I know how HORRIBLE AKAI IS WITH SOFTWARE!
I waited a good 8 months, I figured this would give them enough time to fix minor issues. it's expected to have software glitches etc, but akai is known for just... not fixing them.
Here are some of the wonder features (Glitches/Errors) I'm running into with the new Mpc Ren
The Mighty Mpc Ren FREEZE - I love this feature, I'll be working on a track and just out of the blue, for no reason at all, the unit just FREEZES! I've had this happen at least 20 times, went online to see if there was a fix for this. Turns out I'm not the only one with this issue, oh... and there no fix (as of yet).
This issue has been fixed
Poor Search Browser - Native instruments got this down, in fact... Every application these days have the ability to keyword and tag search through your library. Cmon guys, it's 2013 keep up with the competition. They had YEARS of studying and over the should watching of what NI did to become success with their launch.
I know it's not a glitch, but cmon now!
MPC Renaissance Crash - I don't know where to begin here. All these software updates and this thing still crashes, I'm not even using plugins with it yet... this is just the BOX. I can just imagine what would happen if i were to use plugins (afraid to actually)
Granted it doesn't crash and freeze as much as it use to, but it's enough for me to pack this thing up until they fix it.
This still happens from time to time
Keep in mind, I'm using a Quad core macbook pro with 12 gigs of ran and running the new 1.5 Ren update.
A lot has been fixed in 1.5, still lacks some stuff, but Akai is getting their shit together
Mpc Ren Still Fails
The MPC Ren has been out for over a year now and it hasn't hasn't surpassed Maschine in sales... Why is this?
I'm not talking about sales IN TOTAL, that would be fair because maschine has been around longer.
But, if you look at the sales numbers its release until now vs maschine in the same time frame.... Maschine wins
Why is this if The Mpc is Better?
Akai is the originator of the look and feel and has just about every OLD supporter they could afford.. Still, what's going on here?
Maschine Studio vs Akai Mpc Renaissance
The Article that has MPC HEADS Raving - Maschine Vs Akai Mpc
Even Mpc heads on the Mpc forums are agreeing with this man's post, it's nuts.