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Updated on February 25, 2019
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James A. Watkins is an entrepreneur, musician, and a writer with three non-fiction books and hundreds of magazine articles read by millions.

Detroit Michigan

The story of the incredible rise and fall of Detroit Michigan is a lesson to us all about the results of Progressive Politics. Detroit Michigan was once the envy of the world, and the best place on this planet in which to live. Today it is a post-apocalyptic barren wasteland, which bears testimony to the failed policies of Progressive ideologies.

How could this happen? The answer to this question reveals the inevitable results for all of America should we cave in to a Progressive view of the world. Detroit Michigan has been ruled for fifty uninterrupted years by Progressive Liberal Democrats.

This article will investigate the causes of the decline into chaos of Detroit Michigan, and the implications to people the world over, but especially for Americans. The failings of Progressive Liberal ideas are not confined to Detroit, of course. Of the top ten cities in America for poverty, all of them have been administered by Progressive Liberals non-stop for an average of seventy years.


DETROIT AT NIGHT
DETROIT AT NIGHT
DETROIT SKYLINE
DETROIT SKYLINE

Detroit History


Detroit Michigan was founded as a fur trading village in 1701 by Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac of France. It is the only major U.S. City where Canada can be viewed by looking south. Detroit means "strait" in French, so named because the Detroit River links Lake Erie to Lake Huron.

Detroit was once the manufacturing center of the entire world. It also was the headquarters for Soul Music. Its nicknames are The Motor City and Motown. 100 years ago, it was called "The Paris of the West" for its splendid architecture and fine mansions.

5,700,000 people live in the Greater Detroit Area today. The city of Detroit itself has lost over half its population since 1950, when it was the 4th most populous city in America. Today, Detroit ranks 11th among U.S. cities for population.

FORT DETROIT
FORT DETROIT
DETROIT MICHIGAN
DETROIT MICHIGAN
DETROIT MICHIGAN 1900
DETROIT MICHIGAN 1900
DETROIT 1916
DETROIT 1916

The Rise of Detroit

 

Henry Ford began building automobiles in 1896 in Detroit.  At that time, the city boasted 275,000 residents.  Within ten years, Walter Chrysler, the Dodge Brothers, and the founder of what would become General Motors also set up plants in Detroit to build motorcars.  By the 1920s, Detroit would have over 1,000,000 citizens, and the city reached nearly 2,000,000 in 1950. 

Henry Ford is the "Father of the Assembly Line."  His ideas about manufacturing changed the world.  Ford broke down the building of automobiles to where each of his workers would only do simple tasks that anyone could do.  His ideas were copied for the manufacture of nearly every product.  This opened up employment for millions of people with no education or skills.

Henry Ford attracted workers to Detroit after he announced in 1914 that he would pay double the prevailing wages for unskilled labor.  It was Ford who instituted the 40-hour work week when many people in America were working 80 hours a week.  He also designed his factories with huge windows so his workers would be bathed in sunlight. 

Henry Ford was adamantly opposed to labor unions, which were created by Communists, because labor union leaders advocated violence and workplace disruptions.  Ford correctly saw that in the long run, labor unions would hurt the manufacturers who provided jobs for the unskilled and illiterate, and thereby hurt the workers they proposed to help. 

DETROIT MICHIGAN FACTORY
DETROIT MICHIGAN FACTORY
FORD MOTOR COMPANY RIVER ROUGE PLANT
FORD MOTOR COMPANY RIVER ROUGE PLANT
DETROIT RIVER ROUGE PLANT STRIKE 1949
DETROIT RIVER ROUGE PLANT STRIKE 1949
DETROIT MICHIGAN 1951
DETROIT MICHIGAN 1951
FORD MOTOR COMPANY RIVER ROUGE PLANT
FORD MOTOR COMPANY RIVER ROUGE PLANT
DETROIT IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS
DETROIT IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS
DETROIT 1950S
DETROIT 1950S
DETROIT MICHIGAN IN THE 1950S
DETROIT MICHIGAN IN THE 1950S
DETROIT 1960S
DETROIT 1960S

United Auto Workers

The United Auto Workers Union was formed in 1935 by John L. Lewis, who was backed by pro-Soviet Communists. Prior to this, automobile manufacturers had already lifted the standard of living for unskilled workers to the highest in the world.

The United Auto Workers immediately set about to create strife in the workplace, and created a mindset among workers that the companies they worked for were their enemies. Union agitators called factory workers "slave labor." Their ultimate aim was to topple Capitalism.

Barely one year after the United Auto Workers was formed; strikes were shutting down the places of employment for millions of people. In nearly every case, the union prevailed over the employer, who then had to pass on the higher labor costs to its customers. Its customers had no real alternative suppliers for automobiles until the 1970s. The steady increase in labor costs created phenomena known as "sticker shock" for buyers of automobiles.

The power of labor unions derived from the Wagner Act of 1935. This legislation was passed by Progressive Democrats who dominated American politics at that time and for decades after. The Progressive Democrats saw labor union members as a potentially enormous voting block that would perpetuate their power. The unions would extract "dues" from all workers, which would then be funneled to the Democratic Party. In the 2008 elections, $400,000,000 was contributed to Democrats by labor unions.

In 1937, there were 4,740 union strikes in America that involved 1,861,000 workers and resulted in 38,000,000 days of work lost to American industries. In 1945-1946, labor unions struck 9,735 companies, involving more than eight million workers and costing American industry 154 million work days.

In 1946, the UAW struck auto manufacturers demanding a 30-hour work week—for 40 hours pay. Then started a pattern whereby the UAW would strike one car manufacturer each year, which would then lose sales to the other carmakers until the strike ended in capitulation to the union.

In 1950, the UAW strikes gained the incredible pension plans that have the United States in such economic trouble today. That same year the union demanded and won employer provided health care, which is at the root of today's health care crisis.

By the 1970s union workers in the auto industry were costing companies $70 per hour. Worse than the exorbitant pay for simple work were the union work rules that hampered companies, and encouraged sloth in the workplace, and thus produced shoddy workmanship. The cars coming out of Detroit were poorly made.

The Japanese then offered superior automobiles, made with precision, and available at a far lower cost. They took 20% of the market in the 1970s. The Japanese workers could make the same number of cars with half as many workers. General Motors wanted to copy the Japanese method, including some automation; but the United Auto Workers response was that GM could cut its number of workers in half only if they continued to pay all of them, including the idled workers.

Even in view of this new reality, the United Auto Workers continued to strike in the 1990s, costing American carmakers billions of dollars. By this time, each car cost an extra $1500 to cover health care costs alone for current and retired employees.

The United Auto Workers union also drove the bicycle manufacturing industry out of America by 1980. Countless American companies were forced by exorbitant labor costs to move their facilities to "Right to Work" states, or out of the United States altogether, in order to compete in the global marketplace.

In 2009, President Obama, beholden to labor unions for his election, gave General Motors $58,000,000,000 from American taxpayers to keep it alive. The company that once produced 5,000,000 automobiles each year, now barely sells 2,000,000. The U.S. government took the majority of GM stock, making the government a manufacturer for the first time ever. This is in response to the untenable wages, benefits, and pensions won by the United Auto Workers over the years.

Five million people moved from Closed Shop [union dominated] states to Right to Work states from 2000 to 2008.


1967 RIOTS IN DETROIT
1967 RIOTS IN DETROIT
FIREFIGHTERS PUT OUT THE FIRES IN 1967 DETROIT
FIREFIGHTERS PUT OUT THE FIRES IN 1967 DETROIT
DETROIT RIOTS OF 1967
DETROIT RIOTS OF 1967
BURN THAT MOTHER DOWN
BURN THAT MOTHER DOWN
THE BURNING OF DETROIT
THE BURNING OF DETROIT
DETROIT MICHIGAN AFTER THE RIOTS OF 1967
DETROIT MICHIGAN AFTER THE RIOTS OF 1967
THE AFTERMATH OF THE DETROIT RIOTS
THE AFTERMATH OF THE DETROIT RIOTS

1967 Detroit Race Riots


"The riot put Detroit on the fast track to economic desolation, mugging the city and making off with incalculable value in jobs, earnings taxes, corporate taxes, retail dollars, sales taxes, mortgages, interest, property taxes, development dollars, investment dollars, tourism dollars, and plain damn money."

1st black mayor of Detroit, Coleman Young

In the early 1960s, Detroit Michigan was widely hailed as a model city for race relations. Detroit had a large and prosperous black middle class, most of whom had escaped utter poverty picking cotton in the southern United States. Look magazine called Detroit "The All American City." Blacks lived in their own neighborhoods, true. But so did Mexicans, Poles, Greeks, and the Irish.

100,000 poor blacks had moved from the South to Detroit in the 1920s to work in factories for far higher wages, and far better working conditions, than they had ever experienced on this planet anywhere. 100,000 more came in the 1940s, followed by just as many in the 1950s and 1960s. Blacks were making more money in Detroit than anyplace on earth by 1966.

Black Americans had much to be thankful for in the 1960s. The Civil Rights Act of 1965, the Voting Rights Act of 1966, and the promises of billions of dollars from the Great Society for inner cities were the most important gains for blacks since Emancipation. Instead of gratitude, blacks responded with violent riots. And nowhere were they worse than in Detroit Michigan.

In July of 1967, Detroit police conducted a raid on a black speakeasy, or blind pig, which was a nightclub selling booze without a liquor license. 83 blacks were arrested. Blacks responded with the worst riot in United States history. 10,000 of them began vandalizing, looting, and burning down businesses and homes. 100,000 others gathered in the streets to cheer them on.

2500 businesses were looted or burned to the ground. 43 people were killed. 467 were seriously injured, including 83 firefighters. Bricks and bottles rained on firemen trying to put out fires; from the very people whose homes were on fire. Most of the businesses owned by blacks were destroyed. The damage to property was $60,000,000. The United States military had to be called in to restore order.

White people soon fled the city of Detroit for fear of their safety. 67,000 whites moved out by the end of 1967; 80,000 more in 1968; 46,000 more in 1969.

My friend, Joe Smith, who has lived in Detroit all of his sixty years, says it was not at all the color of their skin that made whites move away from blacks: it was the behavior of people with black skin.

The riots only made blacks more militant. The voices of moderate blacks, who were favored by the majority, were drowned out by black radicals, who called for separate republic for black Americans. The black militant leaders instructed their people to break into gun shops and steal weapons. They preached that it was entirely moral to murder white people. Black Power was the rage. H. Rap Brown said: "Get you some guns and kill the honkies!"

DETROIT MICHIGAN TODAY
DETROIT MICHIGAN TODAY

White Flight

 

Blacks wanted Detroit for themselves, and white people gave it to them.  Blacks complained that groceries cost 20% more in the inner city. But grocery stores there made less profit—shoplifting cost vendors more than 20%. 

Blacks demanded more funds for their schools saying "It costs twice as much to educate a [black] ghetto child."  Blacks demanded black studies taught to black students by black teachers.  They didn't want a "white education." 

Predictably, the federal government poured millions of taxpayer dollars confiscated from all Americans into Detroit. Much of those dollars vanished.

The Jewish Progressive Liberal federal judge, Stephen Roth, ordered 780,000 children bussed out of their neighborhoods to integrate the schools.  Some children were sentenced to a 90 minute bus ride to school. This only accelerated "white flight."

DETROIT MICHIGAN A BARREN WASTELAND
DETROIT MICHIGAN A BARREN WASTELAND
DETROIT TODAY
DETROIT TODAY
RUINS OF DETROIT
RUINS OF DETROIT
WHAT IS LEFT OF DETROIT MICHIGAN
WHAT IS LEFT OF DETROIT MICHIGAN
URBAN DECAY IN DETROIT
URBAN DECAY IN DETROIT

Something Wicked Comes This Way

Enter Coleman Young. Coleman Young became the first black mayor of Detroit in 1973, and he would serve in that capacity for twenty years. One year after entering the office, his regime made Detroit a "strong mayoral system," which gives the mayor nearly absolute authority.

Coleman Young made Detroit the most Progressive, Liberal city in the world. The levels of corruption in his administration were unprecedented. Coleman Young was a racist who hated white people, and did his best to drive what was left of them from Detroit. Businesses left with them, and the tax base eroded. Crime and drugs took over. Black gangs of criminals terrorized the poor whites who could not escape the city, while Young looked the other way.

Coleman Young outraged white people with his confrontational, outrageous comments. He proclaimed that all white people were racists. He also went out of his way to offend Christians. By the time he left office, Detroit had lost half its population.

Coleman Young's close friend and confidant, William Hart, whom he made Chief of Police, served fifteen years in prison after being convicted of stealing 2.6 million dollars of taxpayer funds. During Young's tenure, Detroit became the murder capital of the world, the arson capital of the world, and the most dangerous city in America. The poverty rate zoomed to 34%, highest in the United States. Unemployment rose to 24%.

A city that was 90% white became 82% black. Detroit became a lawless pocket of poverty. Property values predictably plummeted. Whatever neighborhoods blacks moved into saw a sharp rise in crime, and disruption in its schools. The Great Society gave them money for nothing, and they gave the Great Society less than nothing in return.

DETROIT TRAIN STATION
DETROIT TRAIN STATION
THE RUINS OF DETROIT
THE RUINS OF DETROIT
THE DESTRUCTION OF DETROIT
THE DESTRUCTION OF DETROIT
MICHIGAN CENTRAL IN DETROIT
MICHIGAN CENTRAL IN DETROIT
A GRAND OLD DETROIT HOUSE
A GRAND OLD DETROIT HOUSE

Detroit in Ruins

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    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Yes, I am well aware that the official party line NEVER faults labor unions for anything, because the national press, being 93% leftists, sees labor unions as their natural allies in the struggle to destroy Capitalism, and thereby Christianity.

      Had I wanted to write about the effect of fuel prices on the rise of Japanese cars, I would have. But why would I? As you have amply shown with all those links, it has been done, it has been said, I would simply be parroting the official leftist explanation.

      My article, on the other hand, presents the hidden side of what happened, the part of the story neither the Leftist media nor the Leftist government schools nor the Leftist colleges will tell. I am telling a unique story. If I wasn't, I would tell it at all.

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

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      Just two months after the OPEC embargo began, Congress imposed a national speed limit of 55 miles per hour to conserve fuel. Americans began to buy smaller, more fuel-efficient cars such as Volkswagens, Toyotas, and Datsuns (later Nissans)—while sales of Detroit-made cars (now nicknamed "gas guzzlers") slumped.

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      SUVs, pickup trucks, and muscle cars flew out of dealerships, and even now that filling up your tank is an exercise in sticker shock, America has not been totally willing to part with its gas guzzlers (for example, the Dodge Viper pictured here gets only 14 MPG).

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      The efforts to produce fuel-efficient compact cars by U.S. automakers did not get serious until the mid-to-late '70's. ... motorists would line up for blocks to buy gas and people would even buy a .

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      They can aggressively price their cars, offer incentives and it will sell. Those cars sold more in the previous years because they got the dealerships to sell more with financial incentives. Go out buying a car and the prices of cars are all over the place.

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      Priced at just US$2,547, these 70s cars are one of the best, if not the best, dollar buy in 1970. Cadillac By the early Seventies, the corpulent Cadillac could average only 12 mpg. The energy crisis of '74 made the now-obese line a soft target.

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      That was a big and sudden shift, it doesn't seem that extreme from what we pay today, but imagine if prices today suddenly went up 3X to 4X. Detroit didn't make small fuel efficient cars and that's when the Japanese market got their foothold, now the American market had to catch up and made a shift to fuel savings and smaller cars.

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      Best Answer: I tried to look at American cars, but since I prefer to drive a stick shift, my options are rather limited. The Chevy Cobalt really did not impress me, I tried three Ford dealers and none of them could get me a stick shift to test drive.

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      Pressure from government agencies and insurance companies. The early 70's brought the first 'energy crisis' with long lines at gas pumps, even-odd rationing, and the national 55 mph speed limit. High horsepower cars being unpopular and the perception that they were polluting gas guzzlers suddenly became very wide spread. This hurt new car sales.

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      Cars had drivability problems along with build quality problems. When the oil embargo hit in the 1970s the Detroit companies had big "gas guzzlers" on the drawing boards. People didn't mind so much when gas was 25cents/gallon, but they did when it went to 50cents/gallon and could only be bought on alternate days.

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      James

      Bye

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ I never said my focus was on 1980 or 1980 and beyond. My article really begins in 1896, to provide the big picture of what happened, the context.

      All I said about 1980 was that that was the year I began selling new GM cars and dealing with irate customers about their poorly put together cars as well as the 'sticker shock' of exploding prices. How old are you? You don't remember STICKER SHOCK? What caused it? UNIONS!!!

      The cars were already being crappily made before 1980. My family had been in the auto parts business since 1945. My father and all my uncles were in automotive. I was a parts manager and a customer service manager for a large auto repair facility IN THE 1970s.

      YOU are wrong that the quality didn't go down until the 1980s. And when it did it had NOTHING to do with cutting costs. I TOLD YOU what it was: The Labor Union work rules protected the worst employees in the world no matter what they did and they did not give a shit about their work. They slept on the job, drank on the job, did drugs on the job, and the companies were powerless to do anything about it.

      You say, "As for bicycles and electronics [and steel], there wasn't anything special about American made products. These migrations to foreign competitors was purely monetary." Here you try to carve out cars just because they ran on gas when it was the SAME for all those other products that the unions ran out of the country.

      I TOLD YOU PLAINLY that all Whirlpool products were PRODUCED in MY HOME TOWN IN GIGANTIC FACTORIES WHERE I KNEW MANY MEN PERSONALLY WHO WORKED THERE for DECADES UNTIL the 1970s when what? Gas went up?

      NO!!!! The labor union costs per employee and closed shop laws in Michigan and work rules that made it easy to do as little as possible drove them away and today only the corporate headquarters are still there (where my daughter has worked for 20 years).

      And your idea that there were no 'real electronics' manufactured in America is LUNACY. There were HUGE factories IN THE TOWN I GREW UP IN that manufactured ZENITH and VM televisions, radios, etc, etc. etc.

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      James

      http://www.malaysiaminilover.com/japanese-cars-of-...

      Some seem to believe that the 1960s began a real shortage of oil in the world. The two oil shortages in the 1970s was the sine qua non for the exodus to foreign cars. And there is no doubt that it was the significant reason that people got rid of their luxurious full featured American gas guzzlers for the small, no frills, under powered by higher mpg foreign cars.

      Once again, the quality of American cars didn't start, until the American car manufacturers used cost cutting to lower their car prices to compete with the lower priced but not better foreign cars.

      Now your view actually starts in the 1980s, and I agree with your view from that point on. The unions have always been a factor in the higher cost of American cars, and yes up to the 70s, the US didn't have much automation, but neither did the foreign cars. The quality of the Japanese cars for examples didn't really become prominent until the 1990s, at which time they had already created their own following of car buyers in America.

      As I said before, the biggest advantage of the Japanese car manufacturers over American cars was the Kiretsu. Automation was just a bonus, but the real ability to compete was the Kirestsu.

      The US caused its own demise in the 70s by propagating the Lie that the Oil shortage was real. The American car owner and car buyers, much like the AGW supporters of today panicked.

      Much like the 2009 cash for clunkers, but this time it based on the fallen economy.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Allowance_Rebate...

      The truth of the 1970s oil shortage was political, and not factual. Here we are 40 years later and there are more than double usage of oil, and we haven't tapped out yet.

      My point is that if the average car owner in the 70s knew the real truth about why oil was in shortage, they wouldn't have traded their cars for pathetic foreign box automobiles. Without those lies about oil, I submit that it would have taken decades for foreign cars to capture the auto market.

      As for bicycles and electronics, there wasn't anything special about American made products. These migrations to foreign competitors was purely monetary. What America had been known for was design and creation of products, but once out into the market, these products could be built, and shipped half way around the world as they are today and still be sold cheaper than American made, especially union made.

      In the 1980s, there was no real American electronic products, and for example VCRs all had one of four different foreign built units under different Japanese brands.

      There is no common denominator for the loss of the Auto maker superiority, and the rest of the products that you mention.

      In fact, the automaker unions have never disappeared, and yet the American car still exists. Yes, it is built around the country and its parts are built all over. We also have foreign cars built in America with American Unions.

      My point is that American Automakers didn't have less quality until the oil shortage exodus caused the American Car owner to go for lower mpg. That would have never happened if they knew the truth about the oil.

      Now is the US government going to make another lie about AGW to get something we don't need to do, just because they induce another lie to panic people into making another bad decision.

      It is a lot like analyzing the 2008 US economy and starting at 2009.

      Once again, I am not challenging you here, I am offering my view. I have done a lot of research on this subject.

      The difference between us is that your focus is 1980 and on, while mine ends in 1980.

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ You ask, "Did Americans sell their gas guzzlers and buy Japanese because of quality or because of the higher mpg?" Both. And also because they were inexpensive to buy.

      I did not mention gas prices in my article. But I have told you several times that I agree with you it was a factor. Had there been no labor unions in America I do not believe the Japanese cars would have become nearly as popular as they did. And again, it was not only in cars that we lost our dominance. Bicycles too, which do not use gas. In the 1950s, America manufactured half the goods in the world.

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      James

      I couldn't find any times you mentioned gas prices, just unions and the American cars weren't well made.

      The link said that the American cars quality went down because they went into cost cutting trying to lower the cost of the car to compete with Japan.

      They didn't do this until 1980, so I don't know where you got the bad quality from the 70s?

      Yes, the Unions were a drain on the American Automakers, and that is why GM started Saturn to remove the unions.

      But nothing other automation since the 80s changed in the American Unions, the union jobs would diminish with automation.

      The sine qua non for the exodus of Americans to Japanese cars was the two oil shortages, which I believe wouldn't have generated any American cost cutting, and they would have kept the market, until the Japanese sold cars more palatable for Americans.

      It would have happened decades later, and that is because of the Japanese Kiretsu which we don't have in American business.

      I we look at the cars today, yet the Japanese and other foreign makers have a good quality, and they have made themselves the brand name.

      Sushi is also popular today, it is just not my choice.

      Final question

      Did Americans sell their gas guzzlers and buy Japanese because of quality or because of the higher mpg?

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ I appreciate the link to that article. I read it. If you expect any left wing magazine to blame labor unions for anything you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. They will find any excuse not to blame unions.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ THREE TIMES I SAID, “YES, RISING GAS PRICES PLAYED A ROLE.” Your response? “You totally ignored the effect of the oil shortage.”

      The cars coming out of Detroit in the 1970s were notoriously sloppily put together with dealer comebacks soaring to all time highs. People were sick of it. I sold new American cars from 1980-1983 – lots of them. I heard the constant complaints, “I’ve been buying Buicks all my life but this is the last. It’s been in the shop five times. The body doesn’t even fit right. The transmission keeps slipping. The engine makes funny noises. The interior is falling apart after 6,000 miles.” These people were angry. They were angry at me. As if I built the thing.

      AGAIN if it was nothing but gas prices as you claim, how was the bicycle business killed by 1980 and most of the steel business?

      You can say “Quality was not a factor” and you can say “the moon is made out of green cheese.” You can say whatever you want.

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      James

      This might clear up the issue.

      I maintain that what you saw in the 80s was the result of the oil shortages, and the significant rise of oil prices.

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      "By the 1970s and 1980s, the auto industry suffered setbacks that further impacted Detroit. The industry encountered the rise of OPEC and the resulting sharp increase in gasoline prices. It faced new and intense international competition, particularly from Italian, Japanese and German makers. Chrysler avoided bankruptcy in the late 1970s only with the aid of a federal bailout. GM and Ford also struggled financially. The industry fought to regain its competitive footing but did so in very substantial part by introducing cost-cutting techniques focused on automation and thus reduction of labor cost and the number of workers. It also relocated ever more of its manufacturing to lower-cost states in the U.S. and to low-income countries. Detroit's residents thus had access to fewer and fewer well-paying, secure auto manufacturing jobs.[13]"

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      You totally ignored the effect of the oil shortage on the fact that people were dumping their gas guzzlers for the little tin Japanese cars that had small engines and a higher mpg and no frills. I don't know what you saw in the 80s but look at the Japanese cars. I think you are confusing the 90s with the better built European and Japanese cars, but not in the 70s or 80s.

      According to your facts, what happened in 2008 should have happened to the US car companies in the 80s. And I believe that only Chrysler had a funding problem. The Saturn was also created to flush the union and pay problems. Not that it was a success but GM tried.

      And my whole point of bringing this up originally was to show what effect any reduction in fossil fuel resulting from AGW solutions would have a dramatic effect on our economy and that of the world.

      On your AGW article you have over 3,000 posts, I wouldn't call them comments, and of that number there are at least 2,000 throw away posts. My other point is that even if AGW was real, the world countries are not reacting to it as a major problem, like an asteroid heading for the earth. The infrastructure project of China and Dubai are not concerned with AGW.

      Before you conclude this issue, tell me what year the Japanese built a better car than Detroit. And compare that with the timing of the oil shortages and the lies from the US government that said that the oil shortages were real, and they based it on there are no more dinosaurs to die and create oil. People believing that we were at the end of the oil cycle and with no alternatives got rid of the luxurious American gas guzzlers for the higher MPG, and that was the only enticing feature of the Japanese cars.

      This was a fools conservation plan to make the oil last longer. The government gave companies 3X credits to R&D an energy solution. While your unions and quality view is credible, if there were no oil shortages, the process you talk about was have taken several decades to play out, not within one decade. Gas more than doubled, and having two not one oil shortage gave credence to the government lies about we have no more oil. These shortages are the same tactics that the AGW is using today about the emergency caused by AGW. These tactics make people decide in haste, not in logic.

      You haven't proved my version wrong, you just say yours is correct. The combination of mine view and your view sums up the issue, but my view shows the catalyst to make it critical. There was no superior foreign car company, they were cheaper and more mpg. And that is all the gas depraved American car drivers made their decision. Quality was not a factor, and these small foreign cars were death traps in collisions.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Yoleen Lucas ~ Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article. I totally agree with your comments. As you said so well, "Actually, the shoddy work was due to workers strung out on drugs. Drug dealers, seeing a golden opportunity from the highly paid workers, invaded the factories. As a result, many workers began the weekend by partying on Friday, then came to work hung over on Monday."

      I have heard about this and I do believe this is true. Thank you for your contribution to our understanding.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Did rising gas prices play a role? Yes. I have already said that. But cars are not the only product that began to be bought from overseas.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ Today, because of the damage done by unions, General Motors loses $2331 on every vehicle they produce, while Toyota makes a profit of $1488 per unit. The plants in Detroit take 20% more man-hours to produce each car for two reasons: the unions protect inept workers; and the unions fight automation. GM has a cost factor of $74 per hour for its workers versus $48 per hour for the Japanese plants in America (all in right-to-work-states).

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ By the 1970s factory workers in the "Rust Belt" were doing shoddy work; vastly overpaid for menial labor; with unsustainable lifetime benefits; with sinecures like ones we can see on The Sopranos where a guy collects a paycheck for sitting in a chair all day; and as a result drove American manufacturing out of business—or the production part of manufacturing goods out of the country—while they continued to go on strike every other year against the companies that had provided their families with the best jobs in generations; while Nero played his fiddle and the unions were controlled by mobsters.

      They fought automation that would have kept us competitive with the Japanese and other countries.

      It was state laws in the Rust Belt, particularly in Michigan that did them in, not Federal Law.

      Manufacturers had no choice to go bankrupt or move their manufacturing to "Right To Work" states, mostly in the southern United States, and eventually out of the country altogether to Mexico, Brazil or China, as the pressures of the shrinking world—globalization—came to bear.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ 28 million southerners moved north from the 1920s to the 1970s, leaving farm work, most from picking cotton, which is brutal work that tears up your hands in the scorching sun all day, to work in factories. To all of these people, factory work presented easily the best jobs they had any hope of, with their lack of skills, education and knowledge.

      Unions were illegal for many years in most countries (and Adam Smith, the father of modern economics, argued that schemes to fix wages or prices, by employees or employers, should be illegal). There were severe penalties for attempting to organize unions, up to and including execution.

      The first national union in the United States was created in 1866. By the 1930s, unions, that had gained enormous power through a collaboration of Marxists and the Mafia, conducted hundreds of strikes. During these strikes, business owners were unable to bring in new workers to replace the ones who were on strike because the strikers occupied the factory; and they physically assaulted with bricks and baseball bats, and sometimes killed, replacement workers, whom they called "scabs."

      This was unlike strikes in the past. Before this time, workers on strike would simply refuse to work until their demands were met. Essentially, this meant that production of manufactured goods in America was halted at will by the unions. Then it got worse.

      By the 1940s, unions were successful in creating "closed shops" in Michigan, with the help of the state legislature, which included many politicians who shrewdly recognized the voting power of millions of union workers, who tended to vote at the ballot box as instructed by union leaders.

      A closed shop is a factory in which union membership is a precondition to employment. In an astounding turn of events in labor history, this meant that if you wanted a job in a factory, you did not apply to the company for employment. You applied to the union for employment and the factory had to hire whomever the union decided they should hire, without the traditional job interview to assess an applicant's qualifications.

      From here on, the great state of Michigan suffered labor strike after labor strike. I remember when one of the Big Three Automakers, in a rotation they had secretly planned, struck, or threatened to strike, every single year for higher and higher wages and benefits and retirement plans. Eventually concessions were made to pay any laid-off autoworker 95% of his wages, while he sat at home. Many them then hoped to sit at home!

      Imagine if the Horse and Buggy Industry had had this kind of power when the automobile was invented—The United States would never had led the world in automobile manufacturing. I can assure you of that.

      Whereas before, in all human history—to give a simple example—if a man refused to sweep the floor for $9 an hour and another man, without work and equally desirous of feeding his family, was glad to do it for that wage; you—as the owners of the company, who by now have invested millions of dollars and vastly more importantly: have created, designed and engineered, the product that people need or want; have marketed it and sold it successfully; have set up an enormous, smoothly running plant to build it; implemented the means to ship and distribute it; in the extremely importantly timely manner according to supply the demand—had the freedom to hire man number two.

      Now, you had to hire any man the union said; pay him whatever they said; let him do whatever work they said and none other; and you could not fire him for poor performance, nor promote him for excellent performance. This sort of "Central Planning" has been tried and found wanting in the old Soviet Union. How many cars did they export? What manufactured goods of any kind have you ever purchased that were stamped, "Made in the USSR."

      Now ask yourselves, my readers (who have hung in here thus far) about human nature. How many people—if told they will working for the next 25 years on an assembly line; and told that no matter how little or how hard they work, no matter the quality of their workmanship, no matter how many times they are tardy or absent, no matter how many times they are caught (or allowed to be) sleeping on the job; it will make absolutely no difference in their pay, benefits or pensions—will work as productively and efficiently as they are able? One out of a hundred? (Who have an inordinate amount of personal pride, or virtue.)

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ 28 million southerners moved north from the 1920s to the 1970s, leaving farm work, most from picking cotton, which is brutal work that tears up your hands in the scorching sun all day, to work in factories. To all of these people, factory work presented easily the best jobs they had any hope of, with their lack of skills, education and knowledge.

      Unions were illegal for many years in most countries (and Adam Smith, the father of modern economics, argued that schemes to fix wages or prices, by employees or employers, should be illegal). There were severe penalties for attempting to organize unions, up to and including execution.

      The first national union in the United States was created in 1866. By the 1930s, unions, that had gained enormous power through a collaboration of Marxists and the Mafia, conducted hundreds of strikes. During these strikes, business owners were unable to bring in new workers to replace the ones who were on strike because the strikers occupied the factory; and they physically assaulted with bricks and baseball bats, and sometimes killed, replacement workers, whom they called "scabs."

      This was unlike strikes in the past. Before this time, workers on strike would simply refuse to work until their demands were met. Essentially, this meant that production of manufactured goods in America was halted at will by the unions. Then it got worse.

      By the 1940s, unions were successful in creating "closed shops" in Michigan, with the help of the state legislature, which included many politicians who shrewdly recognized the voting power of millions of union workers, who tended to vote at the ballot box as instructed by union leaders.

      A closed shop is a factory in which union membership is a precondition to employment. In an astounding turn of events in labor history, this meant that if you wanted a job in a factory, you did not apply to the company for employment. You applied to the union for employment and the factory had to hire whomever the union decided they should hire, without the traditional job interview to assess an applicant's qualifications.

      From here on, the great state of Michigan suffered labor strike after labor strike. I remember when one of the Big Three Automakers, in a rotation they had secretly planned, struck, or threatened to strike, every single year for higher and higher wages and benefits and retirement plans. Eventually concessions were made to pay any laid-off autoworker 95% of his wages, while he sat at home. Many them then hoped to sit at home!

      Imagine if the Horse and Buggy Industry had had this kind of power when the automobile was invented—The United States would never had led the world in automobile manufacturing. I can assure you of that.

      Whereas before, in all human history—to give a simple example—if a man refused to sweep the floor for $9 an hour and another man, without work and equally desirous of feeding his family, was glad to do it for that wage; you—as the owners of the company, who by now have invested millions of dollars and vastly more importantly: have created, designed and engineered, the product that people need or want; have marketed it and sold it successfully; have set up an enormous, smoothly running plant to build it; implemented the means to ship and distribute it; in the extremely importantly timely manner according to supply the demand—had the freedom to hire man number two.

      Now, you had to hire any man the union said; pay him whatever they said; let him do whatever work they said and none other; and you could not fire him for poor performance, nor promote him for excellent performance. This sort of "Central Planning" has been tried and found wanting in the old Soviet Union. How many cars did they export? What manufactured goods of any kind have you ever purchased that were stamped, "Made in the USSR."

      Now ask yourselves, my readers (who have hung in here thus far) about human nature. How many people—if told they will working for the next 25 years on an assembly line; and told that no matter how little or how hard they work, no matter the quality of their workmanship, no matter how many times they are tardy or absent, no matter how many times they are caught (or allowed to be) sleeping on the job; it will make absolutely no difference in their pay, benefits or pensions—will work as productively and efficiently as they are able? One out of a hundred? (Who have an inordinate amount of personal pride, or virtue.)

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad ~ Yes, the Japanese cars were better made. American cars were being delivered to dealerships with fenders and doors misaligned, transmissions that slipped, dashboards with gaps in them, etc. etc. etc. In the 1970s they were shoddily made. The same thing happened In England during that decade.

      I told you, the unions drove Bicycle Manufacturing out of America by 1980 - THEY DO NOT USE GASOLINE. I told you they drove Whirlpool to stop making its washers and dryers in America. THEY DO NOT USE GASOLINE. The manufacture of clothes, steel, and all kinds of durable goods were driven out of the country by unions in the 1970s.

      I moved to Detroit, with my rock band, White Summer. We hired a new singer, Joe Smith, who worked as an electrician at the Ford Motor Company River Rouge plant.

      Joe was the only one of us with a day job, and I asked him how he could play music all night and work all day. He laughed and said, "I only work about one hour a day. They don't have much for me to do. I sleep most of the day there. If a secretary in an office wants to move her typewriter across the room, she is not allowed by union rules to do it herself. A union laborer must be called in [perhaps from a mile away; that's how huge this plant was] to move it physically [while the office personnel stood around waiting—on the clock] and they must call me in, to unplug it before it is moved; and plug it back in after it moves [maybe 20 feet]. Then I go back to sleep."

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad NOYFOB ~ I do not know how you cannot think I made a good case for the labor unions killing the Goose that laid their Golden Egg.

      The United Auto Workers Union was formed in 1935 by John L. Lewis, who was backed by pro-Soviet Communists. Prior to this, automobile manufacturers had already lifted the standard of living for unskilled workers to the highest in the world.

      The United Auto Workers immediately set about to create strife in the workplace, and created a mindset among workers that the companies they worked for were their enemies. Union agitators called factory workers "slave labor." Their ultimate aim was to topple Capitalism.

      Barely one year after the United Auto Workers was formed; strikes were shutting down the places of employment for millions of people. In nearly every case, the union prevailed over the employer, who then had to pass on the higher labor costs to its customers.

      Its customers had no real alternative suppliers for automobiles until the 1970s. The steady increase in labor costs created phenomena known as "sticker shock" for buyers of automobiles.

      The power of labor unions derived from the Wagner Act of 1935. This legislation was passed by Progressive Democrats who dominated American politics at that time and for decades after.

      The Progressive Democrats saw labor union members as a potentially enormous voting block that would perpetuate their power. The unions would extract "dues" from all workers, which would then be funneled to the Democratic Party. In the 2008 elections, $400,000,000 was contributed to Democrats by labor unions.

      In 1937, there were 4,740 union strikes in America that involved 1,861,000 workers and resulted in 38,000,000 days of work lost to American industries. In 1945-1946, labor unions struck 9,735 companies, involving more than eight million workers and costing American industry 154 million work days.

      In 1946, the UAW struck auto manufacturers demanding a 30-hour work week—for 40 hours pay. Then started a pattern whereby the UAW would strike one car manufacturer each year, which would then lose sales to the other carmakers until the strike ended in capitulation to the union.

      In 1950, the UAW strikes gained the incredible pension plans that have the United States in such economic trouble today. That same year the union demanded and won employer provided health care, which is at the root of today's health care crisis.

      By the 1970s union workers in the auto industry were costing companies $70 per hour. Worse than the exorbitant pay for simple work were the union work rules that hampered companies, and encouraged sloth in the workplace, and thus produced shoddy workmanship. The cars coming out of Detroit were poorly made.

      The Japanese then offered superior automobiles, made with precision, and available at a far lower cost. They took 20% of the market in the 1970s.

      The Japanese workers could make the same number of cars with half as many workers.

      General Motors wanted to copy the Japanese method, including some automation; but the United Auto Workers response was that GM could cut its number of workers in half only if they continued to pay all of them, including the idled workers.

      Even in view of this new reality, the United Auto Workers continued to strike in the 1990s, costing American carmakers billions of dollars.

      By this time, each car cost an extra $1500 to cover health care costs alone for current and retired employees.

      The United Auto Workers union also drove the bicycle manufacturing industry out of America by 1980.

      Countless American companies were forced by exorbitant labor costs to move their facilities to "Right to Work" states, or out of the United States altogether, in order to compete in the global marketplace.

      In 2009, President Obama, beholden to labor unions for his election, gave General Motors $58,000,000,000 from American taxpayers to keep it alive. The company that once produced 5,000,000 automobiles each year, now barely sells 2,000,000. The U.S. government took the majority of GM stock, making the government a manufacturer for the first time ever. This is in response to the untenable wages, benefits, and pensions won by the United Auto Workers over the years.

      Five million people moved from Closed Shop [union dominated] states to Right to Work states from 2000 to 2008.

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      Doesn't answer my questions.

      Were the foreign cars any better?

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      Yoleen Lucas 

      3 months ago from Big Island of Hawaii

      "I started selling General Motors cars in 1980 and customers would check to see the DAY of the week it was built because nobody wanted a car made on a Monday or Friday because of shoddy workers protected by unions."

      Actually, the shoddy work was due to workers strung out on drugs. Drug dealers, seeing a golden opportunity from the highly paid workers, invaded the factories. As a result, many workers began the weekend by partying on Friday, then came to work hung over on Monday.

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      James

      You didn't make any compelling argument to support your opinion.

      You think that the cars from Japan were better than Detroit?

      A Honda with a motorcycle engine is better than a 6 or 8 cylinder American car.

      Tell me which Japanese cars were superior to the American cars right after the artificial oil shortages. Without those two shortages, how would Japan or Germany have come into America and taken business away. from Detroit.

      This is the kind of answer that would be the trademark of the left.

      Without the two oil shortages that significantly raised the price of gas enriching OPEC, and the long lines of people waiting for gas what event other than that in the 70s would have had the same results?

      Automation reduced a lot of the labor issues

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      One more thing Brad, ask yourself, "If labor unions had been against the law, or at least closed shops been against the law, do you think we would have lost our manufacturing jobs as we have just because of gas prices?"

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Paula ~ I so appreciate you coming over to read my sad article about the devastation wrought on Detroit by leftism, including unionism. As you say, Detroit is not the only great city ruined by the evil ones. What we need is a "reformation of manners" as William Wilberforce called it, and as he accomplished it, ushering in the Victorian Age.

      As always, I enjoyed reading your comments on this.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad NOYFOB ~ I am sorry to disappoint you. You ask, "If the two artificial oil shortages didn't happen, do you still think that the US would have lost its auto manufacturing then." YES I DO!

      Automobile making was not the only place we lost manufacturing. When I was growing up, Michigan was brimming with factories that are now empty hulks. My hometown of Benton Harbor is where all the Whirlpool washers and dryers were made until the 1970s. Zero are made in the USA now.

      I started selling General Motors cars in 1980 and customers would check to see the DAY of the week it was built because nobody wanted a car made on a Monday or Friday because of shoddy workers protected by unions. I conceded your idea that gas mileage was a factor. But unions killed all kinds of manufacturing jobs. Washers and dryers don't use gasoline.

      I thought I explained myself pretty well in my article, in particular in the section subtitled 'United Auto Workers.' I feel no need to repeat what I already said. However, if you want to know more about how I know from personal experience the detrimental affect on Michigan manufacturing read this: https://hubpages.com/education/Unions-killed-Michi...

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      Paula 

      3 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      James....I feel as though I've just read about the terminal illness, death and burial of an American city. I have friends who lived in Detroit many years ago (when it was still great) They still, to this day, speak quite sadly about the ruination of their once-beloved city and do admit to the reasons why this happened in terms of the progressive liberals being responsible.

      I appreciate the education you have shared here, James. Only leads me to wonder what more it is that Americans must witness, to finally come to terms with the reality of how Progressives brought a once great city to it's knees......The worst news of all being that Detroit does not stand alone in this category. Peace, Paula

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      James

      I am not looking for accolades, I am looking for arguments.

      You made a statement and I gave you are point, and you just give me the democrat response.

      I find your comments to me very disappointing lately, what is going on?

      If the two artificial oil shortages didn't happen, do you still think that the US would have lost its auto manufacturing then.

      The oil shortage was the catalyst, and the auto buyers actually thought that the oil was depleting so they went to higher mpg. They did that by buying little tin foreign cars that had little features beyond higher mpg.

      Don't bother to comment now.

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      James A Watkins 

      3 months ago from Chicago

      Brad NOYFOB ~ Thank you for your thoughtful insights. You make a very valid point. I appreciate it.

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      Brad 

      3 months ago

      James

      I think you totally missed the boat on this one.

      "By the 1970s union workers in the auto industry were costing companies $70 per hour. Worse than the exorbitant pay for simple work were the union work rules that hampered companies, and encouraged sloth in the workplace, and thus produced shoddy workmanship. The cars coming out of Detroit were poorly made.

      The Japanese then offered superior automobiles, made with precision, and available at a far lower cost. They took 20% of the market in the 1970s. The Japanese workers could make the same number of cars with half as many workers. General Motors wanted to copy the Japanese method, including some automation; but the United Auto Workers response was that GM could cut its number of workers in half only if they continued to pay all of them, including the idled workers."

      B:

      The Japanese cars you mention here didn't exist. The only reason that people bought these cars was because they had a higher MPG than the Detroit fully loaded, luxury compared to Japan, with big engines, lots of interior space.

      For example, take a look a the first Honda, it had a motorcycle engine, and it was about the size of a smart car.

      Those other factors that you mention about Detroit apply better to 2008 than the 1970s. Two artificially created oil shortages, long lines to get gas is why people starting dumping their Detroit Cars, not the Union because the cars while costing a lot were sold to cover those costs.

      To decide on this issue, look at the 1970s cars from Japan and those from Detroit.

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      James A Watkins 

      2 years ago from Chicago

      Yoleen Lucas ~ Thank you for taking the time to read my article and write to me. I apologize for not responding sooner but for some reason I was not notified that comments had been posted - or I just missed it. I enjoyed reading your thoughtful, insightful remarks. You wrote, "though I didn´t know what I was doing then, to this day it remains the best decision I ever made." Maybe you knew more than you think you knew. Maybe the Holy Spirit guided you.

      James

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      James A Watkins 

      2 years ago from Chicago

      Michael Milec ~ Thank you ever much for reading my article. I appreciate your extraordinary perceptive comments on it. I especially liked this: "The people moved away from God and godly principles, thus God is far away with his blessing. Only coming back to Him will cause changes for better." Amen Brother!

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      Yoleen Lucas 

      2 years ago from Big Island of Hawaii

      For the past several months, I have had a morbid fascination with Detroit. I´ve watched numerous YouTube videos roaming through its desolate neighborhoods, and documentaries detailing its decline. Everything you said here is Right On. I´d like to add that the raid of the illegal nightclub that launched the 1967 riots was done at 3:45am, and the notorious $70 an hour union wage was earned by those at the top, with very little money trickling down to the commoners. Also, what is often referred to as ¨white flight¨ is actually ¨green flight¨, since middle class blacks also (wisely) fled the city.

      Why do I speak so frankly, instead of coddling criminals based on their skin color? I was born and raised in Oakland CA, which has a history similar to Detroit. (It is not quite so horrible, but its heyday is not as grand, either.) I tore out of there like a bat out of hell soon as I turned 18; though I didn´t know what I was doing then, to this day it remains the best decision I ever made.

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      Michael-Milec 

      3 years ago

      Oh, Lord God creator of the universe, have mercy!

      Hi dear friend and great writer James A Watkins. What a summary. What a historical facts you have submitted, a lesson for every reasonable and sane person to ponder upon and make move for changes. (Sighing).

      Too to late? Perhaps not . A hope exists ,the hope that all the sinners would repent and restore their life,, families, communities if they would be willing to call upon the Name of the Almighty. If not - well as historical facts indicate in this hub, the past eighty or so years are indicating, evil and destructun will soon bring to an end of this social system ...

      ( Needles to say, the city of Detroit was our primary destination early seventies. The photoes you are shoving , the streets and buildings were in walking distance where my family lived. Our bank on corner of Warren and Van Dyke was among first equipped by the bullet proof glass... Soon our friends initiated our moving to 'safer' place...How beneficial was it, who knows? The spiritual forces of evil communistic dictatorship gradually but surely by the multiple legislations and decrees has been spreading into every corner of the countryside...

      The people moved away from God and godly principles, thus God is far away with his blessing. Only coming back to Him will cause changes for better.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      AHudak~ If you liked this article I think you'll LOVE this one: https://hubpages.com/education/Unions-killed-Michi...

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      AHudak~ As I truthful wrote: "Enter Coleman Young. Coleman Young became the first black mayor of Detroit in 1973, and he would serve in that capacity for twenty years. One year after entering the office, his regime made Detroit a "strong mayoral system," which gives the mayor nearly absolute authority. Coleman Young made Detroit the most Progressive, Liberal city in the world." ARE YOU WITH ME SO FAR? Then what happened? "During Young's tenure, Detroit became the murder capital of the world, the arson capital of the world, and the most dangerous city in America. Black gangs of criminals terrorized the poor whites who could not escape the city, while Young looked the other way. By the time he left office, Detroit had lost half its population."

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      AHudak~ I did note that prior to the riots "Detroit had a large and prosperous black middle class, most of whom had escaped utter poverty picking cotton in the southern United States. Blacks lived in their own neighborhoods, true. But so did Mexicans, Poles, Greeks, and the Irish. 100,000 poor blacks had moved from the South to Detroit in the 1920s to work in factories for far higher wages [get that?], and far better working conditions [pay attention], than they had ever experienced on this planet anywhere [ever, anywhere]. It is not racist to note the truth: "10,000 blacks began vandalizing, looting, and burning down businesses and homes. 100,000 others gathered in the streets to cheer them on. 2500 businesses were looted or burned to the ground. 43 people were killed. 467 were seriously injured, including 83 firefighters. Bricks and bottles rained on firemen trying to put out fires; from the very people whose homes were on fire. Most of the businesses owned by blacks were destroyed. The damage to property was $60,000,000. White people soon fled the city of Detroit for fear of their safety. 67,000 whites moved out by the end of 1967; 80,000 more in 1968; 46,000 more in 1969. My friend, Joe Smith, who has lived in Detroit all of his sixty years, says [PAY CLOSE ATTENTION RACE BAITER] it was not at all the color of their skin that made whites move away from blacks: it was the behavior of people with black skin." The same thing happened where I am from in Benton Harbor.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      AHudak~ As I wrote: "Blacks were making more money in Detroit than anyplace on earth by 1966 [and TEN TIMES MORE IN AMERICA THAN ANYPLACE ELSE ON EARTH INCLUDING AFRICA AND HAITI.] Black Americans had much to be thankful for in the 1960s. The Civil Rights Act of 1965, the Voting Rights Act of 1966, and the promises of billions of dollars from the Great Society for inner cities were the most important gains for blacks since Emancipation. Instead of gratitude, blacks responded with violent riots. And nowhere were they worse than in Detroit Michigan." I don't give a damn if you consider that racist or not. IT IS TRUE. That is what matters.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      AHudak~ It was black mayor Coleman Young who said: ""The riots [by black people] put Detroit on the fast track to economic desolation, mugging the city and making off with incalculable value in jobs, earnings taxes, corporate taxes, retail dollars, sales taxes, mortgages, interest, property taxes, development dollars, investment dollars, tourism dollars, and plain damn money."

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      AHudak~ As I wrote, "In 1937, there were 4,740 union strikes in America that involved 1,861,000 workers and resulted in 38,000,000 days of work lost to American industries. In 1945-1946, labor unions struck 9,735 companies, involving more than eight million workers and costing American industry 154 million work days." ALL THIS AGAINST WHOM? Against "automobile manufacturers had already lifted the standard of living for unskilled workers to the highest in the world."

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      Thank you AHudak for your comments. I did address the truth about unions, which I am well aware is contrary to Leftist propaganda. As I said, "Henry Ford attracted workers to Detroit after he announced in 1914 that he would pay double the prevailing wages for unskilled labor. It was Ford who instituted the 40-hour work week when many people in America were working 80 hours a week. He also designed his factories with huge windows so his workers would be bathed in sunlight." ALL OF THIS HAPPENED DECADES BEFORE THE UNIONS TOOK OVER. The unions falsely take credit for this. As I further stated, "Henry Ford was adamantly opposed to labor unions, which were created by Communists, because labor union leaders advocated violence and workplace disruptions. Ford correctly saw that in the long run, labor unions would hurt the manufacturers who provided jobs for the unskilled and illiterate, and thereby hurt the workers they proposed to help." All that I wrote is absolutely true. I am aware the Truth may be a bit of a shock to the ignorant. For instance, this I wrote is unquestionably true: "The United Auto Workers Union was formed in 1935 by John L. Lewis, who was backed by pro-Soviet Communists. Prior to this [PRIOR being the key word], automobile manufacturers had already lifted the standard of living for unskilled workers to the highest in the world [HIGHEST IN THE WORLD BEFORE UNIONS is the point to grasp, if you can]. The United Auto Workers immediately set about to create strife in the workplace, and created a mindset among workers that the companies they worked for were their enemies. Union agitators called factory workers "slave labor." Barely one year after the United Auto Workers was formed; strikes were shutting down the places of employment for millions of people." NOW GET THIS: "Their ultimate aim was to topple Capitalism." These are facts not opinions.

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      AHudak 

      4 years ago

      LOTS of holes in this story. Blaming the blacks for the downfall of Detroit - WOW! It's easy to take bits and pieces of stories and create your own racist history. You do not mention at all FHA red-lining and how it corralled black Americans into defined areas, and did not allow them to move out of the inner city. You did not mention how cutting off funding to those areas and discriminatory policies outside of the inner city area created ghettos. You did not mention how tearing down successful black business communities by Federal highways decimated many black businesses and families -then by the discriminatory red-lined policies they were not allowed to leave. You did absolutely no research on what working conditions were in plants before unions, and how many families - including white families - worked 2 or 3 jobs just to survive, if they did not get sick from asbestos, or crushed in unsafe working conditions.

      You do readers a great disservice and Detroiters and Michiganders do not need your one-sided racist views - do your homework next time! You get an F on this research! Go Home!

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      PegCole17~ It is hard not to think about color when the 'progressives' have divided up the country into the shameful 'oppressors'--white men who are Christian and heterosexual----and the oppressed (everybody else; all of whom are eternal victims who have grievances entitling them to special advantages) and when they divvy up college slots and jobs accorded to color as well. Thank you for your heartfelt remarks. I appreciate you reading my work.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      Drive By Quipper~ Yes sir, I have heard of Harry Bennett.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      carrie Lee Knight--- Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article and for hitting all the good buttons for me.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      Major55~ Perhaps you are right about Coleman Young. But the unions were absolutely backed by Communists/Socialists whose ultimate aim was to topple Capitalism. Thank you for your thoughtful insights.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      scooterport----Thank you! Thank you very much.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      Glad to hear it Meee! :-)

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      Peg Cole 

      4 years ago from Northeast of Dallas, Texas

      This sad commentary on one of our formerly great cities is or should be eye opening to us as a nation. When will we stop seeing people for the color of their skin and stop all this us against them nonsense? It all sounds so desperately familiar to the cries of today and the reactions of people based on prejudice and racism rather than good sense and morality.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      John Sarkis! Great to hear from you. Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article and Lord knows I sincerely appreciate the laudations and good votes.

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      James A Watkins 

      4 years ago from Chicago

      Thank you Major55 for your comments. But on the contrary, I will be thrilled to see Detroit come back. I surely hope it does. Why wouldn't I? I am after all a Michigander.

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      John Sarkis 

      4 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

      - Excellent article. - Voted up and away!...

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      Major55 

      5 years ago

      sorry site. to let one fool comment over and over. Detroit is on a come back--and you just cant stand it.lol

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      James A Watkins 

      5 years ago from Chicago

      Thank you very much for reading my article. I appreciate your gracious compliments.

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      Carrie Lee Night 

      5 years ago from Northeast United States

      Very sad, but a well organized and informative hub :) voted up and interesting

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      Drive By Quipper 

      5 years ago from Wrong Side of Town

      Guess you've never heard of Harry Bennet or Karma.

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      Major55 

      6 years ago

      This article for the most part is accurate--but your comments on now deceased, Coleman A. Young, being a racist are untrue and your opinion as with your comments about the Union. Place the blame on the "Cooperate Gangsters." I was born in the Black Bottom on(Fort St. and St. Aubin St.) in 1952 and raised in Detroit. I had seen it all--good and bad!!

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      James Roberts 

      6 years ago from Summerville, Georgia

      By far the best article I have ever read about Detroit!

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      Meee 

      6 years ago

      Great for my project!!!!

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      I also would have had Ashton Kutcher bring black skin to the dinner table in the movie Guess Who. I would have showed him getting disrespected for being white. Then he would tell his girlfriend forget this I am getting a race change. I can't deal with this. I demand respect. He would get a race change come back as a ghetto black man with a new name and be rude and disrespectful and the family would be intimidated by his gangster attitude. The tables would be turned. Let the professional writers iron out the details. LOL!

      I would also have in movies and citcoms a random black man with a small role admit that they were born white but got a race change because it is much safer to be black now. They ladies would be all over them. This would happen often if I had the keys to the bus.

      Peace.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      I think ever since I started commenting here a few months ago you are starting to realize how much black skin would help the white man. How black skin could be an insurance policy and a shield for many white men in our society.

      I am not sure what the meaning of all those anti white male commercials are. They do expose that the black male is the more dominant male. But it does not expose how much more respect the white man would get if he had a black face.

      I can't figure out the hidden messages in all those commercials. I don't get the impression they are trying to convince whitey to dye his skin black. If they did you would see things like this.

      The 40 year old virgin- A 40 year old white man dyes his skin black and gets all the fine women.

      Napoleon Dynamite- A nerdy white kid who gets no respect and has no friends finds that black skin is just what he needs to help his social life.

      Grand Canyon- A black man proves that he can protect a white man from racism better with a black face.

      8 mile- A white rapper has enough black friends and connections to help him the survive and thrive in the hood.

      It could also have white males saying I need to get a race chage under their breath whenever they are disrespected by black males on these shows and commercials. Or even say I would not get disrespected like that if I was black. I demand a race change! I guess the media is not interested in telling the white man the one thing that would save his butt moving forward. And that is black skin.

      If I was in charge of the media I would not hesitate to show that the black man is the alpha male of America. But I would also show how black skin could help those who don't have it.

      Auto Insurance Quotes by B-Dawg- Like a good neighbor black skin would be there for the white man!

      The white man would be in good hands with black skin!

      Black skin would be on the white mans side!

      I wonder if the white man could save some money on his car insurance by switching to blacko? LOL!

      Peace.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      I am glad that you remember that scene from Grand Canyon. That illustrates what I have been saying all along that someone with black skin can protect white people from racism better than with someone with white skin. Now you have a better idea of what I have been saying.

      I know this idea is unrealistic but I will throw it out there anyways. Lets say those 3 black guys would have jumped that white guy. It would have been an obvious hate crime. Now those guys would go to jail but most likely they couldn't care less either way.

      In my opinion the best punishment for these guys would be since they live in the hood where it is dangerous to have white skin. I would say instead of putting these guys in jail, just send them home as WHITE MEN! Then they would get a taste of their own medicene. Now I know this is unrealistic and unconstitutional but that WOULD be the best punishment for those guys if they committed a hate crime. But than again on the down low the law could always say we will not put you in jail as long as you agree to go home as white men. You have to live as white men in the hood for 18 months. That would be the best punishment for those guys. Just a thought.

      PEace.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      CriticalMessage— I, too, have fond memories of Detroit. I recorded my 4th album there, right on the hallowed ground that was the old Motown Studios. The band lived over there for several months during that project.

      I have no idea what you are talking about with this "Cheetah II." Is that a zoo? :D

      You met the Rolling Stones?! Wow. That IS something.

      Yea, Detroit looks pretty rough now. To me, this is a sad state of affairs.

      Well, I thank you for your comments. I appreciate the visit to my Hub, too.

      James

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      Don A. Hoglund 

      6 years ago from Wisconsin Rapids

      Thanks for this informative history of Detroit. I have never been there but I know what happened there is important to the country. I grew up in a working class family and my father was very pro union. Over the years I have been disillusioned with unions. I worked in Rock Island,Illinois where the UAW is very prominent in the farm machinery industry and got a rather unpleasant view of them Since that time I have come to think of unions as being counter productive.

      It was a very well written history of a city.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg--- Thank you for your most recent and always excellent remarks.

      Yes, I have seen the movie "Grand Canyon," and I do remember that scene. I think you are right that in real life "If that tow truck driver had white skin you both would have gotten jumped."

      James :D

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      PAUL BAKER UK--- Corruption and corporate greed probably have played some role. For instance, with any government program, it seems we get about 10% fraud and waste. With our health services programs for the poor and elderly, it runs about 15%, or 100 billion dollars each year. Before the government got into the health care, you could have a baby delivered for $100, for which you paid the doctor directly, usually with ten equal payments of ten bucks each. Now it $7,000 because the government is paying for them with other people's money. It is very easy to spend other people's money. It is not handled as is one's own.

      Thank you for reading my Hubs. I appreciate your comments.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      With all the white people talking about job discrimination and college discrimination I am more surprised than ever that no one from the white community has tried to get a race change. I am surprised that if I go to google and type in "black skin would help the white man" or "The white man should get a race change" there is not a whole bunch of stuff popping up.

      James, Why do you think no one from the white community has tried to get a race change yet?

      I think it is because the media has shown black men are more powerful and respected but they do it in a way that would make white men resentful.

      But the truth is if a white man wants to be friends with black people black skin gives him the best chance to do it. If a white man wants to give black people constructive criticism black skin makes it easier for him to do that. If Mitt Romney had black skin he would have had a better chance to win that election. The media does not expose how black skin would help the white man. In Grand Canyon they did expose how a black man can protect a white man from racism.

      I am 100% convinced that white skin is the white mans #1 weakness. I think that black skin would be a hero for so many white men. I don't understand why more black men are not letting their white male friends know how black skin = protection. Although a lot of black men screw it up. Mostly because they can't keep their big pipe in their pants. I don't make a lot of money but I don't have any kids eating up my paycheck. So many poor black people are heavy breeders than they are destined for a hard life. There would not be so much poverty if people who are not financially stable would wear protection or keep their pipe in their pants.

      Peace.

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      Murphy 

      6 years ago from Chicagoland, Illinois

      My memories of Detroit.... Greek Town, Ford Museum & Edison Village (My most favorite Museums ever!), Windsors Cheetah II, The view from my window at the Ramada Windsor looking across the river at the Detroit skyline, The former Ritz-Carlton in Dearborn (wish I could elaborate on that one here, but as a tease?, it involved a few members from The Rolling Stones), The best baseball uniforms ever!, did I mention the Cheetah II in Windsor?, and lots and lots of boarded up, delapitated buildings... This Chicagoan Loves Detroit!... ~smiles~

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg— Thank you very much for the trio of new comments you posted here a week ago. I have been running a bit behind on responding to my comments sections. I apologize for the delay.

      As always, your remarks are fabulously interesting. As far as the workplace goes, I think you are right when you say, "If black people see a black face in charge they will be more respectful and work harder and complain less."

      Makes sense to me.

      You write: "I have another example for you. The OJ Simpson case. . . . If a group of white men murdered OJ no white man in the world would be safe. I am just trying to show you how black skin is so good for protection now."

      You are spot on there, matey. And if OJ had been white, he would have gotten the gas chamber in a heartbeat. If he had been murdered by whites, there would have been race riots all across America.

      You ask: "Give me some inside information. How often do you think white people are victims of racial politics like the ones we are talking about? Who do you think would benefit the most from having black skin in the white community? Do you think liberals or conservatives are more likely to like my race change idea?"

      I think white people lose out on about 10% of their job opportunities and college slots due to reverse racism. I think they are forced to keep their mouths shut 99% of the time by political correctness. White males trying to go to college would benefit most from black skin, I suppose. And young white dudes looking to score some trim, too. I don't think Liberals will like your idea unless you come up with a pill to actually make them black for real. They would go for that. :)

      James

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      I don't know if you ever saw the movie Grand Canyon. But there is a seen in that movie that exposed what I have been saying. A white man was driving home late at night and his car broke down in the ghetto. He called for a two truck and was waiting when four black thugs pulled up and saw him. They started harrassing him and were getting ready to beat the s*** out of him. But then the tow truck driver pulled up. The tow truck driver was a black man and he was able to talk the 4 black thugs out of beating up the white guy. The white guy and the black tow truck driver became friends and the white guy told the tow truck driver you saved my a$$. I was thinking to myself no, Black skin saved both your a$$es. If that tow truck driver had white skin you both would have gotten jumped.

      If you have watched this movie and remember that scene that is a very good example of how a black man can protect white people from racism better with a black face. That is why it is important for white people to be open minded about bringing pigmentation into the white community. Now don't get me wrong, Those four black thugs could have very well have beaten up the black guy and the white guy but just by having that black presence really helped save the white man's butt.

      I think that could summarize everything I have ever said about race. Black skin would save the white man's a$$. Catch you next time Peace.

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      PAUL BAKER UK 

      6 years ago

      CORPERATE GREED AND CORRUPTION IS THE REASON FOR AMERICAS DECLINE R:E OPED NEWS MIKE PAYNE EMANNUEL WALLESTEIN YES IT HAS ALL GONE WHAT IT WAS AND WHAT IT

      STOOD FOR IT HAS GOT TO CHANGE.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      I have another example for you. The OJ Simpson case. I think OJ's chances of being convicted would be higher if both or atleast one of the victims was black. There would be no black outrage if OJ was convicted of killing black people. If OJ was found NOT guilty of killing black people then the victims could use the race card to their adavantage and say that they don't care about black murder victims.

      Also white people would be more comfortable saying that they think OJ was guilty if the victims were black.

      If the goldman family wanted to have OJ taken out they could do more damage with a black face. Lets say OJ was robbed and murdered by a group of black males. Those black males would go to jail but they would not have to watch their backs as much as they would if they were white. If a group of white men murdered OJ no white man in the world would be safe. I am just trying to show you how black skin is so good for protection now.

      I think right after the Rodney King riots is when the white man should have started taking a look at bringing pigmentation into the white community. This race change movement in 20 years overdue. I will never understand why no one has ever thought about this before. It is not that hard to figure out that black skin would protect the white man.

      If you go to google.com and type in black skin would be a shield for the white man hubpages all you will see are comments left by me B-Dawg. It should not be that way. If you go to google.com and type in black skin would protect the white man you SHOULD be able to see somments all over the world from all different types of people and races. I don't understand how this has stayed under the radar.

      Catch Phrase of the Day: Black skin will save the white mas a$$!

      PEace.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      Give me some inside information. How often do you think white people are victims of racial politics like the ones we are talking about? Who do you think would benefit the most from having black skin in the white community? Do you think liberals or conservatives are more likely to like my race change idea?

      Catch you next time. Peace.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      That is why these white bosses and business owners should go BLACK FACED! Even if there listed as white by birth if black people see a black face in charge they will be more respectful and work harder and complain less. I also think that black bosses are not picked on as much by their higher boss as white bosses are. I can tell from certain things I have seen. And I will keep saying it. If a black man sees a black person picking on a white person that he knows he can protect him better with a black face.

      The black customer and the NAACP probably wouldn't say jack if the fuel prices were set by a black man. Black skin has really helped keep black people off Obams back. If Obama were white black people would probably criticize him more.

      The black customer actaully said How they spect me to live on $1500 a month? How did he get all that money?

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg--- Thanks, man, for coming back by with the pair of new comments. Sure, I think you should give those comedians some material. Or maybe you should do it yourself?

      It is sad to hear about what your old boss went through. My best friend is a teacher and has told me that they have like 4 black women teachers at their school and those 4 are all time time hollering, "I'm not doing this. I'm not doing that. I'm going to call the union!" I guess no one but them threatens to call the union all the time. Or a lawyer.

      I had a black customer once stand in my lobby yelling how he was going to call the NAACP over something stupid like our fuel prices or something. I was shocked that he even thought that way.

      I'm going to call the gubmint. I'm gonna get my gubmint cheese. How they spect me to live on $1500 a month!?

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      About 2 years ago I had a white boss where I worked at. He seemed like a good manager and a good guy. This guy gave his soul to the company. He got a promotion and tranferred to another location. He had some issues with a black female at the other location. To make a long story short he ended up getting fired. He went to a lawyer and they did little to nothing about it. I still talk to this guy and he went from making 100 thousand a year to 50 thousand a year. And in my opinion black skin would have saved his job most likely. Or at the very very least gave him a better chance not to get fired.

      I told him on the down low that if he was black he probably would not have gotten fired. I can tell you that the black girl probably would not have given him any trouble in the first place if he was black. Black skin most likely would have been his shield. When I told him about black skin he just kind of laughed it off but I just hope he keeps it in mind. This is a classic case of why I think the white man should go black. Not only that a black man can protect a white person much better from racism just by having black skin alone.

      I will let you soak in this and I will continue to give you examples where I feel black skin would have protected a white man or even helped a white man. I have forgotten more about how black skin would help the white man than anyone will probably ever know. But I am not going to throw them all at you at once. You are the only person online that has given me the time of day on this. But mark my words black skin is the answer. And I am gonna put the word out! PEace.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      There were some stand up comedians in my area Friday Night and I went to go see them. They were all white comedians. They did some material on race and stereotypes. Pretty much everything they said made me think about how much black skin would help the white man.

      The comedians basically kissed up to me and the other 2 black guys there. And talked smack on white people. They basically said white guys are a bunch of cow humping, submissive to their wives, small penis, sissies. They said a few black jokes. Such as not paying bills on time and saying $hit at the end of every sentence. Nothing offensive. They also said the white man needs to be more like the black man and keep his women in line. A black man is much more respected in society in my opinion. My advice to the white man DON'T RISE UP. DARKEN UP! PEace.

      BTW, they do shows every week maybe I should try to share some of my ideas with the comedians after the show next time I go.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      PAUL BAKER WINSFORD UK--- You've got it all wrong, my friend. Greed was not what America stood for. The average corporation in America makes a net profit of 5%. What is wrong with that? I used to make that much in interest on passbook savings with no risk at all. Investors face risk and for that risk, if they invest wisely they make money on their money. That is not bad but in fact a great good.

      America stood for free enterprise, individual freedom, representative democracy, limited government, maximum liberty, religious freedom, and economic freedom. That is why tens of millions of people immigrated here. You might notice that not very many immigrated to countries using your model, the USSR, North Korea, and East Germany. Those nations had to, in fact, build walls to KEEP PEOPLE FROM FLEEING.

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      PAUL BAKER WINSFORD UK 

      6 years ago

      CAR'NT YOU SEE AMERICA IT'S ALL GONE WHAT IT WAS WHAT IT STOOD FOR CORPERATE GREED FINNISHED IT OFF LOOK UP MIKE

      PAYNE OPED NEWS.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg--- Thank you very much for all of your remarks made in regard to this topic and others. I feel sad for Detroit. A lot of it is being reconverted into farmland, or at least truck patches, which I think is a good thing.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      I like the fact that you are thinking about what if you were black. Most white men could just be themselves and they would be fine as a black man. Some black men listen to country music. Most black men have or have had a white girl friend.

      The media has a lot of power over black people. If the media wanted to they could influence black people (especially young black males) that racism is wrong. But the media and society as a whole has sent a message that it is acceptable to be racist against white people. The media is one of the main reasons why you see so much black on white racism. Peace.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg— I appreciate both of your comments posted here 4 days ago.

      You ask: "Do you have any ideas on what I should say? I want to keep it short and sweet. I want to get straight to the point. Which one of my comments really struck you the most? Does anything stand out?"

      Not really. You have said many interesting things. As you say, keep it short and sweet.

      Being from Benton Harbor, Michigan, I have been able to talk black since childhood. You know dat's right! Shucks baby! Whatchoo talkin bout?! I hurd dat!

      So ifn I had the black face, I could pull off the rest. I'd be fitn to, anyway.

      I used to sell cars back in the day and one day this sweet old black grandma came in with her 18-year-old grandson to buy his first car for him. She had $1000 cash to spend—didn't want no crediks, as she put it. I was at a Buick store and we didn't keep very many cars in that price range; we wholesaled them to "Buy Here Pay Here" lots mostly. But I had a very nice clean little car that I thought would be just right. When I showed it to them, it seemed alright until suddenly the young kid jumped out of it like he had seen a ghost. I asked him what was wrong and he said, "It's a dick!" Or at least that is what I thought he said. I had no idea what he meant. I asked him to repeat it a few times until he finally slowed down and said in clear English: "It's a stick! Man, I can't be leanin if I gots to be shiftin!"

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      Right now I am zoning in and trying to figure out this plan. I am going to be leaving random notes in public restrooms about how I think black skin would help the white man. I want the idea out there.

      Do you have any ideas on what I should say? I want to keep it short and sweet. I want to get straight to the point. Which one of my comments really struck you the most? Does anything stand out? I just have to hope that people don't take this as a joke.

      This is not about the white man getting into college. This is about the protection black skin would provide the white man. Better race relations. The white man getting his man card back. White nerds who are looked at as a joke, People would most likely not mess with them if they were black. You have to remember 97% of black males that are murdered are murdered by other black males. So the black man will think twice about messing with you if you are black for that fact alone. That is the real from the inside Peace.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      Another reason why I think white men would like being black is because they could actually criticize black people when it is necessary without dealing with racial politics. They could address blacks 50% drop out rates.

      The way most white men carry themselves if they were black they would have a much better relationship with black people. You could get better results out of black men. Black skin could help many white mens sex appeal. (that alone should be enough). And I can't say this enough A black man can protect a white man from a black racist better than a white man any day of the week.

      Peace.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg--- Yesss!! I did see that on the news today about Parker. I was kind of surprised because as you say I am used to black guys getting a pass no matter what they say. I mean, they can talk about killing cops and call women whores and still get called a "role model" by our President, and probably spend the night in the White House.

      I like the way you put this: "Make no mistake about it a black man still has much more flexibility on what he can and can not say. The last thing in the world I would want to be is a white comedian. That has got to be boring. I mean what can a white comedian really say?"

      ROFLMAO! That's funny. And I know from funny.

      Anyway, thanks for everything.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      I forgot to tell you. I don't know if you watch a lot of sportscenter but ESPN analyst Rob Parker (a black man) got suspended for questioning RG III's "blackness." He said that just because RG III was a Republican and had a white girl friend his blackness was in question. (Which by the way I don't know what planet Rob Parker is living on as I would say more than half black men have white girl friends where I live at.)

      I was shocked that a black man got suspended for saying something racial. That almost never happens. It does appear that a black man has the green light to criticize white people though. That is why I tell you black skin is like a condom. It does not always protect you. This was one of those cases. If Parker would have been white I am sure he would have been fired.

      Make no mistake about it a black man still has much more flexibility on what he can and can not say. The last thing in the world I would want to be is a white comedian. That has got to be boring. I mean what can a white comedian really say? Black skin is where it is at. Keep your options open. Peace.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg— I am a bit old to be hurt much by reverse discrimination. I think it affects the younger men, trying to get into college and trying to get employment, who see lesser qualified people taking spots that would have been theirs had the playing field been level, had "diversity" or "affirmative action" not been the cause of job quotas.

      As for your remark: "I bet black people would be buying country music CDS all over the place if the country music stars went blackfaced."

      I am not sure about blackface but if Country was dominated by black artists you can bet that black folks would love it.

      Thanks again for all of your contributions to this discussion.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      Do you feel like black skin would help you where you live at? Have you had a lot of "wish you were black" moments in your life?

      I am telling you James, Black people are MUCH MORE likely to listen to another black male. If the white community wanted to convince black youth to like white people they would have a better chance with a black face. My slogan for the white man is BLACK SKIN IS THE ANSWER.

      I bet black people would be buying country music CDS all over the place if the country music stars went blackfaced. Don't be the victim of racial politics be the victor! Don't pay for another generations sins get paid for another generations sins! The white man has a bright and colorful future ahead of him if he can somehow put together a race change movement on the down low.

      One guaranteed way is for white couples who want to have kids can either a.) ask a healthy black male friend for a sperm sample. b.) ask the hospital for a healthy black male sperm sample.

      I don't think it is fair for white men to be punished for having white skin. I will continue to anonomously tell white men what I think they should do moving forward. Peace.

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg— Even though I grew up in Michigan, my allegiance in professional sports has always been oriented towards Chicago, in particular the Cubs. I root for the Tigers if they are playing anyone else. Where I am from, in Benton Harbor, our newspapers, radio, and television were dominated by Chicago. Detroit is 4 times farther away.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      You would think that a city with a high black population would atleast have a good football team. The Lions have been one of the worst NFL teams in the last 10-15 years. Are you a Lions Fan? a Tigers Fan? or a Pistons Fan?

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg--- I wish you the best in 2013. I did notice that the world didn't end yesterday. God Bless You! And thanks for engaging me on these various topics.

      james

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      I hope that the every MAN will have the opportunity to have a BLACK christmas someday. And a COLORFUL new year. LOL!

      I think foreigners have it worst than anybody. They get picked on by whites and blacks. If Mexicans and Asians had black skin they would get more respect also. Yes blacks have a bad reputation for violent crime but that is a big part of the reason why nobody will mess with you usually.

      Whenever I see a non black man getting picked on I just wish I could take a magic stick and turn him black. I wish I could turn George Zimmerman black because he is going to need it. PEace

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      Mark Bowie— Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article and post such a thoughtful and insightful comments. I am aware that John L. Lewis was the head of the UMW for decades. But he also formed the UAW in 1935, that Mr. Reuther became head of in 1946.

      As I said in my article, and it is fact, "PRIOR to the unionization of auto workers, automobile manufacturers had already lifted the standard of living for unskilled workers to the highest in the world. The United Auto Workers Union was formed in 1935 by John L. Lewis, who was backed by pro-Soviet Communists. The United Auto Workers immediately set about to create strife in the workplace, and created a mindset among workers that the companies they worked for were their enemies. Union agitators called factory workers "slave labor." Their ultimate aim was to topple Capitalism."

      Lewis was the founder and first boss of the Congress of Industrial Organizations (CIO) and it formed the UAW. If I may quote a history book, "The growth of the CIO was phenomenal in steel, rubber, meat, autos, glass and electrical equipment. In early 1937 his CIO affiliates won collective-bargaining contracts with two of the most powerful anti-union corporations, General Motors and United States Steel. General Motors surrendered as a result of the great Flint Sit-Down Strike, during which Lewis negotiated with company executives. The CIO—backed by Communists and headed by Lewis formed the UAW and and USW and gained enormous strength and prestige from the victories in automobiles and steel."

      As far as the UAW goes, my history book says that "Communists provided many of the organizers and took control of key union locals, especially Local 600, which represented the largest Ford plants. The Communist faction controlled some of the key positions in the union, including the directorship of the Washington office, the research department, and the legal office. Walter Reuther, a rising power, cooperated closely with the Communists, but historians disagree whether he was ever a full party member. Walter Reuther won the election for president at the UAW's constitutional convention in 1946. He was a registered socialist in the early 1930s, the son of a socialist brewery worker who had immigrated from Germany."

      "Reuther joined the Ford Motor Company in 1927 as an expert tool and die maker. Henry Ford helped build a large truck and tractor plant (GAZ) in the late 1920s in Nizhny Novgorod, Soviet Union, sending along engineers and mechanics, including Reuther. He was laid off in 1932 as the Great Depression worsened. His Ford employment record states that he quit voluntarily, but Reuther himself always maintained that he was fired for his increasingly visible socialist activities. He and his brothers went to Europe and then worked 1933–35 in an auto plant at Gorky in the Soviet Union.

      A committed Socialist, at the end of the trip he wrote, "the atmosphere of freedom and security, shop meetings with their proletarian industrial democracy; all these things make an inspiring contrast to what we know as Ford wage slaves in Detroit. What we have experienced here has reeducated us along new and more practical lines."

      He wanted America to be more like the wonderful worker's paradise the USSR, the United Soviet Socialist Republics. Not "Ford wage slaves" like in terrible old America. He had drunk the Kool-Aid.

      World War Two was when the American public learned what State Socialism was really all about, the Berlin Wall, people shot trying to get out, etc. Then Reuther and a multitude of others publicly turned against Communism. They could hardly have kept a job had they not.

      It was Karl Marx who said: "Unionism is the first step to Communism! Workers of the world unite!"

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      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg— Thank you once again for all of your outstanding comments. You have added much color commentary to several of my Hubs and I surely appreciate it.

      You said, "A lot of older white men are more likely to be targeted by everything from robberies to job discrimination. "

      I think you may be right about that.

      Merry Christmas to you!

      And a Happy New Year!

      james :D

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      Mark Bowie 

      6 years ago

      A very revealing Hub James. However, a major factual error: John L. Lewis was the head of the United Mine Workers (coal miners) from 1920 to 1960. Walter Reuther was the force behind the United Auto Workers (automobile, aerospace and agriculture implements) Union. My grandfather was a good blue collar Roosevelt Democrat and Walter Ruther was his "hero" and my father and by extention myself was lucky enough to have the benefit of receiving the benefit of receiving the perspective of someone (my grandfather) who was directly involved in the 1930's expansion of the U.S. union movement. Reuther was strongly anti-communist and he actively purged any union local who had Communist leadership. Lewis was a socialist.

      Mark

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      Lets look at the other side of the coin. I think white skin would be a punishment for most black men. Can you imagine Chris Rock as a white man? He would not last very long the way he talks smack. He would probably wind up in a mental institution or get beat up badly.

      Those 4 black men that killed Shawn Taylor. I think the best punishment for those scumbags would be to put atleast one of them (the triggerman) in prison as a white man. He would truly get what he deserves in prison as a white man. Maybe they could make a deal. We will reduce your sentence to 5 years if you agree to be white in prison. All I know is white skin would be a good punishment for a lot of these knuckleheads in the black community.

      As for George Zimmerman this guy deserves black skin. It sounds to me like He and T. Martin got into a fight and martin was beating the crap out of him and Zimmerman shot him. He probably should get jail time but I don't think he deserves thousands of black faces after him. I think those guys that attacked Shawn Taylor deserve that hostility.

      I look at situations like this and wonder why today's white man would not want black skin. The white man can't even criticize Obama without getting fired or sued. If a black man critices Obama he may be a suspected Uncle Tom or sell out atleast you still have a job and no law suits.

      I wish you a Merry Christmas and I hope you have a COLORFUL year! If black skin knocks on you door please answer it. If they ever invent a black spray tan I encourage you to do it if it is safe. It will make you look younger. It will give you job protection. Street protection.

      A lot of older white men are more likely to be targeted by everything from robberies to job discrimination. I can't state that black skin is guaranteed protection I can state that it gives you the best chance to be protected. If you are the victim of a black mans crime you can go after them without racial politics. Black people will be like a family to you. All I am saying is always keep your options open. PEace

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg— I think you are onto something with your remarks. There is no question that racial politics are a major obstacle to resolving this issue.

      Thanks again for visiting and commenting.

      James :D

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      They need to clean house. The CIA, FBI and police the SWAT team whatever it takes. There is no excuse for them to have let things get this bad. What is going to happen is this crime is going to spread into the suburbs. It may take a HEAVY "Black Face" law enforcement team to clean house. But by any means necessary.

      I wonder if racial politics is the reason why these issues are not taken care of. Also the jails are full. P

    • James A Watkins profile imageAUTHOR

      James A Watkins 

      6 years ago from Chicago

      B-Dawg— Thank you very much for taking the time to come over and read my article about the formerly great American city of Detroit, now a vast wasteland. I appreciate your outstanding comments in both sets of your remarks. It is always a pleasure to hear your voice of reason.

      You wrote: "whenever a black man gets murdered it is always at the hands of a black man"

      Statistics show this to be nearly always true.

      You wrote: "It's funny. Society says when black people leave a dangerous black area they are doing it because they are bettering themselves. But when white people do it they are a bunch of cowards."

      I agree with your analysis. White folks are routinely castigated for "White Flight" and it is strongly insinuated they only left deteriorating neighborhoods because they are adverse to certain skin colors—not because their children were getting beaten, their girls raped, their homes broken into, their property vandalized, their property values plummeting and their life savings along with it, the schools no longer educating the kids, living a life of fear and insecurity, quality of life in the toilet. Oh no, that could not have had anything to do with it. They are just bigots.

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      B-Dawg 

      6 years ago

      James Watkins,

      UPDATE: There was a black on black murder in my area a few days ago in one of the housing projects. I live in the suburbs but it has its share of crime. Everytime I see a black person getting hostile with someone in public it is almost always a white victim. But whenever a black man gets murdered it is always at the hands of a black man.

      Some people look at black on black crime and think black skin will not protect you from black sin. I can tell you this: Black people are more likely to get KILLED OR BEAT UP getting hostile with another black person. But black people are much MORE likely to get hostile with a white or even hispanic person. PEACE!

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