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Malaysia Airlines flight #MH17 (AMS to KUL) (Viewers May Find Some Content Disturbing)

Updated on July 19, 2017
THE ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPH of MH17 on 17/07/2014 before departure at Amsterdam's Schipol Airport - The picture was taken by a Dutch passenger before getting on board. The passenger joked "If it goes missing, this is what it looks like"
THE ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPH of MH17 on 17/07/2014 before departure at Amsterdam's Schipol Airport - The picture was taken by a Dutch passenger before getting on board. The passenger joked "If it goes missing, this is what it looks like" | Source

Introduction

Midday at Amsterdam's Schipol Airport, one of Europe's and the world's busiest - passengers line up at departure gate G53 to board the mid-day 12-13 hour non-stop Malaysia Airlines flight to Kuala Lumpur, with many of them booked on onward connections out of Kuala Lumpur International Airport. The flight, designated as #MH17 is operated by a Boeing 777 Series jetliner is one of the airline's key European routes which it has operated since (freakishly) exactly 17 years ago i.e. the first flight designated as MH17 operated on 17 July 1997.

The captain of the flight, 50 year old Wan Amran Wan Hussin, commanding one of the world's most sophisticated and safest airplane's just another job in the office, no doubt the tragedy of #MH370 from only 4 months ago still haunting the minds of everyone on board especially the crew who are still coming to grips with the disappearance of their colleagues on 8 March 2014 when the Boeing 777 flying from KLIA to Beijing's Capital International Airport mysteriously vanished 2 hours into the flight and has still not been found.

As far as the pilot of MH17 was concerned, Captain Hussin was very keen on performing the Haj pilgrimage - one of the most significant spiritual journeys a Muslim makes during his/her lifetime so it is pretty evident that the crash wasn't a far-fetched case of pilot suicide.

And then, 3 hours into the flight and at roughly 14:15 Hrs UTC, at an altitude of 32-33,000 feet, the Boeing 777-200ER's shot down without any warning and comes crashing down in far eastern Ukraine (caught on film) over Donekst Oblast near the Black Sea coast. The world media, in disbelief begin sending out newsflashes across the globe and speculations immediately begin about the integrity of Malaysia Airlines including the maintenance records of their planes however it soon emerges that it was no doubt shot down by a Surface to Air missile - the finger squarely being pointed at Pro-Russian separatists who're known to be in possession of the 'Buk' SAM (Surface to Air MIssile).

298 Passengers (including 15 Crew members) are killed and the passenger manifest includes 193 Dutch Nationals (including Pioneer HIV Scientist Dr Joep Lange, Amnesty International Human Rights worker Tessa Van der Sande, who was just 27 years old and another one with dual Dutch-US Citizenship), 28 Australians while the rest of the passengers being 43 Malaysian Nationals (that included 15 Crew members) and citizens of other countries - 1 Canadian and New Zealander, 4 Belgians and Germans, 12 Indonesians, 10 Britons (including one with South African-UK dual Nationality) and 3 Philippinos.

Items including passports, money, toiletries and airplane seats are also found within the wreckage and questions are immediately asked about why was the plane flying over such a volatile airspace over the Crimean peninsula in the first place.

MH 17 in Pictures - WARNING - Extremely Graphic clips!

Phone Call Intercept between a Pro-Russian Rebel Comander and a Russian Intelligence Official after the Rebels realize their Apparent Mistake

The SA-17 BUK Surface to Air Missile (SAM), similar to the one apparently used to shoot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17/MAS17
The SA-17 BUK Surface to Air Missile (SAM), similar to the one apparently used to shoot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17/MAS17 | Source

Ukraine's Political Tensions

As an aviation enthusiast myself, me along with many other analysts, governments and observers did wonder why MH17 decided to fly into the jaws of one of the most unstable commercial airspace in the world when it was on record that other airlines had already begun avoiding the area for more northern routes that bypass Ukraine's territorial airspace altogether.

This year, Ukraine's been under the grip of a civil-war, triggered by ongoing conflicts between pro-Russian separatists (focused around the eastern part of the country in Crimea) and the rest of the nation who want the country to remain in tact (the way it has been since the collapse of the USSR in 1991). The most prominent player within the ranks of the pro-Russian militant rebels, Igor Strelkov, known by his nom de guerre Igor Girgin seems to be the prime suspect in this tragedy as he claims many pilots including Ukrainian defence forces were warned that they will shoot down planes if they strayed into Crimean airspace - only a few days ago, they successfully took down a Ukrainian Sukhoi SU-25 fighter jet and an Antonov AN-25 transport plane and it appears that the downing of MH17 was a mistake on the part of the perpetrators.

Nevertheless, this tragedy has highlighted the already troubled circumstances bleeding Ukraine and no amount of justification is going to console the families of the victims involved.

(Above) Burning Debris from MH17's Boeing 777-200ER after being shot down by a SAM (Surface to Air Missile over Ukraine) (Below) Location of the crash-site
(Above) Burning Debris from MH17's Boeing 777-200ER after being shot down by a SAM (Surface to Air Missile over Ukraine) (Below) Location of the crash-site | Source
Igor Girkin (born 17 December 1970), one of the main players within pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, is being directly blamed for ordering the firing of the missile which shot down MH17
Igor Girkin (born 17 December 1970), one of the main players within pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, is being directly blamed for ordering the firing of the missile which shot down MH17 | Source
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An example of the Sukhoi SU25 fighter (Above) and Antonov AN124/AN25 Transport Plane (Below) - Both models of these planes belonging to Ukraine forces were shot down over Crimea by Seperatists
An example of the Sukhoi SU25 fighter (Above) and Antonov AN124/AN25 Transport Plane (Below) - Both models of these planes belonging to Ukraine forces were shot down over Crimea by Seperatists | Source

MH17's Flight Path on 17 July 2014

It seems to be more or less apparent that it indeed were pro-Russian rebels in Crimea who were behind the shooting down of MH17 over Donetsk but questions still remain as to why was the plane flying over there in the first place when there were prior warnings from intelligence agencies that there was a credible 'security risk' over the area.

It is understood that since recent weeks, other Asian airlines such as Asiana, Singapore Airlines and Korean Air had already re-routed their flight-paths across Eurasia to avoid eastern Ukraine amid rising political tensions and investigators are wondering why wasn't MH17 routed in a way that it would at least avoid Crimea.

Aviation corridors are split into paths called 'Airways' (similar to highways) which are plotted and tracked by Satellite-based GPS and on board flight management systems of aircraft. The particular airway which was used by MH17 was called 'L980', which offers a more or less great-circle route between Western Europe and Maritime Asia. Further investigation also suggests that the Boeing 777's cockpit crew actually requested a cruising altitude of 35,000 MSL throughout its journey over Ukraine (which is also the largest country by area on the European continent) but the request was rejected as the plane was ordered to fly at 32,000 feet MSL instead.

CNN's weather reports also suggest that the plane chose to fly along #L980 to avoid an area of turbulence which had affected the southern parts of Crimea (and in effect a more volatile part of Ukraine) but having said that there's wonderment as to how Eurocontrol (the main organization overseeing Air Traffic Control across the European continent didn't cordon L980 off as being off limits until the situation in Crimea calmed down a bit. According to the Malaysian government though, Eurocontrol have confirmed that there were at least 150 scheduled commercial air crossings on 17 July alone so they didn't see the need to ban an entire airway as there was no credible threat to any particular airliner despite the 'concerns' which had already previously surfaced.

The most plausible theory for now regarding MH17's flight path seems to be that the crew chose to fly a more southerly route as it was more economical - eastbound flights usually like to take advantage of the Earth's prevailing trade winds which assist in faster journey times thanks to tail winds which translates to less fuel costs and more money saved.

The L980 Airway over Ukraine is one of the world's most crowded and important in Eurasia - This is the airway used by MH17 before being shot down over Donetsk.
The L980 Airway over Ukraine is one of the world's most crowded and important in Eurasia - This is the airway used by MH17 before being shot down over Donetsk. | Source
Comparative flight-paths of MH17 on July 16 and July 17 2014. The flight on the 16th took a more southerly route as against that taken on the 17th.
Comparative flight-paths of MH17 on July 16 and July 17 2014. The flight on the 16th took a more southerly route as against that taken on the 17th. | Source

UK Couple 'Shaken' After Missing MH17 and realizing later it had been shot down

Narrow Escapes for Air India, Singapore Airlines and Virgin Atlantic

Further analysis of the airspace over Crimea and eyewitness reports have also revealed that an air India Boeing 787 Dreamliner operating as Air India flight AI113 (BHX-DEL-ATQ) between Birmingham and Delhi was only 25 Km behind MH17 when the latter was shot down. Reports from the Times of India and Daily Mail UK confirm that there were at least 3 other jets belonging to major airlines which were within minutes of each other at the time MH17 was shot down over Donetsk.

It is assumed that the Air India plane along with a few others were tuned into the same frequency as MH17 while flying over Crimea and under the control of Simferopol FIR-Center when the center reported that they had lost contact with MH17. The controller then requested Air India 113 to attempt making contact with MH17 and when the Air India Captain failed to do so, they had already realized that the worst had probably happened and a stunned silence ensued across the Air India and Singapore Airlines cockpits.

The Singapore Airlines flight, another Boeing 777-200 Series operating as SQ351 from Copenhagen to Singapore was also seconds behind MH17 and AI113 while a Virgin Atlantic Airbus A330 operating as VS301 from Delhi to London-Heathrow was flying roughly 140 miles away.

All airlines have confirmed they broke no rules set down by ICAO in relation to which flight-paths they should have been using and have now confirmed they're avoiding Ukraine's airspace all together.

An Air India Boeing 787 Dreamliner (example pictured here) operating as flight AI113 between Birmingham (BHX) and Delhi (DEL) (and then onward to Amritsar/ATQ) was just 25 KM behind MH17 before the latter was shot down!
An Air India Boeing 787 Dreamliner (example pictured here) operating as flight AI113 between Birmingham (BHX) and Delhi (DEL) (and then onward to Amritsar/ATQ) was just 25 KM behind MH17 before the latter was shot down! | Source
A Singapore Airlines Boeing 777-200 Series Jet (Example pictured here) was flying as flight SQ351 from Copenhagen (CPH) to Singapore (SIN) and was only moments behind Air India flight AI113 and MH17!
A Singapore Airlines Boeing 777-200 Series Jet (Example pictured here) was flying as flight SQ351 from Copenhagen (CPH) to Singapore (SIN) and was only moments behind Air India flight AI113 and MH17! | Source
A Virgin Atlantic Airbus A330 Series Jet (example pictured here) operating westbound as flight VS301 between Delhi (DEL) and London-Heathrow (LHR) was 140 Miles away from MH17 when the missile struck the Malaysian Boeing 777.
A Virgin Atlantic Airbus A330 Series Jet (example pictured here) operating westbound as flight VS301 between Delhi (DEL) and London-Heathrow (LHR) was 140 Miles away from MH17 when the missile struck the Malaysian Boeing 777. | Source

The Aftermath and Potential Consequences

Described by some as the 'biggest crime scene' in the world, major world leaders have been quick to blame the Russians for this tragedy as they believe that nobody can operate the sophisticated machinery of the SA17 BUK missile without proper guidance and expertise of a trained military official - the idea being that the pro-Russian rebels couldn't have known how to use the missile without direct help from Russia.

Moreover, it is reported by Ukrainian authorities that since Crimea is controlled by the rebel and the self-proclaimed head of 'government' in that region is Russian financier, they've already managed to take away the plane's black boxes (the Cockpit Data Recorder and the Voice Data Recorder) and shipped them off to Moscow. While Russia denies they have the black boxes, this theory marks eerie similarity to the crash of #Korean Air Flight 007 on 1 September 1983 when a Russian fighter shot it down after the Boeing 747 strayed into USSR airspace near Kamchatka during its flight between Anchorage and Seoul - the Soviets denied they had the black boxes only to reveal 13 years later that they did have the black boxes but never revealed that they did for political reasons.

It was also understood that the rebels are playing foul by not allowing the bodies of the dead to be fare-welled with dignity and respect as bodies of the victims have been taken to in a freezer on board a Ukrainian train but without a clue as to what's the train's destination. As of the afternoon of Tuesday, 22 July, the train has arrived at a town called Kharkiv, which is outside rebel-controlled areas of Ukraine. However, further reports by CNN and BBC initially reported that the train only arrived with 200 bodies rather than the 280+ which the rebels reportedly loaded on board its freezer when it left Donetsk but the Daily Telegraph, Australia has reported that all the bodies of the 282 passengers and 16 others have arrived at Kharkiv and forensic experts are already suggesting that those killed did not suffer after the crash.

The bodies are now in the Netherlands undergoing painstaking forensic examination to identify them while the black boxes are now being analyzed by investigators.

Investigators are also breathing a sign of relief as after difficult negotiations with rebels, they have finally been allowed to examine the crash-site and due to the fact the handover of data recorders to Malaysian authorities has been completed by the rebels as reported on BBC World News on 21/22 July 2014, beating speculations that the Cockpit data Recorder and Cockpit Voice recorder had been secretly shipped to Moscow.

This tragedy is not only huge in terms of global Geo-political concerns, but is also that of grave and unwarranted human loss, a crime and a terrorist attack, which has impacted ordinary and extra-ordinary citizens of the world who were simply wanting to go about their everyday lives.

It has also been reported that the rebels are still in complete control of how the investigation pans out as they're strongly regulating the movements of officials from Malaysia, the NTSB and journalists and repeated requests for freedom of movement around the crash-site are still going unanswered, thereby adding to the angst of the governments, airline and relatives impacted by this human tragedy.

Russia's already been on ice-cold relations with the west due to its handling (and direct involvement in) of the invasion of Crimea and speculators believe that this crash could lead to not only further sanctions against Russia but also make the world go bi-polar again if NATO decides to go on the military offensive in Ukraine to flush out the rebels unless the Russians are willing to handle this situation swiftly. Some conspiracy theorists even go to the extent of suggesting that this could after all be the work of western/ Israeli intelligence agencies to justify a war against Russia while Israel settles its own scores against Gaza without too many eyes watching over them - a theory which is plausible but a bit far fetched at this juncture.

World leaders have been nevertheless quick to condemn this act of terror and have made some strong statements from various corners of the world demanding that the Russians and Ukraine stop playing childish blame-games and get on with investigating this civilian tragedy.

The Ukraine Train on which the dead bodies recovered from MH17's crash site have reportedly been loaded in the train's freezer compartment.
The Ukraine Train on which the dead bodies recovered from MH17's crash site have reportedly been loaded in the train's freezer compartment. | Source

Ukraine's Prime Minister calls on the world to put the 'Bastards Responsible for this Crime' to Justice

Australian PM Tony Abbott calls for an unbiased and full investigation into the crash of MH17

Barack Obama's reaction to the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17

Vladimir Putin blaming Ukraine for the downing of MH17

Malaysian PM Najib Razak expresses Shock over the shooting down of MH17

Conclusion

We can only hope that the families of the victims of the terror attack on MH17 find the closure they're seeking i.e. find the bodies of their loved ones and farewell them with dignity and see the perpetrators of this crime being brought to justice.

Conspiracy theories aside, the major players at the center of this tragedy can either use this disaster to rectify an already out of control situation or use this as fuel for their fire.

In the interim, as is the case with any major tragedy, lets see what lessons airliners learn from this incident (especially Malaysia Airlines, who're already reeling from the massive impact MH370 has had on the company and the country) and whether they'll follow Israel's El-Al in installing anti missile flares/bursts in their fleet's hull.


Korean Air flight 007 - A Boeing 747 which was shot down by a USSR Figher over Kamchatka on 1 Sept 1983 as the plane wandered off course due to Pilot Error

Iran Air 655 - An Airbus A300 Shot down Over the Persian Gulf on 3/4 July 1988 by USS Vincennes due to a case of Mistaken Identity and errors on the part of the

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      Shell 3 years ago

      Good ..all the info in one place...including your opinion.

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      moonlake 3 years ago from America

      It was horrible, I still can't believe they even flew over that area. We will never know for sure what happened and nothing will ever be done about it. Is it the 'biggest crime scene' in the world for this year yes, but 911 was the biggest crime scene.

      Vote up.

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      Nadine May 3 years ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

      Thank you for this very well written article on such a tragic event. My sister in Holland has a friend who lost both his parents. I will share your post on several networks, Voted up!

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      Ritu Temptor 3 years ago from India

      It is a heart breaking and unforgivable mishap. Whether it's a case of mistaken identity by the shooters or a horrible conspiracy to blame Russia and start a war - we will never really know. Such events never really come to closure but disappear into history with passing years, till another similar mishap happens. It's so pathetic that innocent lives are constantly lost due to political cross-fire. Very well-written post, voted up! Thank you for sharing the details and the complete information.

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      Word 3 years ago from Chicago

      Very thorough coverage of another major world tragedy, Hackslap. The world is made up of beautiful God created people but many people want to take live in their own hands instead of following God's plan and therefore, this is now the world we live in: a world of selfishness and greed. We're living in a great controversy: evil vs good, Satan vs God. I pray that people will decide to love others as they should love themselves. The world should not become an evil plain. This should have been a hub of the day because people need to be aware of all the angles. I can't express enough of how special and swift of research, facts, pictures, details, videos and consideration of your coverage was of this tragedy. May God continue to bless you!

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Really thorough report of what happened in this tragedy. I would like to see Putin stand up, and hold up his hands and say, 'We are sorry, we will do everything to help, and yes it was some of rebel fighters. he is stupid, he would make the world see him in a better light, and it would look better for him, but no, he is hanging on to his awful stance of not me, oh no. This has got to stop and never happen again, I saw a family who lost some of their family on the lost plane from two months ago, now they lose more on this one? what the heck, how horrible, great coverage, nell

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      John Hansen 3 years ago from Queensland Australia

      Very well researched and clearly written account of a terrible tragedy. Those responsible need to be quickly punished.

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      Victor W. Kwok 3 years ago from Hawaii

      Clearly, a lot of effort was made in writing this article. It is sad and horrible that something like this had to happen. One can only hope that no more fuel is added to the fire.

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thanks Shell :)

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Why the plane flew along L980 will remain a mystery until the CDR is retrieved however as per Malaysia Airlines the route was never banned by the ICAO (the International Civil Aviation Organization) and on that day alone at least 150 flights used the airspace over eastern Ulkraine (controlled by the Simferopol FIR)

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thank you for your feedback Nadine and Please pass on my deepest condolences to your sister's friend ... this is without a doubt a horrific tragedy for anyone who's directly or indirectly involved. Many thanks for sharing my hub too!

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thank you very much for your feedback temptor .. yes it is sad that innocent civilian lives are the ones that get impacted the most due to childish but violent bickering over things like political control of land.... time will only tell what comes off this over the next few months.

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thank you very very much for your kind feedback word55 .. religious contexts aside..I'm fairly sick of what the human race has become..if we could focus our achievements towards freedome and peace..the world would be a much better place to live in..

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thank you very much for your feedback Nell...I'm no fan of Putin's policies but even if the missile systems came from Russia (which in most likelihood they did) ..he doesn't have any direct control over this incident..if he wishes to save face..what he MUST DO is deal with the rebels (more so identify who actually ordered and executed the firing of the missile) objectively - putting his personal political ambitions aside...who knows..in a strange twisted reversal of fate..this incident might just be what Ukraine and Russia needed to end months of senseless violence..

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Cheers Jodah for your feedback...lets see what happens.. On another note Abbott looked like a tool thanks to his choice of words during his speech re MH17...

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Yes Vkwok lets just hope things can be nipped in the bud in the wake of this tragedy ..thanks for your feedback re my hub

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      Gilbert Arevalo 3 years ago from Hacienda Heights, California

      Thanks for researching the important details, Hackslap. I'm pretty sure they shot down MH17 on purpose, but it's possible they didn't know it was a civilian plane with 298 passengers aboard.

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      I agree rebel ...they wanted to shoot planes down at will but didn't realize until it was too late that they made a catastrophic mistake ....

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      Kamal Mohta 3 years ago from Guangzhou

      A comprehensive, journalistic grade hub covering all aspects of the tragedy of the flight MH-17. Instead of getting bits and pieces from various news articles, Facebook, Twitter, etc., one can just read your hub for all necessary information.

      I feel sorry for all the innocent lives lost aboard MH17. They did not even get a chance to say goodbye to their loved once.

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thanks for your feedback Chinaimport ... yes this crash (or crime as I'd like to call it) was extremely unjust towards everybody involved ..victims and their friends and loved ones and I hope those who're responsible will be brought to justice ..

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      greeneyedblondie 3 years ago

      Even if it was an accident (which I'm thinking it was) it's still a terrible thing to happen.

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      Harry 3 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Agreed greeneyedblonde ..

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      Vladimir 3 years ago

      Hi everyone! Somehow, no one pays attention to the fact that the board did not have stockpiles of food and water. Given the fact that the plane was supposed to fly 8 hours, it is very strange. Furthermore, when the DNR representatives arrived at the scene (half an hour after the crash) from the corpses was a foul smell as if they had died long ago. Some passports were canceled. Is a proven fact that Boeing was hit Ukrainian fighter air-to-air missile. Rockets hit in one wing and engine plane spun in the opposite direction.

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      Dianna Mendez 3 years ago

      I didn't realize there was a war going on in this area. Seems we had another incident today similar to this recent tragedy. You did a great job in researching this accident.

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      @Vladimir ..not sure about where you've got your information but it is scary if it turns out people on board the plane were already dead before the plane was shot down

      @teaches ..thanks for your feedback .. im surprised you weren't aware of the tensions in eastern Ukraine ... US media not reporting the news much? (not surprised lol)

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      Vladimir 2 years ago

      Information taken from here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8TJNKe9f-c

      This news channel of pro-Russian separatists. Who were at the crash site of a Boeing half an hour after it was shot down.

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      @Vladimir .. Hmmm ..interesting..

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      Vladimir 2 years ago

      Where lists of the dead?

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      It was released by Malaysia Airlines on their website .. it should be there

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      Nancy 2 years ago

      You made great journalistic writing.

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      Vladimir 2 years ago

      @Hackslap When people died in the Moscow subway on July 15, list of dead and casualties published in many news sites the next day. Within a few days it replenished. If you know where list of those killed in the crash of a Boeing, then please give a link.

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      Daniel Baker 2 years ago from João Pessoa, Paraíba, Brazil

      I believe it was shot down on purpose, but for no apparent reason other than "trigger happy fingers".

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Trigger happy and drunk fingers Danielpages.....

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      Buildreps 2 years ago from Europe

      Nice subject, nicely deepened. It was a horrible accident. Russia made a mistake to supply advanced weaponry to a bunch of monkeys. I know two people who had their loved ones on board - hard to bear, especially when you see all the horrible details on TV.

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      Hendrika 2 years ago from Pretoria, South Africa

      Thank you for the well researched article. The governments are already changing their stories. I supposed to minimize the political problems, but I am still convinced that the plane was shot down

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thanks Buildreps and Hendrika for your comments - The plane was certainly shot down and something tells me it was a targeted attack and not an 'accident'..

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      Buildreps 2 years ago from Europe

      Agree Hackslap, it was a slip of the pen of my side. It was certainly shot down...

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      Nancy Tate Hellams 2 years ago from Pendleton, SC

      I don't believe it was an accident at all. I appreciate this well researched article.

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Thanks OhMe! .. yup i agree...something's too sus!

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      t aaron brown 2 years ago

      From the research you gathered and wrote upon here, do you have any commentary/opinion towards chaff dispensing systems and other avoidance tech for passenger airlines? Perhaps some regions should consider this more?

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      I believe Israel's El Al already has something of that nature deployed on its entire all-Boeing fleet ... I can't realily comment because my knowledge about these systems is low but yes Im of the opinion that major airlines flying through sensitive regions and air corridors should consider installing them

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      Demas W Jasper 2 years ago from Today's America and The World Beyond

      Even reading this months later, the question still remains: Who pays the price for this violent act which killed so many innocent victims? Where is justice? The same should apply to the 1988 shoot down of the Iranian commercial flight. We cannot have it one way when it is "them" and a different way when it is "us." Justice must be blind.

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      I agree ...The west's biggest problem is its own double-standards...we in the 'first world' thanks to an equally biased and uneducated media have come to believe that we're so perfect and 'human'. As Australian journalist John Pilger said in his documentary 'The War on Democracy'.. us in the west 'know' and are ready to 'punish' others for their crimes..while knowing nothing about our own

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      Consolacion Miravite 2 years ago from Philippines

      Reading this hub made me realized the horrors that befell the Malaysian Airlines recently. It is horrifying as these are barbaric acts against humanity. This incidents still give me nightmares every night. Btw, I only knew from your hub, that three Filipinos died in the plane crash. How sad!

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      I hope someday the victims (i.e. families) of both MH disasters find the closure they truly deserve

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      Nadine May 2 years ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

      Reading your article today, being from Holland myself, made me again realize that we all live in very turbulent times. Who really knows who the major players in all these violent acts around the globe are. That again nobody takes any responsibility for this hideous crime seems the norm, but it will all come out in the end for sure. My heartfelt sadness goes out to the family and friends of the innocent victims, who need to get on with their lives after they made closures.

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      Harry 2 years ago from Sydney, Australia

      Totally agree with your Nadine!

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