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Moving to Australia

Updated on February 20, 2012

Moving Overseas

Thinking about emigrating? Do you dream of Australia's perfect climate and stress-free lifestyle? Well its not all perfect but thousands of people immigrate to Australia every year and many only regret they didn't move to Australia sooner.

Emigration to Australia or anywhere else is a big step to take.Some people practically have a nervous breakdown just moving house - how much worse is moving to Australia?

Migration changes families for ever - and in ways you may not have considered. Not everyone makes it as a migrant: but Australia does boast a large number of expatriates who are very happy to call Australia home.

Is Emigrating to Australia Right for You?

Do you have the personal attributes to be a successful migrant? I have been a migrant, multiple times and have a lot of friends who have moved countries too. Here are some of the characteristics which seem to reflect the successful ones:

  • flexible: can you handle different ways of doing things, different priorities. Even if you currently live in an English speaking country don't expect Australia to be the same. In fact you would probably find a more English experience in some parts of Southern Spain than you will find in Australia.
  • sense of humour: you have to laugh at yourself and your assumptions - yes really you do! A sense of humour will see you through all the interesting cultural clash situations which will happen to you.
  • comfortable with your own company. Or if you are moving with your partner and/or other family comfortable with their company too. Even if you know someone at your destination you are still going to have to develop a day-to-day social life from scratch. Having kids will probably make this quicker but generally I find it takes at least a year to develop a social circle - it will take longer if you earn't working or are older. The old chestnut of joining clubs and hobby groups which reflect your interests really does work. Or take the opportunities offered to learn to surf, ride, 4WD, SCUBA dive, fish or any of the many sports and outdoor opportunities that Australia offers

Why Do You Want to Move to Australia?

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Scarborough Beach, Perth, Western Australia. Photo:lissie
Scarborough Beach, Perth, Western Australia. Photo:lissie

Australia and Australians: Do you have a realistic view ?

Australia really is a long, long way away. Yes the world is smaller than it ever has been and Internet and cheap calls make it easier to keep in touch - but Australia truly is a very,very far from home -in terms of travel time and costs. There is a reason that the English flock to Spain and the American retire to Mexico - yes both countries offer warmer climates, but they are also very close to home. If there is an emergency at home and you get on the next flight it is still going to be 2 or 3 days before you arrive.

Priscillia Queen of the Desert

Understand how Australian Society is Different

. There are plenty of tourist sites which will assure you that Australia is crime and drug and guns free. The truth is more complex. Australia has had ugly incidents: such as the race riots in Sydney, 2005 It had a mass shootings too at Port Arthur, Tasmania -where a lone insane gunman killed 36 people and forever ensured that Australia would have strict gun laws . The drug of choice throughout most of Australia is beer but the local wine industry is well-developed too. Seriously though binge drinking can be a problem amongst all age groups.

At the risk of being blunt: Australia is still developing from a racist, sexist, heterosexual male society. Its improved significantly over the last 20 years. Back then the movie Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, featuring 3 drag queens, would probably not been able to be made safely on location in Broken Hill, NSW. Although Melbourne and particularly Sydney have a vibrant gay and alternative lifestyle scene - this is still not the norm in most of Australia or even in cities such as Perth and Brisbane.

The skills shortage has seen many barriers to women's employment disappear (it took until the mid-1980s before married women living in Broken Hill could hold a non-professional job as the local unions banned them)but its definitely still a bit of a wild west out there in rural Australia.

Australia's record on race relations with the Aborigines is dismal and the real first Australians do not have political self-determination and suffer from third world levels of poverty and disease. Up until the 1960s Australia had an official "white Australia" policy which covered large numbers of post-war European immigrants but closed the country to Asian and Pacific Island emigration.

Again large cities have multi-cultural populations but mixed race couples may still get unwanted attention in smaller towns and the outback.

Broome, Western Australia.  Photo:lissie
Broome, Western Australia. Photo:lissie

What Would You Miss Most from Home if You Emigrated?

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What will migrating to Australia do to my family long-term

Migrating to Australia will fracture your family. That's not a threat it's a statement. You will leave some behind; you will move some with you. Even if you migrate as a young single the odds are that you will marry a local and have children who call a different country home. If you migrate with your children you fundamentally change their relationship with their grandparents and other close relatives. After a number of years you may want to return to your to home country: but your children may consider themselves Australian.

Consider the age of your children: even within Australian states the high school curricula are not standard. It is easiest to commit to living in a single country or Australian state for children's high school years. Once you have graduated high school it is usually easiest to gain university entry in the same country. Australia has a great education system but it is not, fundamentally multi-lingual society. If having your children grow up multilingual consider how you are going to achieve this.

Younger children rarely appear to have problems adapting to a new culture - remember though they will end up speaking "strine" whether you like it or not!

Moving locations won't solve your personal relationship problems. If your underlying problem is the relationship with your partner or your children, moving may not solve your problems, it may make them worse. Moving is stressful on all levels from the practical to the emotional - a dysfunctional relationship is not going to survive that. On the other hand if you really want to connect more with your family and become a stronger family unit, and limit contact with wider family members then moving to Australia will probably help.

Cape le Grand National Park, Western Australia, Photo:lissie
Cape le Grand National Park, Western Australia, Photo:lissie

Moving to Australia: For a Better Life

For a better life is the usual reason that people give when I ask them why they moved to Australia. It may be wise to consider what a better life means for you. If you love to surf, dive, 4WD, camp, drink and eat well then Australia will offer you years of entertainment. If however you are more interested in skiing, European fine art and culture, opera and orchestral music, then you will have more options elsewhere.

Moving to Australia won't necessarily solve your financial problems either. Salaries may look higher but are irrelevant. What determines your lifestyle is the difference between your income and your basic living expenses not your absolute income.

If you hate your actual job then a move to Australia won't help long-term. However if you like your job but hate the system you work in changing countries may help: it certainly seems to work for teachers and health care professionals.

If your profession requires licensing make sure you understand the costs and time frames for getting registered in the state you are interested in living in.

Alternative Employment? Garnet fossicking, Gemtree, Northern Territory, Australia. Photo: lissie
Alternative Employment? Garnet fossicking, Gemtree, Northern Territory, Australia. Photo: lissie

Permission to Work and Live in Australia

There are lots of sites out there, generally run by migration specialists, telling you how to get the correct visas and the requirements for moving to Australia. You don't have to use a migration agent and using one won't give your application priority - start with the official Australian Immigration Site for the correct, free information regarding visas Australia currently has a shortage of skilled workers. The list of occupations in demand changes from time to time but the following jobs are normally on the list:

accountants and teachers

engineers: chemical, manager, civil, mining, electrical, electronic

computer professionals with specialist skills such as linux, SAP, network security, Oracle

health care: dental, optometrist, podiatrist, psychologist, nurse

hospitality: chef, baker, pastry cook, cook

building trades: bricklayer, plumber, electrician, landscape gardener

other trades: mechanic, boilermaker.

There is current discussion of allowing short-term unskilled or semi-skilled foreigners to work in Australia in areas of seasonal demand such as harvest work and for roles such as cleaners in remote outback communities.

Where the Jobs in Australia are Located

Remember that shortages are nationwide - it does not necessarily follow that if you are determined to move to a particular town that you will necessarily get a job in that town. The China-led resource boom means that both Queensland and Western Australia, and more recently South Australia are booming and there is a huge demand for any trade associated with mining plus ancillary jobs in the building and hospitality trades. In contrast Sydney is still suffering from very high house prices and a flat employment market.

Most Australians are employed in the services sector but many government jobs require citizenship which may mean that moving to Canberra is going to limit your job opportunities

Bell Gorge, Western Australia, Photo: lissie
Bell Gorge, Western Australia, Photo: lissie

Spoof of Australia Movie: Funny

Budget for Moving to Australia

Moving to Australia you will need to develop a credit history from scratch. Opening a bank account from outside the country is straightforward - and by far the cheapest way to transfer large amounts of cash. You will not immediately qualify for a credit card until you have a job. Make sure that existing cards keep working in your home country - make sure you maintain a postal address which will stop the card's statement being returned for example. Until you have a residential address, not a post Box, you will not be able to prove your identity for items such as police checks (essential for most jobs), car licenses etc. Having a relative or trusted friend in the same state came be very useful to start this paper trail going. Once you have the local driving licence it all becomes a lot easier.

Consumer goods and clothing are relatively cheap in Australia and shipping costs are relatively high. You may want to consider shipping little and buying most when you arrive.

Costs of a Move to Australia

Visas and Passports including required documentation, vaccinations, health checks etc.

Shipping Costs.

Storage costs for items left at home

Costs associated with selling or renting your home.

Airfares and any stop over on the way to Australia

Initial Costs in Australia

Arriving without accommodation or transport makes it difficult to acquire both. Budget for 2-3 weeks of accommodation in a self-contained apartment or hostel and a rental car. Assuming that you intend to rent for the first few months, even if you later buy, then 2-3 weeks should be long enough to find a place.

Avoid arriving in January, February as this is when rental demand peaks. Also avoid arriving too near Christmas as the entire real estate industry takes 2 weeks off.

Rent a car to ensure that you are mobile enough to buy one. Budget for a mechanical inspection unless you are mechanically competent and expect it to take a few days to transfer the papers. The paperwork will be easier if in the meanwhile you have acquired local drivers licenses.

Setup Costs in Australia

Access to three months living expenses while you are looking for employment.

Rental Bond and Rent in Advance: could be up to 4 weeks in total varies by state.

Vehicles: purchase, inspection, transfer fees, licence fees, insurance.

Drivers Licences

Police clearance required for many non-professional jobs.

Bonds for telephone, utility companies

Mobile Phone, Broadband connection, Pay TV (broadcast TV is free)

School uniforms and school fees

Would You Buy an e-book on Migrating to Australia ?

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My Experience with Emigration and a Request

I am the child of immigrants and a migrant myself. I am a New Zealander currently living in Australia for the second time. I have also lived in Canada and the UK for extended periods of time. I was born in England but my New Zealand mother returned home with her English husband and two UK born children.

I am considering writing an e-book and would appreciate your feedback in the poll to the right.

Emigration is both easier and more difficult than it ever has been. My mother was away from home for over 10 years, most modern immigrants can afford to return home every year or so. On the other hand visas are a fairly new requirement and waving the passport of the former colonial power will NOT get you entry to Australia without a Visa!

What's your experience of emigration? Are you considering it? Have you been affected by friends or family moving overseas? Have you migrated and then regretted it?

Please leave me a comment below I'd love to hear your experience. I'd also appreciate if you will would respond to the poll to the right if you are genuinely interested in the topic.

For more links to useful Australian sites see below the comments.

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      Mothers of Nations 3 years ago

      Awesome article! Very useful info. Thank you. God bless you.

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      Ruby S. 3 years ago

      I have friends that migrate in Australia. It took months before she was able to find a job.

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      nz seems like a relaxed & peaceful country, but i'm uncertain regarding their opporunities & education. I heard it's good in Aus! I'm still indecisive

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      Fran62 4 years ago

      Hi all, my fiance is Welsh and has lodged his fiance visa application to emigrate here. Hopefully this will go smoothly as there are no real complications (both single, never married, no children, never will be etc). But for those of you interested in coming here can I add my few cents worth?

      Firstly, snakes and spiders. bwahahahaha. Okay now that's over, spiders yeah there are a lot. The little ones are nasty the big ones are okay. The really big ones (huntsmen etc) make good house pets (honest). Unfortunately in three months my fiance only saw redbacks which was a bit of a pity. Snakes are more scared of you then you are of them. If it's black its poisonous but think of it as a venomous labrador, don't get too close and let it live it's own life. They are great for getting rid of mice and rats. Brown ones are the worst, let them pass, DO NOT GO NEAR THEM. But on the other hand most people don't see them anyway and as I live in a regional area probably have had more to do with snakes than most urbanite Australians. I've seen maybe half a dozen when walking through the bush in the past 20 years.

      If you are coming here and decide to show the colonials how things are done - stay in the UK. Don't perpetuate the ugly English or the whinging pom and the worst or all, the septic American! We are making huge mistakes, most Australians don't realise this fact and take offense when it's pointed out, so my fiance (and myself if the truth be told) have decided the easiest way to cope with it is just to keep quiet.

      You get a lot more money for jobs but as it was pointed out that is irrelevant as your lifestyle dictates how much money you have. Housing prices are not cheap even in regional Australia (I'm in the Hunter Valley), you will probably need a car that will cost twice as much in Australia as it does in the UK and you will have to drive everywhere for long distances. Something that caught my fiance unaware and the fact that I don't think it's unusual to drive for 2 or 3 hours to have lunch and then drive back no problems.

      Wombats, Tassie Devils and Quolls are far better than Koalas anyday (that from my Welsh fiance) and Koalas are overrated. Kangaroos and Wallabies are not endangered, they are everywhere. Don't scream when you see a Goanna (you may even call them monitor lizards), but don't feed them either, they will bring their mates back for seconds (thirds, fourths .... Goanna's are really cool (that again from my fiance).

      Work is not as easy to find unless you are a tradesman, nurse, teacher or anything else on the list of jobs. My fiance is an environmental researcher, not on the A list of jobs (lol) and is going to have difficulty. For women who want to work part time in secretarial or retails jobs in regional areas be prepared to wait, there's not enough jobs to go around anyway. Don't take rejection personally.

      Take everything you hear about Indigenous/Aboriginal issues (there is a difference between Indigenous and Aboriginal which I won't go into here) with a grain of salt - this is not apartheid era South Africa. I work/live closely with Indigenous people, many Aboriginal friends and close family, and even my fiance has noticed the inconsistency in the complaints. It will take another few generations before the issues are resolved, so don't come out here and lecture us on race relations. This is particularly aimed at the English and Americans who do it to us. I recently had to break up an almost race riot where I work when the Aboriginal people innocently made comments that a visiting African American man was really white. The American didn't understand and took offense. The Aboriginal people didn't understand why the American was offended and took offense etc. etc. This is a foreign country with our own customs, beliefs and quirks.

      This is a foreign country, please remember that.

      Our public service is as bad the UK Civil service.

      My fiance has mentioned many times that we are really 20 years behind the UK and that in many ways is a good thing.

      Our health system is far better than you realise. Use it properly and you will have no problems - go mad and think everything is free and it will cost you a fortune and it will be as complicated and as bad as it can be.

      We drink less than the Brits.

      Soccer is soccer, football is league, union or AFL.

      The further you go away from the major cities (Sydney Melbourne etc) the whiter the people are and they still think the White Australia policy is the way to go. Just let them rave and keep quiet (my personal experience after moving from Sydney).

      In regional Australia openly gay men are accepted where gay women, educated women and anyone who is not white are not. Things are changing slowly.

      That's all I can think of for now. Wish us luck with the fiance visa.

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      Anna 5 years ago

      @Sherrie Anderson.

      I moved here with my family last year. My husband had a job lined up and the company who employed him paid all our moving expenses. That said, moving abroad is very stressful. We only came because we had no work in Ireland. I would not have come otherwise. My advice to you would be to take a long holiday here so that you can look into job prospects and get a first hand idea of the cost of living here. Giving up a good job is risky in todays global financial climate, but at the end of the day whatever you decide, I wish you luck.

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      Sheila 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie. My husband and I are thinking about moving there can you tell me what part of the island is best for truckers and housekeepers.

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      Sherrie Anderson 5 years ago

      Hello Lissie. I think I might have my husband talked into movie either to Australia or New Zealand. Not sure yet. He has a great job here, but the warmer weather in parts of Australia would be great for us. He is 51 and I am 50 years old. I am retired, but he's not. So many things to do or ask. Not sure to where to start. I know it would take about a year or more to move there, would it be easier to have a job already lined up? But then again how can you have a job lined up a year inadvance? Too many question. Could you please help me? Thank you

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      Sonali 5 years ago

      I am going to move to Australia in a few weeks. Trust me I am getting jittery day by day. Packing ckin and more packing no end to it. Moving with a 14 month old daughter. I feel for her as it's gonna be lonely for her. She is attached to her grand parents and will miss them loads. She is not fond of travelling and hates da car seat. Gosh!! I am just crossing my finger to be honest I just want a ginnie who can just yes my master me and do everything in a blink of an eye. Lol.

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      Alan 5 years ago

      I just came back from my visit in Australia. The costs of living is very expensive in both Melbourne and Sydney compared to ASEAN countries. With the experience, I think that to survive decently a family of 2 kids would need to spend at least AUD4,000 per month including a unit rental.

      With this amount of money, the same family can live in a luxury life in ASEAN countries. But, with the health care and education for children, Australian is still the place for children

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      Locksheema 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie,

      I did see a comment someone earlier, about being an insulin dependant diabetic. However, I didn't see an answer.

      I am an insulin dependant diabetic, and have been married to an Australian citizen for just over 6 years (we were actually married in Australia). We have 2 sons. As a Diabetic, should I apply for a spousal visa, will that be a big negative?

      All of her mom's side of the family (big catholic) family is over there. Her folks and siblings are all there as well. I also have a cousin living there as well as many friends, amongst them Tony Greig (my aunts brother). If I were to apply, how do you think it would go?

      Thanks,

      Ryan

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      TAIATASH 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie

      I am just writing in regards to the whole moving from new Zealand we r a young family with 4 young kids aged 6,5,3,1 and wondering if you could plz give me some advice on moving over...with the hope of better jobs better money better life style for us all.would know have an idea on a realistic amount to save and move with?the cost of renting roughly even ifs it a 3 bedroom...and any suggestions on how to get someone who untrained for the mining buzzo into it :) thank u kindly for taking the time 2 read n reply to this :)

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      An. S. 5 years ago

      Hi,

      thanks for all the comments and all the information. Me and my boyfriend (4yrs together) are considering moving to Australia. We have a different case because we live in Mexico, and the situation here is getting pretty bad to consider or even think about having a family here. I can't imagine raising kids here where you have to get used to this level of insecurity and delincuency. I love my country in so many ways, but it just seems like it's going all downhill and seems like no one can do anything about it. The cultural set of mind is very traditional and hard to change, and so people have their own stuck ideas, which will not help moving forward. When the situation is like we have it here, you need to think outside the box, and most people don't.

      Anyway, he's an automotive mechanic with like 10 yrs experience in Toyota, Nissan, BMW cars, he's been working since he was like 16 and loves to do this, and I'm a psychologist, currently working for HP (Hewlett Packard) and soon for the government in my own area (applying psychological tests, doing psychological interviews, etc,) I've read that without "local experience" it is harder to get a job, but I wonder since we've worked for international companies, and I'll be working for the government, could that help in anyway??

      I know that compared to Mexico, Australia will be more expensive, but I also know that salaries are better. I've searched for costs of living, and I believe we would be able to make it, as most internet sites consider some things as "relevant", and for us I know that that's not basic. We are much more simple than that, so I don't think I'd be that hard for us to have a better life and consider starting our own family. We're still young, and have considered other places but Australia seems to be the country that we both agree that we really really like for what we have heard and read.

      So basic questions that I haven't been able to find (I've searched on this topics for a while but doesn't seem like I have a response anywhere):

      Would there be a place where we can both live and work in our profession/area? If so, which area is recommended for us?

      Would it make it a better possibility for us to get a job since we've worked for international companies?

      both of us have taken internet tests for our chances to live in Australia and getting a visa and everything, and we were both told separately that we can apply for a "State Sponsored visa" but since this requires that we stay in one same city for like 2 years, I'm afraid that we both apply and get told that we must go to different cities if we want to live in Australia... any advice on this? should we apply for different type of visa?

      I was also thinking about applying for a student visa, but I've investigated much on universities, and requirements to do a Master's Degree, etc..

      I think, everyone tells their story as how they did, and some people had a good experience, and some had bad, some struggled for a while but then got better, but to all readers: every experience is different.

      I've lived in the US for a year, and in two different cities in Mexico, and have found that it's not that difficult for me to adapt, but anyway, I know this would be a big difference and big change, and I would also be moving with my boyfriend so that will be different asd well..

      we're considering on moving there in about a year of so, if everything goes well, and if we can apply for the visa and if we get it and all that.. but we're thinking about it for a while, and we thought we could start investigating on this since now!

      any help and/or comment will be much appreciated!

      have a lovely day everyone! and thanks for reading me!

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      Anna 5 years ago

      My husband and I moved to Perth with our four children (18-12 years old) in October 2011. We are Irish and we have a house in Europe which we have not been able to sell. We had not planned to move to Australia but with the employment situation being what it is in Ireland we had no choice. We were very fortunate in that my husband found a job in western Australia before we moved out here and his company sponsored him for a four year 457 visa.

      We are glad and grateful for the opportunity to live and work here but had there been any work for my husband anywhere in Europe, we would have stayed there. The cost of living here is mind boggling! Everything from the cost of renting a house to food bills is high.

      My children are settling in well though and we like living here. I doubt very much that my husband and I will ever be able to afford a house here as not having sold our own we would take years to save up a deposit and house prices are high. At the moment our plans are to work here as long as we can and more than likely we will be leaving grown up children here when we retire back to our home in Europe. It's a great country for the young.

      If we had come ten to fifteen years ago when we were just starting out, it would have been much easier for us to consider staying here for life, but with all our financial ties to Europe, it would be difficult for my husband and I to stay here forever.

      Overall, I would say that Australians are friendly and welcoming and that Australia is well worth moving to. I only wish that I'd thought of coming when I was in my twenties.

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      annao'neil 5 years ago

      hi im thinking of moving to australia but the problem i have is i have very little money and 3 children.. i have a NVQ in computers but this is just a qualification as i havnt actually used this in any of my jobs... i have no trade so im assuming work will be hard to find especially with 3 children in tow... any information right now will be very helpfull as i want a better life for me and my children

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      fay 5 years ago

      i currently just moved to australia. i am highly qualified, female.i rarely drink and i want to work. i cant find a job and i look and post CV's every day.i am losing heart.i find my nationality is questioned and frowned upon.

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      Alan 5 years ago

      Hi Msao,

      Good to hear we have similar situation. I also think about the option for my wife and children to stay in Australia first. But, stay away from family for 4/5 years is too long although we can visit each others.

      Based on my understanding, after you stay in Australia for 2 years, you can apply for Resident Return Visa (RRV) for 5 years. When you have RRV, your husband can also apply for RRV without a need to stay in Australia for 2 years. The RRV allows you and your husband to retain the PR status when you and your husband stay/travel outside Australia after initial 5 year PR visa is expired. For citizenship, although you and your children are granted citizenship, your husband will not be automatically eligible to apply for citizenship without staying in Australia for 4 years out of 5 year period.

      I'll visit Melbourne in April to validate the PR visa. Then, I will keep monitoring the development in my home country and Australia before making a final decision on the option. But, it seems that Australia is not the place to make money, but to spend money. Cost of living in Australia is among the most expensive cities in the world. I can't imagine one kilo of banana can cost up to AUD 14 in some seasons. In my home country, it costs around 50 cents only per kilo. However, it is still ranked as one of the most livable cities in the world. It is a difficult decision and we have to balance the pro and con.

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @Dani

      You are kidding right? You don't think that ever kid who grows up on the beach in Aussie doesn't dream of being a surfer instructor? You may have a hope if you can bring language skills to the mix - but I'd die laughing if I ever saw "surfer instructor" on the skills list! What country are you from - you should be able to get a working holiday visa at your age

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @Annette

      You daughter and partner would need to apply and get visas and they may (depending on which other children you have and where they live) get you out of a "family" visa. I really have no idea how likely it is as a) I don't know your nationality or how your family's skills fit with what Australia wants at the moment

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @Bruce

      I have no real idea - I'm not Asian - I would say it would vary dramatically depending on which city you ended up in. You really need to talk to Asian immigrants to understand.

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      Dani 5 years ago

      Hi Lizzie,

      This article is really helpful! I am a 21 year old that is desperate to move out there as soon as financially possible!

      I dont know whether you would know but what is the job vacancy like for surfing instructors out there? I can imagine there are a lot of people trying to get into this industry but i was just wondering if you had any inside info!

      Again great article, thank you!!

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      Hardik 5 years ago

      Lizzie, wonderful information,I am working in Information Technology - Software industry and planning to apply for PR of Australia. I am fearing with the IT market and job chances because i am planning to move Australia with partner and child.

      if possible please suggest about the market and current scope for IT people.

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      Annette 5 years ago

      Hi Lizzie,

      I hope you can help. My daughter Kelly is 30 and partner Carl is 27. They have 2 children. Carl is being made redundant in October and so they will be out of work. They are in rented accommodation so no house to sell. What are the chances of them moving to Australia? Kelly has her nvq, but Carl has only worked in a factory for nine years. He can put his hand to anything and would rent till they can buy. Me and my husband want to go with them but don't know if we are too old. My husband is 55 and always been a hgv driver and I am 50. I could watch the children while they both work. Please say there's a way.

      Thanks

      Annette

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      bruce 5 years ago

      Hi Lizzie,

      How hard for an Asian to assimilate in Australia? For sure it is easier for a Caucasian than an Asian to live in Australia. How will you compare Australia to other developed countries that you have been to in terms of racial discrimination?

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      Annette 5 years ago

      Hi Lizzie,

      I hope you can help. My daughter Kelly is 30 and partner Carl is 27. They have 2 children. Carl is being made redundant in October and so they will be out of work. They are in rented accommodation so no house to sell. What are the chances of them moving to Australia? Kelly has her nvq, but Carl has only worked in a factory for nine years. He can put his hand to anything and would rent till they can buy. Me and my husband want to go with them but don't know if we are too old. My husband is 55 and always been a hgv driver and I am 50. I could watch the children while they both work. Please say there's a way.

      Thanks

      Annette

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      tina 5 years ago

      Lizzie, great blog and very helpful. I have what feels like a huge hurdle and that is the proper job skill. They used to have a general skills on the list but its gone now. I have lots of Uni education, and many years of experience in Sales, up to VP of Sales, but it seems all this experience is not specific enough for the skills list.

      I'm Canadian, from Vancouver, who is sick of the rainy weather, so I took off to San Diego, cAlifornia and have been here for 4 yrs but I'm so tired of rude americans who feel being an aquaintence is good enough for friends. It's extremely hard to make friends here and I pride myself in my social skills in any other country, but here people are simply nervous and suspicious of anyone not from here or speaks better than them.

      Anyways, I am beginning to get to the depressed state of life because I have no idea how to move forward and get to australia where I have plenty of friends from my past travels there. now that I"m older I fear my chance for visa, or anything may just elude me.

      Suppose this is more of a vent than a question statement. Still good blog, if you have any suggestions on getting there I'd love to hear it.

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      Msao 5 years ago

      @Alan: We are in the same situation as you (surprising how identical it is). We are considering that I will move and stay in Australia for 4/5 years in order to get the citizenship. My husband who is earning more here will keep staying to make it financially safe, at least for the first period when I am seeking for a job in Australia. The biggest disavantage is that we do not stay together for a long time but my husband and I and children can travel back and forth. Some of my friends also go abroad for study, leaving family home for a while and they can make it.

      @Lissie: If I can secure my status as PR and then Citizenship, then my family's status will be similarly secured (supposed to some documentation work to be done), right? Thanks a lot for your site, God bless you for this!!!

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      Pacific 5 years ago

      My Observations of Aussies while living here in Hong Kong have dampened and removed any interests I ever had in living in "Down Under" I find the bulk of them to be rude and arrogant...I will stay in the USA and Asia, but thanks for this site, very good information here....

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      Anil 5 years ago

      Hi friends

      I got my PR and moving to Melbourne permanently with my wife and 6 yr old son. How much will be the initial setup cost and can anybody please explain the process as tasks. Like arranging accommodation, food, schooling, job searching, utilities, tax file and the rest.

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      emmarita 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie,

      Thank you for posting all this wonderful information! I was wondering if you might be able to answer a question I have or possibly offer advice... I am a 36 yr old American. 2 yrs ago I met the man of my dreams - an Aussie. We have been communicating at least several times a week for the past 2 years. I recently visited him for 5 weeks on a tourist visa and we decided we want to be together. I am super keen to move to Australia (Cairns). I have a Master's degree in Marine Biologist and have been working in that field for 10 years. My boyfriend has a few potential jobs in mind and with his connections I might be able to land a job. My question is: Would I actually be able to take a job and get a work visa, even though my occupation is not on the SOL?

      Any advice?

      I am so ready to be back in Oz with the love of my life but feel discouraged about the visa situation...

      your advice is much appreciated!

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      mikolo 5 years ago

      nice and cool article.

      I am a Nigerian with a wife a kid.Our salary both combined annually is $20,000.

      I want to migrate to Australia for a better life with my family.

      i want to know if with my qualification in business administration and 4 years working experience.i qualified for the skilled sponsored visa,will i be able to get a good job to start a living in Australia?

      My wife is a fashion designer.

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      Anna 5 years ago

      Hi My Name Anna is and I am 25 years old, I am currently living in USA, but we are citizen of another country and me and my family want to move to Australia for permanent living for a long time, or to New Zealand, I am also studding wines, international wine sommelier, any options on how we do that? I tried to apply for jobs online, but they are off course asking AU or NZ documents which I don't have.

      Please could you tell me.

      Thank you

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      juie 5 years ago

      What about trying The Blue Mountains. Very pretty. Not as hot as Sydney. Regular train services to Sydney. 1 every hour off peak. More often during peak hours. Housing is more avoidable. Great place to bring kids up in.

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      Alan 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie, thank you for your comments. Honestly, we are making good money in Vietnam and it may be true that we can save more than many Australians. I understand the tax in Australia is high and costs of living also high. Hence, savings are lower if we make similar income. It is even worse if I move to Australia and could not get a job there.

      I also think about temporary stay there to get my citizenship and then move back to Vietnam. But, I need to stay at least 4 years to be eligible to apply for citizenship. It will also take sometime to process until the citizenship is granted. Hence, I may need to stay at least 5 years.

      I can also choose to stay in Australia for 2 years to be eligible to apply for extension of my permanent resident visa for another 5 years.

      I don't have any problem to take a break for 2 years, but the biggest issue for me is to give up opportunity that I currently have. If I decide to leave my current job, it is very likely that I will not be able to resume my career with the same company when I am back. I would be so much regretful if I have to give up the opportunity. I have a good career prospect with the current company.

      In Vietnam, I can live comfortably with good money. But, there are other good reasons that I want to migrate to Australia. Political stability and security is one thing. Children educations and their future are very important for most Asian family including myself. If my children hold Vietnamese passport, they won't have great opportunity as if they hold Australian passport and are educated in Australian. Their careers are generally limited to Vietnam market only. Outside Vietnam, it is difficult for them to get recognition. Another important issue is quality of health care. Health care in Vietnam is poor and if we happen to have chronic disease at older age, it is difficult to have good long-term medication. Life is unstable and no one know what will happen. This is also reason that I want to retire in Australia, but will see the circumstances.

      I can understand that Australians want to retire in cheaper country. But, the good thing about them is that they can always return back to Australia if they are not happy with the country they move or if anything bad happen to them. Having Vietnam passport, we don't have much choice where we want to go or retire.

      It would nice to hear your further comments on whether I should move to Australia or not. Thanks

      Have a nice day!

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      danielle from uk 5 years ago

      hi i have enjoyed reading this! i am looking to emigrate to freemantel i have a fiance and 2 children 4 and 8.I was wondering if we had to pay school fees i am a qualified teaching assistant and hairdresser i am soo scared that i will miss my family here but i am sure they will visit alot would you say it is a safe place to live i just want the best for my kids and their future.

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @Alan - what an interesting question - if you are saving US$200k - you are doing a lot better than most people in Australia I can assure you. Your last point is the most valid though - having an Australian passport would make a huge difference to being able to travel.

      Just a thought - could you go relatively short-term- how long do you have to stay to get citizenship for you and your family. Then if you want to you could return to Vietnam - at least on a part-time basis?

      Curiously many Australians would consider retiring to cheaper country in Asia- I've never seen an Asian looking to retire to Australia - a sign of the times I think!

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      Nicola Sheppard 5 years ago

      Hi I am a 17 year old from england looking to move to australia once i finish university and am a qualified veterinary nurse. Although this has been a life ambition i am not sure which part of australia would be best. Any help anyone?? thanks !!

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      Alan 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie,

      Thank you so much for very realistic information about immigration to Australia. I am Vietnamese and currently living and working in Vietnam. I and my family (wife and two young kids) has obtained Australian Permanent Resident visa under skill migrant since 4 last year. So far, I visited Australia once a year. The visa is valid for 5 years, meaning I have one more year left to decide whether to permanently move to live in Australia.

      Currently, I and my wife have very good jobs in Vietnam and we can have a net savings of around $200k per year. The company also provides various supports including payment for my kids' international school, comprehensive international health insurance etc. Basically, I can live comfortably in Vietnam at the moment.

      I have searched on various websites and discussed with friends who live in Australia and I understand that it is difficult to get a job there as English is not my native language and I don't have local experience in Australia.

      It is a very difficult decision that I have to make whether my wife and I should give up all the opportunities in Vietnam and migrate to Australia. For children, i understand it is better for them to grow up in Australia and have good education there. I also concern about the country risk in Vietnam that anything can happen to me, unlike in Australia where I feel it is more stable and secure. Also, I really want to have Australian passports so that it is a lot easy for me to travel and I can retire in Australia.

      I would very much appreciate it if you and others could share your ideas whether I should migrate.

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @Sue - sounds like an awesome opportunity! I should think it would be the adventure of a life time for your kids as well. The climate is a bit crap in the "wet" - how much leave will your partner get? I'd guess the wet will also be a down time for construction - so you could always take a long Xmas holiday at that time!

      Marc - you need thousands for visas and tests - I have no idea - but you're unemployed - so why not take the time - find out the fees from the Australian embassy site, price some airfares, and take any job at all to start saving?

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      marc nelson 5 years ago

      i am a 22yr old electrician i currently live in scotland i have been unemployed for about a year and there is no sign of any jobs coming soon the countries went to sh*t

      i sat my apprenticeship and from day 1 i always wanted to come to australia but but now that i'm not working and hardly got a penny to my name how much would i need to pay out on visas and living allowance when i arrive in australia?

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      sue 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie

      You sound like such a level headed person!

      I have really appreciated this site.

      My husband has been offered a transfer from London to darwin, australia. He works in construction. He is really excited and believes it would be good for his career as well as financially. I could get a work visa through his company too. we have two children under school age and i currently work part time.

      Basically i am just weighing up what i would be giving up with the potential for adventure and broadening all of our experience. I have travelled a lot when single and loved doing so, but as a mother I find the idea much more intimidating. I have a good circle of friends and am very close to my mum who is in her seventies.

      I also have concerns about the climate in Darwin and the distance from other places.

      any advice appreciated!

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      roksana 5 years ago

      i want to move aus from bangladesh with my 2 years son,having a job purpose....can u guys tell me how???thanks...

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      jacqueline Mcdonald 5 years ago

      Hi lissie, your information was very helpful and realistic about moving to Australia. Its always been a dream of mine, why i dont know but its defo a big dream! just today my husband has told me that he has been approached by his company in Scotland to possible go to Oz and help recover a company from failing. Its like a sign...could it lead to the opportunity of a lifetime? It could be...im so exited. A big commitment but its a golden opportunity. Its hard to get the proper info as to where me and our daughter would stand in a visa application. My fear is that i do not work (due to health reasons) but do have a good skills base for when i can. Can you give me some advice please? thank you

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      lisa l 5 years ago

      thanks lissie we will look into it further we were i canberra just b4 xmas and went into the imigration offices and basically told us what u said that she is 27 and an adult and to look it up on the internet on one of their visa sites wich we have done but every way we go comes to a stop :( anyway ty for ur feed back i will let u no how we get on :)

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @Lisa - reading between the lines on the next comment below yours - Karen's she may be able to apply for some sort of visa under keeping the family together. Most governments (and people) though would consider a 27-year-old as an independent adult. What does the sponsoring agency have to say - presumably you told them your circumstances from the start?

      @Karen - to be blunt - the Australian government doesn't care. Lets face it there are thousands of stories a year of refugees who have nothing, no home, no money, nothing - being turned away from Australia. If you can't get in under the family reunification thing - then basically you haven't a hope. As you say retraining isn't realistic - and you may well end up find that the rules change on your anyways.

      Also what about your son's father ? In this part of the world you can't just remove a child from a country if the other parent has any sort of custody rights

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      Karen 5 years ago

      Hey, Im wondering if anyone can help me as I feel like Im constantly hitting a brick wall at the moment. Im a single mum who is fast approaching 30 in the next few months and Im desperate to emmigrate to Aus but I am finding it impossible. My parents moved out there over 5 years ago with my younger brother and sister and I have been over to visit them in Melbourne twice now and feel like I should be there with them, Im so close to my family, they really mean the world to me and my 8 yr old son. I am currently qualified as nursery nurse but this qualification isnt recognised in Aus, Ive had experience in working in private nurseries and I am now working in a primary school as a teaching assistant and have been for the last 2-3 years, I have a 2nd job as a playwork officer where I am in charge of an afterschool club and playscheme club during the school holidays, I have always worked hard to support myself and my son and never been out of work. As my profession isnt on the skills list and Ive looked in to teaching but that will take far too long as its 4 years of training and then they want me to have 5 yrs experience behind me it just isnt an option, I am unhappy in England and just want to be with my family, nobody seems to understand how much I want it. I have 2 jobs so training on top of that would make things very difficult. Unfortunately I cant even get over there on being the last remaining relative because I have a younger brother living here in the UK and he has no intentions of going over there. I think these rules are wrong, although I understand Australias strictness on letting people in to the country I dont see why I should be penalised if my brother wants to stay here. I feel so lonely not having my family around me and they are missing out on their grandson growing up. I know my son would have a much better laife in Aus and myself also, Im not afraid of hard work just want to be given a chance over there and I will do anything aslong as Im near my family, Im finding it impossible and all the knockbacks are really getting me down. Please if anyone has any ideas or suggestions on how I can emmigrate to Melbourne with my son I would be very, very grateful x

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      lisa l 5 years ago

      what a wonderful thing u r doing for everyone :D my husband and i and my 3 kiddies all have our visas got sponsered by act gov :) but i do have one prob u may be able to help me with, i have a 27 year old daughter who has never left home has no qualifications has no job but helps me raising my other 3 whilst my husband and i work she is a huge part of this fam and we cant go without her :( can u suggest any way u think we can work around this ? i would be very very grateful thanku

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      Angelina 5 years ago

      Me and my husband we are both 31 and we would like to migrate to Australia. I'm want to get my Master degree there and my husband to apply for dependent visa. But because of the age we are not sure if later we can apply for residency. You have very good overview on all the aspects of the country. Thank you it was very helpful.

      Regards,

      Angelina

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      Cricket 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie, This is an amazing page, so much information! I'm having a heck of a time getting an answer to my question anywhere on the web. I'm 37, from the US and have two young children. I'm a widow and support myself with a "trust" for lack of a better word. I want to move to Queensland permanently but don't know what kind of visa suits me. There's no such thing as a visa for someone with independent means. I tried to call the Australian Consulate in Washington DC (which is in Ottawa Canada for some reason!) and they said the call would cost $4 per minute! I had no idea migrating was such a process. Have you ever heard of my scenario before? Thanks for your time and again, great page!

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      Shelly 5 years ago

      They don't look the biggest of places but have a shared pool, bar b area n gym so may be a chance I'll get to know people.

      I currently live in Birmingham city centre on the canal, it's 4 minutes to work. If we want to fly to Edinburgh it only takes 50 minutes and driving to London is a no no so we get the train. It's so small over here. I only spent a month in Oz but it soon hit me how big it is. My husband drives but I'd love to be able to learn.

      Have been looking through my clothes and realised that unless Brisbane falls into an ice age I'll be bringing hardly anything over with me :) may have to treat myself to some new clothes when I get there. Or maybe wait until I get a job so I'm. Not sponging off my hudband.

      Thanks again, a very excited Shelly

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      Sounds exciting Shelly! Fully furnished is not common in Australia - most places (unless they are very small inner city apartments usually for short-term 1-2 months).

      In Perth we got a semi furnished place (bed/table/fridge/washing machine/lounge suie) - we bought the rest for a few hundreds from cash converters and other 2nd hand places as we knew we'd leave in a couple of years. At the end we sold/gave away with little trouble or loss.

      You should definitly get a driver's license ASAP - I can't believe how people survive without one in the uK - in Australia its really not an option!

      There are heaps of driving schools - it won't be a problem - one issue is that licenses are state based - so you will need to swap a Qlds license for NSW if you move to Sydney. This is a straight swap (no new test) for a full license - I don't know how that works if you don't have a full license. Find out when you get to Qlds - not a biggie - but weird if you are used to country wide license system!

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      Shelly 5 years ago

      Hello Lissie,

      It's me again. My husbands contract comes out next week so Visas pending we should be going to Brisbane for the end of Feb early March. We are thinking of renting a fully furnished place in the city centre until we know if we get a transfer to Sydney after a year. I'm so excited :) nervous but excited.

      I don't hold a driving license, how easy would it be for me to have lessons and get one ?

      Thanking you in advance Shelly

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      Blackbeard 5 years ago

      Happy New Year to all, I wish I could get a Job offer in Aus, Could anybody help with a contact that helps IT Geeks, or is it best to just keep googling and sending CV's? Next year I will get bonus leave and come over for a few weeks manual search, sight seeing and visit.

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      Shelly 5 years ago

      Thanks Lissie, that's very useful. It seems my sisters my inherit a new wardrobe :(

      Will look into the Car for sure. Yes I have some books i read and loads I haven't read yet so I'll consider bringing a pile. Have loads of cookery books and are very much looking forward to delevoping my passion for cooking in another country.

      I'm sure I may be back on here to ask more questions once the official offer comes through. Thanks again x

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      EVERYONE I will continue to delete comments which include emails - I can't edit comments on this site and for your own protection you should not be publishing your emails!

      I also can't help you get a house/job/girl friend!

      @desil - there is plenty of work for drivers - but it sounds like you need to convince your husband -otherwise its not really happening is it?

      @Shelley - if the co is paying relocation - bring everything - make sure they pack it too! If there are limits then - yes books are expensive, but do you actually re-read the ones you have?

      The TV/videos won't work (different system) and all electrical will need new plugs (not a biggy, but a pain).

      You won't need any of those winter coats or boots you probably have in England. You will also probably find that your style of cooking changes quite a lot to reflect the climate.

      Leaving stuff in storage, in my experience is invariably a waste of money. Cars are quite expensive - if you have a good one consider bringing it over - but you will need to know the costs re importing it (state dependent)

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      Shelly 5 years ago

      Apologise, I have just re read my message. Think I am getting ahead of myself and over excited.

      My question should have been... If successful we will be coming over from the UK. I was wondering if there are any things that are difficult or expensive to buy in Oz that we are best to bring. The package looks really good $160,000k health care, 247 visa think that's the one, accomodation for a month, relocation costs and help finding

      somewhere to live. I'm happy to leave some things in storage here but if relocation costs are covered then it may work out better to bring them over. When I came over I found a book was very expensive to buy & we have loads !!!! I do hope it happens. This site really has been the most useful so far, varied and open. So thankyou very much :)

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      Shelly 5 years ago

      Hi,

      well it sure has been an interesting read. My husband and I are awaiting an offical job offer(hopefully next week). Unsure if it will be Brisbane or Sydney. Relocation costs, Visa, accomodation for a month and help finding somewhere after. My question to you or anyone who can help is what is best to bring over, even if it seems like a silly thing like cosmetics, books etc. Very nervous very excited and just hoping I can find a job too. We are 34 & 35 no children and outgoing. Spent a month in Sydney & Melbourne so hoping Sydney it will be, but we really don't mind and are looking forward to a change. X thanks

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      desil2005 5 years ago

      hiya i am wanting to move to perth, my partner on the other hand is not that into it, he is a heavey goods driving licence and he is also a road maintance man age 30 i am 28 a stay at home mother to 4 children ages 10,8,5,1 i also drive, we own our own home here in the uk and would have some savings but he is just a little scared with having 4 children and doing such a big move on our own with no family we have some family that live in perth that would love to see us and help us with the move its just scarey ha ha what will living be like for us 4 children over there as i would like to make the move befor they are older and dont want to go x x x

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      Pillocuccolo 5 years ago

      Hi dear Lissie!

      Very nice your information.. I'm permanently coming to Australia asap.. I don't care of Snakes nor of Spiders.. I only care I was born in Sydney and when I was a little girl I got in Italy where I've never found myself. I love too much Australia, its Holy Soil, and I don't know exactly where I'll be and where I'll go, anyway.. I'll be in my Homeland! I've been there some years ago, don't knowing to speak English very well and making a terrible mess with verbs and words.. I found a lot of friendly and kind people, a wonderful place,a beautiful Nature, fantastic shops... when I went in Italy again I suffered a lot, and today I still have crying moments thinking about that Holy Land!! How much I love Australia!! I can't wait to be there again... and never move again!!

      Love to you and to Australia (and to the Platypuses, I love so much!!!! :-D :-)

      Have a lovely 2012!!

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      Analicia62 5 years ago

      Thanks Lizzie for your reply. I imagine you have been very busy with life, Xmas, etc. If I can work until Im 70 I will..not necessarily for money but to keep busy and be around people. The economny is bad around the world and these days in Canada many elderly people are chosing to work past 65 even. I can't move one place to another for 6mths and I dont think any job will let us have holiday for more than 2-4 wks..so we will be stable in Townsville and once we retire (60) we will travel all over forsure..thanks Lissie for your reply; meansa lot. Have a Happy New Year and cheers :D

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      jasmine 5 years ago

      i think when i graduate i want to move to Australia to go to college and to stay it seems like a good place

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      mairead 5 years ago

      Hi I moved to Adelaide in Sept 2011 with my 2 children and Hubby, we moved as there was no work in Ireland, but starting to realize it was a bad move. we could easly live here for a few years but my children age 12,7 are finding it hard as noone seems to come out to play over here. we life on a really nice road for kids with children on it but once kids come home from school they never return out after school its like a ghost town!! where my children are from the country part of Ireland and enjoyed living outside playing with friends!!! it is hard as parents to find your children bored inside and missing their mates back home?? we are stuck now because I dont want my children stuck inside!! need help

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @charmievm You both have job offers, in a desirable part of the country? Are they offering you moving expenses and help in finding a house? Do you a house to sell in London? It seems a bit of a no-brainer to me. Wage comparisons are almost impossible, given the huge differences in costs and conditions (Australia has compulsory super for example).

      I would think that most people would count the NSW north coast to much lower stress than London!

      And any Australian house will seem large, after London houses, more important is the indoor/outdoor flow and the aircon! Most cars are big too, check the economy though!

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @Martina - sports is big in Australia, but actually Perth has a vibrant dance scene - some of the countries (and the world's) best ballroom dancers come from there and there are some awesome teachers and coaches.

      I'm not super informed on the uni system but be aware that your daughter will be paying overseas student fees (and its not free for locals either , unlike Ireland).

      The flip side is that she will be able to go to pretty much any uni she wants to (so long as you can afford it). Frankly it might be a better option for her to return to Eire - when she wants to go to uni.

      I think the ages of going to uni are about the same (17/18) - the difference will be the syllabus and subjects - it will totally depend on what she's studying and what she want to persue. She won't have to learn Irish anymore though (or be able to!)

      I've been telling my brother (who lives in Cork) - to move before his kids get too old - so that they can move back to take advantage of free uni later on!

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 5 years ago from New Zealand

      @Analicia62 - sorry - I get a lot of questions here - and some I just don't have the answer to, and others I answer and never heard back from the questioner!

      Its a personal choice at the end of the day - if you like heat and sun and sea than Townsville sounds perfect! Its also a big miltary base so maybe you can get some sort of quasi-miltary work on your corrections background.

      TBH many Ausralians retire at 55 - so many employers will be a bit bermused with you wanting to work - but so long as you say the right things I can't see a major issue.

      Sounds like your husband has put up with the cold for a long time - so maybe its your turn to check out a new climate? Frankly I think living in one place is over-rated - maybe you can do 6 months in each country?

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      charmievm 5 years ago

      Hi Lissie,

      We are planning to move to Australia in NSW near Gold coast. It's only me(a nurse) and my husband(a doctor). My husband already has a job offer from one of the hospital there and they are prepared to accomodate me as well. I am just worried because at the moment I'm already earning well (3k a month) and my husband also earned same as im earning. Although i did few research or some info from friends. Mostly said the cost of living is much better than in London but still i've got a lot of but's and if's in my mind. Mainly our reason to migrate to australia is my health i have a hypertension and my job is one of cause of that (pressure of it). Next is to own big house and have a big car (lol).Lissie guide me with this.....is it right? We're both from the Philippines but British citizen. Been in London for 11 years. Also one of the reason to move is the tax system in Uk.

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      peter 5 years ago

      im presently living in Nigeria, is it possible to mar grate to Australia. How can you help me? thanks

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      Analicia62 5 years ago

      LIssie..???? where are you...you havent been on for weeks.....you must be busy shopping for Xmas etc..you have a life too.haha.but sure would like to hear your response but Townsville..I wrote you a long note above weeks ago..plesse reply..thanks. MERRY CHRISTMAS TOO :)

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      Adam 6 years ago

      I onced visited Australia, and I liked it very much, but I wouldn´t want to move there, I love where I live.

      Adam.

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      kawalkapoor 6 years ago

      i like this country...i like weather and atmosphere ...and my ain setteled in ausrelia... my future country..

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      Martina 6 years ago

      Hi Lissie,

      I'm Irish and my husband is an electrician who lost his job recently when the company he worked for went into liquidation. We are considering a move to Western Australia because that's where the jobs seem to be and there aren't any in Ireland at the moment. My concern is moving my two children. I have a 16 year old girl and a 12 year old boy. I think my son would adjust to the move but I'm not so sure about my daughter. She has two more years of secondary school left here and I'm wondering about the school system in Australia. Would it be difficult to fit in with other girls at her age? What age do Australians finish their secondary education and how do they apply to university? Is it important to be good at sport because she's not but she loves dance. Are there dance schools in WA? I know some of these questions probably sound very stupid so please forgive my ignorance! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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      Silus1 6 years ago

      Why do Australian always react to people who speak the truth about their shortfalls with messages like "If you don't like it you know what you can do" or other childish retorts.

      Australia needs to wake-up and smell the coffee on a lot of fronts. You haven't got it all right guys. Your country is young, inexperienced and makes lots of mistakes - again and again. It some areas, like online development, you are positively backwards. Just becasue the 'old' countries are suffering from economic doom and gloom right now, does not give you the right to be so off-hand when wise comments are made on this blog.

      Take it on board, on the chin even, grow-up gracefully and stop the world laughing at you for being so backward, loud and rebellious (teenagers).

      You have a huge opportunity, with the natural resources you have under your ground, to make yourselves world leaders. But world leaders need to be grown-ups. So go to it Australia.

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      Analicia62 6 years ago

      Hey Lissie..where are you? I was hoping you would comment on what you know of Townsville..I sent you a long note 4 wks ago.about me and my hubby moving there 2013. Look back and you can read my note k? How its like for work, housing, at 52? :/ We love the climate..just wondering..if transferring my pension..it will all work out..etc..xo hugs

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      Mark 6 years ago

      I currently live in johannesburg and would love to move to perth i am 49 my wife is thirty and my child six. if i have enough to purchase my home and motor cars cash.

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      Silus1 6 years ago

      My husband has invented a world-beating system that is proven, and would save the Australian mines a fortune. It has saved 10000s for companies so far in Europe.

      Our kids have moved to Perth with their families,so it is an attraction to be able to work there for a bit. Not sure about permanently as yet - love the UK too much. So, we are going to give a 457 visa a bash. The fact that my husband's invention is so relevant to the State of WA, will this give his company the edge in his visa application?

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      Reza 6 years ago

      I, Khurram Jalal would like to introduce my-self as an applicant intended to complete his further studies from Australia for which I have thoroughly read the policy as published on 5th of November, 2011 that many changes have been made as well as I can understand it except following financial requirements;

      1. That you need up-to maintained 3 months Bank Statement with funds for Student Category but can I make a loan agreement with financial institution to bear my expenses during studies at Australia?

      2. That after approval of this facility to me; will I also suppose to maintain the funds for 3 months or can I submit my visa application on very coming next days without maintenance of funds for 3 months?

      I will be grateful if could please provide me your kind assistance in due course which will enable me to proceed further in right direction.

      Your soon reply & kind assistance will definitely be appreciated.

      Profound Regards

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      Ian 6 years ago

      I am Australian, and can't believe how this country is run.

      I am mid thirties, well educated, from an advantaged family when compared to most.

      Surviving financially in Australia, despite two university degrees, and TAFE qualifications, is not easy.

      The place is crowded, infrastructure is inadequate, it is a society of have and have nots. The haves are the ones who work and pay tax.

      The rest are bludgers, drug-affected and looking for unsuspecting immigrants to relieve of their "advantage".

      Don't be fooled. Great place for an over-priced under serviced holiday, horrible place to reside.

      Not to mention property you pay a ridiculous amount for. Then the cost of electricity, water, rates etc. All going up well above inflaction. Too many Labor governments over the years have destroyed any chance Australia has of offering long term and secure employment.

      If you move here, I guarantee, you will regret it after the honeymoon period wears off.

      All that being said, if you can afford to spend a day at the beach, or a week, or a month, then your life will have been worthwhile. Unfortunately, nobody can afford to be off work, even when sick. Living costs are THAT high!

      Anyway, all the best. I'd say meet you in the pub for a quick drink, but who has the time anymore, the bills are just ridiculous.

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      Wayne 6 years ago

      I have lived in Western Australia most of my life - country and Perth, worked in UK, Germany and Thailand. I married a girl from the UK in 1977 - she had only been in the country a very short time and was with her parents and brother (he married UK wife).

      There is a human condition that seems to be universal with immigration - I call it the "Yo-Yo syndrome". There is never any place like home.

      Australia - doesn't really matter where in Oz - is like no other place on earth. The people are unique like the land – the land itself will infect you with its ancient spirit if you stay long enough.

      It simply is the most isolated country in the world with Perth being its most isolated city. Until you live in such isolation you cannot appreciate what it means to those people that have lived with other countries on their immediate borders and cheap inter- country travel that would be a bus ride in Oz

      It just simply takes a lot to travel to and from the place - you just cannot do so on a whim. Travelling within the country takes planning and commitment - treat it lightly at your peril.

      My wife and her parents - mainly the women (men seem to adjust easier with less emotional disruption) miss the closeness of their extended families. My wife and mother & sister-in-law would go through periods of loss (almost mourning) that slowly weakened but over a period of 30 years. Sister –in-Law could not cope with loss and eventually took the children back to her family in UK.

      Brother-in-Law became so enthralled with the Oz way of life he could not imagine living anywhere else – he stayed. The children have been trying to get back since they became adults.

      As the women returned to the UK on visits every 5 years or so they lost their attachment to the country as it changed and no longer resembled their places of memory but the attachment to family only abated over many, many years.

      The yo-yo comes about when families uproot and move back to their homeland. They usually manage about 5 years in Oz and then another 5 years back home but are haunted by the Australian infection they have contracted. They miss the things only Australia has - I will not list them but those that have spent time here will know what they are and this becomes obsessive.

      Many families, rather than be miserable, return to Oz and are happy - for about 5 years. Family and friends start dying off or new members are arriving and the ache to be a part of that starts again and the urge to go home again starts anew. I have known families to do the yo-yo 5 times before settling in one or the other places - usually flat broke and much older with less prospects available to them.

      My advice is - if you are in need of the emotional support of your immediate and extended families - and YOU know who you are then do not emigrate to Australia - you just cannot pop back home when an aging parent is ailing or a family crisis has arisen.

      Australian people are not very accepting of whiners/whingers - a popular Australian thug has a saying accredited to him of "Harden the F**k Up" and for those new Australians that are treading on their lips with regret and homesick blues this comment is likely to be given once tolerance of the "homesickness" is up.

      Those immigrants that are finding it hard to make friends may unintentionally be venting their misgivings so often that people are avoiding them.

      Issues of jobs, education and making friends is a doddle - not an issue at all - seek and ye shall receive - be flexible in your outlook and expectations - the real issue is if you are able to take the separation from your old life and family.

      For most of you - the test will be in the doing - good luck - just make sure you leave yourself a way back if you need it.

      Great site btw - lots of really worthwhile insight.

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      Craig 6 years ago

      Good article, and very useful as I am looking to move to Perth in early 2012.

      I have to say though, the remark accusing Australians of being "sexist, racist" etc is a bit off, especially coming from a New Zealander. I think she has it confused with Australians' sheer resistance to the two-faced, liberal, politically-correct claptrap that NZ has embraced, especially where it concerns Maori.

      Every statistic in NZ is separated into "Maori" or "non-Maori", Maori have their own health systems, education systems, political party (you really think anyone else could get away with that??!!) even their own TV channel!

      The great irony here is that if you ask any Maori in Australia why s/he moved, it'll be for the reasons above - the very things that the so-called Maori "leadership" claims to benefit them! They're as fed up of the pseudo-apartheid garbage here as everyone else.

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      Not quite Aussie yet 6 years ago

      I wish I found this before moving Oz for work 7 years ago. I'm doing well in my job, but I found the adjustment difficult despite having lived in Europe and the Middle East for about 8 years.

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      On top of the world 6 years ago

      Hi Everyone

      Interesting comments. I am married to Queenslander and 3 months ago we moved from Vancouver to Brisbane for a change with the view of staying for one-two years.

      Australia is an interesting country and the fact is that ( in Brisbane anyway) it has weather in spades. If you like beaches it truly would be a dream place.

      The truth is that Australia is a nanny state with rules for everything you can think of. I think the previous comments suggesting a lack of openness to new ideas while general in nature does ring true.

      Dollar for Dollar living costs in Vancouver and Brisbane are the same. Brisbane has the great weather, Vancouver does not.

      If you take weather out of the equation (which is hard as it affects lifestyle) there is no comparison between Canada and Australia on a number of levels:

      1- Australia is far from anywhere. Canada is close to many major centres

      2- Food and clothing is more expensive and much less variety in Australia

      3- Shopping for the most part is restricted to day time hours with the exception of one night a week, Canada has long hour shopping seven days a week

      4- Interest rates are much higher in Australia

      This is beginning to look like an unbalanced post, but since we are only in Australia we are doing our best to enjoy it. Would I say it is the land of opportunity? Yes, under the right circumstances, but as this helpful blog has lain out, don’t think your problems will end with a move to Australia, wether personal, financial or work wise. When you move countries you simply exchange one set of problems for another.

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      meg 6 years ago

      im English born and at age of 8 moved to new Zealand. five years later my family and i moved to Australia. Brisbane. i love the country the people. but really recommend explaining to your children what migration really means. the younger a child the better i believe. although i love Australia i will always be that little bit angry at my parents for taking me away from the place i grew up and causing some very hard times. a lot of people that migrate think it is easy and within the year are back home. don't make that mistake. migrating is the hardest challenge i have faced and if you aren't 100% don't just give it ago as its not that easy.

      other than that great info

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      andy 6 years ago

      i am 11 and doing a project on imagrating and this sit has been the most helful i have found after 2 hours it has brillant info

      thanks for spending th time on it

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      Analicia62 6 years ago from Kelowna, BC

      Hi Lissie, How are you? I sent you a long note approx 3 wks ago with inquires. Could you reply back please, thanks so much. :))

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      kim 6 years ago

      @kate, judging by your statement it seems shes right!! All aussies like you??

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      Kate 6 years ago

      I would just like to say thank you for coming to my country and not enrolling to vote and exercising pretty much your only civic duty, but repeaing the benefits. Also, thanks for telling everyone Australia is racist, sexist and homophobic. Yes, probably in outback Australia. But you know what would help, if you don't like Australia, go back to NZ. Oh sorrY! It's in economic crisis...

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      Baba 6 years ago

      Hi Lissie, Thanks for this site. I am planning to going to Austalia with my family. Have ready various comments fron people on this site and have make up my mind to migrate and not to take up paid emplyment but to buy an existing business and run. Do you think running a medium business is a good decision?

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      kim 6 years ago

      Hi Lissie, we are planning to move to aussie in the very near future. Myself and the kids are kiwis, hubby has just recieved his 461 visa today!!! Your hub is very interesting and has lots of info on it. Do you know if my husband needs to be working for any length of time for us to be able to rent a property? ie do agencies want to see that you have a job and will be able to pay your rent!! Obviously thats ideal, but i was wondering if he would need to be working for a month or more before actually getting a rental.

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 6 years ago from New Zealand

      @B - well going back won't return your life to you as it was will it? Your partner and kids probably won't be very happy either? Of course your kids will end up identifying as Australians and not know other relatives so well - that's the deal when you move countries. I don't get why you think it has anything to do with your identity

      I my experience it takes a couple of years to really make new friends in a new town/country - just keep going.

      @dance - you'd need some sort of student visa- and I dont know that you can get those for high school level - and you (or your parents) will be paying full fees. As the school year in Oz starts in Jan - I don't think you will doing it next year - as its Nov now!

      @Tash - arrive - stay in a motel for a week - find a local rental - its much easier when you are on the ground and Nov is a quiet time for landlords - you'll be fine

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 6 years ago from New Zealand

      @B - well going back won't return your life to you as it was will it? Your partner and kids probably won't be very happy either? Of course your kids will end up identifying as Australians and not know other relatives so well - that's the deal when you move countries. I don't get why you think it has anything to do with your identity

      I my experience it takes a couple of years to really make new friends in a new town/country - just keep going.

      @dance - you'd need some sort of student visa- and I dont know that you can get those for high school level - and you (or your parents) will be paying full fees. As the school year in Oz starts in Jan - I don't think you will doing it next year - as its Nov now!

      @Tash - arrive - stay in a motel for a week - find a local rental - its much easier when you are on the ground and Nov is a quiet time for landlords - you'll be fine

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      Elisabeth Sowerbutts 6 years ago from New Zealand

      @Austin I deleted your comment because I can't edit here and you included your email address - which is a big no no on the Internet. I can't help you get a job in Australia - you need to get on the job sites I've linked here and talk to employers and agents

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      Tash 6 years ago

      Hi Lissie

      I am immgrating to Australia,Altona on the 16th Nov 2011 with my famiily. I have two boy's ages 6 and 7. I am really finding it difficult to find accommdation there.I am looking for self catering or B and B for about a month.Is there any way you can help me.

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      dance1096 6 years ago

      i am looking into going to australia for a year of highschool. i would live with a family member but after the school year i would come back to the states and finish up high school here.i know the syteme is very in australia but is ther a way to make it work? i dont really know how it would work because they start school in the middile of my school year. also would going there and coming back be too much? i would like any thoghts or advice on this because i would really love to do it and i would want to do it next school year.

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      6 years ago

      Hi Lissie

      My husband & I moved to Aus - Perth, 7 months ago. I know it's still early to decide, but if I knew all the things I would be going through now, I would have really done appreciated a site like this, where I could have read about all the things you need to consider before moving to another country. Aus is wonderful. But it's not home. I feel like I'm losing my identity, & I never wanted thought of how I'd be changing my future, my kids never growing up in the country I was born in, not getting to really know my parents etc. It's such an emotional thing, & I'm such an emotional person. But I miss my family. The people I work with are different. And it's really hard for me to fit in. I'm trying so hard, but after every week, I feel depressed. Some days are better than others. But there's been times that I've thought to myself, "What have we done?" What have we dont to ourselves? So many times in the past few months I've felt like I'm really heading for a nervous breakdown. I just can't seem to get around the fact of being in Aus, when I'm not ready to let go of who I am. My husband loves Aus, & that life is so much easier over here. We don't have kids yet. But still, I feel like going home & erasing Aus& this good life from my memory & just having my life back the way it was. We come from South Africa, so ovbiously we came here for a reason. But anyway, I guess time will tell. I feel a bit lost, but I guess I haven't been here long enough to stabilize my emotions. But yes, you've got a brilliant site, I just wish I've read it a year ago. When I was in 2 minds about coming here.

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      rohit 6 years ago

      Found the link on one of the immigration discussion sites. the article is very informative, balanced and allows a person to self-introspect..thnxs for writing this lissie

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      Chris 6 years ago

      This is a really useful article for any would be migrant to Oz. I have just completed the Migration process and am aiming to be out in Oz by Jan 2012.