Relative Positioning Leaves Blank or White Space on Webpage
82If You Want Your DIV Content To Layer Correctly, Relative to Its Coded Position, You Need A Different Approach
So, you create a DIV tag to wrap some content, and you use CSS, applied to the DIV tag, to make the content's position Relative, in the mistaken belief that:
- your content will simply move over to where you want it to be;
- other elements on the web page will fill the space where it would have been if you had not moved it over;
Instead:
- the content moves over;
- AND a big blank space is ALSO left where the content would have been if you had not moved it!
Perhaps you have already tried using Absolute positioning, but found that:
- this only places the content relative to the full browser window, and not relative to your content, creating havoc with the placement of your content when it is displayed in differently sized browser windows.
These are common problems.
The Relative positioning problem is inherent to the standard for displaying content using relative positioning. Believe it or not, despite many people having a very different "intuitive" grasp of how it should work, display of content using relative positioning is SUPPOSED to leave that frustrating block of space behind.
The Absolute positioning problem is a matter of scope ... you need a way to specify that you want your content placed relative to other content, not to the browser window.
Fortunately, there are solutions to these problems!
How to Get Content to Layer Properly Over Top of Other Content Using DIVs, CSS and HTML
I am creating this page because I had the exact same problems.
- If I used Absolute positioning, my content (a logo) would float relative to the top left corner of the browser ... but my main content was centered in the browser, and depending on the size of the browser window, the logo would be too far to the left or right.
- If I used Relative positioning, the logo would float relative to its original position, but it would ALSO leave behind a logo-sized blank space right where it would have been if I had not moved it.
So, how did I get the logo to behave? After a little (ok, a lot) of research into the matter, I finally discovered this solution:
- Give the DIV containing the content you wish to layer (in my case the logo) the property of position: absolute; and give it the desired offsets, such as top: 150px; left: 200px;
- Wrap the above DIV in an additional DIV, and give the outer DIV the property of position: relative;
- Do NOT (unless you need to for some other reason) offset the position of the outer DIV. The idea is that you need to nest an Absolute positioned DIV in this Relative positioned DIV;
- Now the content you wish to layer will have an Absolute position relative to the outer DIV, not relative to your browser window.
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This Is the HTML in Your Web Page
<div id="logo-wrapper"> <div id="logo"> <img src="logo.gif"> </div> </div>
This Is the CSS for Your DIV Tags
#logo-wrapper {
position: relative;
}
#logo {
position: absolute;
top: 175px;
left: 84px;
}CSS Notes
- Using the # sign in front of a CSS identifier applies the settings to all elements with that name. Thus the settings for the class #logo-wrapper apply to all DIV (and other) elements with the parameter id="logo-wrapper".
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Comments - Let Me Know if You Need More Help With This!
Excellent help
Awesome, just what I was looking for!
Much appreciated!
Jason, you are the man!
This is a "show printable view" type application. I have to position dynamic text over two form images where the 2nd form image can be multiple "continuation" pages (the form is just too complicated to replicate using tables in the time I have available). I'm using @media because this has to be viewable and printable with accuracy. Relative positioning was killing me on having an unknown number of continuation pages. Now, I can use absolute positioning again and each physical page is "relative" for screen and "page-break-before:always" for print. This approach will save me so much time by letting me use identical CSS positioning for the continuation pages with the exception of a constant offset for the screen vertical positioning.
Thanks again for sharing your solution and to Google for helping me find it!
Pete: It is for hard working people like you that I made this page. I had my own, similar, trouble ... found a solution (very hard for me to find) and wanted to share the joy and leave a solid record for my future self to refer to.









itsjareds says:
2 months ago
Thanks! I will try this when I have time.
-Jared