Ban Obese From Restaurants?

You Just Can't Fix Stupid!

Some of you may have already heard that that Representatives Mayhill, Read and Shows of Mississippi have prepared a bill to put before Committee that, if passed, would mean that restaurant owners caught serving the obese could be closed down by the Mississippi State Dept. of Health.

Granted, this has been explained by Mayhill as what is referred to as a "joke bill" that he does not even believe will pass but was simply presented to draw attention to the fact that Mississippi is in the #1 spot for obesity in the U.S. This comes only on the heels of the Oprah Winfrey show in which she travels to her home state simply to drive this point across the airwaves, even though she didn't have time to spend (herself) on the coast of her home state following the Katrina disaster. She, instead sent representatives on her behalf while she spent her time with the New Orleans victims. But then that is a whole other Hub in itself in my mind!

While I feel sure that this bill will be laughed out and never become law, I have a few questions for these people. With all of the negativity, rude comments, stares, laughs and other hurtful events that torment the obese every day, why would anyone who is supposed to be considered a leader even think about adding even more humiliation and insult to the lives of these people whom they are supposed to be so concerned about?

Then, there is the fact that some restaurant owners themselves are obese. Many people who are employed in restaurants are also obese. So, who is supposed to run the businesses? And what about the obese Representatives themselves? Yes, they are either obese or formerly obese themselves! I suppose all of their luncheons and elbow rubbing dinner dates with the high and mighty would have to come to a halt!

This has to be the stupidest idea that any leader in our state has ever put before our people! Sad thing is that you just can't fix stupid! And to think that I have been so proud to live in Mississippi all of my life and will defend it to the end! Something this idiotic coming from someone who is supposed to be a leader of my state almost makes me ashamed to live here! But then, I can't let the actions of a few cloud the pride I have had in my state through many disasters in past years. The way that we came together after Katrina has been one of my proudest moments in our state. Rather than shaking a fist and blaming others for the disaster, we buckled under to rebuild a better, stronger Mississippi. And instead of loitering and stepping over our wounded and bleeding, we reached out to help them up! I will always have this image in my head to outweigh situations like these where a few of our so-called leaders decide to use the emotional welfare of their own people to bring attention to their cause. It is the only thing I can do to keep the pride going in my heart when faced with stupidity of this nature.

So what if it was your state? What would you think if your state attempted to pass a law saying that obese people weren't allowed to eat in public places? Even if you aren't obese yourself, how would this effect those in your circle? Friends, loved ones, business partners? I would love to get your comments on this idiotic bill!

Bonnie Ramsey

Still a proud Mississippian

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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

I just wanted to add that if you would like to read the full bill you can do an internet search for Mississippi House Bill No. 282. I tried to edit and add this info but for some reason it won't let me lol. I apologize for this omittance.

Bonnie Ramsey


Iðunn 8 years ago

I can't believe they would legislate on this, even as a joke.  But I did try to tell people once they finished with the smokers they were going to head for the obese.

This is an economic issue, bottom line.  The poorer classes tend to higher obesity than the middle class and well off.  Cheaper food is less healthy, often, so the poor are often kind of stuck like that. That means they often don't have insurance or good enough insurance.  Part of Medicaid is picked up by the State, not just the Federal government - it's split.  In LA, I think, they have passed a zoning law in which new fast food restaurants cannot be built in a particular poor neighborhood.

When I first started reading the media put a big push on the obesity epidemic, I could have told you this was coming.  They had just got through doing that to smokers. 

Have you ever seen the movie "Demolition Man" about pc control of vices?  We might be living that soon under a nanny state.  Remember the old "first they came for... but I wasn't, then they came for... but I wasn't"?  Well, now they are done with smokers and on obesity.  They may hit homosexuality or something else next.  and each time there will be less and less people to stand up for the next group.

I think the bill is ridiculous and I think if some people want to eat and some people want to smoke, then stay out of it and provide national healthcare because sooner or later all of us have vices down the line whether it's cigarettes, alcohol, food, sex, drugs or whatever and if we choose one of those classes to attack to save some health care money, then you have to know they are going to go for the rest of them too.   We may end up like Nazi Germany and start just killing off disabled babies down the line.

I think this legislation has more to do with health care for profit than anything else.


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SirEdserv 8 years ago from Waikoloa, HI

Nice hub Bonnie! Even though they may claim it's a "joke bill," these types of bills are indicators of the direction this country is going. How many years ago was a public ban on smoking considered a "joke bill" that would never pass? Now the smokers have been singled-out and made to look almost as criminals.

Anyway, your point about mis-use of power is a great point. I wish the leaders in government would not try to turn this country into their own personal playgrounds. Obesity is not solved by humiliation.

Thanks for the great Hub!


Iðunn 8 years ago

You also said this was Mississippi which cinches it for me.  The highest U.S. poverty exists in Mississippi, Georgia and Texas and not surprisingly, those are also the worst ranked states for helping their poor.  These states add as little as possible, to federal funds. There is choice in that.


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gamergirl 8 years ago from Antioch, TN

That's right, you can't fix stupid.

Stupid is eating too much when your body is full of food but there's only two slices of pizza left.

Stupid is living a lethargic life moving from chair to chair to bed day in and out with no exercise.

Stupid is allowing yourself to make poor eating choices to such a degree that you become obese, a nationwide epidemic which KILLS.

Legislation like this is a threat to the overeater, the lazy, the food glutton.


Iðunn 8 years ago

I completely disagree.  Compulsive overeating is more of a psych thing than a character issue in most cases, and instead of legislation, how about some paid therapy to help those people find a healthier way to deal with their addiction caused by emotional problems and to be happier people?


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

Thanks you guys and I certainly agree. As a smoker, sometimes I feel like I am a criminal when I am out in public. While I try to respect others if they do not smoke, I certainly can't understand why we are treated as less human. And I know for a fact that restaurants could have properly vented smoking areas if they wanted to.

Mississippi is definitely the lowest paid state, for sure! Problem is, cost of living never slows down to wait for wages to catch up! It is just hard to believe that anyone who is supposed to be a leader of any state could care so little about the feelings of others that would be effected by this stupidity!


Iðunn 8 years ago

Well when prices increase, our government calls that "growth" but when wages try hard to catch up, the government labels it "inflation". It's a sick mindset and has to do with the power elite and greed.

I agree 100% with you that legislation on blocking the obese from restaurants, even as a joke, is utterly cruel. I also agree that it's nasty to label smokers as second-class citizens.


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gamergirl 8 years ago from Antioch, TN

This is not about compulsive overeating. This is about obesity, a condition cultivated KNOWINGLY over years and years. One cannot just go to bed one night skinny and wake up obese. It is the product of poor choices on a daily basis, many of these choices made actively by the big folks.

Why be hypocritical regarding laws passed down to SAVE LIVES?

We have laws regarding emissions from MAN MADE equipment which we choose to use each and every day. It is no different in the case of legislation regarding cola-guzzling overeaters being restricted in certain arenas.


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

Gamer, there is other causes for obesity besides just stupidity and overeating. My Mom was overweight for many years and tried many diest, worked hard and got plenty of exercise but could not lose weight. In fact she kept gaining. Doctors tried everything and could not figure out what caused it. She has never ate very much and yet somehow, the weight just piled on!

So, does that mean that she should be treated like a criminal and denied service in public? I think not! It is opinions such as these and these types of remarks that cause obese people to have self-esteem problems. Society's idea of the "perfect" body today is one reason we have teens starving themselves to death to meet what the public deems to be their perfect weight!

Even if it is obesity by choice of overeating, it is still a choice, just like multiple body piercings that can cause deadly infections, smoking, which I need not even mention the effects, swimming in frozen waters in a bikini. Who is to tell anyone how they must eat or live their life?

If we ban obese from restaurants then it is simply sending a message to them they we are ashamed of them and don't want to be seen in public with them. How will that help them to eat healthier? All that will do is spiral them into a state of depression which will only strengthen their addiction to "comfort" foods. THAT is stupidity!


Iðunn 8 years ago

lives can be saved and awareness achieved without legislation or unnecessary humiliation.  moreso, humiliation is the exact opposite of what would cure compulsive overeating.  they need self-esteem, not more beating on their low self-esteem.

I think honesty with compassion would help, we shouldn't enable by just saying it's great, but I think legislating against and/or humiliation is completely wrong.


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Just Toyia 8 years ago from Tennessee

The first thing I thought when I heard this on the news, only a tease line, I thought OMG it's getting bad! I thought I lived in America, land of the free. Then I thought this must be a joke, a very bad and hurtful joke. Then I thought there's no way this will pass, the restaurants would never allow it, the business they would lose.


Iðunn 8 years ago

yeah, they said that about smokers too. :|


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Just Toyia 8 years ago from Tennessee

Yea, with that one, they lost a lot of my business in restaurants,it didn't make me smoke any less either-


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

Toya,

Yes, it is really sad that today's society seems to want to judge people by the way that they look. I believe we have a lot to learn about how to accept people. Nobody is perfect and just because I may not like how you look, that doesn't mean I have to be cruel and judgmental to you. You are right. This is a cruel joke put forth by "want-to-be" leaders.


Iðunn 8 years ago

that goes both ways, by the way.  when heavier people attack all those under 200 pounds as 'anorexic' and having 'no character' simply for not being obese, it's not any nicer.  that's one of my pet peeves too.   it's not any nicer than someone attacking heavier people for their appearance.  flip side of the same coin.


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Patty Inglish, MS 8 years ago from North America

All kinds of legislation is in discussion in the US government. in the early 1990s, there was work being done to prevent people in the US that are 75 years or older form being seen by a doctor. The retirement age is begin discussed and legislation pending to make it 75 years old. I don't think much of thise can get out of committee. And I agree with Iouun about plitics being involved in berating the heavier or the slimmer depending on the shape of one's own body and food desires/revulsions or whatever is normal eating for one.

I don't think heavier people will ever be banned form restaurants though, but I could be wrong. Life is often not fair or lucid.


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Just Toyia 8 years ago from Tennessee

I just love some peoples answers to things...ban it...like that has really proved to be a good thing in the past? If you're like me telling me "no" is like a "dare"....anyway, if it passes I guess there will be a black market for fast food...Mickie D's being sold on the corner for jacked up prices...right beside the dope pushers...


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Patty Inglish, MS 8 years ago from North America

Since the US Market is saturated with McD's restaurants with no additional profit to be made by building more, then the black market is the way to go, heehee. That would make a good film.

I agree - if it's bad I want to find out for myself, because too many people lie and say something's bad when it is not, for their own agenda.


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

Thanks everyone for participating in this Hub. While I certainly agree that obesity is a problem, I think this is just the wrong way to go about addressing this issue. You can't "criticize" anyone into doing anything and expect it to be successful! Just because we don't approve of something or we don't think it is healthy, doesn't give us the right to ban it from publicity.

I would also like to add something here. I broguth up the subject earlier about my Mom being overweight for many years and never knowing why. I should say that for some reason, just as unexplained, she started to lose weight a few years ago. In fact she lost it so fast that the doctor was afraid something was seriously wrong. The ran all sorts of tests and found nothing. She melted away 150 lbs. in 1 year and has no idea how or why. She is holding steady at 150 lbs. and has been for the past couple of years. When this happened, she was no longer on a diet as the doctors couldn't find one that worked for her. It still remains a mystery but we are all just happy that she was able to lose it and her health become better because of it. But I also know that if I wanted to take her out to eat and a restaurant refused to let her in, they could kiss my business goodbye forever! She will never be disrespected in this way with me without me standing up for her! I wil always be proud to be with her even if she weighed 500 lbs!


Iðunn 8 years ago

I'm glad your mom was able to achieve good health and has better chances for a long happy life to share with you. :)


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

Thanks so much! I treasure her dearly and I hope to have her around for many years to come!


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gamergirl 8 years ago from Antioch, TN

I would say I am amazed at the reaction to this legislation as presented by comments here, but frankly I'm not.

It reminds me of gun safety laws.. regulations about chemicals.. the list goes on.

People still make the choice to play with guns as if they are mere toys. People still do drugs. The choice is not taken from them by a simple act of government.

I'm sorry that you believe that a measure to raise awareness of exactly what health risks people take and to prevent at-risk individuals from spiralling further into illness (yes, obesity is an illness) is humiliation. I happen to think it's a rude awakening that some people need.

My mother is morbidly obese. She suffers every day because of her weight. I battle with weight myself. The difference is recognizing that not everything is about humiliating your fellow man. Not everything is a political coup against the common person. We, Americans, are free to make choices just as any other person on this earth is, and the FACT is, by being so fat on average we've made stupid ass choices.


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

I am not saying that awareness is not a good thing. It is the way that they are attempting to "force" it that is the problem. There needs to be awareness about a lot of things but the fact is that nobody should be "banned" from a public place simply because of their appearance.

there are many stupid choices made by the masses every day but this is just plain discrimination the way this is being done and does nothing but add more negativity to these peoples lives unnecessarily.


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gamergirl 8 years ago from Antioch, TN

So instead we should continue to allow people to buy super size biggie meals with double cheesy fries and a diet coke without any action on the part of the largest organization which has been trying for decades to set standards by which we as a people can remain healthy and fit?

To me, the greater injustice is to continue to allow people to harm themselves so gleefully.


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Patty Inglish, MS 8 years ago from North America

Or perhaps obesity is the next scourge to reduce the population and some food outlets are profiting from it -- Just a conspiracy theory thought. During the 1930s and WWII, relief orders and food rations put sugar into limited supply per person, so perhaps people were healthier with less obesity then?


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

A healthy and fit lifestyle is nobody's choice but our own!


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Patty Inglish, MS 8 years ago from North America

Choice is important.


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

I agree, Patty!

If this is allowed to happen, where will it end? If I don't even have a choice of what I want to eat, there is no end to what government can tell us we must do. If it becomes illegal for obese to eat at a restaurant, who is to say that the next step won't be for the banning of certain foods in our homes? It is just rediculous to think that anyone should have the right to force any particular diet on people.

Besides, if they can't eat out in public, what makes them think that they won't just eat it at home? It is just a way to keep the obese hidden inside so that the people who don't approve of it don't have to look at them.


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gamergirl 8 years ago from Antioch, TN

If I can't shoot my gun in public, what makes them think they can stop me from shooting my gun at home?

Just as dangerous.

Please keep in mind that I am all in favor of choice. However, we restrain criminals who choose to do harm to others and themselves, so whose rights are worth more? The business owners whose livelihood and continued generations prosperity depend on the successful running of a business (each location of which is sanctioned by local and state government) or the overeater who makes daily conscious choices to self-harm through food?

What makes you believe that these pieces of legislation will come into orderly enforcement any time in the next year, or even in the next five? It's a drastic measure, to be sure, but when millions of people in the country are making dangerous choices which affect not only themselves but the people around them to such a degree that claims are made of obesity being 'genetic'... my great good Goddess people, what must we do to reign in those who OBVIOUSLY cannot make proper eating choices?

Restaurant eating is only one avenue through which we can enjoy food. This doesn't stop you from buying groceries, this doesn't stop you from making choices, in fact it is and should be a rude awakening for those who allow themselves to become deathly ill.

The fact of the matter is, at the base of it all, legislation such as this is a real eye-opener to the complacency of some people. If you are totally happy being a four to five hundred pound mass of flesh (albeit most folks of great size that I know are totally awesome sweet people beyond the depression cycle of eating) then GREAT. But don't think for a second that the government, the body of lawmakers who may falter in most arenas of caretaking for this country, are going to pass up the opportunity to extend the work they do in the fields of health care.

I apologize for rambling, this is a topic which hits very close to home as I have watched my mother battle obesity, watched my aunt use food as comfort and transfer this concept to my young cousin. I truly believe that whatever can be done to make as many people who harm themselves in this serious manner realize and focus on this problem, the better.


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Kenny Wordsmith 8 years ago from Chennai

Charlotte, I don't mind insulting people who carry guns, but I don't like to insult my overweight friends. With bills and laws.

Why don't they ban stupid food products instead? 

If they want to stop me from smoking, 

why don't they just see that cigarettes are banned totally.

They allow cigarettes, but ban smoking? That's stupid. 


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Just Toyia 8 years ago from Tennessee

Let's ban liquor stores too while were at it, I have an alcoholic brother and by gosh if there weren't any liquor stores selling to him....oh yea, he find something else to do like smoke dope....or make his own booze...or yea they'll put him on some drugs and he'll pay twice as much for one beer just to get some....banning is not the answer!


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

I would hardly compare obesity to criminals!!! My gosh! Whether someone is obese or not does not affect the health of someone else! And no, it is not genetic! You said that obesity is an illness so if that is ture, do you think we should ban someone who has another type of illness from public places that may be a danger to them? Banning is just crazy!

Kenny and Toya, I certainly agree. There are many things on the market that can be of danger if we make the wrong choices. But we can't ban everything because people make wrong choices, either!


Iðunn 8 years ago

I think the government needs to stay out of our bedrooms and our private lives and stop trying to legislate morality and worry about creating jobs that pay enough to live on.

vote dem. <--- sorry, but I couldn't help the pol thing. :o


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Patty Inglish, MS 8 years ago from North America

vote Martian.LOL


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Patty Inglish, MS 8 years ago from North America

LOL. comment snipped itself. Anyway, I would be in favor of legislation to refuse service to the parents that force feed their 4-year-olds 3 large pizzas in one sitting becaue they think it is funny or a sign of strength for the child to eat that much.


Iðunn 8 years ago

voting martian might be a step up. :p

I think it's more about technology. in the old days, touch football in the streets, walking to the park, yada. now it's all video games and computer and so forth - not enough activity for kids.

I think getting them into sports is a good way to combat obesity in childhood, often. also cooking in instead of fast food, healthy meals, a meat, a veg and a starch. that's what I did for mine and none of my kids had weight problems. one played soccer, another baseball, and another football.


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gamergirl 8 years ago from Antioch, TN

I'm confused. How exactly can we consider one behavior pattern which is dangerous to entire families, to MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, to be less than any other? Danger is danger. Life threatening obesity is an epidemic spawned from consistant and habitual self-harm.

The ONLY solution to obesity, the greatest gateway killer in America, is to take action. A person who willingly and cheerfully stuffs themselves to bulging, teaching these habits to spouses, children, nieces, nephews and the family dog through constant action is not only a danger to themselves but to the ones they love most.

It's not about the government barging into our bedrooms. This bill, which is slated for a complete veto as of the last I heard, affects PUBLIC establishments. Sadly, this is the first hot potato I've read about that has me interested in the political positions of certain individuals campaigning currently. Interestingly, the bill was a bipartisan effort.

As I said, I am all for making your own choices, so long as they do not harm you or others. When you get down to brass tacks of the matter, I'd rather be banned from somewhere that serves food which may cause me to grow sickly through obesity.



Iðunn 8 years ago

actually you have a point that the cost of obesity is of general social concern. and I agree with you that people with obesity issues would be happier, healthier and better off solving them and I would hope they all get there.

but I don't think legislating it is the way to go about it, nor do I think stigmatizing them is helpful. possibly nationalized health care which provides therapy would be a good answer.


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robie2 8 years ago from Central New Jersey

This seems to be quite the smokin thread--Can I play too?

Seems to me banning fat people from restaurants is like banning alcoholics from bars......a lose/lose for the bar/restaurant owner in terms of business,and totally counter productive in terms of combatting the problem. In order to change any behavior, you have to want to--you can't legislate that. It may be a "joke" bill but it's kind of a sick joke. BTW who gets to decide who is and is not obese-- the obesity police?


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gamergirl 8 years ago from Antioch, TN

Health care professionals, robie.

The proposed bill, which as stated above is already in the 'pending veto' pile, is not a joke. It's a shock treatment.

What do you think nationalized health care would be? Medical services intertwined with legislation.


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MoralsEthics1960 8 years ago from Florida

This is freakin America!! When did someone lose the right to be fat if that is what they chose or chose not to be.Yes I said Fat! I am fat ,I know I am .I have tried everything over the past 20 years going from 145 to 229  and possibly more.No one has the right to prevent me to go where I want to go and eat.This is America what have we become that we elect some idiot in office and give them the power to even go there with a law like this.It blows my mind that anyone even if they are overweight to agree or condone it being a good thing to police  overweight people.

I know how it feels to be judged by your weight.I guess if your ugly we should prevent you from going in public,or if you have tatoos ,or piercings that offend people we need to prevent you from polluting our country with your choice to have  these.There are many things that can hurt your body so why not stop it all.Sex may be the next thing they prevent. It can be harmful too.When does it all stop .Instead of picking on crap like this give us decent health care and stop giving the rich people all the advantages while the poor and middle class miss out on what the Rich have no problem getting.The drug companies need to make the rich pay more and the poor and middle class less.Healthcare is a crock. Healthcare should be equal to all not just to satisfy the few.


wajay_47 8 years ago

Bonnie, great hub! As a native of your neighboring state, I fully understand having pride in my present state, Texas and in my native Alabama. So when our leaders do something as absolutely foolish as this and expect it to be passed off as a "joke bill" it is time to remind them that they're weren't hired by the people to be comedians - and if so, would have been fired at the first introduction of this failed attempt at humor! Most of us probably know someone who has suffered from obesity, but to take away more freedom from the populace to "protect us from ourselves" is getting a bit old. If I have it figured right, this is only the forerunner of things to follow. This is just to test the reaction of the public to see how far the scum in power can push us. Then, when that is estimated, the full scale media blitz will hit to convince you that you are just not well informed if you don't believe we need another government program to handle this most serious problem - and to take your tax dollars! This is  not a reflection on Mississippi, it is a reflection on the quality (or lack of) our elected representatives in every state in the US and on the national scene, too. I've visited Mississippi many times, love the petrified forest in Flora, up near Jackson. I have this notion that if Heaven really exists, it lies somewhere between the Mississippi and the Perdido. Great hub.


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MoralsEthics1960 8 years ago from Florida

Oh by the way Bonnie really awesome hub.


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Betty Jo Petty 8 years ago from Arkansas, U.S.A.

Golly, I couldn't read all these posts (although I tried). Obesity is not a laughing matter. It does cause illness, of different sorts. And, as gamergirl states, colas are most likely a Big (haha, little joke there) part of a lot of people being obese.

I had a young intern tell me years ago cola (one of the name-brands I used to drink) was okay to drink, because it was at least liquid. Boy, was he wrong!

I was sitting at l65 pounds for about the past year. I couldn't drop a pound. (I'm just under 5'2".). I thought it was due to medicines I have to take, and partly was. But after being unable to lose for a year, and leaving meds off long enough to see if that would help, guess what!

One of my doctors finally told me it was the sugar. (I'm Diabetic). I didn't realize I was taking in more sugar products than my body could handle. So, if you are over-weight, do your best to find the reason.

All these problems are not reason for us to argue. We are all writers, and should be able to cooperate, and discuss reasonably whatever, whatever.

I remember when people were not allowed in places because maybe they were not of a certain race. Yeah, that's been awhile back. They also were not allowed to send their children to certain schools.

Women weren't allowed to vote, although that one was before I was born. It's a shame the laws and rules some people are allowed to make.

As for the statement about the babies: babies are already being 'corrected' before being born. My daughter could have been aborted. I would have never had a daughter if so, or my wonderful little grandsons.

How about if we use our capabilities to encourage laws and rules the way we think they should go, even if we don't agree?

I'm Betty Jo


Iðunn 8 years ago

good post ME1960. you are right on target, in my opinion.


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Zsuzsy Bee 8 years ago from Ontario/Canada

I have a great idea! What did they do with the unfortunate people who had Leprosy? They banned them to live on a remote island. Without any proper housing and aid. Charlotte maybe that would be the right solution with obese people too...How will you feel when your family are on the first boat there? What a horrid picture of the future you're painting...everyone entering a restaurant will have to step on a scale...sorry sir you can not enter you're too fat...Yes the ways of the Gestapo are well documented...only size two allowed to join...


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gamergirl 8 years ago from Antioch, TN

...........

I had a long winded response typed up, but the more I typed the more irritated with this entire circular debate I became.

I'm going to stop commenting here, however I would like to leave with one final thought.

If your most beloved friends were all cutters (i.e. people who slit their wrists and various other body parts to convert emotional trauma to real pain) wouldn't you want to stop them from cutting? If your wife, son, daughter, mother, best friend in the world cut themselves a little every day for forty years, what measures would you take? Would you be in favor of taking measures to cease the cutting spreading worldwide to billions of people, even if it meant taking away their choice to buy razorblades from Walmart?

I would. I love everyone, regardless of how much I may become frustrated with humanity as a whole (even myself most days.) Every biggie sized fried greasebomb, every double helping of cake, every soda and every bag of chips is like a slice of a razorblade, only instead of scars you get high blood pressure, blocked arteries, muscular damage, the list goes on.

On a side note: Until the 40's there was no reliable cure for leprosy. There are many reliable methods of combatting obesity. However, I accept the analogy on all other points, as obesity is just as detrimental to quality of life, social interaction and overall happiness and health.


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rogue nestling 8 years ago

We can't legislate prfect mental and physical health. Nobody is born perfect and we all have our trials. Sure, I need to eat less and exercise more, but I hardly eat junk. I try to make healthy choices, but I do overdo it on occasion. I am not, however, a bottomless cow who stuffs herself at every waking hour. I have self-control and I use it everyday, even though to the outsider it may not appear so. It takes a lot of effort for me to keep from gaining weight, nevermind dropping it. I am not lazy, stupid or careless. I am a human being like any other...imperfect but alive.

I don't drink, and I don't do drugs. I sleep regular hours and brush my teeth. I have a roll around my middle, but I don't drive my car too fast, stick my hand in the snowblower blades or play chicken with trains. I resent the idea that the one bane of my existence, my battle with my weight, is looked at as being something being legislatible whereas any other weakness or indulgence any other person might have is okay.

You can't legislate people to live how you feel life should be lived, or to exist without repercussions on society. Keeping people from living, making mistakes, learning, struggling and coping, is turning people into mindless blobs with no chance of learning self-control. When you take away the ability for people to make decisions on their behalf, you are giving the state the right to speak for you and dictate how you live. And yes, it makes it hard when we have to support those with weaknesses, but we ALL have some weakness that makes us prone. And I'd rather a life with some trials and victories than a life without any choices. Because if we can't think for ourselves, and screw up on occasion, there's nothing human left in us.

Just my two cents.


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Zsuzsy Bee 8 years ago from Ontario/Canada

Right on Rogue! I agree 100%. regards Zsuzsy


Iðunn 8 years ago

I third that. :)


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djtphn1 8 years ago from Riverside County, California

I am sorry, but did not read all the comments as they are looonnnggg, but what is the basis for this bill? Why would they want to do this. Sounds like a civil rights issue to me.


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Garry Nelson 8 years ago from Hawaii

Another person's weight is not legislatable and it's not my or anyone else’s business.

My grandmother had her thyroid removed and was very fat because of it. She suffered horribly becaue people thought she was a glutton everyone just though it was about self control when it had nothing to do with eating choices. But even if it had, whose business is it?

I personally don't want to be saved from any choice I make, and I will never blame anyone else for my choices.

Garry


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

Wow! I had to play catch-up on the moderations this morning! I am not denying any comments here as you can probably tell because I believe it is important to speak our minds on this issue.

Although this bill is supposed to be a "joke" bill and never expected to pass, the mere issue of it before the committee is a slap in the face for the obese. They are already the subject of sneers, jokes, laughs, rude comments and pure discrimination as it is and all this is doing is adding to that negativity for them. This is like the case of "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink".

Instead of banning people for bad choices, why not ban the unhealthy foods? I'll tell you why! Because the food makers and restaurant owners would never allow it, that's why! If that was brough up, even as a joke bill, these business owners would be in an uproar!!

If these leaders were so concerned about the welfare of the obese, they would certainly have been creative enough and expanded the energy to create some other way to bring attention to this problem rather than humiliating them more! I think Oprah did enough of that on her show that is seen by millions of people each day. Awareness? I think not! There is plenty of awareness out there. This was simply testing the waters (just like the smoking ban was at first) to see if they can actually accomplish this!

Even if they pass the bill, that is not going to make people eat any less. In fact, they will most likely become a hermit due to the humiliation and eat even more. Wow! That would really help us lose wight, wouldn't it? Let's get real! There is no way that this would have any impact at all except a negative one.

Oh, and since we are banning people from making stupid choices that endanger their health, let's go ahead and ban the sale of sugar and any natural sugar containing foods to people who have diabetes. Oh, and don't forget to ban the sale of high cholesterol foods to those with cholesterol problems. And then there is the salty foods and things that effect the blood pressure of those who have that problem.

Come to think of it, we definitely need to ban the sale of anything remotely connected to the cause of cancer to those who are at risk on that end. Now that we have this done, can someone suggest a good place for me to go grocery shopping?


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Just Toyia 8 years ago from Tennessee

Exactly, that's what they need to ban, foods with harmful chemicals and additives- those things that harm everyone not just a single group of people- those items which have altered our brain chemicals and so forth, there's just not enough "good" food that all can afford- That's where we need to start-I had a heck of a time finding fruit juice with no additives ! and our meat products? ugh!


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stubbs 8 years ago from London

not ban foods that are bad for you, where would be the fun in that? just educate people into what they are eating seems like a reasonable idea to me.


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Froggy213 8 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico

Wow,this is a wild hub.First,my opinion on this food thing.Who is the man that is pure enough to tell me or mine how they are supposed to eat?Some people have had thyroid or other problems and don't eat real bad and are still obese.On the gun issue,the gun doesn't kill-the man pulling the trigger does;look at facts and figures of no guns in some countries and you will find criminals will still get guns.I believe with the knowledge anyone may have a gun on them it will keep a criminal in check.

As for smoking--I try to be as courteous as possible--I ask non-smokers to do the same.I don't have a clue to your age gamergirl,but look back in the 50's,60'sand 70's ads--Take a good look at who they were based at--the cigarette companys made them sound as if they were good for you.Heck,the local store owner would sell them to me when I was 8.Smoking was the "in"thing,just as there are "in"things now that you will find out were bad for you 10-20 years from now.

Using empathy is a wise thing!


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Betty Jo Petty 8 years ago from Arkansas, U.S.A.

Since being told get off sugar, exercise more and lose weight or start taking shots, I have Really been trying to eat more carefully. I am diabetic, I have Thyroid problems (taking medicine year-round for it), also my Triglycerides are so high it's almost unbelievable. So I also have to watch what I eat because of that.

Medical problems Do cause weight problems, not just what we eat. I have had neck surgery twice, other unmentionable surgeries, open-heart surgery two years ago, have a bad ankle from playing football in high heels, just tossing the ball around at nineteen, two kinds of arthritis, maybe more...

Exercise Hurts, but I have been doing it. Mostly my exercise Bike. But I'm still at 150 pounds and am afraid it's not good enough for my doctor.

Good foods??? What can I eat? That's a major problem. I thought fruit would be okay, even a nurse said okay, but a doctor told me it's also sugar, and the fruit juice is, also. Not even counting everything made with flour which turns to sugar, and since by body can't handle it, it all turns to Guess What?? FAT!!!

Even food we think should be okay for us is Not. I absolutely believe there should be a warning on anything with sugar in it, or turns to sugar telling of the Danger. How old do you have to be for sugar to hurt you?

Even children as young as two can develop Diabetes!!!!!!!!!!

Why not suggest to companies, which some are, to lessen their fattening food sales? Cigarettes have warnings, why not Foods? Even some Milk has added sugar.

I have lost fifteen pounds, but that's not enough. Good Luck, everyone. Betty Jo


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roman3333 8 years ago from Los Angeles

Hi, I’m new to hubs and I really like your article. This is crazy! I’m of the belief that you should be able to swing your fist until it hits someone else’s nose. How do obese people affect others? Not at all! I don't believe that our states leaders would joke about this. They should be correcting real problems, not joking about obesity.


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shesagogetter 8 years ago from Ontario, Canada

Instead of a law to ban obese people from restaurants (which is totally rediculous since even obese people do need to eat!) they should be passing a law that prevents restaurants from serving junk food! To me this would be the more logical solution to obesity. If only wholesome food is on the menu there is less chance of anyone being overweight. Stop allowing "super-sized" meals to be sold! Start using portion control in restaurants. Get rid of all transfats, etc. THAT should be the focus and NOT stopping obese people from entering restaurants.


Mary 8 years ago

To all:

Obesity has a wide variety of reasons, and just the same there is an important factor not considered (at least in the messages I did read): The restaurant owners will loose income. People who are big in size usually have money, you can not buy junki food and groceries if you do not have money thus restaurants will loose big chunks of change if the law is approved, this will cause serious circulating problems economically and your country is not quite up to loose circulation money.

On the other hand: when should they consider a person fat? Obesity might just be a problem of perception like any other problem. The heavy smoker that thinks he's just a occasional smoker or the "social" drinker... Are people expected to have a scale at the entrance? Will it be done to the eye of the beholder -as if they were cattle? HAHAHAHA

Your contry is NOT a peaceful and tolerant one. So this bill will only cause "slim" people to hunt down "big" people in schools, social events, the street, public places and public transportation, the next step is to ban them from any and all medical attention. HAHAHAHAHA I sure hope that you do not get that far, but it just might.

I regard this the same as you guys do in the presidential election last time, be careful what you choose, you might not like it. Or ask the hundreds of families that have vacant chairs at their dinning tables thanks to friendly fire in Iraq. Yes, most of the kills have come from friendly fire.


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timsbiz 8 years ago from Atlanta

Could this be all but a publicity stunt,to keep Mississippi in the news?

That's how silly sounding the whole Ban obesity in restaurants is. Sounds like some politicians are a few fruit loops shy of a bowl. lol.

Working in a building full of lawyers, I know this would be quite a gravy train.

Sorry for the puns, but you are right,you cant fix stupid,but you can replace stupid.

Great Hub,

Tim


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Deer Hill 8 years ago from Snohomish, Wa.

Great Hub! you have hit on a hot topic here.


matthew teague 8 years ago

is this not fascism at the core? you don't fit in you cannot play our games how dare they tell me and most my family we cant eat out once a month that is the equivalent of racism in the 1920s here they are just jacking off our money.


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G-Ma Johnson 8 years ago from NW in the land of the Free

Yeah.... and it seems to me that there must be many more important issues to be concerned about then what we eat or what we weigh.

If we are to be boasting about anything let's boast about God..Good deeds,etc.

not making JOKEs about power. just how much food is wasted in this country..how many people are starving in this country...like someone said "serve smaller portions" use smaller plates....

So much has already been said there's just nothing left..God Bless all of you for your caring and spunk and this is a great Hub and wish I had been here at the beginning. G-Ma :O) hugs


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Stacie Naczelnik 8 years ago from Seattle

Obesity is a serious issue in the United States. Something does need to be done to address it. However, I think this sort of "joke" legislation is a waste of time and tax-payers' money. It would be better to spend time creating legislation that bans trans fats from foods. Or banning the use of high fructose corn syrup from foods. Schools shouldn't be forced to cut P.E. and recess because of budget cuts. People should be awarded and encouraged to make healthy lifestyle choices.

Legislation is not going to fix the problem by itself, but it is part of a multi-faceted solution.

As someone who was once obese, I can honestly say that weight loss can happen. You can become healthier and feel better, both physicall and emotionally.


Ghost32 8 years ago

Hey, Bonnie--

I'll know I've "arrived" on Hub when I produce a page that stirs as many passionate comments as this one already has for you! I could hardly add to that well-stirred mix except for maybe one thing:

Not to defend the author of that bill, but I will mention a lesson he no doubt missed. If you (or others) remember Randy Newman's super-controversial hit song titled "SHORT PEOPLE"? Randy has always claimed is was meant entirely as satire, and I tend to believe him. But most people take things literally, missing the satirical slant entirely. I used to enjoy writing satire, but haven't penned a single satirical word since Newman took his "Short People" whacking.

My point being: Like they say, History Repeats Itself. Obviously, so do politicians.

Ghost32


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Bonnie Ramsey 8 years ago from United States Author

LOL, Ghost,

I would certainly have to agree with that! Thanks so much for stopping by. Your comments are always welcome on any of my pages!

Bonnie


Michael Reed 7 years ago

I enjoy some of the websites of the state of Mississippi, such as the Mississippi Museum of Natural Science and the Jackson zoo. However, I would like to see that the state of Mississippi have more opportunities and health care in the future.

Have fun and faith in God.

P.S. I am not a native Mississippian.

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