Clinton vs Trump 2016 - What Happened and Why?

What Happened in the 2016 USA Presidential Election

In school, elections were mostly “popularity contests”. The 2016 USA presidential election between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump was similar but debated on a lower, dirtier, more expensive level than ever seen in school elections. The real issues were weakly covered while dramatic issues such as corruption, sex, and what the other guy is evil became the spot light.

Well, what happened?

- Hillary Clinton, her supporters, most politicians, and the majority of mass media were embarrassed and lost the electoral vote. Some say because her plan forward for the country was simply a continuation of Obama's which - sorry to say - did not deliver.

- Donald Trump, his family, some conservative politicians and working class supporters, and FOX news were thrilled and won the election. Some feel because he WILL bring change - real change include national pride, reduce the ridiculous pandering and belittling of minorities and women, and forcibly boost American business interests which should create more American jobs.

I admit even I was surprised with the amazing, supposedly "come from behind" Trump victory as my faith in America’s remaining potential for goodness, honesty and hard work has been shaken for some time now.

Election Results Map & Spend Profile

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WHAT DID WORK

- Trump’s strong public image from TV shows, beauty pageants, and business

- Trump’s clear and consistent message for change - Make America Great Again!

- Trump’s promise to DELETE the overpriced & corrupt Obamacare (ACA) and build something better

- Trump’s passion and authentic-ness. His daring to say and do politically taboo things

- Trump’s support by the NRA and select military and law enforcement groups

- Trump’s pro AMERICAN business growth, reduced regulations and desire to “win” versus foreign business competitors

- Trump’s desire for American military support to be financially respected and remunerated by foreign powers when deployed

- Trump’s not releasing or digging into distracting, overly detailed information such as complex tax returns or detailed plans. This helped to keep his message to the people clear and simple

- Trump’s extended family and friends support – including his attractive wife and daughter


Trump Altruism

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WHAT DID NOT WORK

- Clinton’s message of business as usual with Obamacare, etc based on her ~ 30 years of shady experience & cheating hubby including support of unpopular deals like NAFTA and ACA. (See: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/opinion/cupp-gruber-obamacare/ )

- Clinton’s misuse of an obviously compromised liberal news media.

  • Obviously timed release of multiple decade+ old “sex grouping or verbal scandal allegations” against Trump. (The people are desensitized to sex. Semi-sex scandels with no pictures or proof are less impactful. Heck many people are barely amused with Netflix House of Cards series or the 50 Shades of Grey movie.)
  • The false early polling data about a “sure thing” Clinton victory early on backfired. It probably caused many of the Clinton supporters to not bother voting since their vote seemed unneeded

- Clinton implying Trump was a tax cheat for taking tax deductions for large business losses that later allowed for a few years of zero tax liability due to the carryover loss

  • Most working tax payers KNOW that passive business and stock losses are normal and legal ways to deal with future taxes.

- Clinton’s complaints against Trump for his push on the Obama birth certificate issue and the Russian/ Putin supposedly scandalous support for Trump

- Stock market futures on election day implied stock market crash if Trump won was believed! Yet before the 800+ point drop on Nov 9, 2016 occurred as threatened by media, the DOW instead rose over 256 points?

- Hillary’s email scandal and her + Obama’s possible manipulation of the FBI to cover it up

- Clinton’s campaign budget and spending was DOUBLE that of Trump

  • Clinton received TRIPLE from super PACs and foreigners over Trump
  • Clinton personally contributed about 1 million- or 1% to 2% of Trump’s personally contributed 50 to 90 million- financially to their race. (“Trump's actions showed more conviction”. Trump spent 50 times more personal capital than Clinton yet Trump won the race "cost effectively" since he spent around half of what Hillary did.)

- Barack Obama and Bill Clinton’s fervent campaigning for Hillary Clinton and against Trump. Even select Republican such as GW Bush did not vote Trump? Yet They all FAILED

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Segments of the public disliked both candidates’ personality and style for varied reasons.

Clinton being untrustworthy and a cornerstone in old school corrupt Washington politics. Her hubby cheated on her with a questionable attractive Monica Lewinski in the White House yet Democrats thought out of date tape recordings and old semi sex allegations against trump would sway modern America?

Trump having multiple divorces and no military or political background coupled with a strong, aggressive NY personality. Trump’s supposed anti- women or anti-minority positioning was not proved although many college students appear to believe it and are staging post-election protests.

THIS election was a PROTEST VOTE and Mr. President Elect Trump was the result.

People the government and mass media is corrupt. Politicians do NOT care about the country as a whole or its future. Trump as a true outsider appears to care and with his conviction might make America Great Again for us and our children. Wouldn't it be great to truly believe in and be proud of a leader again!

It was the democrats and compromised politicians that rammed in place a crooked Obamacare / ACA federally enforced public HealthCare plan. This is unforgivable and should be a negative legacy for Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and others. Many people are now paying between $1,000 and $3,000 each month for BAD healthcare insurance with high copays and more impactful high deductibles. Those ultra-high prices include people between 50 and 70 years of age. The government LIED about ACA and its age tiered pricing. They also failed to work the backlash effect by doctors and hospitals which has resulted in lower quality HealthCare and an inappropriate desire by some to get back the money lost to big insurance by inappropriately requesting costly follow ups or other treatments.

Healthcare in 2017 is going to increase in cost by 20% to over 100% for many people as compared to 2016. Hundreds of working class Americans have voluntarily dropped healthcare to instead opt to pay the penalty and in cash for any needed healthcare. That reality is according to 2 hospital workers in Houston Texas. Obama's healthcare earmarked corruption known as the Affordable Care Act (ACA) has resulted in potentially millions of working class families now voluntarily have NO healthcare to try and instead gamble and save for their kids college fund or retirement versus paying the absurdly high cost of ACA insurance. The politicians and the artificially enriched insurance and pharmaceutical companies should pay this abusive tax fee - NOT the people!


BE HAPPY. America’s working class and NON-SEXIST men and women have spoken and were heard!

Charity Foundations?

A 2016 politifact.com article compared Clinton and Trump foundations. Unlike the biased media, this comparison added truth and clarity.

Just as in the election, Clinton represented and controlled big money, big business, big favor and big corruption.

CLINTON foundation with $350 million is assets and 500 employees VERSUS Trump's less than $2 million in assets with zero employees???

CLINTON is a criminal similar to the crooked press. The HUGE Clinton foundation is criminal in keeping over 90% of contributions for internal costs while sharing less than 10% of such contribution with those they are "saving". The over sized 500 employees group is obviously a "get your payoff" set up.

TRUMP's foundation is less than 1% of the size of Clinton's with no real money involved. People READ the FACTS. Trump is a billionaire and $10 to $20,000 to him is insignificant spend. TRUMP has virtually no staff in that foundation since he is NOT BRIBING or giving PAYOFFS like Clinton.

TRUMPS organization is a part time vehicle to occasionally try & help other good charities.

CLINTON's organization is unbridled corruption to the core with 5 cent on the dollar given to those they profess to help. Yet the media tricks many into believing the opposite.

REAL Violence and Hate

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Voter Violence - who is doing it and did Media cause it?

Two parallel strands of reports about violence were running across the American landscape in the days before and after Donald Trump’s shocking election to the presidency.

There are reports of pro-Trump violence - but are they true?

A female Muslim student at the University of Louisiana in Lafayette claimed two white men wearing Trump hats ripped off her hijab and stole her wallet the day after the election... and then.. the 18 year old Muslim woman later admitted to police she had fabricated her story, and the Louisiana incident is formally no longer under investigation.Public Information Officer Karl Ratcliff said police will charge the student with filing a false police report. Meanwhile her identity has been carefully protected even though guilty of slander and filing a false police report - but then against she is Muslim and their SIG has afforded that race extra right beyond the average race American under Obama.

Gay Canadian filmmaker Chris Ball claimed he was severely beaten and bloodied by Trump supporters in Santa Monica, California, shortly after the election. However, evidence of Chris Ball’s attack has not been confirmed by local police or hospitals as pro Trump related. Further, Ball, says he’s now “in good spirits:” and does NOT THINK it was really a political issue – it was a hate issue, fueled by the charged atmosphere of the election night, with a group of drunk people who used Trump’s rhetoric as an excuse to get in a fight. He feels it could very well have been a Clinton supporter, or just someone else with a homophobic attitude on any other night – it’s an ongoing issue.

On the other hand, very visible anti-Trump demonstrations rocked many cities across America in the three days after the election. While many demonstrators were peaceful, many others were violent.

In Portland, a few members of an angry crowd vandalized 19 cars at a dealership before heading to a different part of town to smash the windows of several businesses. According to USA Today, demonstrators met with an anarchist group, after which they vandalized buildings, kicked cars and knocked out power.

Another issue that was indeed covered up 2 days after posting was a pro Trump supporter being publicly beaten by a half dozen black pro-Clinton supporters.

Story: A group of ~ 6 men and women viciously beat a 49-year-old man named David Wilcox while screaming phrases such as “You voted Trump” and “Don’t vote Trump.” This was after a black sedan side swiped his car in Chicago on November 9, 2016. Vehicles were stopped to discuss issue and exchange insurance. "David stopped and parked and asked if they had insurance, and the next thing that he knew they were beating him up for voting for Trump - apparently due to his bumper sticker. His life was threatened, car was taken, and no one was arrested. He is a white guy and the attackers were black men and women." See media links below including video while available.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/11/video-shows-group-beating-man-in-chicago-yelling-you-voted-trump-and-dont-vote-trump/

This Trump supporter "fear" of corrupted Pro-Clinton support violence applies to many areas of the country including downtown Houston Texas and in other cities where pro Trump supporters wanting to reserve tables at restaurants or churches are being asked to reconsider or at least NOT by wear red or have any pro-republican campaign material shown in public. This is being down out of FEAR of pro-CLINTON supporter VIOLENCE. Again Trump is also trying to calm the environment and I agree with him that the unchecked liberal violence was caused by the democrat controlled mass media and the mis and dis information propaganda they routinely share.

DIFFERENT TREATMENT -

Look how Republican Jeff Bush was treated by NBC's Today show for an 11 year old tape of him laughing at Mr. Trump male jokes and comments about attractive women. The tape was illegally made by others then unethically hidden and release by Clinton supporters at a well planned time to try and derail Mr Trump's campaign. Bush had just started a new job for less than 6 months on the Today show but was IMMEDIATELY FIRED for being associated with an 11 year old conversation? Bush had no complaints or other missteps associated with his work other than not being a Clinton supporter. Result- Bush was fired.

In contrast, Matt Harrigan a stark -raving rich white California liberal of cyber security firm "PacketSled" uses his CIA connected sleazy judgement to make multiple Facebook postings about how bad America is and how he wants to shoot Mr Trump? These are criminal offenses yet it took days before he was ~ forced to resign as CEO. The media - again- was biased and didn't note that Matt is STILL EMPLOYED by the same company in public relations role. RESULT= Matt was NOT fired and still has a job at same office.

Liberals are punished much less severely for far greater misbehavior than conservatives.

Chicago car jacking by Pro-Clinton "supporters"

Video pulled - as predicted- by YouTube

As I predicted on 11 Nov 2016, the short YouTube video that illustrated wild, criminal, pro CLINTON supporters violence against Trump supporter was removed by YouTube around noon on Sunday 13 Nov 2016.

This removal was apparently done to reduce tension and cover up violent, multiple black on single white crime since the act in question embarrasses the democratic party and their mass media reporters.

Consider that YouTube is a business and removing a politically controversial and liberal damming semi-violent video on a Sunday morning was done as a special favor for someone.

See this alternate "short version" link ( while it lasts) :

https://twitter.com/jenn_abrams/status/796637421454630912

White Women are sexist if they voted Republican?

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How Clinton campaign think woman think

14 Nov 2016- on MSNBC former Clinton campaign communications director Ms. Jess McIntosh claimed it was "white" women with “internalized misogyny” who couldn’t bring themselves to vote to elect the first woman president.

Jess stated that she, Clinton and Obama feel that American society is not comfortable with Women having powerful roles.

She made the clear plea to the American public stating" Why.. Why would we ( women ever) vote against our self interests". (link http://www.theamericanmirror.com/now-clinton-campaign-blames-women-loss-internalized-misogyny/ )

This statement was made after looking at the 2004 to 2016 white women vote for president figures stating that a consistent pro republican position was seen in 4 straight elections.

Yet the democrat politicians and campaign people feel the reason for this is internalized anti female sexism?

PEOPLE - Jess and Clinton are overt SEXISTS..

READ her statement above or listen to it on the link playback. She and the media are by definition sexist - when they ask and expect any female to vote for another female out of self interest and not out of what is thought to be best for the country.

Democrat online feedback summary on Trump

Are Republican or Democrat supporters more violent?

Mild /small anti-Obama post election protests

There were some fringe anti-Obama republican protesters in 2012. As many and 30 or 40 people in one area according to the NY times. Yet no injuries or property damage was reported?

Did those bad conservatives have inappropriate signs and say stupid things like " Not my President"? Yes a few did.

Now we have false media spawned daily protests causing millions in damages and injuries by liberals.. Chanting the same exact " Not my president" phrase they copied from 2012. Some of whom are paid protesters and many more of whom did not bother voting !

Who is SEXist in America?

Sexism versus misogyny

Do all Americans in the USA embrace sexism, misogyny or none of the above? The answer is "Yes" to sexism, sometimes to misogyny but it different ways with a varied range of what is right. look at the ads above associated with news clips for example.

Women and girls think differently and ARE treated differently than boys. Everyone knows this and few honestly want it to change. This behavior and social mindset is trained by parents, friends, and media just as a differently reality is trained into boys.

There are pros and cons ... fun and pain... associated with either the traditional male or female roles in society.

Live, enjoy and deal with it - OR you can be dishonest and hypocritical like liberals tend to be regarding this overt reality.


Vote cheating?

What about voter fraud claims? Both sides noted concern over voter fraud but team Trump was the most concerned.

Anything to this issue? Lets look logically at the situation.

1. Which group had the strongest party and longest term political connections?

2. What states voter identification "laws" make cheating very easy with NO ID required?

Clinton clearly had the strategic advantage with a 30 year long DC political career with the Democratic party.

Clinton won more of the states with "no voter ID" required. Trump won over more of the states with photo ID laws.

Therefore if there was cheating then Clinton Democrats are more likely guilty.


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Truman 4 weeks ago

I believe that both candidates were flawed.

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Trump and his supporters are:

- Represented best by multi-race working class folks plus pro-Christian White men & women. (In “Atlas Shrugged” the smart, aggressive business leadership and builders illustrated pro-Trump ideals)

- Against corruption and manipulation by biased mass media,

- Against Obamacare corruption, all race/ gender discrimination, and “taxation without real representation “

- Against violent Muslim extremists that kill and for keeping citizens safe through search & seize

- Against discriminatory voting and employment practices

- For “free and brave” leadership that speaks their mind

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Clinton and her supporters are:

- Represented best by inner city folks, welfare mis-users, cocktail liberals, and inexperienced pro-entitlement college kids (in “Atlas Shrugged” the sleazy government and corrupt, weak executives and scared compromised workers illustrated pro-Clinton ideals)

- Comfortable with compromised mass media that lies to the people

- Comfortable with corrupted ACA healthcare, socialist wealth redistribution, and anti-Christian lifestyles

- Comfortable with extreme race and gender based discrimination against white men and women

- More comfortable with hate and violence against others

- Comfortable with compromised mass media that lies to the people

- Comfortable with covert corruption through sleazy political leadership


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suzettenaples 3 weeks ago from Taos, NM

Both candidates are flawed. Trump is not authentic, in my opinion, because all he did was lie throughout the election and didn't care. If authentic is his hate spewed rhetoric, misogyny, zenephobia, racism, etc. then down with authenticity. Yes, Hillary came into this race with a lot of baggage, but she is a decent human being who campaigned for inclusion not exclusion like Trump. She is more than qualified and Trump is unqualified and incompetent. It was a sad day in America when Trump was elected.


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jman00001 3 weeks ago from Texas Author

Truman & Suzett, thank you for your feedback.

Most reasonable people agree that both candidates are flawed. Further this 2016 Presidential race was the strangest, dirtiest, least "professional" "debate" I have ever seen. The 3 debates were "odd" to say the least. Mrs Clinton provoking and Mr Trump overreacting.

(Trump is NOT a politician and won in spite of many Republican defectors working against him. Trump deserves credit and consideration for that just as Clinton deserved added embarrassment since even ex-Pres Bush didn't support Trump)

The openly crooked mass media reporting by NBC, CBS and other liberal controlled firms was amazing, obvious, repeatedly false and on Nov 8 ADMITTED TO on public TV by corespondents on those channels.

People - EVERYONE was LIED TO by dozens of mass media corespondents from Sept 26 until Nov 8, 2016 at a minimum. Trump obviously won those debates similar to the online , real time polls indicated. However ALL non FOX media news people said the opposite and created custom polls that stated the opposite that Clinton won the debates. This was not a simple one time mistakes .. It happened dozens of times over that time period. I said up Nov. 8 watching election results on multiple channels ( FOX, CBS and NBC). I focused on CBS and watched reporters ADMIT they did a POOR JOB of POLLING as they forgot to include rural America once Trump's lead was obvious and undeniable?

You were LIED to regarding straight simple facts by CBS and NBS and others regarding Trump. Since democrat liberals clearly controlled most USA mass media, I submit that the American people have been given dis-information about Trump similar to the dis-information shared about projected election results by liberal owned news.

Personally my biggest concerns for our future are:

- overpriced, under delivered govt mandated healthcare "insurance" ( Insurance firms have NEVER been more profitable- thanks to ACA)

- improving American based job + company competition in world market

- disinformation routinely presented by mass media as news

- bringing the american people "together" +stopping PC discrimination ( Obama's 8 years made things more divided- as 2016 election illustrates)


Ron 3 weeks ago

First of all, the popular vote doesn't matter, and neither does the electoral vote. The shadow government that Woodrow Wilson warned about is as real as rain. Trump was elected President even before the primaries began. He was elected by the same cabal of puppet masters who elected Obama, Bush, and all who came before. If you are an opponent of Trump there is no cause for alarm. If you are a supporter of Trump there is nothing to really celebrate. He is simply the new face of an old regime. He will do no more or no less than he is told.

The movie "Forrest Gump" was popular because it is a metaphor for the average confused American. People love watching stories about themselves. It has the same appeal as karaoke. No matter how bad it looks or sounds, they love it because it's all about them! In the real world governments don't "vote" for change. They do not "peacefully protest" while marching around the world holding hands and singing Kumbaya. Instead, they deploy armies and weapons of mass destruction to get things done and to make a difference. In other words, when things don't go their way they start killing people! That includes innocent men, women, and children, as well as enemy combatants. That's how significant changes are made in the real world.

Yet, in spite of this, the average American still believes they can "vote" their way to a better world. It is pathetic, disgusting, and I am sick and tired of seeing simple minded people being exploited , oppressed, and used as guinea pigs and cannon fodder by a ruling elite. The dumb white redneck has been a favorite tool of the shadow government since the tyrants wore wigs and raped slave women for sport. Obama talked about change and was able to distract the people with an imaginary light at the end of the tunnel. Now this years model, Donald Trump, is also offering change, but of a different flavor. He has appealed to the white racist desire for a return to the glory days of Jim Crow: a time when men were men, blacks knew their place, and the cows and the sheep were scared.

But whether we are talking Obama or Trump, we are fundamentally talking about a distraction, a pacifier, a placebo, and the Greatest Show on Earth! No, I am not surprised that Trump won the election. Neither am I surprised that the average American will die just as ignorant as the day they were born. In four years, just like the little Lemmings marching to the sea, the Americans will all go out and vote again... for change.


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jman00001 3 weeks ago from Texas Author

Ron - Interesting point.

One other note about Mrs Clinton and her "wonderful" charity the Clinton foundation. It appears that the "wonder" is in the misdirected profits back to Clinton friends and family.

Hillary's charity - The Clinton Foundation: that she bragged about during the campaign keeps over 90% of donations for internal expenses!!!

In 2014 only 5.7% went to the stated beneficiaries according to IRS filing... IRS charity tax return:  http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2014/311/580... 

They spent a hair under $91.3 million in 2014, the organization’s IRS filings show. But less than $5.2 million of that went to charitable grants.

That number pales in comparison to the $34.8 million the foundation spent on salaries, compensation and employee benefits. Another $50.4 million was marked as “other expenses,” while the remaining almost $851K was marked as “professional fundraising expenses.”

Reference link: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/16/just-5-7-percent...

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/16/just-5-7-percent...

Also consider the large group of republicans that sided AGAINST Trump during Nov 8 election.

Elected Officials

PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH announced that he IS NOT going to vote for Donald Trump! Imagine the consternation in the Republican Party.

Senator Liza Murkowski (R-AK) just announced, with less than 30 days to go, that Donald Trump "has forfeited his right to be our Party's nominee"

Senator John McCain (R-AZ) just unendorsed Donald Trump with less than 30 days to go before the election and urged him to leave the race.

Senator Mike Crapo (R-ID) just "unendorsed" Donald Trump less than 30 days before the election saying Trump’s repeated actions and comments toward women “disrespectful, profane and demeaning.” Crapo further says “I urge Donald Trump to step aside and allow the Republican party to put forward a conservative candidate like Mike Pence ...'

Senator Mark Kirk (R-IL) will not vote for Trump or Hillary, some think he might write-in former Secretary of State Collin Powell (I would vote for him if he ran). Kirk, on Oct 7, urged Donald Trump to quit the race.

Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) will not vote for Trump or Hillary; maybe libertarian Gary Johnson

Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) just unsupported Donald Trump with less than 30 days to go before the election and urged him to leave the race. She will write in Gov Pence's name instead

Senator Rob Portman (R-OH) just unsupported Donald Trump with less than 30 days to go before the election and urged him to leave the race. He will write in Gov Pence's name instead

Senator Larry Pressler (R-SD) endorsed Hillary Clinton over Trump after the Orlando massacre

Senator John Thune (R-SD), the No. 3 Senate Republican and a member of Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's inner circle, wants Trump to "withdraw," saying, "Mike Pence should be our nominee effective immediately."

Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), who has been outspoken in his opposition to Trump, writes "There is no reason to believe that either of these two national front-runners believe in limiting anything about DC’s power.". Sasse, on Oct 7, urged Donald Trump to quit the race

Senator Dean Heller (R-NV) will not vote for Donald Trump saying “Today, I’m opposed to his campaign ... He did a lot of damage. It’s very difficult for him, as far as I’m concerned, to recover from his previous comments. I’ll give him a chance, but at this point, I have no intentions of voting for him.”

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) wants his colleagues to to stop endorsing Trump and to rescind them if they already have.

Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) just unendorsed Donald Trump with less than 30 days to go before the election and urged him to leave the race.

Rep. Richard Hanna (R-NY) will not vote for Donald Trump but instead will vote for Hillary Clinton

Rep. Scott Rigell (R-VA), Rep. Reid Ribble (R-WI) along with at least 68 other elected Republican leaders and Party officials signed a letter asking the RNC to stop supporting Trump (which it is considering); another 50 Republicans of all types have also signed. Rigell says he will vote for Gov. Gary Johnson, libertarian.

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) said in a statement, "In this election, I do not support either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton."

Rep. Reid Ribble (R-WI) said in December that he would never support Trump because "He's continued to be, in my opinion, against the civil discourse that I so deeply believe in, that would allow us to have a real live debate on the issues that are important to this country."

Rep. Mark Sanford (R-SC) is another #NeverTrump supporting saying to the The Wall Street Journal, "Not that political views mean anything in this year, but because I believe in constitutionally limited government, his candidacy is one I certainly can’t support."

Rep John Chaffetz (R-UT), on Oct 7, suggested Trump quit the 2016 Presidential race after being disgusted by Trump's misogynistic remarks.

Rep Martha Roby (R-AL), on Oct 7, suggested Trump quit the 2016 Presidential race after being disgusted by Trump's misogynistic remarks.

Gov Robert Bently (R-AL) said on Oct 8 that he "cannot and will not vote for Donald Trump."

Gov. William Milliken (R-MI) said Trump does not reflect the “ideals” of“tolerance, civility and equality,” and added that he would be supporting Clinton for the presidency.

Gov. John Kasich (R-OH) says about why he won't support Trump, "Why would I feel compelled to support someone whose positions I kind of fundamentally disagree with?"

Gov. Arne Carlson (R-MN) will not vote for Donald Trump but will vote for Hillary Clinton

Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA), defeated 2012 GOP presidential nominee, will not vote for Trump or Clinton, but may vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson

In spite all that TRUMP still won the election!


Ivan 3 weeks ago

Hillary Clinton has said the church is wrong as per their ideologies and that they need to change...how arogant is that? Her disregard for security practices, which are a disregard for the law, she has effectively shown her disregard for the American people at large as we are a country of laws to be followed by all...except for her and her cronies.

All in all, we have taken a bullet in the form of Donald Trump BUT we did managed to dodge a much LARGER caliber bullet in the form Hillary Clinton.


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jman00001 3 weeks ago from Texas Author

Ivan- thank you for your reply. I agree in principal with your opinion. We will have to wait and see what our new leader will do. His initial term limit anti-corruption agenda has both parties up in arms.

There seems to be a major gap in America's understanding of fairness, balance and race/ gender equality.

You have Billy Bush ruthlessly fired by NBC on October 2016 for laughing in 2005 at Trump's male jokes about attractive women? The damming audio tape was illegally purchased and hidden by the pro Clinton group for a carefully timed release to try and sabotage President Elect Trumps run against Hillary. Yet no investigation of that illegal political press release action seems to exist.

In comparison, you have liberal loving Matt Harrigan, recent CEO of network security firm PacketSled threatening to murder the democratically elected president elect with multiple Facebook postings. To shoot Trump with a sniper rifle and then the secret service? He is a rich, white, California based liberal with shady ties to ex- CIA leadership. It took about 1 week for him to be forced to resign. If he had not been a white male, then who knows, my friends think he would have gotten a raise instead at such a place?

Regardless it seems clear that anti- Republican, anti- Trump people receive much greater tolerance and sympathy from the media and the government than their counter parts do.

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