Facebook Exchange with my good friend Chas. by Merwin & Chas & Erik K.
Below is an exchange that occurred on Facebook with a very good friend named Chas who happens to be a Non-Theist, he does not like the term atheist. The exchange was a result of a “shared” James A. Melton posting of a Picture of Stalin and a caption that read… “My empire killed over 20 million of its own people. However, if you ask college students today who is responsible for the most evil they will say the United States. Marxist indoctrination works Comrade.” When I shared this on Facebook, I added this comment…
They would also say that Religions are responsible. And rarely, if ever, give a thought to the Atheistic Socialist Regimes of U.S.S.R. and China who together murdered at least 50 million and, according to some estimates as many as a 100 million.
Mankind is evil... only God is good.
What follows is the exchange of everyone that commented, but the reason for the Hub is to showcase my comments that replied to Chas specifically, to provide context. The first comment is from Chas I assume in response to my comment as well as the photo-posting of James A. Melton.
Fanatical and uncompromising pursuit of religious, political, or other ideals; fanaticism
I wasn't arguing numbers -- although I am certainly prepared to argue numbers -- but I was arguing cause. Nothing is rendered moot by accurate identification.
The Vatican, I believe, is responsible for the most deaths in history. All other puppet dictators are an extension, a tentacle of "the beast". Eugenics and depopulation is the name of their game.
Thinking about your blame zealotry comment... there is hardly a cause of any kind that does not have its zealots. Therefore, I think it may be a bit of a cop out to blame it for the murderous intent of a. character like Stalin who had a reputation of a cold and calculating nature, hardly the typical zealot.
Zealotry doesn't require that you are wild-eyed and foaming, and it isn't a characteristic necessary in leaders as much as in followers.
If you have the time, Eric Hoffer describes it brilliantly in this book:
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And it should then follow that zealotry would not necessarily require extreme behavior of any kind.
It seems to me to then be some kind of a catch all for zealots, to blame other zealots, who do not agree with the zealots in power, you know, those in power who wield the executioner's blade. Here a zealot, there a zealot, everywhere a zealot, zealot.
Your link looks like a good read... I will take it in sometime, thanks.
Merwin, zealotry is a mindset. There are Christian zealots, Buddhist zealots, atheist zealots, Marxist zealots... you name the dogma, and there are zealous adherents. There are "good" zealots, and bad. I'm not trying to "cop out," I'm trying to suggest a plausible why.
Anyway, I gotta skedaddle, or I'll be late for work.
What follows is my up to date reply and the reason for the Hub…
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Chas, I am not trying to be confrontational. If zealotry is a "mindset" (another term hard to pin down) then it is vague and difficult to distinguish until it shows its symptoms.
All too often the very clever "zealot" is not discovered until way after his/her damage has been wrought. He/she has utilized the talents he/she has to whip other zealots and followers into the frenzy it takes for them all to gain and keep murderous power.
This is the current global condition. Zealotry, if I understand you correctly, is usually tied to one leader and "movement", that holds power for at least one generation. And I don't believe this is our global case, it is relatively plain to me that this "zeal" for world building and domination, has had its modern beginnings with central banking.
This power grab has been a global concerted effort, cold and calculating spanning many generations. It, through its puppet regimes has been successful with murderous population control in many countries. And they now have the wherewithal for their ultimate and global, population control.
They, which have been studying previous models and current conditions have learned to manipulate smaller circumstances by which large adjustments may be made to the global political climates. Their current "sell" to the rank and file masses, is not unlike the selling points given by Robespierre of the bloody French Revolution, or Marx and Engels of the Communist Manifesto. Or, Hitler and Goebbels, Lenin and Stalin, or Mao Tse-tung.
These were the puppet regimes of the Money Masters, they, that have coldly calculated over many generations the level of global population needed for their Utopian goal, and what exactly is needful to keep it at that level.
The "two dimensional" propaganda devices in our living rooms are nearly irresistible to us who own them, flooding our fluoridated consciousness with the "mindsets" they want us to have.
To the Central Banks and the Corporatocracy, small businesses are a pariah. They have the potential to provide too much independence for John Q. Public and so they are being choked out of existence, intentionally. I know you don't think in these terms, but that does not make them any less probable. I could really go on and on and on...
I will cap this diatribe by stating that there is nothing to be done to "stop" this, as I believe that it all leads to the world government and religion of the Bible's Beast and Armageddon. My intention is not to stop it, but to advise those straddling the fence that they are out of time.
If you choose to refer to these historical models as "zealotry" and place the "blame" on the term, then in my thinking this is what can be considered to be a cop out and a form of minimization, especially for an intellect as elevated as your own.