My Feelings on Whether Bigfoot Exists or Not

This is what started it all

Anthropologist Grover Krantz with Bigfoot prints

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Who's to blame, credit?

Senseless-questions from intelligent people: Is it real? Is it not real? Can it be a hoax? “Is it the Missing Link to man?” And on and on. Let me try to answer: “No.” “No.” “Yes.” “No.” And I should be finished.

Actually, the late, Roger Patterson (February 14, 1926 – January 15, 1972), and friend, Bob Gimlin are to blame for this. Oh, rest Patterson’s soul. He was the first, allegedly, to publish an 8 mm. movie camera (film) he took while laying on his back recovering from his horse being frightened by a Bigfoot that he seen in the distance. And so the fuse was lit.

Artist conception of Sasquatch

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Photo of an alleged Sasquatch

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Where I met Sasquatch

I’ll never forget the night in March of 1972, that I sat alone in my ’64 Chevy at The Ford Drive-in Theater in my hometown: Hamilton, Alabama, growing more excited by the minute to be among the fifteen people that night at the drive-in to view Patterson’s “movie” made for theater: “Bigfoot: Real or Monster?” Before the film started, I wished I had asked my close friend, Steve Sullins, who was a year of me in school, and lover of this type of movies due to his naturally-cynical nature, to come with me to the showing.

With the coming attractions finished and warnings from now-late White Ford, the owner of the drive-in, to not be turning headlights on and off for fun, or leaving your car motor running to defog your windshield, over, the night grew quiet. And the moon was full. Perfect for a horror flick. Perfect for an allegedly-filmed event of a “creature,” discovered by Roger Patterson, who did make some good money early with his 8 mm. film.

I don’t know why, but all cheap-budget films such as Patterson’s film, rest his soul, have this one, deep-voiced, professional narrator such as the late Lee Marshall, voice of “Tony, The Tiger,” who has sold billions in Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes, who is really the one who sets off fear in your soul, not the under-funded movie.

Narrator: “Two friends . . .out on an expedition . . .to check-out rumors if North American Yhetti’s do exist . . .when suddenly . . .

Frame 352 of Roger Patterson's film

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Phil Thompson, citizen, measures Sasquatch print

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Back below my steering wheel

And with this trained-narrator’s deep bass voice and dramatic pauses, I was rocking to and fro to the dashboard and seat. He was moving me to extreme terror. So much terror that I noticed my driver’s side window was down, so up it went as if the quarter-inch (real) glass window would save me from this monster, “if, one were to be hiding in the pine woods that surrounded the drive-in. Plus I scooted as low as I could down below the steering wheel. I could see enough of the movie to not complain of my $2.50 ticket charge, and made my car look empty as to fool any Bigfoot who might stumble up to where I was parked in search of food.

So the film cut to some less-fearful footage, and before I could get easy, Bam!

Lee Marshall-sounding narrator: Once . . .this . . .mysterious, powerful . . .beast sets . . .his sight . . .on . . .YOU!

He . . .lets . . .out . . .a . . .howl . . .more . . .harrowing . . .than a . . .Lobo wolf . . .

Before I could slide down below the steering wheel . . .”Woooo—aaaaaa---eeeeeee—oooooooo!” I guess the howl, if I were drilled by Jack “Joe Friday” Webb, rest his soul, lasted close to three minutes. I know why the film’s producers used an alleged-howl of an alleged-Sasquatch, to scare people witless so their mouths could advertise the Sasquatch legend and this film to rake-in more monies from suckers (like me) all across the nation.

For this bit of marketing strategy, I give Patterson, Gimlin, and whoever’s garage production company produced this film and for hiring such a serious-toned narrator. To this day I can hear this man’s voice when I see a box of Frosted Flakes.

Let’s skip over all of the Sasquatch ventures, proven hoaxes, books by sober eyewitnesses, depositions revealed by nerve-shocked eyewitnesses who swear they saw a Bigfoot driving their fully-resorted military Jeep that was given to them by an uncle “Thad,” retired military man, and deal with a few reasonable theories and reasonable questions that “I” have to share about Sasquatch.

Man-made exhibit in Natural History Museum, Kassel, Germany

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Is the proof really in the pudding?

Questions:

  1. These “creatures” are flesh and blood, (this would be the only part I do believe) and do not live forever, so why has no one anywhere found a rotting carcass or skeleton of a deceased Sasquatch?

  2. A flesh and blood gorilla deficates like all mortal beasts, but even the smallest amount of defication has been found by any of the so-called “world-experienced” experts? Why?

  3. Did anyone ever think of using a powerful animal tranquilizer on these “beasts,” rather than just standing like an idiot with a fully-loaded 30-30 rifle and allowing the animal to run wild back into the woods?

  4. Are the Sasquatch that smart to keep eluding so many “expert” trackers and hunters?

  5. With the world-wide reporting of various Bigfoot sightings, why is it that not ONE Bigfoot has been captured?

These are the only five reasonable questions I have about Bigfoot.

Now for my theories:

  1. This is probably the only sensible theory I offer by way of capturing a Sasquatch alive. Take a few retired members of the Navy SEALS, Army Rangers, and Black Beret, who love a great adventure and allow a private, wealthy person to buy their equipment such as infared telescopes, high-powered tranquilizers, cargo nets that even a gorilla cannot break, a project planner who has the experience to lead these teams into action, and form a working battle plan along with the highest-priced, most-sensitive digital cameras to film the capture . . .then fly them into the last area where a Sasquatch was sighted and let the guys and girls do their job they way they did in defending our country.

I cannot satisfy you or myself as to if such a creature as a Bigfoot exists or not. I am sorry for failing. But I do hope that I live long enough to see a hub written by one of my valued-followers who “has” seen and recorded and now written about “Capturing Bigfoot.”

I promise if this happens, I will be the first one to follow the hubber who pulls this off and the first to offer them a personal “bravo!”

And if that hubber would call me, I would do my best to sound like Lee Marshall.

Tom Biscardi, CEO, Founder of BIGFOOT, Inc., holds up photo of alleged mouth of a Sasquatch

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torrilynn 2 years ago

Thanks for the hub I found it funny and true. The questions you asked gets the mind thinking. I thank you. Voted up.


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MizBejabbers 2 years ago

Of course Bigfoot exists. They were created in a test tube accident in Atlantis. A few survived the sinking, and they live in Middle Earth and sometimes come up to the surface through a stargate just to observe humans. I’m surprised you didn’t know that. They are very shy creatures and are afraid of humans. If you ever see one, don’t shout at him (or her). Just tip your hat and say, “hello brother.” If you’re lucky, he may speak back to you before he turns and runs back through the wormhole. Voted up and funny.


sheilamyers 2 years ago

Are they real or aren't they? There seems to be proof they are, but until one is captured - alive or dead - most people will remain skeptics. I tend to believe there's something out there yet to be found. Will that ever happen? I don't know and don't care. My thought is that it's all a giant mystery that will never be solved and I like it that way. Life would be boring without these types of mysteries.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

Hi, torilynn,

Thank you for your nice compliment. I appreciate that so much. This was my first offering on this topic. I could have done better, but I like for my hubs to have an opening for a sequeal . . . or rather a "Sasquatchel."


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

Hi, MizBejabbers,

Wow! You need to write Sci-Fi for this comment does sound convincing. And interesting too. I loved it. And thanks for taking interest in my subject.

If I were to head-up an expedition, and there is a friend of mine who wants to do an expedition, and were to have proof that BF exists, would you write the hub on it?

Visit with me often.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

Hello, sheilamyers,

I have to agree with your thinking. I truly think there is maybe something to this for there cannot be this many hoaxsters at work at the same time world-wide. Right?

And hey, I almost forgot. How is the casting going for The New Gilligan's Island going?

I turned down Tom Selleck who begged to play Gilligan. What a nerd.

Visit with me again.


sheilamyers 2 years ago

Kenneth: You hit one of the main points I always think about. There just can't be that many hoaxers out there. That still doesn't mean a Bigfoot exists, but to me there's still not enough to say there isn't.

As for the casting ... I haven't had time to give it much thought lately, but I'll get back to it.


Kenneth Avery 2 years ago

Hi, sheilamyers,

Thanks again for your comments, including this one. You're right. Someone on television said one night this week on one of those Discovery Channel Bigfoot exposes', the same question about why haven't any skeletons of Bigfoot ever been found, and that applies to bears too.

Something to think about.

Talk to you later and I will join you on the set of The New Gilligan's Island film when you need me.


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Healthyannie 2 years ago from Spain

Big Foot, the Yeti . . . a lot of these creatures do exist. We always like to presume we have discovered everything, we have not. Great hub!


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MizBejabbers 2 years ago

I would be happy to write a hub on your friend's expedition, Kenneth. I worked with a guy for several years who one day said to me that he never knew when I was teasing or serious. I told him that was true, and I mean to keep it that way.

I am being serious now. Years ago when I worked for a historic museum, the curator lent me a book about an Arab who went to the far north of what is now Europe and lived with a tribe of hairy semi-human ape-like warriors. These were very fierce people who never bathed and prided themselves on being so tough they didn’t have to take a bath. Unlike total animals they had a spoken language. When they raided a rival (human) village (on horseback), they left none of their dead behind. If one of them lost an arm, he or another picked it up and took it with them. There were no body parts left behind. Which I find, in itself, a little incredulous. Somebody’s going to at least lose a small part like a finger or a claw.

This book was based on a Viking (I think) tale that was supposed to be true. I wonder if these could have been a bigfoot-like people. Do you know the book I’m talking about? I don’t know the name of it.


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Healthyannie 2 years ago from Spain

I will check this book out, and I think it is related to the legends of Vinland.


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tsadjatko 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Bigfoot does exist, he lives with Peter Pan and Pinocchio in fairy tale land. The only reason this "legend" is kept alive today is so that hucksters and companies like Nat Geo, Reality entertainment, Xive TV and other entertainment companies can produce so called "documentaries" on big foot because advertisers know the gullible public hungers to know about mysteries. And if you have watched any (or God forbid all) of these shows over many years you know they are a total waste of time, never discover anything and always end with trumped up "experts" asserting they are on the way to unraveling the mystery... maybe.

Here is the latest example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpwOmy078Eg

of the same "prototype" bigfoot documentary production that wants you to believe there is something new but lead you down dead end path after dead end and in the end, as always it ends with charlatans pontificating over the evidence (what evidence?) and the possibilities (pipe dreams!) . Everyone of these productions is exactly the same, you'd think people would know by now they are just being duped by this age old monster story, and that is all it is, not a big foot, a big farce.


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cryptid 2 years ago from Earth

Interesting Kenneth! The Patterson Film remains one of the most compelling pieces of "evidence" out there, but still rightly falls under a tremendous amount of scrutiny. As Sheila said above, until there is a body this one is tough to prove.


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tsadjatko 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Evidence? You are kidding, right? Here is the best "evidence" you'll find anywhere. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/07/01/bigfoot-...

The only "evidence" that has ever been proven about bigfoot is the evidence proving hoaxes where bigfoot is concerned.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

tsadjatko,

Okay. So going back to the hard-liners who argue that there is such a ape-like creature, how can these hoaxes be so widespread and worldwide? And for whom or what are they for?

Perplexing, right?

Thanks for the proof, comment and your time.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

cryptid,

On this, I agree. But too, why hasn't the skeleton of a bear ever been found? They breathe. They live. So they die.

Thanks for your part in this debate.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

Healthyannie,

Thanks for your comment too.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

@ Healthyannie,

Thank you for the compliment on this hub. I gave it all I had.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

MizBeJabbeers,

Fascinating story. I am serious. Has there ever been a film documentary released on this tribe of people?

I find this more compelling than Patterson's film. Honest.

One day soon, I feel that minds greater than those of film makers will design a way to expose or prove such things as we are discussing.

Until that time.

Thank you all for your super-comments.


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tsadjatko 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

"Story" is right - when will you people learn these are all just that, stories - no hard evidence ever and bear skeletons have been found in North America and who is going to make an official report they found a bear skeleton anyway? we know bears exist - we have zero evidence that bigfoot exists and tons of evidence that claims he does are false.


Kenneth Avery 2 years ago

MizBejabbers is a truthful woman, taddjatko, and she wouldn't make-up a bogus story about (a) tribe of people as she describes.

Back to my original thought. Why haven't skeletons of Bigfoot been found?

And if they are a hoax, why the worldwide network of hoaxes? And whom are they pulling these pranks for?


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tsadjatko 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Grow up Kenneth - she said she read it in a book - because the "story" was written in a book doesn't make it true and her having read it and told you about what she read certainly doesn't make it true but does make it a story, which is btw exactly what you called it. You want some common sense answers to your questions? Well here they are. I'm surprised you haven't come across this while thoroughly researching the subject of your hub page.

Top 10 Reasons Bigfoot Probably Doesn’t Exist

The name Bigfoot is synonymous with mystery to many people out there; and after the countless claims – the sightings, footprints, videos and photographs – it would seem that there must be something strange in the woods of North America, right? Wrong. In this list I have shed some light on the harsh (un)reality of one of the world’s most cherished non-existent creatures. Josh Fox December 30, 2012

10) The Photographic and Video Evidence is Poor

Perhaps the most damning fact to disprove the existence of Bigfoot is the atrocious quality of evidence that has been presented. The scientific community has only been given hazy eyewitness accounts, extremely vague photographs and films, and a few blatantly hoaxed footprints.

In such pieces of video or photographic “evidence”, the subject is almost always either obscured by tree branches or extremely far away. It raises the question why the person filming the event (and there have been many) doesn’t simply chase the creature, or at least try and get a clearer shot. The famed Patterson-Gimlin video (shown above) is often cited as the clearest image of a potential Bigfoot yet released – and even this is shot from an extreme distance. Sounds convenient, doesn’t it?



9) Bigfoot Doesn’t Fit in the Food Chain

The average Bigfoot sighting is purported to place the creature at approximately 8-9ft tall and at 500-600lb in weight. The problem here is that such an immense creature cannot be eating enough food to survive, because the impact on the food chain would be incredible.

Scientists have proven that sasquatches would need to number in at least the tens of thousands to sustain themselves over the years through breeding. If these thousands of creatures are all packing away 5,000 calories worth of meat every day, where is the deficit in the animals/plants they are eating? Considering even a slight drop in the population of any given animal (or plant) causes large reverberations through the food chain, the statistics simply don’t add up.


8) Bigfoot is Too Big to Go Unnoticed

As mentioned previously, the average Bigfoot sighting places the creature at over 8ft tall. The reasonable question here is how such an enormous creature could possibly evade capture by humans. Every year new species are discovered all over the world, but they all have one thing in common: unless they’re in the sea, they are all tiny. When was the last time you heard of a new species of giant elephant being discovered? The point being that if tens of thousands of 8-foot tall, 500 pound ape-men were out there, we’d have found them by now.


7) No Bigfoot Fossils Exist

Simply put, there has never been any fossil record of a large mammal resembling the Sasquatch in North America – despite the same soil preserving everything else that ever lived in the area, including dinosaur bones.

Predictably, Bigfoot enthusiasts have a counter-argument: fossils have been found of one creature dubbed Gigantopithecus Blacki, the fossilized mandible of which is pictured above. This creature, essentially a 10 foot ape that weighed approximately 1,200lb, existed a hundred thousand years ago when it roamed an area in what is now China.

Obvious aesthetic connections could be made between the two creatures – but no Gigantopithecus Blacki fossils have ever been found in America. It seems that something like Bigfoot did once exist, but thousands of miles from where the vast majority of sightings occur.



6) Successful Breeding Is Unlikely

Scientists have established that in order for the existence of Bigfoot to be a zoological possibility, there would have to be tens of thousands of them breeding. But how would such a massive population be able to successfully locate potential mates, if even humans are incapable of finding them?

The idea that sasquatches are being bred in families and are mating successfully with other groups of sasquatches is simply impossible – and yet such a situation must exist for these creatures to continue breeding. Coupled with the fact that almost all alleged Bigfoot photographs and videos show only one creature – implying that they travel alone – the odds of them being able to find each other to mate and produce offspring are small indeed.



5) Misidentification is Widespread


An estimated 80% of supposed Bigfoot evidence can be readily attributed to hoaxes, but that still leaves the other 20%, right? Sure, but it would appear that even these sightings can be put down to misidentification.

A recent study has found that many alleged Bigfoot sightings could easily be American Black Bears walking on their hind legs. The bears stand up to 7 feet tall when walking in this way, and although they don’t share the same characteristics as Bigfoot, for hardcore believers (and those seeking attention) the line between wishful thinking and common sense is conveniently blurred. Amazingly, the photograph shown above was initially displayed as a legitimate piece of Bigfoot evidence, just to illustrate the point.



4) There Were No Sightings Before 1958


Admittedly the title of this entry is somewhat misleading, because there have been sightings (although very few) of “wild men” all over the world, long before the fifties. But many Bigfoot enthusiasts forget that sightings of the cryptid are an entirely modern phenomenon.

In 1958, several gigantic footprints (later shown to be fake) were discovered around the area of Bluff Creek in California. The prints drew significant media attention, and the term Bigfoot was coined in the newspapers. Ever since this event, alleged sightings of the creature have been cropping up all over the place. This is an important point: sasquatches cannot have appeared out of thin air, and if they did exist before the fifties, why weren’t they spotted earlier?



3) Lack of Killings Despite Reward


I’ll begin this entry by mentioning that there is currently a genuine $1,000,000 reward for anyone who can bring back the body of a Sasquatch. Think about that for just a moment. Now consider the the tens of thousands of reported sightings – none of which have resulted in a Bigfoot being shot dead. Once again, the figures simply do not add up.



2) Bigfoot is a Hoaxer’s Paradise


Although this does not directly disprove the existence of Bigfoot, it is important to point out that there are plenty of motives for people to create a hoax. People may simply seek attention, fame or wealth – just like the men who covered an ape suit with a dead squid (pictured above) to try and cash in on that $1,000,000 reward.



1) Lack of Physical Evidence


For a minute, let us imagine that we have had tens of thousands of giant ape-men roaming around North America since the fifties. Surely such creatures would leave us at least one piece of indisputable physical evidence? Alas, we have none at all – no bones, hair samples, blood samples, skin samples, or any DNA evidence of any kind. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/07/01/bigfoot-...

One single hair strand would provide enough DNA to prove a new species existed. Besides, you can forget about DNA evidence for a moment to ask: where are the bodies? Unless sasquatches are immortal, there must be hundreds of Bigfoot remains out there right now. Why hasn’t anyone ever found one? We seem to have found plenty of footprints – but of course, that isn’t physical evidence.

All things considered, it seems that we can safely assume that there are no ape men in North America...unless, of course, you are going to base the argument that there are on the eyewitness sighting of uncle Bubba 25 years ago when he was hunting after an all night drinking binge.


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MizBejabbers 2 years ago

Tsadjatko, you are a real spoil sport. Good grief, your reply is longer than some hubs. Why didn’t you make it into a hub? Kenneth has written a fun hub, we are having an enjoyable discussion, and you want to piss in our Cheerios. Yes, I read it in a book that was based on a tale an Arab allegedly brought back from the land of the Norse. At the time the book was passed around at the museum where I worked, we had fun speculating on whether or not the book had any truth in it. I merely asked Kenneth if he knew the book because I am looking for a copy and can’t remember the title or the people involved.

Kenneth, I did see the tail end of something on the History2 channel that mentioned a primitive hairy people similar to those mentioned in this book, but I didn’t catch the whole thing. You know how they will feature a subject and then bring in different evidence, sometimes no more than 2 or 3 minutes long to support their theory.


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tsadjatko 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

I'll tell you why I didn't make it a hub - 1) it is not original but I referenced the author, 2) it is a colossal waste of time because anyone with common sense should know there is no bigfoot, 3) Bigfoot is just a symptom of a society (people like you and Kenneth I suspect) which is so willing to believe fantasies (like bigfoot) despite the common sense and the facts and this type of obsession has seeped into all aspects of societal values which has given us a society of charlatans who promote legends and in other arenas like politics lies solely to advance their fortunes or their agendas and dupes who will believe anything they hear or see presented by so called "experts" without critical thought of what they see, hear and subscribe to.

A steady diet of your "cheerios" is why we see further dumbing down of society. I take pride in the fact that I don't drink the cool aid nor spend time wondering about obscure books about hairy men to find evidence for a fantasy or ignoring the facts when it is right in front of you. Of course more important to you than the facts I posted here is that your fantasy "fun" isn't pissed on - that says a lot about your world view and what is wrong with many (and after the last election it seems most) Americans today.


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MizBejabbers 2 years ago

What a sourpuss! A person can't be a good writer without an imagination.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

tsadjatko,

What an interesting bale of information. I appreciate you taking the time to lend such widely-researched information on my hub.

I did title this hub, "MY" feelings about Bigfoot. Whether it exists or not, would you agree with ALL and I mean ALL of the ones you called hoaxters are just that hoaxters? Every single one?

That is a huge ratio of people who have nothing to do but fool us.

That is hard for me to digest.

I will concede that there is "something," and yes, some who see these things, whatever they are, might exaggerate a bit, but there have some sightings made by professionals, lab technicians, even skeptics, so let's hold on to our summation until the day when ONE of these beasts is really caught and kept alive for us to see.

Deal?

And MizBejabbers,

I did enjoy our discussion on Bigfoot. Regardless of he or it exists or not, it does make for good conversation.

And thank you for your interesting comment not just here, but on my other hubs.

And I guess by tsadjatko's comments, I should delete my account and hide in a cave, but you know whuutttt? Shaaa, sorreee. Not going to happen.

Will continue to write about things that interest me.

You two have a peaceful day.


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tsadjatko 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

So, despite the fact that there is no concrete evidence of the existence of bigfoot and volumes of factual reasons disproving their possible existence you still wish to "hold on to our summation until the day when ONE of these beasts is really caught and kept alive for us to see." ABSURD

and as I said before a further example of the dumbing down of Americans. How do you get the idea that that there is "a huge ratio of people who have nothing to do but fool us." Ratio to what - the 300 million people that live in the USA - not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the population claim to have seen or evidenced bigfoot - the perverbial "handful of cases" would apply to any "ratio" one could imagine. There have been no credible sightings made by professionals, lab technicians or even skeptics and why you choose to believe that garbage is beyond any rational explanation.

And I suppose, since I have not visited any of your hubpages I'll have to accept YOUR assessment of their value when applying the principles I've pointed out and that you should delete your account appears to be your conclusion based on those facts, not mine, so maybe there is hope for you yet - learn from your mistakes, it's better than living in a cave.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama Author

tsaddjatko,

I am not that irrational as to delete my account, but calling my thinking absurd? That is your right. And I respect your opinion which is probably right anyway, but I humbly ask that you do not try to force me into believing that something does not exist when even you do not have proof that it doesn't as I do that it does.

I am not arguing with you about this. And furthermore, what help for me are you referring to?

And what "if" just by chance, a Sasquatch is captured one day? That is possible and I even asked why one has not been killed or even shot with a tranquilizer?

In an abstract way, I am like you prodding the search of this one beast, for lack of a better word and my only area of dissent is that why are there so many people trying to pull the same hoax?

Money?

I do not know if anyone who has been paid for their story except maybe National Enquirer who would pay for any trash to print.

I am leaving this here.

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