What Is Conversion Therapy And Its Effects

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A note to readers

This article is in no way condoning or encouraging conversion therapy. I have clearly stated the facts based on research.

What is conversion therapy?

Conversion therapy is the administration of psychotherapy or pseudo scientific techniques administered to people of a certain persuasion in order to get them to change. This technique could be considered as brainwashing as well and it is usually administered to people of homosexual persuasion.

This treatment assumes that homosexuality is a mental disorder and that it is possible to change your sexual behavior. The American Psychiatric Association has disassociated itself from such form of therapy and are totally against the practice.

There have been quite a lot of controversy surrounding conversion therapy especially in children. Recently, a California Bill was passed banning the conversion therapy practice especially on minors. Governor Jerry Brown signed it into law on Saturday September 20, 2012.


Where is the proof?

As far as proof that homosexuality is a mental disorder, there is none. During the early 1900s psycho-analysts discussed whether homosexuality was pathological and in the 1920s it was decided that it was, and that it needed to be treated as such.

Even with no evidence that being gay was a mental disorder, treatment of patients proceeded with some cases deemed incurable. Such cases were labeled as homosexual perversion.

Sigmund Freud was one who believed that homosexuality could be cured by hypnotic suggestions. His theory was encouraged by Eugen Steinach, an endocrinologist who did testicular transplants. Implanting the testicles of straight men into those who were gay, believing that the procedure would cure them. This method was a complete failure as the immune system usually rejected the organs.


Is conversion therapy discimination?

It is my personal belief that conversion therapy is discrimination against the homosexual lifestyle. Note that the originators of this kind of psychiatric treatment were all straight men. These psychologists and psychiatrists were also anti gay activists or supporters of anti gay movements.

It was decades after the implementation of such therapy that studies were done to determine whether or not being gay was a genetic disorder or genetic at all. Prior to Freud's theory, no studies were done to give credence to his belief.

Not only is conversion therapy, otherwise known as reparative therapy, immoral but also unsubstantiated. It's like giving shock therapy to someone with mild depression symptoms without proving that they are depressed at all.

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Can Homosexuals change their orientation?

There have been some reports of people changing their sexual orientation through therapy, spiritual awareness and plain old choice.

According the the Family Research Council changing your sexual orientation is possible especially in those with unwanted same-sex attraction, whatever that means. I found this site to be biased in its beliefs and therefore place no value on their so called research.

Robert Spitzer, a psychiatrist, reported that 66% male and 44% female that sought therapy changed their orientation. His study concluded that there must be extenuating circumstances in order to facilitate this change. Such circumstances included:

  • Being in a loving heterosexual relation for at least one year
  • Complete satisfaction in regards to emotional relationship with the partner.
  • Having heterosexual coitus with your partner at least a few times per month
  • Must not think about homosexual sex more than 15% of the time during heterosexual sex
  • Must achieve physical sexual satisfaction with your heterosexual partner



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Spitzer found that the people who did change their orientation were people actively seeking change because they were not getting the emotional satisfaction they needed, religious confusion, being in a heterosexual marriage and wanted to remain there.

His studies were widely criticized as he was linked to anti-gay movements. Gay activists argued that should this study be credible it would undermine their rights for being gay and encourage such unethical methods of change.

In another study published in 2002, Ariel Shidlo and Michael Schroeder found that of 150 volunteers, 88% did not change their orientation and only 3% achieved sustained change to heterosexual lifestyle. The remaining 9% reported that they lost all their sex drive and wanted to remain celibate, this of course due to the course of therapy undertaken.

It was also reported that many of the people in the study suffered depression, attempted suicide, poor self esteem and many other psychological factors because of this kind of therapy. This is the total opposite of what Spitzer reported as he stated that no harm was done to his group.

So the controversy still remains as to whether or not homosexuals can change their orientation. Further to that is whether or not they can change with no psychological effect.


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Contrary to popular belief

This is based on my own personal experience with persons I know who are of the homosexual persuasion. I cannot speak for all gay people.

  • People who prefer people of the same sex are human beings like you and me
  • They are some of the most talented and intelligent people I know
  • They are caring and loving, sensitive to animals and absolutely adore children
  • They care deeper than the average person
  • When they like you you have a best friend for life

What if?

God made some people heterosexuals and some people homosexuals for a reason? Can we stop looking at homosexuality as a disease and see it as just the way it is? When will people stop over-analyzing sexuality?

I say, what is the big deal about sexuality be it be homo or hetero? Why are we more concerned about who is having sex with whom more than about each other's welfare? Aren't we more concerned about whether or not someone is "okay" in life? We pass people everyday who need a shoulder to lean on, they need shelter, a meal, emotional support and we don't even care. Yet we spend our energies worrying about someone's sexual orientation. When will we see the light?


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RavenBiker 4 years ago from Pittsburgh, PA.

Hi Cardisa, thanks for writing this hub with the compassion you obviously feel. Your bullet points may be your perception but gay people are just people. They are as rotten or as good as any random heterosexual. But I believe the point you were trying to make is that the hangups heterosexuals have about anything homosexual is unfounded and even ludicrous. Thanks for that but please check your spelling.


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Kate Mc Bride 4 years ago from Donegal Ireland

This hub gives a very balanced view of the two sides of the argument in this controversial topic and is very well-researched. Thanks for sharing it.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hello Raven Biker, thank you so much. Yes you are right, that was the exact point I was trying to make. Will check spelling again....gosh I double checked but sometimes miss a few. Thanks again.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hi Kate, I wanted to write about what I have researched. I really tried hard to keep my personal opinion out of it but out of respect for people had to give my two cents too. Thanks for reading and commenting.


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WritingPrompts 4 years ago from The Garden of Eugene (Oregon)

I don't think anyone is born one way or the other - so I suppose conversion is probably possible, in either direction. I think that is why straight people are often so anti-gay, because deep down they feel that they could go that way as well, and it scares them.

What pushes us in one direction or another is probably in our environment and some of those experiences can be very traumatic and not as simple to overcome as just meeting the right person or completing a few hours of therapy. That probably applies to both those who are strongly hetro as well as homo sexual.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hello Writing Prompts, thank you for stopping by.

I am not sure about being born gay but rather born to be gay. I think I was meant to be heterosexual and that's what I am. If you are born to become 6 feet tall then you will become just that. What I am saying is that maybe we are all born for a purpose and being gay might be one of them.


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RavenBiker 4 years ago from Pittsburgh, PA.

Interesting reasoning Cardisa but what is the difference really? The genetic disposition to be six feet tall certainly exists but if that six foot potential is not nurtured with the proper diet while growing up, will the person still become six feet tall? We certainly can't say that being gay is precisely genetic but does the disposotion to be gay exist? If so, isn't it fair to ask if the disposition to be gay exsists for everyone? How is it that in some families, there are more gay persons whereas in others, a gay person simply does not exist?

These are questions that sometimes defies any kind of reasoning so some people either pass being gay simply as a choice or "it just is the way I am." However, we can only be comfortable with saying we do not know what sexuality precisely is let alone how it actually forms. Why can't we simply be comfortable with ourselves and leave those who are different to be just different?


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always exploring 4 years ago from Southern Illinois

Cardisa, Your article is interesting and well written. There are those who refuse to believe that homosexuality is not a choice. Why can't we just accept the fact that they are different in their sexual preference. Why would anybody choose this when they are hated so badly by some?


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hello Raven Biker, I guess my analogy is a bit confusing when you look at it from that perspective. All I mean to say is that we can't really define the reason yet that is just the way it is. I strongly believe that everything has a purpose and everyone was created by God for a purpose on earth and whether you are gay or straight it is nobody's business.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hi Ruby, I really can't understand all the drama about sexual orientation. I always say that same as how I am naturally attracted to the opposite sex, then it's the same with homosexuals, they are naturally attracted to the same sex.


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WritingPrompts 4 years ago from The Garden of Eugene (Oregon)

@RavenBiker - I know a girl who was supposed to be 6 foot tall but developed anorexia - now she's "full-grown" but only 5'. Things can happen that change what you were "meant to be" genetically.

@Cardisa - I like your perspective that everyone has a purpose, it can be hard to believe when you are "different", especially when people hate you for that difference.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Thanks Writing Prompts. Your are right. It's unfortunate that we are hated for being different. I said we because I am hate by some people because I black. Homosexuals are hated and reviled because of their sexual preferences. We need to take a look at ourselves and realize we are all different to each other but that doesn't give us the right to hate each other.


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Trish303 4 years ago from Springfield, MO

Wonderful hub. Voted up. And know I do not believe they can. They can lie to them self and say they are no long like the same sex, but i do believe that they where born that way. It is a shame that people can't see though it. Some of my best friends are gay and I love them very much, and besides what they do in there bedroom, and who they choose to be with has no a fact on life whatsoever $6.

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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Thank you Trish303, I toally agree with you. I say what's the big deal with trying to change homosexuals. Shouldn't we be trying to fix pedohiles, rapists and serial killers? Why aren't we more concerned about the scum of society that damage our children and women?


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Michael Tully 4 years ago

You have presented a well-considered, balanced, and thought-provoking overview of the question of the effectiveness of conversion therapy on homosexuals. My own view is that generalizations about virtually any subject, including homosexuality, are dangerous. I'm sure that in some cases there is a genetic predisposition toward homosexuality, and that in these cases conversion therapy would be ineffective, and may in fact do harm to the patient. In other cases, homosexuality may be a symptom or manifestation of a deeper psychological or psychiatric issue and may be reversible with conversion therapy. But just because conversion therapy might have a good prognosis for success does not necessarily mean that it is always the best course of treatment. These questions must be decided by competent professionals on a case-by-case basis.

For these reasons I would suggest that blanket prohibitions of conversion therapy, such as that recently enacted in California, are bad public policy. I'd also suggest that conversion therapy for reasons other than to restore the patient's mental health or emotional well-being (such as, for example, religious preference) is also a bad idea.

Well done, Cardisa. Voted up and interesting. Peace be with you.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hello Michael. You raise some good points. My concern is that, initially there was no real or concrete basis for conversion therapy. It was just an idea thought of by a psychiatrist who was anti gay. His theory was only based on the fact that he was repulsed by gay people and wanted to do something about it. Hence reparative therapy is still unjustified since there have been no concrete evidence that it does work in the homosexual's favor.


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eHealer 4 years ago from Las Vegas

Cardisa, fantastic hub and very thoughtfully done! Sexuality is an extremely primal instinct that is "hard-wired," and not a choice. Human sexuality is a kind of mysterious result of different switches in the brain that are just switched on or off with many contributing factors. No one could alter my heterosexuality, no matter what anyone exposed me too. It is cast in stone, it is hard wired, it is my mental mind set. People should be allowed to love anyone they want, as long as it is consensual, it is none of anyone's business. We should not vote on creating laws (in legislation) that are more of a matter of "taste" and the constitution protects the civil rights of everyone. Being able to love the person you want and live the lifestyle you wish is a civil right. Great Hub!


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

eHealer, you are mirroring my sentiments exactly. I totally, absolutely agree with every word. I really can't see what the deal or obsession with homosexuality is.


mindandmatter 4 years ago

"Conversion therapy is the administration of psychotherapy or pseudo scientific techniques administered to people of a certain persuasion in order to get them to change. "

What makes you think that "conversion therapy" is always forced upon people? What if the patient has a genuine need to change. I see a problem with the definition. If it is forced, its wrong. But if someone wishes to change they should be helped.

I support gays. But I also supports homosexual individuals who wants to change. They are often being ignored by the LGBT community. They are a minority within a minority?

Why is gay identity so fragile that it doesn't want to accept the fact that some may not want to embrace the gay identity?

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"This treatment assumes that homosexuality is a mental disorder and that it is possible to change their sexual behavior. "

Is that so? I don't think so. This is a generalization. This is something an ethical psychologists would never do. It is not up to you or the therapist to decide. If the patient is not happy with their sexual orientation, therapist should not try to convince him/her otherwise.

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People who prefer people of the same sex are human beings like you and me

They are some of the most talented and intelligent people I know

They are caring and loving, sensitive to animals and absolutely adore children

They care deeper than the average person

When they like you you have a best friend for life

--All the above facts are true. But it has nothing to do with being gay or straight.

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"I say, what is the big deal about sexuality be it be homo or hetero? Why are we more concerned about who has sex with whom than about each other's welfare? Aren't we more concerned about whether or not someone is "okay" in life? We pass people everyday who need a shoulder to lean on, they need shelter, a meal, emotional support and we don't even care. Yet we spend our energies worrying about someone's sexual orientation. When will we see the light? "

I find the final para of your article extremely ironical and hypocritical. Throughout your article you have denied the right of homosexuals who doesn't want to be gay. Why should not they have the right to change?? Should not they have a shoulder to lean on? Is it ethical/moral/sensitive to force them to embrace the gay identity?


mindandmatter 4 years ago

There are several issues with your essay.

Quote - "Conversion therapy is the administration of psychotherapy or pseudo scientific techniques administered to people of a certain persuasion in order to get them to change. "

Not all therapists user pseudo scientific techniques to help people with unwanted same sex attractions. An ethical therapists would not try to force an individual to change their orientation not they would coerce them to embrace the gay identity. The choice of therapy is up to the patient. Its not up to me, you, the APA, gov or the therapist to decide.


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Eiddwen 4 years ago from Wales

Interesting and leaving much food for thought.

Eddy.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Mindandmatter, while I understand that you do not like my hub you are yet to offer a valid counterpoint here. Your statements leave no room for a rebuttal as I cannot evaluate your reasoning.

Can I make a suggestion? Why don't you write a hub about your point instead of clogging my comments? It would get you in the door of starting off your writing here on Hubpages. You have no hubs for me to evaluate and that is quite unfortunate as I would really like to get to know you as a writer.

Have a nice day.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Thank you Eddy, have a great day.


mindandmatter 4 years ago

Thanks for the suggestion Cardisa. I will do that.

But I would still appreciate if you can reply to my comment.

Thanks


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Mindandmatter, as I said before. I cannot understand your point. I think my views are clear. If you noticed my research gave more than one point of view on the subject. Then I gave my personal point of view. In no way did I indicate that gays cannot change or that they were forced to change as you put it. My personal point of view is that this kind of therapy was created by someone who was anti-gay and that leaves room for review. I also said, on a personal note, why bother spending our energies on someone's sexual orientation when we could be doing something else to rid society of pedophiles, psychopaths and such like. That's all I am saying.


mindandmatter 4 years ago

I agree with you. Psychologists/psychiatrists used to categorize homosexuality as a mental disorder. Still some traditional psychologists think so. They used harmful techniques like aversion therapies, shock therapy to convert people in to heterosexuals. That is wrong.

But modern, educated, ethical psychologists do not use such outdated therapies in helping individuals to come in to terms with their conflicts.

One other harm of banning "conversion" therapy is that people will find occult, alternative ways to change sexual orientations. People will end up being even more depressed by trying to "pray the gay away". I read an article about a man employing exorcism to rid his daughter from lesbian feelings.

Pedophilia is also a sexual orientation. They do not choose to be pedophiles. Their sexual feelings are very strong. So we, specially gays who are used to discrimination must look at pedophiles with sympathy. They are also human beings. Not all pedophiles are harmful to the society. They also need a shoulder to cry on.


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kittythedreamer 4 years ago from the Ether

Loved it and I agree with you 200%! Voted up, awesome, and beautiful.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Thank you Kittythedreamer, I really appreciate the support.


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justateacher 4 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

Mindandmatter..."pedophilia is also a sexual orientation" and "must look at pedophiles with sympathy" Really?? Someone who is gay generally does not want to hurt another person...loving someone who is the same sex is not harmful to either party involved...gay people are not out to harm anyone else...pedophiles on the other hand want to harm children...and often harm many children before they are caught...a pedophile's urge to have sex with children may be a"sexual orientation" but his/her sexual orientation is harmful to every child around...using your logic, murderers are just born that way so we should have sympathy for them...

Cardisa...wonderful article...you made very good points and researched this very well..love they you put your two cents in as well! Voted up!


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Justateacher, thank you sooooooo much! I was too speechless and dumbfounded by Mindandmatter's comment to reply...lol. I wanted to really do some research about pedophilai before saying anything. Sooooo glad you were not scored to do that. Thank you.


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Appsthatpayyou 4 years ago from London

A really interesting hub, this has so much importance to people and also to the wider church.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Thank you Appsthatpayyou, I hope the church sees it and realize that it's non of their business to try to change people's sexual preferences.


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Lil Miss Reader 4 years ago from Somerset New Jersey

Thank you so much for this hub. When I first began reading I thought it was going to be push for trying to change peoples sexuality. However I was interested in the information you had. When I read your final part I was happy. Happy to know that I am not alone in thinking someones sexuality isn't as important as their well being. Kudos to you for being so SMART and for writing this hub. Thank you!


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Thank you Lil Miss Reader, I am glad that what I wrote was clear. After reading a couple comments by another reader I was worried that my views were not clear enough. Have a good day.


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Electro-Denizen 4 years ago from Wales, UK

Thoughtful hub, had to read it. I conclude pretty much what you conclude.... It's kind of weird that we still live in a society where it's a big deal, well, for some. There are real problems in the world to sort out, instead of worrying about this.

Obviously if someone feels very uncomfortable with their feelings and want to get to understand where it's all coming from, healing and therapy might shed some light, and possibly even change the direction of attraction, but if someone doesn't feel uncomfortable with it, who am I to judge. It does annoy me how some Christians are so anti-gay. I saw a minister once, his face full of hate on TV over it, then I thought of the gentle love that a same sex couple might have, and thought, no-brainer here. Go for love any time!

In fact, I find it supremely ironic, that the deepest yoga, or deepest spiritual connection, by its very nature requires a perfect balance of male/female energies and thus being androgynous, deep down. I don't know whether certain people actually think they'll go to heaven with sex organs intact!

Ultimately, it's entirely irrelevant.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hello Electro-Denizen, what a refreshing comment. I totally agree with everything you said. I really can't see the big deal and the world does have bigger problems. Thank you so much for your wonderful comment. Have a great day.


NAK 4 years ago

I know that you are trying to prove a point about treating homosexuals with respect, as like any other person, I agree with you on that.

But saying that all gay people love animals and children is just painfully hilarious. It's like saying all gay people love opera. Pigeonholing them.

How about gay people are just people -- you know, all different? They don't all act, like/hate the same things, etc.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

NAK, I did not say that all gay people love animals and children. I said the gay people I KNEW, loved animals and children. IN no way can I speak for all gays.


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blondey 4 years ago

Some people try to pull the trap that believing in God is mental illness while they would love you to worship *them* LOL


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epigramman 4 years ago

...a very interesting hub subject my ravishing Carolee and so well put together with your usual high standards. Did you know that I was 'one' myself BEFORE I MET AND SAW YOU then I changed into a heterosexual once and for all - I finally saw the light thanks to you dear friend - still bombastic and still hanging out at lake erie time 8:29am and sending you warm wishes


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Epigramman, you are such a tease...lol and that's why I love you. Thank you for always supporting me even on serious subjects as these.

Hugs~~


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justateacher 4 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

Cardisa - You wrote a very good article that was clear and concise. Mindandmatter seemed as if he/she was being overly critical and nitpicky...I couldn't let his comment slide!


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hello Justateacher, thank you. I couldn't understand what I didn't make clear. I gave objective overview of the subject then I gave my own personal opinion. Thanks for the support.


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Sorry Mindandmatter, don't like links in my comments.


mindandmatter 4 years ago

Why did you delete my comments? Is it because I didn't praise you like others have done here on your hub?

Very typical of gay activist to gag the voices of people with different views. Where is the so called diversity and equality, non-discrimination of yours? Or are you afraid of the ugly truth?


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Are you blind? Where is it that you see I have deleted your comments. Other hubbers too have replied to your comments. Please don't leave a comment on my hub unless it's in a friendly tone and for your information I don't always agree with what I read and don't expect others to always agree with me either. But if you are going to be disrespectful than please don't bother commenting.

Thank you.


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justateacher 4 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

mindandmatter - I still see your comments...just not your point...Cardisa has been kind to you and has kindly asked you to be nice - seems simple enough. If you don't agree with her, write your point of view and defend it - again - seems simple enough...


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justateacher 4 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

mindandmatter - you have been here at hubpages for three months and have yet to write anything...are you here just to be mean to people? If that is so, please find another place to do that...


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Thank you Justateacher :))


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justateacher 4 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

You're welcome Cardisa - went to his home page to see what he had to share, only to discover he has written nothing...guess he's only looking for ideas....keep writing!


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

I did that when he/she first commented on my hub, that's why I suggested he/she write a rebuttal hub since his/her comment was so long and seem to have a lot to say about the matter. Seems to me that he/she only join HP to read and make comments. I would really hate to have to turn off my comments because a hubber is rude.

Thanks.... :))


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jonnycomelately 4 years ago from Tasmania

Michael Tully, you wrote "These questions must be decided by competent professionals on a case-by-case basis." There is a real danger if the so-called competent professional has a personal, religious or academic bias against people who are homosexual. If that "professional's" bias leads to his/her patient committing suicide as a result of treatment received, then the "professional" could be in deep legal trouble.


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jonnycomelately 4 years ago from Tasmania

Cardisa, very interesting hub, thank you.

Speaking now from a very personal point of view, there is lots more to consider about a person's orientation sexually.

Most of us have a need/desire for intimacy, closeness, affection, sharing of joys and difficulties with another person. The gender of that other person is totally irrelevant, not the business of anyone else.

I do not hear anyone addressing other possible psychological pressures which might get in the way of us having that loving and intimate relationship which we so desire.

In relation to my own life, which has been 70 long years of deep loneliness, I am looking into Asperger's Syndrome. The way others have described their experiences their words ring so, so true for me.

If the christian anti- brigade could just warm to the needs of people like me, without pushing the biblical band-wagon, then I would have a lot more people to share my feelings with.

As it stands now, I would never go to a christian for help! - for fear of being brainwashed!


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Cardisa 4 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hello Jonnycomelately,

I am in total agreement wit you there about those so called competent professional being legally liable for psychological harm to their patients.

I know next to nothing about Aspergers and I would love to learn more. I really hope you find answer you are seeking.

I was badly hurt by my church and I could never really go there for help again so I do understand what you mean. I also know that some Christians are more concerned about what they feel is moral than the actual welfare of others.

Take care and thanks for stopping by.


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savvydating 3 years ago

I appreciate the research you put into this article. Indeed, according to New Scientists, the same sex wiring occurs in the womb; gay men's brains are wired similarly to heterosexual women's brains, thus the same sex attraction.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-br...

Consequently, I do not believe for one moment that gays can "change" nor do I think they need to. They were formed that way in the womb and they deserve to stay that way and be respected for their same sex attraction. After all, God and nature formed them that way.

Up, useful, interesting.


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Cardisa 3 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hi Savvydating. So the research basically states that gay men and heterosexual women are wired to be attracted to men. Are gay women and heterosexual men wired the same way?

Thanks for reading and commenting. Have a great weekend.


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savvydating 3 years ago

Yes, gay women are wired the same. Thus, they have similar wiring to that of a heterosexual male. I should have stated All gays. A reference the article includes as to why this occurs is from: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, in which science is determining that same sex attraction may have something to do with too high or too low testosterone. Also, some speculate whether being gay is inherited. When I get arguments from Christians (I am Christian) I always recommend the book "Torn" by Justin Lee... or religioustolerance.org

I appreciate your question.


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blondey 3 years ago

Hey Cardisa,

Just saw this again. No one should convert anyone...just accept people as they are...easier said than done???

hhmmmm


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Cardisa 3 years ago from Jamaica Author

Hi Beautiful, yes you are right, but I don't see the difficulty in that. We should stop placing so much emphasis on sexuality.

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