Is your man a real Peter Pan?

Just idly chatting, as you do...

Sitting with a friend in her garden idly chatting, as you do, we were talking about some of the men we know.  Their good points, bad points, relationships and so on.  Typical Saturday afternoon 'glass of wine in the garden' chatter.  We were having this good old chinwag about one particular man and why he doesn't seem to be involved in any relationship, ever.  After sipping more wine, it suddenly came to us that this man is just like Peter Pan.  We thought about it, had more wine, and found that in our pasts we had accidentally stumbled upon many Peter Pans.  Some were our best friends, and others, we had hoped would be more than that but it had never ever developed that way.  Another bottle of wine, and we were ready to discuss the implications of trying to get involved with a Peter Pan, and its effect on our sanity.

Being overprotective parents can cause your child to grow up and have Peter Pan Syndrome
Being overprotective parents can cause your child to grow up and have Peter Pan Syndrome
Overreaction is supposedly a sign of Peter Pan Syndrome
Overreaction is supposedly a sign of Peter Pan Syndrome
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Peter Pan Syndrome

The amazing thing, is that when I got home and blurrily focused my alcohol-glazed eyes on the computer screen, I found out that we did not invent this whole Peter Pan thing. Some bloody twit got there before us. So we didn't stumble on a new phenomena never previously thought of. Here we were celebrating our discovery with another bottle of wine, and it had already been discovered and written about. In 1983, to be precise, by a man called Dan Kiley. The book was called, strangely enough, The Peter Pan Syndrome. Now, how a man can write a book about a very male syndrome, I don't know.

When I read about the Peter Pan Syndrome, I disagreed with the findings. The men I know who are like Peter Pans are not like this at all. Dan Kiley said that men with Peter Pan Syndrome show the following psychological traits:

  • their emotions become paralysed or are exaggerated
  • they can't just experience joy, they have to be hysterically happy
  • they can't just feel angry, it had to be a mad murderous rage
  • they can't just be disappointed, it has to be a huge deep dark depression.

Now, the men I know who are like Peter Pans are nothing like that at all. That to me sounds more like old Danny boy is describing sociopaths. And when I looked further into what he said, it made me really think he was giving the wrong name to this syndrome. I actually felt angry he had used Peter Pan incorrectly! When old Dan the Man spoke about how Peter Pan Syndrome sufferers dealt with relationships, this is what he said:

Males diagnosed with this syndrome

  • Find it hard to show their love and express their feelings
  • Lose touch with their emotions and have no idea what they feel
  • Procrastinate and put off making a commitment
  • Feel guilty and blame others for everything
  • Have difficulty in relaxing and are always tense
  • Have no real connection with friends. Believes friends can only be bought
  • Easily panics and feels desperately alone in their attempts to belong
  • Alcohol or drug abuse is used to get high in order to drown out the existence of daily life challenges
  • Have a problem with their mother
  • Don't get on with the Dad and probably not even talking to them
  • They believe their parents don't love them and never approve of what they do
  • Have problems with authority figures
  • Tend to be emotionally immature and exhibit silly behavior
  • Have a macho attitude that hides their deep inner insecurities in attempts to hide the fear of rejection
  • Become extremely jealous and exhibit violent outbursts
  • Become easily provoked to fits of rage when a woman asserts any independence

The types of men we were discussing who we thought were like Peter Pan were nothing like that! Peter Pans are loveable which is part of their attraction. The man he is decsribing is just a dickhead!

Wendy Syndrome

Danny boy did interestingly also come up with Wendy Syndrome as he reckoned every Peter Pan needed a Wendy.  Now, with this part I do think he hit the nail on the head.  A woman with Wendy Syndrome is the responsible person behind every Peter Pan, his mother figure or the woman who 'mothers' him and helps him to deal with all the things in the world he doesn't like.  I can see myself as a person who suffers from Wendy Syndrome.

Which one are you?

  • Peter Pan
  • Wendy
  • Tinkerbell
  • Lost Boy
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There women who also never grow up like Peter Pan.
There women who also never grow up like Peter Pan.
Daryl Hannah in her young and beautiful days.
Daryl Hannah in her young and beautiful days.
Daryl Hannah after plastic surgery to recapture her youth.
Daryl Hannah after plastic surgery to recapture her youth.
Tinkerbell
Tinkerbell

Peter Pan is a real man

While I think both women and men can be a little Peter-Pannish, it is mostly men. You do get women who wear mini-skirts when they're sixty and try to look young by having plastic surgery and are absolutely obsessed with their looks. They tell you some rapper is their favourite to impress you with how young at heart they are, but in reality they listen to Max Bygraves or Nat King Cole. But, it's mostly the Hollywood types, I reckon. Personally, I've never met a real woman who has had plastic surgery to make them look twenty when they are seventy, however, I have met women who try and act like young teenage girls when they are in the thirty to sixty year old bracket, and it does come across as pathetic and desperate. Oh well, to each his own.

So, back to these men and what we think identifies a man with Peter Pan Syndrome. I have to say, I find these men very likeable and easy to love. However, loving one of these men could make you a little like poor Tinkerbell. No matter what you do, how much you give, how hot you look, like Tinkerbell, Peter Pan will always only look on you as a best friend and will never commit to a full on relationship with you. They are commitmentphobic at heart because committing is something adults do and they don't really want to go that route. Not all Peter Pans display all the symptoms or traits I've listed here. If you are with a man that seems to avoid taking the next step and making that final commitment to you, you could be wasting your time with them. I guess, it depends on what you want out of life. If you are happy to be a Wendy, or a Tinkerbell, then there isn't a problem.

Peter Pans:

  • like playing xbox360, Nintendo Wii, Playstation 3 even though they are over thirty
  • buy all the gadgets available and collect them as little boys collect Pokémon cards
  • have a group of guys they hang out with doing sports, clubs, pubs, etc
  • have a woman or women as their best friend(s) and confidante
  • are a little obsessed with their looks and try and dress younger than what they are
  • listen to 'young' music that doesn't fit with their age
  • will drop their partner for younger model
  • thinks a flash car makes them look younger
  • will lead a woman on and when the woman thinks there is a relationship, will pull back
  • is quite competitive amongst other Peter Pans
  • often has some kind of an addiction problem
  • even if they are in a satisfying relationship, will continue looking and chatting to other women on the internet as this makes them feel young
  • might have had an overprotective mother, parents or been the only boy in a family of women
  • often react to arguments with immature comments or behaviour
  • don't like taking responsibility for anything.  Nothing is their fault.
  • don't like having serious discussions, especially about the future, as they live for the here and now.
  • can't understand why you want to stop having fun and behave in a more adult fashion.
  • make great dads as they are on the same level as their kids
  • turn all conversations to them.  They are very 'me' or 'look at me' type people
  • are great to hang out with as a friend
  • love the TV remote more than they love you
  • change their women faster than you change your underwear
  • change their interests faster than they change their women, following every new fad that comes along.
  • freak out when they spot a grey hair on their head or if they start to go bald
  • need constant reassurance about how good or young they look for their age

Peter Pan is a real man, not a fictional character.  He is a man who doesn't want to grow up and might still try some of his behaviours his mom told him were cute when he was little, to try and get out of trouble.  Some women aid and abet this behaviour by 'mothering' Peter Pan.  These are the Wendys.  Some women do all kinds of things to try and make Peter Pan commit to them, but he never will.  These are the Tinkerbells.  He prefers to hang out with his mates, the 'Lost Boys' and run to Wendy when he needs help.  For him, Tinkerbell is just a 'gadget', a 'plaything.'  Is your man, a real Peter Pan?



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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

I have my peter pan moments but thats all they are. you have to think you're young still sometimes but you definitely have to know your reality.... and the kids have worn me out too much to party past dawn anymore.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

lol Toady, I think most of us have Peter Pan moments and that is okay. But as you said, you have to know your reality and some people just don't get that they are getting older and some of the things they try to do to stop the aging process are sometimes quite pathetic and makes them look foolish and become a laughing stock. I've been involved with a man who thought that if he kept getting a younger woman on the side, would keep him young. His son was more mature than him!


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Christoph Reilly 7 years ago from St. Louis

With such a huge list, everyone would qualify on some of the things some of the times. I like the sound of that "changing women" though. How does one go about doing that?


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Laughing Mom 7 years ago

Nope. He's not suffering from Peter Pan syndrome, but if you could help me figure out what his is called, I'd be eternally grateful.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Hey Christoph, yep we all have some Peter Pan in us on the odd occasion, I guess it's if you have many of the traits on that list all the time.  Just had an idea.  I think we can make some money.  How about we open up a partner library in each major centre.  When you tire of the old, you just go to the library and take out a new one like you do a book?  Or, is that what one of those introduction places is all about?

LM, maybe his is more Spoilt Brat Syndrome or he has a temporary dose of fullofshitalitis.


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Laughing Mom 7 years ago

Or perhaps a combination of them both. Is that 'Spoiltshitalits Syndrome'?


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

lol LM, you have just given me an idea. Watch this space hahahaha


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Laughing Mom 7 years ago

If you need a model for your subject, I'll send him right over.


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Feline Prophet 7 years ago from India

Cindy did you just describe all men there? :P

(The 'after' pic of Darryl Hannah is scary!!)


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Litany Notch 7 years ago from South UK

There is something of the Peter or Wendy in all of us, but the sad thing with Peter Pan men is when they get past 40 and nobody wants to play with them anymore.


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VioletSun 7 years ago from Oregon/ Name: Marie

Cindy: The ideal is to accept that one is growing older, but be a kid at heart, this gives one emotional health, methinks. Folks that are too serious or at the other end, very afraid of getting older are the one's that end up doing crazy things such as wearing a mini skirt at age 80 and thinking they look chic. :)

I agree with Feline Phrophet Darryl Hannah's after pic is kinda scary, she is a good reminder that its best to age naturally.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

LM, just used my imagination and did a whole hub on Fullashitalitis!

FP and Violet, I was horrified when I saw that pic of Daryl!

Litany, you are right, after 40 people don't want to put up with the little childish games!


ralwus 7 years ago

I hate that pic of Daryl! Hey, I still have lots of kids and a few adults that come to my backyard for fun. I have many playmates to have games with, from 6 to 70. I just put up two geat rope swings high from two trees with my fishing rod as we were fishing for birds. Today my best bud is coming over to play with me and my chainsaw and chipper and we will have a wiener roast with marshmallows too. But I ain't no Peter Pan!


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Of course you're not a Peter Pan, CC! You're just a lovely guy who knows how to have fun with people of all ages. Now, if you were still single, could not sustain a relationship and were running after the kids in your garden, I'd be worried!


ralwus 7 years ago

hahaha, I'd be worried too!


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Nanny J.O.A.T. 7 years ago from Somewhere over the rainbow

I loved your descriptions - unfortunately, at one time or another, it has described every male I have ever come in contact with. I'm doomed! (tick tock tick tock) !!!!


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

cc, YOU'RE ONE OF THE GOOD UN'S oops this capslock is pissing me off!

Nanny, we definitely all have these tendencies, but we are able to commit and take responsibility for our actions. Peter Pans can't. Did you manage to get your other drama sorted out girl? The one you wrote that hub on.


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ethel smith 7 years ago from Kingston-Upon-Hull

Might be hubby sometimes :) Good job I am a bit of a Wendy. Fun read


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

I am definitely a bit of a Wendy, Ethel, struggle to keep my mothering under wraps.


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Candie V 7 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

Nice one Cindy, in more ways than one!! LOL!!! Now I'm gonna be singing "I don't wanna grow up..I don't wanna wear a tie.." All freakin' day!  You do get "wendyish", but we loves ya fer it! 


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Triplet Mom 7 years ago from West Coast

Great hub!! I am still trying to figure out what my husband's affliction is.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Thanks for loving me even though I'm Wendyish, Candie?

TM, is your husband one of the Lost Boys?


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frogyfish 7 years ago from Central United States of America

Oh,dear, sounds really famil-ier! Can't say much more, he might be looking over my Wendyish-a-little bit-only-shoulder! Cute, and Thanks for the hub!


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Frogyfish, maybe many men try really hard to disguise their Peter Pan leanings lol


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

It's so sad when you see a man over 40 still wearing green tights!


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Yes MM. especially when their testicles have dropped and are all saggy.


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Eaglekiwi 7 years ago from -Oceania

hope ya dont mind me poppin in ,but saw MM post in the forum ,so sent tk a cyber smack on the head and left..shhh...this is definitely more fun!! ,trust me to land under testicles, oh dear


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Candie V 7 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

Gosh MM/Cindy.. that was just a not so pretty picture!! Are there exercises men can do to help this?


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Kiwi, I apologise that instead of sitting under a kauri tree you are sitting under MM's man's drooping testicles.

Candie, I'm not sure if there are exercises. Maybe they can get a ball lift the same way that women get a boob lift.


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mayhmong 7 years ago from North Carolina

Most of these syndromes are so true with the guys I use to work with. Thought Peter Pan was kinda gay in a way, but now everythings clear up.


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Candie V 7 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

I think the idea of a "nip and tuck" would scare most men to death!!


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Peter Pan is not gay, May, just a commitmentphobe!

Candie, yeah, anything sharp going near their little goolies might scare them.


annvans 7 years ago

Thanks for sharing this information. Great hub!


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Thanks for stopping by and commenting, Ann


Pachuca213 7 years ago

Loved it Cindy!!! Sorry it took so long to read...I was off HP over the weekend and am barely getting to reading the hubs....


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Hey JJ, saw you had disappeared! Hope you had a great weekend!


Am I dead, yet? 7 years ago

xD another great hub! Peter Pan syndrome! I am a gamer and I just burst out laughing when I read your first sentence on the 'Peter Pans' list! To my surprise, there are a lot of awesome gamers over 30. Many of them on the X360 work for Microsoft. I envy their gamer scores...other than that, thanks for the Lolz!!!


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Yeah, some men will rather play games than go shopping with their wives, AIDY! The games for men over 30 are a curse!


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sixtyorso 7 years ago from South Africa

Well Cindy thanks for this hub you have managed to make me feel old for the first time in my life. I don't need to sew my shadow back on,I need to hang on to my soul! LOL excellent hub. I know a few Peter's and Wendy's. I do like the Wendy's they are great for your ego (in the short term).


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

You'd like me then Sixty, as I am a bit of a Wendy!


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Eaglekiwi 7 years ago from -Oceania

Cindy you're 99 yippeee...lets party when ya knock that counter over to 100 !!...

btw...yikes I moved from the sagging balls tree to a lovely juicy peach tree , much nicer to write under lol ...wondering something now , why do guys assume every pretty girl is looking at them? .....last week we were takin a bus downtown ,and a couple of college girls were standing on the corner waving , mere male looks chuffed and waves back right....lmao...they were trying to wave the bus down .....too funny...p.s HB should hand out medals or doughnuts when ya hit a 100,least at school we gotta free pencil or eraser....hehe


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Lol Eagle, but I despair of getting the elusive 100 as I was 99 the whole weekend then dropped to 96. Yeah, men always think it's about them, eh?


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blondepoet 7 years ago from australia

Lol this is so true Cindy omg look at Daryl, what the hell has she done to herself


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Daryl does look a little scary, Blonde, would hate to met up with her in a dark alley!


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Miss Match 7 years ago

Great Hub cindyvine!Love the peter pan analogy.

I knew a 'peter pan' once who prefered tinkerbell to wendy:)


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Thanks for commenting Miss match! Yeah, I'm a Wendy so I always luck out with the Peter Pans!


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Bredavies 7 years ago

Guys with that issue are so ridiculous. That's where the girlfriend who is "mothering" swoops in. Perfect creepy couple.


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cindyvine 7 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

They may be ridiculous, Bredavies, but they are definitely out there and do exist!


Ann 6 years ago

OMG I will leave my boyfriend!!! It's about time otherwise his syndrome will kill me. I have suffered enough!!! He's got all those features all of them. That hurts a lot I wish nobody knew how hard it is to live with a man who has the Peter Pan's syndrome.


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cindyvine 6 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Ann, I take it then that you are a Wendy?


einstein3141879 6 years ago

Right on! Some friends and I had a "brainstorming" session about men over a few bottles of wine. One thing led to another and we started making up rhymes about men and their Peter Pan behaviors. Here's the winner:

Peter Pan was a grown man, but didn't want to be one. He'd rather hang with the "Lost Boys" and have their kind of fun. Now Tinkerbell, they do tell, she was none the stabler. For your see, it was she, who was Peter Pan's enabler.


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cindyvine 6 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Einstein, I just love that rhyme and it's perfect for this hub!


Skye 5 years ago

I have two friends who are Peter Pans. They are both in their 40s, not making very much money, obsessed with comic books, haven't had girlfriends for years (tho very obsessed with the idea of stripper sex), and both even sort of see themselves as future successes in screenwriting and filmmaking (while doing nothing to get there).

There are guys who like video games and comic books and are still adults. Those aren't big deals, really. UNLESS they're taken to the extremes, like my friends do.

They're both basically 17-year-old teenage boys, fantasizing about mindblowing sex and the glory of a glamorous career, sometime in the future. It's pathetic and maddening to listen to them for very long.


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cindyvine 5 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

It is tragic when we see Peter Pan Syndrome taken to the extreme as with your friends, Skye, and all we can do is look on helpless. I wish we could just give them shock therapy or something, to wake them up out of it.


namsew 5 years ago

I'm afraid that I have to chime in here. I am a PPS! Too much of these traits are exactly what my wife has been bitching about for just about all of our married yrs. It will soon be 25! I'm afraid to try and change but I have to start somewhere. or else! My mind is like putty when I come home from work, I have been so used to being Wendied that I can't imagine not being Wendied. I Don't know where to start! Maybe a little input to try and get the ball rolling. I am going to speak to a therapist next week (I hope) I now know this is exactly my issue thx


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cindyvine 5 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Namsew, you are right, you have to change and why don't you start by doing things for your Wendy? She'll be pleasantly surprised and when you get the positive reinforcement from her, it might encourage you to become more independent and start doing more things for her.


Gen 5 years ago

by the looks of all these responses peter Pan is alive and well, and probably lives in a city somewhere :) hanging out with younger males, cos he really doesn't want to accept he is getting older, and soon his youth will be just that Youth. I feel this affliction effects many more men than first believed. Oh and how about when Wendy says to Peter Pan, isn't it about time you accepted getting older, and he literally chucks a tantrum, Wendy says the young ones don't want to be hanging around with a middle aged man who is old enough to be their father. it is a sad sad state of affairs that Wendy wants to look after Peter Pan, but he just doesn't want to grow up, and face the responsibilities of being an adult. Peter Pan will grow up to be a very loney bitter old man.


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cindyvine 5 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Gen, you're spot on!


janellelk 5 years ago

Love it!


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cindyvine 5 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Hey Janellelk, welcome to my hub!


teri 5 years ago

ok I will admit I did not read ALL the comments. . . with that said. I do live with a peter pan. a man who has been on drugs also & when that happens peter pan syndrome is at it's peak. everything that described a peter pan in this. . . is ALL true. yes we are all willing to be young but that's the thing, peter pans are & do act young ALL THE TIME. even on the job, out in public & with family. Cindy vine - you obviously have not lived or loved a peter pan or you would know that what you say. . . is not true. peter pans do commit, however they drive their women insane because wendy can't handle peter pan, she might as well live on her own, she's already doing it all anyways. We Wendy's love men like this cause there is somehting missing in our lives. . . I know from experience. again I live with a peter pan & I've explored myself. When Wendy's turn into The Hook in their lives that's when the relationships usually end. . . you may ask why do I stay then? because he's my boy that I want to see turn into a man someday. These Peter Pans are mentally sick & need help. . . & if I can't do it then no one can & they might as well be dead. THAT is why I stay to see my fruition.


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cindyvine 5 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Teri, they stay with Wendy because they are being looked after, but I'm not sure that's the same as commiting.


petitewendy 5 years ago

Cindy, your last comment is bang on... my Peter Pan is not interested in the boring, responsibilities; he's only intersted in the fun stuff. He has now abandoned my kids and me for the single life. He wears his ripped jeans, his Converse sneakers, and his American Eagle hoodies. He spikes his hair even though it is a lot thinner than when we first met 20 years ago. He's 42 hanging out with kids in their early 20s, is apparently involved with a 23 year old trollop, living in a college rental property and has said the following: "high school were the best years of my life", "I'm the coolest dad on the earth" and "I look better than most 20 year olds". First off, he just lost 20 pounds of beer belly, so he's somewhat slim, but let me tell you, he doesn't have a 20 year body! Secondly, cool doesn't matter anymore because high school is long over. Finally, although he looks younger than 40, he definitely does not look like he's in his 20s. Why would kids in their 20s want to hang out with this old rocker and why would his mama support his behaviour instead of expressing concern? He does have a lot of the characteristics you list above... Cindy, I await your words of wisdom...


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cindyvine 5 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Wendy, this is the hard part knowing what to do next. I firmly believe that you have to let him make a fool of himself and get it out of his system. Trying to persuade him to stay with you and the kids is just going to create tension and resentment. If his mother encourages his behaviour it's because she still sees him as her little boy and maybe she hasn't really grown up either. Unfortunately once the kids he's hanging out with lose interest with him he'll probably try and come back to the safety and security he had with you, but by that time you might have moved on. You need to sit down and work out what do you want in a relationship, write it all down. Does he fulfil those needs? Don't settle for less than you deserve. Good luck!


surferkid04 4 years ago

rubbish for those of you who think they are moments you are having...they are signs that you might be developing the syndrome and this isn't something easily cured. its similar to and other addiction you need to seek the help. If you see these sign run in the other direction or you will get hurt..peters are well at lying and taking advantage of people.


mike 4 years ago

I think - This is the out of touch - lonely female out there that just doesn't get anything about men and never will. The one that is going to nag you about one thing or the other no matter what you do.

Or that guy that looks at his own interests and skill set and compares it to what others are doing to find where they are lacking. All in an effort to bolster his own image. . "You can't be a man if you don't smoke the same cigarettes as me." mentality.

Well I say - if you suck at video games and don't play them - you most likely have a slow mind and bad reflexes.

If you don't play video games - are not part of the video game generation - then you need to shut up. You make yourself sound stupid.

We live in this shallow world where image is everything. Thanks to the sorority house moving into the work place. You are part of that world and we know how fake, disgusting and shallow it is so we choose to just play in our own fake world. One without you people.

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Guys in late 30's grew up with Video Games - guys older did not. Infact - most suck when they try it. Nothing makes you hate something more than if you suck at it. Chicks of most ages fall into this category as well. Guys never had video games before - so what the hell are you comparing this to? What your grandad or dad did? Trust me - they found ways to waste just as much time - they just did it in bars or beating their wives.

Bitches will always find a way to attack men and make them feel like less of a man. I don't need to show examples of that - well known fact.


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cindyvine 4 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Surferkid, I'm not so sure they all lie...

Mike, you sound a tad too defensive hahaha!


Gazer 4 years ago

I thought Peter Pan was something you washed in....


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cindyvine 4 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Gazer, could also be something you cook eggs in!


Amy 4 years ago

I dated this guy on and off for two years. Whenever we'd get to the point of getting closer and moving the relationship forward he'd run away, only to be back in two three weeks. He was in his late 20's now into his 30's and after I finally ended it I started looking at his behavior. He was late twenty's and never had a serious girlfriend that didn't cheat on him. He was still into the partying and living with his mom and dad. (He must have seen something in me because he made a grown up move and bought himself a house (Then after I ended it for good he got upset and tried dumping the house because he never really wanted it.)He still hung out with high school kids which I thought was odd. I had to go get surgery and he never showed up to visit me and his excuse was sick people gross him out; also I was in a serious auto accident and he never showed up at the hospital. And when I got pregnant with HIS kid he flipped and tried blaming it on someone else, he was never there for me and so when I decide to give it up I became the bad guy. I always thought that there was something wrong with me for his actions and why he acted that way. I had a total 180 attitude change and became someone I wasn't. It wasn't until I read this article that I realized there was nothing wrong with me, I had just found a lost boy who needed to be lost again. So thank you for posting this.


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cindyvine 4 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Amy, definitely sounds as if you had a lost boy there! There is nothing wrong with you, you did well to last as long as you did!


fedup 4 years ago

I feel like telling my boyfriend that Neverland is now accepting applications just to see if he'll even get the joke. He is such a Peter Pan! He is going to be 26 soon and he has never had a job, doesn't have his license, still lives at home with his dad. His parents are divorced but he is still in contact with both ALL the time. We live 700 miles apart and guess who is the one who has to go and see the other? ME! I have to drive or fly to see him. I've asked him to come see me and he acts so scared to. I'm the one sacraficing my job every time I want to see him, sacraficing my life DRIVING ten hours alone to see him. The last time I did go there my car broke down and I ended up having to junk it! Had to buy a new-used car! We've been friends for 12 years (been together officially six of those 12) and he never wants to talk about marriage. PETER PAN!!!


fedup 4 years ago

P.S. I forgot to mention, 'my' Peter Pan does have an addiction (drugs), plays computer games all day long and oh yes I forgot to mention, never finished High School but still wants his diploma and thinks it's fine to just go back to high school instead of going to adult school or getting his GED (which I take it that he wants to be around younger kids). Long story short, if you know a Peter Pan, RUN! don't WALK! the other way lol


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cindyvine 4 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Fedup, from an outsider's point of view, your man is not committed to your relationship and the long distance thing ain't working!


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hhunterr 4 years ago from Highway 24

I HAD to use you for a link to my view on The Pan. Thanx! Nice to read a positive statement on Peter.


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cindyvine 4 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Thanks Hhunterr!


nour 4 years ago

love petr pan


cool 4 years ago

great article


Paul Pan? 4 years ago

Hmm, reading this, I can't tell where I fall in the eyes of women, but I am starting to wonder. I don't think that would I fit the PPS build in that I have been working since 16. Graduated college with an engineering degree and have since worked overseas and in the US working my way up to senior level positions. Now at 34, I am halfway through a well regarded masters program (again in engineering) while still working. I have never had to depend on anyone financially after college, and am even providing financial support to my underemployed parents (whom I do not live with). I am not huge at maintaining good looks or dressing young, but at the bit risk of sounding vain, I regularly get compliments on my looks and physical build from a good deal of women.

But...I do definitely tread in geek/nerd circles (playstation, sci-fi/fantasy movies, and a healthy tolerance for gadgets), and less the sports jock/manly man. I am a bit of your head-in-the clouds dreamer. Despite being shy, I appear very sociable and I've dated a number of women, but have never really been a long term committed relationship after high school. I'll admit my apprehension is probably for fear of rejection, and not meeting up to some standard I believe that women have.

In short, I am highly independent and responsible, but at times slightly embarrassed about my interests and dating record. So I am wondering if that falls into PPS territory. And really, what is the opposite of PPS?


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cindyvine 4 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Thanks Cool and Nour.

Paul Pan, that's a good question. What would be the opposite of PPS? Hmmm have to think about that!


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Denise Handlon 4 years ago from North Carolina

I'm such a Wendy! LOL Enjoyed the hub and 'OOOoooooo' what's with Daryl Hannah! ugh!


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cindyvine 4 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Denise I agree, Daryl went way too far. Have you see Ryan O.Neal and Mickey Rouke recently? They look just as bad!


chavez 4 years ago

do you believe there are such as fairy and peter pan ?


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cindyvine 4 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine Author

Why not?


Peter pan 3 years ago

he need help.. he has all the symptoms listed above

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