Why I think atheists are good for the Church

Romans 8:38-39

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John 17:11-12

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

1 Corinthians 18:18-19

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

I like atheists because they shake out the double minded in the churches, they loosen those who never really had a true faith, secured by a Holy Spirit encounter, and bring them to reality.

They force believers to examine their faith and determine whether it is sufficient for the salvation they desired when they first committed to Christianity.

I was fortunate to have entered the faith as a defector from the other team, so for me there was never any prevarication or doubt.

My main concern was to get the demons my activities had attracted off my back (so the speak) and that's why I went looking for a church which may be able to do that.

I found a body of believers who could do the introduction I needed to be set free from my captors, and was introduced to Christ.

So from the day that I truly accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Master I had no doubts. Note I said from the day, and be aware that this was not the day I made my sinners prayer with the pastor who took my surrender, it was later, when I had realised the enormity of what I had done, when Satan's little demons had been busy telling me that I could not escape, and when I finally cried out to Christ for protection, knowing full well that from that point in time onward I no longer owned myself, but was a bond slave to Christ. The choice was definitive, belong to Satan or belong to Christ.

It has not changed since Christ walked the earth.

Once past that point, I had no more concerns...

You see my bible tells me that NOTHING can separate me from the LOVE of God.

It also tells me that my Lord and Master has NEVER LOST even one of those given to Him, except Judas, who had a specific role to play in any case.

So knowing these things, I need fear nothing and need not worry about the slings and arrows that Satan sends to test our defenses.

He that is in me is stronger than he that against me.

When Richard Dawkins posed with 'his' bus, the atheists knew they had to put the word PROBABLY into the advertisement, because the Advertising Standards Authority and London Transport Advertising would both have asked them for proof of any statement they wished to make.

There could be no proof, so they had to resort to PROBABLY and what a pathetic campaign that made it, for to the public's eye that campaign could be nothing more than an opinion, and that is all it can ever be, an opinion made with insufficient data to be sure it is truth.


Why do atheists try to discredit God?

Well my pet atheists, given to me by a loving God to study and learn from, will all spout on about how it's to stop me from indoctrinating children with tales of my 'puny little god' who does not exist.

Logic is obviously lacking in atheism because they miss the point that if my God does not exist, then there is no need to be abusive towards Him whatsoever, because they should know that He would not be hearing them in the first place!.

But so be it, they need to abuse my God in an attempt to maintain the façade of.... well frankly I'm not sure, the ones I've been issued with seem incapable of rising beyond the cheap shot, pour scorn, and run away form of communications, normal discussion and debate is an impossibility for them.

Maybe God will gift me some better ones when these wear out and fade away?

So you see, Richard Dawkins really did do me a favour when his book challenged my faith, and I thank God for directing me to the book, because otherwise I would never have seen the gross error in all atheism that destined the concept to oblivion.

Which is no surprise because that is what atheists seek anyway, a nice cosy hole in the ground to decompose in, or maybe a swift conversion to ash at 5000º Celsius.

Obviously they think (can't use the word believe, they get twitchy) that the whole point of their existence is to persuade everyone else that there is no point to their existence.

Now that makes sense doesn't it?

The point where Dawkins books enlightened me was when he quoted an early experience.

A lesser mortal may have said he heard a voice lying in bed at night, speaking to him.

But not young Dick.

Oh no!, he looked around and saw a keyhole in the door, and knew instantly that this was where the voice had emanated from....wind passing through a keyhole....not some disembodied voice trying to speak from the spirit world.

That immediately solved my spiritual dilemma, because I had also heard a spirit talking to me at eleven years of age, but had not put it down to the wind, mainly because our doors where council house doors and there were no keyholes.

Dear Lord......had my parents doors had keyholes I may have been an atheist!

God does move in mysterious ways....

But in any case I had received the baptism of the Holy Spirit in 1992, seen Him do miracles and been present when lives had been changed, demons cast out and life abundant poured into redeemed sinners. So the 'God Delusion' could not shake a faith that was evidence based.

The average atheist I've been examining will be spitting bullets now for the amount of 'myths and lies' (their concept of truth) that appeared just there, but I cannot lie and I will not deny that which I have personally experienced.

There lies the rub as my old chum Shakespeare would say, because atheists obviously have no ability to admit experience of any spiritual encounter, they MUST deny spirits, good or bad, because their whole ethos is that they do not believe in anything.

What a gift for Satan that is! - with most of humanity he needs to persuade them (using atheists) that he does not exist, but these fools need no such effort, they deny his existence themselves.

But sad though this is, it in no way diminishes the use that God puts atheists to in clarifying faith.

I would encourage every believer to read The God Deception because if you have a Holy Spirit relationship with God, you will enjoy the read, face the challenge and be better equipped to deal with all those who are in neither camp.

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50 Caliber 6 years ago from Arizona

Each standard must have a counter standard. Hot with out cold, light with out dark, if one existed with out the other how would one know the difference?

So I am glad we have atheist for kindling to start and maintain our fires. I find it disappointing that having a friendly relation with an atheist that I wish would see but refuses and after 10 years there is no point in talking to him about it, that when I show a kindness despite his attitude I heap coals on his head, that is not my intention, yet the Bible assures me that is the result. So in that respect I find a certain sadness in it. He is not boastful of his position and has never called me an old fool and I will be going north for the hunt with him in a few days where we will camp and break bread together and labor to fill our freezers with meat for the year. I enjoy his company but I find it sad that when one of us dies, it will be the last time I see him unless he sees the path and chooses it before his time ends. As for the boasting atheist who tries in vain to tear me down as well as other believers they serve a great purpose in the battle of good versus evil as you say.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi 50,

You live a full life my friend, I would that we could head north to fill our freezers!

Heaping coals is a good thing, because it stems from when the Israelites were in the desert, and had fires at night to stay warm and cook upon. You will know how cold deserts get at night, so if your fire went out..... the bible tells us to 'heap coals' on our enemies, but the concept has been misconstrued, it means give your enemy the ability to rekindle their fire... go the extra mile, so you are being perfectly scriptural for your atheist friend, and serving God at the same time.

How long will you be away hunting?

I guess you hunt deer?

Anyhow, good hunting...

John


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Mekenzie 6 years ago from Michigan

What an awesome hub. You write so prolifically and drew me in with your intellect and reasoning skills that I am quite sure have been 'honed' by God. I too have had a real live experience with the enemy. I was able to help a friend, through spiritual warfare praying and then by getting her to someone that specializes in it, out of the bondage that the enemy had claimed over her life. It was powerful to witness the power of God casting out the wicked demons within my friend. Anyone who doesn't think it is real has never met my 'now delivered' friend .... (notice my pause... wink - thanking you) "For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places." Eph. 6:12. I did not know the roots of "heaping coals" ... I LOVE it and am so glad you taught me. God Bless you Dear man of God!


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

I thank you Mekenzie, like I always say, we are all to be either blessing others or being blessed by each other, well you have blessed me with your comments.


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matt6v33 6 years ago from Bangkok, Thailand

well hello young man, :)

just now had the privilige of reading your "Food For Thought". And what came to my mind, was that a wise man once wrote, "Hey All, Great News! Guess What? There wont be any atheists in Hell" (For they will then See/Believe there foolish choice not to believe, and obey) all the time, while in Hell! for eterntiy... then too, i was reminded by a passage of scripture, were it states that even the "Devil believeth, and trembled"! So my friends, "Believeing" is just not good enough, per God/Christ. Will pray for u!

respectfully

Jim


ruffridyer 5 years ago from Dayton, ohio

You make some valid points. Atheists help keep believers on their toes, I have wanted to ask Richard Dawkins a question. Isn't a Blind Watchmaker still a watchmaker?

You're remark to 50 concerning Heaping Coals being a good thing put me in mind of the christmas idea of Bad children getting coal in their stocking. I wonder if getting coal on a cold christmas morning would actually be a welcomed gift.


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rLcasaLme 4 years ago from Dubai, United Arab Emirates

AWESOME! I've been planning to produce a hub like this but it seems i won't need to anymore. I loved the introduction "I like atheists because they shake out the double minded in the churches, they loosen those who never really had a true faith, secured by a Holy Spirit encounter, and bring them to reality."

Very true. All my childhood, i've always been asking questions, and i can never have understood everyhting about God if I haven't experienced being an atheist. His grace is truly amazing.


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Glad you made it back home Rafael, and thanks for reading.

John

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