We Can Kill A Million, Cecil, The Lion, And It Still Cannot Compare To One Child Murdered Via Abortion....
We Can Kill A Million, Cecil, The Lion, And It Still Cannot Compare To One Child Murdered Via Abortion....
We can tell what a moral cesspool we, as a country, have become when the print media and the social media sites pay more attention and are more empathetic to Cecil, the Lion, that was killed by a big game hunter, than the God-awful taped videos showing operatives for Planned Parenthood (oxymoron) cavalierly discussing the selling of Aborted baby parts. I suppose, anytime now, that President Obama, who is a fan of the murdering of babies via Abortion, will join the fray to condemn the good doctor who shot and killed Cecil, the Lion. Here in New York, ironically, where the politicians just over two months ago, voted unanimously to allow the murders of babies through Abortions, even in the ninth month, are now introducing legislation to ban trophies from the killing of endangered species/animals, in light of the assassination of Cecil, the Lion. Incidentally, I expect that sometime, in the future, we are going to hear of miracles attributed to some of the laity who prayed and invoked the name of the martyred, Cecil, the Lion's name.
There are those who wholeheartedly believe in Abortion but want the doctor who killed Cecil, the Lion to be extradited and tried and be sentenced to ten years in prison - and I bet that some would want the doctor, that heartless assassin, to pay the ultimate price for killing Cecil, the Lion too if they were in charge of the legal proceedings. Here I go again in positing secular blaspheme: we could kill a million Cecil, the Lion, and it still cannot compare morally to one child murdered via Abortion! It was almost tragedy upon tragedy, when news came down saying that Cecil, the Lion's brother had met the same fate... but alas, the news was false; talk about angst among the secular 'sheepdom.' In the interim, we have murdered thousands of babies in secret, but you are not going hear a peep out of any us. This is one of the issues why the world do not take Christians serious because we are no different morally from them... even on an issue as morally salient as the murdering of babies.
Those of us who are well read know of the Trojan Horse story and just like how the military worries about Trojan Horses... so too does the Body-of-Christ. The Apostle Paul and John warned of those who had crept into the early church to pervert the Word of Christ - but today, there is no need for stealth or cloak and dagger tactics because there are Christians who let those who demonically and diametrically opposed to Christ doctrines in our church... that is why we let politicians who support the murder of babies on pulpits to sully them. It is these same politicians in New York who are now trying to fashion legislation to combat the trafficking of endangered species, due to the death of Cecil, the Lion, but enable legislatively the killing of babies by way of Abortion - is there a greater pungent, fetid irony?
I may not be able to change President Obama or the advocates of those who murder babies via Abortion, but I hope I can convince my fellow Christians that the politicians in New York who all recently voted in agreement to murder babies in their ninth month cannot be part or parcel in our churches' proceedings. When we invite these politicians on our pulpits, or moreover vote for them, we are implicated in these unborn murders. I once again give my Christian brothers and sisters a quiz: was Saul, before he became the Apostle Paul, responsible for Stephen, the first Christian martyr's death. The question was rhetorical because all Christians know that Saul was responsible for Stephen's death... so then if Paul was responsible for Stephen's death and he only gave the order to stone the former... then how come those of us who invite on our pulpits and vote for President Obama and these local New York Politicians who support Abortions are not implicated in the unborn deaths (55 million so far)?
We are and should not be surprised how the world is responding to the killing of Cecil, the Lion, as opposed to the tapes showing the sale of Aborted baby parts.. but I had to juxtapose these two news items and put them in perspective, which I should not have to do among Traditional Christians! We must remember our Bible in the respective books of Jude and Isaiah where the Lord told us that the time will come when the world - not Christians - will call 'good,' evil and 'evil,' good. Look around Saints, the time of these happenings is not nigh... it is now!
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Funny--I'm waiting for the same thing from you.
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I hope the Lord Jesus gives you that noted epiphany ....
You said Israel is for Jewish people. That means Arabs must go.....they are not casualties of war, they are murder victims. How can you have a war with no army? And no one stops the murder....the world just watches. And people who say they are pro life high five the murderer. Now that is twisted perversion. So is giving more credence to a lump of flesh that may or may not have
awareness, than an already live human being.
Sorry, I see nothing of pro life in this gun and war culture. And you
get no sympathy for your cause from me.
Well just have to see which cultural identity prevails......pro or anti choice. Forced birth by order of the state, or personal freedom to run own life.
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Little objectivity here - does the PLO, Hammas, murder Jewish children... it is all bad, if children are the casualties of war. I have no allegiance to anyone - but Christ Jesus! Tell me about President Obama addressing Planned Parenthood who everyday hacks babies to death and the Commander-In-Chief saying that they are doing God's work - what kind of twisted perversion is that.
I wonder the same thing....I really wanted to show a picture of a man holding a baby with it's arms and legs blown off by the idf, whose commander in chief got multiple standing ovations by the pro lifers here. Thought it was too gory as well.
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I wonder if the Hub-Pages editors will allow us to show the evil that is Abortion when one input 'Abortion' into Google's Images portal? There is a salient reason why those who support abortion can show the cuddly animals.... but will never show the gory aftermath pictures of Abortions.
Sir Dent, what a nonsense interpretation. God breathed life into all that lives on this planet, includes plants, animals and the human imbicile. Humans are supposed to be blessed with a higher knowledge but that knowledge is so unattainable to most people, the very fact they cannot decipher right from wrong proves this. And if a man cannot keep his penis out of a woman's vagina and prevent pregnancy in the first place, then I dare say he has absolutely no recourse to the decisions a woman makes re her own body.
A fetus is the same to an animal as it is to a human, ovaries, sperm, embryo, newborn. Humans are just another species of animal, supposedly with more intelligence (questionable).
I abhor the fact that many on this planet have to find solace and affection in furry animals over humans, but this in itself is a sad indictment of how out of integrity humans are. That is a topic for a hub because humans have lost the ability to empathize.
For any human to think he has such supremacy over an animal to hunt it for pleasure instead of sustenance confirms my reasons for making my initial statements. You cannot equate human life being more supreme than an animal while using Cecil the lion and the stupid dentist as the context. Well you can if you like, but it is a ridiculous comparison.
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If I thought that you did not have an opinion... why would I post what you have said on the issue - did I ever attack you personally?
Jewels said, "Humans are animals too"
This is where the problem lies. Human are not animals. They never were and never will be. Whether you believe in God or not, God spoke animals into existence but man He formed with His own hands. It was into the nostrils of man that He breathed the breath of life. Not animals.
To man was given dominion over the earth, not animals. Your type of thinking and believing is what causes so much pain to so many.
I looked up the word Fetus in a dictionary dated to 1828.
Fetus
FE'TUS, n. plu. fetuses. [L. faetus.] The young of viviparous animals in the womb, and of oviparous animals in the egg, after it is perfectly formed; before which time it is called embryo. A young animal then is called a fetus from the time its parts are distinctly formed, till its birth.
Feu de joie, fire of joy, a French phrase for a bonfire, or a firing of guns in token of joy.
Doesn't say a human baby. It says of an animal. When humans are considered nothing more than animals, harm comes to many because some will act like animals. Some animals will kill their young. This is what is happening not only in the US but around the world right now. Statistics from the site I linked above states that a baby is aborted approximately every two seconds. Such a sad day and time that we live in.
Christin,
When I did take it up with you personally, you closed the conversation, remember? So I continued the discussion of the same topic elsewhere. You say everyone has a right to their opinion, well so do I. You are the one who thinks others aren't entitled to their own opinion. You might can silence someone on your questions but here you are not the dictator.
And for you to try to shame me in to silence by calling me a bully really shows who the bully is. You and the other posters tried to shame me into thinking as you guys did by constantly going back and admonishing me for defending the hunter when i really wasn't. I am just not psycho enough to suggest he die or lose everything like the rest of you did. If I were the bully I would have been the one chasing you here to keep you quiet but we see who the real bully is.
You purposely lied to slant the question in favor of the result you wanted. When I corrected you about it, you lied again. The fact is that everyone that answered there are hypocrites and only come out of the woodwork when the media tells them to. Fostering a couple of animals doesn't make you a conservationist. Me and other outdoorsmen like me give money and time constantly to ensure our wildlife is protected. You write a question when a lion with a cute name gets shot by a rich man. I hope you feel great about yourselves for being used as a patsy by beurocrats who want to push their own agenda.
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Because I wrote the blog and its caption... I will respond with my 'degraded' thinking.... incidentally, I have walked the secular, hollowed halls of academia and I have held my own - but I stand with what I have said: - A thousand Cecils are not worth one Aborted human being. This is a forum that fosters opinion and that is what I do and to that end, for me there is nothing more heinous than the act of Abortion and I will never, never equate an animal to a baby and there is no reasoned prose you can posit that will change my mind!
Maybe there is something missing in school teaching in regard to the Animal Kingdom. Humans are animals too and yet you place a priority toward humans in a way that spells superiority in such a pompous way. There is a bridge of knowledge happening globally where empathetic, compassionate, intelligent people are awakening to the low level attitudes humans now seem to embrace as normal. To say 1000 Cecils are the equivalent of one human life is a form of degraded thinking that has created this incident in the first place. A dentist, one would think, is learned and intelligent, yet is no better than a rabid dog to create such an act. The karma toward him has been swift and it continues.
Comparing blood sport to abortion is a cheap shot by opportunists. It's an unintelligent sweeping statement that lacks understanding, empathy and compassion.
BizWhiz if you have something to say to me you can take it up with me personally. I don't need you trash talking me on other people's hubs. People are allowed to disagree with you and what I posted was indeed factual. I have been an animal rights activist for many years up to and including fostering many animals, so don't preach about me or my motives where it doesn't belong. You do not know anything about me and yet you trash talk me on other people's hubs? FYI, people are allowed to disagree with you. I closed responses to that question because it was clear all you wanted to do was fight and not discuss an issue I happen to care about (way before Cecil made it an issue of the day). When questions lose their focus and become battle grounds, I close them, what's the point in keeping them open. On MY questions I get to choose what I feel is the best answer. If you don't like the questions I pose, I recommend you refrain from answering them, and then bullying those who disagree with you.
Actually, if I loved Israel, there wouldn't be a problem.
As Helen Thomas said: "I hit the third rail. You cannot criticize Israel in this country
and survive,"
Which is the point I was trying to make: How come all these Christians condemn US women, but not Israeli women?
How come they call Obama a "baby-killer", but not Netanyahu?
Shows where the loyalty lies...not with USA. IMO
u luv u some israel
If I had to guess, it's because I mentioned Israel. BIG nono
lovemychris
How come when you visit a hub, it gets taken down?
You're welcome. It grows weary fighting for basic dignity....I'm so sad for the women of this patriarchal world.
Chris said, "I don't know. What I do know is there are too many born children that are here already that no one wants. And I do know that the woman is a human being with rights, too. Without her there in no child, there for, it's her decision whether it comes to pass in the first place.
Since this society doesn't trust women with the responsabiliy God gave her, I guess God got it wrong."
Thanks for answering, Chris. I am not looking for a debate.
I don't know. What I do know is there are too many born children that are here already that no one wants. And I do know that the woman is a human being with rights, too. Without her there in no child, there for, it's her decision whether it comes to pass in the first place.
Since this society doesn't trust women with the responsabiliy God gave her, I guess God got it wrong.
Chis said, "I don't consider a fetus a child."
I am curious. When does a fetus become a child?
Keep proving my point........
Just because you don't consider it a child doesn't mean it isn't so. That just proves you are crazy.
And it proves u are a hard liner!
That is false dichotomy.you admitted you are against abortion. I don't consider a fetus a child.
You can't use your definitions on me. I don't buy them. Those are religious interpretations used to control others lives.
No, lol. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. If I am anti-abortion then you are anti-life. I will give you just as much respect as you gave me.
You say that pro-choice gives an option, but that is a lie. The unborn child didn't get a choice. So you see, I am pro-life and you are anti-life.
Nope. Pro choice. The reason they are different is that no one is forcing women to have an abortion. It is there as option.
But those who would ttake that option away are anti abortion. See? Did that go over your head?
OK....so my question still remains unanswered.
And people are too polically correct to dare.
Because really, there is only one answer.
Ok, and you are anti-life. Now that we have that cleared up, let's move on.
I never said I am pro-Israel. I am pro-America.
Life is too short, I am moving on. Later
OK....u are anti abortion!
And sorry, but understanding that u are conservative is not Einstein territory...or that pro life means ani abortion.
You just won't say it, because that makes u a hard liner!
Once again......why don't you try......how can yo be anti abortion. Really anti abortion, and pro Israel
What does separation of church and state mean to you?
lovemychris said: "So. Abortion is OK w you?"
Umm, pro-life means I don't believe in killing, soooo...I don't know where you would get that I am ok with abortion.
lovemychris said: "And, your assumption that I'm too dumb to understand u is hardline!"
I never said you were dumb. I actually didn't even say why you wouldn't understand. You just assumed that I meant dumb, which means you are insecure about your intelligence. So that one is on you, not me.
I don't understand a lot of things, but it doesn't mean I am dumb. It just means I am human. Btw, you must not understand what 'hardliner' means if you think that makes me one.
You said: "But the founders also made it clear.....u don't rule w your religion"
No they didn't. You should read my Hub about George Washington.
You said: "The anti abortionists are out of their league"
Ok. This is real life, not a competition. Are you one of those people who are obsessed with "winning" debates online? First you think people ignore you because they cannot give a better answer than you, now you think anti-abortionists are out of their league. That is the characteristic of a hardliner. Also, making broad sweeping generalizations about people is another characteristic.
So. Abortion is OK w you? And, your assumption that I'm too dumb to understand u is hardline!
Theist does not equal Christian.
And I thought conservatives said Republic, not Democracy.
But the founders also made it clear.....u don't rule w your religion.
The anti abortionists are out of their league
I am not anti-abortion, I am pro-life. All life. I gave you my beliefs on that earlier, but you seem to cherry pick what you want for your argument. I am conservative by nature, not just politically, but personally. I am sure that went over your head, but I don't feel the need to explain myself too much.
I don't THINK America was founded by Christians, I KNOW it was. That is just a fact. Was 100% of the people that helped build this country Christian? No, but Christians were the majority and were an integral part of our nation. Do I believe we are a Christian theocracy? No, but we are a democracy with the majority being Christians. That is also fact.
Right...there is no debate. You have no right to decide what a woman does with her body. End of story. I am providing my side....they provide theirs: Debate!
And aren't you an anti-abortion, right-wing Christian, who thinks America was founded by, and belongs to Christians?
If I knew how to upload all your comments--it would be easily seen how hardline you are.
I tried punching in "The Biz Whiz on forums".....nothing workable. How to do it?
lovemychris said: "Uh huh.....I've seen your comments on threads."
Show me where I have made hardliner statements. I'm calling your bluff here, so let's see what you have got.
You said: "They ignore me, because there is no answer."
No they ignore you because you are so entrenched in your beliefs, that there is no reason for "debate". Good luck with that.
Uh huh.....I've seen your comments on threads. Hardliner, you are, IMHO
They ignore me, because there is no answer.
You can't be so fervently against abortion for some, then placidly support it for others.
We who are pro-choice, support that choice for all women, world-wide.
Seems to me that anti-abortion condemnation and demonization applies only at home.
And I would point out that the Mullahs in Iran say abortion is allright, until "the fetus develops a soul"
That seems more in line with American Christian thinking than "free abortion to any woman 20-33".
But--they will not praise Mullahs, as they do Netanyahu.
You see--it's all political! Even the beginning of declaring abortion a "sin"! Look it up.(if u care to)
And my daughter's lives are not considered AT ALL. They are, in effect, after-thoughts to the religious beliefs of those who hold power.
I/E: mostly men.
Dude, chill. I was just throwing out some maybes. I am not that into politics like you. I am not a hardliner extremist. I was just giving an answer because you asked me and because felt bad that everyone was ignoring you. I'll never make that mistake again. Have a good one.
Oh I see.....they can throw all this hate out at American women, but still respect Israeli women. Thanks for nothing!
Once again.....YOU can say a fetus is a baby.....not everyone agrees. Women are not "killing babies"...that job is left up to men, and their WARS.
Now--if they would like a fool-proof way to stop unwanted pregnancies, and abortion: Vasectomize all boys. When they can afford to support a pregnancy, they can reverse the vasectomy. How's that?
Will Never happen. "What? make me do something? Are you crazy? No way--you just keep your legs closed to me, that's all. Just because I want sex: It's not my fault!!!"
These R men are anti-female, plain and simple, IMO
Any man who would make his daughter go thru that, or even let his wife die in it.....you can stuff that idea where carrots grow.
........In Mother Earth.
Abortion is a natural act--done through-out time......
Maybe you should research just when it became a sin.
As with everything....it's political, and done for certain people's personal gain.
Chris, I suppose it's because they don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Just because they don't like something about them, doesn't mean they have to not like them. If that were the case, no one would get married
It is called diversion. Cecil the Lion had not been mentioned until after the news came of PP selling body parts of aborted babies. The distraction was needed to take heat of PP.
How about some stats on abortions. http://bound4life.com/statistics/
Annually, an estimated 43.8 million babies die from abortion worldwide (World Health Organization/Guttmacher Institute, published 2012). That’s approximately one baby being aborted every two seconds.
An estimated 57.5 million babies in the U.S. have been aborted since 1973 (National Right to Life/Guttmacher Institute, Jan. 2015). Approximately 21% of all U.S. pregnancies end in induced abortion (Guttmacher Institute, July 2014).
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Once again, wherever Abortion happens, Israel included... for me it is immoral.
Israel allows for free and safe abortion for any female ages 20-33.
Many Christians will demonize American women for "murdering their babies", but turn around an support Israel, whose women "murder babies" too.
Just wondering what it's REALLY all about is all.
Well, even though I was not in that conversation, I will tell you why I think abortion is evil. My motto is pretty simple. Intentionally taking a life is wrong...period. I don't agree with war, the death penalty, or abortion. As for self-defense, one does not have to intentionally kill a person to defend ones self.
As for your comment about Israel, I have no idea what you are talking about. I live in America jack.
Still waiting for anyone to explain to me how they think abortion is evil, yet supports Israel.....AND sends tax dollars to them.
No Hyde Amendment there......
But, no one is demonizing Israeli women....just American ones.
Waiting for someone to say "Israeli women murder their own babies!"
*chirp**chirp*
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The late Christophe Hitchens - who was an avowed atheist - yet, I can paraphrased him because he said that there are those, if they saw a dangerous animal, say like a lion, in their respective bedrooms threatening family, etc, that they would call the ASPCA, instead of grabbing a weapon to kill said animal... thus protecting self and family - such is the lunacy of our world now.
Great Hub. It amazes me the people who come out of the woodwork when they see an animal killed. Even though this happens everyday, they only care when the animal has a cute name like Cecil.
We are surrounded by horrible acts, such as abortion, slavery, and true acts of animal cruelty, but these types of people (sheep really) only react when the media tells them to.
Recently here on HP, Christin asked a loaded question about the hunter who shot Cecil the lion. Just like the media, she included false facts to get the response she wanted and just like she wanted, all of the hubbers pandered to her beliefs. They ranged from hoping the man suffered financial collapse to him actually being killed. When I stated that I didn't personally trophy hunt, but was not prepared to condemn the dentist, everyone got up in arms. When I presented facts, they continued with rhetoric. When I told one poster that hunters contribute more money to conservation, she said they could do it without hunting. I told her that would never happen and asked he how much money she donated, she never replied back. Although everyone posting was against me, my answer was listed as the best. When I supplied more facts, Christin chose another answer as best and closed the question.
If they were really animal rights activists, they would go and protest developments because loss of habitat is the real enemy of animals, not legal hunters. The reality is that the majority of these people don't contribute any time or money to the cause they claim to be passsionate about. They only make the effort to complain on the internet
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Hello sister - I have a challenge for you: simply input the word "abortion' into Google's Images portal and honestly tell me what you see is not the epitome of wickedness? I am a traditional Christian and so whatever the Bible says concerning any behavior I believe, even if I myself fall short... and I did not say that I support the killing of animals and mounting them - I said that I could never equate the death of an animal to that of a baby!
And my beliefs are that my body belongs to me and me alone.
And--Israel is pro-choice. How can you support them and not your own country-women?
My feeling--and no one will like it--is that abortion is a natural act: miscarriage is what it is. And God trusts women with the sacred duty of giving birth.....he trusts her to know when it's right and when it isn't: just as miscarriage does.
But abortion is done by a woman, and so it must be made a filthy act.
Dropping a bomb is not a natural act, it's totally man-made. And it kills real live babies! But, since men are doing it: it's justified in any way possible.
Same way they always make God a man.
And further....I think that men are kind of jealous of God, knowing he/she IS all powerful, not them, and controlling women is the only way they can assert power and superiority.
Why else would they be involved in what a woman they don't even know is doing?
If you truly love your daughter, you don't want her to be forced to give birth against her will. It is NOT a little thing!
And now they are talking (the R candidates) about not caring if a woman DIES!
I see it as pure woman hate, and jealousy. Jealous of women, and the power God gave them......even angry. And Jealous of the power God has over us....otherwise, in my opinion, you all would live and let live.
Females are true enablers of life on this planet: which is also called Mother Earth.
Maybe that's why they are polluting her to death, too?
And your own God gave man dominion over the animals....do you think your God approves of killing them to hang their head on a wall?
All life is sacred?
Not hardly!
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I can and never will equate the death of an animal to that of a child! For me that is a specious comparison and If the Israelis are killing Palestinians... they too should be brought to justice - but you must also know that for me and in accordance to my belief in my Bible that Israel belongs to the Jews and the Jews alone.
But we are not stopping the murder of Cecils, or Palestinians.....only the removing of a fetus.
Why is that?
Great hub!
We can't afford the luxury of denouncing one kind of murder and ignoring the other. Murder is a murder. Murder of Cecil, Palestinian child, abortion, etc. all need to be condemned.
You cannot blame those who call for the head of that doctor who murdered Cecil for not calling for the head of Israeli arsonists or pro-abortionists.
What do you think of this?
"A couple of days ago in the Palestinian village of Duma, Ali Dawabsha, an 18-month-old toddler died as a result of an arson committed by Israeli settlers, who deliberately torched the house while the family was asleep"
Not a lion, but a living child. I don't understand why we embrace this!
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Thanks, I do not understand either how we could embrace Abortion as a practice and place it in our laws and look at those who oppose Abortion as the monsters....
So very true! How can anyone look at those little limbs and body parts and say that is no baby! These people would love to help keep convincing women this is OK so they not only can go on selling parts but keep the world rid of who they would rather not have here; all they time convincing them they are on their side!
Well brother in Christ; some of us have to forget about PC and as Christians I think we just better figure out which side we are on!
Voted up and shared all around!
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