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Signs that Hubber may not be objective

Updated on February 15, 2012

Over the years I have belonged to enough online forums and communities to know that not everyone plays fairly. I have learned that no matter how well our Mama's have instilled the value of fairness we will from time to time encounter the very same kind of belligerent and petty behavior we had hoped was left far, far behind with our High School days. It happens in the work place, in stores, in neighborhoods, in traffic, even our places of worship. But despite this newbies to forums often expect -reasonably so- that at least while online we will be spared being singled out for emotional or verbal abuse.

Alas, web world just isn't this way. It is full of trolls, flamers, spammers, hackers and the run-of-the-mill psychic vampires who delight in nothing more than in inflicting all the emotional pain they can on others. I will say, however, that percentage-wise, Hubpages has less of these undesirables than any other forum I've belonged to. OR perhaps, to say it more aptly, there is a HIGHER percentage of mature adults here than on any other forum I have belonged to. The immature and sleazy do still manage to pop up every now and then, and inevitably, try to spread their non-objective manure wherever they go.

If you are a Hubpages newbie they may be hard to recognize until you've encountered them up and personal in the most discomforting kind of ways. This is unfortunate, and so this Hub is for you: a guide from personal observation about the typical kind of Negative Nellies you'll want to avoid during your experience at Hubpages. If you do encounter these folks by chance, I recommend not engaging with them. Just ignore them to the best of reasonable ability. Because if there if there is one thing I've learned in life online it is that folks who won't post objectively will not engage objectively either.

Signs that Hubber may not be objective

They post a hub with no text, just a big iconic image that they know instills discomfort or intimidation in a great many people.

like this

or this one

or scariest of all..

They put up a huge and generally non-offensive religious or spiritual image while their only written contribution is the most judgmental passage they can snag from their spiritual text of choice.

They spread the message of their political candidates of choice by hunting out unconverted Hubbers and lovingly telling them how “un-American”, “uneducated”, “ignorant”, "douche-baggy", ect. they are.

If it looks like a paid ad, reads like a paid ad and all the links lead to a product that is identical to a service advertised on the backs of the Yellow Pages, chances are they "contributed" a paid ad.

They write with a great deal of passion but avoid, just as passionately, basic rules of spelling in practically everything they write.

They lure the unwary in with topic titles like “Hottest Women of-" or "Sexy Babes of-“ to promote an entity, forum or viewpoint they just like.

"The sexy babes of Fox News"

They tempt the unwary in with topic titles like “Hot Chicks-“ but in reality their contribution is a mere diss on an entity or viewpoint they just don’t like.

"The fine CHICKS of Fox News"

They have developed a rep for making long-winded emotional comments but show lacking energy in contributing their own Hubs.

They are vehement in their advocacy and support of victims –but only if those victims happen to fit into their political agenda of choice.

Some victims have their undying support

while others don't

They plead for social tolerance and open-mindedness while at the same time denouncing other Hubbers with brow-beating commentary

They often reference material at Wikipedia or other questionable "information" sites to support of their arguments, usually pages with warnings that the substance and/or quality needs editing or does not meet source site's standards.

Their Hubs include numerous links to their personal seller sites at eBay without the consideration to tell visitors in advance that these lead to their personal seller sites at eBay.

They give a lot of advice about the opposite sex –most always bitter- and defend their expertise on the subject by the number of their equally bitter divorces.

They not only select an absurd member name but identify their home turf as an absurd fictional place and/or use an absurd photo to identify themselves.

They post very questionably titled questions to the community.

They don't back away from using the “innocent women and children” truism to defend their views although the substance of their general articles bears indication that if on a sinking ship they'd be among the first to start running over women and children in the flee to the lifeboats.

They will single out an individual as their scape-goated example of a bad or illiterate Hubber.

Their sense of political humor is noticeably lop-sided.

They may find this offensive..

yet find this hilarious. Or vice-versa.

Their only major contribution to the community is to be a sock puppet for antagonistic Hubbers.

Their major source of camaraderie in the face of disagreeing comments comes from sock puppets.

Despite their claims to having pursued a higher education, their activity makes everyone else pretty darned sure they majored in Shout Down.

They psychically channel Keith Olbermann and pick a topic title like "World's Worst-" not to describe a thing or entity but real people. I don't mean evil people either, like a dictator or murderer or even the next-door-neighbor who kicks puppies, but people as ordinary as themselves. C'mon folks, just calling others the World's Worst person is edging yourself closer and closer to that very title, don't you think?

In closing, let me say this: Individuals with no sense of objectivity tend to wait with bated breath to pounce on anyone with a countering view and subject these targets to garbage no adult needs to waste their time on.

To reiterate: if you come across one of these types my advice is that unless they are threatening you or someone else or using their Hub as a spam device, ignore them. Engaging the non-objective on their own turf or with return fire, so to speak, will only encourage them. If they repeatedly show up on your Hub with nasty comments, apply the Moderate Comments option.

A friend once told me this: opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one. But sadly, some who don't have hearts over-compensate on the butthole part.

Wishing you all a creative and productive day :)

And talking about channeling Keith Olbermann..


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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Jeff Berndt, PDXKarokeGuy, madmachio and Millionaire Tips - thanks much for reading and commenting :) May your days at Hubpages be fun and rewarding!

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    Shasta Matova 6 years ago from USA

    Great, entertaining way to warn us about what to watch out for in the forums. Humor is definitely a better way to go than a rant! Hope you can avoid them most of the time.

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    Nathan K 6 years ago from Kansas

    This was good!

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    Justin W Price 6 years ago from Juneau, Alaska

    really entertaining hub and kudos to you for pointing out these types of people. For the record, to show my bias, anyone trying to emulate Keith olbermann is rather dumb. I don't mind his views at times, but he's a dreadful broadcaster.

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    Jeff Berndt 6 years ago from Southeast Michigan

    Another sign that a hubber may not be objective: they delete comments that disagree with their hub (especially if their facts are false).

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Thanks to everyone who read and commented. I apologize for not being able to reply personally at this time but I have two sick young'uns right now. But bright thoughts to all :)

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    Jeff Berndt 6 years ago from Southeast Michigan

    Hilarious, and a good reminder. Voted funny and up.

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    Marvin Parke 6 years ago from Jamaica

    Really enjoyed this hub, it made me burst out in laughter.

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    FitnezzJim 6 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

    Too funny, and too true. To be honest, I didn't recognize Bush until someone pointed it out, and was wondering. And, that legal ad, isn't there a variant that includes a picture of a chimpanzee named 'Cheeta'?

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    Rhys Baker 6 years ago from Peterborough, UK

    This was hilarious and so true! Thanks for lightening my day - I will return whenever such an individual raises their head. :)

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    Nicole Canfield 6 years ago from Summerland

    I definitely try to avoid the forums now because that's usually where the trolls sit and wait. If you go and look at their profiles, they usually have like 5 to 10 hubs and have been on Hubpages for years...merely here to offend and rile up people who are simply trying to communicate with others in an effective objective way. I found this hilarious and SO true. Thanks for writing this. Voted up and funny. You just crack me up, beth!

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    Leah Kennedy-Jangraw 6 years ago from Massachusetts

    This is a great hub because you get your point across and it is funny all at the same time (those star wars pics are great!) I have yet to dive into the forums but have seen some mean-spirited things in the comments of people's articles. I agree though, overall this site seems to have a lot of mature people, generally encouraging and good-natured. Thanks for the warning for those of us new and/or new to different areas of the site.

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    Alexander Pease 6 years ago from Maine


    Hilarious and entertaining hub. I particularly liked the part about how is a person writes an article that only interests, or includes, themselves, it becomes more about them, than the reader.

    Great hub!

    Alexander Pease.

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    hoteltravel, you are very sweet, thank you :)

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    nityanandagaurang, thank you very much :)

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    nityanandagaurang, thank you very much :)

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    hoteltravel 6 years ago from Thailand

    You have described the humorous side of this menace so well to make us laugh. Thanks for the well-written hub and the hilarious images. Voted up and awesome.

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    nityanandagaurang 6 years ago

    fantastic hub bethperry.

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    WillStarr 6 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

    You may be right, Beth. It did seem a little rash.

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Dexter, thanks for reading and sharing. I am shocked, though, 'cause your photography is fantastic. And Will is indeed pretty awesome! You are right, too, its good when the adults stick together against the peanut gallery.

    Thank you again :)

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    Dexter Yarbrough 6 years ago from United States

    Ah, Beth! You have a knack for telling the truth through humor. You do it very well!

    I had an idiot that came after me because he hated my photography - which everyone else seemed to like. He was really rude.

    The great thing is, some of my followers, especially WillStarr (several comments up) came to my assistance. That hubber (small h) leaves me alone now. It is great to have people that support you in writing and defend you against mean-spirited people.

    Great hub!

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    That's weird, I had to delete my own comment because it showed up twice! lol Sorry folks.

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Will, actually my daughter brought that up last night for me to see. While I understood the dude's feelings I got the feeling there's a lot of tension in that family to begin with..and have to wonder if the daughter didn't learn her "back-at'cha" habits from the Dad. But it was humorous to watch.

    Thanks for dropping by hon!

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    WillStarr 6 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

    Did you see that video of a father shooting his rude daughter's laptop?


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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Alastar, how awful for that lady. I belong to another forum, and some years ago a creep, who liked to go around leaving vulgar comments, decided he wanted to threaten my life. He was quickly removed altogether for that but I never forgot. I'd never even addressed that person in any context, just knew him by reputation. It can be a perilous thing to be in a community, it truly is. I hope that lady you spoke of will return. How very sad some hate-filled person ran her off like that!

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    Alastar Packer 6 years ago from North Carolina

    Bethperry, one of the first things I saw on HP was a very nice English lady get skewered on a paranormal thread by one that shall remain nameless. This hubber actually said to her "do you see why we hate you now." She never pursued any writing on here because of that. Your right though, compared to alot of other sites HPer's are generally more civilized than many other forums. Bethperry great hub and the 'Signs that hubber may not be objective' is spot on and wicked funny!

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Barbara Kay, thanks for dropping in and reading. And glad you enjoyed the photos!

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    Barbara Badder 6 years ago from USA

    These photos were hilarious. You gave me a good laugh. The ones with Obama and Bush are so funny they are beyond that even.

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    kelleyward, you're so very right. Thanks for dropping by, too :)

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    theinfoplanet, Hubpages is really pretty tame compared a lot of communities. But yeah..there's some hilarity from the peanut gallery :)

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Rebecca, YW and thanks much for dropping in!

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Nell, I try to do the same, and really have no use or patience for blowhards. Thanks much for commenting, lady, good to hear from you :)

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    kelleyward 6 years ago

    Very funny. I know them well also. I have had my experience with this elsewhere in other social sites and it definitely thickens the skin....

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    theinfoplanet 6 years ago from The Planet of Information

    Lol, I haven't been on the forum yet, but from what I see, it is pretty hilarious! I think I will check it out now...

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    Beth Perry 6 years ago from Tennesee

    Veronica, thanks for dropping by and reading..and the vote up, too. Much appreciated :)

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    Rebecca Mealey 6 years ago from Northeastern Georgia, USA

    Ha! Funny! I have not been very active in the forum yet. Just not enough time, but I am grateful for the heads up.I'll be a lookin'!

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    Nell Rose 6 years ago from England

    Hi, Oh I know them well! lol! just after I joined I got 'picked on' to say the least, but we did sort it out in the end, I won't get involved in forum discussions unless they are totally innocent! but yes, 'they' will find a way to upset the apple cart! actually its not just the sock puppets that get up peoples noses, sometimes its arrogance too! I know of someone months ago who left for a while because they were so upset by another persons arrogance towards them, I think the words were, 'talking down to me like I was an idiot!' hey ho, thats life, bound to be one or another, I just keep my head down now! haha!

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    Veronica Roberts 6 years ago from Ohio, USA

    LOL!! I found this so funny and so true! I'm glad that I'm not the only one that has seen - well - all of these scenarios.

    I am absolutely offended, though, by some of the pictures!

    Okay, okay, I'm kidding. ;)

    Up & Awesome!


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