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Subjects to write hubs about to get featured

Updated on September 9, 2015

Featured hubs get the most traffic and traffic is what you want

Hubpages has recently introduced a new system of Idling hubs and taking them out of the search engine results. The exact details of what makes a hub considered not good enough to be active as part of your collection of writings has not been revealed but we have a good idea of what subjects are not wanted here. The system has been changed again to make hubs either featured or not. Featured hubs are the ones getting found and getting the traffic.

Most of us contribute to HubPages because we are hoping to make some money, and so we want successful and popular hubs that will get a lot of traffic. We need to know what is wanted here and what is not.

In my last hub I wrote in some detail about what not to make the subject of your hubs. In this one I am going to do the reverse and suggest topics that are more likely to be successful.

Flying Saucers or UFOs?

Flying Saucers in the Public Domain but call them UFOs
Flying Saucers in the Public Domain but call them UFOs

Subjects not to write about

Do not publish poetry here no matter how important it is to you. It is not likely to get many views and will end up taken out of the active hubs that are featured. Philosophy and discussions about deep and serious matters are not appreciated too.

Don’t write about dead people even if they were once very famous. They are dead and best forgotten. HubPages wants new and happening news stories about celebrities that are very much alive.

This also means that it is no good writing about unpublished writers and unsigned musicians. No one has heard of these people so they won’t be looking for them on Google or via the other search engines. We want subjects with keywords that many members of the public are looking for.

HubPages wants articles that are very much focused in the present. This is the now generation we are catering for. Past events are gone and the dead are buried. People want to read about what is going on now and who the current movers and shakers are!

Remote countryside locations are not a good idea as well. The fact that they are remote and sparsely inhabited tells you a lot. These are not the sort of popular places that tourists flock too and lots of people search for online. Remember that it is popularity that counts because a popular subject means that lots of searches are made for it.

Obscure and old-fashioned words and terms are not a good idea too. For example, hardly anyone is searching for “Flying saucers.” Today the term is UFO. People report UFO sightings. Use the more modern versions.

What topics to write about

It has been suggested that the best subjects to write about are those to do with Lifestyle, Fashion and Recipes. HubPages is even supplying a way of adding recipes so that shows this is one topic they definitely want.

Conspiracy Theories are another good subject matter to write hubs about. I have several about the Illuminati, David Icke, the Population Cull and 2012 that are all doing well here.

Also writing about glamorous people and what makes a person to be considered glamorous and fashionable could get good results.

Glam Rock - Sweet with Blockbuster

A glam Bard of Ely

Goth or Glam Bard of Ely
Goth or Glam Bard of Ely

What is Glam?

There was a Glam Rock music genre with stars like David Bowie, Marc Bolan, the band Sweet and many others being known as Glam Rockers. This meant that they wore makeup and glittering flamboyant clothes. It was an androgynous look in which men were dressing in a feminine way but before the 'Gender Bender' Pop stars like Boy George. I have included a photo myself taken in the 1980s in my Glam or Goth look.

Recently though Gary Glitter, who was one of the most famous Glam Rock performers, has come in for a lot of very un-glamorous publicity and scandal. Bad press has tarnished Glitter's glam image. A glamorous lifestyle is good subject matter, however.

It is a good idea to write about glam subjects but be careful you don't stray too far into the world of 'adult' entertainment and words that are not approved here at HubPages.

I have some successful hubs that have not been idled that are about Kellie Everts who is a very controversial woman, who came to fame as a "Stripper for God" but is now known as Guru Rasa von Werder.

So outspoken is Rasa that she lost her Facebook site on four occasions and all of her videos at Youtube. Some of them had semi-nudity and we don't want any of that in our hubs. The point I am making here is that if you are writing about someone like this you have to keep within guidelines laid down by Google and HubPages as to what is acceptable or not. If you don't a moderator or an automatic filter will detect words or images that are not allowed and your hub may end up unpublished. You don't want that to happen.

At the bottom of pages here now we can read "NING GLAM SOCIAL", which is a clue that perhaps suggests that Glam is good!

It is always a good idea to make your hubs more visually appealing too. Give viewers some 'eye candy.' This is where photos and videos are what you need to include.

Potato Egg Curry, Indian potato egg recipe, Indian curry recipe

Best Recipe books for making Curries

Recipes work well

On Hubpages and on many other sites you will find lots of recipe pages. So popular are recipes that HubPages has incorporated them into Special Layout Options. We are being encouraged to add recipes here.

I don't have any recipe hubs published yet because I'm not the sort of guy that bothers much with measurements of the right quantities of ingredients but judge the amount by sight and just tend to bung it all in the pot and cook. I also eat a lot of very basic foods like Beans on Toast or Boiled Eggs and you can't put much of a recipe together for these.

But the popularity of recipes has got me thinking creatively. I can describe what goes into a curry I might make or a vegetable stew, or even how I make a salad.

Recipes and Lifestyle can be combined too because many people make their diet restrictions an important part of their lives. For example, there are an increasing number of "Raw Foodists" about and raw food recipes. The same can be said about Vegetarians and Vegans.. My top hub at the moment is not a recipe hub as such but is about eating organic foods.

John Kohler is a well-known Raw Foodist and my hub about him stays with a high hubscore and good traffic. This means it will stay featured.

If I start to publish recipe hubs you will know why. It is because they are likely to get featured. They are what HubPages wants now! It is not so much about what we as writers want to write about but what subjects HubPages are likely to keep in the public eye and in the search engines like Google.

© 2012 Steve Andrews


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      Tamara Moore 

      2 years ago

      I appreciate this article, but I write poetry, and all 63 of my Hubs that I have submitted in the 3 months since I have been on Hubpages have all been featured, and receive many views.

      I write rhyming poetry about Narcissists and Sociopaths, and the views keep growing. I have also written humorous rhyming poetry on love, pets, and nonsensical subjects, and they also continue to attract viewers.

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      Nadine May 

      3 years ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

      Thanks for your tips on what topics do best and gets the most hits. I do know that chapters of a novel do not get so many 'outside hits', but hubpages is great platform to attract some feedback from other hubpage members before the novel is ready for publishing.

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      4 years ago from Home Sweet Home

      thanks for your tips, luckily i don't write about the dead either. I do write a lot of recipes, now i should focus of vegetarian, thanks very much

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      Audrey Hunt 

      4 years ago from Idyllwild Ca.

      Guess I'd best get myself back into the kitchen and whip up some interesting recipes. As much as I love writing poetry I must agree with you about HP preferring other hubs. Great info here and thanks a bunch!

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      Steve Andrews 

      5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thank you and good luck!

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      Sally Gulbrandsen 

      5 years ago from Norfolk

      Bard of Ely - a very useful Hub - I published my first recipe Hub yesterday and was been surprised at how well it was received. Who knows, a conspiracy story might be the next one! Thanks for sharing this info.

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      Steve Andrews 

      5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Well, I can only speak from my experience and my poetry has done very badly here and hubs about people who are dead have also been unfeatured or idled as it was called when I wrote this. I admit I don't know much about SEO but that doesn't explain why a lot of Hubbers I can think of who do know how to use it have all pulled out of here or have stopped bothering! Their hubs have been unfeatured too so where did they all go wrong?

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      Carolee Samuda 

      5 years ago from Jamaica

      Hey Bard, long time no see. I haven't been very active lately but I had to stop by here. I have to disagree with two of your suggestions on what not to publish on HP.

      The first point which I disagree with is when you encouraged writers not to publish their poetry here because they will not get traffic and it will become unfeatured. I disagree because I have proven the total opposite. The mistake poets and fiction writers make is treating their art differently from articles. Should the poet and story writer do the same SEO tricks as the content creator you would be surprised how much traffic they pull in. I currently have 5 poems on HP, all featured. My best poem which was published a year ago has 5530 views of which only 65 of those views are from Hubpages.

      My second disagreement is saying never to write about dead people because they are dead and gone. Famous dead people are our history and people are still searching for these topics for informational purposes. School kids search the internet for assignments all the time. People from around the world search for these people to know know more. Hitler gets over one million monthly searches. Stalin gets over 300,000 monthly searches. Whitney Houston gets over 800,000 monthly searches. Selena Gomez gets over 7 million monthly searches.

      The point I am making is. To publish anything online and make money you must do some SEO. Love poems gets over half a million monthly searches. There is a demand for the things you are telling hubbers not to write about.

      Writing a topic takes more than just putting your thoughts on paper. You must provide a search friendly title if nothing else. I don't want to run on and on but it's not about what you write it's about how you write it.

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thank you for your thoughts on this!

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      Glenn Stok 

      6 years ago from Long Island, NY

      You hit the nail on the head. It is very important to understand what people are looking for on the web, as you had said. That's why poetry and info on out-of-the-way places just don't bring in the search traffic.

      Google tends to lower our ranking on all our content when a few don't work. That has been mentioned in Google's webmaster blogs. HubPages is simply trying to help us by eliminating the hubs that pull down the rest.

      This doesn't mean they are poor quality. It just means that Google isn't sending traffic for any number of reasons. You expressed it very well by explaining that people have no interest in certain things. So why should we waste our time writing about topics that don't bring traffic . There are always exceptions to this rule, such as article written by well-known authors who have a recognized authority on a particular subject.

      I have already deleted a lot of my hubs that don't fit the niches that I see are working for me. This has already helped increase my overall traffic.

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      I am glad to hear you have a successful hub about a dead star. It shows it is possible! Thanks for commenting!

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      Mary Kelly Godley 

      6 years ago from Ireland

      One of my most popular Hubs is about the deceased Marilyn Monroe and the theory that she might have had Aspergers Syndrome. Maybe its the original take on Marilyn that draws people to this particular one of my Hubs or just that she is still an endearing icon these days. All in all your advice is sound and interesting.

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thanks, Ben! Yes, I have heard that dead people are OK if you use the right keywords or link them in with something currently popular.

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      Ben Zoltak 

      6 years ago from Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin USA

      Great hub Bard, food for thought. I can't believe the length of Tim's response too, wow! I'm guessing that you can still write about dead people though, haha, if they are taken into a new, let's say, fashionable light.

      Be well!


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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thank you for commenting!

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      6 years ago

      Thanks for the sharing your great ideas. :-)

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      I am glad you found it interesting, Kerry! Thanks for commenting!

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      6 years ago

      Hi Steve, thanks for sharing. These are great tips. I have actually written about several dead folks, lol...mostly my fascination with psychology and philosophy. Those are actually doing OK, but I do see the obvious point.

      Enjoy your week!

      Kerry :)

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thanks for your thoughts on this!

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      nicomp really 

      6 years ago from Ohio, USA

      I say forget Google and market your site in other ways. Stressing out over keywords is a huge waste of time anyway because the ads published on these hubs rarely matches the author's intent. You can write the world's greatest screed on a controversial evergreen topic with perfectly balanced words, paragraphs, and keywords, but it the ad is completely unrelated it doesn't matter one whit how long a reader tarries on your page.

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thank you, Nora!

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      6 years ago from Chicago, IL

      Some great advice here, thanks for the information. Voting up and useful !

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thanks for your comments, Angel! Actually I saw a recent report somewhere about Getty Images threatening to sue someone for using a photo and the threat was pay up a lot of money or we are taking you to court. I can't remember where I saw this but was thinking about all the photos that get used illegally and how a lot of people could get into trouble.

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      Angel Ward 

      6 years ago from Galveston, TX

      I agree with you and you obviously have experience here, the only thing I can't stand is the celebrity spamming.... I also write for and its chock full of it, with images by people who didin;t take them (Getty) and the same celeb shots are used over and over and over... plus if its Hub pages or Examiner, its not news, its repeated news with an opinion attached and we have millions of bloggers who do just that genre who are already respected and well known...... grrrr.... celebrities I'd rather go eat a dead rotting rat out of a toxic sewer than read any more celebrity junk...swew got that off my chest, but other than that, recipes, conspiracies etc sound great! LMAO!!

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Lidia actually got a record deal with a small label after my hubs were out there (there is an interview with her still on HP) but I think she is no longer with that label. Nevertheless I thought at the time my hubs had probably helped. A couple of her fans retweeted my Wizzley article on her.

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      aa lite 

      6 years ago from London

      Well when I googled Lidia, the front page was full of social networking. Funny because if I wanted to find her FB page, I would have searched for her in FB rather than in Google.

      I really dislike Google result pages now, a lot of youtube videos etc. People will say that it's because Google owns youtube, which might be partly the answer, but basically I think they've decided that people don't like lengthy articles, and for those that do there is wikipedia. Perhaps they will change, Google is always evolving.

      Hopefully Lidia will get better Google rating in Wizzley. If she doesn't I don't really think it makes a huge difference whether she's featured or not.

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      I moved Lidia to Wizzley. I was very disappointed with seeing it go from top ranking on Google to idled on here!

      You say that Google likes musicians social networking sites and I have found that Google lists my Myspace site at the top of searches for Bard of Ely. This is very disappointing too seeing as I hate the site now and rarely post there. This is not helping musicians at my level! It wouldn't surprise me if Lorraine's Myspace site ranks highly too.

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      aa lite 

      6 years ago from London

      According to Google Adwords, which incidentally doesn't always give you accurate results, Lorraine gets 320 exact monthly searches, which might be a bit low, unless your hub could get the majority of these searches. Lidia on the other hand gets 1600 exact searches, and, what is quite cool if you are ready to play the game, "Lydia Guevara" gets 720 exact searches. So unless there is another famous person called Lydia guevara you could get those too, if you occasionally used the wrong spelling in your hub. So if your hub ranked on the first page of Google for lidia it should definitely be pretty successful. I am guessing that your page started ranking lower before it was idled.

      This could be down to the Google penalty that the site is under. The penalty that the idle hubs and quality assessment and all the other stuff was supposed to remove, but didn't. It is possible that if the penalty was removed your hub would regain 1st page of Google ranking, would get traffic and you would not have to worry about it getting idled. It might be an idea to see whether HP traffic picks up, and then wake Lidia up to see whether she can get better ranking.

      Of course with a good hub, comprehensive hub, like yours, you will not only get search from the exact keyword, but also from long tail keywords. For example giant waxy monkey frog, gets 46 exact global searches, but my hub about it also gets found with Phyllomedusa bicolor, and with various questions about these frogs that are typed into Google, it generally gets a few searches a day, which is not great but it is enough to keep it featured.

      The problem is also the way Google has changed its algorithms about what types of sites it prioritises. For Lidia (and I assume musicians in general) it returns their social media pages (Facebook, twitter, myspace) and many youtube videos, articles seem to be outcompeted by these. My hub about the waxy frog is outcompeted by a youtube video, 2 entries from wikipedia which are identical!!!!!! :( and a forum entry which I am also not pleased about!

      I also disliked squidoo, but I've started trying to write there again rather on HP until it sorts out its problems with Google. Greekgeek actually thinks that Squidoo is so successful because it hides anything that is not in the top 400k (the WIP stuff). The difference is that they've been doing it for ages, whereas HP has just introduced it. The monsters with their "u just earned 5 points" are annoying, but I think you can switch them off in your profile, and they have nothing to do with Google, they are just annoying to you, your readers there and Google don't see them so they don't take that into account when rating the site. greekgeek has written extensively about why she thinks Squidoo is doing better than HP. Have you read this:

      I think you are concentrating too much on why hubs get idled, rather than why hubs don't get Google traffic. If hubs get decent google traffic I don't think they will get idled. However I agree that it is silly of HP to idle hubs that are good but don't get traffic, I think I'm going to write a hub about it (which will no doubt get idled). Why not just let the quality assessment process, even if it is done by Mechanical Turk, weed out the really bad stuff which offends Google, and prevent more bad stuff from being published. Surely that would be enough to remove the Google penalty!

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thanks for the vote and your feedback, aa lite! If Syd is actually "too popular" what about acts such as Lorraine Jordan who got idled too. She is not world famous like Syd perhaps but has critically acclaimed albums out and has been a performer for many years. Lorraine got idled here and so did Lidia Guevara with a hub that at one point was ranking higher than Lidia's official site! I must admit I don't understand how this is working so badly now! And why is Squidoo "respected"? I find it a site that is similar to HP in 'idling' your writings but they call it "work in progress" there, and annoying in the way they keep interrupting with stupid info like "Do you want to see what just earned you 5 points?"

      I have had remote Tenerife location hubs that have been on the front page for Google but still get idled here so why is that?

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      aa lite 

      6 years ago from London

      Love the picture of you form the glam rock period. Definitely voted up.

      The big problem with this site, is that whatever they do they are still under a Google penalty, which means hubs don't rank very well in SERPs. If Google respected HP more, they would rank better, hubs would get more traffic, and therefore be featured.

      For example in your previous hub you mention Syd Barret as a dead celebrity who is of not a good subject for a hub, I think your hub about him was idled. Well you might be surprised that "syd barrett" has 74,000 exact global searches a month! Check it out yourself. Believe me if your hub about him got onto the first page of Google, you would have no problems with getting that hub idled.

      The problem with cyd barrett, is actually that he is too popular and too competitive to be succeed on HubPages. If you look at what's on the front of Google, it is wikipedia (always), his own official site (you wouldn't really want to outcompete that, would you), articles from the BBC, guardian and a lot of youtube videos. It is possible that if HP was as respected by Google as Squidoo is, you might have a chance of outrankings some of these, and then you be having lots of views and making lots of lovely money.

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thank you, MT! Sadly here if you write what you want, no matter how well written it is , it will not be featured so may as well be published elsewhere. The days of freedom of expression and topic at HP have seemingly gone!

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      Shasta Matova 

      6 years ago from USA

      The idling of hubs, and particularly the nofollow attribute, is disappointing when you at least want a chance to be found.

      While it is difficult to feel confined to writing to the masses, I think it is a matter of choosing the right venue. You can choose to write for the masses and expect to be profiled and get Google views, or you can choose to write what you wish, and just share your work with the HubPages community - and whoever else you share the links with.

      I hope that you find much success with your new topics. Voted up.

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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Tim, I thank you for your feedback which could make a hub in itself!

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      Tim Mitchell 

      6 years ago from Escondido, CA

      I agree with much of what you say 'Bard of Ely'. And, thankfully I welcome your positive effort seeking change. I see all those forums have been put to good use. Have you considered removing the name hubpages & google and then substituting them for things like a segment of society or culture from a local, regional, or world view? It just may have better exposure on a much grander scale when addressing just that, the big picture and not the corner of the picture.

      Or, are you doing some market research and will toss a change up latter by changing some 'key words' for that grander marketplace.

      I am not trying to be critical of the article, since I believe it was written very well. In fact I think it is brilliant. I just feel sad that the object of discontent is Hubpages and not the condition of the world in general.

      If you desire to see what the world sees with hubpages and discover a formula for success take a peek here at what the market place thinks of hubpages and squidoo and others.

      It seems there is a lucrative marketplace for the intent of Hubpages, squidoo, and others. It is so lucrative business ventures are capitalizing on those concepts and achieving great success. Value comes into play with worth, time becomes a factor, and of course the overall plan. If marketing a specific content is a desire, then the avenues for that market should be considered, while remembering the market place is both fluid and dynamic.

      When a stream dries up is gets dusty and those critters like reptiles and insects take over. Yet, suddenly it rains cats and dogs, the stream becomes a raging overflow of turbulence, and oddly it not only feeds the barren desert with the opportunity of life, it evens cuts a new path with growth. Maybe it widens here and there, or an embankment tumbles with the force of change, and who knows a pond or lake just may form.

      I feel as many change is challenging. Yet, reviewing that link I see a future. The plan is there and professionally composed. As a budding entrepreneur with limitations - funds for investment, time for development, and effort of research I ponder. Could I just peruse that site and discover both worth and value within today's marketplace generating revenue to keep the do0rs open for my Ma and Pa business by only reading what is there?

      You have pointed out very eloquently the changes in the genre of music, yet with that I share I learned most marketing concepts from Gene Simmons of KISS fame. The TV show Family Jewels says it as eloquently as this article I just read authored by 'Bard of Ely.' Wasn't that a great movie - 'the book of Eli?'

      I still remember the episode where Gene was in a crunch for time and needed a marketing concept for his enterprise. He danced over to a community college class, offered payment for a service as a scholarship, presented the opportunity of assigning recognition to the budding student, which bloomed with a smile when discovering he not only won, yet received a monetary value, and Gene capitalized on it.

      His presentation to the client was received with glee and its fruition came to light in the marketplace netting who knows how much. And, that was a lesson in marketing that lasted what a half hour. And, its cost to me? A diet soda, a bag of popcorn, and honestly maybe a cigarette.

      Yet, what is the returns of the half hour investment? Who really knows, since the internet is a really, really big place. I mean how many people will read this interaction between fellow hubbers at the social level and take it to the market place?

      Questions come to mind. Who will capitalize on the investment of the article you shared? Who will capitalize on the investment of this reply? Who will capitalize on social interaction of us two? Who will look at that link? What change will occur as a result?

      Yes, 'Bard of Ely' this author as you seeks to dare. Shall I post this comment? Do I as you in an arena of social interaction where all is laid bare to be scrutinized, reacted to with emotions and feelings, seek only those and miss the opportunity we just 'shared?'

      I ponder while heading to another hub to read. I seek the doors of opportunity, the widows of change, and then share. If the fellow hubbers of this land are not successful as a whole, well logic says there won't be a hubpages. I use to collect and sell shotguns. Odd, they were worth more as parts some ten years after, (is that the name of a song?)

      Sometimes it just takes time. Yet the principle of reduce - reuse - recycle seems to pay. Or, those $300 investment for each gauge - 28, 20, 12 would not have become $1500 + or the realization of a net gain of $1200. Ponder, why do the great bands still do concerts with the songs that paid then, now, which were classics?

      Well, thank you 'Bard of Ely' for capitalizing with the input at the forums. I would rather invest a bit and a byte with comment at well written hub, laced with brilliance, and a ton of good advice by the author, 'Bard of Ely.'

      I usually read, vote, offer an accolade, yet I felt this 'hub' offers opportunity to hubbers. Yeah, I'm an opportunist too, seems I learned that from 'Gene Simmons and KISS.' However, I bow in respect knowing just 'who' without guessing is the true author of this wonderful discovery - 'Bard of Ely!' Inspirational.

      Thank YOU!


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      Steve Andrews 

      6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

      Thanks for your comments, Randy! I understand your feelings on this. The joy I once had in writing here has gone but I am sticking around and still writing hubs as you can see!

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      Randy Godwin 

      6 years ago from Southern Georgia

      Possibly a very helpful list of things TO write about here. Unfortunately, none of them strikes my fancy enough to write something in HOPES of them being not idled shortly after being published. I believe I will just wait until HP comes to their senses or hell freezes over instead. It is a bit chilly this morning. LOL!



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