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Just Who are the Cornish? English, or not?

Updated on November 23, 2015
Parade in Cornwall with Cornish flag - black with white cross.
Parade in Cornwall with Cornish flag - black with white cross. | Source
Present Cornish sentiment
Present Cornish sentiment | Source

Recently, I unknowingly started a huge controversy on Facebook when an article I wrote and posted located Cornwall in England. Well, what a firestorm that created. Many native Cornish took offense and felt I had insulted them by writing that.

In my naivete, I never knew that some Cornish harbor a great dislike towards England and even today see the English government as an oppressor. They assert they are British but not English and they claim they are not part of England but of Britain.

They say there has never been a referendum for the Cornish to choose to be part of England. Of course, my point is they have never had a referendum to vote for independence either.

But, as I learned, their arguments for being a separate, independent nation of their own are more traditional, cultural, and linguistic.

Now, I will admit my interest and knowledge of Cornwall I have learned partly from the PBS show Doc Martin. This British show is filmed at Port Issac a beautiful and picturesque western seaside village in Cornwall. I enjoy the quirky, comical, and interesting characters of Port Wenn ( the town is renamed for the TV show).

The Cornish coastline has a rugged, rocky beauty to it which I have always wanted to visit and to see all of Cornwall.

My other source of interest and knowledge of Cornwall is again the current PBS Masterpiece production of Poldark. I have read all twelve Poldark novels, written by Winston Graham which I highly recommend. He gives quite a spectacular view of the rugged life in Cornwall during the 18th and early 19th century. And, the PBS show is quite well adapted and follows the novels well.

Also, Daphne du Maurier's novel, Jamaica Inn, also takes place in Cornwall in the 18th century. It is a thriller novel of piracy and smuggling on the Cornish coast, something well known in the history of Cornwall.

Needless to say, I decided I needed to research Cornwall and the Cornish people, especially since they have such a strong and passionate Celtic history, and to add this to my other articles about the Celts.

So here goes.

Cornwall is known for its beautiful golden beaches and rocky shore.
Cornwall is known for its beautiful golden beaches and rocky shore. | Source
Cornwall (in red) located in south-west Great Britain.
Cornwall (in red) located in south-west Great Britain. | Source
Labyrinth - Celtic rock carving at Rocky Valley, Cornwell.
Labyrinth - Celtic rock carving at Rocky Valley, Cornwell. | Source
Celtic tribes in south and west Britain before the Roman conquest.
Celtic tribes in south and west Britain before the Roman conquest. | Source

Celtic Cornwall

The Ancient Celts of Kernow

First, Cornwall is known by its Celtic name, Kernow and the Cornish language is known as Kernowek. The Cornish people are known as Kernowyon.

The Cornish (Kernowyon) are an ethic group of people associated with Cornwall. It is located in south-western Great Britain, and Cornwall is administered as part of England.

Cornwall represents an ethnic group with in the UK which can trace its roots to other ancient Britions who inhabited south and central Great Britain before the Roman conquest in 43 AD

Some in Cornwall continue to assert they are a distinct identity, separately or in addition to British identities.

Cornwall is the smallest of six modern Celtic nations.

These three are known as the Goidelic Celts as each speaks a form of Gaelic.

  • Irish
  • Manx
  • Scots

These three are known as the Brythonic Celts and each speaks a form of the Brythonnic language.

  • Welsh
  • Bretons
  • Cornish

Both Celtic languages belong to the Indo-European language group and of the Insular Celtic sub-group of languages. The Gaelic languages come from the Q-celtic group and the Brythonic languages are from the P-celtic group.

The ancient Celts began to invade Britain in the first millennium BC and the height of their culture was during the late Bronze and Iron Age. At the time of the Roman conquest of Britannia in 43 AD Britain was Brittonic or British speaking

The Romans settled mainly in southeast Britain, stopping at Exeter and leaving Cornwall more or less untouched.

The Dummnovii and Cornovii are the two Celtic tribes who inhabited Kernow or what today is known as Cornwall. The named Cornwall and Cornish are derived from the Celtic Cornovii tribe.

By the 5th and 6th century, the migration of the Saxons caused large groups of Brythonic Celts to migrate to Europe, calling their new home Brittany (France).Their language at the time of migration was exactly the same as Cornish and Welsh.

The remaining British Celts, also called Britons, occupied western Britain from Cornwall and Dover. Their settlements also extended to Wales.

Approximately two centuries later, the Celts were defeated by the English at the Battle of Winwald Field in 655 AD. This was the last time the Britons or Celts seriously contended with the English for supremacy in Britain.

At this time, the Celts split into several groups and separated from one another. The Celts driven into the mountainous western peninsula became Welsh and their country Wales, or what it was known by at that time, Cymru.

The Celtic groups of south-west Britain, the Celts of Devon and Cornwall, united to form the kingdom of Dumnonia but the eastern border was weak and the Saxons began to move into Devon.

Within a few years Dumnonia fell and the Celts were confined to the kingdom of Kernow which the English called Cornwall. The geographical separation of the Briton Celts caused differentiation in their languages and thus came about the Welsh and Cornish languages, and these two languages are similar but at the same time also distinctly different.

Cornwall today.
Cornwall today. | Source
St. Michael's Mount at Marazion in Cornwall.
St. Michael's Mount at Marazion in Cornwall. | Source
Celtic cross along Tregurnow Cliff down to Lamoma Cove in Cornwall
Celtic cross along Tregurnow Cliff down to Lamoma Cove in Cornwall | Source
Medieval Cornish literature.  Opening verses of Origo Mundi, written by an unknown  monk.
Medieval Cornish literature. Opening verses of Origo Mundi, written by an unknown monk. | Source
The loss of the Cornish language throughout Cornwall over the years from 1300 to 1750
The loss of the Cornish language throughout Cornwall over the years from 1300 to 1750 | Source
Prince Charles, current Duke of Cornwall.
Prince Charles, current Duke of Cornwall. | Source
 Tin mine in Cornwall.
Tin mine in Cornwall. | Source

Medieval and Modern Kernow periods

Five hundred years ago, throughout medieval and early modern periods in the history of Cornwall, the people of Cornwall were generally agreed, both by themselves and by their English neighbors, to be a distinctive people or "race."

Physical isolation provides the key to Cornish history. Cornwall is a rocky peninsula jutting some ninety miles into the Atlantic Ocean and is located on the extreme south-west corner of the British Isles. It is also severed from the adjoining English lands to the east by the Tamar River which runs almost from sea to sea.

An independent British polity was established in Cornwall following the collapse of Roman rule in Britain. They defended themselves against Saxon migration for approximately one hundred years. Not until 838 AD were the western Britons finally subdued. But, for many centuries after this, Cornwall retained many of the marks of a separate country.

King Athelstan of England in 936 AD determined the Tamar River to be the formal boundary between the western Saxons and the Cornish. Today, the Cornish still honor this cultural boundary.

Cornwall became one of the last retreats of the Britons encouraging a development of a distinct Cornish identity.

With the Norman invasion of England in 1066 AD much of the lands owned by the Anglo-Saxons were transferred to the Norman nobles and royalty. The same happened with Cornish lands. They also were transferred into the hands of the Normans and many of the Cornish place names were changed.

Some time during the 10th century Cornwall was definitely incorporated into the Kingdom of England. Today, the Cornish say that that incorporation was done without their permission or acknowledgement and do not consider themselves English, but Cornish.

Technically, medieval Cornwall was an English county just like any other English county, but the culture of Cornish people remained entirely different from that of their English neighbors.

And, the people still spoke Cornish a Brythonic language closely allied with Welsh. The Cornish prided themselves, as they do today, on being descended from Briton ancestors rather than Saxon ones.

As late as the mid-16th century, the Cornish still possessed their own styles of dress, their own folklore, their own naming customs, their own agricultural practices and their own games and pastimes.

In addition, the English Crown established two specific administrative institutions in Cornwall:

  • The Duchy of Cornwall
  • The Stannary organization which oversaw the local tin mining industry.

This made it easy for ordinary Cornish people to believe they had been granted a unique constitutional status to reflect their unique cultural identity.

Throughout the early modern period in Britain, many Cornish people continued to regard Cornwall not as an English county, but as a British country called Kernow. Even foreign observers and visitors saw things in very much the same way.

However, between 1485 (the Tudor Dynasty) and 1700, the Cornish were gradually absorbed into the mainstream of English life. During the Tudor period, Cornwall was commonly regarded as almost a separate country and the Cornish were commonly regarded as a separate ethnic group.

By 1700, however, no one accepted that the Cornish were a separate ethnic group and saw them as a part of England and therefore, English. By this time, the Cornish had been fully assimilated into English life.

How did this happen? It was because of the decline of the Cornish language, which was the central badge of Cornish ethnic identity.

In 1549, England's Edward VI's Protestant government decreed that the familiar Church's Latin liturgy be replaced with a new Book of Prayer written in English.

A huge rebellion broke out in western Cornwall because Cornish anger had been roused as they felt the English Book of Prayer was an assault on the traditional Church that had been supportive of their ancient language and culture. The rebellion was crushed with the slaughter of three to four thousand western Cornish men.

The English Book of Prayer was never translated into Cornish so this also helped to enforce English over Cornish as their language.

By the 1640's the Cornish language was restricted to the far west of the Cornish peninsula. At this time, Cornwall declared its allegiance to Charles I because he was regarded as a British monarch not an English one. Sadly, Charles was defeated in 1646 and this was another blow for traditional Cornish. Again, the Cornish soldiers fighting for Charles were slaughtered. Therefore, both the Cornish language and the Cornish sense of ethnic identity faded out fast.

The English industrial revolution was a major impact upon the Cornish people as well. Cornwall's economy was fully integrated into England's and mining in Cornwall experienced a process of industrialization resulting in 30% of Cornwall's adult population employed in the mines.

From this point in history until the 20th century, Cornwall was known as a county in England and English was the first language of the county as traditional Cornish had died out.

Cornwall is not England

The Union Jack and the Cornwall flag.
The Union Jack and the Cornwall flag. | Source
Pastys, a favorite food of Cornwall.  Small pastry pies filled with meat and vegetables.
Pastys, a favorite food of Cornwall. Small pastry pies filled with meat and vegetables. | Source
2010 general election.  Cornwall  has six parliamentary constituencies.
2010 general election. Cornwall has six parliamentary constituencies. | Source

Cornwall Today

Cornish ancestry is descended from the Cornovii Celts, of the Dumnonia kingdom, making them distinct from the English, who are many, but not all of whom are descended from the Anglo-Saxons who migrated to Great Britain.

The research of Professor Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford University shows genetic evidence of the people of Great Britain share a common ancestry with the Basque people from Basque region by the Pyrenees (today, Spain).

The arrival of the Celts from the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal) are the origin of Britain's and Ireland's Celtic tribes.

Another study of the Cornish by Sir Walter Bodmer showed that the Cornish people have a particular varient of the Melancortin 1 receptor gene identifying them as Celts more closely related to the Welsh than the English.

The theory proposed today is that the Cornish are a relic population tracing their ancestry back to the tribes that colonized Britain after the last Ice Age ten thousand years ago.

The Cornish and Welsh are the most ancient of Britons and most genetically distinct of all the groups on mainland Briton.

A study by Peter Donnelly, professor of statistical science at Oxford University and director of the Wellcome trust centre for human genetics has confirmed the distinctiveness of the people of Cornwall. "The people of . . . Cornwall are different from the rest of the south and central England.

Colin Murley, campaigner for Cornish independence has said, "Cornwall has always been different and has always been treated differently throughout history. What we have here is proof that the Cornish are different."

Donnelly and his researchers analyzed the difference at 500,000 points in the DNA of 2,000 Cornish people. Only people in rural areas were included and had to have all four grandparents born in the same area.

The University of Exeter, in 2008, conducted a study in sixteen towns across Cornwall and found that 59% felt themselves Cornish and 41% felt "more Cornish than English." Over one-third of respondents believed the Cornish identity formed their primary national identity.

Genealogy and family history were considered to be the chief criteria for "being" Cornish while being born in Cornwall was also held as important.

In their 2010 study Exeter again conducted its study among the farming community because they believed they were the professional group to best represent Cornishness. All the participants in this study categorized themselves a Cornish and identified Cornish as their primary ethnic group orientation. Those in the west of Cornwall described themselves as Cornish and British/Celtic. Those in east Cornwall described themselves as Cornish and English.

The study found that ancestry was seen as the most important criterion for being categorized as Cornish above place of birth or growing up in Cornwall.

Since 2006, school children in Cornwall have been able to record themselves as ethnically Cornish on annual schools census (PLASC)

However in 1974, Cornwall, by the Local Government Act of 1972, became a non-metropolitan county which included it under the heading of England.

Cornwall currently is part of the political unit "England and Wales" but many of the Cornish natives advocate devolution or independence for Cornwall.

Stephen Leslie conducted a study of the Cornish people in March 2015 and confirmed that the Cornish people are distinct from the the people living in the nearby English county of Devon.

Professor Simon Myers of Oxford University has found in his study that the distinguishing factors between the Cornish and the English was the level of Anglo-Saxon DNA in the east of England. He found the Anglo-Saxon DNA contributions were between 10-40% in the east, while in Cornwall they were half that level.

Geographic and historical factors distinguished the Cornish as an ethnic group. Since the 20th century Cornish and Celtic associations have advanced the notion of a distinct Cornish national and ethnic identity.

The Cornish language was granted official recognition under the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages in 2002. And in 2014, the Cornish people were recognized and afforded protection by the UK government under the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities.

  • The Cornish are afforded the same protections as the Welsh, Scottish, and Irish languages.
  • The government departments and public bodies will be required to take Cornwall's views into account when making decisions.
  • It ensures that the rights of national minorities are respected by combating discrimination, promoting equality and preserving and developing the culture and identity of national minorities.
  • The status does not attract extra money.

The Cornish self-government movement has called for greater recognition of Cornish culture, politics, and language and urged that the Cornish people to be accorded greater status by putting Cornish as one of the listed ethnic groups in the UK census, the most recent being the 2011 form.

The Cornish alphabet and pronunciation chart.
The Cornish alphabet and pronunciation chart. | Source
Manuscript of Beunans Meriasek, the Life of St. Meriasek- f.56v.  Middle Cornish Saint's play.
Manuscript of Beunans Meriasek, the Life of St. Meriasek- f.56v. Middle Cornish Saint's play. | Source
Cornish inn in Cornwall with written modern Cornish
Cornish inn in Cornwall with written modern Cornish | Source

The Cornish Language

Today, the Cornish language, or Kernewek, is spoken in Cornwall by about 300 fluent speakers and many more have some knowledge of the language.

The Cornish Language Partnership is the official body for promotion and development for reviving Kernewk in Cornwall.

By the end of the 19th century, Cornish disappeared from everyday use and the last native Cornish speaker was probably John Davey of Zenner who died 1891. From this point the Cornish language became nearly extinct.

However, Henry James (1848-1934) was the first person to revive the Cornish language. In 1904 he published his Handbook of the Cornish Language, an introductory textbook.

Jenner's work was continued by Robert Morton Nance (1873-1959). He published his work in his book, Cornish for All which advocated his Unified Cornish (Kernewek Unys).

By the 1980"s there were an increasing number of Cornish who became interested in learning the Cornish language. In 1984, Professor Glanville Price published is book, The Languages of Britain, and in his book severely criticized Unified Cornish.

Celtic scholars and linguists decided to adopt a new form of Cornish devised by Dr. Ken George. His system is called Common Cornish (Kernewek Kemmyn)

Over the years, scholars have updated Cornish by promoting versions of the language known as Modern Cornish.

The Cornish Language Council was set up in 1986 to promote Modern Cornish and encourage the study of Cornish. Modern Cornish is the most popular form spoken today.

Today, some Cornish families are bringing up their children with Cornish as their first language. The Cornish language is presently taught in some schools in Cornwall and at the University of Exeter.

There are a number of magazines that are written in Cornish. BBC Radio Cornwall have regular news broadcasts in Cornish. Several local newspapers print articles in Cornish.

In 2010, the bilingual Cornish/English creche or Skol dy' Sadforn Kernewek, (a Cornish Saturday School) was set up for children and their parents to learn Cornish.

Children between the ages of two to five are in an immersed Cornish class in one room and parents learn Cornish in another room.

Therefore, the Cornish language lives again!

The Question

Well, I have come full circle on this subject, and I have learned that the Cornish people have a fierce pride and passionate attachment to their homeland.

So, is Cornwall located in England and are the Cornish people Cornish or English? I have to say the answer to this question is whatever the Cornish people say it is.


The Story of the Cornish Language. printed in Cornwall by H.E. Warne Ltd., St. Austell for the publishers Lar Mark Press

Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly


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    • suzettenaples profile imageAUTHOR

      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Glad to hear you have eaten pastys and enjoy them. I would love to sample one one day in Cornwall one day. Glad to hear the culture and food of Cornwall made it over to Australia

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      Bronwen Scott-Branagan 

      5 years ago from Victoria, Australia

      They taste delicious, too. Once when I visited relatives there, while we were out sight-seeing, my cousin's father stayed at home - and at 96 years of age made pasties that greeted us on our return - and extended over each side of our plates!

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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Yes, the pastys are their version of a Spanish empanada. I agree they do look delicious. So glad you enjoyed reading this.

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      Dianna Mendez 

      5 years ago

      Those pastys look very much like the Spanish empanada. I'm sure they are quite tasty. I'm sure have answered questions for those interested in this history. Very interesting to read.

    • suzettenaples profile imageAUTHOR

      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Hi Blossom! I am so glad you enjoyed reading this. Yes, one must tread lightly when refering to Cornwall's origins. I call it part of Britain instead of England and the Cornish seem to accept that. I am so glad to hear you are keeping your Cornish roots alive in Australia. It sounds like you enjoy yourself with your Cornish friends and groups. I am so glad you read this and I have enjoyed your comments.

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      Bronwen Scott-Branagan 

      5 years ago from Victoria, Australia

      Why haven't I found this great article before? It's so good! I once - only once, though, made the mistake of addressing a letter to a Cornish cousin as the Duchy being in England and was soon told of it. Although I'm third generation born in Australia, I still lay claim to my Cornish (Mother) and Welsh (Father) antecedents. I am a member of the 'Cornish Association of Victoria', we meet monthly, have great speakers, an excellent library, and even have a Cornish Language Group that meets separately as well. Each State has its own Cornish group, and a number of country towns also have groups that do all sorts of interesting things together. You have researched this so well! I wrote about the language background in one of my books - 'St. Paul's Letter to the Celts' (his Letter to the Galatians).

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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Kim, I am so glad you enjoyed reading this. Port Issac looks so beautiful which I have only seen from the Doc Martin shows. Yes, a girl's trip to Port Issac is exactly what we need to do. Hugs, Suzette

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      5 years ago from North Carolina


      Absolutely fascinating read and filled with obvious research. Your desire to unravel such is mind-blowing; yet, you do so with such ease. Thank you for this most informative read. Please take me with you to Port Issac. Thank you for introducing me to Doc Martin.



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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      lawrence: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you also. I am so pleased you enjoyed reading this. Yes, I found out that the Cornish do not want to be called English or called part of England. It was quite the historical lesson for me. I didn't realize they only recognize the ancient borders to their land and not the modern border of England. I do know that the Cornish claim the King Arthur legend as true, but then so do the Welsh and the Bretons. From now on I refer to any one from the UK as British as that seems the safest way not to offend anyone. lol! Thanks so much for stopping by and I enjoyed your input.

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      Lawrence Hebb 

      5 years ago from Hamilton, New Zealand


      Really loved this article. As an Englishman I've learned to be careful as to whom I call English!!

      We folks from the British Isles love our homeland and we like to be known as British, but calling them English doesn't always go down too well!

      Did you know that the Legend of King Arthur is Cornish in origin? and it probably relates to a Cornish king who drove the Saxons back in the late fifth century! He almost unified the land but was killed in battle!

      Merry Christmas


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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Audrey: So glad you read this and enjoyed it. Thanks for stopping by.

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      Audrey Howitt 

      5 years ago from California

      Such an interesting hub! Beautifully penned!!

    • suzettenaples profile imageAUTHOR

      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Genna; Thanks so much for stopping by to read this. Yes, we do think of British and English as the same and they are definitely not! So I found out. lol!

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      Genna East 

      5 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      We yanks often associate being "British" is the same as being "English." Thank you for this interesting journey into the history of Cornwall, and the Celts. Superbly crafted. :-)

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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Hi Maria: Thanks so much for reading this and I am glad you enjoyed this. I did not know about the distinction either until I wrote this. Happy Thanksgiving!

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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Hi Mike: I guess I have always thought there would be no tree or leaves to begin with without the roots. All parts of the tree are equally important to me. Thanks for reading this and a very Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!

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      Maria Jordan 

      5 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

      Dear Suzette,

      How fascinating this hub is...and I enjoyed learning the details behind the distinction of those living in Cornwall.

      Wishing you and your family a peaceful and blessed Thanksgiving. Hugs, Maria

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      5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

      Happy Thanksgiving Suzette. Interesting article. I think, as with trees, the beauty and integrity of a people is in the branches and leaves that we can see and not in the roots.

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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Devika: Thanks so much for reading this and I'm glad you enjoyed it. This was quite a learning curve for me also. LOL!

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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Jodah: Thank you for reading my article and I am pleased you enjoyed it. I learned a lot about the Cornish/Kernowyon people from my own research lol. I think Cornwall is beautiful and Port Issac where they shoot Doc Martin just beautiful and quaint. I'd love to live there myself.

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      Suzette Walker 

      5 years ago from Taos, NM

      Nell: I am so glad you enjoyed reading this. I stirred of a storm on Facebook, that is why I wrote this article. I found such contradictory information on the topic and I tried to convey that in the article. Well, I was going by the research which said that the Saxons drove many Britons west and that is why we have Cornwall and Wales. It is also why we have Brittany, France. Many Britons migrated there rather than stay in Briton with the Saxons. That is also why I wrote the article the Britons of England. I believe that England has a strong Celtic heritage because of Boudicca, the Inceni tribe and the Trinovantic tribe. I will say it is hard to write these articles because there is so much contradictory information out there. But, I wanted to research my own Celtic heritage and I found out I am even more Celtic that I thought. So I am right in there with you Nell. I hope one day to get back to England so I can really look into the Celtic part of my life.

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      Devika Primić 

      5 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      I enjoyed this learning lesson. Often take for granted and now I know more from you. thank you.

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      Martie Coetser 

      5 years ago from South Africa

      Very-very interesting, thank you, Suzette :)

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      John Hansen 

      5 years ago from Gondwana Land

      Wonderfully interesting and educational hub. I too have an interest in Cornwall mainly due to Doc Martin. The coastal scenery is amazing. Thank you for this history lesson and interesting insight into the Kernowyon people.

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      Nell Rose 

      5 years ago from England

      Well done Suzette! Wow! what a great hub, and so interesting! I live in the south, and yes many Cornish have stated they are seperate from us but I didn't really know why. sadly a lot of Cornwall has been sold up and many from around the world or even other parts of England have moved there, they are losing their identity.

      The one thing that I would like to see though is the fact that we in the South are as much Celtic if not more than the rest of England, especially Scotland, and Ireland, which are Gaelic. We in the South come from Boudicca's tribe and trinovantics, I believe, its a myth that the saxons and french took over the whole of the South, there were less than a hundred each, most of us back then were still from the Celtic, can you do that for us? take a look and find out, now that would be awesome, lol! (no pressure)! LOL! great hub! shared, nell


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