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Not all Teachers deserve to be called a Teacher

Updated on March 6, 2011

Just got me thinking

The discussion of Teachers in the news has got me thinking about my own schooling.  I came from a time when if you got in trouble at school it was up to the Teacher to dish out the punishment.  He/She could either send a note home to your parents (God forbid!) or take matters into their own hands and give you the whack you probably deserved.  After thinking it over a bit, I am not sure that all teachers deserve to have that title of ‘Teacher’.

As I think back on my schooling some of the names may escape me, but of course there are those who will always remain somewhere, mulling around within my gray matter.  

Kindergarten thru 5th grade

Kindergarten - Honestly I don’t remember the names, since I moved during that year (my Mom and Dad got married and we bought a new house) but what I do remember was making a drawing of a sailboat and showing off for a boy.  I could make noise with my pencil hitting the paper, I hit it too hard and the pencil went through the paper.  Yep, I got in trouble and my Mom got told.  I never did that again.

1st grade - Not a clue, there is nothing that I can recall about this teacher or class.  Apparently nothing traumatic happened.

2nd grade - We moved again and into a new school I went.  Mrs. Poole was her name.  There are 3 things that stand out with her.  Her daughter was allergic to chocolate so when we brought candy for our own birthdays (to celebrate) we had to bring her daughter a full size Payday, everyone else got mini candies.  

The second thing, she wouldn’t recognize my hand was up and that I needed to use the bathroom, so I ended up puking on my desk.  Afterwards I got yelled at for doing so, she said I should have known better.

Mom and Dad had gotten some new checks so they gave me the old ones to play with, I ended up writing checks for gazillion’s of  dollars to my friends.  Apparently when you write illegibly and in pencil it is taken seriously.  She called my Mom and I got in trouble for that as well.  

3rd grade - Mrs. Vander Ark - She was something else.  She was pretty and had long blond hair, with an extreme zest for life!  We got to take breaks and do some exercises during class.  That was the year I learned cursive (writing rather than printing).  She made learning loads of fun!  I only got in trouble once in that class for biting another student.  Hey, he was choking me!!

4th grade - Mrs. Wickerham - She was my Mrs. Edleson (Men in Black).  She had red hair, always in an up-do.  She taught me math, and was darned good at it!  I only got smacked on the behind one time in her class.  That was for laying across my desk.  (I probably shouldn’t have done that)

5th grade - Mr. Telnesof - He was my first man teacher and he was fairly young, with a great love for teaching.  He encouraged us to do our best.  I was close to the #1 spot for spelling in his class, me and Debbie ‘whatshername’ were always fighting for that top spot.  It was this year that he was supposed to discuss reproduction with us.  He put it off as long as he could, and before I could learn it we moved.  By the time I got to my new school they had already discussed it.  

last of 5th - 6th - 7th grade at a new school

I was in for something different with my new school, I didn’t have just 1 teacher I had 3.  Honestly I don’t remember any of their names, but I do remember getting my first whack.  We were told to be quiet, Lori refused to quit whispering to me and I had to loudly tell her to be quiet.  I got the whack.  Yeah, that REALLY hurt.  

For those of you who may be wondering just what a ‘whack’ is let me explain.  The teacher must have made friends in woodshop because they got these specially ordered paddles that were about 15 inches long (plus handle) and 8 inches wide with holes drilled throughout.  The holes apparently let air through so the teacher could get in a good swing when they made direct connection with the behind of the receiver, who was by the way, standing with legs spread apart with hands against the lockers.  

6th - 7th grade - In these grades we had many teachers for different subjects and those changed at the half year mark.  Mrs. Keyser (math) I remember her clearly because A.) she gave me my 2nd and final whack.  She did not believe in having you stand against the lockers, she felt to get the best effect one MUST bend over and grab their ankles and this must be done in front of the entire class.  That day I wore a short mini-dress.  And yes, to all who wonder, I did deserve it.  Mark this in your calendar because I am admitting it in writing.  Terry Young, I did attempt to look at your answers!  I never repeated that behavior.  She did make a concession because of the dress, she took me in the hallway where only one boy got to see my underpants, as he was walking down the hall.

B.) She took a lot of medications and had to sleep on pillows to keep her ulcers from acting up.

Mr. Scott - English.  He had us read book reports aloud in front of the class.  If you laughed or made fun of someone, he called you out and you got into trouble.  Way to Go Mr. Scott!!  He eventually ran for House of Representatives in our State and made it.  

Mrs. Bearup - Science.  She was fairly young and had a great love of science.  We got to watch her do experiments.  It was in this class that I learned what morning sickness was, well sort of.  A couple of the girls Kelly and Denise were talking about someone who had morning sickness, I (having missed out on the reproduction class) wanted to know what that meant.  The stunned look on their faces told me it was ’something big’, but like the good girls they are, they said “you’d better ask your mother”.  So I did, she told me.

Gym class - Heck, I don’t remember her name.  I was made to do a flip on the trampoline, I was knocked unconscious.  Ended up with a headache for days.  It was either do the flip or fail the class.  Shortly there after I was doing flips on the mat and broke my baby toe.  Kevin, thanks for the shoulder helping me to the office.  I’m sorry I knocked you in the forehead with my elbow as I was putting my arm around your shoulder.  Dad, now you know why I almost failed Gym class in the 11th grade.  I just wasn’t any good at it!

Mr. Falkenstein -  Math - The name struck fear into the hearts of boys and girls alike when they discovered he was to be their teacher.  The girls because he hated us, all of us.  He felt that any girl child born should be drown at birth, flushed down the toilet.  If you were a girl it was guaranteed that you would be assigned to write sentences, just because you were breathing.  The boys who sat at different tables than the girls had fear too.  They were afraid he would kiss them.  Yes, he would go up to them and cuddle and try to kiss them.  He was short with long gray streaked greasy hair.  He looked like he never bathed.

8th and 9th grade at the Round School

In the summer between these 2 years, I lost one of my best friends to a car accident.  Penny Shire.  She was quiet and shy, but very beautiful with long blond hair.  Her Father also perished in the accident.  There were 5 of us who ‘hung out’ together so my mom and I took 5 white roses to the funeral home.  This was the second death that I had experienced of someone I was close with, my Grandma being the first.

8th grade - To a new school this was called ‘the round school’ because well, it was round.  Each class was sectioned off like a piece of pie, with the gym in the middle which was divided by a curtain to separate the boys from the girls. 

Ms. Sedge - Gym class  This class we learned to do many things, including square dancing.  Ricky was the best boy to dance with, he wasn’t afraid and didn’t think it was dumb.  We learned to play crab soccer with the big ball, tons of calisthenics.  For those of you who were wondering, in the 9th grade when we had to do a couple weeks of exercises and nothing else because of the ’smoking’ in the bathroom.  Yes, it was me, only I wasn’t smoking (no, really).  For some dumb reason I went into the stall and found a wooden match, like an idiot I lit it.  Then realized as soon as I did what I had done, I dropped it in the toilet.  I so much wanted to admit it!   But we all know she wouldn’t believe I wasn’t smoking.

Mrs. Sallay - English - This teacher was something else!  She was upbeat fun, had a love of teaching.  Very pretty and had what seemed like a year round tan.  She was going to Jamaica for Easter Break to work on her tan some more.  We wrote a lot of essays in her class that year.

Mrs. Atwood - science - She made science fun, did lots of experiments in her class.  We learned how to burn sugar, record the temps etc.   We got to dissect an Earthworm and discuss how many hearts they have and the fact that worms do not need a mate to reproduce.   

Art class - I don’t remember her name, but I do remember that she discovered I might have just a bit of artistic talent.  I drew my thumb and part of my hand and ended up making a copper tooling of this.  I still have it.  In her class we almost had free reign to do what we wished.  She gave us a basic idea and let us run with whatever talent we possessed.

9th grade - Mr. Goulds - Science.  He sat in the front of the class and discussed his love of racing and had pictures of all of his race cars somewhere in the room.  I failed his class.

Mrs. Hubbs - Home Ec.  - For the most part I knew more than this teacher, I could cook and sew with the best of them.  Because she was a ‘teacher’ I listened to her, when she told us that using mayonnaise or Vaseline would ’moisturize’ our hair.  My Dad has never let me live this down.  I used about half of a large tub of Vaseline (because of course Mom bought Miracle whip rather than Mayonnaise) slathering it all over my head, leaving it on for the recommended hour (according to Mrs. Hubbs) then proceeded to try to rinse it out.  Then I tried washing it out, using shampoo.  Then I tried using Tide Laundry detergent.  Then I tried using Palmolive Dish washing liquid.  When it became apparent that I used all of the hot water and still was left with a grease ball head, I begged to be allowed to stay home from school.  I was denied.  Luckily gym class was 3rd hour for me, I could pretend that I just took a shower.  All Mrs. Hubbs could say was “I’m sorry”.    Into the 2nd week of being an unofficial ‘greaser’ I found some Stanley degreaser under the kitchen counter.  That got it out.

Math - I refuse to remember his name just as he refused to use my name.  We spent most of the year arguing.  I did my best to get transferred out of his class, but was not allowed.  He smelled like cologne - covered poop all the time.  I asked him numerous times to use my name Susan rather than the shortened Sue version, he refused.  This was where I was supposed to learn pre-algebra, I failed his class.  When my college Professor explained to me (when asking a question) “this is something you should have learned in Pre-Algebra” this teacher’s face popped into my brain.  This class was where I learned that when you are a student, you are wrong - all the time.

Mrs. Lilly - English - At first I did great in this class, I sat near the teacher right next to Marilyn.  We yakked it up a lot.  Someone had to be moved so I was selected to be the one.  I was put all the way across the room in the corner, the furthest place from the teacher.  This was the year I was to learn Nouns, Pro-nouns, Verbs, Adverbs, Adjectives etc.  Because I was on the heavy side and she refused to come to the front of the rows to collect papers, mine rarely got turned in.  It would mean I had to walk in front of the entire class to turn in my papers.  She never once took me aside to ask me what was wrong or why my grades dropped drastically.  I failed Mrs. Lilly’s English class.

Ms. Sedge Gym - Once again I had her.  Because I had broken my arm at the end of the 8th grade it was weaker and I was afraid of breaking it again.  I passed her class with D’s.

My shame

There was another happening from that year that is a Hub into itself, when I can face my shame and share it with the world, it will be on here.

I failed the 9th grade miserably and completely.  But I was allowed to take summer school to make up the credits I lost and pass into the 10th grade.  There were a lot of us in those classes that summer.

Clio for 1 year

During the summer we sold our home, Dad decided we were going to build a house on some property he bought.  In the mean time we had to rent a place in the next town over.  Mr. Fuzi, the Principal, refused to let me attend my first year of high school with the rest of my class.  It was apparent that I could not contribute anything in the area of sports and my academics were something no one wanted to look at.  So it was a given that even if I moved in with Mr. Fuzi, he was going to refuse me.

10th Grade - At Clio - I knew I was only going to be spending 1 year here so I truly don’t remember the names of the teachers I had.  My English teacher was a man who was certainly in the wrong profession.  He wanted to be in films or photography, we got to watch movies in his class.  I remember ‘Cool Hand Luke’ and ‘Bonnie and Clyde’.

I took oceanography for my science class even though I needed math and was refused.  I passed that class with a C.  It was a new teaching concept, all done on cards, there were no books available for this class.  I took sewing/home ec and made a jump suit.  Typing was required in the 10th grade, I passed that class with a B.  Business machines was an elective that I took.  

I Aced Drivers Education that summer!

Back to my 'Home' school

11th Grade - Back to my home school, the one I would eventually graduate from.  

English - Ms. Tipton - Now here we had a teacher!  It became apparent to her early on in the year that I didn’t have a lick of sense.  She kept me after class and asked what was wrong, why my papers were bad.  I told her that I didn’t understand a thing she was talking about.  She asked how I passed 9th grade, then 10th grade.  When I explained what had happened she said “Let me think about what I can do”.  The next day came, she got everyone settled in to do their work and called me to the hall as she was pulling a desk.  She said this would be my place until I finished the work she gave me.  For the next 2 weeks I sat in the hallway doing ditto sheets.  If I had any questions all I had to do was knock, she was right there to help me out.  Yes, I got behind with the rest of the class, but she took me through 2 years of High School English in 2 weeks time.  Ms. Tipton, wherever you are, YOU ROCK!!

Ms. Hendrickson - 11th grade History.  Now here was a lady who could not only hang with the athletes, but she knew her History and she made it fun.  Our first day in class we had a pop quiz, 5 questions.  Name, date, the year, her name and the president’s name.  Yep, I got 100% on that!  Not everyone did.  When we read aloud in class one of my words was ‘extraterritoriality‘, when I read it without batting an eye, she praised me.   She did that with a lot of students, recognized something good in them and gave them praise.

Mr Husted - Gym - He was able to figure out that I was not a athletic type person but was required to take the class.  As long as I dressed for class he passed me with a D.  I did participate when we had 'free time', played hand ball and things like that.  When the other girls played softball he let me be his leaning post on the bench and we talked.

For the life of me I can’t remember the other classes I was required to take that year.  Obviously there was not that much of an impression.

12th grade - Due to my messing up in the 9th grade I had to take some required classes before I could graduate.  I was missing an English credit and a math credit.

Back to Ms. Tipton for English - YEAH!  She was a very hard grader and if you wanted a good grade, she was going to make you earn it.  It took me all year of hard work but I was finally able to earn an A-, we were both extremely pleased.

Mrs Bedoni - We didn’t quite see eye to eye most of the time.  She insisted that ALL women were not women unless they had a career.  I wanted nothing more than to be a wife and mother.  I hadn’t found my husband yet, but I’d work on it.  Because Ms. Tipton had taught me well, she couldn’t fail me because we disagreed, but my grades were less than they should have been.

Mr. Barry - Math - (first half of the year) His idea of teaching was “Do the odd number of problems in the book, only the odd, then check your answers in the back of the book.  He liked to sit at his desk and lean back tucking his hand down the front of his pants.

Mrs. DeCou - Secretarial class - This was a 2 hour class.  She liked to set me by her desk and chat.  Because we chatted so much I didn’t get any work done and my grades suffered.  I passed her class with a D.   I can properly fill out an application, I know how to shake hands, and dress for the job I am seeking, so I did learn something (actually a lot) in this class, my grades just didn’t prove it.

Independent Living - I cannot remember the teachers name but we did a lot of cooking in her class.  I learned how to balance a check book, do laundry, and the various other things that come with living on ones own.

Mr. Jean - Mrs. Cole - Government and Economics - Yeah, I still don’t get it. 

Can one learn after graduating?

I graduated 212 out of 255 students.  My GPA was 1.67, it stunk, no ifs ands or buts about it.  One would think that I didn’t learn a thing.  When I went to college 3 years later, my GPA was 3.5 but I was required to take a ‘basic math‘ class (0 + 0 = 0).  These teachers got paid whether you learned or not and really didn’t care one way or another.  At 3.5 GPA, you could say I did improve with age.

Is there hope for the future of Public School?

Now that I have taken you down my long path of memory lane, the question is;  Do the teachers deserve automatic raises?  Do they deserve a cheaper form of health care, compared to other workers ?  

Why isn’t it possible that rather than an ’across the board’ raise, the raises are based on merit?  I realize that hanging out with kids all day for 9 months out of the year can make a sane person go a little nutty.  I do not begrudge a person a raise, far from it.  What I am asking isn’t it possible to have the student take a test at the end of the year and if say 50% of the class fails, replace the teacher?  Possibly anonymous survey’s from students, parents and other teachers?  Maybe a combination of all of the above.  Somehow, some way monitor the teachers.

Shouldn’t teachers, who are responsible for the teaching of our children be required to have just a little more than a degree?  Maybe a little psychology thrown in for good measure, so when a child starts sliding down that slippery slope of being forgotten, they will notice.

Side note

Yes, I know I am going to make some of you mad when you read this, but please understand not all Teachers are Great. Not all Teachers have the ability to teach. Those that can't, shouldn't. To me Teaching is a very important profession and one that should not be entered into lightly. You can either make a great impact on a student or none at all.

One Day when I see my name in lights (or on a bookshelf) I want to give credit where credit is due. Ms Tipton, you get the very first dedication!

There were GREAT Teachers!

I cannot be the only person who has managed to graduate High School by the skin of their teeth (yeah dumb saying, I know).  I did have a couple of GREAT teachers, and of those if I could, I’d make sure they got triple the raises.  But for the most part my memories of the rest are nothing to write home about.  To me those teachers were there for the paycheck and nothing else.  They don’t deserve the distinction of being called a Teacher if they did not teach. They had other things on their agenda and my education was not part of it.


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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      Absolutely!! I believe in order to be a good teacher, one MUST have a love of it all...

      Thanks for stopping by!

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      MrGooseyMoose 7 years ago

      Wow, that was a really interesting story you explained, and a very important issue you raised! I completely agree, of course. It is not enough to know your subject - a teacher needs to care about the people they're teaching; they need that motivation to teach effectively and, in turn, they need to motivate those that they're teaching. Awesome stuff. =)

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      LOL, I'm not quite sure who Anty Victoria is!!

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      ekenzy 7 years ago

      this is true sometimes but not to put as a reference to Anty Victoria

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      LOL, Yes it is!! After it was finished I remembered a few other things, not important enough to put them in BUT ... I've NEVER worn a hat, they make my head sweat (VERY thick hair)... My mom always knew this. Mrs. Poole decided she needed to call my mom to 'tell on me'.. LOL

      I really did appreciate the Great ones though!

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      Cindy A. Johnson 7 years ago from Sevierville, TN

      What a great hub. As a teacher myself, I totally agree that there are some teachers who just shouldn't be teachers. Isn't it funny the things we remember?

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      Thanks, So glad you stopped by!

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      Bilalnr 7 years ago from Islamabad, Pakistan

      I agree with you Sweetsusieg!!!

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      LOL - So glad you liked it!! There were a couple that I couldn't remember, but remembered some of the happenings in that class... grrr... LOL Thank goodness for Ms. Tipton!!

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      Sharon 7 years ago

      You ROCK!! =) You have an awesome memory!! You took me down memory lane with some of those teachers...I COULDN'T remember their names to save my life! LOL Thank Goodness for Mrs. Tipton for instilling the writing bug in you! I thoroughly enjoyed...

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      I would assume that would be a bad thing! So sorry to hear that Dave. Somewhere along the line you had to have had a good teacher.... You can read and write and probably do Arithmetic!!

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      Dave Mathews 7 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

      I can only remember one teacher from my past, and that teacher I have been trying not to remember but do.

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      Yes, I'm afraid that is what it seems to be coming to, parents who care want the best for their child, home schooling. I think that it is possible (just hear me out, giving the benefit of the doubt here) the out of frustration teachers are taking it out on the only people who will listen, the parents who care.

      We have entirely too many parents who give birth, then say well I've done my job, let the world take over. The teachers of those kids begin to realize it's pointless to even try to talk to the parents.

      My friend has a daughter who has Asperger's. Her teacher told her to stand by the wall during recess (she was getting into trouble) we live in Michigan and it was winter. The child did as she was told, 2 hours later the teacher asked the class where she was. Her mother now home schools her. Though it was not the first incident, it was the final straw for this Mom.

      Thanks for stopping by!

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      Christine P Ann 7 years ago from Australia

      Oh boy! what an awesome memory you have. Reading your hub has sparked some memories of my own school days and I realise sadly how different my schooling was to my daughters. I agree with you that not all teachers are worthy of the title as too many of them are more interested in passing on their beliefs whether it be political,historical,sexual and even basic morals. I had several run-ins with my daughters teachers over the years because they were pushing their personal beliefs to the class and in the end I withdrew her from the system and home schooled her. It was a challenge but worth it in the end. Good hub

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      A Lillygrillzit - Oh boy were some of them mean!! LOL Could imagine what might have happened if Einstein had been recognized as the wonder kid? He might not have gotten as far as he did!! LOL Sometimes those children who give the worst to their teachers end up being the best. I wish that teachers were invited to the reunions as well! Maybe I'd better re-think that, I can't see anyone welcoming Mr. Falkenstein...

      Maybe their disdain for me caused me to push myself even harder to quietly prove to them they were wrong. Well, I'm not really quiet anymore!!

      Thanks so much for stopping by!

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      @ drbj - My mother used to think I was making up or listening to others what I remembered until one day I told her a memory that I had. As I finished she was quite astounded and said "But, that is impossible, you were only 2 at the time"! I was all by myself when this memory occurred, she was sound sleep. I think it must have been because it was fairly traumatic at the time and sort of 'burned' into my brain. I had just woken up and got scared, but when I described my surroundings she knew instantly where we lived, hence my age. Everything I remembered from being a small child were things that frightened me.

      If you notice in my Hub up to the 4th grade were things that frightened me. Maybe that is why I remembered them so well. Is that good? I'm not sure! Obviously they had to teach me something along the way otherwise I wouldn't have been passed along to the next grade. I certainly couldn't have reached near the #1 spot for spelling on my own!! LOL

      Oh yes, I certainly do remember the answers I missed (some)!! LOL How funny you should mention that!!

      I still have a Hub to write about the BEST teachers I have come across! I only hope I can do them justice with my mere words.

      Thank You!! For you have become my newest-BESTEST Teacher!! With all of your lovely History lessons!!!

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      Lori J Latimer 7 years ago from The River Valley, Arkansas

      Sweetsusieg, this is an awesome Hub. Thank you for the walks down those mean hallways. They said Einstein was retarded while he was in public school. Means nothing. What you have accomplished in spite of the bad teachers says worlds about you and your ability to succeed. It has followed your life well! Congrats Susan.

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      drbj and sherry 7 years ago from south Florida

      What a fantastic memory of teachers you have, susie, you remember vividly so many of them. Usually, when digging back into our past we remember the best and the worst and very few in between.

      Just like when you took a test, you forgot the questions you had no trouble answering but may still remember the one(s) you missed.

      Brava to Ms. Tipton - she WAS exceptional and if we ever become intelligent enough to pay teachers according to their ability to teach our children, we may find we have many more Ms. Tiptons.

      And, oh, yes, brava to you susie for this funny and tender exposition. You rock, girl. :)

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      Yes, this is true! Some folks just should not be in the public eye, maybe stuck somewhere on the 17th floor, below ground, sorting paper clips and measuring tacks.... 3 of my children could have had irreparable damage done to them, had I not been there to buffer it. I can only imagine those kids who didn't have parents that paid attention to what was happening!

      Mr. Mayberry!! You Rock!! Why? Cause you encouraged Chatkath to be her full potential!!

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      Kathy 7 years ago from California

      Like so many professions, there are a nameless few that have no business doing what they are doing and unfortunately, with teachers, they have the ability to do some serious damage to young minds and lives!

      Like you - I still remember my favorite teacher, Mr. Mayberry, who made up for all the bad ones (well, almost;)& encouraged me to write. Great Hub Susie!

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      Merlin!! You are too funny! I know we both came from the old school where teachers got to pretty much do what they wanted to us little hellions! Going so far as to pop us in the mouth if we 'back talked'....

      In today's world I know there are frustrations! The teachers are trying to teach with their hands tied behind their backs. Told what to teach, when to teach it etc... Even if they feel it is not worth teaching they have to! Without a doubt it has to be hard, I am not disputing that!

      There are those who still get to keep their jobs no matter how bad they are... That is what upsets me the most.

      Thanks for stopping by!

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      I was wondering what happened to those posts!!

      In response, I have volunteered at my kids' schools, I have worked at schools, and I have also been a bus driver for the schools. So I am not speaking from lack of knowledge.

      How can one defend a teacher that makes a student stand in front of the class and say "This child is fat, therefore she needs to take more showers because she will stink"? (My daughter's 6th grade teacher) at a different school my youngest was put on the 'island' by herself for the entire year because her teacher was determined that she should be as smart as her sister, from the year before.

      Or maybe my son's 1st grade teacher who didn't think we parents could smell the vodka she drank during school hours.

      Better yet, the teacher's who reeked of Pot smoke when the kids entered the class.

      Or even the teacher who made it clear that my child was a 'new student' and therefore would NOT be accepted by anyone. She came home crying everyday for a year, because no one wanted to be her friend.

      These are all true, and each one is from a different school with various school systems. I still stand by my Hub and the title.

      I do understand that teachers get the blame. They have a large impact on a child's life. They DO NOT get credit when they deserve either! You never once hear an actor or a sports hero say "I want to Thank my Drama teacher or my Coach"..... or even an Author "I would like to Thank my English Teacher!" Should the day arrive when I am allowed that opportunity, I will certainly give Thanks to Ms. Tipton - My 11th - 12th grade English Teacher.

      Thanks for stopping by and commenting!!

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      Merlin Fraser 7 years ago from Cotswold Hills

      Oh happy Days... Shades of my own school days where the teacher ruled. Back then they had all the best teaching methods; bouncing your head off the desk, chalk throwing and the occasional Whack with something more serious.

      Great lessons for life, learning at an early age how duck and out run the other kids ! Of course back then it was necessary to learn these things because life in the real world was a lot harder and the people you met hit harder too !

      Not all of it was good but neither was it so bad it had to be replaced with what we have now. Many of the kids I see today are in for quite a shock when they enter the real world !

      If you are like me the only teachers you remember were either those in whose class you actually learnt something or the psychopathic ones ! Great read by the way.

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      Peter Owen 7 years ago from West Hempstead, NY

      Honestly, I just wrote and deleted two different responses concerning schools in the low income neighborhoods and my observations of the teachers, kids, parents and administration.

      Teachers are at the lowest rung of importance and get blamed for everything. I'll leave it there since I just get angry when I start writing more.

      If you really want to underestand, volunteer at one of these schools and observe all the parties, blame throwing, parents uninvolvement, and kids mental problems from growing up in such neighborhoods.

      Nostalgia of my school days back when does not mesh with current reality.

      Good hub though.

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      Thank you Becky for your input! There has to be some way we can get (I hate this word) some sort of regulations... Even if it self policing....

      Thanks for stopping by!

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      Becky 7 years ago from Oklahoma

      I agree, teacher's initial pay and subsequent raises should be based on merit. Thanks for sharing your personal story. Awesome hub!

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      @ Fay - Some folks defend the profession as a whole, regardless of the 'bad seeds'. I guess those are the ones who I am apologizing to. With my kids, I've known a few teachers who just didn't want to teach.

      @ Zanerus - Yes, I was long wasn't it? I winder if those Good/Great teachers are ashamed to sit in the same break room with those other teachers who just don't care? So glad you made it through the end!

      @ msresearch - I have been accused of that from time to time. LOL Think of my poor husband!!

      @ mslizzie - I know the President tried to make it something good when he created the 'No Child left behind', the premise behind it was terrific. It's my guess if he did that, then teachers would have to put in a little extra effort. A lot of them felt 'put upon', as though someone were interfering once again, and just let kids slide by.

      I was thinking, when I went to work at Home Depot I had to take a Psychology test to determine if I'd steal their money. We have big thinkers all over this Country, can't we make a Psychology test to determine if a person is going to be good for a child? Just a thought!

      Thank you all for stopping by!!

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      elizabeth 7 years ago from Buncombe County, NC

      It's odd how no matter how old you are you can still recall the names of very excellent teachers. Thank you for your in depth look at schools. I don't know anything about the subject but one suspects something is wrong when so many kids actually graduate and can't read.

      How does that work?

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      msresearch 7 years ago

      Very interesting hub. You remember a lot!

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      Zanerus 7 years ago from United states

      A tiny bit to tired to go into a very very long winded read, but a good article, and well written. I must agree, I had many teachers who I felt taught me nothing, and otehr cases where I felt that though I learned nothing (I'll be honest, I can't remember half of highs chool, my eyes were closed) I had some great people as teachers.

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      Fay Paxton 7 years ago

      Sweetsusie, you owe no apologies. Sadly there are teachers who see teaching as just another job. I've known a few. It is a real to get rid of the deadwood and keep the best educators. Up and awesome.

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      Sweetsusieg 7 years ago from Michigan

      @ debbie - Yep, if some of those same teachers would have taken a little more time to know us kids, they'd have found out we could remember stuff!

      @ tipoague - Wow, how sad!! I'm not sure why some folks are just determined to teach when they really shouldn't. Sounds like your son's teacher was a little more than nutty! So sorry!

      Thanks for stopping by and commenting!

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      Tammy 7 years ago from USA

      Awesome hub! I gave this a vote up!

      I was standing in the hallway one day waiting on my daughter when I heard a teaching yelling at a child. Naturally curious, I wandered down there to find out the teacher was in fact yelling at my daughter and telling her in front of a hallway and classroom full of students how stupid she was; with her finger inches from my daughter's nose. I don't remember what I said to the teacher as I pulled my daughter into the principal's office to confront him about the teacher. There was a meeting called and the teacher had to explain why she thought my daughter was so stupid. The teacher said that my daughter couldn't grasp the math problems she was told to due and wasn't handing in her work. In protest, my daughter pulled out a folder they kept their work in and showed the principal the graded papers that were supposedly not turned in. That teacher had to eat crow for awhile. None of the kids in her class took her serious after that. I was surprised to see that she is still teaching years later...

      My son had a teacher that was tired of teaching and planned a note in the girls bathroom stating that there was a bomb in the school. After the evacuation, they fired the teacher and she went on to work in a nursing home. (I don't think any punishment was handed out for the treat.) Some people are amazing!

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      debbie  7 years ago

      wow how you remember all that stuff from school it is amazing


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