We did horrible, unspeakable things in the past, especially during the World Wars. Fire bombs of Dresden being a big reminder, but other actions aimed at deliberately causing civilian collateral damage, such a our use of nuclear weapons (fire bombings were for worse, and killed far more people than the nukes). Without doing any of this, however, I think it's possible that the Nazis could have easily defeated the Allied Forces in WWII. Thoughts?
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But how do you debate with characters who have "extreme irrational"? It seems the very definition of an irrational person is that they can't be reasoned with. The Nazis bombed London, so we bombed Dresden; today's ethics wouldn't permit this behavior
Well, Hanoi and Bagdad were bombed too. But what I mean is that the communication (debate) must begin long before it is an open conflict.
Yes, I think we can agree there. And the bombing in modern war today is absolutely brutal, unimaginable still, but by contrast, the firebombing of Dresden was worse than a nuke.