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Why We Should Not Deport Justin Bieber

Updated on February 1, 2014

Let’s Get This Fact on the Table Immediately

I am not a Justin Bieber fan. Period! I wish him no ill will, but if he were playing a free concert right across the street I would not go see him. I don’t like his attitude; I don’t like his actions; I’m not too crazy about his father; and I don’t like his music.

Does that just about cover everything?

I make these clear and bold statements because I do not want anyone saying that the rest of this article is a defense of the singer based on adoration. Trust me, there is none.

In fact, I think Justin Bieber is a train wreck waiting to happen. A few wheels are already off the track and the derailment is imminent. There is just no way to sugarcoat that fact.

I also think that Justin Bieber needs a spanking. Take him out behind the woodshed and whoop his overpriced butt until he gets some common sense.

Are we clear?

But……

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The Latest Online News

So I was scanning Yahoo News the other day and I came across this article that said a petition had been organized and over 103,000 signatures had been gathered. The petition asks for the Federal Government to deport Mr. Bieber and send his butt back to Canada. It goes on to state that the reason for this deportation is because Bieber has endangered lives here in the United States and he is a bad influence on the youth of America.

So here’s the thing….

As much as I happen to dislike egotistical, over-hyped, questionable talent, I dislike hypocrisy even more, and this petition reeks of the type of hypocrisy the United States is famous for.

Deport someone because they are an endangerment? Deport someone because they are a negative influence? Oh please!

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Let’s Look at This Endangerment Nonsense First

I guarantee you right now that some of the people who signed that petition have talked on their cell phone and texted messages while driving their car.

I guarantee you right now that some of the people who signed that petition have driven a vehicle after having a couple beers with their friends at the local tavern.

I guarantee you right now that some of the people who signed that petition have received speeding tickets, and I guarantee you right now that some of those who signed that petition have done equally dangerous things during their everyday lives.

Was Mr. Bieber being irresponsible drag-racing down a public street? Most definitely, just like I was when I was a teenager and just like many of you have been over the span of your lives. An endangerment? Most definitely! Stupid! You betcha! A reason for deportation? Give me a break!

Now Let’s Look at the Bad Influence Hogwash

Oh how I love this hypocritical nonsense. I have been on this planet for sixty-five years now and the words “bad influence” grate on my nerves and have for decades. Is it a bad influence to cuss in front of your children? Is it a bad influence to cheat your competitors? Is it bad influence to let your kids see you drunk? Is it bad influence to be devout in church on Sundays and then live lives that in no way correspond to the gospel you listened to?

Check out the latest celebrity magazines and show me a celebrity that is not a bad influence on our children. Go ahead, I’ll wait. My parents hated Mick Jagger and everything he “stood for,” but they had no desire to deport him when he toured the States with the Stones. What they did instead, and I realize this will seem a bit novel…..they raised me to understand the difference between right and wrong. Heaven forbid! They raised me to understand the difference between socially acceptable behavior and unacceptable behavior.

If we are going to deport Mr. Bieber for being a bad influence then we need to do the same thing to 90% of the entertainers and athletes in this country, and then who would we watch for entertainment?

Another Thing to Consider

Do we really want to send Justin back to Canada? What has Canada done to us to deserve that kind of action? They are our friendly neighbors to the north. Friends don’t toss garbage over the fence into their neighbor’s yard.

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And That Leads Us to the Final Point

Who would we watch for entertainment? The bottom line about this topic is this: we actively condone unacceptable behavior by buying tickets to see these musicians and sports stars. They would not be famous if we stopped doing our part as fans.

The 20th Century is littered with examples of entertainers who were train wrecks just like Mr. Bieber, but fans kept paying money to see them perform. The 21st Century shows no signs of different behavior on the part of the American public. We made these people famous and we continue to do so….so who is to blame here?

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Let the System Handle This One

Mr. Bieber will have his day in court. There is no reason in the world to get the Federal Government involved in this matter. Let’s face it, the government has a pretty bad track record of its own; do we really want them poking their noses into matters as trivial as stupid entertainers? I’d rather let them work on universal health care and the homelessness problem. We can handle Mr. Bieber quite nicely without the help of Uncle Sam. Besides, as a country we are broke. We can use the tax dollars Mr. Bieber generates.

Let the court handle it, and when they are done then you can do your own part by not supporting entertainers you consider to be a bad influence. They will dry up and go away, just as thousands of others have done in the past, if we stop supporting them. Fame is fleeting at best, and it only exists because of an adoring public. Take away the adoration and all you are left with is questionable talent in an empty stadium.

And one final note: those who live in glass houses really should refrain from tossing rocks.

2014 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ralph, I think he has a good shot at mayor. :) Yes, I was aware of the deportation of Latino parents....we pride ourselves here on being as inconsistent as possible in the way we apply our laws. LOL And yes, that was sarcastic.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Shyron, I agree with you. I have some great comments on my hubs. Thanks for the return visit.

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      Ralph Deeds 3 years ago from Birmingham, Michigan

      Are you aware that Canada denies entry to Americans who have had DUI convictions?

      http://news.lawreader.com/2012/05/05/you-may-be-de...

      How do you feel about the deportation of Latino parents of children born in the United States?

      Send the little jerk back to Canada. Maybe he can become mayor of Toronto.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Hi Bill, I come to read more comments, which are almost as interesting as your article.

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      B Lucy 3 years ago from Podunk, Virginia

      What can I say . . you inspired me!!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks B Lucy; I don't often read the word "beget." :)

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      B Lucy 3 years ago from Podunk, Virginia

      Agreed! I have found one begets learning while the other regret . . .

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      B Lucy....I like "choices" much better than "mistakes." :)

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Exactly the point, Sweetie Pie...thank you!

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      B Lucy 3 years ago from Podunk, Virginia

      billybuc . . . I am howling!! I too am lucky not to have been judged by my mistakes . . I mean choices . . when I was 19! = )

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      SweetiePie 3 years ago from Southern California, USA

      Well Justin Bieber is of no relevance in my world, but why even have this discussion. The guy should not have a license, and call it a day.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      B Lucy, thanks for considering my viewpoint. I don't know if I'm right or not, but I'm sure glad it wasn't possible to deport me when I was younger. LOL

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      B Lucy 3 years ago from Podunk, Virginia

      You may have very well converted me, billybuc! While I was leaning towards sending him packing (as if I have a say in the matter) . . you held up a mirror that I do not gaze into often enough!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Happy! Much appreciated...and nonsense it is.

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      Mr. Happy 3 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Just came across something which reminded me about my previous comment about "You can keep him". Here You go, the nonsense continues (haha!!): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564933/Lo...

      Cheers! : )

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Deb! I love the last line...be a part of the solution! We need a great deal more than that my friend.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Theresa! I enjoyed writing this one; I couldn't help but think back when I was in college.....like you said, good thing we can't be arrested for jerkiness. :)

      blessings always

      bill

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      Deb Hirt 3 years ago from Stillwater, OK

      Deportation is not the way to handle problems, I agree. Let's be part of the solution. We can't simply "get rid" of the problem and expect it to improve on its own. Many people do that though, ad that's why this country is in the state of affairs that it is. Be part of the SOLUTION.

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      Theresa Ast 3 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Bill -

      I love it, I love it. And I agree with every word. I too, think Mr Bieber needs a really good spanking, probably several of them. And he is a jerk, but America is full of jerks and not just the entertainment industry (altho there are a lot of them there), but we have not yet criminalized jerkiness, brattiness, or arrogance.

      We need to cool down, ignore him, and let the courts work. After all, as you said, what has Canada ever done to us to deserve such retribution? Wonderful piece. I couldn't stop smiling. :)

      Theresa

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Efficient, if being stupid is a crime then I was very lucky when I was his age. :) I think I'll spend my time concerned about more important matters. Thank you!

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      Efficient Admin 3 years ago from Charlotte, NC

      What a great article. You had me cracking up with the entire first paragraph, and so correct about hypocrisy because I can name a whole bunch of entertainers that are a bad influence on our culture -- too many names to list here. I am not a fan of Bieber but wish him well and I hope he gets his act together. Many kids his age do the same stupid things he is doing.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kevina! It's nice to read some rational comments about this case....I'm pretty sure the court system can handle this young man quite nicely.

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      kevina oyatedor 3 years ago

      I am so glad you wrote this. I said the same thing about him. I am not a fan of him as well but he didn't anything horrible. Hes a kid doing stupid things because hes famous and thinking nothing can touch him. The US court can handle him and he can go back to doing his whatever.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Glimmer, I don't so much dislike his music as just not connect with it.

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      Glimmer Twin Fan 3 years ago

      I was only kidding about the JB songs part. I definitely agree that deporting could start a very scary slide in this country. Very scary indeed.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You may be kidding, Glimmer, but I'm not. I can live without his music but yes, a scary slope indeed. There are quite a few people who would have lobbied for my deportation when I was in college. LOL

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      Glimmer Twin Fan 3 years ago

      It would start a scary slope if we started deporting anyone we thought was annoying. Of course, I would have no problem if radio stations stopped playing his music (just kidding).

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Fantastic, Ann! :)

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      Ann Carr 3 years ago from SW England

      You're on!! :)

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Ann, I need you to serve as my publicist. I'll gladly pay you. :) You are so kind....I just toss out thoughts and hope others will find them food for further thought. Thank you my dear!

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      Ann Carr 3 years ago from SW England

      I agree whole-heartedly. There have been many here over the years who have been just like Mr Bieber; their fans have waned unless they were exceptionally talented (and he is not).

      He needs to grow up but that will take a while and he'll probably go under before that happens but maybe, just maybe, he'll realise before it's too late. The lad needs help of some kind, not deportation. That won't help anyone.

      I was really surprised when I saw your title - 'bit off his usual tack' I thought! But it's not really, it's just your usual thoughtful, sensible take on society and justice. Good for you! Ann

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      thebiologyofleah, I agree with you....this story will die a natural death and Bieber will either learn or he won't. The lifespan of a story like this is about one week and then we can all go back to our own lives of making mistakes and learning from them. :) Thank you!

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      thebiologyofleah 3 years ago from Massachusetts

      I completely agree with everything you have to say in this article and I had very similar thoughts about the whole thing. Well actually, I really have no opinion on Justin Bieber one way or another (but if anything I tend to join your side of dislike) but I don't see why this particular bad influence celebrity at this particular time has warranted an online petition to get him kicked out of the country.

      No press is bad press and the petition itself and those of us debating it are just feeding into keeping his name on everyone's lips!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...Jeannie, obviously I was too transparent. No, I'm not too fond of the young man or his antics, and I like Canada way too much to do that to them. :) Thanks for stopping by.

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      Jeannie InABottle 3 years ago from Baltimore, MD

      But wait, just so I am clear on this, you don't really like Justin Bieber? I can't believe it! ;-) I agree with you... we don't need to ship him back. That would be too mean. Canada has given us many other lovely singers, so there is no need to create hard feelings between the U.S. and Canada.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Crystal, I love your line "we worship at the altar of celebrity and send the message that whatever they do is acceptable"....very true my friend...then we screech with righteous indignation when they don't live up to our standards. How ridiculous. :) Thank you!

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      Crystal Tatum 3 years ago from Georgia

      You make excellent points here, and I agree with them all. There's little intelligent thought behind this petition. Bieber is no worse than any other celebrity who has achieved too much fame and earned too much money too fast, and as you point out, no worse than many of us. We're all guilty of being stupid and irresponsible at times. It's too bad he's a meal ticket for the people who surround him. What are the consequences for this guy? Who can punish him? We worship at the altar of celebrity and send the message that whatever they do is acceptable, then wag our fingers when they behave in the way we have authorized and encouraged. Honestly, I think some of the backlash is jealousy. I just hope he gets this out of his system and turns out OK. I don't feel strongly abot him one way or the other, but I would really hate to see this talented kid self-destruct and lose everything. It happens too often.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you!

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      Beth37 3 years ago

      You as well. :)

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Beth, I won't even go on the forums. I refuse to play those games over serious issues. I would rather work for solutions with serious-minded people. Thank you and I hope you have a great week.

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      Beth37 3 years ago

      Billy, you see this same kind of reaction in public forums. It's mob mentality. One person picks up a torch and like they say... it only takes a spark... I bet most the ppl who signed that petition couldn't have cared less until someone gave them a reason to care. I'd be surprised if any of those ppl had an original thought of their own.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Well said, Mary; compassion is always a good place to start in any situation. Thank you!

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      Mary Craig 3 years ago from New York

      Its easy to see the HP community totally agrees with you. Too much fame, too much money, and much too fast! This is a young man who spent his most important years having things literally thrown at him...fame, money, and the freedom to do what he wants without parental guidance.

      Instead of petitioning to throw him out of the USA we should be feeling sorry for him and praying that he finds his way before it is too late.

      Voted up, useful, and interesting.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Shyron, it is a sad tale that is repeated daily in our society.....we were warned thousands of years ago about the evils of money....and yet some lessons must be learned individually. Thank you for your thoughts.

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      Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago from Texas

      Bill, the boy was put into the 'candy store' with the money to buy as much as he eat, and no one told him, if he ate to much he would be sick.

      His candy just happened to be booze.

      Maybe he will get clean and sober and someday become a great actor, like Mr. Hoffman who just died of a drug overdose. I do hope he becomes a great actor, but not a user.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Most definitely, thanks to Miz B

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cecileportilla, just a normal American child...in many way, yes. Thank you for the return comment.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Michael my friend, you hit the proverbial nail on the head once more. Perfect reference and sentiment. Thank you as always and may your Tuesday be blessed.

      bill

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      Cecile Portilla 3 years ago from West Orange, New Jersey

      MizBejabbers- Thanks for the info on the petition site. I really hope that any such petition fails. It is such hypocrisy.

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      Cecile Portilla 3 years ago from West Orange, New Jersey

      Hi Michael-Milec;

      Thanks for using that bible story to help remind us of our hypocrisy. I though of that same story earlier but did not actually get it on paper. The ones who are attempting to throw the first stones probably have more hidden their closets than they care to share! There is just something about our culture that destroys the innocence of young celebrities. Every bad behavior that you can think of seem to start right here in America. To the rest of the world Justin is

      just a normal American child. If we deport him we should send half the country along with him!

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      Michael-Milec 3 years ago

      Good evening Bill.

      As acute as the rest of your articles, simply because you're concerned .In opening segment you've poised it fairly clear among other, 'i don't like his actions…" perfectly differentiating between actor and acts , both dangerous and threatening. Calling for justice to be done, - suppose young Mr.Bieber will survive " throwing stones " coming out alive either discouraged or encouraged .Sending warning signal to those who are "co-sinning" with him simply by not helping him possessing the capacity for development into a respectable human being in first place. . . Coming to mind a story which we heard once, perhaps more than once in time of past- not much popular anymore, about 'throwing the first stone '- which has ended on positive note " go home and from now on do not (sin)- don't "miss the mark", don't repeatedly do not make the same mistake or as in today language , "do not brake the law anymore".. The justice ought to be done, - is going to be done -only if those who do administer it know how to do it rightly.

      Voted up and interesting .

      Have a blessed and prosperous week, my friend.

      michaEL

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      I hope that as well, Joelle. I don't wish him any ill will; I just would love to see a little maturity enter the picture soon.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks for coming back with that info Miz B...much-appreciated.

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      kidscrafts 3 years ago from Ottawa, Canada

      I must say that I don't know his music and I don't suffer about that. Classical music is more my style.

      But like everybody, I can hear the news and I find his attitude quite immature and it seems that his father doesn't encourage him to make right choices.

      Of what I heard on the news, before he turned 18, he was taking the time to visit kids with cancer. He was caring. But since he turned 18, he is like you said a train wreck waiting to happen. I find that terrible that some parents of those young stars play in the same "sandbox" as their kids and don't seem to care of setting the right example and give them boundaries. Let's hope that someone wakes him up soon!

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      MizBejabbers 3 years ago

      Cecile, one such website is change and it is an org, not a com. Just put it together with a dot I subscribed to them because I saw some good there, but now there are too many junky petitions. I'll be surprised if this comment makes it through the censors.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      cecileportilla, great line. Yes, we do create these personalities....we idolize and give them millions and the cry out in false horror when they act poorly...just so much silliness if you as me. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      MizB, I love it....Mexican Cartel! I would laugh but it is too true.

      Thank you as always. i can always count on you to share some level-headed logic to emotional ill-logic.

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      Cecile Portilla 3 years ago from West Orange, New Jersey

      MizBejabbers:

      I did not know that there were sites for on line petitions. Such a shame that some people in our country have nothing better to do with their time.

      We create these monsters then pretend to be shocked when they act out. If that kid had stayed in Canada he would probably be singing on his Church Choir.

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      MizBejabbers 3 years ago

      Bill, I agree with everything you say, and I’m glad you said it. You are in my age group so you are familiar with a young hellion named Wayne Newton, are you not? Justin Bieber reminds me so much of him. Wayne Newton now owns about half of Las Vegas.

      At this point I don’t see where the spoiled Mr. Bieber has committed a FEDERAL crime. Last time I looked drag racing and the other miscreant deeds of which he has been accused are all local ordinances and state laws. The federal government probably wouldn’t have jurisdiction in this case. The feds are supposed to follow the law, not what a few indignant people want. What is the sense in deporting a bad influence and letting the Mexican Cartel stay?

      Since the Internet allows for such, there are a number of websites popping up that allow anyone and his dog to file online petitions. Some of them make solid sense and I’m glad to see an outlet for them, but others are so much tripe that I cringe in embarrassment for them. I’m not sure where this particular partition originated, but it looks like it may have come from one of these sites.

      Keep up your crusades for fairness and freedom, my friend. Voted you up++

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...Mr. Happy, a classic my friend. Thank you for a dose of reality and a laugh. We egged houses when I was a kid, but I rarely hear of it now. Disgusting quite frankly. Hell, we tipped over outhouses while they were occupied, so egging houses was tame.

      As for Bieber, I'm done talking about him. :)

      Thanks buddy!

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      Mr. Happy 3 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Ya, really You can keep him. We're fine here without another kid egging houses (or igloos). By the way, I heard You Americans are not up to date with the egging thing - do kids there really not egg houses? Or knock on someone's door and run away before they can answer? Well, that's why Bieber is there I think: to teach You guys all the fun games kids play here.

      I must say though, with all the corruption happening in the United States, I am glad people are taking their time to write petitions on deporting Justin Bieber, it really shows what the priorities are. And I am certain America's greatness will return once he is gone too (if he gets booted out).

      Alrighty, enough of Bieber for me for the next twelve months at least (lol). Fun article. : )

      Cheers!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Eddy....influence begins at home....do the job as parents and then allow your children to make decisions....and let them pay the consequences for their actions. Pretty simple formula.

      billy

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      grand old lady, thank you for sharing that about his visit to the Philippines....it is very important to look at the whole picture.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Well put vkwok....I know people with six DUIs on their record still driving.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Minnetonka, my pleasure, and thank you for your thoughts. I was wondering how others felt about this. As much as I dislike his antics, I dislike hypocrisy more.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Flourish, well-stated as always. Thank you for your opinion.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Oh Linda, that list would be quite long now wouldn't it? Thanks my friend.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      breakfastpop, thanks for the laugh...send the entire Congress there as well and I'm with you.

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      Eiddwen 3 years ago from Wales

      Again like many others Billy I do not like Justin Bieber at all. For exactly the same reasons a shave been repeated by everyone on here.

      One day he will end up a broke and very lonely person and this may well be his wake up call. Like you I do not believe that to deport him is the answer as there are so many bad influences out there day in day out for our youngsters we can all simply try and teach them right from wrong.

      Thanks again Billy for another straight spoken and sobering article. Enjoy your day.

      Eddy.

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      Mona Sabalones Gonzalez 3 years ago from Philippines

      I like Justin Bieber because he came to the Philippines for the Yolanda victims and played basketball with them for almost an hour. I think it's sad that someone who was once so wholesome is getting trapped in what happens to a lot of celebrities who started out as child celebrities. I wish his parents would intervene and he could find his way back, just like Britney Spears did. When he was good, he was very, very good. That goodness can be brought back again if he gets the help that he needs. This was a fair and objective article, very well written with good points made.

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      Victor W. Kwok 3 years ago from Hawaii

      It's a bit much to deport Justin Bieber over something like a DUI when too many Americans are doing that with just a slap on the wrist when caught. Thanks for sharing, Bill!

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      Linda Rogers 3 years ago from Minnesota

      I had to hit every button on this article. How ludicrous to be talking about deporting Justin. I can think of hundreds of famous singers, actors and athletes that have done the same stuff and worse. I agree with you that it's very hypocritical to have this discussion on the Bieb's. Yes, he's a train wreck and has to grow up, but where's the news flash on this? There is no news flash. We've heard and seen all of this before. Great article Billy and thank you for the common sense discussion. I'm sharing this.

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      FlourishAnyway 3 years ago from USA

      This train wreck should get the same treatment received as any other foreign national who breaks the laws of the host country. Citizenship confers rights, but he needs to remember he is a guest in this country.

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      Linda Bilyeu 3 years ago from Orlando, FL

      I agree, Justin is a train wreck waiting to happen...it's a shame he doesn't have the proper guidance from those who are responsible for him, even though he is 19 yrs old. He obviously needs an intervention! Deporting him is not going to help the matter. On the flip side I could think of a few celebs I'd like to deport even though they are American citizens :)

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      breakfastpop 3 years ago

      I would prefer that Obama was deported to Kenya. As for JB I feel quite strongly that he is headed for disaster. He experienced fame without a foundation to handle the strain.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Rachael...awordlover.....stop by anytime and share such a wonderfully reflective comment. The path of least resistance...our country loves that path.....I am so tired of the hypocrisy and duplicity in society today. If he broke the law then jail him like anyone else. Period! As you said, deportation is a joke to someone with his money and it solves nothing.

      I could go on buy you said it much more eloquently. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you DDE...I decided to write something a little bit different.

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      awordlover 3 years ago

      Justin-oh-how-I-detest-that-first-name Bieber is a rich young man thrown into an adult world with adult toys and no lesson plan or book of instructions. But is deportation the answer? If we deport one immature child star who is acting out and getting into trouble, we will be deporting many to be able to continue on their destructive path. I never saw deportation being offered to any of those non-citizen child actors of the 60s 70s 80s and 90s who were showing similar behavior with drug and alcohol trouble while they were growing up wealthy from early success. Many got their butts thrown in jail. Some came out better for it, some came out worse. It's a coin toss if jail will do its job depending on who one's jailhouse companions are. In the old days, rich kids went to rehabs, or parents to finally start doing their jobs, or some were sent to jail, or some died young deaths. Many child stars are never heard from again, for lots of reasons... falling back into the 'life', or the public quietly and effectively boycotted their career, or they're in jail, or they made other employment choices and are no longer in limelight.

      Many were not US citizens, but did we deport them? No. Deporting him will not make Bieber's problems go away. We'd be transfering the problem to another jurisdiction, who has possibly less rigid laws, or more stringent, depending on the country.

      But just like any USA children who get arrested for robbery, for dealing and using drugs and alcohol, do we choose the line of least resistance to punish them? No, we are proactive in punishing our own. Sending Bieber home is not a punishment because he still gets to keep all his toys and luxuries. It is ridding USA of one small pebble in a huge desert of sand pebbles and will make no difference in our country. Nor does it send a constructive message. "Break our laws, we will deport you." So what? It's not jail and it's not rehab; it is still freedom to continue more of the same behavior. I don't know the answer to the dilemma. I do know that a strict rehab is in order now, not 5 years from now. One where his money can't import drugs into the rehab like other famous people do. Why he is not already there, I don't understand. Interventions used to be popular. From what I see and read, his parents were never hands-on for this child. It is likely the parents do not want to lose the meal ticket they have come to enjoy. Deportation is the line of least resistance and clearly not the answer. Boycotting his career at every turn is probably the only answer. It would take a global conspiracy to make that happen.

      I expected to settle down to read a billybuc hub on my favorite subject and ended up ranting and raving about a child star I have no love or like for. It is his situation and how it is being handled which struck a chord with me. I rarely comment in forums or hubs. Please don't take this as representative of how I conduct myself. I find myself saying this to you billybuc - which could possibly be what we will be hearing from Justin-oh-how-I-detest-that-first-name Bieber sometime soon:

      Sir, I promise to exhibit better behavior in my future actions. Please don't deport me or boycott my work. LOL

      awordlover -Rachael O'Halloran

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      Devika Primić 3 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Why We Should Not Deport Justin Bieber you surprised me with this title. I am not fan and find that he is a spoiled brat and what happened to him had happened very fast the kid is still in a dream world..

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Bobbi, it will never cease to amaze me what some people find to be important. I've got much bigger things to be concerned about than what Bieber is up to. :) Thank you my friend and have a great Sunday.

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      BobbiRant 3 years ago from New York

      He was just a 'regular kid' until he found fame. I'm not sure how anyone thinks he should act when thrust into the lime light. He seems to be acting much like any other rock star does. LOL I cannot believe anyone even has their socks in a twist over this stuff. Too many more Real issues Americans need to face and Justin isn't on the top of my priority list. Nice hub.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Martie, what a perfect line at the end....what should not be done while you are not earning your daily bread. Classic! Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Suzanne, I love it...almost like scapegoating. Indeed, my friend. I couldn't agree more. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Cris, thanks for the laugh. I keep hearing about this Rob Ford but I don't know anything about him. Guess I'll have to do a search on him....thanks for the info and glad you are back with us.

      love from Oly

      bill

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      John, I would sign that petition in a heartbeat...deport the entire government. My goodness, there is no end to the deportations we could do if we used "bad influence" as a guiding light. :) Thanks buddy!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Ann! I like my Canadian friends....what kind of friend would I be if I gave them Justin? LOL

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Phyllis, your last line says it all...healing our country and fixing our government. My goodness, that should keep us busy don't you think? Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Jackie! I just think we have so much more to worry about than one kid who sings and makes poor judgments. I would love to see people get their priorities straight.

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      Martie Coetser 3 years ago from South Africa

      I cannot agree more with you, Billy - "As much as I happen to dislike egotistical, over-hyped, questionable talent, I dislike hypocrisy even more, and this petition reeks of the type of hypocrisy the United States (and also South Africa) is famous for."

      We may admire the talents and productions of so-called 'super stars', but really, they are all - or let me say 99% of them - perfect choices for psycho analysis. They are demonstrators of what should NOT be done while you are not earning your daily bread.

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      Suzanne Day 3 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

      I can see what you mean, millions of people have probably done the very things they want to deport Justin Bieber for, so singling him out for deportation seems rather extreme, almost like scapegoating. Voted "interesting" because it is!

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      CrisSp 3 years ago from Sky Is The Limit Adventure

      Justin Bieber? Really? You hub about him? Ahmm...this is something I wasn't expecting from you Bill but then again , I understand where you coming from in this article and so, thank you for another interesting read.

      I honestly wasn't following any celeb news but JB's face is all over the media competing space with Toronto Mayor Rob Ford, so what choice do I have. Lol!

      Poor boy(s), born with such skills and talents gone wasted.

      And yes, please don’t toss anymore garbage here.

      P.S. You can tell, I'm back on the ground...hubbing and singing JB's...."You know you love me, I know you care. Just shout whenever, and I'll be there ....baby, baby, baby, ooh..." ~ Okay, I'm teasing you. Goodnight Bill! Sending you some love from the sky!

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      John Hansen 3 years ago from Queensland Australia

      Great hub Bill, and full of good points. I'm not a fan either, though millions are, that's why he is so rich and spoilt. Joelle commented earlier that the main problem is his parental guidance, and that's true. he became a star too early through youtube, and was virtually an overnight success. He didn't really have time to be trained in all the niceties and etiquette on being a star. It's happened to many others and will continue to be a problem.

      Another thing is that the press and public thrive on notoriety. We don't want our stars to be dull and boring, or do we? They say 'any' publicity is good publicity. This may not always be the case, but in the case of entertainers it often appears to be true. While people continue to flock to his concerts they simply justify his actions, and those of others.

      I think Robert Downey Junior is a great actor, but he hasn't exactly been well behaved and a good example. If you want to deport someone for being a bad influence, maybe begin with entire government.

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      Ann1Az2 3 years ago from Orange, Texas

      My first reaction when I say your title was, "Oh, why not, can we please?" lol Because I feel exactly the same way about him that you do. However, I get your point and I agree with that, also. What determines "bad influence" was our parents, and now, our own common sense. I also agree that if people would quit paying to see these bozos, they wouldn't be as popular. I laughed out loud when I got to the part where you asked what Canada had done to us to deserve us throwing Justin Bieber back. Good stuff!

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      Phyllis Doyle Burns 3 years ago from High desert of Nevada.

      Billy,You have some pretty strong opinions on this. I reckon those who are for deportation have some pretty strong opinions also and if they have kids rightly so. I could care less one way or the other if Bieber is deported or runs off the track into a dung heap. The things is, what good would it do to deport him? I could think of many in high federal office who should be deported right quick before we worry about juvenile delinquets. Miley Cirus ... get rid of Bieber and we still have to put up with a pretty girl gone bad, really bad!!! Too much energy and attention is wasted on celebrities like Bieber and Cyrus -- we could direct that overly reacting energy to better use, like healing our country and fixing our government ills.

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      Jackie Lynnley 3 years ago from The Beautiful South

      This boy is still a kid and I agree he is acting so like a brat. I don't listen to his music but he has a Christmas song at YouTube called Mistletoe, listen to it and tell me you don't like it billy? He is mentally about 12 because he made it big so young but if we want to send someone home why don't we start with the drug lords crossing our open borders daily? That is serious stuff, Bieber will do himself in if he doesn't wake up soon. He is a joke, murderer and drug pushers aren't, if we want to be serious about something enough for petitions like to make someone seal our borders. Please! Sure with you on this one, in fact was giving it your same thought yesterday. Some people have little to worry about, apparently.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kathryn! I don't know why I felt the need to write this, but I get so tired of people concerning themselves with insignificant crap when there are bigger issues facing us all.

      Enjoy your days off and thank you again.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Pearl, you are so right....and don't even get me started about Lohan. :) I hope all is well with you; thank you as always.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      cecileportilla, yes we are and yes we have.....it is so easy to point fingers in this country.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Hey Paula, how's it going Sis? Yes indeed....take care of your own brood and stop worrying about others who might be a bad influence.....there is more than enough bad influence to go around in this country.

      Have a great weekend my friend; I hope the snows have abated for the winter for you guys.

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      Bill Holland 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Jaye, if you are an old fogey then I am too. I didn't approve of Elvis's behavior many moons ago and I don't approve now....but part of living in this country is allowing others the freedom to act like idiots if they choose.

      Thank you for always bringing wisdom into the conversation. :)