Why We Should Not Deport Justin Bieber

Are you aware that Canada denies entry to Americans who have had DUI convictions?

http://news.lawreader.com/2012/05/05/you-may-be-de...

How do you feel about the deportation of Latino parents of children born in the United States?

Send the little jerk back to Canada. Maybe he can become mayor of Toronto.

Hi Bill, I come to read more comments, which are almost as interesting as your article.

What can I say . . you inspired me!!

Agreed! I have found one begets learning while the other regret . . .

billybuc . . . I am howling!! I too am lucky not to have been judged by my mistakes . . I mean choices . . when I was 19! = )

Well Justin Bieber is of no relevance in my world, but why even have this discussion. The guy should not have a license, and call it a day.

You may have very well converted me, billybuc! While I was leaning towards sending him packing (as if I have a say in the matter) . . you held up a mirror that I do not gaze into often enough!

Just came across something which reminded me about my previous comment about "You can keep him". Here You go, the nonsense continues (haha!!): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564933/Lo...

Cheers! : )

Deportation is not the way to handle problems, I agree. Let's be part of the solution. We can't simply "get rid" of the problem and expect it to improve on its own. Many people do that though, ad that's why this country is in the state of affairs that it is. Be part of the SOLUTION.

Bill -

I love it, I love it. And I agree with every word. I too, think Mr Bieber needs a really good spanking, probably several of them. And he is a jerk, but America is full of jerks and not just the entertainment industry (altho there are a lot of them there), but we have not yet criminalized jerkiness, brattiness, or arrogance.

We need to cool down, ignore him, and let the courts work. After all, as you said, what has Canada ever done to us to deserve such retribution? Wonderful piece. I couldn't stop smiling. :)

Theresa

What a great article. You had me cracking up with the entire first paragraph, and so correct about hypocrisy because I can name a whole bunch of entertainers that are a bad influence on our culture -- too many names to list here. I am not a fan of Bieber but wish him well and I hope he gets his act together. Many kids his age do the same stupid things he is doing.

I am so glad you wrote this. I said the same thing about him. I am not a fan of him as well but he didn't anything horrible. Hes a kid doing stupid things because hes famous and thinking nothing can touch him. The US court can handle him and he can go back to doing his whatever.

I was only kidding about the JB songs part. I definitely agree that deporting could start a very scary slide in this country. Very scary indeed.

It would start a scary slope if we started deporting anyone we thought was annoying. Of course, I would have no problem if radio stations stopped playing his music (just kidding).

You're on!! :)

I agree whole-heartedly. There have been many here over the years who have been just like Mr Bieber; their fans have waned unless they were exceptionally talented (and he is not).

He needs to grow up but that will take a while and he'll probably go under before that happens but maybe, just maybe, he'll realise before it's too late. The lad needs help of some kind, not deportation. That won't help anyone.

I was really surprised when I saw your title - 'bit off his usual tack' I thought! But it's not really, it's just your usual thoughtful, sensible take on society and justice. Good for you! Ann

I completely agree with everything you have to say in this article and I had very similar thoughts about the whole thing. Well actually, I really have no opinion on Justin Bieber one way or another (but if anything I tend to join your side of dislike) but I don't see why this particular bad influence celebrity at this particular time has warranted an online petition to get him kicked out of the country.

No press is bad press and the petition itself and those of us debating it are just feeding into keeping his name on everyone's lips!

But wait, just so I am clear on this, you don't really like Justin Bieber? I can't believe it! ;-) I agree with you... we don't need to ship him back. That would be too mean. Canada has given us many other lovely singers, so there is no need to create hard feelings between the U.S. and Canada.

You make excellent points here, and I agree with them all. There's little intelligent thought behind this petition. Bieber is no worse than any other celebrity who has achieved too much fame and earned too much money too fast, and as you point out, no worse than many of us. We're all guilty of being stupid and irresponsible at times. It's too bad he's a meal ticket for the people who surround him. What are the consequences for this guy? Who can punish him? We worship at the altar of celebrity and send the message that whatever they do is acceptable, then wag our fingers when they behave in the way we have authorized and encouraged. Honestly, I think some of the backlash is jealousy. I just hope he gets this out of his system and turns out OK. I don't feel strongly abot him one way or the other, but I would really hate to see this talented kid self-destruct and lose everything. It happens too often.

You as well. :)

Billy, you see this same kind of reaction in public forums. It's mob mentality. One person picks up a torch and like they say... it only takes a spark... I bet most the ppl who signed that petition couldn't have cared less until someone gave them a reason to care. I'd be surprised if any of those ppl had an original thought of their own.

Its easy to see the HP community totally agrees with you. Too much fame, too much money, and much too fast! This is a young man who spent his most important years having things literally thrown at him...fame, money, and the freedom to do what he wants without parental guidance.

Instead of petitioning to throw him out of the USA we should be feeling sorry for him and praying that he finds his way before it is too late.

Voted up, useful, and interesting.

Bill, the boy was put into the 'candy store' with the money to buy as much as he eat, and no one told him, if he ate to much he would be sick.

His candy just happened to be booze.

Maybe he will get clean and sober and someday become a great actor, like Mr. Hoffman who just died of a drug overdose. I do hope he becomes a great actor, but not a user.

MizBejabbers- Thanks for the info on the petition site. I really hope that any such petition fails. It is such hypocrisy.

Hi Michael-Milec;

Thanks for using that bible story to help remind us of our hypocrisy. I though of that same story earlier but did not actually get it on paper. The ones who are attempting to throw the first stones probably have more hidden their closets than they care to share! There is just something about our culture that destroys the innocence of young celebrities. Every bad behavior that you can think of seem to start right here in America. To the rest of the world Justin is

just a normal American child. If we deport him we should send half the country along with him!

Good evening Bill.

As acute as the rest of your articles, simply because you're concerned .In opening segment you've poised it fairly clear among other, 'i don't like his actions…" perfectly differentiating between actor and acts , both dangerous and threatening. Calling for justice to be done, - suppose young Mr.Bieber will survive " throwing stones " coming out alive either discouraged or encouraged .Sending warning signal to those who are "co-sinning" with him simply by not helping him possessing the capacity for development into a respectable human being in first place. . . Coming to mind a story which we heard once, perhaps more than once in time of past- not much popular anymore, about 'throwing the first stone '- which has ended on positive note " go home and from now on do not (sin)- don't "miss the mark", don't repeatedly do not make the same mistake or as in today language , "do not brake the law anymore".. The justice ought to be done, - is going to be done -only if those who do administer it know how to do it rightly.

Voted up and interesting .

Have a blessed and prosperous week, my friend.

michaEL

I must say that I don't know his music and I don't suffer about that. Classical music is more my style.

But like everybody, I can hear the news and I find his attitude quite immature and it seems that his father doesn't encourage him to make right choices.

Of what I heard on the news, before he turned 18, he was taking the time to visit kids with cancer. He was caring. But since he turned 18, he is like you said a train wreck waiting to happen. I find that terrible that some parents of those young stars play in the same "sandbox" as their kids and don't seem to care of setting the right example and give them boundaries. Let's hope that someone wakes him up soon!

Cecile, one such website is change and it is an org, not a com. Just put it together with a dot I subscribed to them because I saw some good there, but now there are too many junky petitions. I'll be surprised if this comment makes it through the censors.

MizBejabbers:

I did not know that there were sites for on line petitions. Such a shame that some people in our country have nothing better to do with their time.

We create these monsters then pretend to be shocked when they act out. If that kid had stayed in Canada he would probably be singing on his Church Choir.

Bill, I agree with everything you say, and I’m glad you said it. You are in my age group so you are familiar with a young hellion named Wayne Newton, are you not? Justin Bieber reminds me so much of him. Wayne Newton now owns about half of Las Vegas.

At this point I don’t see where the spoiled Mr. Bieber has committed a FEDERAL crime. Last time I looked drag racing and the other miscreant deeds of which he has been accused are all local ordinances and state laws. The federal government probably wouldn’t have jurisdiction in this case. The feds are supposed to follow the law, not what a few indignant people want. What is the sense in deporting a bad influence and letting the Mexican Cartel stay?

Since the Internet allows for such, there are a number of websites popping up that allow anyone and his dog to file online petitions. Some of them make solid sense and I’m glad to see an outlet for them, but others are so much tripe that I cringe in embarrassment for them. I’m not sure where this particular partition originated, but it looks like it may have come from one of these sites.

Keep up your crusades for fairness and freedom, my friend. Voted you up++

Ya, really You can keep him. We're fine here without another kid egging houses (or igloos). By the way, I heard You Americans are not up to date with the egging thing - do kids there really not egg houses? Or knock on someone's door and run away before they can answer? Well, that's why Bieber is there I think: to teach You guys all the fun games kids play here.

I must say though, with all the corruption happening in the United States, I am glad people are taking their time to write petitions on deporting Justin Bieber, it really shows what the priorities are. And I am certain America's greatness will return once he is gone too (if he gets booted out).

Alrighty, enough of Bieber for me for the next twelve months at least (lol). Fun article. : )

Cheers!

Again like many others Billy I do not like Justin Bieber at all. For exactly the same reasons a shave been repeated by everyone on here.

One day he will end up a broke and very lonely person and this may well be his wake up call. Like you I do not believe that to deport him is the answer as there are so many bad influences out there day in day out for our youngsters we can all simply try and teach them right from wrong.

Thanks again Billy for another straight spoken and sobering article. Enjoy your day.

Eddy.

I like Justin Bieber because he came to the Philippines for the Yolanda victims and played basketball with them for almost an hour. I think it's sad that someone who was once so wholesome is getting trapped in what happens to a lot of celebrities who started out as child celebrities. I wish his parents would intervene and he could find his way back, just like Britney Spears did. When he was good, he was very, very good. That goodness can be brought back again if he gets the help that he needs. This was a fair and objective article, very well written with good points made.

It's a bit much to deport Justin Bieber over something like a DUI when too many Americans are doing that with just a slap on the wrist when caught. Thanks for sharing, Bill!

I had to hit every button on this article. How ludicrous to be talking about deporting Justin. I can think of hundreds of famous singers, actors and athletes that have done the same stuff and worse. I agree with you that it's very hypocritical to have this discussion on the Bieb's. Yes, he's a train wreck and has to grow up, but where's the news flash on this? There is no news flash. We've heard and seen all of this before. Great article Billy and thank you for the common sense discussion. I'm sharing this.

This train wreck should get the same treatment received as any other foreign national who breaks the laws of the host country. Citizenship confers rights, but he needs to remember he is a guest in this country.

I agree, Justin is a train wreck waiting to happen...it's a shame he doesn't have the proper guidance from those who are responsible for him, even though he is 19 yrs old. He obviously needs an intervention! Deporting him is not going to help the matter. On the flip side I could think of a few celebs I'd like to deport even though they are American citizens :)

I would prefer that Obama was deported to Kenya. As for JB I feel quite strongly that he is headed for disaster. He experienced fame without a foundation to handle the strain.

Justin-oh-how-I-detest-that-first-name Bieber is a rich young man thrown into an adult world with adult toys and no lesson plan or book of instructions. But is deportation the answer? If we deport one immature child star who is acting out and getting into trouble, we will be deporting many to be able to continue on their destructive path. I never saw deportation being offered to any of those non-citizen child actors of the 60s 70s 80s and 90s who were showing similar behavior with drug and alcohol trouble while they were growing up wealthy from early success. Many got their butts thrown in jail. Some came out better for it, some came out worse. It's a coin toss if jail will do its job depending on who one's jailhouse companions are. In the old days, rich kids went to rehabs, or parents to finally start doing their jobs, or some were sent to jail, or some died young deaths. Many child stars are never heard from again, for lots of reasons... falling back into the 'life', or the public quietly and effectively boycotted their career, or they're in jail, or they made other employment choices and are no longer in limelight.

Many were not US citizens, but did we deport them? No. Deporting him will not make Bieber's problems go away. We'd be transfering the problem to another jurisdiction, who has possibly less rigid laws, or more stringent, depending on the country.

But just like any USA children who get arrested for robbery, for dealing and using drugs and alcohol, do we choose the line of least resistance to punish them? No, we are proactive in punishing our own. Sending Bieber home is not a punishment because he still gets to keep all his toys and luxuries. It is ridding USA of one small pebble in a huge desert of sand pebbles and will make no difference in our country. Nor does it send a constructive message. "Break our laws, we will deport you." So what? It's not jail and it's not rehab; it is still freedom to continue more of the same behavior. I don't know the answer to the dilemma. I do know that a strict rehab is in order now, not 5 years from now. One where his money can't import drugs into the rehab like other famous people do. Why he is not already there, I don't understand. Interventions used to be popular. From what I see and read, his parents were never hands-on for this child. It is likely the parents do not want to lose the meal ticket they have come to enjoy. Deportation is the line of least resistance and clearly not the answer. Boycotting his career at every turn is probably the only answer. It would take a global conspiracy to make that happen.

I expected to settle down to read a billybuc hub on my favorite subject and ended up ranting and raving about a child star I have no love or like for. It is his situation and how it is being handled which struck a chord with me. I rarely comment in forums or hubs. Please don't take this as representative of how I conduct myself. I find myself saying this to you billybuc - which could possibly be what we will be hearing from Justin-oh-how-I-detest-that-first-name Bieber sometime soon:

Sir, I promise to exhibit better behavior in my future actions. Please don't deport me or boycott my work. LOL

awordlover -Rachael O'Halloran

Why We Should Not Deport Justin Bieber you surprised me with this title. I am not fan and find that he is a spoiled brat and what happened to him had happened very fast the kid is still in a dream world..

He was just a 'regular kid' until he found fame. I'm not sure how anyone thinks he should act when thrust into the lime light. He seems to be acting much like any other rock star does. LOL I cannot believe anyone even has their socks in a twist over this stuff. Too many more Real issues Americans need to face and Justin isn't on the top of my priority list. Nice hub.

I cannot agree more with you, Billy - "As much as I happen to dislike egotistical, over-hyped, questionable talent, I dislike hypocrisy even more, and this petition reeks of the type of hypocrisy the United States (and also South Africa) is famous for."

We may admire the talents and productions of so-called 'super stars', but really, they are all - or let me say 99% of them - perfect choices for psycho analysis. They are demonstrators of what should NOT be done while you are not earning your daily bread.

I can see what you mean, millions of people have probably done the very things they want to deport Justin Bieber for, so singling him out for deportation seems rather extreme, almost like scapegoating. Voted "interesting" because it is!

Justin Bieber? Really? You hub about him? Ahmm...this is something I wasn't expecting from you Bill but then again , I understand where you coming from in this article and so, thank you for another interesting read.

I honestly wasn't following any celeb news but JB's face is all over the media competing space with Toronto Mayor Rob Ford, so what choice do I have. Lol!

Poor boy(s), born with such skills and talents gone wasted.

And yes, please don’t toss anymore garbage here.

P.S. You can tell, I'm back on the ground...hubbing and singing JB's...."You know you love me, I know you care. Just shout whenever, and I'll be there ....baby, baby, baby, ooh..." ~ Okay, I'm teasing you. Goodnight Bill! Sending you some love from the sky!

Great hub Bill, and full of good points. I'm not a fan either, though millions are, that's why he is so rich and spoilt. Joelle commented earlier that the main problem is his parental guidance, and that's true. he became a star too early through youtube, and was virtually an overnight success. He didn't really have time to be trained in all the niceties and etiquette on being a star. It's happened to many others and will continue to be a problem.

Another thing is that the press and public thrive on notoriety. We don't want our stars to be dull and boring, or do we? They say 'any' publicity is good publicity. This may not always be the case, but in the case of entertainers it often appears to be true. While people continue to flock to his concerts they simply justify his actions, and those of others.

I think Robert Downey Junior is a great actor, but he hasn't exactly been well behaved and a good example. If you want to deport someone for being a bad influence, maybe begin with entire government.

My first reaction when I say your title was, "Oh, why not, can we please?" lol Because I feel exactly the same way about him that you do. However, I get your point and I agree with that, also. What determines "bad influence" was our parents, and now, our own common sense. I also agree that if people would quit paying to see these bozos, they wouldn't be as popular. I laughed out loud when I got to the part where you asked what Canada had done to us to deserve us throwing Justin Bieber back. Good stuff!

Billy,You have some pretty strong opinions on this. I reckon those who are for deportation have some pretty strong opinions also and if they have kids rightly so. I could care less one way or the other if Bieber is deported or runs off the track into a dung heap. The things is, what good would it do to deport him? I could think of many in high federal office who should be deported right quick before we worry about juvenile delinquets. Miley Cirus ... get rid of Bieber and we still have to put up with a pretty girl gone bad, really bad!!! Too much energy and attention is wasted on celebrities like Bieber and Cyrus -- we could direct that overly reacting energy to better use, like healing our country and fixing our government ills.

This boy is still a kid and I agree he is acting so like a brat. I don't listen to his music but he has a Christmas song at YouTube called Mistletoe, listen to it and tell me you don't like it billy? He is mentally about 12 because he made it big so young but if we want to send someone home why don't we start with the drug lords crossing our open borders daily? That is serious stuff, Bieber will do himself in if he doesn't wake up soon. He is a joke, murderer and drug pushers aren't, if we want to be serious about something enough for petitions like to make someone seal our borders. Please! Sure with you on this one, in fact was giving it your same thought yesterday. Some people have little to worry about, apparently.