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Fifa 10 Ultimate Team "The Trading Game"

Updated on June 2, 2011

I have written quite a few guides on fifa ultimate team as i seem to do rather well at trading,but i have not denoted an entire hub to just trading so here it is,My other hub Fifa 10 ultimate team tips and strategies went into detail a little about how to use trading cards as a way to increase the amount of coins at your disposal,however when this one page is attracting 1000 hits a day you can imagine how many questions i was getting asked constantly and it was becoming a bit of a task replying to them all so i have made this guide for dummies so that hopefully all questions about trading and earning coins will be answered in the following paragraphs,the main question i got was "how much i should sell so and so for" well unfortunately i do not keep all these answers in my head,some i could answer and some i could not,but what follows if read and carried out properly will enable people without a clue to be able to make a profit from trading players on ultimate team.

Starting off at scratch!!!!

Now i think the best place to start would be from the absolute beginning,now obviously you will have a rag tag of a team assembled and you will need to go out and win a few matches to get some starting coins,i would say 1500-2000 coins should be perfectly adequate and you should only need to win say 4-5 matches to do this,so approximately an hour later you should have the required funds.The next thing you will need to do is make your first trade,and ladies and gentlemen this is where you need to get it right,i would suggest going for a player that you know well,perhaps one you have brought before and one that without looking you know what to pay for him and what sort of mark up you will make.If I'm making suggestions a good one will always be Stuart Downing,mainly because he is an 81 rated winger which if you look, is better than both Theo Walcott and Shaun Wright Phillips who are highly rated and can both go for way over 5000 coins.Obviously markets fluctuate but you can usually get Downing for less than a thousand coins and usually sell him for BIn for at least 1500,You will need to do this a couple of times to get a few more hundred coins in the bank.Next up how to choose the correct players to buy.....

Choosing The Correct Players To Sell

This is the part where most people fall down and end up either, making a loss or getting bored of not being able to sell their player and losing interest in trading at all.I get asked every day either through this site or on xbox live "how much should i sell so and so for", and you know what, unless I'm familiar with the player i don't know,just because i wrote two guides on player prices i am apparently supposed to know all the players price tags off by heart,well i am a self confessed UT guru but I'm not memory man!!!.No, this is how i do it and how i have never lost coins on a deal even if i don't know the player that well,this will work for everyone no matter how unknowlegable you are about trading or football players,listen up this is the important bit ladies and gentlemen.....

Right you want to buy a player and then sell him on for a profit,fine,think of a player!!! did you say Craig Bellamy? OK fine lets use him as an example,Now i don't know what he goes for but this is how i would make a profit from him. Firstly go to the market place and search for gold players playing in the premiership as a forward for man city.right up he comes with a few other players,now note that he is welsh and what position,come back out and do the same search but with the extra options of nationality and position added.right up he comes all on his own look.Now choose to watch the first 20 Craig Bellamy's,right go off and play a match or do something else for half hour or so,now when you come back most of them would of sold or finished their time,you need to look through them and see the ones that sold,note the lowest price they sold for and the highest price they sold for.say the highest was 6000 and the lowest was 4100,then armed with this knowledge i would go off and try and buy a Craig Bellamy for around 4-4500 and sell for 5-5500,do not be greedy,sometimes it works but on the whole it doesn't.Try to be cheap but not the cheapest out of all the ones you search through,and that's it,you need to do some research people before you buy,it works from Stuart Downing to Christiano Ronaldo trust me.


I traded my way to these coins in less than a day!!!

Bidding

I have had a lot of questions also regarding bidding such as when should i bid and how to do it correctly so i don't end up paying to much for a player i will never sell.Well this is not the only way to do it but this is how i do it,Firstly i will only bid on a player that i have done a bit of research on, or one that i know off the top of my head what he sells for,so you will need to follow the above paragraphs first before you start bidding properly.Firstly i do a search for the player then i will only bid if the time allotted is less than 10 minutes,why? you may ask,well time is money and if i put in a bid on Rooney at 90,000 with 50 minutes to go,then i am down 90,000 coins for the next 50 minutes thus making it hard for me to bid on anyone else should i see a better deal.So bid with less than 10 minutes to go,i usually watch for a couple of minutes to try and gauge how many people are bidding then i will jump in with a minute left and make a bid.

Know Your Limit!!!!! know what the maximum you are willing to pay for the player to make a profit and stick to it,do not waiver.if the player is not worth more than 2000 do not pay 2400 just because some chump you have never met is bidding higher than you.With 14 seconds left i will make a slightly bigger bid,maybe upping the price by a few hundred just to try and shake up my opposition,then once I've made one bid i will make another one 50 coins higher immediately after and then again straight away after that so i have made 3 bids in less than 5 seconds.Why? because to my opposing bidders it looks like there are quite a few people bidding last minute which causes them to bail out.It does not always work but mostly it does.

Temptation

Temptation comes in all forms in life but one of the biggest temptations is to spend all your hard earned coins on gold packs......DO NOT DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trust me packs are just luck,sometimes your lucky and you get a good player sometimes you are not,the best i have done is getting Carlos Tevez in one pack and then in the next one i opened i got Theo Walcott,it happens but out of 100 packs i have opened that is as good as it gets.Again when you get to a certain amount of coins you may feel the need to hit the markets just to spend and improve your team,go ahead its worth it,if you buy say 88 rated Thierry Henry for 25000 you would be getting a good deal, if you spent 25000 on packs you would get 3 premium packs and would you get a player of his calibre in those 3 packs.??? highly unlikely,so spend away if you want just leave yourself with enough coins to start over again,i am now on my 5th time of starting from scratch but my team is improving all the time.Another good way of building your best squad is to do what i do,i will have say Berbatov up front and want to improve with all the coins i have made well i will just buy say hulk for instance at 16k then sell berbatov for 5k and at least i have made some of my coins back,it is surprising how many top class players you can get when you trade up like this.

Tips

Little tips i have learnt while on my fifa ultimate team journey, do not get a rubbish gold player and put him up for sale for 250 coins when you can just discard him and receive over 300 coins,also the shiny gold ones no matter how rubbish they are will get you 600 odd coins when discarded,remember that little fact people.Check what position the player is playing in before purchasing as you can make a mistake,i remember buying tevez for a bargain 12k but then looking down he was a Central Midfielder,and buying a card to convert him would of cost 4-5k so i had to put him up 5times before he sold,don't be caught out,secondly when bidding on certain players that are expensive such as David Villa or Fernando Torres,people will put in very similar players alongside that are worth nothing but put them up for the same kind of amount,ie they will be the same nationality or maybe even the same team so when flicking through it is hard to distinguish,don't be caught out buying a 79 rated player for 80,000 coins OK.

If your coin total was endless who would be the first player in your team?

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      euy35 7 years ago

      I just opened my first gold pack and i got a Di Natale 88, i was wondering roughly how many coins it's worth...

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      Leeds09 7 years ago

      anyone want to buy sergio aguero?

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @kezno no i agree with ur methods it is how i started and ammased a small fortune!!

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      Kezno7 7 years ago

      Yea i realised later on id made a mistake i meant its 5% of the final sale price which is multiplying it by 0.05 but i got confused and somehow met in the middle :S I wasnt trying to argue with your methods because following your tips is how i managed to build my coins up. Its just i find it harder to find top rated players for cheap. Its maybe that im looking for the wrong players but theres a lot of players i can pick up for 500 coins and sell for 2k+ and its less risk. But i guess people have their own methods and if we all did the same we would just build competition and be back to square one!

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @kezno7 i agree with what ur saying and think u may do ok at writing on here but i must pull you up on ur maths a bit,im not disputing the 0.5% as i havent done the research like u have but 0.5% of 40,000 is 200 not 2,000 so u are making 2,800 profit,but yeah u are right the smaller sums are better.The maths is 40,000 divided by 100 then times 0.5

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      kezno7 7 years ago

      I have mentioned before of writing my own hub. I do like your hubs but so far the ones i have seen seem to have no concept on actual profit. When you list an item it says they will take a percentage of the price which it goes for. I monitored what players i sold and for how much and calculated what that percentage actually is. 0.5% is the amount they take from all sold items, this doesnt sound like much but is evidence that trading cheap players is the best way to make PROFIT. For example if you buy drogba for 37K and sell him for 40K people think they are making 3K profit, wrong. If you take off the percentage that is taken off the 40K (0.5x40K=2K) you are only making 1K profit. This means that finding players for 500 and selling them for 2K (easily done) is more profitable and much easier with less cash tied up in transactions. If people find this information useful let me know and i will start writing hubs about different aspects of the game in more depth.

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      Clue 7 years ago

      oh and another good buy for about 1000 is carrick, i have got him for that twice now and got 2000 each time, could probably get more just dont want to push my luck

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      Clue 7 years ago

      I've been following your hubs and made about 2000 coins in 20 mins, so ive been very impressed so far... but thing is ive just bought walcott for 9000 thinking that was good. WIth the other buys i did research but for him i didn't bother, now im worried ive made a big mistake. do you think ill be able to sell him for 10,000?

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      ethanh55 7 years ago

      if u wanted to keep anelka just trade him

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @sam only you can decide that my friend!

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      sam 7 years ago

      can u answer me this question i want to start again but i have good players like anelka and i have 1 over 40trophies should i start again or not

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      mark1984 7 years ago

      Missak 15 packs at 7,500k a time and u got milito 88. That was the point being made u had to spend about 120k to get a decent player.

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      misaak 7 years ago

      when you wrote the bit on temptation, i think you just had bad luck. i got milito (88) and had only opened like 15 packs

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @ryan havent played for 3 days now,my team changed a little i added fabregas to the midfield,just having lots of renovation done on my house so its hard to get the time

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      warchild do u still play fifa i noticed ur team hasnt changes for like a week

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      andygiven96 7 years ago

      i just got barry (84) for 650

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @robbie LFC yeah ok i will write one about that,dont think it will be that long though thats the only thing,i have added you robbie but as u may have noticed i tend not to accept party invitations only because a lot of the time i accept and then find out that the person im talking to has 5 of his fifa friends in on the party and i just get bombarded with questions,no offence,if you want to ask something then send me a private chat invite.

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      Robbie LFC 7 years ago

      @warchild yeah write one about that!!!!!

      i would love that!

      in some of your hubs im sitting there wondering :O how did you get that fella for that price?? lol

      i think you should do one final hub before you move on to UFC.

      also who are you currently on the search for in the market?

      ive got a tip of my own. if you think your in a bidding war with one person.. bid when the controller vibrates at like 3 second, they just give up and youll get a bargain?

      my greatest bargain was zanetti for 6k sold for 15k

      Feel free to add me on live and add me to a part, im always uo for a good trade!

      xbox live: Robb017

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @moc yeah thats true i could do,i seem to be able to get bargains all the time!!Maybe

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      moc123 7 years ago

      u could do about how to get bargains

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @ryan yeah i could do if i knew how to win tournaments lol!!!

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      Wright a hub about how to win online tournaments!!!!

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty to be honest i had thought about winding it up as the next decent game to come out is ufc 2010 undisputed at end of may and im something of an expert at that too, so will be doing a few hubs on that one,unless of course anyone has any ideas for what they would like to see me wright about with regards to Fifa UT???

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      @warchild R u going to be doing anymore hubs on fifa ultimate team

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @robbie lfc xavi and fabregas are very good and are what i tend to buy all the time,i would stick with the cheap or intermediate players as oppose to buying the more expensive ones.

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      Robbie LFC 7 years ago

      hi warchild i have added you on live buy the way its Robb017.

      i have 77k from your method and its really helpful.

      to make money do you buy small players or large players like maicon etc. because i am not making huge profits so fast.

      i have the buying cracked but im not the greatest at selling.

      i do have common sence though like researching players, bidding 3 times at once. but do you have any tips who i should buy? i know you like to keep your secrets lol but who can you make at least 4k profit on each time??

      ive bought xavi, fabregas, zanetti, tevez, there all good at selling but do you have any tips for me??

      thanks great hub by the way.

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      Yh next time am on a will do that thanks

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty nice one,may i suggest getting arbeloa who is a 83 rated spanish rb who is better then glen johnson and only about 5000 then swap both cb and cm spanish guys over to one side to match up with arbeloa!!!

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      Post another link to your current squad with new players and i will see what i can do!!

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      Just bought CDM xavi and swapped him with carrick then swapped de rossi and xavi roun and the chemistry is still at 87

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty glad i could help,not much difference between ballack and carrick but the chemistry could help when playing,I'll have a look and see if i can help anywhere else!!

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      Chemistry goes up to 87 nice idea

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty swap de rossi for ballack then change ballack for carrick and see what it does for your chemistry ;)

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      Yh a wos gunna buy xavi but a dont have enough money at the minute

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty yes it has thats a nice strong midfield you got there m8 i like it,think maybe you could improve your chemistry by maybe buying fabregas to replace ballack,as he would match well with puyol,just a thought

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      Dont know m8 but even when i copy and paste the address into a seperate tab it still comes up as mine,try it again m8 got to share then copy and then paste it straight here!!

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      How is that i copied the link from the top of the page i had my team on

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty i do believe that is my team u have posted a link for matty and yes it is a rather good team lol

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      mattynufc 7 years ago

      take a look at my team

      http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/ultimateteam/app

      still looking for a new left back

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      moc123 7 years ago

      i sold droba 4 33k bin and in 1 in he was sold, unbelieveable

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      Anelka if

      u can get him for less than 20

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      @warchild who would you recomend i trade that costs less than 25000 as i went on a 100000 speding spree

      thanks

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty yes i do,in fact just a few hours ago i got two of him one for 28450 and one for 29000 sold one for 34950 and one for 33950 as he didnt sell first time

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      @warchild do you still buy and sell fabregas because i can never find him for cheap anymore

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @moc if u could find drogba at 19.5k and then resell at 30 which is what he usually goes for,ud be mad not too!!!

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      moc123 7 years ago

      y ? i bought him cheap and i think it is pretty good bargain

      oh and i just won the jester open tour so i dont need to start from scratch anymore

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      i think u need to find drogba again at the lowest price ihave ever seen and resell him quick

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      moc123 7 years ago

      nevermind warchild just bought van persie 25k bin

      and drogba st 4-4-1-1 19.5k bin

      now i need to start from scratch all over again got 45 coins and now what do u think i can do ?

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty about 12,000 as i went on a 160,000 spending spree lol,i'll be on in an hour or so!!

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      @warchild how much money do you have at the moment

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      Thought u might say that

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @matty nope!!! sorry!!

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      @Warchild75 a will buy drogba but for less than 30000

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      Stefan got more tips coming out soon!!

      @moc i have a drogba how much u wanna pay!!!?

      @rob not really m8 ur get more cash if he is a certain formation such as 4-3-3 or 4-4-2,lescott has dropped in price rapidly and i doubt u would get much more than 5k

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      Rob 7 years ago

      Hi. How much does the value of a player go up if you have lots of contracts on them. Ie. I have a lescott with 50 contract how much would he go for?

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      TH3 7DAY TH3ORY 7 years ago

      Sorry just realised that warchild already replied to you Mattynufc

      :)

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      TH3 7DAY TH3ORY 7 years ago

      @Mattynufc

      im pretty sure the best RB in the game is Maicon? there is a 91 in form version of him now a believe. i just bought the 89 of him n theres not much difference tbh

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      moc123 7 years ago

      dont worry i bought RVP 4 25k bin, and now lookin 4 drogba to complete my pattnership

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      is 20k and bin of 25k good price for anelka

      and my persona is R3CON95

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      moc123 7 years ago

      wat about RVP warchild ?

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      StefanS. 7 years ago

      okay thanks. but than i grow much slower than you. normally i buy 2 players at night and the other day i sell it at peak so i think ~4k per day profit. not 50k :/ have you any other tips ?

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @ryan i will add you whats ur name on that site?

      @moc about 30,000

      @stefan it is better to buy off peak but you can still make a profit even at weekends during the day,just do your research on a player before commiting to buy

      @Matty There is an 89 rated sergio ramos who is pretty good but The best skill wise is the uprated Maicon who is 91 i think he is rwb but can be changed to rb

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      kevin 7 years ago

      sergio ramos i think

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      Mattynufc 7 years ago

      Who is the best right back in the game

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      StefanS. 7 years ago

      I have another Question. When do you buy players. At the moment i have ~ 18000 and i think it works good. But i have problems to buy players for a good price at peak. so that i have to buy them out of peak and sell them later. but that need a lot of time from non peak to peak. I cant buy sell buy sell to get faster more money

      regards

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      moc123 7 years ago

      do u know how much is the cheapest didier grogba on the market ?

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      sweet...im thinking about selling my team...but can u add me one that ea footballworld thing

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @ryan my next hub is what players to buy in what price bracket ranging from 0-10k up to 90-100k the players that sell the best,its just hard finding some players in certain brackets,i say the more expensive the player the harder to get a profit.!!

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      Ali 7 years ago

      @Ryan only on xbox. Wish they did do that though because i wanted to trade whilst on holiday to keep up with the market lol

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      ryan 7 years ago

      is there a way you can trade online on the computer or only one xbox?

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      TH3 7DAY TH3ORY 7 years ago

      Sorted my problem :) i bought pato ST and he plays amazing with eto'o and just won an online tournie straight after :D

      taiwo and pato my saviours lol

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      ryan 7 years ago

      thanks so whats you next hub gunnabe on? :)

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      TH3 7DAY TH3ORY 7 years ago

      yea ive got taiwo aswell but not the in form. i might just let my chemistry drop a bit for a little bit more skill in the team then. thanks man

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      xDBx George =) 7 years ago

      yeh but i have nothing

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @xdbx george i wouldnt worry as i only have 10,000 m8

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      xDBx George =) 7 years ago

      i only have 4k on fifa now and i dont know hwho to buy to make my money back. any suggestions?

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      Not worth the hassle,man ive got a 86 rated team and 87 chemistry and im happy with that.my LB is taiwo and he is not in the same league or team as any of my other players,who cares!!!my team still does great.!!

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      TH3 7DAY TH3ORY 7 years ago

      yea man ive tried that and i cant find anybody good to be honest. is it worth me selling my team and trying to go for premier league maybe? or is it not worth the hassle for the same thing to happen again?

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @ th3 7day th3ory i always say if ur chemistry is higher than ur team rating your be ok,have u tried getting a lb that isnt italian but plays in the italian league that would be my next step to a higher chemistry!!

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      TH3 7DAY TH3ORY 7 years ago

      Really want to know if chemistry really matters? i have a pretty good team but i dont like the fact that im limited. for example i cant find many good LB because there are none who play in the italian league. If i just buy a brilliant defender from any league that has no chemistry with the players around him will this really be a bad thing??

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @ryan thats surprising anelka should go for that,i would say starting of 19k and BIN of 24

      @Jean + xdbx george thanks for the comments guys its nice to have some positive ones for a change!!!!!

      P.s new hub out soon

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      xDBx George =) 7 years ago

      nice Hub again, your awsome at FUT this really helped me when i started!!!

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      jean 7 years ago

      very nice blog with a lot of useful information. i bookmarked ur site

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      i tried to sell anelka for 24k but no one picked him up so im just gunna keep him whats a good starting price for him

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @moc that is cheap wel done,i would consider putting him up,reckon ud get 25 and make 7,000 profit!!

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      moc123 7 years ago

      oh dont worry guy i just bought him 4 18k cheapest on the market

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @moc i have anelka make an offer better than the one above and he may be yours!!

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      @moc sorry man im using him in my squad right now

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      moc123 7 years ago

      ryan i will pay 17k + carrick 4 him ?

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @ryan currently right now there is no real popular players going for that amount,i would save another 3-4k and get Fabregas for less than 30,it is possible as i have done it 7 times,he will then always sell at 34950.Always!!

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      alright warchild i have 26,000 coins would have 30,000 but decided to buy one more premium gold...guess what was in it nicholas anelka haha but who can i make a profit of of for around 26

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @mb done!!

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @tommy done!!!

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      lee 7 years ago from Worthing, west sussex, england

      @ali thanks for that i'll bear it in mind,

      @ryan i have had that before ryan,its a bit annoying,i tried logging in with a different computer which seemed to do the trick,dont know why customer support isnt working though

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      when i hit manage squad to try and up load my ultimate team it says the page can not be found and tell me to go to customer support but when i go to customer support i cant wright a letter..

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      Ali 7 years ago

      What favour is it ryan and also what customer suport question do you need to send. Perhaps i can help.

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      Ryan 7 years ago

      i still cant get the website to work and i dont know how to send in the questions so can you do me a favor and send one onf those customer support questions in for me or tell me what to do

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      Ali 7 years ago

      Yeah sorry :P lol one thing lead to another as they usually do lol. Btw If that were my team id consider playing a dm in that centre cm position or on the left cm to keep chem then change in game. Toure of Barcelona would be good.