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Christmas is Not Necessarily Christian

Updated on December 7, 2013

Jesus' Birth or Some Other Reason?

Jesus' Birth wasn't a big deal, at the actual time!
Jesus' Birth wasn't a big deal, at the actual time! | Source

Nor Religious

Whatever you may call this time of year or how ever you may celebrate it, we as a whole are some what misinformed of the origins of Christmas falling on the 25th December every year. Today's Christmas is often recognised as a birthday of Jesus, son of Mary and Joseph, son of God - or at least the Christian God. By secular society - it is recognised as a holiday with religious significance yet is more about getting together to celebrate with family and friends over a large meal.

It did not begin in this way. The 25th of December has been recognised since Pre-Christian times - so, before Jesus was a 'twinkle' in God's eye. Even the other symbols associated (aside from Jesus) with Christmas are from Pre-Christian Roman Pagans. So it is my intent to provide more information - not to take it away from the Christian population nor give it to anyone else - more give more information as to the actual significance of the holiday aside of JC's birthday.

Popular myth does put Jesus' birthday around the 25th of Dec the year 1 C.E. However the New Testament gives no date, nor year on the date of his birth. This suggests that early Christians had no knowledge or interest in his birth. The first mention is the baptism of an adult Jesus in the Gospel of Mark. A Roman monk worked out his birth date using a series of calculations as follows:

  1. In the Roman, pre-Christian era, years were counted from ab urbe condita (“the founding of the City” [Rome]). Thus 1 AUC signifies the year Rome was founded, 5 AUC signifies the 5th year of Rome’s reign, etc.
  2. b. Dionysius received a tradition that the Roman emperor Augustus reigned 43 years, and was followed by the emperor Tiberius.
  3. c. Luke 3:1,23 indicates that when Jesus turned 30 years old, it was the 15th year of Tiberius reign.
  4. d. If Jesus was 30 years old in Tiberius’ reign, then he lived 15 years under Augustus (placing Jesus birth in Augustus’ 28th year of reign).
  5. e. Augustus took power in 727 AUC. Therefore, Dionysius put Jesus birth in 754 AUC.
  6. f. However, Luke 1:5 places Jesus’ birth in the days of Herod, and Herod died in 750 AUC – four years before the year in which Dionysius places Jesus birth. (


Blessed Yule!
Blessed Yule! | Source

Pagan Beginnings

Pre-Christian Pagans are a little different to modern Pagans, though the Modern Pagans have had a bit of technological advancement and the understanding of the world around us than previously. Pagans were considered to be the "non-christians" as the religion of Christianity began to rise in popularity - so were considered to be many of the Romans.

The longest night, or solstice, is often around Dec 21st for those populations who are in their winter at the end of the year (unlike myself - Dec 21st is the shortest night/longest day in Summer). This is a significant time in the life of people trying to forge an existence - it's significant to crops, nature and many other things. The Roman's celebrated a period of 'lawlessness' where the courts were closed, and no one could be charged for bad behaviour. It also involved huge feasts, and indulgence - both of food and other activities (wink wink). At the end of this week (17th-25th Dec) those who had been taken in by those who were up in the world of Romans were...discarded or murdered. So, not really a celebration - at least for those who died.

Pagans again pre-exist the Romans. Yet little is known to this author about their existence and what it entailed other than the celebration of the solstice and it's significance to nature. Perhaps this will be another hub in progress.

It Matters Not

Really, it doesn't. Celebrate it how you want to celebrate it - hannukah, Christmas as Christ's birthday, Christmas as a celebration of family and friends. What matters is that you remember what is important - education, information, and those who you love. Regardless of their religious beliefs, their orientations, their thoughts on Christ. Christmas is about celebrating the existance of other people in our lives.

For an idea about the importance of other people - perhaps a good thing to do this Christmas is take someone in who is spending it alone. Be that a family member ousted from Xmas years ago for something - being gay in a religious family, a previous transgression that all have forgotten but not forgotten, an old family feud that no longer bears relevance. OR be it someone who doesn't have family to spend it with, or heck, even a home to spend it in.

It's about being good to one another.

Merry Christmas! Happy Hannukah!Blessed Yule/Solstice!


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    • jonnycomelately profile image


      3 years ago from Tasmania

      It might be a good idea if we returned to those pagan debaucheries at christmas time....but then, us Happy Hubbers might be speedily despatched for having taken too many liberties with the Romans here on line.

      Anyway, wishing everyone of you folks that which you wish for; enough food to keep hunger from your belly; enough drink to help you enjoy yourself; and the warmth of knowing that someone else cares about you and the desire to share your own good fortunes.

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      Joseph O Polanco 

      3 years ago

      Very well researched. You've done a great job at uncovering the Antichristian origins of Christmas :)

    • jlpark profile imageAUTHOR


      3 years ago from New Zealand

      Thanks Spongy0llama for your comments! Thats kinda what I was saying, yes! Thanks for elaborating.

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      Jake Brannen 

      3 years ago from Canada

      Very interesting. You touch on things that I did in my most recent hub. I very much support awareness of the pagan traditions on which modern Christmas celebrations are based.

      I think the distinction between pre-Christian and modern paganism you are trying to point out is the difference between ancient polytheistic superstitions, such as those exemplified by the Greek, Roman, and Norse gods of ancient Greece, Rome, and Scandinavia respectively, and modern neopaganism which has its roots in the new age movement which has been taking hold predominantly in North America since the 1970s.

    • jlpark profile imageAUTHOR


      3 years ago from New Zealand

      We can get SNL though I don't think it's live. I'll have to go have a look - thanks for your comments Billie.

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      Billie Kelpin 

      3 years ago from Newport Beach

      Forgive my ignorance, but I don't know if you get live viewing of Saturday Night Live in New Zealand. Chris Rock's monologue on the commercialization of Christmas was soo funny. It sort of explains why Christmas is fun for everyone :) And I love the SNL "Christmas Time for the Jews" There's a youtube video of that if you search. Seriously, this hub has a lot of truisms.

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      Rachael Fields 

      4 years ago from KC, MO

      This is great. Our family doesn't consider ourselves any sort of religion. We still countdown to Christmas with all sorts of fun stuff. You can check out our countdown on the blog! ;)

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      Anthony Ashford 

      5 years ago from Fort Wayne, IN

      I've been curious about the history of Christmas, and I knew that it has something to do with Romans, debauchery, and killing people, but thank you for provide me with a little insight.

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      Chris Mills 

      5 years ago from Flagstaff, AZ

      The world we live in is such a melting pot. I think that has come and gone throughout history though. We are surrounded by people who see Christmas differently from us. As you said, we don't need an exact birth date. We just need to focus one loving and giving. Thanks for the interesting hub. voted interesting.

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      5 years ago from Home Sweet Home

      Nowadays, non christian also celebrate christmas. It is a joyful event to welcome winter and experience the beautiful feeling of Christmas. My friends who are non-christian are celebrating too. Voted useful


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