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The Writer's Mailbag: Installment 176

Updated on November 13, 2017

How Do We Get There?

I was sitting at my desk, diligently working on this week’s Mailbag, when a flash from the past invaded my thoughts.

A friend of mine and I were invited to a wedding up in Seattle, sixty miles to the north. We left Olympia with plenty of time to spare. It is normally about a one-hour drive to Seattle, taking Interstate 5, so we left a full two hours before the event, figuring if we got there early we could always stop and enjoy a coffee beforehand.

There was an accident on I-5 and it was backed up for miles. Suddenly our “leaving early” did not appear to be so early after all. My friend voiced concern but I simply told her “no sweat, I know a different way to get there,” and I took the next exit, switched over to Highway 99, and we made it north on that arterial with fifteen minutes to spare.

The point of that story is this: there are different routes in any profession to get to the same finish line. One writer may do things one way; another writer may use a completely different approach. Neither is right, neither is wrong, in most cases. We are all here to learn from each other and that, I think, is the great value of this series.

Shall we?

The Mail Room welcomes you!
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From Anusha on Using Public Photos

Last week we had a question about using public photos. One of our readers disagreed with my answer, and here is her response for those who missed it:

“This mailbag proved to be somewhat thought-provoking to me. I kinda don't agree with you when it comes to shooting people in public. I did my own research and it turns out that while in my country also, there is not a specific law to prevent people from being photographed without their knowledge, consent or permission, there have been multiple incidences where people, especially women, slapped eve-teasing cases against the photographers.

“And there are laws in some states for minors. In the state of Florida, as per my search, there are laws which will prevent anyone except parents to photograph kids.

“On websites like Pixabay also, model releases are compulsory if the model in the picture is recognizable. Only celebrities are denied this right, which entails that, if journalists take their pictures, that would not require a model release. And yet, generally reporters ask for permission, and celebrities pose for them.

“I personally feel that even if there are no laws, we should respect our fellow humans' right to know that they are being photographed, and let them either accept or deny the shot.

“In reality, in my humble opinion, the intent is important. If decent people, like say, deep thinking authors would even say that it's okay to click pictures without permission and use them, since there are no laws against it, think about the freedom from any moral obligation that would be felt. And the more people do it, the more common it seems, the more difficult it would become to detect and stop creepy advances from perverts.”

Thank you, Anusha! I appreciate your thoughts.

Do I need to obtain permission from all these people before publishing this photo?
Do I need to obtain permission from all these people before publishing this photo? | Source

Colon and Semicolon

From Eric: All right, I am sure you addressed this before, but go through the comma the semi-colon and the colon. Pretty please.

Eric we have, in fact, gone over this before but, since it’s you asking all nice and everything, I’ll cover it briefly once more.

Colons are generally used to introduce a list or some other explanatory phrase. Our friends at The Writer give this definition of a colon: “To announce, introduce, or direct attention to a list, a noun or noun phrase, a quotation, or an example/explanation.”

You can use a colon to draw attention to many things in your writing.

Example . . . There are several things wrong with raising chickens: poop, poop, and poop!

Semicolons connect two independent clauses which are closely related.

Example . . . There is no right or wrong way to perform that task; however, my way is the most direct path to success.

There are several other uses for both the colon and semicolon, but those mentioned are the most common. I had a writing coach once tell me never to use a semicolon in fiction. I forget why she suggested that, but I’ve tried to stay true to it. I definitely never use a semicolon in dialogue.

Poems and Photos

From Rasma: “Another awesome mailbag. Gathering the courage and preparing to get my e-book of poems together. I will have to go the whole process myself putting together, reading through and finally to publishing. Now about photos I would like to add photos with my poems. What is best using my own photos or taking from Pixabay. Is it alright to not use any photos?”

Well, Rasma, first of all, best wishes with that book of poems. As for your questions, the best way is the way you prefer. If it is my choice I will always use my own pics, but that’s just a personal preference. Is it all right to use no photos? Of course it is. It’s your book, Rasma, and in the end, the person you have to answer to is you. I think photos lend a special something extra to a poem but again, that’s my preference. There are no rules etched in stone regarding this.

1st or 3rd Person When Writing a Novel?

From Linda: “When writing a novel, is it better to write in 1st or 3rd person? Is it a matter of your (author) comfort level, or style, or what???”

Great question, Linda! The quick answer to your question is neither one is “better.” Which you use is completely a matter of comfort level and style. I can tell you why one would use 1st person or 3rd person, but I can’t tell you which is best.

1st Person is used to tell the story from the storyteller’s point of view. Pronouns such as “I” and “we” are used in telling the story. 3rd person tells the story from an observer’s point of view, and pronouns like “he,” “she,” and “they” are used in telling the story.

Some people say that 1st person writing is limiting because the story is only told through the eyes of one person, the storyteller. The reader is not given insights into what the other characters are thinking. 3rd person allows the reader to know what everyone in the story is thinking. Personally I prefer 1st person, and almost all of my writing is done in 1st person. However, I have experimented with mixing 1st and 3rd in the same novel and it has worked out fine. Throughout most of the novel I will write in 1st person, but there will be the occasional chapter where I’ll switch to 3rd person to get into the mind of another character. It is perfectly acceptable to do so, and it can be quite effective.

And Now It’s Time to Go

“Well, my friends, the time has come

To raise the roof and have some fun
Throw away the work to be done
Let the music play on
(Play on, play on)

Everbody sing, everybody dance
Lose yourself in wild romance
We're going to party
Karamu, fiesta, forever
Come on and sing along!”

Thank you, Lionel Ritchie!

It doesn’t matter how you get there; just get there!

2017 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”


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      Bill Holland 3 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      I wonder that too, Jo! I see evidence almost daily that it is not.

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      Jo Miller 3 weeks ago from Tennessee

      Thanks for including the punctuation lesson this week. I wonder sometimes if that is even taught in school any more. Many seem to ignore those rules.

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      Bill Holland 3 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      I've never tried that site, Lori, but on your recommendation I'll go take a look at it. Thank you!

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      Lori Colbo 3 weeks ago from Pacific Northwest

      Good Mailbag. I've noticed you use only your own photos. That would be my preference but I usually have none to go with my topics. Now I use almost exclusively Pixabay. They rarely disappoint me.

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      Bill Holland 3 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Anusha! Actually, it isn't a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. I appreciate your perspective and it is food for thought, which is exactly what I wanted this Mailbag to be from the very beginning, an open exchange of thoughts about writing.

      I look forward to your suggestion.

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      Anusha Jain 3 weeks ago from Delhi, India

      Hey, it was a pleasant surprise to see my comment here. It reminded me of one of my favorite quotations.

      "An educated mind has the capability of entertaining an idea without accepting it."

      I know you don't agree with me, but I think there is a good example of respecting an opinion -- entertaining it, without accepting it.

      The first person, third person question made me think of the Twilight Saga. I loved all the four books. In the last one, the writer marks the sections with the character who lends us his/her perspective for that section. In fact, Ms Meyers had begun rewriting the first book, just from a differnet perspective. She never finished it, but it was deliriously enchanting.

      A differnet perspective adds so much, extends so much, that indeed choosing one of the available ones is a difficult task, and should be done with a lot of care.

      At the risk of sounding repetitive, a great mailbag. And I have a suggestion for you. But, this one is a long comment already, I'll come back with it in either the next installment, or one of the older ones I've started digging.

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      Bill Holland 3 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks for sharing, Devika! I think you'll be fine as long as you don't stalk anyone. :)

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      Bill Holland 3 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Dream On, I think that's a great idea about the pics. I might do that with my pics of me and get rid of the wrinkles. LOL

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      Devika Primić 4 weeks ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      I learned a lot from your insight here. I sometimes use photos from shutterstock but try to use mine in most hubs.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Venkatachari M. I appreciate you always.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Rasma, that's my approach. The odds of anyone seeing my articles and being offended by a random shot of them are so minimal, it's not worth me being concerned about.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Mary, I have no doubt you'll reach your destination. Besides, the joy is in the journey and always has been. Best wishes and thank you.

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      DREAM ON 4 weeks ago

      I just want you to know reading your comments on your hubs is just like reading your hub. The people that post ask such good questions by the time I read them all I have all my prayers answered. At least for now. I wonder if I could still take pictures of people and photo shop different heads on their bodies. Who would care then ? I am in the grey area. Thanks so much. Have a splendid afternoon.

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      Venkatachari M 4 weeks ago from Hyderabad, India

      Nice mailbag. Enjoyed your great answers as well as the jolly mood with that ending song quoted from Lionel Ritchie.

      Eric's question refreshing the knowledge on usage of colon and semicolon and Linda's question about first person and third person usage served the purpose of sharpening our knowledge. Thanks to both of them also for asking them again.

      I respect Anusha's thoughts and advice on usage of photos.

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 4 weeks ago from Riga, Latvia

      Thank you for your reply. I guess I will use my own photos and see how it goes from there. Slowly but surely I am gathering my poems together and making my choices.

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      Mary Norton 4 weeks ago from Ontario, Canada

      I like your idea of writers having different options like taking different routes. My problem is I get lost in the exploration and not reach the finish line. I know I just need to have more discipline as you do. Another great instalment.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Different strokes for sure, Jackie! 3rd person is hard for me. I keep slipping back in to 1st. :) Thanks my friend.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Peg, I'm laughing about the advertisement. I never noticed. LOL Talk about tunnel vision.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Chitrangada Sharan! You are appreciated.

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      Jackie Lynnley 4 weeks ago from The Beautiful South

      Glad I caught this one Bill. I so agree with being glad there are different ways to reach the same point. It would be so boring if not...like robots.

      I hate writing in first person. I trip over the I's! You do it well though so back to that different strokes, huh?

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      Peg Cole 4 weeks ago from Dallas, Texas

      A thought provoking installment in light of recent conversations about using photos taken of people in public spaces. I may go in and change some of the ones I've posted even though I took the pictures. Hmm.

      And I was glad to read your thoughts on mixing up 1st and 3rd person in the same book. That is reassuring.

      Wow, I just noticed that the State Farm advertisement on the page was written in Chinese or Japanese.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Fascinating approach to a novel, Brian. I'm not sure I could follow along. I have tried the multiple approach on a limited basis, but a whole novel? Different time periods? It would require a monumental effort for sure.

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      Chitrangada Sharan 4 weeks ago from New Delhi, India

      Great mailbag and I loved your introductory paragraph! What a wonderful way to explain that important message!

      The question regarding using photos—I try to use my own photos as much as possible.

      The questions and answers are very useful as always.

      Thanks for sharing!

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Bill, I guess it's something for us all to think about. I tend to lean towards using the shots without permission, but that's just me.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Aww, thank you Dora! I happen to think that as well. This is where the cool kids hang out.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      You are a jewell, Melissa! Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      I think we all do, Marion! Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Monday the answer shall be revealed, Zulma. Thank you for keeping the Mailbag alive with great questions.

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      Brian Leekley 4 weeks ago from Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA

      True about the limits of writing a novel in the first person. I wrote such a novel a few years ago, and I'm going to rewrite it one of these years. The narrator/main character investigates a cold-case murder. Whenever he learns of a long-ago incident at which he was not present, I have him imagine what happened. His imagination gives scenes vivid, dramatic immediacy.

      I've been reading LOVE MEDICINE by Louise Erdrich and learning a lot about creating characters. The chapters jump about in time: 1981, 1934, 1948, 1957, etc. Sometimes the story is told in 1st person, sometimes in 3rd person. Multiple characters have turns being the first person narrator, and at different chapters the same narrator might be a child, young adult, middle-aged adult, or old adult -- not necessarily in that order. So we see characters as they see themselves and as others see them at different times. It all works beautifully and powerfully. If I ever read LOVE MEDICINE again, I'll create family trees of the families of the characters to remind me who is who. The novel is about life on an Indian reservation in North Dakota.

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      Bill De Giulio 4 weeks ago from Massachusetts

      Hi Bill. Another great week for the mailbag. The question about photos is of particular interest. When I use photos with people in them I do wonder if I should or should not? I try to strictly use my own photos in articles and only with people I know and won’t mind. But, one of the things I like to do when traveling is to photograph locals going about their business. I try not to use these in articles but does that really matter to them? Most of the time they don’t even know I took their picture. Am I invading their privacy? Will have to think about this. Anyway, have a great week.

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      Dora Weithers 4 weeks ago from The Caribbean

      This mailbag has become a regular hangout spot. It's one of the best happenings on HubPages! Thanks, Bill.

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      Melissa Propp 4 weeks ago from Minnesota

      Happy Monday Bill! It's crazy busy at my work place, so finally getting a chance to sneak in and read my mailbag. Makes me remember why Monday's aren't COMPLETELY horrible... LOL

      Have a great and productive rest of the week!

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      Marion Drury 4 weeks ago from Sydney, Australia

      Another great mailbag. I learn something new every time. Thanks once again.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      As am I, Pop! Let's sing together, my friend!

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Manatita! I do think it is a personal call on the photo thing. A little common sense goes a long way.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Right about now, Mike, palm trees sound wonderful. Thanks for the image.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kristen! I appreciate you sharing that with us.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Flourish, that's hilarious! Your poor daughter but hey, that's one of the perks of being a parent, right? LOL

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Mary, I don't know that it is required on any sites, writing a bio in 3rd, but I've seen it many times. Just seems odd to me, like an out-of-body experience. :)

      I love scenery, by the way

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      MizB, if I had to get the permission of everyone in one of my shots, I would sell my camera. Seriously! I am too old to be bothered by all this crap we hear about nowadays.

      Thanks, as always, for being here my friend. Winter has arrived, winds and rain, but the woodstove is keeping it all at bay.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Larry! I live for the journey. I'm not sure if I'll ever reach the destination, but that's okay.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Ann, I think you and I have neighbors who are related. I've given up trying to deal with ours. Now I just ignore him. He can't bother me if I don't acknowledge his existence, right? That's the theory, anyway.

      A good Monday it has been, and I'm happy to hear your's was as well.

      bill

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 4 weeks ago from United Kingdom

      The question about 1st and 3rd person got me thinking. Present or past tense. Are they mutually exclusive or can you mix them?

      For example, can you use present tense to write about what the character is doing now, but change to past tense to explain a past event in the characters life.

      I'm not sure I explained that well but I suppose we can discuss that in the next mailbag, perhaps.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      I try, Eric! I try!

      Thanks my friend!

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      For the most part yes, Linda. I'll cover it a bit in the next Mailbag.

      As always, thanks for being here. No time out in the corner for you. You make good cookies and the teacher will always reward that.

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      breakfastpop 4 weeks ago

      I'm singing, Billy.....

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      manatita44 4 weeks ago from london

      Lol. Well you got there all right with your poetry, using Lionel's touch. Ha ha.

      Another great mailbag. This photo thing is a very sensitive subject. Good to see that you left it at that. Peace Bro.

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      mckbirdbks 4 weeks ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

      Hello Bill, I veered off Highway 15, and onto Parkway Calabasas, now I don't know where I am, but there are palm trees.

      Great mailbag.

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      Kristen Howe 4 weeks ago from Northeast Ohio

      Great mailbag as always Bil. Very encouraging. I tend to write in 3rd person 95% of the time, the other 5% is for 1st person.

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      FlourishAnyway 4 weeks ago from USA

      I was very interested in Anusha’s perspective. I took photos of a guy on a beach with so much back hair he looked like Sasquatch. I thought I was being clandestine (even though there were very few people on the beach) but then he waved. My daughter was mortified but I laughed real hard and waved back.

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      Mary Wickison 4 weeks ago from Brazil

      I too don't use semicolons although, after a recent HP edit, my article was peppered with them.

      I find writing a profile in 3rd person odd but if that's what they want, that's what they'll get.

      You're right of course about there being different ways to reach a goal, I seem to have taken the scenic route. LOL

      Have a wonderful week.

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      MizBejabbers 4 weeks ago

      Bill, don't you love the different routes. Doesn't that constitute "voice"? Glad you made it on time.

      I would say that if in doubt as to whether one should get a release from a photo taken in a public place, which is not required by federal law, blur the person's face or head like the big boys on TV do. When I was taking my training, we didn't have all this local, state, and federal government control on copyrights and privacy. I'm not sure they are a good thing. I belong to an organization which has the policy that you must get a release from everyone in the photo before it can be used even in the organization's own publications. That's getting ticky (but cautious).

      Have a good week my friend. Stay warm.

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      Larry Rankin 4 weeks ago from Oklahoma

      I liked you little narrative about ways of getting. I hope I can arrive someday:-) Until then I'll just keep trudging along and telling myself the joy is in the journey.

      Always a pleasure to read the Mailbag my friend.

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      Ann Carr 4 weeks ago from SW England

      All Night Long is one of my all-time favourites, along with Dancing on the Ceiling! Loved the story at the beginning too.

      Good mailbag. 1st/3rd person is a difficult one and I'm more comfortable with 3rd but I think it can get more complicated, so.... I don't know!

      The photography thing: here in Britain it's illegal to take photos of someone on their own property without permission and illegal to enter a property to take photos without permission. It can also be seen as harassment. However, it's difficult to prove. I agree that it's a moral issue above all.

      We have a neighbour doing just that at the moment and we're ignoring him as he's a complete ********. Confrontation makes it worse. Not talking makes it much easier!

      Question: What is it within us that tells us we have written a good piece? I know when something's not quite right but I have a deeper feeling of something close to excitement when I feel I've produced a good'un. Why is that? Where does it come from? Do you experience that?

      Monday has been melodious and old-friend visiting mellow today. Hope yours is just as good, bill.

      Ann

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      Eric Dierker 4 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      You are the best buddy.

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      Linda Lum 4 weeks ago from Washington State, USA

      Oh dear, I use the semicolon a LOT. Wondering if my writing makes you roll your eyes. Perhaps I need a time out in the corner too.

      As for 2nd person, that would be when giving instructions, right?

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Aww, thanks Linda! I always appreciate you stopping by and commenting.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Yes there is, Kari, although it is rarely used. I'll talk about it next week, okay?

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      LMAO, Dennis, pain in the butt...got it and loved it.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Too funny, Linda! Sure, you can start a new chapter with the name of the person...different, unique, worth a try. As for Eric, he needs s timeout in the corner. LOL

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      Linda Crampton 4 weeks ago from British Columbia, Canada

      Your opening story is great, Bill. It makes your point very clearly. Anusha's comment about photo use is excellent, too.

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      Kari Poulsen 4 weeks ago from Ohio

      Another wonderful Mailbag! I, too, almost never use the semi-colon. I can't remember why, but I think I learned that in school. This may seem a stupid question, but is there a 2nd person style of writing. Just wondering why they go from 1st to 3rd, lol.

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      Dennis L. Page 4 weeks ago from New York/Pennsylvania border

      Oh, those pesky colons, semicolons, and colonoscopies can be a pain in the butt. Thank you for the refresher course. We all need our cages rattled every now and then.

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      Linda Lum 4 weeks ago from Washington State, USA

      Bill, thank you for including my question. I'm going to give 1st person a try and see how it works. If I introduce each chapter with the name of the person who is giving us their observations, can I achieve the best of both worlds?

      Eric is dreadful--his comment about semi-colonoscopies made me almost spurt my coffee.

      BTW, I think my bio might be in the 3rd person. I'd best correct that--I'm not quite ready for an obituary.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Shannon, I kind of enjoyed the Kansas mistake. LOL I swear, the auto correct on my phone hates me, and I hate it, so we're even.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Dream On, you have me laughing.Thank you for that. Our chickens, as well, love the attention.

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      shanmarie 4 weeks ago

      Stupid auto-correct. How does it change something after I verify it is correct? It's like it changes itself after I move on further in my sentence. Grrrrrr. If I ever figure out how to turn that thing off, I'll be one happy woman. What I tried to say had nothing to do with Kansas, of course! I hope you know I was saying thanks for the laugh. LOL

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      DREAM ON 4 weeks ago

      When it comes to using pictures of people it can get a little tricky and I don't need to be in a sticky situation. I have enough to deal with without adding to my plate. So I turn to pictures of animals and nature. I don't think the chickens next door mind being celebrities and the flowers and trees love the attention. Life is short and we all have to wring out the good from the worst of all days. It is a challenge but when we succeed what a pleasure it is. Thank you for sharing and caring. I heard someone say Monday fun day I am trying to follow that idea but someone it is going in the opposite direction. I think I need a new compass. Have a great day.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      I know, Sally. It's just that me and prudence, we never seem to see eye to eye. LOL Happy Monday my friend.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      I agree, Heidi, or you can be like me and just not give a damn. LOL Seriously, thank you.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Eric, the length was worth it because it was funny and made my morning. I hate writing those 3rd person bios....always sounds so contrived, which it is, and somehow always ends up sounding like an obituary.

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      Sally Gulbrandsen 4 weeks ago from Norfolk

      As someone who has taken a lot of photographs over the years, I must say that it does seem prudent to get a photo release or at least ask for permission before publishing an image of a person. Have a great week Billy.

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      Heidi Thorne 4 weeks ago from Chicago Area

      Happy Monday!

      Re: Public Photos. Great insight from Anusha! The laws regarding privacy and such are in a constant state of flux, largely due to social media and the availability of technology. Always check before you shoot for what applies in your area and for how you plan to use the pics!

      Have a great week ahead!

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Nell, that's what I love about the Mailbag. People share their thoughts and tools and we all learn. Thank you for that suggestion.

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      Eric Dierker 4 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Outstanding.

      I think on the picture issue we know the answer if we watch TV or movies. The first tier is not letting the gov. intrude on our privacy, citizens have a lessor standard. Now go to traffic/security/street videos or closed circuit. There simply is no legal restriction on recording images in/of public places. Florida does not restrict really. The child walks into a bank or takes a flight, they are recorded via camera.

      As the above writer notes. Intent is paramount. But not the intent to take the picture but the intent on how to use it. Much more on things like cropping.

      Bill I messed up, my question was really about colonoscopies and semi colonoscopies. LoL

      Hey now HP really likes us to have Bio's tailored for specific articles to go all niche sight like LetterPile. There I got to looking into 1st person and 3rd person. What the heck is that 3rd person deal all about when describing oneself? I also had that problem for a Bio for a charity I serve. What the heck? And I supposed to write "Eric is a...."

      Sorry for my length.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Shannon, that's not the first time I've made that particular mistake. Now I'm laughing. Thanks for the catch.

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      Nell Rose 4 weeks ago from England

      Hiya Bill, great advice as always. On the subject of using photos from Images, I am using loads at the moment for a book I am writing. Instead of scrolling down through all the wiki commons, pixabay etc, I just go to the Images, tools, then Usage rights, click on the 'Labeled for Reuse' and of I go! brings up all the goodies in one go! lol!

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      shanmarie 4 weeks ago

      Bill, you might want to read the headline capsule of your first question. Or maybe it was on purpose. It made me laugh either way, so that KS. Needed that laugh. Good morning to you.

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      Bill Holland 4 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Janine, we do seem to agree on a great deal. I blame it on the Beatles. :) Thanks so much,my friend. Have a great week doing your thing.

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      Janine Huldie 4 weeks ago from New York, New York

      Bill, I couldn't agree more that there is definitely more than one way to get to the same or similar results. SO love that above advice. But again, I am not surprised we agree on this and more. Seriously, thanks for sharing and just being you! Happy Monday now, my friend :)