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The Writer's Mailbag: Installment 177

Updated on November 20, 2017

Musings

I was thinking about history last night.

No, not the big events of history like the Civil War, or the Great Depression. I was thinking about the last sixty-nine years and the history I’ve been a part of . . . the history you’ve been a part of.

The thing is, history is made by every-day, run-of-the-mill people. When you look at a small village, and the growth of that village into a town, and then a city, you are chronicling the lives of the citizens who lived there. When I look at the history of Olympia, where I live, it begins with a settler named Sylvester, and the handful of families who followed him, and the lives they lived, and the decisions they made, and the way, over time, that they shaped this land and formed this city. There wasn’t one particular day in 1848 when history was made but rather a succession of days in 1848, 1849, 1900, and so on, when the history of this city was made for the history books.

I try to remember that when I write my articles, stories, and books. I am a part of the history. My next-door neighbor is a history-maker. Our actions have short-term and long-term effects on what this area will be like.

Just some musings to consider as you begin your work week.

Welcome to the Mail Room!
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HP Doing Better?

From Dream On: “I was wondering if HubPages is doing any better than before as a writing site. I thought since you were having a fireside chat I could at least bring some wood for the fire. Thank you for sticking around.”

Dream On, my friend, it’s good to hear from you once again.

Interesting question! I think the fact that HP is still around, and still making payouts, is huge news and news to celebrate. They must be doing something right for that to be true. Are they doing better? That one is a hard call. The online content writing world has changed. Google is proving to be a formidable foe for sites like HP, but to HP’s credit they are making changes to combat the Google fluctuations. Some of those changes anger the writers. Some are applauded, but I’m not sure I can say they are doing better or doing worse.

Payouts are not as good as they once were, when I first started out here, but I’m not sure I can blame HP for that. Rather, it is simply a sign of changing times in the online writing battles.

What Happened to 2nd Person?

From Kari: “Another wonderful Mailbag! I, too, almost never use the semi-colon. I can't remember why, but I think I learned that in school. This may seem a stupid question, but is there a 2nd person style of writing. Just wondering why they go from 1st to 3rd, lol.”

Hi, Kari, and no, that is not a stupid question and yes, there is a 2nd person point-of-view. The reason you even asked that question is because 2nd person is rarely used in literature.

2nd person uses pronouns you, your, and yours. It is most often seen in demonstrations, how-to articles, or even speeches. An example of 2nd person would be something like this: To cut down on drafts in the home, you should tape plastic over all of your windows.

Using this point-of-view would be next to impossible to do if you were writing a novel, obviously, so it is not odd at all that you asked that question.

"How to Build a Chicken Coop" would be an article written in 2nd Person
"How to Build a Chicken Coop" would be an article written in 2nd Person | Source

Is It Good or Not?

From Ann: “Question: What is it within us that tells us we have written a good piece? I know when something's not quite right but I have a deeper feeling of something close to excitement when I feel I've produced a good'un. Why is that? Where does it come from? Do you experience that?”

Here goes Ann again with another ethereal, soul-searching question! LOL

Ann, I don’t have a clue! That isn’t going to prevent me from tossing out my thoughts, of course, just so you are aware that this is all just conjecture on my part.

I think any writer with some serious mileage on them can recognize good writing as opposed to pig slop, even if they are judging themselves. That comes from experience, doesn’t it? Truthfully, it happens rarely with me. I am my worst critic, so I don’t feel great about my writing very often, but there are occasions, maybe once a month or once every two months, when I’ll finish a chapter, or just a paragraph, and I’ll sit back and think “damn, that was actually pretty good, Bill.” And yes, it is something close to excitement because it means, if only for a few minutes, that we are on the right path, that we do have a thimble of talent in us, and we can have more of those moments if we just keep writing.

It’s a writer’s high, for lack of a better description, and once experienced we are Jonesin’ for it again.

I’ve actually known some writers who aren’t, shall we say, terribly talented, and I’ve read comments from them about how good they feel about a particular piece and Ann, that piece they are talking about is terrible in my eyes . . . so either they deceive themselves, or they are basing it solely on their particular talent and maybe they have improved and I just don’t see it. So this one is a subjective question through and through, and perhaps the answer is different in each of us.

Or perhaps I don’t know what I’m talking about. J

Present and Past Tense

From Zulma: “The question about 1st and 3rd person got me thinking. Present or past tense. Are they mutually exclusive or can you mix them? For example, can you use present tense to write about what the character is doing now, but change to past tense to explain a past event in the characters life. I'm not sure I explained that well but I suppose we can discuss that in the next mailbag, perhaps.”

Zulma, it is an interesting question, and I think it’s something most writers aren’t even aware of, so nice catch!

I would say that 99% of all novels are written in the past tense. Maybe I’m a little high on that estimate . . . let’s say 98% instead for accuracy. J There’s a reason for that, obviously: a novel is nothing more than storytelling, the telling of a story about something that has already happened . . . thus it is past tense. That’s one of those writing truths that is obvious and yet most of us don’t even realize it. Storytellers deal with the past.

But the past and present tenses can be mixed, and it is done often. If you are telling a story, and you use a dream sequence, you can tell the dream in present tense, like it is happening at that moment. It would go something like the following:

“I fell asleep quickly that night, and the dream came to me almost immediately.

“I am walking through a field of poppies. The smell is a gentle caress and I smile. The ground is soft. I have no feeling of fear or apprehension. “Why are you here?” I spin around. Where did that voice come from? How can I be hearing a voice when there is no other person with me? Am I losing my mind?

“I awoke drenched in sweat, filled with anxiety, certain that death would soon arrive.”

Why don’t people write in the present tense more often? Think about it . . . if 99% of all storytelling done is in past tense, why rock the boat? Why be different just for the sake of being different? Past tense is the natural medium for a storyteller. You better have a damned good reason for bucking that established trend. Otherwise, you’ll just come off as eccentric.

Does that help, Zulma?

Telling a story, by nature, will almost always be in past tense
Telling a story, by nature, will almost always be in past tense | Source

Happy Thanksgiving to My Countrymen

Hard to believe that Thanksgiving is this week! Why is it hard to believe? We all say that, right, like it’s a big surprise that November arrived once again, like maybe we expect to just leapfrog from October to December one year???? Stupid saying and I apologize for it.

So if you celebrate Thanksgiving, I hope you have a wonderful time with friends and family.

Remember, while you are doing your thing, you are making history. I don’t know about you but I happen to think that’s pretty cool.

2017 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”

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      Bill Holland 3 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Lawrence, that is remarkable about the Confederate gun. What an incredible find that would be. Thanks for telling us that...a 4" gun? I have to look that up.

      And thanks for the question...stay tuned.

      Happy New Year my friend.

      bill

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      Lawrence Hebb 3 weeks ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Bill

      A strange thing happened the other night.

      I'd just finished reading your hub from the US civil war series and turned in the TV.

      The Antiques roadshow was on (British version) and a young man had brought a curious piece in.

      The expert couldn't believe what he was looking at, an 1865 4inch gun forged in Britain for the confederate army!! And in perfect condition (it even had a crest of the confederate flag on the breach)

      My point, yep we are those who 'document' history, we are the storytellers!

      I can relate to Ann's question, but there's also been times I've put a piece out for people to 'comment' on (so I could hopefully improve it) and people have loved it!

      At times it's been a struggle whether I try and tweak the piece!

      I guess the answer might be, if the writer isn't happy with it, then obviously it's not ready!

      What do you do, when you know you've done a good job, but feel it could be better, yet aren't totally sure what needs to change?

      Happy new year

      Lawrence

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      Bill Holland 7 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Anusha, that was a lovely and informative comment. Thank you very much. I love to travel through the mind of an accomplished writer, so thank you for the journey through yours.

      Blessings always

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      Anusha Jain 7 weeks ago from Delhi, India

      Another great Writer's Mailbag.

      The world of online Writing has changed and causes are as interesting as they are obvious. The sheer amount of content requires all the bars to be raised. Search engines are also struggling to differentiate between okay, good, bad and what the reader actually wants! For example, there are many ways people express themselves in my mother tongue online. They will use our script, or roman script, and might many English words and derivations. I was surprised when I saw Google's webmaster video and their tips.

      And then this 2nd person... How about open letters? Our ex-primeminister wrote from prison (he was a freedom fighter) to his daughter. There are numerous such examples.

      And the discussion related to tenses reminded me of a quirky habits many people (including me) have. When we describe a story, say, a film's story to a frient, we tend to use the simple present tense. :)

      Belated happy thanksgiving to you, and wish you many flights with your creativity.

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      Larry Rankin 7 weeks ago from Oklahoma

      Always great info!

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      Bill Holland 7 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Well, Jo, I'm happy you decided to give it another try. I appreciate you!

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      Jo Miller 8 weeks ago from Tennessee

      I think I like HubPages better now than when I first started here. It didn't appeal to me greatly then so I was never very active. I like most of the changes that have been made and since I never made much money the drop off of earnings never affected me greatly. I think it looks more professional now, so I decided to return and give it another try.

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Our 2nd dinner today...25 pounder with the other half of the family. At least it's not here so I don't have to clean up the kitchen. LOL You are very welcome, Zulma! Good luck!

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Nell, if I were to give advice, which I normally don't unless asked, I would say sit on it for a few days and let it simmer. We will always question ourselves. It's our nature.

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 8 weeks ago from United Kingdom

      Twelve pounds! Impressive. Ours was about half that so I don't have to rack my brain trying to come up with recipes to use the leftovers.

      Thanks for the tip. I'd much rather rewrite six chapters now than 20+ chapters later. :D

      Have a great weekend.

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      Nell Rose 8 weeks ago from England

      Funny about Ann's question! as I am going through the pains of doubt about my kids book! lol! I think the layout is all wrong, but not sure what to do! as for Hubpages itself, I still love it here and love getting paid too! lol! great advice as always Bill!

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Bill, I give HP credit, they are fighting like mad to make all of this work. So far so good; they have outlasted all other sites.

      Happy Thanksgiving my friend!

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you very much, Rachelle! You are appreciated on this Thanksgiving Day!

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Happy Thanksgiving Zulma! It can be done, of course, changing the tense, and might be best to avoid confusion.

      Ours is twelve pounds. Lots of leftovers. Yippee!

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      Bill De Giulio 8 weeks ago from Massachusetts

      Good morning Bill and a happy Thanksgiving to you. Another informative mailbag. Regarding the question about HP doing better I have noticed that the CPM seems to have improved for me over the last few weeks and this has resulted in an increase in earnings. Don’t know if this will be permanent, I suspect not, but it’s good to see. Enjoy your Turkey day.

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      Rachelle Williams 8 weeks ago from Tempe, AZ

      Bill, thanks for sharing your wisdom, it is much appreciated!

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 8 weeks ago from United Kingdom

      Thanks for taking the time, Bill. I ask because I'm working on something at the moment and it occurred to me that the story actually begins circa 1995. But I've been writing it in the present tense. I think it might be misleading because the reader may think the story is happening right now. I'm wondering if I should be using past tense instead. It would mean rewriting the first six chapters I've already completed, but better now rather than later.

      Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. I've got to go a weigh the turkey my husband bought so I know when to put it in the oven tomorrow.

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Nice reflection, Mary! Thanks for sharing that, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kari! Good question. I think we clarified it for most who stopped by.

      Happy Thanksgiving!

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      I did notice the semicolon, MizB, and I chuckled. I know what you are talking about with Thanksgiving. For me, I think getting older takes some of the fun out of the holiday, and family members spread across the map.

      Happy Thanksgiving my dear friend!

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Don't you dare, Ann! I love your questions and would be disappointed if you grounded them.

      Thank you and peace and blessings to you.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Happy Thanksgiving, Peggy! Great point about the ongoing history of a town, even if the town is abandoned. True words!

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      Bill Holland 8 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Great perspective, Tim! Thanks for sharing that and Happy Thanksgiving to you!

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      Mary Norton 8 weeks ago from Ontario, Canada

      We are face to face where we are now with the 3rd century ruins and were so impressed by these but you made me think about the wonders we have now and I sure enjoy being in this century. We do appreciate history but we have to face the present even here in HP. Thanks again for all the other helpful discussion.

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      Kari Poulsen 8 weeks ago from Ohio

      Thanks for answering my question, Bill. I now know why I didn't realize what it was, lol. I quite enjoyed the discussion about past and present tense. :)

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      MizBejabbers 8 weeks ago

      I'm glad you answered the question about 2nd person because they didn't teach us that in journalism school. Bill, I know all about mediocre writers being proud of their mediocre work; it comes from being a legal editor. (Notice the use of the semicolon in place of a conjunction?)

      Hope you and yours have a very good Thanksgiving. It used to be my 2nd favorite holiday, but now that we are down to only three family members to get together this year, it ain't so great for us anymore. Have a happy, my friend.

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      Ann Carr 2 months ago from SW England

      Thanks bill, for answering my question. Just as I thought, you summed up what I was talking about! I'll try to keep my questions on the ground from now on!

      Happy thanksgiving to all of you across the pond!

      Ann

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      Peggy Woods 2 months ago from Houston, Texas

      Happy Thanksgiving Bill. I really liked how you started out this particular mailbag. History is definitely made up with with small moments in time weaved together and seen better with some distant perspective. The example you gave of how towns are settled and grown is so apt. It takes the actions of many people over time to accomplish that. For that matter, it never ends unless the town is abandoned. Even then there is a story to be told.

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      Tim Mitchell 2 months ago from Escondido, CA

      Happy Thanksgiving Bill and all!!! As always I enjoy reading the mail bag with great information. I always learn. I pondered history with some of the questions realizing the history of HP and what part I played with it yesterday and with making it today. And, what part HP played with my personal history. Finally, the history of many Hubbers I have followed over the years. History is significant and worth contemplating. Thanks for that inspiration.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Happy Thanksgiving, Pop! I appreciate you!

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Bill, and a very Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Chitrangada Sharan, that is nice to hear, that the Mailbags have become a staple on Mondays. I like that, a part of my legacy. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you very much, Linda, and may the spirit of Thanksgiving be your companion always.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Michael my friend, peace and happiness to you this Thanksgiving and beyond.

      Thank you for your friendship!

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Clive, it is something I rarely use. LOL Happy Thanksgiving my friend.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Dora, I hope you have a wonderful holiday with your family. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving to you.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Heidi, thank you for your kind words. Happy Thanksgiving to you, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Flourish, I think I've purchased some of the same books that you reference to. :) Yes, a virtual party for sure. You bring cookies, please!

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Brian, that story would be fascinating to read. I hope you do post it one of these days. Thank you in advance.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      It really is my pleasure, Emese! Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      At my age, Manatita, the brain can be foggy quite often. :)

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      breakfastpop 2 months ago

      Have a wonderful Thanksgiving, billy. I enjoyed this edition of the Mailbag. Your guidance and advice is appreciated.

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      William Kovacic 2 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

      Yes, it's pretty cool, Bill, and I'm glad to be a part of it. Good questions and good answers, my friend. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

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      Chitrangada Sharan 2 months ago from New Delhi, India

      Happy Thanksgiving to you billybuc and to everyone at HP!

      These mailbags have become a part of our lives and they inspire too. Monday will not be the same without them. Keep going and keep inspiring.

      It’s a good News, if HubPages is doing better. Good wishes to all.

      Thanks for sharing!

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      Linda Crampton 2 months ago from British Columbia, Canada

      You've shared some interesting ideas, as always. I hope you have a great Thanksgiving, Bill.

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      Michael-Milec 2 months ago

      Great installment as always, consistently.

      Instant warning !

      “History is made by every-day…we are a part of the history.” Every word, the traces of our love and labor remain, someone is writing / recording everything.

      Blessed Thanksgiving my friend to you and yours.

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      Clive Williams 2 months ago from Jamaica

      very interesting questions. Good replies. Nice Mailbag.....What is the semicolon by the way....???

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      Dora Weithers 2 months ago from The Caribbean

      Bill, Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Grateful that I will spend the day with my children and grandchildren in the USA. Also grateful for your contribution to my life as a writer--even in these mailbags. There's plenty for which to give thanks.

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      Heidi Thorne 2 months ago from Chicago Area

      Indeed we often forget that we are making history every day. Good reminder!

      Re: HP Doing Better? I've noticed a bit of a bump in revenues of late. That may be attributable to HP's move to the network sites model which could be more favored by the Google gods because of better focus and editing. As well, I thought I read on their blog that they are also pulling in ad revenues from other advertising channels which is all good news for all of us.

      Re: Good? I'll let the market decide.

      On this holiday, I want to thank you for gathering together some of the most engaged and engaging writers in this weekly Mailbag forum. Your contribution is much appreciated. Happy Thanksgiving!

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      FlourishAnyway 2 months ago from USA

      I chuckled at your absolute honesty about how proud some writers are regarding some of their work that is not objectively good. We all need to be proud, I guess, but that doesn't mean it will sell. On the other hand, there are some terribly written best sellers. I've made the mistake of buying a few! Happy Thanksgiving!

      P.S. Will there be a party when you reach the 200 milestone?

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      Brian Leekley 2 months ago from Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA

      In a dramatic fictional feature film, the story is shown with photographs shown at so many shots per second, which gives the illusion of movement, of action. The viewer / listener, by agreeing to pretend the illusion is real within the film's fictional world, experiences the characters as doing things and saying things in the present tense. Therefore screenplays are written in the present tense. As you say, a storyteller using spoken or written narrative tells what happened in the past, so uses past tense. The listener / reader imagines what it would have been like to be there.

      In college, one of my stories published in the literary magazine was second person present tense. Maybe I'll post it sometime.

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      EmeseRéka 2 months ago from The Desert

      This was another great mailbag. Thanks for keeping it up so regularly.

      Happy Thanksgiving, Bill!

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      manatita44 2 months ago from london

      Ha ha.

      I was just giving my two pennies worth to Ann's question. I should have said. Some salient points, perhaps, but I probably waffled a little. At Airports the brain can be foggy. Ha ha.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      That seems to be the standard of success with these sites at this point in time...they still exist! That's more than most of these sites can say so good job, HP!!!

      Happy Thanksgiving, Linda, and thank you for your friendship.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks so much, Cyndi! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

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      Linda Lum 2 months ago from Washington State, USA

      Much to ponder here today sir. Yes, I do think that HP is doing better. At least they still exist. Niume didn't make it a year. I'll never become a millionaire here, but that was never the goal anyhow.

      I hope you and your family have a wonderful time together this holiday season.

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      Cynthia B Turner 2 months ago from Georgia

      Good questions and good answers, as usual. Take care Happy Thanksgiving! Cyndi

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so very much, Venkatachari M.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Oddly, Melissa, I'm looking forward to the pumpkin pie more than the turkey. :) Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

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      Melissa Propp 2 months ago from Minnesota

      Happy Monday Bill! And Happy Turkey Day! Hope you have lots to be thankful for and enjoy the day with some nice Turkey and Pie!

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      Venkatachari M 2 months ago from Hyderabad, India

      Very nice mailbag starting with your reflections on history and with those interesting questions. Thanks for your good replies of much help.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanksgiving is cool, Eric, and I will give thanks for your friendship. Thank you sir!

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      All valid points, Mary, and thank you for sharing them. Happy Thanksgiving to you in Brazil, and thank you.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Beautiful thoughts, Manatita! Food for thought which I will ruminate upon the rest of the day. Peace be with you, my friend.

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      Eric Dierker 2 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Really cool that some of the questions related to your opening theme. It is a time warp kind of thing. I was reading Chris' current short story of a time in the future yet it as to be written as though it already happened.

      Thanksgiving is cool as we give thanks for the past, the present and the future.

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      Mary Wickison 2 months ago from Brazil

      Hi Bill,

      I was glad Kari asked about 2nd person speech. I use it frequently but never thought to put a name to it.

      Regarding HP, I do think the strategies Hubpages is implementing are good ones. It reminds me of the booklet, "Who Moved My Cheese". Although some of the strategies may not be popular with the writers, HP has to keep on top of or ahead of the game. Nothing in life is static and promoting content that Google approves of is a difficult task.

      Interesting questions and answers as always, have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

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      manatita44 2 months ago from london

      Nice one Bill and happy thanksgiving.

      All things come from us.

      We are influenced by parents,environment, good writers, media, society.. .

      Mostly the mind or Heart is dominant. Again, it can be an emotional, restless or intuitive and illumined mind. This will in turn affect what we write.

      It is intuition that tells me my sister is ill in Australia, and the same that tells me that this is a brilliant piece.

      When I keel over, what is the world to me?So too, good writing lives within and manifests at the appropriate moment.

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Weird about that number, Rasma. Mine went up too and I have no clue why. As for announcing your ebook, that I do have a clue about, and the answer is seven days away. Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

      That is sweet of you, Kristen. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well, and thank you!

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      Kristen Howe 2 months ago from Northeast Ohio

      Happy Thanksgiving Bill. Great Mailbag as always. I'm thankful for HP and the niche sites and meeting great fellow hubber friends like you.

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 2 months ago from Riga, Latvia

      Looks like I'm the first one at the mailbag party. Just noticed something incredible and surprising my HP score is 86. I hovered in the 60s. I know you once said the scores don't really matter but something is happening and I guess it's good at this time since I am working on getting my e-book out. Speaking of that I have many hard hours of work ahead of me. Once I get it all done what is the best way to make my announcement. On all social sites, on my poetry blog and can I also do it on HP?