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The Writer's Mailbag: Installment 208

Updated on June 25, 2018

The Longest Day

I’m always caught by surprise when the longest day of daylight comes and goes in June. It seems like we finally emerge from the darkness of winter, and some talking head on television is telling us, in June, that the days are now getting shorter. Sigh! It’s just not good for the psyche, you know?

Random musings!

On the bright side of that conversation, it means I should have two or three extra minutes of quality writing from now until December, so there you go!

And here we go! Let’s see what my friends have asked this week, shall we?

Welcome to the Mail Room!
Welcome to the Mail Room! | Source

Hp Confusion

From Ann: “Question: Have you ever had messages from HP that a hub can't be featured because of 'spammy content'? If so, have you any idea what it means? There is nothing which makes sense on their 'Learning Centre' (sorry, Center!) or elsewhere. It's the second time, both recently, that this has happened to me and it makes me think I'm losing my touch. I might just stop writing for HP. So the second part of my question is 'Is it better to concentrate on writing just for me/self-publishing?'”

Yes, Ann, I have gotten those notifications from HP in the past. I’m sure I’ll get them in the future. For me it’s like water on a duck’s back. It just flows off unimpeded and I go about my day, but that’s just me. I do understand your angst over this. HP has done a number of things over the years which rankle me.

You are not losing your touch, and you better not stop writing for HP. Too many of the “old-timers” I have known for years have gone elsewhere, and I don’t like it one bit.

I can’t answer your last question. That’s your call completely. I can only tell you I hope you stay here and I hope you find joy in what you do.

As for spammy content, this is what HP says about it:

Too many links….promotion of a product….or spammy in the text. This is what HP considers text spam:

Text

Text elements of an article can be considered spammy even if there are no links or products. Here are some examples of spammy text:

  • Repetitive keywords (especially when bolded or italicized)
  • Plain text URLs that promote a business
  • Otherwise excessive promotion of a business or product

For more information on this, do a Google search of “spammy content HubPages” and an entire page will open up devoted to this topic.

It’s all news to me. I don’t pay any attention to HP silliness like this.

I hope that helps you, Ann!

HP "spammy content" messages
HP "spammy content" messages | Source

Disclosing Too Much?

From Eric: “You have a dog and a wife and by accounts a son. Who are you, given your talents,to not write about them more? Weird way to say it for fun. Where is that line Bill. My stories are just scary real do I disclose too much?”

Oh man, Eric, I’ve got a couple nieces in North Dakota who have been mad at me for several years now because I got a bit “real” in disclosing some family matters.

Such is life!

I now write about them without using their names, and everyone seems to be happier for it. LOL Shhh, don’t tell them I’m doing that.

I rarely write about my wife Bev. She gets embarrassed when I do, so I save her that. My son? I’ve written about him in the past. I’m not sure he really cared one way or another. I’m a storyteller, Eric, and I can tell the stories using real names or fictitious names; the story, to me, is the key, but that’s just me and my style.

Great question! Keep doing what you are doing.

CATHARSIS

From Rodric: “I started an article and plan to be very general with information. It is about how coping with an issue might give someone else insight if he or she deals with it in the future. What do you thinking of sharing personal stories as a way to catharsis on Hubpages instead of a journal?”

Oh man, Rodric, I made my bones on HP in the early years doing exactly that. I was an open book writing about me, my weaknesses, my “humanity,” if you will. I found it very helpful to do so, and you know what? I heard from quite a few people who told me that my words helped them greatly, so that was a huge bonus. If, by exposing myself, I can help others, I think that’s huge plus, don’t you?

Let it all hang out, my friend. It’s good for what ails you. J

Historical Fiction

From Kay: “What is more important when writing historical fiction, the history or the story?”

And there we have another first! I’m always amazed when something has a new question after four years of the Mailbag.

Just my opinion…

Historical fiction is first, and foremost, fiction. It is a story . . . and that should always be remembered. The history is just the backdrop for the story. Historical fiction writers are storytellers first and historians second.

I’ve read some historical fiction where the writer forgot that important point. The book was cumbersome, the story slowed by too many facts and figures, and the whole point of writing the story was lost. That can never happen…the story is king! Read the good historical fiction writers, the Micheners and the Cattons, and you will understand what I’m talking about. Having said that, now that I think about it, even James Michener, as good as he was, got bogged down in too many details now and again, so we all can fall prey to the historical bugaboo if we are not careful.

Shorter days mean more writing for this writer
Shorter days mean more writing for this writer | Source

ANOTHER SHORT ONE

Short, like the days, getting shorter by one, two, three minutes per day, and on we go.

Thanks to al who asked questions. Good Lord willin’ and the creek don’t rise, you’ll see me next week with another installment of The Mailbag!

2018 William D. Holland (aka billybuc)

"Helping writers to spread their wings and fly."

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    • billybuc profile imageAUTHOR

      Bill Holland 

      8 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks for your thoughts, Lawrence. I'm like you, I just don't waste much effort or thought with what HP is doing with my hubs. It's all good for me.

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      Lawrence Hebb 

      8 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Bill

      I think we've all had the 'spammy elements' thing on our Hubs at some point, I've still got two Hubs that HP says have them on that I wrote recently, one about Einstein and Autism and one about Churchill, I was annoyed when the messages came, but figured that even when they're featured my articles don't get a lot of visits, so I left them.

      Some of my 'unfeatured' articles get more visits than the featured ones that they use on the network sites (I'm still trying to work that out!) so I just don't worry about it anymore, I write what feels right for me, and with the aim of finishing the next novel, if people enjoy the series on the way then that is even better.

      Interesting what you say about Historical fiction, I'd agree, though I still enjoy Michener's books.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Good for you, Rajan! Life is too short to spend it trying to appease HP.

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      Rajan Singh Jolly 

      10 months ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar,INDIA.

      I have had the spammy elements message on one of my articles published some months back and repeated efforts to get it featured have proved futile. I have left it at that and don't worry about it anymore.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      True words, Nithya! Thank you!

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      Nithya Venkat 

      10 months ago from Dubai

      Sharing personal experiences is great so long as people involved are okay with it. Changing names is the best thing to do so that no one gets hurt.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Rodric. I guess I did hear a little something about this, but didn't pay any attention to it...it's time that I did.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I hadn't heard that, Mary! Who did that? Now I'll have to research that...back atcha on Monday.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      That's a tough spot to be in, Eric, a spot I find myself working for customers. Compartmentalize as much as possible and hope for the best, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Such a smooth, rich voice. :)

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      Rodric Anthony 

      10 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      Blond Logic, this is a good question. I read an article about it in the New York Times how the Laura Ingalls Wilder Award has been changed to Children’s Literature Legacy Award. I don't know how to feel about that! Then you say that the books are being removed too! Bill, I am so waiting to see what your take is on that. I might have to put my two cents in on that myself.

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      Mary Wickison 

      10 months ago from Brazil

      I have a question for your next mailbag, what are your thoughts on the powers that be removing books by Laura Ingalls Wilder?

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      Eric Dierker 

      10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Bill I am having just a bit of a problem between creative and technical. Yes my niche on briefs and court motions and such is to bring in "The human" aspect. Lawyers have trouble with that. But still it is very technical obviously.

      And then back to my "Sermons".

      Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar maybe.

      I know you do both. A little advice here.

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      Verlie Burroughs 

      10 months ago from Canada

      Hi Bill, yes it was. 'Lazy hazy crazy days of summer'. My parents had that album and played it over and over. I know every song.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Verlie! The first day of Autumn...lol....yes, I agree with that. As for the hazy, crazy days of summer, that was in a song...what song was that????Nat King Cole, right???

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Bill! Even with that explanation I am confused, but with HP that is no surprise.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Rodric, thank you for your very kind words. The Corn will have to wait until summer ends. Far too little time. As for writing personal, I have never been flagged for that, and personal is what I used to write all the time. Just strange what they choose to flag.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Fellow Hubber, whoever you are. I love you too...thoughts coming next Monday!

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Alyssa! I would love to read more personal articles from you. It would help me to know you as a person more rather than someone with just beautiful hair. :)

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I am happy to hear that, Dora! Our community would suffer if you ever left it.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Pop, I love your last sentence...true words my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Venkatachari M! I understand your frustration over HP....too much work for too little reward in my opinion!

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Oh my, Peg, I never knew that about the Creek...really? The Indians? LOL Oh what we learn if we pay attention! Thanks for that.

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      Bill Holland 

      10 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Manatita...always a pleasure, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      And one moment because two, Ann, and then three, and I celebrate with every tick of the clock.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Exactly, Shannon, about historical fiction. If that word fiction is in there, then the story must be the focal point of the book...period!

      I don't blame you for wanting shorter days. You made a compelling argument for much-less daylight. lol

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Bill! I love that you keep doing what you are doing, despite HP's habit of tinkering. Keep telling your story, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Sis, I would expect no less, from you, than this comment. You had me laughing, as you always do. I'm so damned grateful you hung in there and didn't leave. HP doesn't know it, but they need people like you in this community.

      Hugs always

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Mr. Happy, as always, thank you for the detailed comment. I learn about you through your words, so thank you for the window you provided. I love that you "feel" writing so deeply. The writers I most relate to are the ones who have the ability to open up and be real with their words.

      Blessings to you...have a great Pow-wow!

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      Verlie Burroughs 

      11 months ago from Canada

      Hi Bill, I feel the same about the days getting shorter now, always have. For me June 21 is the first day of autumn! I know that's not the general view, but I'm prepping up (down) for the shorter days, and longer nights. Still enjoying the hazy crazy days of summer though, as the gardens bloom and blossom. Enjoying the heat, and watching the birds raise their families. It is an exciting time of year! Thanks for your ever great mail bag, great questions (and answers) this week, always helpful for us writers.

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      Bill De Giulio 

      11 months ago from Massachusetts

      Hi Bill. Interesting week for the Mailbag. I think I have received a few of those spam messages and to be honest I wasn’t exactly sure what I did wrong or how to fix it. Your explanation of what HP considers spam is helpful. Have a great week.

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      Rodric Anthony 

      11 months ago from Peoria, Arizona

      This ended too soon. Just when I was getting into it good, the 'ANOTHER SHORT ONE' came up!

      I suppose I was thirsty with all that is going on with life. I really appreciate your thoughts. I did not want to embarrass anyone. I like what you wrote about your nieces and son. If I want to write about a family member, I can change the name. Unfortunately, anyone who knows the story will know whom the story is about.

      The last time I wrote something personal, HP suggested that it was more appropriate for a blog and unfeatured it. Luckily that has only happened one time. This week is the first week I have been able to get back to writing. I look forward to next week's post.

      Also, I am waiting for that sequel to When the Corn Died. No pressure. I am going to re-read it. I really love that series. It is so romantic and wholesome to me.

      Ann, thanks for staying. It would be a loss to HP if you went.

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      Fellow Hubber 

      11 months ago

      Bill, What are your thoughts on the recent announcement about Hubbers being able to apply to become Mavens and run a vertical site? To me, it seems like a lot of daily work for uncertain payout and taking you further from the Hub community. They're about as clear as mud in their blog explanation.

      P.S. I love you. Keep up the dynamite Hubbing, buddy.

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      Alyssa 

      11 months ago from Ohio

      Wonderful mailbag this week! The "spammy" stuff is lost on me as well. I shy away from putting any links in my articles now because the editors seem to delete them anyway.. or they'll delete two and leave one. I don't always understand their logic, so I just avoid it. I love the idea of Cathartic writing and I think there is a real spot for it. I'm sure there are plenty of people (myself included) who could benefit from more of this type. As for historical fiction, I find myself really gravitating toward that genre when I'm looking for a good book. I haven't noticed anyone talking about the days getting shorter.. I'm enjoying more time in the sunshine (when the rain decides to stop that is.) Have a wonderful week, Bill!

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      Dora Weithers 

      11 months ago from The Caribbean

      Thanks again for some very relevant answers. My HP confusion is more now than it has ever been, but not enough to stop me. I keep learning and your mailbag helps.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      MIzB, thanks for sharing that about historical fiction...makes as much sense as anything I could come up with. :)

      A beautiful seventy degrees here. Perfect for a trip to the city dump, don't you think? :)

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Good to know, Elf...thanks for sharing those tips with us. I didn't know about using "I" too much. Thanks for that.

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      breakfastpop 

      11 months ago

      I have been writing on this site for nine years. Just recently I received that notification about spam. I have no idea what they are talking about, and I don't care. Don't let HP scare you off. We are a community of writers, and "they" are just annoying.

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      Mary Wickison 

      11 months ago from Brazil

      I too can relate to Ann's question. Sometimes, I can understand why I received the notice. However, if I feel I am justified in adding a link, then I will email them and explain. If I genuinely feel I am helping the customer solve a problem, I stand my ground. In my opinion, there will be common ground found.

      I have thought about writing more about personal trauma issues, however, have drawn back. I would be more inclined to put them on my other account here on Hubpages to keep a level of anonymity.

      I hope you're having a great week up there.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Linda, me too....a bit weird, but I totally agree.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      It finally showed up, Melissa! Must be a time warp!

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...Mike, you had me laughing about Michener! There are times I agree with you about him. Hopefully people don't say the same about me.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Melissa! The spam thing has only happened to me twice. I just ignored it. I have better things to do.

      Have a great week, my friend.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks Flourish! I just go directly to Kristy for an explanation. She's pretty good about responding.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I guess so, Mary! Anyway, I'm just here because of people like you,so thank you!

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I always enjoy your input and insights,Heidi! I'll be by your site shortly to see what you have to say.

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      Peg Cole 

      11 months ago from Northeast of Dallas, Texas

      Great information, as always, about catharsis, history, getting real, and that last bit, "Good Lord willing and the Creek don't rise." I used to want to correct my dad for the grammar in that saying which he used often. Then, recently, I looked up the origin and it may be that the Creek were Indians! More stuff I never knew.

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      Venkatachari M 

      11 months ago from Hyderabad, India

      It is a good question from Kay about historical fiction. The mailbag produces many creative and insightful discussions here.

      Ann's dilemma is a dilemma for most of the writers here, I hope. I also get frustrated by those unfeatured hubs. My article on Cigarette Smoking is edited scores of times but not got featured during this 6 month period. I left it like that now. And, I am afraid of improving (editing) my other articles now. It happened with 3 articles till now for me out of which I could get two articles featured again after lots of edits.

      Eric's question makes me smile. But, I feel that it is better to share one's life's issues and experiences so that others can become aware of those challenging issues in life.

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      manatita44 

      11 months ago from london

      The creek might rise, Bro. Anything is possible these days. Lol.

      Anyway another good 'un'. I like the fact that my favourite pic has returned in response to Ann's question.

      Yes, I did learn a lot about you quite early and your recent work about your ancestry plus, has been a masterpiece. Have a great day, Bro.

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      Ann Carr 

      11 months ago from SW England

      Thanks to Mike and Paula for their supportive (and hilarious) comments re my question. I'm staying for the moment!

      Ann

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      Linda Crampton 

      11 months ago from British Columbia, Canada

      I always find the day after the summer solstice a bit depressing, too. I like the light in the evenings. It's good to read another edition of the Mailbag, Bill.

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      Shannon Henry 

      11 months ago from Texas

      Okay, Bill, so I've had this hub up most of the day intending to comment. Geesh! Did I ever tell you I'm a terrible procrastinator and late to just about everything? Even when I have intentions to leave early. No surprise I'm late to this party, too!

      I'm so ready for the shorter days! Why? Because the kiddos will go to bed sooner instead of bickering for an hour before falling asleep. Ah....the joys of sharing a bedroom with a sibling. I remember it well. But when they go to bed early enough, it usually means I have more time to write.

      Plus. . .just between you and me. . .shorter days mean the temps will cool down soon, right? Oh, who am I kidding - we were approaching triple digits in April! It's only getting started 'round here.

      Hmm...the mailbag, almost forgot. Just kidding. What stands out to me for this one is the historical fiction question because it is one of my most favorite genres to read. I do agree with your opinion. Although I enjoy reading the history behind a story, while reading the story itself, I want just enough details to appreciate the history without losing the flow of the story.

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      William Leverne Smith 

      11 months ago from Hollister, MO

      HP clips a link module off every one of my posts, but I just keep posting. It is a link to my home blog. But, I have also embedded the link, writing out 'at' in my Note from Author... they're happy, I'm happy... silly stuff, as you say. They want 3 videos, I post 3 videos - my 3 Video Book Trailers. Sometimes they clip them, sometimes they don't... always curious to see which they do. I'll just keep telling my stories, family saga, historical fiction, for myself and readers like you. Thank you for being there, and sharing... love the Mailbag especially! ;-)

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      Melissa Propp 

      11 months ago from Minnesota

      Happy Monday Bill! I already posted a comment but for some reason, it doesn't seem to be appearing--sorry if I'm double-posting!

      Interesting questions and answers in this week's mailbag, especially the "spam" issue.

      Hope you have a great and productive week!

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      Paula 

      11 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Bro......"HP has done a number of things over the years which rankle me." Hmmmm..."rankle" would that word be what we here in New York use as PI$$ ME OFF??! Oops....and caps mean I'm yelling, right?

      BTW....I would love to come visit you but~~ between my annoying volume and my potty mouth, I'll have to stay on the Urban Farm doing chores OR you & Bev may want to begin saving bail money for your sweet, demure Sis. HP's habit of "rankling" me....Sore subject!

      Ann honey, if a miserable old bag like me can hang in here, it should be a day at the beach for you! I now I G N O R E them. I can't even tell you what they have done to me in the past 7 years! It started within my 1st 3 months of joining. I went back & forth with them so many times, I am certain there's a poster size picture of me in the Office with a black line through the middle of it. I can only hope I have annoyed them as much as they have aggravated & frustrated me! I've always been told I'm quite good at that! Hang in here, girlfriend!

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      mckbirdbks 

      11 months ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

      Hello Bill - Ann should stay. I solved Eric's issue by writing 50yrs in the past and 50yrs in the future. That resolves the question of now. I wish Rodric luck. And your answer to Kay is 100% correct. There is story, and there is setting. You are very kind to Michener.

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      Mr. Happy 

      11 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      Why does that poo look purple? Haha!!

      I have never gotten a "spammy content" comment. I do not promote products though, nor do I use many links either. Good to know about it, in case I do come across it.

      About "Disclosing too much", I think my father did not really like that article of mine talking about why I lobby for the First Nations. I went into some detail about growing up, not having enough food and so on and I think my father felt either guilty, or ashamed, or who knows. He just wasn't comfortable talking about it. Yet, that's what I write about mostly: issues and myself. I can;t possibly write about You. I don't know You. So, I write about the person I know best: Me! lol And I am comfortable writing about uncomfortable things but not everyone is.

      Ohh ya, your next topic is basically what I just wrote above: when one writes about personal experiences, others can learn from it. That's how I leanred, from reading other people's thoughts and so I give back when I can. : )

      Historical fiction - I don;t know what to say about this. Part of me says: Nooooo!! You're meddling with the truth and soon enough we will not know what is history and what is fiction. On the other hand though, certain themes can be approached more easier through fiction than otherwise. I'll just abstain here and say: to each their own. I can;t write fiction. For me words have to be true when I write them. I do read fantasy though. Dragons, wizards, etc are pretty cool! : )

      Alrighty, thank You! I always come to learn things here and I do! Have a marvellous week! I'm off to a Pow-wow this week(end).

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      Melissa Propp 

      11 months ago from Minnesota

      Happy Monday Bill! I didn't realize till you pointed it out...that the days would now be getting shorter. Way too soon!

      Some very interesting questions, especially in regards to what HP considers "spam". Some articles are clearly written with the intent to sell products, but I wonder how many people might get caught innocently when they run software programs looking for repeated words or bold lettering...

      Hope you have a great and productive week! Use those extra minutes!

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      Doris James MizBejabbers 

      11 months ago from Beautiful South

      Really good questions this week, Bill. I know some writers spill their guts, but I just can't do it. I guess the closest I've come is my heartbreaking Mother's Day hub I wrote a couple of years ago that I actually tried to make funny. But that's just me.

      I recently ran across an article on the difference between historical fiction and fiction written from a historical perspective. I wish I knew where I saw it, but I believe it said if you tinkered with history in the story, you could not classify it as historical fiction but it would classify as the latter. Sounds like a good subject for a hub to me.

      Hotter'n heck here, in the high 90s in between scattered thunderstorms, that is. Enjoy your Pacific atmosphere, my friend.

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      FlourishAnyway 

      11 months ago from USA

      We can’t let Ann pack up and leave. Someone take her suitcases so she has to stay.

      I find that if you can’t figure out what they’re talking about and you’ve reviewed the Learning Center etc. email th m back for a specific explanation.

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      RedElf 

      11 months ago from Canada

      Happy Monday, Bill

      I did get a few tips from an HP editor

      They prefer links to be done in-line rather than in a separate links block like we used to do

      They also prefer you avoid the use of "I" in anything except personal memoirs or creative writing (though you'll see some of the featured writers use "I" A LOT) (LOL).

      I, too, removed all my Amazon capsules and that seemed to appease the Google gods somewhat, and, honestly I never made very much with them anyway. Good luck to you.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kristen! I like your style too.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Good for you, Shaloo! No one ever said that HP editors know everything about writing...trust in your own abilities.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Eric, I could bunt with the best of them, but hitting a heater was beyond my capabilities. :)

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      LOL...it's okay, Linda. I got a laugh out of it. At my age I was beginning to question my sanity when I read 107.

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      Mary Norton 

      11 months ago from Ontario, Canada

      Short but substantial. We can only absorb so much anyway. I get the spammy notice once in a while, too. The first time, I got upset and moved my articles. Then, I realize if I remove the Amazon ads, the article gets featured. I suppose the fact that they are still around and doing quite well is testament that they know what they're doing.

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      Heidi Thorne 

      11 months ago from Chicago Area

      Happy Mailbag Monday!

      Re: HP Content Issues. I realize that HP is trying to appease the Google and other online gods by tweaking articles. I've even had some notes about overuse of this or that, too many links, etc. So, like you, I don't let it bug me and go with what they suggest. Anything they can do to keep this site relevant is appreciated.

      Anyway, client work is slowing down as we approach the holiday, but am ramping up a number of other efforts, primarily audio books. Also have a bunch of posts that I need to get done here on HP. Oh well...

      Have a beautiful week!

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      Kristen Howe 

      11 months ago from Northeast Ohio

      I like your style Bill. Ann, for me, it was usually a link or something for the matter. Maybe she can share the hub with the forum and ask for feedback. That's what I do too.

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      Shaloo Walia 

      11 months ago from India

      I also have often wondered about the spammy content as their mails really give no clue as to what amendment is required in the hub. But I agree with you to keep writing for HP. I now mostly write for my own blogs but occasionally write on HO just to stay in touch.

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Of course they did, Ann! lol What else would they say? I wonder, some time, if real people work at HP.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks for your suggestion, Kristen. I take the easy road and don't even bother to ask HP anything. lol

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Frank, that one came from my dad. He always said that....some things stay with us forever, buddy!

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Janine! For the next couple days we won't gain or lose any time, so we have that to cling to. lol

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      Eric Dierker 

      11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I thought you pitchers could not hit the ball, yet this one is out of the park. Maybe like Larry Dierker the youngest ever?

      Bill it is the pain. You know my kind of writing. It is painful. I understand cathartic, all well and good and true to me.

      But Bill I also know you and you write of character's pain. I just assume when your character is in pain -- so are you.

      Does 'ya got's a band-aid?

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      Bill Holland 

      11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank goodness, Ann! You had me worried for awhile. I don't need any more HP friends leaving this site.

      As for your partner Eeyore, that made me laugh....

      Have a monstrous Monday my friend.

      bill

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      Linda Lum 

      11 months ago from Washington State, USA

      Bill, like you I am happy to have winter in the rear view mirror for a few months at least. The long days are much appreciated. Good advice on spam and we do NOT want Ann to back up her bags. (Also I'm sorry that I messed up on the number of mailbags you've posted).

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      Ann Carr 

      11 months ago from SW England

      I'm grateful for Kristen's suggestion. I did that and they referred me to the Learning Centre. Thanks anyway.

      Ann

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      Kristen Howe 

      11 months ago from Northeast Ohio

      Another great mailbag from you Bill. As for historical fiction, Ken Follett's the Pillars of the Earth and the sequel (both real long) are excellent examples and great reading. As for swammy content, Ann could contact HP via email and ask them what they referred to as such. It has happened to me in the past and in my early days.

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      Frank Atanacio 

      11 months ago from Shelton

      Water off a duck's back LOL.. clever.. this series continues in good sportsmanship... you deliver all honesty .. and I hear you on the longest day.. and as always...fantastic mailbag!!!

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      Janine Huldie 

      11 months ago from New York, New York

      Aw, Bill I am not looking forward to heading back to winter and darker days. Luckily we are still only in June and going to enjoy every moment while I can though. Just had to stop by to wish you a Happy Monday on this first day of summer vacation for my own girls here. Have a great week ahead now!!

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      Ann Carr 

      11 months ago from SW England

      Thank you, bill, for answering my questions. Their examples of 'spam' don't seem to correspond to anything I've done, so I'm still at a loss. However, most of the time I seem to be doing ok.

      Thank you for your kind words regarding me staying on HP. I've had my little rant and got over it but what keeps me going mainly is people like you. All those here who read, comment and support me are worth much more than a thousand silly emails!

      Great mailbag, as always. I think this series will go on for ever, as of course will you!

      I know what you mean about the longest day; my partner, the eternal pessimist, always says 'Ah well, it's downhill from now on, getting darker every day.' It's being so cheerful that keeps him going!

      Have a marvellous mass of Monday muses, bill!

      Ann

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