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The Writer's Mailbag: Installment One-Hundred and Thirty

Updated on January 18, 2017

And a Happy New Year to You All

Are we really about to say hello to 2017? It just blows my mind that 2016 is coming to an end. It was one hell of a year for me, the good and the bad, and I’m sure you all echo that statement. I’m determined to make 2017 a better year. It will take determination, and a willingness to work hard, but thanks to my parents, I’ve got a surplus of those traits.

I want to wish you all a very Happy New Year! Thank you for your loyal support. You may not know it, but you all mean so much to me. You continue to give me gifts daily. You are, in a very real sense, my extended family, and you are always appreciated.

Enough of that syrupy slop. Let’s get to the mail.

Welcome to the Mail Room
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No Question, Just a Comment About Grammarly

From Zulma: “Hey, Bill. At the risk of repeating myself, I must say how pleased I am with Grammarly. It checks spelling, grammar, and plagiarism. It explains why the grammar is incorrect and how to fix it. It spots duplicate content quickly and provides information on where to find it. I was hesitant at first about paying for a subscription. However, a craftsman always has the right tools for the job. Grammarly is a tool I use to ensure I'm producing the best I can. I wouldn't be without it.

“On a different note...there is a fun website called 'I Write Like' where you submit a sample of your writing and it tells you who you write like. I've tried a few times and have been compared to Gertrude Stein and Dostoyevsky (!!!). Perhaps you and your followers might like to give it a try. The link is www.iwl.me

No question there, so no answer from me, but thank you, Zulma. I encourage all of you to check out that link. If Zulma recommends it then it’s worth a look. The same goes for Grammarly.

MY PREFERENCE

From Dora: “Do you have a favorite among the books you have written? If I could only buy one, which would you recommend? Why?”

Dora, thanks so much for this inquiry. Although a majority of my novels and novellas are mystery/thrillers, my favorite, and the one I would recommend for you, is “Resurrecting Tobias.” It is as close to autobiographical as I’ll come with a novel. It’s a story about all of us, the trials and tribulations we all face as we walk this path of life, and I think you’ll be able to relate to the lessons served in that novel.

I also love “The 12/59 Shuttle,” since it was my first, but it’s not a novel I would recommend to just anyone. It’s wild and crazy and crude, unpolished, me at my rawest as a writer. No, for pure entertainment and a banquet of food for thought, I would go with Tobias.

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How Much Dialogue?

From Lori: “Hi Bill, here's a question for your mailbag series - you are still doing it, right? In my recent fiction story I tend to use tons of dialogue. I'm not sure why, but that's how it comes. The story is very much about relationships. When is dialogue to much or not working and what is the best alternative?”

Lori, I could literally write an entire article about this question. Since I don’t have the time to do so, I’ll just write a long answer here.

The three main components of any novel are dialogue, narration, and action. These are the fuel that drives a novel along to its conclusion, and good novelists have an innate ability to use all three in balance. There is no steadfast rule regarding how much of each to use. This is one of those things that you learn over time. One just gets a sense of when to use dialogue, when to use narration, and when to use action. Too much of one will bog a novel down. Too little of one can leave a reader wondering what just happened.

It is always a good idea to incorporate all three in every scene. This gives each scene balance, and I believe engages readers on an emotional level.

The other thing to consider is pacing. What are your intentions in a scene? If it is a fast-paced situation, perhaps an abundance of dialogue will move that scene along quickly. If it is important that the readers understand why a character is doing something, then perhaps an interjection of narrative will do well. If it is a highly-charged scene, like a car chase, then let the action do the talking. Think in terms of real life. If you were in a hair-raising car chase, screeching around corners, barely staying on the road, you wouldn’t be carrying on a dialogue with someone. The action will deliver much better than a conversation could deliver.

One other random thought: it is always good to have multiple characters in each major scene. This gives you the option of having dialogue should you choose to use it.

The balance of action, narrative, and dialogue will give your story rhythm, and rhythm is something we, as writers, should always strive for.

Great question, Lori!

Write, Publish, and Repeat
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What’s the Secret?

From Brad: “I’m not doing terribly well with my sef-published eBooks. What’s the secret to eBook success?”

The best advice I can give you, Brad, comes from a book I read last year titled “Write, Publish, Repeat.” In that book the writer suggests that eBook success comes from repeating those three things ad infinitum. The eBook industry, and success in that industry, is a numbers game. The more books you have, the better your chances are of gaining attention and notoriety. Once someone stumbles upon one of your books, and likes it, the better the chances are that they will then pick up another of your books and read that one, so you build a foundation and then let that foundation be your earnings-maker over time.

Write, publish, and repeat!

I currently have two series going on, the “Shadow Series,” and the “Billy the Kid Chronicles.” Using the previously-stated logic, if someone likes one book in a series they will be more willing to purchase another book in that series.

But…and there is always a but…the first thing, the most important thing, that you should be concerned with is writing a quality book. If you write slop then I promise you readers will read that slop and then stop looking for more of your slop. Quality wins the day and I will go to my grave believing that.

And I’ll throw in a second but for free: this is the eBook world we’re talking about, and there are literally millions of new eBooks each year. It’s a big ocean you’re swimming in, and the chances of finding a life boat are slim, so you may never find success.

How’s that for a dose of reality?

HAPPY NEW YEAR

That was it for questions this week so we might as well wrap it up. Have a great and safe New Year, and again, thank you for your friendship and support.

2016 William D. Holland (aka billybuc) #greatestunknownauthor

“Helping writers to spread their wings and fly.”

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      Ann Carr 6 months ago from SW England

      Great advice as always. The 'dialogue, narrative, action' trilogy is good, succinct advice - writing in a nutshell!

      It's great reading your answers as they remind me of what I know but have usually forgotten. I read and I say, 'Yes, of course, I knew that!' Who am I kidding?!

      It's Boxing Day here, the second day's holiday in the Christmas festival - the Victorians started it and used it for giving presents (in boxes). We use it for good walks if the weather's fine, and catching up on family we didn't see on Christmas Day. I used to go walking in the countryside with my Dad and/or cousins whilst Mum prepared a delicious gammon joint at home - such fond memories.

      Happy New Year to you, bill. I hope 2017 brings all you wish for yourself and your loved ones, including good health and great joy.

      Ann :)

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      Lori Colbo 6 months ago from Pacific Northwest

      I found your answer to my dialogue question very helpful.

      I am going to look into grammerly.

      I read Raising Tobias. It was unique. A good read.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Well Ann, now I know what Boxing Day is. I didn't know that until you graciously filled me in. Thank you! I always thought it was a rather bizarre name for a holiday, but that makes perfect sense. Duh!

      Great memories! Thank you for sharing them with me.

      Happy New Year dear friend. I look forward to more great memories involving our friendship.

      bill

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Lori, I'm glad that helped. It's an easy thing to forget. I find most writers know this stuff already, but we get so busy writing that we forget some of the rules. Thank you for reading Tobias, and Happy New Year to you!

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      social thoughts 6 months ago from New Jersey

      Bill,

      As usual, your answers were straight-forward. I love your tone!

      Interesting advice on the scenes, as well. Even if I don't write fiction, I can see how this may be applied elsewhere.

      Happy New Year!

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      Heidi Thorne 6 months ago from Chicago Area

      Happy Boxing Day and Mailbag Monday!

      Re: eBook Success and Getting Real. The tip to keep on publishing more QUALITY books is a valid one. One builds upon the next, and so on, and so on...

      But you are absolutely right. The eBook ocean is deep and wide. I've found that authors often have unrealistic ideas of what they can earn from their books or eBooks. So when your reader says he's not doing "terribly well," I'd love to know what that means. Not paying the mortgage with eBook sales? Not making $100 this year? Not able to retire on eBook income? Time to get real about what's possible.

      (P.S. On a related and relevant note, I just finished the self publishing author survey. You'll appreciate. Stay tuned for results in January.)

      Thanks for another year of connection and friendship. Happy New Year!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you Kailey and Happy New Year to you. I hope this new year is a bit more agreeable for you....which will lead to much happiness. :)

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks, Heidi, and Happy New Year to you. I'm looking forward to seeing the results of the survey. Should be interesting!

      Write, publish, repeat...my ebook advice and always will be.

      bill

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      William Kovacic 6 months ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

      The mail just keeps coming, Bill, and it's bee so helpful. Thanks, as always. Wishing you the best in the coming year.

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 6 months ago from Southern Illinois

      I never miss reading your mailbag. I love the way you tell it like it is! I went to the site suggested by Zulma and wrote a paragraph, it said that I wrote like Mario Puzo, Hee..It was fun...

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you, Bill, and Happy New Year to you as well.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Well shoot, Ruby, I think that's a great comparison. :) Thanks so much and Happy New Year, dear friend.

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      Melissa Propp 6 months ago from Minnesota

      Happy Monday Bill! And since we'll be already started on 2017 by the time I'm reading your next mailbag...Happy New Year!

      I was able to finish the Shadows Over a Hangman's Noose this weekend and I have to tell you it is my FAVORITE thus far! I still need to get a review up, just wanted to let you know I thought it was really good. Now I have to wait until spring for the next? Ah well, all good things are worth the wait!

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      Martie Coetser 6 months ago from South Africa

      Happy New Year, dear Billy!

      I once tried Grammarly, but then Microsoft Office's spell- and grammar checker remained my favorite.

      May 2017 meets all your expectation :)

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      Paula 6 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Bro....Wishing a very Happy New Year to you & Bev & your offspring!! May 2017 be one crazy-wonderful, happy-healthy-lucky year for the entire Holland Clan.....to include all the urban farm critters. It isn't every day I get to tell a friend that I thought of him when I saw an adorable baby goat!! Now that's special!! Peace, Paula

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Melissa, I'm honored that you bought it and read it so fast. Thank you so much for the kind words. The next one? It's moving along quickly. I might have it published by March at this rate...maybe sooner.

      If you do post a review, thank you in advance, and Happy New Year to you. Stay warm and safe.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Happy New Year, Martie, and thanks for the review on Office.....wishing you a brilliant 2017!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Sis, love and blessings to you in 2017, and thank you for being the best online sister a man could ask for. You are a treat for me, the frosting on the cake of life. :) Hugs from Olympia...and aren't baby goats adorable?

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      Paula 6 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      They ARE! totally adorable. Cutest "babies" of the Kingdom.

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      Bill De Giulio 6 months ago from Massachusetts

      Hi Bill. Another wonderful edition of the mail-bag to wrap up 2016. I agree, can't believe we are on the verge of 2017. But, I am very much looking forward to 2017. We'll be on the road a lot next year including, I hope, a visit to the great Pacific Northwest. Stay tuned and a Happy New Year to you.

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      kbdressman 6 months ago from Harlem, New York

      Wonderful advice! I think your answer to Lori's question about dialogue is spot on. Many aspiring writers could benefit from pondering their dialogue/action/narrative balance. Although, I think most writers have the opposite problem Lori was writing you about! Learning to write good dialogue, or include dialogue at all, seems to be a challenge for many!

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      Chitrangada Sharan 6 months ago from New Delhi, India

      As always, a very absorbing installment!

      I was thinking you might be busy with Christmas celebrations and what about the Q-A installment this Monday. But I was sure you would publish for sure, knowing you by your writings.

      Thanks for your wishes for the New Year and I reciprocate the same sentiments!

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      Denise McGill 6 months ago from Fresno CA

      Thanks for another great mailbag. I love reading your advice. I makes me want to write better every week. Have a great week and see you next year.

      Blessings,

      Denise

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      Nancy Mitchell 6 months ago from Bend, OR

      Happy New Year, Bill! Thanks for the entertaining and informative Mailbag. I can't imagine writing numerous books like you have. My goal is to finish one. Thanks always for the inspiration.

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      Sally Gulbrandsen 6 months ago from Norfolk

      Happy New Year Billy. I hope it is the best one yet!

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      Buildreps 6 months ago from Europe

      "I Write Like" was a nice suggestion. I plucked just a random piece of text and paste it into the site. I seem to write like Asimov. Sounds all right to me. I wish you a great week and the best wishes for 2017!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Agreed, Sis!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I will stay tuned, Bill, and I'm excited that it might happen. See you soon, my friend, and Happy New Year to you.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      kbdressman, thank you! I agree, by the way: I think dialogue is the hardest of the three elements, and I think it takes years to reach the point where it flows naturally.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Chitrangada Sharan, I'm never too busy for the mail. :) Thank you and Happy New Year to you.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      That's a very kind thing for you to say, Denise. Thank you, blessings to you, and Happy New Year.

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      Janine Huldie 6 months ago from New York, New York

      Just stopping in today as I am catching up after the long holiday weekend. My girls are still off, but my husband finally went back to work today. So, am so happy to see an update with your Mailbag and also want to wish you a very, Happy New Year in the next few days, as well!! :)

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      Venkatachari M 6 months ago from Hyderabad, India

      A very interesting mailbag as always. Your answer to the question of Dialogue, how much to use it is great. Dialogue, narration, and action are the very essential and important parts of a novel as you well pointed out.

      Regarding Grammarly, I also recommend it as I am much satisfied with it. I use only the free subscribed version of Grammarly, not the paid version. And, it is sufficient for anybody to write good content without grammatical mistakes.

      Thanks for the wonderful insights provided by you through these series during the year 2016 and I wish for more expansion of my knowledge in 2017 through your mailbag.

      Wish you and your family a Happy New Year.

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      Linda Lum 6 months ago from Washington State, USA

      Thank you for taking the time from your holiday to give us a Mailbag. Just for grins and giggles I inserted the introduction to one of my food hugs into "I Write Like" -- the answer was Stephen King. ...I'm not sure what to make of that.

      I hope you have a wonderful week and a safe and happy New Year. I for one am glad to kick 2016 to the curb. Dickens had it half right.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you letstalk, and a very Happy New Year to you as well. Once you've written one, the next ones are progressively easier...trust me on that. :)

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you, Sally, and Happy New Year to you, dear friend.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I could live with that comparison, Buildreps. I'm glad you tried it out.

      Happy New Year, my friend, and thank you!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Janine, welcome back, and thank you. I wish you the happiest of New Years. Let's hope 2017 is filled with successes for us both.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so very much, Venkatachari M. I appreciate you loyal following and friendship, and I wish you the happiest of New Years. Blessings always!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Linda? You? Stephen King? I'll be laughing the rest of the day over that piece of news.

      Thank you my Northwest friend. I greatly appreciate and enjoy you. Let's make 2017 a year to remember in nothing but positive ways.

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      Shyron E Shenko 6 months ago from Texas

      Bill, this is by far your best mailbag ever and I will keep it handy for reference.

      Hope you had a blessed Christmas and have a great New Year.

      Blessings and hugs to you and Bev.

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      Larry Rankin 6 months ago from Oklahoma

      Happy New Year Bill.

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      MizBejabbers 6 months ago

      Hi, Bill, interesting comment from Zulma. She is a great writer and valuable resource. As an editor, I strive for perfection (start the laugh track now). I wasn't sure I'd give up my microsoft spell checker, but now I have a Mac, that's out the window. I'm just now learning to use Word on Mac, so Grammarly will have to wait. Hope you had a great Christmas. Happy New Year, friend.

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      Brian Leekley 6 months ago from Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA

      Your reply to Lori is right-on. Another possibility to consider is whether that particular story would be best told as a stage play or a radio drama.

      Grammarly is often wrong but is right often enough to be well worth using. I use the free online account and simply paste in text to get a grammar check.

      In your fiction writing, are you always working on a first draft of one work, the revising of another work, and the polishing and marketing of another work, or do you focus on one work at a time and not start something new until that work is done and submitted, posted, or self-published?

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 6 months ago from Riga, Latvia

      I am bound and determined to make 2017 a banner year for myself. Having said that there is one little problem - I have no idea how to do that. So I am like a squirrel storing up all the information and good advice I need to do things right and your mailbag has been a great help. So looking forward to the New Year I some questions for you but on one topic - when selecting material in my case poems for an e-book can they all be poems that have been published online, how many poems should be the limit and can photos be added.

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 6 months ago from The Caribbean

      More helpful advice, and thanks for answering my question. I'm ordering the book later today.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, Shyron! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      And Happy New Year to you, Larry! Thank you!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      MIzB, you are like me in a lot of ways. I can only learn one tech thing at a time. Anything after that is overload for this old boy. :) Happy New Year, dear friend.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Brian, thanks for your thoughts on Grammarly. Much-appreciated. Thanks for the question. I'll see you next week with the answer.

      Happy New Year my friend.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Wow, Rasma, I've never had that question before, which is quite an accomplishment on your part. :) Happy New Year and I hope 2017 is everything you want it to be. Thank you and Happy New Year!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Dora, thank you so much. I truly do appreciate you and I hope your New Year is filled with love and joy.

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      Cynthia B Turner 6 months ago from Georgia

      Happy New Year! Excellent advice as always. I look forward to your continued installments from your writer's bag. When you write, the questions never end! Questions others have usually bleed into questions I may have, for instance how to get your ebook noticed (I don't have one but some of my clients do) so your corner of the world is much appreciated. Take care.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Hi, Cyndi, and Happy New Year to you as well. I'll include that question in the Mailbag for next week, okay, since I'm a little short on questions for next week. :) Thanks a bunch.

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      Linda Crampton 6 months ago from British Columbia, Canada

      Thank you once again for continuing this series. Happy New Year, Bill.

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      jo miller 6 months ago from Tennessee

      Another wonderful installment. And I agree, your parents trained you well. I'm always impressed. Happy New Year!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Happy New Year, Linda, and thank you very much.

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thanks, Jo! When I see my parents in the afterlife, I'll be sure and tell them that they did so. :) Happy New Year!

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      Aliswell 6 months ago from Iowa

      As the we humans, regard a year equating to 365.24 days. Or 8,765 hours, or 526,000 minutes, or 31.6 million seconds, and as we are fast approaching the end of another one-- I would like to pass on to you my sincere appreciation for, and admiration of your excellence in expressing your craft, and your "above and beyond" time spent contribution of human compassion to all your appreciative followers!

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      Bill Holland 6 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Al, it is my pleasure. Always has been, always will be. We writers have to stick together, my friend.

      Happy New Year to you!

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      sannwi 5 months ago from Earth

      Great advice on writing. I especially enjoyed the first letter where Zulma talks about Grammarly. Being new here, I think I missed that previous hub. I love Grammarly. I believe that it is a must for any writer out there. It has made me a far better writer. I also enjoy how it not only corrects but teaches the user.

      That "I write like" site she shared is pretty fun. Not sure how accurate it is, but it is fun.

      Anyhoo, this was fun to read and I love how you've made this a 'series'. It reminds me of the old style newspaper columns that were always fun to read before the internet came along. LOL, maybe they still have them, I just never pick up a paper these days.

      Happy New Year To You and Yours! It's going to be a Great one (◠‿◠✿)

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      Bill Holland 5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you so much, SA! I appreciate someone new who takes the time to become a part of the community. I'll be a loyal follower in 2017. I'm old enough to remember fondly those newspaper columns....I just wish someone would pay me to do this stuff that I love so much. :)

      Happy New Year to you!

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      sannwi 5 months ago from Earth

      I too will be a loyal follower :)

      Thank You!

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      Bill Holland 5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      You are very welcome, SA. Happy New Year!

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      Zulma Burgos-Dudgeon 5 months ago from United Kingdom

      Happy New Year, Bill!

      Wow, I didn't think you were going to use the entire comment. I thought it was the Grammarly part. :) It's nice that people are having a go on I Write Like. I think it's good fun.

      Regarding, Brian's comment on Grammarly being more wrong than right, it's a fair point. Grammarly uses established rules of grammar and spelling when searching for errors. Many of the 'mistakes' it highlights in my text occur in dialogue where such rules often go out the window when writing how your characters speak. Sometimes I ignore the suggestions because I feel the correction would disrupt the flow of the story. Grammarly is a tool I use to assist me. At the end of the day, I am the author and I decide what's best for the story.

      Also, good advice on dialogue. I enjoy dialogue but sometimes I rely on it too much. My son says it reads more like a script which needs a director to provide motivation. I'll be taking this advice on board to balance things out more.

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      Bill Holland 5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Happy New Year, Zulma, and, as always, thank you so much. Dialogue is a tricky one for all of us. I have to edit mine constantly to find the right balance, and I suspect all writers do. Anyway, thank you for the question and follow-up on Grammarly.

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      Dianna Mendez 5 months ago

      Hope you have a wonderful 2017! Enjoyed the questions and advice given.

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      Bill Holland 5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Thank you, Dee, and I wish, for you, a brilliant 2017 as well.

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      Shauna L Bowling 5 months ago from Central Florida

      Interesting questions, Bill. I love your shoot-from-the-hip-no-sugar-coated answers. Right on, my friend!

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      Bill Holland 5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Sha, I think, as more years pass, I'm losing more and more of my sugar-coating. :) Funny how that works, isn't it?

      Have a superb week my dear friend.

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      Lawrence Hebb 5 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Bill

      Great advice here, I like the stuff about dialogue here, and the idea of two or more characters in a scene.

      I think you're right about eBooks being a 'numbers' game, but for me, quality is also a 'biggie'.

      Blessings

      Lawrence

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      Bill Holland 5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I couldn't agree more with your final thought, Lawrence. I will always advice quality first and numbers second. We don't need more mediocrity.

      blessings always

      bill

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      Lawrence Hebb 5 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Amen to that!

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      Bill Holland 5 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Yessir, Lawrence!

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