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A Vote for Bernie is a Vote for Trump

Updated on May 12, 2016
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I'm on the right side of politics and enjoy a good debate on government, the economy, and the rights of the people.

The 2016 primary has been anything but normal. The 17 member-strong Republican field has been narrowed down to only one, Donald Trump, now the presumptive nominee and champion of the people stands alone on the right awaiting his next opponent. His America First Populist agenda has resonated loudly and proudly with the populace who have grown weary of special-interest supporting, business-as-usual, professional politicians running the nation into the ground. His rise to greatness has been a knock-down, drag-out, cat-scratch-fever of a fight and he's demonstrated that he won't be intimidated, coerced, or bullied into accepting the nomination on any other terms except his and his alone. The race has been called everything from a circular firing squad to an all out war by the media, the pundits, and of course, the vanquished. With harsh words, angry gestures, and a brutal take-no-prisoners approach, Trump has been battle tested and emerged unscathed. The media and some of the unhappy conservative sites want everyone to believe that there is a civil war raging within the Republican party, since the old guard party elite were too slow to react to the Trump surge. Thinking they would eventually be turned to for sagelike guidance on how to stop Trump and his message, they kept pouring money into the coffers of candidate after candidate, hoping, no praying they'd eventually discover his weakness, yet watched in astonishment as each in turn fell short. They launched salvo after salvo trying to gain traction with voters on messages about perceived racism, sexism, inexperience, or lack of a clear pathway to victory using entire chapters of the Liberal playbook to execute their nefarious plans to derail Trump. And as the perceived battle raged, the Democrats giggled with glee, watching what they saw to be a complete meltdown of the GOP, seemingly putting their opponents on a pathway to extinction.

Hillary is the Chosen One

The infighting, name-calling, and schoolyard tactics of the overcrowded GOP field provided the mainstream media with a plethora of negative talking points which should have kept their presses running well into November. Story after story surfaced with a wide list of topics; the superstructure was fractured, donors were holding back, Trump was forever damaging the GOP brand, and more. It was beginning to look like money-in-the-bank for an easy and convincing win by the Democrats, specifically Hillary Rodham Clinton, the "chosen one" as far as party elites were concerned, to be the Democratic nominee in 2016. The Democratic field paled in comparison with only three serious candidates on the early stage; a severely underfunded Martin O'Malley and admitted socialist Bernie Sanders, who decided to shift from Independent to Democrat in order to run. With hundreds of super delegates committed to her before any votes were even cast, America and the world had little doubt of her eventual ascendency. The press was working in lockstep with her campaign team to minimize the leakage of stories about her e-mail server, her foreign connections with the Clinton Foundation, and any other wild-card negatives. She seemed to have placated President Obama enough that he would support her run and hopefully share his extensive database of contacts to aid her cause. It was all wine and roses and appeared to be the red carpet treatment for her primary run, which would allow her to stockpile cash and get ahead of the Republicans by many months in campaigning for the general election. Everything was going according to plan; a plan which would quickly be unraveled starting with a very narrow race in Iowa.

Clinton versus Sanders

With a margin of victory so thin that it raised eyebrows, the Clinton camp was forced to make excuses and create a false narrative about how Bernie Sanders was not a real contender. When he won New Hampshire a week later the excuse was "home field advantage." Once she easily won the next four states, things calmed and once again the Party elite were complacent. Across the asile, Donald Trump won state after state with his Make America Great Again slogan driving his message home. Perhaps Bernie Sanders saw the success Trump was having, perhaps his income inequality/rigged economy message was just taking longer to resonate, or perhaps his ground team was just fine tuning their game. Whatever the case, Bernie started winning, and winning big in big states, making the race more interesting each week. Hillary won the states that reflected the machine political platform of the party but was losing in areas with young voters; His message of socialism resonated with them. They weren't necessarily ready to accept wealth redistribution but support taxing the rich and helping the poor. Hillary's ties to big money, Wall Street, and the wealthy donor class was becoming a liability and was turning voters away from her message. There was truly a real and growing fracture within the Democratic Party; a civil war where the armies were just forming and battle lines were still in the planning stages.

The GOP army led by General Trump

On the other side of the political world, General Trump has clearly course corrected the internal issues with most of the Republican Party elite and the conservative media. Even anti-Trump on-line personalities like Glen Beck and Mark Levin are speaking in a positive way about Mr. Trump lately. Trump will quickly mend the fence with House Speaker Paul Ryan and outside of holdout Mitt Romney, should have all of his troops positioned and on the field within a few weeks; all of this while the Democrat Primary is still in progress. The great Republican revolt is nothing more than a whimper now as the elites line up for spots at Trump's table. The neo-cons will certainly try to weave their threads into Trump's agenda, and the angry American right will certainly push Trump to keep on message, but eventually both sides will soften and find common ground; Trump will be the kingmaker, the face of the party, and the voice of the American people. The sad crew of sellouts who got behind the #NeverTrump group will be punished behind closed doors and forced to publically endorse Trump. The feud Trump had with Fox commentator Megyn Kelly has even come to and end; again, all while the Democrat race is still undecided. This fact is significant for many reasons, namely because it gives Trump more time to speak to his audience, more time to hone his message, and more time to prepare his attack strategy on Hillary, or Bernie, depending on who finally gets the nod.

The Real Civil War

Now that the only focus in the Primaries is the Democratic ones, people are just beginning to see the facts of the matter; Inside the Democratic Party a real war is brewing. It's a battle for the hearts and minds of the youth, the minorities, the gender-fluid crowd, the environmentalists, the open-border crowd, Wall Street money, green energy, and common core crowd. The primary race going this far has obviously demonstrated that there is unrest in Liberal land. It's not about electability, it's not about a path to victory, it's about Progressivism versus socialism. Hillary claims to be a Progressive but Bernie Sanders is just-as or even more progressive than Hillary on just about every issue; the economy, nationalized health care, campaign finance reform, foreign policy, and LGBT rights. The self-proclaimed Democratic Socialist has been consistent for most of his political career on what he stands for, unlike Mrs. Clinton who has changed her stance on several topics over the years. Some pundits argue that Hillary tries too hard to be uber-Liberal, bending with the changing winds to support even the most fringe groups. The major issues show striking differences and would seem to lean heavily in the favor of Clinton.

Sanders

The top four issues in the general election will be the economy/jobs, foreign policy and America's role, immigration/open-borders, and Obamacare. National Security, TPP, and several other important issues will be discussed, but not the level as the top four. Bernie has no experience in foreign policy and with America coming off of 8 years of weak foreign policy under President Obama, electing Bernie would make things worse. Bernie wants to raise taxes on the middle and upper classes to fund trillions of dollars in new spending. More than half of Americans disapprove of Obamacare and many failures and cost overruns are to blame, however Sanders wants to ratchet it up and go even further in the way of government sponsored healthcare, eventually moving to single-payer. These are all very Progressive positions but fundamentally go against everything this country stands for.

Clinton

Hillary Clinton has baggage from her years as a Washington insider in various roles. It's inevitable that a lot of those topics will reach the debate stage if she wins the nomination. E-mails, her husband Bill and his lifestyle, her ties to big money, Benghazi, and Clinton Cash are topics which come to mind as hot topics. Her foreign policy experience can be viewed as an extension of the Obama policies and her role as Secretary of State was tainted by American deaths overseas. Her relationships with Middle Eastern billionaires has been under scrutiny and called "influence peddling" by some. When the wealthy class bought and paid for the Democratic Party courtesy of her husband Bill Clinton, the old values and tenants started evaporating, now so far gone as the membership is considering a Socialist. She is all-in for a massive increase in the minimum wage, somehow equating that to economic prosperity for America. She's all about "reform" for immigration which is just a nice way of saying amnesty and open-borders.

The issues within the party

As Clinton struggles to become more Progressive than Sanders, even adopting some of his talking points as her own America is realizing that today's Democratic Party is a shadow of what it used to be. Now it's an ever shifting tsunami of event-driven talking points with too wide of an umbrella trying to be all things to all people. Hillary espouses that mentality and that's what's getting her in trouble with voters. She practices what her Party brethren would call Republican-like principles in her personal life, surrounded by obscene wealth, monied bankers and hedge fund managers, and foreign influence. Bernie on the other hand is funded by millions of small donations from regular people. It's the ultimate battle of big versus little. Add the fuel to the fire of Bernie offering a bigger bag of "freebies" than even Obama, including free tuition, and it's easy to see how Liberal Democrats are shifting his way. Younger Democrats see Bernie as a standard bearer who won't flip-flop for the sake of gaining personal political capital, something Hillary regularly does. Hillary Clinton plays the woman-card, rides the old-school gravy train of racial politics, and uses her well-oiled machine to hide any transgressions; Bernie really doesn't have any skeletons in his closet. Clinton voters say they'd vote for Sanders if he was the nominee, but a large portion of Sanders voters would not reciprocate, and could possibly shift to Trump. Clinton has been doing everything to demonstrate she's in touch with voters of all ages and classes, while Sanders just sticks to his message with few hurdles.

How they stack up

Business Insider, a highly reputable publication has put together a wonderful chart on how the two candidates stack up and it's well worth reviewing and making your own determinations on what will make or break the race. What is clear, that at the moment its a contested convention. Hillary cannot win the nomination without the support of Superdelegates at the convention. Sanders is fighting hard and repeatedly stating how the system is rigged in support of the anointed one, and in many ways he is right.

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The Issues in America

The following list are some of the things the next President will deal with both good and bad. I'm sure many readers will add to this list and I encourage them to do so.

1. Supreme Court Justices - it's likely that several will be replaced in the text term, leading to a stacked court on one side or another - this is bad for America, but good for party politics

2. Climate change or lack of climate change legislation - this impacts our national energy programs, environmental regulations, and more

3. Obamacare - scrap it, fix it, change it, no one is sure what will happen with this impactful and huge wild card issue

4. The Middle East - should we stay or should we go? How to handle radical Islam?

5. Immigration - illegal and legal entry into America has become a huge topic - are we open borders or should we build a wall?

Summary

Is a vote for Bernie actually a vote for Trump? The answer lies in how you look at it. Every state Sanders wins adds another wrinkle to Hillary Clinton's forehead. His tenacity and vocal message isn't going away anytime, his growing support base and their disdain for business-as-usual politics is standing tall and seemingly refuses to back down or fall into line with party doctrine just because someone told them to. It's no secret that if Hillary gets the nod, they will perceive it as a machine-politics practice of using Superdelegates to keep the little-guy off of the main stage. They have an open-minded approach and seriously would consider Donald Trump, another outsider, instead of Hillary. Trump may not have the big goodie basket they want, but some of his other topics can overcome that. America First means a lot to a country with almost 100 million people out of the workforce, closing the border once and for all means a lot to older Americans who are afraid of cultural dilution and the dangers of foreign criminals on our home soils, cleaning house in Washington resonates with all regular people who are tired of the same old practices and same old people running us into the ground with excessive spending, projects to nowhere, and outright waste. How will it end is anyone's guess, but the one thing we can all agree on is that the Civil War within the Democratic Party is no where near over.

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    So you are in favor of higher taxes? How high? Socialist high? Maybe vote Sanders. Me, I'm all about keeping my own earned money, not handing it over for redistribution and to line Democrats pockets

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    Yes Dear 20 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Hmmmm, hes meeting with Kissinger. Wonder if the con spiracy theorists will revile him for it, like they did Hil? (Lol. It will be a good thing, now)

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    Yes Dear 20 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Trump wants tax cuts as way to expand economy. Same tired bs weve heard for 40 years. Hes working for the monied class, and HE will profit most. Thats the art of the deal.

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    You are a talking point parrot - explain trickle down economics - now remember, I am an Economist.

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    Yes Dear 20 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    "Women who have abortions should face punishment." "I will nominate a supreme court justice who will overturn roe v wade." Trickle down voodoo economics means we all pay more to live.

    Get rid of aca. Back to healthcare for those with lots of money only. Repeal Iran deal. Get ready for war. Sheldon wants it, and Sheldon is backing Dumpy.

    Remove my repro decisions-force me to do what he thinks is right with my life and body, send our kids and tax dollars to war, make us uninsured nation yet again.

    Get this frat boy the heck out of here. Humpty Dumpty Trumpy fell off the wall.

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    The Atlantic is about as biased as a "reputable" magazine can get, so, no I won't be citing anything from it.

    Please show us exactly what Mr. Trump said that will take away any freedoms you have now - your body or life?

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    Yes Dear 20 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Actually, you should read recent article in the Atlantic. Trump actually said he could run for prez and make money off it.

    Hes courting donors now, big time. Sheldon Adelson is for him. So much for America First. Everyone knows where that guys loyalty lies.

    My prediction? After they remove all the "nuisances", you know, people who have lived there for centuries, they will make the Middle East into one big casino. And who better to facilitate that then Donald J Trump.

    Certain people just love the bravado and bluster of a carnival barker.

    Me, I don't appreciate some rich boy telling me what I can and can't do with my body and my life.

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    Ken Burgess 20 months ago from Florida

    @lovemychris

    It is sad that you (and so many others) can't see the truth of what Trump really is.

    Trump just wants to put America first, If I was him, I'd just take my billions and go buy the Bahamas or someplace similar and let America fester and fall, he is a better man than I am, he wants to do something for his country.

    Unfortunately there are millions of fools in this country that think a man worth Billions is in it for the money, or for the position... how sad is that, that people are so blind (or ignorant) that they can't see the criminals have taken over Washington, and those crooks are selling us all down the river.

    Ask yourself how has Hillary become worth over 100 million dollars, she's been a lifelong politician, public speaker and non-profiteer... how does that translate into over 100 million dollar worth?

    Right now the media wants to slam home that Trump is a sexist pig. Lets just ignore the reality that he hired women for top jobs before it was even PC to do so. Was JFK a pig? Was Bill Clinton a pig? Go ahead... tell me who made a good President, who steered the country in the right direction... chances are they were 'Pigs', but hey, lets not let too much reality get in the way of how we perceive Trump.

    This is like the other issue the I see the anti-Trump crowd clinging to... the bankruptcy thing... the man has probably invested himself into over a thousand businesses in his lifetime, I can't imagine the scope of that, or the experience that has given him to work off of. A couple businesses going bad is like getting 4 questions wrong on a 1,000 question test.

    This guy took a moderate family business in NY, and turned it into a worldwide recognized conglomeration ... not one person in 10 million could do that, that is how unique what he has done with his life is.

    And people think he can't handle being President... yet a Junior Senator with no National or International experience was supposedly capable and competent enough to do the job. SMH...

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Trump is more patriotic than any Democrat. Please tell me how he isn't? America first, everyone else second.

    Follow the laws, especially immigration.

    Security before special interest.

    TAXES ARE NOT CONNECTED TO PATRIOTISM

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    Yes Dear 20 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Well, Trump certainly doesn't. He makes his money off people here, has lawyers let him keep it all. He's unpatriotic. Sanders we don't know, he won't release his taxes either. Only one who has is Hillary, the one you men don't trust. Irony, that.

    This is about more than America. It's cosmic. Get w the program. Male-violence (malevolence) is ovah.

    The feminine is blossoming again.

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    When are you going to get past the fact that physical characteristics are irrelevant - being a woman makes her no more qualified than if she were a Martian or a rubber tree plant. Who decided we need to feminize America even more than its already been ? What rights will Trump take away? The right to NOT come into America illegally? The RIGHT not to trample on someone else's rights with made up things like gender bending? the RIGHT not to have people give away our sovereignty to line their pockets (Hillary and Billary are so adept at this one.)?

    No, I think we need a symbol of America leading the nation into the future, man, woman, black, white, whatever.....as long as they figuratively bleed red, white, and blue - first, last, and always !

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    Yes Dear 20 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Well youre wrong. She is very qualified, and smart. The fact shes a woman is a bonus. Symbols run the world, we need female symbol aligning us with new millenium. Voting for men who want to take rights away is sooooo declasse. And Sanders thinks hes better. No thanks. Hillary for 2016.

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    Ken Burgess 20 months ago from Florida

    The Presidency seems, to too many voters, about anything and everything other than who is most qualified and capable to run the nation.

    I hate to tell you how many times I've heard 'It's a woman's turn now' this election, the last two elections, its not supposed to be about, we need to vote in the first black man, the first woman, then the first Hispanic...

    But I get the feeling its not about much more than that for way too many voters who are supporting Hillary.

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    Mr. Happy 20 months ago from Toronto, Canada

    " I didn't think I was blaming a generation for anything other than being lazy and freeloading, which is not a generalization but an observation" - When You paint an entire generation as lazy, that is a generalization - no way around it, period. Maybe You need to learn what a "generalization" means.

    "I didn't write this piece to solve any problems" - So, You just like to complain, makes You feel good I guess.

    Then, You insult Oscar Wilde ... goodness gracious. You shame yourself doing that. The man was a genius and not because I said it, do some research and You'll see that his plays are played all over the world, his books are read all over the world (in a multitude of languages) and not many people care what his sexual preferences were. He was a writer, not a porn star.

    Regarding Mr. Ahorseback's comment, You can see from what he says that he didn't even pay attention to what I wrote.

    Mr. Ahorseback, I gave examples of how I at one point in the past I played the blame-game too then, I grew-up unlike other people. I wrote: " I once was part of the generational blaming game too" and continued later saying that this is "a simplistic attitude". So, no I am not playing the blaming game because it is just plain stupid. (I gave examples of how one can play the stupid blame game, which gets nobody nowhere.)

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Ha ha ha ha - I knew you couldn't comment without bashing Trump. Why can't your girl Hillary vanquish Bernie? I thought she was the guaranteed nominee?

    I can tell you this - Bernie Sanders has stuck to the same, albeit jaded, platform for his entire political career - Clinton has changed many times.

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    Yes Dear 20 months ago from Cape Cod, USA

    Erm....the problem I have with Slanders is the fact that he just became a democrat. He's using her party to win votes for an independent, which is what he is. So, he gets indie voters and dem voters. And Trump voters vote for him to mess w Clinton. Yes, hes a lot like Trumplestiltskin: thin skinned, macho, quick temper.

    Really makes me mad, because he gets the accolades without the work that goes into it.

    Democrats are not socialists. Clinton says affordable college, not free.

    Clintons wall street reform smarter than his.

    He's a one trick pony. And a con man, like Trump.

    Imo

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    ahorseback 20 months ago

    And to be fair both ideological parties are in trouble, yet as we can see which the most people are gravitating towards and who has the most to offer. I have some precious Canadian friends who also are focused more on America than Canadian party politics . You know what though , when the rest of the world critiques American party politics- something is moving in the right direction .

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Funny how someone can make a statement attacking American values from abroad. I'm sure that in Canada everything is wine and roses, so much to the degree that its citizens have nothing better to do than to jump into discussions which do not concern them. I didn't think I was blaming a generation for anything other than being lazy and freeloading, which is not a generalization but an observation (being the father of two of them, I have the first hand knowledge.) I think Mr. Happy spends too much time engrossed in the life of the flamboyant homosexual Oscar Wilde and his fascination with young underage "rent boys" (didn't he actually spend time in prison for sodomy? )

    I didn't write this piece to solve any problems, just to expose the hypocrisy of the press on calling out a fake Republican Civil War when the actual Civil War is brewing in the Democrat Party.

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    ahorseback 20 months ago

    RJ. sorry for butting in here , Mr Happy says "The baby boomers let it all go down the drain ..." well you are at least partially right . I have lived my life so I agree wholeheartedly with that and that is where it began . Because every one since the baby boomers , each successive generation has become worse in owning personal accountability . In learning it , in practicing it and in utilizing it for the gains of wisdom to know the differences AND no ivy league school in the world can teach self- informed wisdom ! "we inherited it .....". Sounds like Mr.Happy is the one suffering from generational blaming , right from the start of his, her comment .

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    Mr. Happy 20 months ago from Toronto, Canada

    "American values are circling the drain and the youth are sitting on the couch playing video games with one hand and the other is stretched out waiting for freebees" - I once was part of the generational blaming game too. My attitude was: the baby-boomers let it all go down the drain, now we're left with scraps, crappy jobs/no jobs and debt because it's certainly not the young people that brought all this worldly debt on (we simply have not been around long enough). Nor did we contribute much to the pollution of the world - we inherited it.

    Yet, this is a simplistic attitude (not to use harsher words) and as Oscar Wilde once wrote: "The truth is rarely pure and never simple."

    Now, let's generalize more about what young people (or elderly people) are doing because that's how we solve problems in Life.

    Cheers!

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Isn't is amazing at how low things have sunk? American values are circling the drain and the youth are sitting on the couch playing video games with one hand and the other is stretched out waiting for freebees - thanks for being part of the conversation

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    ahorseback 20 months ago

    I believe you have pretty well stated the political climate in America ! Right now , the two viable candidates , excepting Sanders , are from a representation of mushy middle America . The battle now is for Clinton to easily lie her way into the hearts and minds of leftist democrats . Many people would have us all believe Trump is a conservative . Wrongly so , He is a midlist , it's just one of those years that real voters have to hold their noses to enter the voting booth ! Great summation of the present climate!

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    Ralph Schwartz 20 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Sounds like there are a lot of opinions on this topic - hopefully everyone can see that it was my intention to put a lot out there and get feedback, which has started. I'm a Trump man myself as America First means a lot to me.

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    Mr. Happy 20 months ago from Toronto, Canada

    "it's about Progressivism versus socialism" - No, it is not. Hillary Clinton is not a "progressive" but do not take my word for it, listen to her say how she's "accused of being a moderate" and she says: "I plead guilty": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTL767hKxHo

    She changes colours like a chameleon. No wonder people don't trust her. She's the definition of a conniving and misguiding politician.

    "As Clinton struggles to become more Progressive than Sanders" - That is laughable because as we just established, she is not progressive. She's in bed with banksters, corporations, Saudi shifty-characters, etc. Nothing progressive about that, it's the status-quo. Obama promised change and very little change came. Many people are not happy with that and certainly not happy with more lies from another Clinton.

    To make a parenthesis here, I must say that this Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton thing is pretty vile in itself. Dynasties have no place in a true democracy but as we all know, there is very little democracy left in the United States.

    "His tenacity and vocal message isn't going away anytime, his growing support base and their disdain for business-as-usual politics is standing tall" - Indeed this is true. One has to put things into prospective: Mr. Bernie comes after the Occupy Movement. We (I am an Occupier who camped-out in the financial district for nearly a month a handful of years back) started the talk about the 1% with the slogan: "We are the 99%" and now the talk about the 1% is everywhere.

    No, this is not stopping anywhere - it's just growing and business as usual will not go on much longer. It can't - people are not putting-up with lying politicians backed by special interests.

    Thanks for the article - I appreciate the conversation.

    All the best!

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    Don Bobbitt 20 months ago from Ruskin Florida

    R.J. - Pardon my language, but BULLSHIT!

    Bernie has figured out how to impress and represent our coddled Millennials who are young enough to think they are immortal and will live forever, and even if they make a mistake such as voting the wrong person into office can be fixed, eventually. For them, like all untried and tested idealists, it's give everything to everybody and damn who has to pay the bill.

    Clinton is an "old-school Democrat who is and is followed by other old-school Democrats who all believe in promising anything to anybody to get elected. Then, after getting elected, just spend whatever is necessary and let the public pick up the bill later, while they go on their speaking tours and writing their books.

    Trump? Well, he knows how to blow smoke up a person's Ass as good as any investment counselor and if he gets elected, he will morph into whatever level of true conservative he really is.

    DON

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    CJ Kelly 20 months ago from Auburn, WA

    The longer Sanders stays in, the better it is for Trump. There's no doubt about that. I'd bet she is really angry about it too. I'm sure the Dems expected a coronation.

    Bernie is an honest guy who truly believes what he says and I think he represents the base of the Democratic Party. Democrats are, by nature, socialists. Their leaders (those elected) just aren't honest about it. They believe what Bernie believes, but hesitate to say it in order to get moderate votes. HRC's core beliefs are the same, but she needs $$ and has shelved them in her thirst for power. In that way, she is no different from any other politician.

    That said, I would never vote for either one of them. But I like honest people, and Sanders is the real deal. Feel the Bern, at least until July.