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Did you think you were voting for Obama in 2012?

Updated on November 13, 2016

A Hart e-Voting machine

Is this the machine that switched the votes
Is this the machine that switched the votes | Source

Did you vote on the e-voting machines?

If you were voting on the e-voting machines manufactured by Hart-Intercivic, with H.I.G. Capital Group as a major investor, and partly owned by Mitt Romney, Tagg Romney (son of Mitt), Ann Romney and G. Scott Romney, a brother of Mitt. (Business Insider)

There's a big story circulating on liberal blogs and news sites right now.

http://www.businessinsider.com/romney-investment-in-voting-machines-2012-10

"The gist of the story is this:

The Romney family has invested in the third-largest voting machine manufacturer in the United States, a company that makes the e-voting machines used in crucial swing states like Ohio and Colorado.

The story is based on an article reported by Gerry Bello, Bob Fitrakis, and Harvey Wasserman of The Free Press, that was published on October 18th."

Does this sound familiar? Wonder where they got the idea?

Did Mitt Romney learn from GWB, in 2004 with his Debolt voting machines, rigged to favor "W"?

Ever heard the old cliché "If it walks like a duck?"

Who is willing to search for the truth when you would rather believe the lies?

— Shyron Shenko 11/13/16

Did it matter to you that Romney would have to cheat to win?

According to 'Truth Out:' Votes are crucial this year, more than ever, this year, especially in Ohio, without which no Republican candidate has ever won the White House.

In 2004, in the dead of election night, an electronic swing of more than 300,000 votes switched Ohio from the John Kerry column to George W. Bush, giving him a second term. A virtual statistical impossibility, the 6-plus% shift occurred between 12:20 and 2am election night as votes were being tallied by a GOP-controlled information technology firm on servers in a basement in Chattanooga, Tennessee. In defiance of a federal injunction, 56 of Ohio's 88 counties destroyed all election records, making a recount impossible.

Ohio's governor and secretary of state in 2004 were both Republicans, as are the governors and secretaries of state in nine key swing states this year. (Truth Out)

Coincidence? Or did the Romney family purchase the e-voting machine company as insurance. Is this why Mr. Romney is so sure he will win Ohio?


Corruption: Bain-controlled company owns the 2012 voting machines!

Today, I came across one of Doe Royal, my Editor's columns

Never have these words rang truer, even though they were written by a Republican!

Have we been too busy', too tired', too unconcerned to stand up for those inalienable rights which were secured for us so long ago at such great cost? Shame on us we must take part in the government of this country if we expect to preserve those wonderful gifts which we have for so long taken for granted.

— Doe Royal, Editor of The FlowerPlex PipeLine Newspaper

Ask for a paper ballot!

According to Business Insider:

Tagg Romney and Spencer Zwich (Mr. Romney's campaign finance director started a private-equity firm called Solamere According to Business Insider.

HOW DOES SOLAMERE OPERATE?

" Solamere is a so-called "fund of funds," which means that it does not invest in companies directly. Instead, funds-of-funds invest in funds invested by "partners," which are other private-equity firms. These other firms them make investments in companies.

$10 million of "seed Capital" was provided by Mitt Romney to Solamere, and other investors include Romney's brother G. Scott Romney. (The Free Press)

Employees of Solamere include: (The Free Press)

And, Mr. Romney's connections:

· Spencer Zwick, campaign finance director.

· Richard Morley, finance director

· Kaitlin O'Reilly, western regional finance coordinator

· Marc J. Leder, who hosted the PRIVATE $50 thousand dollar a plate fund raising event, where the infamous secret video-tape where 47% remark was made by Mr. Romney. Mr. Leder runs Sun Capital, one of Solamere's "partners" (private-equity firms whose funds it invests in)

· H.I.G. Private Equity firm directors include three close associates of the Romneys. John P. Bolduk, and Douglas Berman Hold major fundraisers for Mr. Romney. And, Brian Shortsleeve, H.I.G.'s manager. Former employees of Bain Capital. (The Free Press)

· H.I.G., Solamere's "Partner," in 2011 invested in the third-largest manufacturer voting machines in the country. The company Hart Intercivic, manufacturer of the machines that will be used in counties for the following states Ohio, Washington, Texas, and Oklahoma.

Smell anything yet?

If your state has it, ask for a paper ballot, the chance are it will get counted for the person you voted for!

And for the sake of OUR COUNTRY, Go Vote!!!!

“A constitution of government, once changed from freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever” ~ John Adams

© 2012 Shyron E Shenko

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      Shyron E Shenko 10 months ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you so much for the comment, forgive the delay in answering it. As you probably know by now we have a new puppy and he is a hand full, into everything he nose can reach.

      Back to the disaster of a president that now resides in the WH who is choosing his cabinet according to what they want to destroy, e.g. Betsy De Vos wants to destroy public schools so put he in charge of education so that only rich kids get an education...etc, etc, but how do we get things back to benefit all children and not just the rich. I wonder if Dubya is jealous, because when he was in office he sad if America has a dictator it is going to be him.

      I hope all is well with you and you are staying warm and dry.

      Blessings always my dear friend.

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      C E Clark 10 months ago from North Texas

      Read today where somebody said voter fraud is actually less likely in those states that are dependably red or blue because most voters in those states vote a particular way and if suddenly it goes the other way in a big way it kind of tips authorities off that somethings not right.

      What a hot mess we have with our new corrupt government now! And the edicts just keep coming with no end in sight. Trumpy seems to think he's a dictator or a king. The immigration edict certainly wasn't enacted very gracefully and as a result U.S. citizens were detained for hours. A little 5-year old girl was separated from her mother for hours. People were in the air on their way here after 2 years of vetting and were greeted on arrival with -- NOT WELCOME IN MY COUNTRY. At least 3 people were sent back to Syria and probably to their death after enduring 2 years of rigorous vetting.

      Trump said during one of the debates that his small hands were no indication of any "problems down there," but he sure does have problems with everything else. In fact his brain doesn't seem to work right at all, but I shouldn't pick on the poor man because he is mentally ill through no fault of his own.

      Hope they have the nuclear codes somewhere else for safe keeping because it is my experience that people with certain mental disorders are unpredictable and tend to snap at the blink of an eye over nothing. You never know. If Angela Merkel, who tried to explain the Geneva Convention to Trump, ticks him off for some silly reason he may decide to send some nuclear warheads her way.

      The conspiracy nuts were all saying Obama would be our last president and that he would declare martial law and remain in office. The one time when their being right would have been better it just goes the same old way. They were wrong again. That won't deter them from picking another date for Obama to do something out of character of course.

      All these people who whined and complained for over 8 years about Obama being black and now we have a REAL problem in the WH.

      When I say the man is unstable and mentally ill, I'm not saying it to be snotty. I'm a psych major and I've been around several people for long periods of time with mental disorders. Trump needs a workup. A lot of psychiatrists have come forward to recommended the same.

      Oh, to have a president again, who is dignified and sensible. A president with compassion and intelligence. A person who sleeps at night rather than tweeting about ignorant things. A president not so full of himself he only has time to worry about what people think of him instead of the serious problems he was hired to manage and if possible resolve. A shame the conspiracists were wrong because I think the problem they forecast would have been more easily and safely resolved.

      As for now, we have a hot mess in the WH, and it's leaking out of there like lava from a volcano. A steady stream with no end in sight. How long will the Republicans let this go on? Probably until we're all speaking either Russian or Chinese . . .

      Hope you're enjoying this pretty day. With so much unrest here and around the world, you never know where Trump will aim the warheads. All depends on who seems to appreciate him and agree with him the most.

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      Shyron E Shenko 13 months ago from Texas

      Linda, thank you so much for the comment, I truly appreciate you. I am glad you voted by absentee ballad. If the apathetic voters who have no interest in voting would do the same thing, maybe things would be a lot better. You are welcome, I am glad you voted that way. */;-)

      Blessings and Hugs dear friend.

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      Linda Bilyeu 13 months ago from Orlando, FL

      In the past 3 elections I voted via absentee ballot. Comfort of my home where I could research before I mark my ballot. My entire family votes via absentee, it's becoming the new normal. Slowly, but surely. Thanks for making me aware that my choice was the better one! :)

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      Shyron E Shenko 13 months ago from Texas

      “A constitution of government, once changed from freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever” ~ John Adams

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      Shyron E Shenko 2 years ago from Texas

      Au fait, thank you for the comments and for sharing.

      We were in the house during the day, but had a TC (Town Council) meeting last night. Yes it was cold outside.

      I hope you managed to stay warm.

      Blessings and Hugs to you also.

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      C E Clark 2 years ago from North Texas

      Actually did vote for Obama way back the first time, but here in Texas there is little chance for a Democrat to win any election. Republicans often win their state offices by a huge margin of 85-95%. Yes, I read it in the reports after that election where BO won the first time. I couldn't believe it, but those were the precinct reports.

      Sharing.

      Lord it was cold las' night and kept getting colder, temp continuing to drop until almost 11 AM when it finally turned around and started heading up. Didn't get very far up though. Tonight is going to be awful too and I'm dreading it.

      Hope you and John will be in the house staying warm, and that you've been there all day. Blessings to you both . . .

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      Glenda Jacks 4 years ago

      Your article said it just the way it is.

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      Ms. Mudd, I deleted one of your comments because you put a phone number in your comment.

      The phone number 800 633 4227. Obviously you did not call the number, which is to Medicare.

      You said "I work in the business." But, you did not say what business....so I can conclude you mean the insurance business that is the only thing that would make any sense. You want Obama Care cut, so private insurance would have free reins to charge anything they want, omit anyone for any reason or no reason...private insurance only want healthy people!!

      Yes Medicare is cutting Medicare Advantage. Do you Ms. Mudd know how it works? Did you not say that you are in the business? Do you ASSume that because Medicare Advantage, is being cut, that does not mean medical services for Medicare recipients are also being cut. Do you really believe that? Or is this what you want everyone to believe?

      Again I ask you, do you know how it works? Medicare Advantage, a middleman for Medicare is being cut.

      Example: You have Medicare Advantage and go to the doctor. The doctor bills Medicare Advantage who forwards the bill on to Medicare. Medicare sends a check to Medicare Advantage, who forwards a check to your doctor, minus a FEE!

      Medicare Advantage is cut! You go to the doctor, who bills Medicare. Medicare cuts a check to your doctor, without a fee for the middle man. For this reason, it is evident that you are the one who does not know of what you speak.

      As opposed to you, the Huffington Post has credibility!

      And, as to being the last post on my hub(s), thank you, I can't say that I will miss you.

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      Thank you for responding to my response Anton, I appreciate it.

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      AntonOfTheNorth 5 years ago

      Hi Shyron,

      I appear not to have been clear and I apologise.

      My concern was that I hear much more about perceived issues than about real ones. I actually share the concerns you have outlined in your response and were I voting (I'm not an American) I expect you and I would be voting the same way. Medicare has been a reality in Canada for a few generations. And I agree that regardless of what one thinks politically, those who risk their lives for their country deserve nothing but respect and support from that country.

      What I try not to do is listen to the birth certificate arguments and the sometimes tenuous lines to unethical behaviour that are drawn by supporters of either side to discredit the other.

      You had very compelling things to say about the issues in your reponse to my comment. I learned some things from those. Those responses I value. I'm not sure what we can do about the long chain of possession between the voting machines and Romney. I think that would scare me less than the loss of medicare. And much less than the 47% comment.

      I do thank you for responding.

      cheers

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      Gone 5 years ago

      Darlin' all I can say is that I don't wish what will happen with Obama care on anyone...I'm not talking about STAYS in the hospital as knowledge...I'm talking about DEALING with the REAL rules from an administrative viewpoint...This is my last post on your site and no ill will....You do not know...And by the way? I wouldn't wipe my feet on the Huffington Post...or pretty much anything you have mentioned...no wonder there is so much misinformation out there. When these new rules affect you, good luck to you.

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Au fait, always appreciate you comments.

      JSChams, why not? Truth is Truth no matter who sayes it. Most of my information came from Truth Out, and Business Insider. And their information is close to being the same.

      Ladymudd, Yes, I am voting for seniors/myself, my husband and my brothers. I am ten years older than you, I have been in the hospital and My husband was in the hospital, more than once. No Problems, except the hospital claimed that he was in there for observation, and they could not explain why he needed transfusions after his surgery.

      I do know about hospitals stating that hospital stays are for obversation, for which medicare will not pay, and they can bill the patient direct,

      I don't know any commercials/blogs.

      Is the Washington Post a blog or a commercial?

      Is the Huffington Post a blog or a commercial?

      Is Truth Out a blog or a commercial?

      Is Atlantic Wire a blog or a commercial?

      Is the Business Insider a blog or a commercial?

      Is the Election Defense Alliance a blog or a commercial?

      For the time being, says Jonathan Simon, director of the Election Defense Alliance, "Take the Hart machines out of service; there is a clear conflict of interest." He also suggests "hand counting those jurisdictions, at the very least the federal races. Then--by extension since none of the electronic equipment...allows the observable vote counting essential to a legitimate election--hand count all jurisdictions. It's not that hard."

      Is Global Research a blog or a commercial? - About that voting machine company tied to Mitt Romney and Bain Capital.

      Is the Free Press a blog or a commercial?

      Is the National Review Online a blog or a commercial?

      KyPost a blog or a commercial?

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      Jimbo'daNimbo 5 years ago from The Island of Misfit Toys

      You are the first person I have ever seen here respond to a Snopes debunking with the Daily Kos.

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      C E Clark 5 years ago from North Texas

      Interesting hub. There is just no end to the corruption in our government it seems. I think voting machines in Texas are safe though, because nearly 70% of all voters here vote Republican with the minimum amount of coercion. No need for Romney to cheat here.

      Frankly, I'm nor sure any of our votes count. I think whoever is really in charge (not our government or any other country's gov.) decides who the president will be and all the campaign hullabaloo is just smoke and mirrors to convince us we really have a say.

      Voted up, interesting, useful, and awesome!

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      Thank you LadyMudd, I do value your opinion no matter how much we may disagree. I have not heard anything bad about Obama Care, if you could be specific. It has only helped me. Yes Obama Cares about the 47% plus the rest, and Romney stated in a setting where what he says would be truly how he feels. He said "I don't Care about the 47%."

      I do thank you for reading my hub, and for your comments.

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Anton for commenting on my hub, but I don't see the relevance.

      Today I did vote on the issues, I voted on a Hart Intercivic voting machine, because there were no paper ballots. I just pray that my vote counts. I am voting for seniors - whose income is mostly Social Security if not all (which is my income) without Medicare, most seniors would be homeless (which includs me, Read my hub "Count Down to a Miracle" without Medicare, how much do you think my husband's surgery would have cost? I can tell you how much my hip replacement cost, the hospital bill is 69,333. )

      Today I voted for the only Man who cares about our Military - who will need jobs, and health care when they come home. (our Military is part of the 47%, Mitt Romney does not care about) - Yes Anton today I voted on the issues.

      I am praying that my vote is not switched to the man who does not care about all of us, he only cares about the rich.

      On the abortion issue! This should never have become an issue. Until a man is raped, pregnant, or carries a baby to term, HE should not have a say as to what a woman does or does not do, regardless of his religious beliefs or lack thereof.

      Romney plans to shut down Planned Parenthood. Do you know what they do for women, Anton??? They do cancer screening and treatments of all kinds, breast, cervical...etc.

      Just get off the birther kick and go vote for who you think is the fit candidate. "I DID!"

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      Gone 5 years ago

      Shyron...I understand...but the problem with bloggers is they usually jump the gun and don't really do any more research than it takes to "prove" their point. I know you and I will never agree on politics, my focus and your focus are most likely never going to be the same...I can see you are passionate about your point of view, as I am. I work in the medical field and deal with Older folks and have to deal with the new "Obama care rules". It is really really really sad that most people don't actually know the rules from a practical real life work a day situation. It has most of my friends who are in their 50's and 60's who do know from implementing the rules, absolutely terrified. I know how it sounds to those of you who don't have to deal with it...but we know why we're scared...we're screwed.

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Lady Mudd for posting a Comment, I went to the link you provided, I had gone to Snopes.com previous to writing my hub and, did not find anything. I don't know at what date the info in that link was printed.

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/16/1145225/-...

      It is Not Voters Who Decide Elections.....by Dennis Kaiser on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 6:19:55 AM

      Give a receipt at the pollsby Toby Seiler on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:43:44 AM

      Yes,by Mark Adams JD/MBA on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:43:57 AM

      Receipt Good, butby Dennis Kaiser on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:37:47 PM

      I disagree.by Mark Adams JD/MBA on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:58:38 PM

      Vote counting company tied to Romneyby Rixar13 on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:09:38 AM

      Tweet: Vote counting company tied to Romney: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Vote-counting-com... Rixar13 on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:10:21 AM

      Congress as Mewling Sphincter Boysby Howard Lewis on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:14:49 PM

      Romney and his 'connection' to Electronic Voting Machinesby Evelyn allyn on Sunday, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:43:42 AM

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      AntonOfTheNorth 5 years ago

      hmmm. Sounds like another version of the birth certificate issue.

      Both sides need to focus on why they are voting

      For America's sake, I hope you vote on the issues, not on the hysteria.

      If the most powerful democracy in world struggles with simple things like counting or birth certificates, what hope is there for the so-called emerging democracies?

      cheers

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      Thank you Mom Kat, you are right. I hope that he does not cheat, but it seems like he will do anything to get in office.

      I don't know what happened to the Republican party, they did not seem to be this hateful. I said this to my husband and he told me about the Republicans who attacked his father for voting democratic.

      All I know is we will lose everything if they get into office. And once it is broken we can't ever get it fixed.

      It seems Republicans want to take away everything Democrats got for the poor people of this country.

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      Mom Kat 5 years ago from USA

      I always get a paper ballot. We live in a hick town so we don't get those new fandangled doo-hickies :)

      Great hub - very important issues here. There is no way a President Elect should ever cheat in this way to win. I would hope the country would demand a recount or something and press criminal charges against him if it turns out to be true.

      If you'll lie & cheat to get into office, you'll lie & cheat while you're IN office ~ no thanks, that's not what this country is supposed to be about.

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      I found what may be the story you are talking about, but it does not name anyone who did hack the machines and the Diebold voting machines are not the ones being used in the 2012 election, they are Hart Intercivic, run by Tagg Romney, in the swing states.

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/8th-grade-educatio...

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      Shyron E Shenko 5 years ago from Texas

      JSChams, No I did not hear that. Seems to me if that were true, we would hear about it. It is only when it is the other way around that the Republicans want to keep it quiet!

      I heard about the voting machines from Truth Out first then, The Free Press then, the Business Insider and the New York Times. But, it does seem to me, if machines that are owned by the Romney family they would not rig them to vote for the President.

      Thank you JS for reading my hub and for you comment, I will check it out right now.

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      Jimbo'daNimbo 5 years ago from The Island of Misfit Toys

      Did you hear the story out of NC where folks voting for Romney found out it was casting a ballot for Obama instead?

      Did those Romney folks screw up?