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Hate, Intolerance and Abuse on the Internet

Updated on July 3, 2011

AD HOMINEM ARGUMENTS: MEANING: Attacks and arguments which are designed to discredit the person rather than countering the logic or reason of the person's position. This is a common form of verbal abuse. We see this all the time on the Internet. For example, Person A in a newsgroup writes "Health care insurance has become increasingly expensive, its costs rising much faster than the rate of inflation." And Writer B responds, "You would say that since you are a hippie and don't want to take responsibility for paying your own bills." There could be good arguments against what Person A said such as health care is better, more procedures are being covered than were covered before etc. BUT Writer B decided to attack the character of person A instead. This attack was not an argument; it was a ploy to discredit Person A so that Person A's argument would be rejected.  When writer B uses such an argument, Writer B has lost by default because Writer B did not play by the rules of reasonable discourse.

“I got one thing to say to you, you (a) &*#!, leftist, liberal, communist, Mao-loving, brain-dead bitch or (b) right-wing, fascist, mouth-breathing #**&! You deserve to be (1) hung from a tree, (2) raped till you’re lifeless, (3) shot, (4) deported, (5) afflicted with some dreaded but deserved disease because it’s people like you that make (i) the world, (ii) this great country of ours, (iii) life in general the mess it is. You will (a) burn in hell for all eternity, (b) die a gruesome, long-suffering death, (c) get your just deserts at the hands of righteous people like me. You are a #%* spawn of a #%&*ing whore, you…..

I’ll bet all of you who are active in any number of internet sites where people gather to share views and opinions have had this kind of response at one time or another. Flamers, trolls and psychotics abound out there in the anonymity of the virtual world.

Such ad hominem arguments are the tools of the intellectually deprived and emotionally immature and should not be treated as worthy of a reasonable response.

Here are some prime examples from those whose ire was so aroused they tracked me down to my general (not my personal) email address, hardly an act of cunning as my presence is all over the net. Go ahead, Google me. I’m not hard to find.

The following emails originated from a guest blog I did for an acquaintance, writing about the true cost of the existing health care arrangement in the US. (A similar, not duplicate article is here on Hubpages if you want to know the gist of what I said: The Many Ways Americans Already Pay for Universal Health Care But Don’t Have It. ) However, in this blog I also denounced so-called Obamacare for not addressing these issues, particularly the disadvantages of making employers responsible for their employees health insurance.

As often happens when dealing with these mentally deficient, hate-filled types, the salient points of my argument sailed over their heads. Their comments were so vitriolic, defamatory, obscene and virulent they were removed from the site – not by me; by the moderator.

To: Lynda M Martin, aka: lmmartin, lynmarmartin, LyndaM, lyndamartin, LMartin

From: TrueBornSon
Subject: You denied me free speech on your forum, cause you know what i say is true
You bitch, you truly know old people are gonna die under the health bill.
this is where rule under the gun comes against you.
Trust me I know my life is worth more than yours.
Take that to the banks.
Tea Party folks know the dame thing, and I'm one of them. You f-----g bitch want me dead, you'll setp in front and take the shot before I will ever will.
Better to lose you communists rather than me.
Ban me from your forum, who cares, the truth gets out, and you mother------g c--t lose.
Try to take me out, the gun rules. and I speak for 5 million plus people who hate you mother------s.
We patriots respect the Constitution and Bill of Rights, which we will enforce.
So you commie f-----s step out of the way to your peril.

Wow! You mean you respect and will enforce the Constitution and Bill of Rights which guarantees me free speech?

From: No.99
Subject: Haven't you learned, yet, that...

censorship is an act of cowardice?

And when that act of censorship is performed in the dark, it's an act of cowardice coupled with a fear of exposure to that act.

And people wonder why the Republican Party can be so adept at fascist cowardly acts.

Some of their supporters are adept at it as well.

Nothing will change. Until acts of cowardice become acts of courage.

Good luck learning that lesson for yourself, as a censor for the GOP.

The trail of puke you leave across the net led me to your email. This is just the beginning you nazi whore.


Have you noticed I’ve gone from a commie to a Republican? For the record, I’m neither. I don’t have political alliances – none of the existing ideologies appeal to me. They’re all kind of an itchy fit. I’m an unaligned, independent observer who tries to judge all issues to the best of my common sense.

On another guest appearance on a different blog, where I wrote about the financial difficulties of not just the United States, but most of the world – burgeoning national debt is an international phenomenon, after all. You can read my global view on Hey Big Spender -- A Look at World Debt.  In this case, I suggested that in the United States, while a reduction in spending is definitely required (along with a review of priorities,) the only solution is frugality coupled with an increase in revenue (ie taxes,) that an overhaul of the existing tax system to ensure equitable taxation across the board (ie the removal of loop-holes, exemptions and other tax dodges along with proper compliance enforcement,) painful as it may be; it is the only way out. The comments on this site were unmoderated. Here are two of my favorites.

"f_ k you demo bitch. I would like to hang you from the highest tree and watch your heals kick in the air. it's a nice thougt." – verbatim from someone calling himself MileHigh

Now I’m a Democrat! And this illiterate wants to lynch me, but is too polite to spell out the F word.

"You're just an a--hole. Your opinion is just that, your opinion. But being an a--hole, that's not my opinion, it's a fact. You're an a--hole, a--hole." -- from Diehard

Oh, sorry. I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say here. But it’s a pleasant change being classified by that particular piece of my anatomy rather than the other one.

This exchange is from a discussion on the bias of so-called news programming. A great argument ensued over which was most biased: Fox for being blatantly right-wing, or MSNBC and CNN for leaning to the left. I left the following comment:

“Has it not occurred to anyone here that news containing opinion is not news? There was a time when journalism of any kind held to a code of ethics, the greatest of which was avoidance of bias, opinion or personal view of any kind. It was the facts, just the facts and only the facts. Of Fox, I agree there is a definite bias. Of CNN and MSNBC, perhaps you’re correct their coverage tends to the left of center; I cannot say. I’m still trying to find center – somewhere. My personal preference is for news which tells me what happened, when and where and leaves me to formulate my own opinions, which is why I like to watch the BBC world news. For one thing, it covers the world rather than hours of US political infighting, and for another it does not attempt to tell me what I should think about these events. In my opinion, America would be a much healthier country if the media in this country returned to old-fashioned, non-partisan news coverage. In other words, were professional. “ – LMartin

“To LMartin: I put forth the proposition that if America had more people like me and fewer like you and whoever raised you that this would be a much better country – and I have the evidence to back that up. What do you have? Just as I thought. The silence is deafening. You are un-American and don’t deserve to call yourself an American. Only in America do you have the freedom to say what you want so keep that in mind before criticizing. In other words, shut your pie hole.” – Patriot Father

“To Patriot Father: I do not call myself an American. By citizenship, I am Canadian; by birth British. By residency, I am a legal resident alien of the United States of America. And when I was accepted into this country, the Government of the United States sent me a lovely letter welcoming me. In this letter it outlined my rights and responsibilities as a U.S. resident, included in which was the right to speak my mind, a right, I might add, I’ve enjoyed in the many countries I’ve lived in, worked in and visited. Therefore, with the blessing of the authorities here, I will open my pie hole whenever and wherever I so choose.” -- LMartin

“To LMartin: Go back to the sinkhole you came from. We don’t need or want your kind here.” – Patriot Father

Gee – what kind would that be? People who think? I should add this last comment was accompanied by a link to an image of bondage pornography that would make Larry Flint vomit.

My point is: what does any of this have to do with the subject matter under discussion? (And wonderful, intelligent discussion they were until these flamers shut them down.) I’ll tell you, absolutely nothing.

Civil, responsible and courteous people have every right to express an opinion or simply chat without being run off by what amounts to faceless, cowardly bullies. It's time to take back the internet from sick and twisted minds that think themselves liberated and justified because they hide behind keyboards where they can attack others with impunity.

That is exactly what they are. Anonymity breeds contempt.

And if you, like me, experience cyber-stalking to the extent that someone ferrets out a way to contact you directly, what should you do? According to the best advice I could find, here are your best defenses:

  • The best policy is to ignore the person who is actively looking for a response. The anonymous nature of the internet ensures that there will always be individuals out there who just want attention and to rile you into a reaction. Best policy: don’t play their immature game.
  • Go to the administration of a host site, social networking site or message board with a very politely worded complaint. Do not include any name calling, extreme counter accusations, or a dirty laundry list of detailed injustices heaped upon you. They want to avoid trouble makers, so provide no reason for them to see you as one.
  • Delete or ban the person from your messages without reading them, in most cases.
  • If you do sense the situation is truly a threat, be vigilant, but not reactive. A dangerous quirk of anonymity also means that someone could mistake you for someone else.
  • Always be upfront and polite, even when others are not.

In Conclusion

Many of us join online communities looking to share ideas and participate in reasoned discourse, and find ourselves routinely insulted by those who disagree with us. Rudeness appears to be the rule.

Perhaps we need to rethink our approach. Would we say some of the things we say were we face to face with the recipient? Are we too quick to dish out sarcasm, denigration, humiliation, aggression or anger because we do not see our targets, or perhaps more importantly, they do not see or know us?

As a writer, I am well aware of the impact of words. We should remind ourselves of the power to hurt another words hold. Do we consider ourselves justified simply because they espouse a view contrary to our own? Are we that insecure we can't even hear a thought from the "other side?" (Let alone consider it for any merit.)

Life in the public forum seems to have become about winning. That's all: winning. What we are trying to win has long been forgotten, perhaps because we no longer exercise our minds by examining another point of view. In our fossilized state, we are incapable of reflection and evaluation. We close our ears and minds, open our mouths and let loose.  We are rude.

Though I must admit, rudeness is far too polite a word for the hate, intolerance and abuse – often politely worded, but abuse all the same – fast becoming the norm on what should have been mankind’s greatest tool for communication, education and sharing.

About Hubpages

No discourse on the subject of abuse on the internet would be complete without a word of thanks and appreciation to the Hubpages team who work very hard at keeping this site as safe, comfortable and abuse free as they can.

Does this mean there is no rudeness, hate and intolerance, no bigotry here? No, but it is kept to a reasonably civil level -- your basic passive aggressive hate.

But hey, join me in showing appreciation. Vote below and in one month, I'll pass the numbers on to the team.

Does the Hubpages Team do a good job of keeping our site safe, comfortable and abuse free?

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Next up on this train of thought? My favorite internet personality types.


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    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Hi Peg, Good to hear from you, as always and yes, I am dreadfully behind in my correspondence. Hope to get caught up real soon. It's true that the anonymity and the donning of an alterego seems to bring out the worst in people. I often wonder if these hyper-political types act the same way in real life as they do in their comments here. Do they announce their affiliations and views and hurl abuse at all those who don't hold the same at a dinner party or a reception, for example? I doubt it. Give someone an avatar and a username and a monster is born.

      Emu, eh? Okay. I just thought it was cute and expressed how I feel on receiving such comments. Thanks for dropping by and I'll be in touch ASAP. Lynda

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      Peg Cole 

      7 years ago from Northeast of Dallas, Texas

      Enlightening hub here, Lynda. It's truly amazing that people can't disagree without being disagreeable. Further fueled by their anonymity they can be as abusive as they choose to be on line. The comments you've received go beyond any boundaries of normal social interaction. I'm not too surprised, though, considering our TV heroes of the day and what passes for mentors. Sad really. You have a great way of dealing with this. I'm not so sure I could.

      PS That first picture looks more like an emu.

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Hi Timetraveller2: eloquent, really, wow! I'm impressed! I was eloquent; who'd have thought? Thanks. You made my day. Yeah, you're right; there are those with whom it is a waste of time to try and communicate. Write them off. They are beyond your consideration and leave them to the intellectual wasteland they deserve. Thanks for the comment. Lynda

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      Sondra Rochelle 

      7 years ago from USA

      This was a great hub. I wrote a similar one recently, but it wasn't nearly as eloquently put as this one. I found out about this abuse when I ventured into a few political discussions here on Hub Pages. Like you, I was called many weird names. Finally, I went back into my hub comments and deleted all of the comments from such people and also decided to stay out of political issues as much as possible. What I learned is that this type of person simply will not listen to reason and will attack anybody who disagrees with them. Worse yet, they work in groups so the person who made an "opposite" comment gets soundly thrashed. It's disgusting, but the only way to stop it is to do as I did.

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Thank you Spirit Whisperer, What a perfect response! I'll have to give it a try. Lynda

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      Xavier Nathan 

      7 years ago from Isle of Man

      You did a good job of bringing the face of hate to our attention. hate is always there and lives just below the surface of nearly everyone's life. There are those who do not have the resources to keep it in check and they express their self hatred by attacking those they project on to.

      I know this may sound strange but for you to attract such hateful comments means to me that you have the ability to play the role of the person that makes them feel most vulnerable.

      The perfect response to hate are the words used by Telly Savalas in the old TV programme called Kojack:

      "Who loves you, baby?"

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      How nice to hear from you, John. You have been MIA for far too long. Trust you to provide the appropriate literary quote! Thanks. Lynda

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      John Yeoman 

      7 years ago from Story writing land in the centre of England

      Great Hub, Lynda (Yes, I'm still alive :))

      No point in ranting at the Internet ranters, the kooks and the folk who are still growing up. We meet a few of 'em even at HubPages.

      All of human life is on the Net, alas. Plus the other kind. To misquote Sir Thomas Browne (writing at the young age of 33: 'Methinks that life is but a shadow show, peopled by pantaloons'. By the time he was in his fifties, and writing Urn Burial, he was convinced of it!

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      No problem, lanrob and welcome to Hubpages. Go ahead and write your hub. Everyone has a different take on the subject and there's room for everyone here. If you try to find a subject not covered by someone, you will have no subject left at all. Lynda

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      7 years ago from North Wales

      Lynda, when I referred to 'vileness' and Bin Laden, I was making the association with wild rantings and bigotry. It was badly put, but I take your point. I'm new to Hubpages and like your work. You prempted me wuth your hub on becoming published, although I may begin a similar hub. I've been trying for decades to become succeeed commercially as a writer, so I wish you well with your own work. Ian

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Thanks lanrob. I thought the US killed bin Laden because he was a murderer and on ongoing threat, not to get rid of verbal vileness. That has little to do with terrorists and more to do with ignorance of the basest sort. And all this is water off a duck to me. When this kind of reaction appears, I just say "What an idiot!" and move on. Thanks for commenting. Oh -- and fundamentalists are found in abundance everywhere. ;) Lynda

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      7 years ago from North Wales

      I was quite stunned to read the bile, bigotry and hate-filled comments directed at Lynda Martin. They struck me as being more reminiscent of the ill-informed rantings we see from third world fundamentalists. I wasn't sure whether to laugh or hunker down behind some sandbags. Didn't the USA get rid of Osama bin Laden, to eliminate such vileness? A job well done, Lynda - smile as you walk through the cannon smoke: it really pees them off.

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      Jeff Berndt 

      8 years ago from Southeast Michigan

      The emails and comments you shared were truly astonishing. I can't--well, I was going to say "I can't believe anyone would be so rude to someone who writes the way you do," but sadly, it's all too believable. I'm sure they'd never be so bold if they didn't have the anonymity of the internets to hide behind.

      Wow. Just, wow.

      For the record, I enjoy reading the stuff that comes out of your pie-hole. ;-)

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Thanks HattieMattieMae. You're right!

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      8 years ago from Europe

      ha ha love this hub so much had to read it again! :) From my position they can just go talk to the wall and themselves, because I don't have to listen to the abuse! lol

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Believe it or not, my dear Hello, many of them are proud of their words and actions. Thanks for commenting here. Lynda

      Hi again, Happy. We each have our way of dealing with them. Yours may work for you, but it would not for me. I have my standards... Lynda

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      Mr. Happy 

      8 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Mr./Mrs. Hello, such people lack the intelligence to realize much. Hence, in an above comment I talked about turning the table on them - that they understand, in my opinion, their own language. Cheers!

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      Hello, hello, 

      8 years ago from London, UK

      Don't these people realize that the moment they use this kind of language they show their intelligence and mannerism?

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Mr. Happy: Mr. Agimzeka is clearly struggling with the English language. Or perhaps he's using a flawed translation program. Either way, I don't think an altered state of consciousness is likely to be assistance. Though, if you do figure it out, let me know.

      Hi someonewhoknows -- You make a good point in that we may provoke someone unintentionally. Certainly, lynching is a good solution for that. (At least you're not likely to make the same mistake twice.) Thanks for commenting. Lynda

      Hi Barbara: But if we are all bullied away from discussing politics by these extremists, what happens to political discourse? This is exactly what flamers want: no free exchange of opinions. Think about the mentality that states you have no right to disagree with my opinion or to hold beliefs different to mine and if you do, I will hound you out of here. No -- we can't allow it to happen! Thanks for commenting.

      Hi Docmo: Thanks for sharing your view. Lynda

      Hi Nan: There's that word "should" again. Unfortunately, the world doesn't run on should's and should not's. Thanks for commenting. Your support is very much appreciated. Lynda

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      Nan Mynatt 

      8 years ago from Illinois

      Lynda, don't stoop to these people. They are sick, and should not be writing on the internet!

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      Mohan Kumar 

      8 years ago from UK

      Lynda, these disgusting and desperate comments illustrate the depravity of a diseased mind. You do rise above it and you have a done a good deed by sharing this here. I agree about the sanctity of hubpages, the net outside is a complete quagmire but a few 'sharp opinions' do creep in here too once in a while. Very well written and thanks for sharing.voted up!

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      Barbara Badder 

      8 years ago from USA

      I've noticed that people are growing touchier and much more aggressive about political issues than ever before. I've decided to not participate in political blogs even here at Hubpages anymore. There are a few that just get too insulting.

      I'm shocked by the emails etc you have gotten. There are some real crazies out there and others that just love an argument, but these examples are just taking it too far.

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      Mr. Happy 

      8 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      That's a very good comment Someonewhoknows (about the ignorant part). I shall have to remember that. Cheers!

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      8 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

      You never know who's reading what your writing.There just may be little children reading it.

      I've also wondered why people write the things they do.I Sometimes have to be careful how I craft my wording.I used the word Ignorant when I should have said Ignoring.I sometimes forget that the word Ignorant has an excessively negative connotation created by an overtly sensitive Individual who reads or hears it.I guess it's how you say it!Something I sometimes forget to do when writing.

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      Mr. Happy 

      8 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Mr. Agimzeka's comment made me think of Kafka for some reason ... maybe he woke-up as a cockroach, all of a sudden. Or, maybe I need to smoke some grass to decipher it ...

      I think I shall have to write something on bullies and bullying though - I think it is a solvable problem. For better or worse, I have written a few things already which are a result of your writing, Mrs. Lynda. Thank you for everything.

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Thanks Agim. Will do.

      Yes, Real Housewife, the net outside of the protected borders of Hubpages can be a quagmire, particularly if you like to exchange opinions or speak out on certain issues. One must develop a thick skin, and mine is elephantine. Thanks. Lynda

      Well, Jeff, you wouldn't be the first, but I'm glad you came to your senses. Saved me from having to write an extremely polite, courteous and elegant response. Thanks.

      Thanks to all for your support. Much appreciated. Lynda

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      Jeffrey Penn May 

      8 years ago from St. Louis

      I was going to cuss you out for being sensible, but then I came to my senses.

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      Kelly Umphenour 

      8 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      I'm just still shocked. I have never been on any Internet or social website except hub pages. I can not believe the words those people used! I mean it was hard for me to think about anything further - I had to read it twice. I am sorry for anyone who is treated that way for any reason. I don't care if it's politics or prayer - people shouldn't be reduced to treating a person that way. Wow - really eye opening. I'm glad to know this happens so I won't be so broken up or surprised if I see it again anywhere. I feel so naïve now!

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      8 years ago from Subotica A.P.Vojvodina Serbia

      Hello Linda send me friendly request on facebook because is my blocked,,, My username is AgimFriends Zeka --- Thank you---Agim-

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Hi jreuter, seems to me that politics has become religion for many people. I enjoyed reading about your internet adventures, too. Well done. Feel free to link it here. Thanks for commenting. Lynda

      The Reminder -- Hi. Yes, I have never been anywhere that takes their politics to the lengths I see here, something I'm tempted to write about at times. I am skeptical of ALL politics, politicians and parties. Experience has shown they're all cut from the same pattern. THanks for commenting.

      Hi Quilligrapher, nice to see you, as always. I think there are a lot of people who don't have enough to keep them occupied in life and so need to be joiners. Once they've joined they adopt the role required. (Because surely no one actually believes this stuff!) That's my take. Thanks for another eloquent and succinct comment. Lynda

      Hi agimzeka. I'm not sure I understand your message, but thanks for showing support. Lynda

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      8 years ago from Subotica A.P.Vojvodina Serbia

      ___\\\///'''my_gGgrRreEeeEetTtiIinNngGgsSs_Your''''''''''' -__________ _inUniteDwORLdUsAwORLdUniteDin_ _____________ -____________in III,3 mILLENNIUm 3,III in________________

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      8 years ago from New York

      I try, not always successfully, to avoid discussing religion, politics, or Black Jack. They are topics often fueled by more emotions than facts. Nor does the number of uninformed people surprise me because I know how hard it is for me to absorb the vast amount of information needed to get by today. But, the number of people who choose to be uninformed constantly amazes me. Especially when they attempt to hide their ignorance behind crude and abusive tirades masquerading as intellectual discourse. Thanks for your piece, Lynda. I doubt it will have any affect on the flame-throwers but I enjoyed it.Q.

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      The Reminder 

      8 years ago from Canada

      I never thought politics could separate a nation like that. Unfortunately, some of the comments you received are from those who can't share someone else's point of view. It's their point of view and only that one stands.(Yeah right!!)

      P.S. What attracted me to your hub is the austruch pic. Awesome! I just don't hope you're the one who took the pic! :)

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      Jason Reuter 

      8 years ago from Portland, Oregon

      Wow, and I thought the most vehement attacks were spawned in religious forums. Evidently, politics and economics are the way to go when I want a good thrashing. Ouch. Great hub, and funny thing, I just wrote one very similar to it. There's plenty of material out there on this subject!

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Hi Mr. Happy: Nice? Moi? The more PO'd I get the more formally courteous I become. Why? I have too much self-respect and dignity to stoop to such a low level. Besides, as they rage, swear and rant they look stupider and stupider, whereas remaining cool, calm and rational shows them up for the low-lives they are. Who wins? Thanks, Happy. Lynda

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      8 years ago from Europe

      ha ha i agree mr. happy! :)

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      Mr. Happy 

      8 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Wow ... I am speechless. It's always the nice people that end-up putting-up with such garbage - that bothers me. It's much easier to throw-in a personal insult than make a constructive and logical statement.

      I love to turn the table on people like that. I always had fun with the idea that, if you think you're loco, I'll show you loco lol ... maybe that radiates out of me because I don't have people insulting me, following me or any of that goofy, brainless stuff.

      Every-time I find a bully, I get happy - it's fun to burst their bubble, literally or physically. I'm impervious to pain so, I could care less about them but it does bother me when I see others hurt.

      Take it easy, Mrs. Lynda. Pay no attention to fools (unless it's King Lear's fool lol).

      P.S. Love the ostrich photo at the beginning!

    • lmmartin profile imageAUTHOR


      8 years ago from Alberta and Florida

      Hi HattieMattieMae -- yep, lots of people with nothing better to do than attack others, kind of like those rotten dogs that bit for no reason. Thanks.

      Hi Bobbirant -- I think that's part of it: they've never met you; you're not a real person, just a name and a target. Thanks so much.

      hi resspenser: What's a right left center? What's a democratic republican? Is it something like jumbo shrimp? Thanks.

      hi Liambean. We're not? I thought I was one of the last "not picked" as the rest of the country chose up teams. Thanks for the reassurance.

      Hi Christopher. Better make that uncivil discourse, I think. Thank you so much for the compliments, but I think there are many out there still using logic and rationale. You are probably one of them. Thanks for commenting.

      Hi Enlydia, So true. Unless you have a thick skin (and I do) it's a scary jungle out there. Thanks for commenting.

      Thanks to all for the support. Lynda

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      Enlydia Listener 

      8 years ago from trailer in the country

      My longest commitment to internet groups were in the SocialAnxiety forum and Hubpages. In both places I found such kind and gentle people...but when I briefly ventured out into other places on the internet, I read things like you just wrote on here...I was at first shocked and upset...but then crept back to my Safe Writing Places, not wanting to bother reading the words that come out of their filthy hearts.

      I often wonder who these people are...and wonder who they are working for.

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      Christopher Price 

      8 years ago from Vermont, USA

      What an articulate examination and denouncement of the distressing direction civil discourse has taken.

      Everything I have read that you have written has exhibited clarity of thought, rational analysis and logical conclusions. It is no wonder you are the scourge of the internet and the target of cyber-bullies!

      This was a wonderfully well written hub, and your advised methods of dealing with cyber-abuse will be handy for those who are targeted.


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      8 years ago from Los Angeles, Calilfornia

      One awesome and one "yes" for hubpages. You know, we are not the only two people in North America who do not think Republicans or Democrats are the right answer. But Washington was right in his farewell speech. Political parties are a bad idea.

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      Ronnie Sowell 

      8 years ago from South Carolina

      Great thought provoking hub.... for a democratical republican conservative libertarian with questionable morals and an obvious right left center thinking Canadian. LOL! Go get them!

    • BobbiRant profile image


      8 years ago from New York

      Isn't this the truth. So many people who just like to bully others because they have different views. Too many people get off on this kind of stuff and I have never understood hatred, especially when no one has ever met me or anything. Great hub on this subject.

    • HattieMattieMae profile image


      8 years ago from Europe

      Ha Ha yes I have to agree there some down right ugly people out there! lol They don't get it!


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