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Is President Trump Above the Law?

Updated on June 4, 2018

President loves himself. He seems to think he is King Trump and above laws that the U.S. Constitution prevents. President Trump has said that the special investigation about collusion with Russians, if any, is unconstitutional. He has said that even if the special counsel did find Trump guilty of obstruction or other, he will pardon himself, which indicates he thinks he is above the law, just as President Nixon once thought. We all know what happened to Nixon, he resigned before Congress could impeach him and remove him from office. Nixon led and directed the now infamous Watergate break-in of Democratic offices.

We all know that Trump is greatly irritated by the special investigation and is now trying to divert attention away what this investigation may eventually reveal about Trump's involvement. Whatever is revealed, Trump is the first president to openly lie about facts that have come out after Trump has made a denial any knowledge of. Too many examples are available, but telling a lie is not a crime. It is certainly bad public policy for the President of the United States.

Once the special investigation ends and its findings are known, the ball bounces to Congress to act or do nothing. Let's say, there is evidence that Trump did attempt to obstruct justice in some fashion, did talk with key Russian operatives to some degree, knew or directed his sons to talk to Russians or others about Democratic dirt on Clinton. King Trump would simply call it BS and call it a witch hunt. What would Congress do? Would impeachment proceedings begin and if so, would there be enough members on both sides to pass this proceeding?

Odds are, any impeachment would be divided down party lines, with some Republicans supporting the unanimous Democrats. Many Republicans would abstain or vote against impeachment because they are Republican. The impeachment proceeding would further divide America and probably would fail, further acerbating tension as Trump would claim vindication. Should the proceeding pass, Trump would pardon himself, or try to. This would also create more division within America because except for Trump's 40% base of followers, the remaining parts of America have a love-hate opinion of him, depending on specific issues. Some simply hate Trump for all reasons and just want him out of office by any means, while others are more in the middle.

If Trump's statement is true, that he can himself pardon himself for crimes or collusion, God save America! Our country started by those hating the King of England hundreds of years ago fleeing to a new land called America.

President Trump cannot be allowed to become a King of America.

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    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      3 years ago

      It seems even the Republicans have now had enough of his recent orders to separate kids from their parents at the border and elsewhere. All his supporters want to do is debate and challenge this man's character and behavior even when it goes against all norms. I am sure his wife does not agree to this being a mother.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      3 years ago

      PerryA

      What a cop out?

      You haven't answered a single comment.

      You are just ranting like Hillary?

      And like Hillary, all you can say is we hate Trump.

      And how does that help the country, and the people by resisting?

      They are put out of sight while you pander to the illegal aliens.

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      3 years ago

      the swamp extends far and deep, from democrats to republicans, from liberal to conservative and Trump is NOT exempt. He has his own swamp that he is in denial about. Pointless to argue about it.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      3 years ago

      PerryA

      Where are your comments on my comments.

      As far as your current comment.

      How bad is Trumps foundation when it takes in 18 million and spends 19 million?

      PerryA

      NY like CA is total democrat controlled, and if you want to see what a democrat controlled USA looks like, just look at CA.

      A $100 billion dollar high speed rail that has yet to had any tracks to run on that started out as $30 billion project.

      Where the population has doubled since the 1980s but the infrastructure hasn't done much at all. To the point that Gov Brown is imposing Draconian penalties on water. The Oroville Dam had some real problems last year, as It almost collapse.

      Water conservation doesn't work when the population doubles, and so much of the water is used for agriculture.

      Gov Brown would rather spend the infrastructure money on illegal aliens and sanctuaries.

      Ca has quite a formidable homeless problem. And the CA government raised the gas tax and the vehicle registration that has a significant impact on low income families that spend much of their money on gas to get to work.

      Then compare the Clinton foundation?

      What is your point about president Trump?

      What has he done to you or caused personally to have done to you?

    • perrya profile imageAUTHOR

      perrya 

      3 years ago

      well, well, well, looks like Trump does want to be a King of some sort by the recent comments, like, he would like Americans salute him the way he saluted the NK general. He fell right into their propaganda machine in search of a deal. But, now the NY attorney general has filed a lawsuit about questionable and unlawful business practices before he was president. Big surprise this is.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      3 years ago

      Paula my comment to you is the same as De Niro

      Who is personal attacking whom Paula

      There is nothing wrong with my comment to Kathleen.

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      Suzie 

      3 years ago from Carson City

      Brad.....Take it easy. Where have your manners gone? You've become a bully? No disrespect buddy, but there's absolutely nothing "emotional" about Kathleens comment. It's not even close to being a rant.

      Further, Brad, anyone on a thread is free to comment to anyone else, regardless of to whom a comment is addressed. Threads are community oriented, not private...and you know this damned well. And before you ask, NO, I'm not a spokesperson for anyone. Just another fellow-writer who knows when someone is being unfairly harassed.

      Your snap at Kathleen was unwarranted & unacceptable...just plain rude. I'm surprised you made a personal attack. You might want to rein that crap in.

      Who the HELL are you to tell her to "write an article??" You're out of line. I don't give a damn whether you get pissed at me...so knock yourself out. There comes a time when someone needs to speak up.

      Tsad has been unforgivably, downright & unjustifiably nasty to Kathleen (well, to just about ANY liberal, but especially to Bill & Kathleen.) These attacks don't go unnoticed by everyone who reads them. Hey, if you want to be known as a prick, go for it. Right or left, don't expect anyone to support your bullying. Enough. Go ahead, bitch at me. I laugh that crap off. I've dealt with bigger better jerks than you're trying to be!

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      3 years ago

      Kathleen

      There you go again with your non informational, very emotional tiny comment rants.

      And the comment was made to Perry A. Are you his spokesperson? If you are then, you don't seem to have anything to speak about.

      What was in the newspapers?

      Write an article, stop the drive by commenting.just a thought

    • Kathleen Cochran profile image

      Kathleen Cochran 

      3 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      If you have the time to write a comment as long as this one, you have the time to look it up yourself. It was in all the newspapers.

    • bradmasterOCcal profile image

      Brad 

      3 years ago

      PerryA

      President loves himself.

      B:

      Why do you say that?

      Tell me more

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      He seems to think he is King Trump

      B:

      Seems is your word and opinion isn't it?

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      and above laws that the U.S. Constitution prevents.

      B:

      What laws?

      What about the constitution?

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      President Trump has said that the special investigation about collusion with Russians, if any, is unconstitutional.

      B:

      Why do you think it is constitutional?

      What is the crime that this special investigation is investigating. It is not collusion because collusion is not a federal crime.

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      He has said that even if the special counsel did find Trump guilty of obstruction or other, he will pardon himself,

      B:

      That is not what he said, google it you won't believe me, if I tell you.

      Guilty of obstruction or other, is that what the investigation was started about? I don't think so.

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      which indicates he thinks he is above the law, just as President Nixon once thought. We all know what happened to Nixon, he resigned before Congress could impeach him and remove him from office. Nixon led and directed the now infamous Watergate break-in of Democratic offices.

      B:

      There is no comparison of Trump to Nixon and it wasn't the break in at the Watergate that got him impeached. It was the tapes with the missing 17 minutes that he wouldn't give congress that got him impeached.

      What do you think happened to Nixon?

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      We all know that Trump is greatly irritated by the special investigation

      B:

      Who is All?

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      and is now trying to divert attention away what this investigation may eventually reveal about Trump's involvement.

      B:

      How is he trying to divert attention?

      This investigation is now two years old started in 2015.

      Reveal Trump's involvement in what?

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      Whatever is revealed, Trump is the first president to openly lie about facts that have come out after Trump has made a denial any knowledge of. Too many examples are available, but telling a lie is not a crime. It is certainly bad public policy for the President of the United States.

      B:

      What lies did Trump tell and what were they about?

      Too many examples, yet you didn't mention One?

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      Once the special investigation ends and its findings are known, the ball bounces to Congress to act or do nothing.

      B:

      When will that Mueller investigation end?

      The Russian nationals that he had indicted have been represented in court and plead not guilty. Then Mueller asks the judge for a delay, and the judge says no.

      The job of congress is to determine impeachment if there is a reason. So far there is nothing at all.

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      Let's say, there is evidence that Trump did attempt to obstruct justice in some fashion,

      B:

      No lets not invent a narrative and then speculate on it.

      Where is the obstruction of justice evidence?

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      did talk with key Russian operatives to some degree, knew or directed his sons to talk to Russians or others about Democratic dirt on Clinton.

      B:

      There is no evidence that the Trump Tower meeting with the Russian Lawyer was criminal. And Robert Mueller has yet to even talk to the Russian Lawyer. And that was her words? So how fruitful can this issue be when Mueller doesn't even talk to her?

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      King Trump would simply

      B:

      You were doing so well not name calling, then this!

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      call it BS and call it a witch hunt.

      B:

      You took a what if and then you supply what you think president Trump would say about it.

      Why can you do this and think it is meaningful?

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      What would Congress do? Would impeachment proceedings begin and if so, would there be enough members on both sides to pass this proceeding?

      B:

      What would congress do about your what if, what could they do with it? It is only in your mind.

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      Odds are, any impeachment would be divided down party lines, with some Republicans supporting the unanimous Democrats. Many Republicans would abstain or vote against impeachment because they are Republican. The impeachment proceeding would further divide America and probably would fail, further acerbating tension as Trump would claim vindication.

      B:

      What if? Let me know when it becomes real.

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      Should the proceeding pass, Trump would pardon himself, or try to.

      B:

      You do realize that the Impeachment is a two step process. Bill Clinton was impeached not for using the Oval Office as a motel that you rent by the hour, but for lying about it.

      Right now there isn't even grounds for the first step of the impeachment process, is there?

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      This would also create more division within America

      B:

      The anti Trumpers, especially Hillary Clinton and the democrat party has already created the division and it started when Trump first got into the election. It got worse when he won the election, then even more of a divide when he took the presidential office.

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      because except for Trump's 40% base of followers, the remaining parts of America have a love-hate opinion of him, depending on specific issues

      B:

      Now you are speaking for the country?

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      . Some simply hate Trump for all reasons

      B:

      What reasons?

      And why Hate? Hate is emotional, what did he do to these people that personally affected them to hate him?

      I don't have a clue, can you enlighten me?

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      and just want him out of office by any means,

      B:

      And that included assassination, impeachment without any foundation, and disagreeing with anything that he does, says or even thinks.

      BTW, don't compare Nixon with Trump for impeachment. When Nixon had a special investigated there was a predicate crime that was being investigated.

      For Trump, what is that predicate crime?

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      while others are more in the middle.

      If Trump's statement is true, that he can himself pardon himself for crimes or collusion,

      B:

      Again, that is now what he said.

      What he did say pertained to the powers of the president of the US under the US constitution.

      Also, you might want to look up the impeachment process, and court decisions.

      just a suggestions.

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      God save America

      B:

      Now you want to bring God into the issue?

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      Our country started by those hating the King of England hundreds of years ago fleeing to a new land called America.

      B:

      Red herring alert?

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      President Trump cannot be allowed to become a King of America.

      B:

      Why do you say that?

      What does it mean?

      Why did you write this Article?

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      Shryon

      Tell us again what the SCOTUS said to Nixon and why?

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    • Kathleen Cochran profile image

      Kathleen Cochran 

      3 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Ask the Supreme Court. They said no to Nixon.

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