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NRA: None Rational Action
Seriously This Again
I'm utterly amazed at the sheer amount of fear-mongering that's going on on-behalf of some Republicans and the NRA, in the aftermath of the 23 common sense proposals that President Obama used executive orders to address the problem of gun violence. With all of the noise the NRA & some Republicans are making makes it seem like President Obama is secretly trying to totally take away everybody's gun or their right to own a firearm.
I've not heard anything even remotely close to repealing the 2nd Amendment come from the White House or President Obama directly. So for all of the grandstanding that the NRA or certain Republicans are doing to perpetrate or advance that lie, is utterly ridiculous. The generally unknown fact about the AR-15 a.k.a. Bush-Master AR-15, is that it's a scaled down and modified version of the fully automatic M-16 used commonly by the US Military. So I fail to see the need for such a weapon to be in the hands of the general public for the purpose of hunting or personal protection.
In the hands of a militarily trained person with say several 30 round clips (magazine) it would definitely caused far more fatalities than Virginia Tech, Aurora Movie Theatre, and Sandy Hook combined, possibly in the neighborhood of the Oslo, Norway mass murderer and he also used some explosives as well. My point being what's wrong with more stringent background checks for anyone trying to buy a gun of any caliber. Or limiting the number of rounds in a clip (magazine) to 10 per.
As for someone like myself who's trained to use firearms all I really need is 3 three shots, first is a warning, second non lethal injury and third is the kill shot center mass or head shot. Of course if I'm ever in a gunfight more is better, but guns make a whole lot of noise and I'm counting on someone to call the local law enforcement officers (L.E.O.). Plus I'd have to add at least three additional rounds per additional intruders, perpetrator or suspect to account for whether they're stationary or moving towards me. If the situation is an all out bum-rush I'm going strictly lethal force and steps 1 & 2 are out the window.
But those are only hypothetical scenarios, yet not totally beyond the realm of possibility. As for those individuals with less than perfect mental acuity that should be address on a case by case basis. Private owners should also be required to have background done for any perspective buyer(s) to a private sale. Without question dealers at gun shows should require mandatory comprehensive background checks the same as their retail counterparts. And yes, the assault weapons ban should be re-instated immediately.
Although the details are sketchy at the moment another multiple homicide happened again possibly involving an AR-15 in New Mexico. The local Police have a suspect in custody for questioning but no official charges have been filed yet. Also the suspect is believed to be a teenager, possibly a family member of the victims. But I'll have to check into that story further, and update this at a later date. Oops I almost forgot, banning indefinitely the sale of armor piercing bullets to the general public is or at the very least should be a no-brainer.
But we'll have to wait and see about that. Unlike that stupid PSA the NRA had put out about the President's kids getting armed protection from the US Secret Service in school, schools should be a guns free zone. As if the metal detectors aren't intrusive enough, back in the day we never would have imagined it would come to this type of reality. Yet we have to deal with it anyways, what ever happened to the slogan from the 1960's. "Make Love not War". It's just a thought.
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Say there @ inChristalone it was an honor and learning experience to serve in the military. With regards to the military spending, I'm of the opinion that the likes of Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh or Fox has once again distorted the facts. 1st the spending cuts will come from not being at war in Afghanistan, which has no negligible effect on the strength of our military. Additionally that money will be used to help the veterans who served, with a wide range of issues from transitioning back into civilian job market, re-training, and medical & mental health issues such as PTSD, and depression.
Next, I'm not a woman but I've been told that Planned Parenthood does a hell of a lot more than abortions, like mammagrams, cervical Cancer screening, and a list of other services concerning women's health issues.
Moving on to the gay lifestyle, I adamantly DO NOT agree with it but, I'm not going to judge them for their choices for all of eternity either. I am a live and let live kind of person as long as it doesn't have any personal and immediate repercussions in my life. Besides what 2 consenting adults do in their bedroom behind closed doors is their business.
Thank you for your comments and have a blessed day!
Inchristalone, Although we disagree, I can understand what you have to say when you speak in this manner, and as to policy...There was no tax hike, The payroll tax was set to expire and everyone knew that, nobody hid that from the people, it was never intended to be permanent, and neither were Bush tax cuts, but, Obama made them permanent for those making under $400,000....Second, yes there is some shaking out the kinks going on with Obamacare, because it is set up in stages, as the different attributes work throuh in 2014 and 2016 you will begin to see the full picture, it may hurt a little now, but your children and grand children will have insurance, thanks to Obama...As far as your personal beliefs about gays or abortion, I understand completely, but we must remember, this is America the land of the free, not only free for those who think like us...I also wanted to add, yes, I did not like W, but I showed him respect as our POTUS, when he left office, I let my feelings be known, claiming to be conservative, give the surplus to the rich, start two wars on a credit card and then leave your party to blame the incumbent for the debt, hilarious...And much more, but he is gone now and i need not gush over the past...I respect your opinions, but Sean Hannity and Glen Beck are liars, do some research, use the CBO and the BLS and the IRS, you will be able to see for yourself what his policies are doing, and what they are not doing without the slant of the extremist.
Salvienation: Thanks for your service. I do believe that people look at him as some cult leader because they aren't willing to look at all of the lies he has already told and hold him accountable so we will agree to disagree.
Tammybarnette: It is amazing what you constitute as hate speech. Just for the record, hate speech has nothing to do with disliking someone but rather has to do with speech that leads to the physical harm of an individual or group or potential harm. I have always found it amazing when someone stands up against a democrat and calls them out, it is hate speech by right wing nut jobs who only watch Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. Yet when people on the left were bashing President Bush, it was only because of the horrible job he did and he earned the bashing. Just to clarify, I don't hate the president but I do hate the decisions that he is making that are negatively affecting the world my kids will grow up in. What has he done to my family is what you asked? Here are a couple for you. He raised taxes, not just on the wealthy like he promised but on everybody and when the Obamacare tax hits, I will be paying approximately another 7-10%, but for now, the recent tax hike he imposed is going to cost me another 2400 this year. He is taking my tax money and giving it to Planned Parenthood to help fund the murdering of approximately 4000 unborn children per day. He has taken our military and cut their spending and as a result weakened our nation. He is making a mockery of marriage and trying to teach my kids that a gay lifestyle is normal. That is just the beginning. You will have to excuse me if I don't care for the man or the leader that you and other people like you voted in.
Here is a link for a video of just some of the lies he had told to date.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDDbTaWpwoc
Again, we will agree to disagree on this person.
movingout: Just to be sure, you and I will definitely agree. I don't watch Fox News. I disconnected my cable so as to meet my budget demands which is something that this president and his party have failed to do for four years. I do however listen to guys like Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. I don't personally care for Rush Limbaugh but I have listened to him a few times too. You continue watching CNN and others that are drueling at the feet of the president, like the one that compared his inauguration speech to that of the Gettysburg Address.
Best of luck to you all and as the old saying goes, in time, someone is going to be proven right. We will see in 2016 exactly what kind of man he really is. Be blessed.
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Glad you enjoy it tammybarnette, feel free to read and comment on any of my other Hubs Thank You
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inChristalone as a follower of the Gospels of the Christian faith I'm dismayed by the blatant manner in which you invoke such a notion that we follow the President like a sort of cult. He's a only man, we elected him to serve our interests in what's best for the nation as a whole, not like some kind of messiah figure. That voice that we the people exercised on Nov 06,2012 was an inalienable right granted us by the creator and the US Constitution. Just as it is your 1st amendment right to speak your mind in this open conversation we're having about my Hub. BTW I'm glad that you chose to read my Hub and comment even if I disagree with the logic behind it. Thank you and have a blessed day!
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movingout u r correct, we the poeple spoke out in overwhelming fashion to re-elect President Obama because he represents what is in the interest of the people who elected him to that office
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tammybarnette I couldn't have said it any better than that. What these so called 2nd Amendment protectors conveniently omit from their version, against A WELL regulated militia the right to bear arms shall not be hendered or impaired. I'm paraphrasing the amendment because I can't remember it word for word at this time. LOL!
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Hey movingout I'm glad you grandson and his classmates were unharmed and that individual was promptly apprehended. Thanks for reading my Hub, have nice day Sir!
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tammybarnette I'm glad you enjoyed the Hub, thanks for your comments. I appreciate the honest communication of real people not the distorted truth as dissemenated by the right wing (i.e. Fox News, Rush L., & Glen B.)
@tammybarnette...Thanks! I'm starting to believe the whole country has gone crazy! I'm also praying for the safety of our children.
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See my reply to this comment below.
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First, thank you all for reading my hub. Second, don't look now but you're all exercising your first amendment rights as apart of this discussion.
Now, @ ib radmasters, you're correct on both points you made but the point of the is accessibility of assault weapons and high capacity clips (magazine). Furthermore suicides by gun generally hurts one person at a time unless of course it's a murder/suicide. Gangs are a huge problem, I'll concede that point but it's a gang member(s) ease of access to guns that exponentially increases the problem. What the tougher gun legislation is intended to do is to make it that much harder for criminal types or individuals with a history of mental instability to acquire them. But just like in the days of Prohibition, they'll still manage to find ways to acquire guns illegally. Again the aim of these new proposed gun laws is to establish and enforce harsher penalities for law breakers. That was the issue I was addressing with my Hub
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Movingout, Oh my Lord! I am praying for the safety of our children...
Unbelieveable! The elementary school my grandsons attend was in lockdown for a shooter in the area. Just apprehended the guy with his gun, within shooting distance of the building. And some say there isn't a problem with guns in this country? It can happen anywhere if it happens in this little South Georgia town!
ib, Totally agree that gangs, maphias, cartels, are a HUGE problem and always have been.
gang control and not gun control is the better path to solve the violent crmes.
inChristalone...wow so Christain like? lol So judgemental to call follows of the POTUS a cult? I thought God was the only judge? Perhaps I'm wrong? lol Conspiracy, conspiracy, yup, that must be it. After all, if Fox says it, It has to be true? Kinda like if you read it on the internet it has to be true? lol I don't own an Obama phone, but if youre willing to purchase me one, I wouldn't say no! lol Like Tammybarnette said, please tell us what this President did that is unconstitutional? How has your family been hurt?
inChristalone, This is so interesting to me, I have had a recent conversation with a good Christian woman, but her hate speech is an abomination to her faith, as is yours. It is obvious you are a Christian, due to your hubber name..how on earth can you be so disrespectful to the President of the United States of America! Stop watching Fox news, research for your self and then come back and tell me what this President has done that is unconstitutional, how he has hurt your family, and please provide creditable sources for your accusations. My first posts nals this own the head, the right propaganda machine run perdominatley by Rupert Murdock, is brain washing who USED to be the conservative minded individuals of this land, including many of the Christian base...read your message and see if that sounds at all Christian to you, the total disrespect and disregaurd toward the President of the United States of America...Shameful!
Movingout, I appreciate the fact that you don't know me but yet you have an opinion. If you want to believe that Obama and his cultic following truly have the answers for your life and prosperity, then by all means continue to worship him but I choose not to. He has blied so many times and broken so many promises so far that it is beyond comprehension that people still believe this guy and maybe it is just because they want their free Obama phone. As far as the majority of Americans voted for him, that is still very much in question. NBC, a left leaning organization,bdid a report on voter fraud in states like California and found quite a bit of it. One day if I have time after working to pay for the Obama phones he is handing out, I will try and post some links for you.
The NRA and the assault rifles are red herrings that take the spotlight off of the real problem and that is gangs.
There are over 33,000 multinational gangs in the United States, and they have over 1.4 million gang members. They deal in illegal crimes and their illegal products and services are multibillion dollar businesses.
Even if Obama banned all the weapons, like prohibition it wouldn't stop the gangs from having their weapons.
read my hub on gang control for details or just google gangs.
Compare the number of deaths by guns for suicide versus mass slayings as well. So suicides and gang killings are by far the bigger problem than mass slayings. Also, the underlying crimes committed by the gangs for their business affects are children more directly and in more numbers than guns. That is selling illegal drugs.
Tammybarnette, "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands...".
We are a Constitutional Republic.
@tammybarnette, unfortunately your words are falling on deaf ears! Fear and paranoidness has taken over so much of the Republican Party. So many are grasping at straws, in any attempt, to discredit this President, elected not once but twice, overwhelmingly by the American People!
Inchristalone, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preamble_to_the_Unite...
This country is a Union, The United States of America..E Pluribus Unum...How is Obama disregaurding the Constitution? By the way, The MAJORITY of Americans do not want to stop Obama, they agree with him.
You mean the POTUS that will go down in history as the greatest President in the history of this country? Majority of people want gun laws, he's providing. Problem here is you're on the wrong side and don't like losing! Sometimes referred to as sour grapes! The people voted, and President Obama is our President. The people have spoke!
History should show us by now that no government comes in and takes away all the rights of the people without a fight. What the socialist extremists in Washington want is to lull us to sleep with promises of peace and love. The fact is, there will never be peace, at least not until Jesus is running things again. Until that point, government will continue to try and grow while devouring the rights of the American citizen one right at a time. You can believe whatever you want about this man, but anyone who has perpetrated as many lies and has been as deceitful as this man has in his first four years as well as adjusting the authority granted him by the US Constitution, does not deserve our trust or our respect. Any man who can make Richard Nixon look like a saint has got to be bad.
tammybarnette- Just to make sure, this country is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic which means: A Constitutional Republic is a state where the officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens. The reason people want to stop Obama is because he is disregarding the Constitution even though he promised today to uphold it.
Great hub, The NRA is just another of the many lobbyist groups standing in the way of liberty and democracy. Until the right of America realizes their party has been hijacked by Big Business, nothing can move forward, we stay in a locked stale mate. Anything Obama tries to do they will block and try to spin it to their constituents as a ploy to take our rights away, it's ridiculous. Obama's speech mentioned the letter Ronald Reagan wrote to the Congress in 1994 supporting a ban on military assault weapons. In 2004 the Congress let the legislation expire. Since that time we have moved from position 68 I believe to number 1 in homocides using guns! This is common sense but try to tell that to those believing our 2nd Amendment is under assault. Thanks for a great read:)
The NRA and the assault rifles are red herrings that take the spotlight off of the real problem and that is gangs.
There are over 33,000 multinational gangs in the United States, and they have over 1.4 million gang members. They deal in illegal crimes and their illegal products and services are multibillion dollar businesses.
Even if Obama banned all the weapons, like prohibition it wouldn't stop the gangs from having their weapons.
read my hub on gang control for details or just google gangs.
Compare the number of deaths by guns for suicide versus mass slayings as well. So suicides and gang killings are by far the bigger problem than mass slayings. Also, the underlying crimes committed by the gangs for their business affects are children more directly and in more numbers than guns. That is selling illegal drugs.
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Thanks movingout I'm glad you liked the hub, feel free to check out any of my others hubs anytime you like. I think you'll find them to be interesting at the very least.
Shame the extreme religeous right and teapartiers are working towards the complete demise of the GOP. Fear mongering at best, scaring their elected officials from making common sense decisions! Good hub! Voted up!
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