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The Irish Are a Microcosm of Historic Mixing. Moving Populations Are at Each Other's Borders, but Romance Will Out.

Updated on June 10, 2020
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Christofer spent 10 years in family counseling. Later he obtained a Psy. D.. His focuses: Health, History, Astrology, Politics and Fables

"Them Are Visiting"

The red haired clerk with porcelain skin, south of Moab, A group of Indians came in and purchased items, and then left. Without looking up she said: "Them are them Utes".

The new Irish Catholic family moving into town in the 1800's in New York. "Them are them Sullivans".

The same thing was said by the Tuatha De Danaan about those ancient wood people's "Them are them Firbolgs".

The same thing could be said about Joseph when he came into Egypt. "That's that cute guy from the desert".

A Mythological Female With Horns, You Are Only Likely To Meet At A Circus

We Are Born to Bare has reported proof that Neanderthals and early modern humans interbred. As they observed: "The fact that Neanderthal DNA was not present in the genomes of the two present-day Africans indicates that interbreeding occurred after some root population of early modern humans had left Africa, but before the species evolved into distinct groups in Europe and Asia."

Neanderthal Married Into Cro Magnon Relationships

Why not? The Neanderthals had been around for over 100,000 years. That's a long time. This Cro Magnon group looked different. Had more tools. Better living conditions.

They Succeeded Sexually and Romantically. But They Are Still Extinct.

It's still a mystery as to why the Neanderthals faded from the scene, but most assuredly it was not a lack of sexual or romantic interest. Genetic differences may actually create interest, but be that as it may, the basic drive for love, companionship, children, family and grandchildren is physiologically and psychologically inherent.

Sex and Love Become Interesting

The Neanderthals failed, not because the Cro Magnons excluded them from any contact - obviously. The story always gets more interesting when it involves sex and love.

The Irish - A Micro Story of the World

This one little island is a fascinating example of these concepts about assimilation, conflict, love and romance.

First, when the original original Irish were there, they were shorter darker haired and very "at home" in the deep dark woods. They migrated to Ireland after the last ice age (circa 10,000 BC). When the Iberian (Spanish) Irish made their big move, probably from Mediterranean homes, about 2000 BC - The Tuatha De Danann sailed from Spain to Ireland. The Tuatha De Danann classified the original people in tales (leprechauns and the like) as time went on. But in reality, they were known as the Firbolgs. They were just very different from these "sophisticated" Irish.

Fast Forward 50 Years On St. Patrick's Day

The Irish ability to become American is probably one of the more impressive stories in history. And it is really the specific purpose of this article. Sex and romance are inevitable, joyous and wonderfully and terribly human. Assimilation is what takes the effort. Take a snapshot of the Present. You would swear the Irish were the original settling peoples who everyone aspires to be related to. Actually, it's really more of a truly American statement. "Hey they drink and have a Saint who skedaddled the serpents out of Ireland. It gives us an excuse to party and wear green and be completely assimilated. Who's gonna say I don't have Irish blood anyway?"

"Who Is Gonna Say I don't Have Irish Blood Anyway?"

Let's be honest. America is a miscegenistic country. Just as soon as someone wants to call themselves pure Puritan stock, someone ups and marries someone of a different hue. The Irish are known for being, let us say, "culturally tolerant" in their marital choices. (Forgive me, if you differ). But then that is the whole history of Ireland.

Neanderthals, Pariahs and The Irish

Forgive for the covering of umpteen thousands of years. Since now we know that the Neanderthals and the Cro Magnons did intermarry, we can come to a new observation.

The point is that our problems are not whether people can grow to love one another. Our problems have to do with culture and assimilation.

Whatever happens, it gets down to being able to work with each other after we have loved each other. It is just an axiom of history that romance finds it way (Romeo and Juliet and other such tales), and then they get married, instead of committing suicide. Their kids get new names and new last names and different in-laws. Next generation, the process keeps going and children get better educations and choose different occupations.

We had an African American President -- Barak Obama. It is historic, but also a natural event. Stories of breakthroughs are amazing and inspiring, but still there will always be differences.

There Will Always Be Differences

The same thing could be said about Lot when he came into Sodom and Gommorah. "Them are them hill people". The same thing could be said by the Italians around 1300 BC, when poor immigrants who would eventually become the Romans, landed in their boats: "Them are them immigrants from the destroyed City of Troy". And when the English settlers from Roanoke joined a local Indian tribe, the other Indians said of them: "Them are them blonde-haired, blue-eyed, bearded Indians from Roanoke."

The same thing could be said about the Neanderthals when they camped next to the Cro Magnons for the first time. "Them are them Neanderthals, funny lookin' aint they?" A pause and a giggle: "No, I think they are kind of cute."

Love and Relationships

Lion Tamer

Isaac van Amburgh, an American lion tamer of Iroquois extraction, took London by storm in 1838-9 with his daring performances at venues such as the Drury Lane Theatre and Astley's Amphitheatre.

Queen Victoria was a great admirer of the show, remarking that 'you can never see it too often, for it is different each time.' (Journal, 29 January, 1839). Indeed she attended seven times over a period of six weeks, and on one occasion stayed behind to watch the animals being fed.

© 2010 Christofer French


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      Christofers Flow 

      5 years ago

      That is the tag line for the guaranteed perpetuation of the human race. Thanks Dolores

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      Dolores Monet 

      5 years ago from East Coast, United States

      Oh married sharried! I love your last line, "I think they're kinda cute."

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      morgaine's Well 

      9 years ago

      This statement that neanderthals and cro magnon married, is not necessarily accurate. It appears from science, they interbred. Of that we can be fairly certain. (Though not 100% certain, I would like for example to see a genome project of X Woman, and many of the other varieties of sapien running around europe and asia prior to and during Neanderthal. I would also like a genome project done on erectus. It seems to me, there is another way we could all share this small amount of genes. We are all as homo sapiens related to Erectus. Which is our predecesor. It could be that the shared ancestry of both homo sapien and neanderthal is to blame.) However, it is likely as well there was interbreeding. But this does not mean they were "married".

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      carlos lascoutx 

      9 years ago

      ...robert graves in his mythologys says Zeus drove his

      father, Chronus, to an isle near britain, and that Chronus/time was the youngest Titan=titlani(N)=messenger,

      one of the names of Promethean Neander. the greek for

      Titan, meaning giant=jaiant(OFr)=j/g/ca i(l)ant/li(letra)=ca/being old lady/ilantli(Nauatl)=i(s)lantli=i(r)lant-li


      if we posit Chronus as Neander, of the ilantli/old

      goddess race, then who is Zeus? well, an Aryan skygod

      first known to the greeks as a snake, making him scion

      of the weaving deity, Lady Birdsnake of Belgrade and the Danube/Donau/Duna/Tuna=Tonatiuh(N)=Sungod/Anthony,

      7k bce, wind and weaving Venus(the second, first being

      Deer/Venison), in fact, Grave's White Goddess of the

      North, Ehecatl/Ecatl(N)=Hecate, the first muse, and later

      Proto-Mary, mother of 3-rd proto-christ, Quetzalcoatl.

      for a transfer of Hecate's powers to Mary, cf., San

      Apollinari mosaic, Ravenna, Italy, 5c ad, which begins

      the rise of that great excess of the RCC, Mariology.

      Zeus, then, descends from Hecate, making him a brother

      of Quetzalcoatl, the master craftsman, who was a global

      voyager, 3309 bce in Amerinda, a phoenican who sailed out

      of Gupizcoa, began Egypt, and probably China. the language he used was Nauatl, from my particle research

      all other languages are pieces of this language, cf.,

      isbn 968-23-0573-x/rémi siméon/Nauatl, and, japonica,

      which has a strong streak of basque/spanish is entirely Nauatl, c. 2k bce, as sailors, and in Amerinda as the

      Olmec Rain wizards, Lords of Mexico. yeow!

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      9 years ago

      And also, very enjoyable and informative article.

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      9 years ago

      I had better approve of them, my father was all Irish, my mother Chech and Italian. My kids asked me which nationality they were, and I said: Irish, Chech, Italian, German, English, Swedish, French Canadian and Native American. At least, those are the ones we know about. You might say my family are great romantics.

      One question. Legends abound about the "faeries" kidnapping mortals and having children with them. Do you think this has some basis in fact - the invaders and the Firbolgs having babies? Or just a legend explaining why people went missing in the woods? I don't suppose there is any DNA information on this?

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      11 years ago from san mateo

      I approve of these goings on.


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