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President-elect Donald Trump - Good or Bad News for South Africa?

Updated on December 19, 2016
Donald Trump, President-elect, USA
Donald Trump, President-elect, USA

Donald Trump’s election to President of the United States on November 9th sent shock waves through America and the rest of the world, as political analysts and especially the media had convinced everybody that Hillary Clinton would be America's next president.

South Africans, too, were dumbstruck with surprise and uncertainty when Donald Trump's votes started to exceed Clinton's. With Hillary in control not much would change, but who knows what would be the consequences of Donald Trump's efforts to make America great again?

Change is always tough. Even for those who see themselves as agents of change, the process of starting a new thing can cause times of disorientation, uncertainty and insecurity.

— Joyce Meyer

While South Africa’s wealthiest people happened to score millions since Donald Trump took the lead in the election, South Africa’s economy suffered the results of a collapsing Rand. Economists predict no good news for SA under a Trump-administration.

Peter Vale, Professor of Humanities and Director of the Johannesburg Institute for Advanced Study (JIAS), thinks that Donald Trump is going to be intolerant and disinterested in issues around the domestic politics of African countries.

Even one of South Africa’s most beloved comedians, Pieter-Dirk Uys, has no idea what to expect from 'the Donald'.

Nevertheless, Donald Trump being elected as America's 45th president, was most certainly the most noteworthy news of the week.

Meanwhile in South Africa

Torrential rains caused mayhem in Johannesburg

On November 9th – the day Donald Trump was elected President of the United States, torrential rains and flash floods caused havoc in and around Johannesburg. Several people went missing after their vehicles were washed away. By Saturday afternoon seven people had been confirmed dead, including a man who was struck by lightening while hiding under a tree. Two 3-year old girls from a community immigrants from Zimbabwe, who had erected shacks on the banks of the Jukskei River, are still missing.

Floods, Johannesburg, November 9, 2016

White people again threatened by Julius Malema

Julius Malema, the leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters (third largest political party in SA), appeared in court on November 7th after inciting his followers to grab land that belongs to whites. Malema said his party is on a mission to disturb the white man’s peace, as white men found peaceful Africans (way back in the 17th century) and killed them like animals.

"White man has been too comfortable for too long.... White minority be warned, we will take our land no matter what," he threatened from the steps of the court.

The court case against him has been postponed, as his lawyers asked permission to challenge the Act he has violated in the High Court.

The Riotous Assemblies Act Nr. 17 of 1956 prohibits gatherings in open-air public places if the Minister of Justice believes they could endanger the public peace. It also prohibits the engendering of feelings of hostility between European and non-European inhabitants.

If Malema succeeds in his efforts to scrap this law, a new law against hate crimes and hate speech will be implemented soon. The bill is available for public opinion on the website of the Department of Justice until December 1, 2016.

Julius Malema
Julius Malema | Source



On November 7th former Public Protector, Thuli Madonsela, also released an audio of her meeting with President Zuma in order to prove that he was lying when he said she didn’t give him an opportunity to respond to the allegation against him. Two days later the presidency told Madonsela to step back as she has no further role to play in the process regarding her report.

Following the release of her report the 7th motion of no-confidence in President Zuma - has been tabled - the 3rd time since January 2016. On Thursday, November 10th, the ANC again used its 62% majority in parliament in favor of their president, Jacob Zuma.

The resignation of Eskom’s CEO (Brian Molefe) is another result of the “Capture of State” report. According to the report Molefe's cell phone records revealed 58 phone calls from him to Ajay Gupta between August 2015 and March 2016. For some reason or another Molefe chose resignation above a formal inquiry.


Opinion of an owfma-sa

Re: President-elect, Donald Trump - To be honest, I ‘voted’ for Hillary Clinton, and I believed the prediction of the media that she would be the United State's next President. So, Mr. Trump's victory left me totally flabbergasted. As a matter of fact, I’m still not ‘over it’. The last time I’ve been this shocked about an international event was when Lady Di died in a car crash. Although there is no comparison between the two events, my mind (and body) suffered the same kind of shock.

Nevertheless, Donald Trump is going to be America’s next president. Being an open-minded optimist, I hope with all my heart that the changes he plans to initiate will be for the better.

Re: Julius Malema’s threats to white South Africans – By now we are actually used to Malema's racist utterances, so all I see in my crystal ball is a bloody civil war, especially after reading Solly Moeng's article, "Why SA doesn't need Julius Malemas". “Malema is both naïve and irresponsible if he believes that whites will act like sitting ducks and just let him and his supporters rob them while they cower in fear,” Solly reckoned. I can but only hope that God will bless each and every South African with insight, vision and wisdom.

Every time the media turns their spotlight on Julius Malema and his doings I remember Jesus’ instruction,But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you!” (Matt 5:44). This forces me into a ring where I have to challenge my own shortcomings.

Re: The unsuccessful no-confidence vote in President Zuma - I have no idea why the ANC keeps Jacob Zuma in the President's Chair, while they found it so easy to get rid of former president Mbeke without any significant reasons. Obviously they have a lot to lose when they turn their back on the Zuma. One day, hopefully, this riddle will be explained.

Molefe's resignation - Why resign if one has no reason to fear a formal inquiry, I would like to know.

Of course, my opinions have no value. I am only an owfma-sa - a white female middle-aged South African.

Let's enjoy 10 amazing facts about South Africa


President-elect Donald Trump - good or bad news for South Africa? Update 25 November 2016

White, right-winged South Africans are hopeful after President-elect Donald Trump announced that Governor Nikki Hayley of South Carolina would be the USA’s new ambassador to the UN. Their hope is based on Hayley’s reaction to the controversial Charleston church shooting and the nationwide call for the old Confederate flag of the southern states (regarded by liberals as a symbol of white superiority) to be banned – she defended the historical value of the flag and expressed her concern about racial laws impoverishing minority groups. As she has distant family ties in South Africa, she may also be concerned about the whites in SA who are a minority group suffering the consequences of racial laws.

Right-winged whites still bewail President Obama’s ambassador to SA, Patrick Gasspard’s hatred for whites. Gasspard repeatedly proved to have an association with the far left, anti-white political party, the EFF.

© 2016 Martie Coetser


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    • Robert Sacchi profile image

      Robert Sacchi 

      2 years ago

      Thank you for the information. It seems a good general rule to use the guided tour method when visiting a foreign country.

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      Martie Coetser 

      2 years ago from South Africa

      @ Robert - SA is a beautiful country. On my profile you will find many photo tours that will give you a pretty good idea what to expect during a visit. Unfortunately, SA's crime rate is of the highest in the world and therefor you should not visit the country on your own, as you have no idea what areas you should avoid. If you don't have family/friends down here, you should rather be guided by a professional tour agency, or you may contact me.

      @ Genna - From a distance it looks as if Donald Trump encourages disrespect between fellow-Americans instead of respect. I hope with all my heart he will surprise all of you/us by doing the right things the right way. SA was well on its way to become a successful democracy until Jacob Zuma with 783 charges of fraud and corruption against him became president in 2008. Since then we are seeing the bare truth in the saying 'one rotten apple spoils the barrel'. Between a corrupt government and too many criminals of all sorts law-abiding citizens are being squeezed into a state of despair. Thanks for appreciating my opinion :)

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      Genna East 

      2 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

      I am so grateful this election season is over. All we can do is "fasten our seat-belts," and hope by some miracle, the better angels of his nature (and his family's) prevail. As President Obama stated, "I'm an optimist." But the world is changing. I am saddened by the troubles that So. Africa is experiencing. Time not only tells, but can also heal. And by the way, your opinions most certainly matter!

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      Robert Sacchi 

      2 years ago

      Interesting article and a very nice video. The two present a mixed picture of South Africa. The video shows a nice tourist spot but the article gives the impression there is trouble down the line starting with property confiscation. Is it a place to visit or a place to avoid?

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      Martie Coetser 

      2 years ago from South Africa

      Shyron E Shenko – Some people are still missing after the flood – among other a 3-year old girl and 40 year-old mother of five. Swept away into the river. God knows where they are now.

      At the speed Donald Trump is now creating a supremacist cabinet one has to presume that there is no hope that members of the Electoral College will vote against him in December. So, I am very concerned about the future of the USA and the entire world. Mr Trump keeps on exposing supremacist and racist tendencies, forcing the USA decades back in time. I can’t wrap my mind over this!

      So, he is going to turn the White House into the head office of his private establishment. Oh, I can smell a trillion rats!

      Honestly, I try to be positive, but everything I hear about Donald Trump arouses only negative visions and anxiety. I wish I could return to the time when I had no interest in politics!

      Shyron, you are always welcome to rant in the comment sections of my hubs :)

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      I read your reply to Nellieanna, and I do not believe that trump will address the wrongs in our country, I believe he is the wrongs in our country.

      trump said he will make America great again, just like George W. Bush said he would bring dignity and honor back to the White House and all he did was strip our Social Security surplus to fund his personal war with Iraq and get into a recession, and brought dishonor to America.

      Donald trump will do much more damage, to the whole world.

      Sorry for the rant, but it needed to be said.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Dear Martie, I am so sorry for the flooding in your country, and pray that it recedes fast.

      I too was shocked beyond belief that Hillary Clinton did not win, she has the most votes, but the Electoral College chose trump. Mr. trump is the greediest man that ever lived and unless he can make mega bucks from your country he is highly unlikely to do anything for or against South Africa.

      We need to find out who appointed each member of the Electoral College and hold them accountable for picking the loser of this race instead of the winner. We can only hope and pray that they change their vote on December 19 to reflect the votes by and for the people of America.

      Yesterday 11/14/16 Donald trump asked for TOP SECURITY CLEARANCES for his 4 adult children so that they can run the family business from the White House. Talk about a conflict of interest.

      It looks like Mr. trump can/has/will get away with any crime he chooses to commit.

      I am saying prayers for both our countries.

      Blessings and hugs dear friend

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      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      Hi, dear Sunshine - I see a dark future in my crystal ball. Not only for the USA and SA, but for the entire world. So sad - making a mess of his very first opportunity to make America great again by appointing an all-white transition team. I keep on telling my fellow-SA'ns that all people are victims of a head of states and his government. I am wishing you the best, and lots of strength and patience.

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      Linda Bilyeu 

      3 years ago from Orlando, FL

      SAA, I am wishing South Africa the best. You continue to shine as the South African Ambassador and continue to inform us and the rest of the world of the events taking place there. You are appreciated and I think you are due for a pay raise! As for the Good Ole USA...time will tell, but at this point I intend to block out any mention of DT and as of this comment his all white transition team. Oh my!

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      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      Dear kallini - Predictions actually provide false security, like a small light in a very dark tunnel, or a crutch one can use while climbing a rocky mountain. However, there is a saying that we fear what seldom if ever happens. Predictions merely decrease or increase this fear.

      Well, for more than 20 years we hear all kinds of threats coming from black racists, and we are constantly under attack. But interesting, the attackers are mainly colourblind, and actually inherent criminals who will project their evil urges on any soft target. We can but only try to protect ourselves to the best of our ability.

      Yes, climate changes wreak havoc all over the world. It is not going to change; we have to adapt.

      Here's to many more years of friendship (hic) ....

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      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      Nellieanna - as always I agree wholeheartedly with you. Talking about individuals. What about Donald Trump's businesses? Surely he will, or perhaps may not, run them while he is running the USA? I'm curious about this. Watching intervies with him, I can clearly see he is determined to address the wrongs in your country, like illegal immigrants and drug dealers, excessive imports and taxes, and everything that prevents USA citizens from thriving. Perhaps a year from now everybody will thank him for what he had managed to achieve. Hopefully :)

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      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      Alicia, they say nothing is new. What is, was, and will be again. Nowadays everything is uncovered, visible on TV for the world to see. I'm sorry about the unrest in the USA following the election. May everybody calm down soon, accept reality and make the best of it.

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      3 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Dear Martie:

      I thoroughly enjoyed the video about South Africa, I thought it was the best piece (especially, the part about frikadelen and some such, we have "frikadelen" of our own yum-yum).

      I don't like hearing that you call yourself "ordinary" and that your opinions have no value. I disagree, but you know me, the day I will agree has not come and will never come.

      I don't know if I mentioned my "newsworthy" news - I was called a disruptor or disturber or some such, a pain in an area of your choosing. Yes, that seems about right. But, oh! it's a good thing! Is it?

      I have to say that I cannot judge events on day-to-day basis. I need perspective and perspective calls for rolling back the camera and time.

      What I can say about Trump and expectations - never believe predictions. Predictions, especially by experts are only 50-50 percent accurate which means they are as good as a coin toss. I was apprehensive of the possibility of Trump's winning the election because people used to laugh at him. It was a really bad sign. When you laugh, you are happy and defenseless. Laughter is bonding, so, essentially, people, unbeknownst to themselves, were "bonding" with Trump. It does not matter that they were laughing "at" him thinking that they despised him. We like people who make us laugh. Hillary, on the other hand, did not make anyone laugh, but she felt like a phony because she is.

      Now we have to see what will happen.

      To answer your question whether Trump is a good or bad news - nobody knows and nobody can predict ANYTHING.

      The rest of the South African news - the floods are here because of climate change and my prediction is that more is to come. That is sad, but again we have to wait to see the change - either good or bad. Nobody can predict anything.

      The news about blacks taking back what's been taken from them - I would not be too comfortable about that either - that kind of things have to be taken seriously. "In case if it happens, what shall we do?"

      There is a piece of advice I got many, many years ago when I complained that "can you imagine, he said that and this about me?" The person with more knowledge and experience said, "But maybe he is right." He was to a point.

      I'm not saying I know any answers. I'm sharing what I think. And if the only thing I do is making other people think - I believe I make a difference.

      So, no, you are not ordinary, you never were and your opinions count.

      My best wishes to you, to your loved ones and to your beautiful country.


      P.S. I feel honoured to have you as my friend and I shall mark it on the calendar - the anniversary - when the relationship goes for five years - it's worth celebrating!

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      Nellieanna Hay 

      3 years ago from TEXAS

      I much agree with Bill's advice to fasten our seat belts. It is going to be a bumpy ride and one hopes that is the extent of it. Taming the Pres.-elect has not been effective in any capacity of his 70 yrs., which was I started out with trepidation when he descended the tower escalator to announce his intention to set his sites on this highest capacity. But I also hold fast to the idea of seeing it through now that it's in the works. This IS the same person as the kid that had to be sent off to military school when young.

      As you went on to say, the big wheel (world) keeps turning and one's own life keeps unfolding. Each produces effects. But one cannot allow events in the one to determine the sensitivities in the other. We can expect that they'll both proceed on for their durations. And while we may not have a huge effect individually on world events, we DO have a much of the say and 'to do with' the personal life we're living. Values we express there might even overshadow some of those objectionable in the world's. For sure, our own certainly will and do for each of us. Still, when we can, we need to reach out with effects and values. It's part of one's responsibility. Hugs.

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      Linda Crampton 

      3 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

      The first sentence in btrbell's comment sums up my feelings about the current situation. We are living in difficult times. The South African flash floods looks horrible, Martie. I'm glad that you're continuing to report the news about your country. Your opinions definitely do have value!

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      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      @ SallyBea - Thanks! Now I know :) I believe your family in Jhb was not trapped in the storm :)

      @ Nellieanna - Your lovely comment eliminated all my doubts about this series. I do believe your Constitution, Laws and the entire Republican Party will tame the Donald or at least keep him incarcerated in an invisible cage. In the meanwhile, let's follow billybuc's advice, buckle up and enjoy the ride :)

      @ Always - I believe in the Big Wheel that keeps on turning. Things happen. One thing leads to another. There is not much we can do about the trend of events. What we can do, is love and respect each other, and support where support is needed. God bless you too, dear Ruby :)

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      Ruby Jean Richert 

      3 years ago from Southern Illinois

      I'm surprised that I can type through anger, fear and the unknown. I certainly do not know if Trump has any holdings in SA, but I wouldn't be surprised if he and your president are buddies in your natural resources, like diamonds or anything of value. The flooding is horrible, makes one wonder, " When is enough? " When I think about all the evil going on all over the world, I must stop and remind myself that God still rules. That is a comfort to me. Stay safe Martie. And please know that I have you in my prayers. God bless my friend.

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      Nellieanna Hay 

      3 years ago from TEXAS

      Your writing and reporting is outstanding, dear Martie. I so admire your grasp of the politics and affairs in your country. You do an excellent job of describing it. Too bad you're not in government!

      I am somewhat hesitant to anticipate if or what Trump would do in regard to South Africa. It hasn't seemed to be a prime policy focus in the past and he seems less inclined, rather than more inclined, toward concern about countries which don't interact too greatly with his businesses or in obvious international ways.

      But predicting the man is surely unrealistic other than regarding his basic personality, which even his closest advisors don't or can't control - and he doesn't want to do so, himself. This morning he's back 'at it' on social media. So pray for us. Hugs.

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      Sally Gulbrandsen 

      3 years ago from Norfolk

      Martie my family are in Johannesburg and also Kwa Zulu Natal.

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      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      @ shanmarie – really, being stuck in a flood, or being swept away, must be a terrifying experience. May it never become my lot. No floods in my area, but still suffering severe drought and strong winds. Yesterday a small tornado wreaked havoc in a neighboring town – and to think tornadoes are not regular occurrences down here.

      @ mckbirdbks – Thank you, Mike. The comparisons between SA and the USA may increase now, as we both have unpopular presidents. The power of your electoral college still boggles my mind. What if some of those electors switch their Trump ballots in December and elect Clinton? How many faithless electors do you need to change the vote from Trump to Clinton? Oh dear, I suppose that would be another shock!

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      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      @ billybuc – Politics is truly a captivating soap opera, containing all genres – horror, comedy, suspense, drama, etc. Quite addictive. Yes, let’s enjoy the ride :)

      @ suzettenaples – Trump is supposed to ensure those angry people that they’re not going to lose anything. Where is he? Why doesn’t he come forward and addresses them? On the other hand, will they listen to him? In the past I used to refer to the Western world as ‘civilized’, following civilized procedures when airing and tabling their grievances. I can’t do this any longer. Angry people, no matter where they live and who they are, tend to be primitive, dangerous, destructive and actually self-destructive. As much as I did not expect DT to win the election, I didn’t expect those demonstrations of protests. Take care, Suzette, and thank you for the encouragement :)

      @ My dearest marcoujor – I’ve read an interesting article about history telling us what’s going to happen. Quite scary! I have to remind myself over and over again that I am an optimist and not a pessimist. But did you know a pessimist is often a well-informed optimist? Lol!

      Thank you so much for all those hugs and love. I do feel it, and they make me smile with joy and gratefulness :) Love you too, my dear sista :)

      @ btrbell – I appreciate you encouragement tremendously. I do think it is nice to know more than just the geographical facts about another country. Personally I find the history and news of other countries totally fascinating. Sadly, the media presents only the sensational, which is usually the most terrifying. I hope some of my noteworthy news will be about good stuff. Mmmm, I guess I am rather a soulful and amorous idealist than an optimist. Thank you for your prayers. I’m also praying for you. May God save the entire world.

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      3 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

      You have become quite the SA journalist and are keeping us all informed of the news, and mood in your country.

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      Shannon Henry 

      3 years ago from Texas

      I guess it was about a year ago now. Last Thanksgiving night on my way home from work. I don't really have to imagine what it's like. I could feel my truck rocking as the water came in and, believe me, I imagined plenty about what it might be like as I was stranded in the middle of the flood waters. It's pretty damn scary how fast they come from nowhere. I think I might have been lucky I got stuck in the ditch, except that because of that, I couldn't get out of the flood area before the water got too high. But being stuck kept me from floating off. The most terrifying thing was wondering if I made the right choice to stay inside and knowing there was no other alternative without it being guaranteed I'd be swept off to who knows where and I can't swim very well. Hearing of deaths afterward. To hear about deaths of others afterwards, I wasn't sure what to feel. I feel so sad for the woman you mention and her family. All of the people you say are missing still. Are you experiencing flooding where you are?

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      Randi Benlulu 

      3 years ago from Mesa, AZ

      The future is uncertaim at best, terrifying at worst. I'm with Bill. Buckle your seatbelts. Martie, I so enjoy your hubs. They are informative and insightful. You share the good, the not so good and the incredibly important. Thank you for your perspective. Thinking and praying for everyone.

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      Martie Coetser 

      3 years ago from South Africa

      @ FlourishAnyway – During the past years Donald Trump had made a couple of negative remarks about SA, therefor I know he doesn’t have any insight in, or tolerance with, Africans and their unique social issues.

      SA’s government has already teamed up with China and Russia via the Bricks Bank -

      So, if DT destroys the USA’s existing relationship with African countries, African governments will be compelled to strengthen their bonds with China and Russia.

      I am not a professional political analyst, but somehow my 6th sense tells me that DT can only make ‘America great again’ - great for Americans alone – when he indirectly makes Russia ‘great’ for the rest of the world.

      Anyway, let us not be negative. After all, what will be, will be. As individuals we have only (hopefully) 70 years to make our own lives great.

      @ sallybea - Oh, down here it is one step forward, two steps backward. Between corrupt and incompetent politicians/leaders/managers and ill-bred, unscrupulous thugs we are getting nowhere. Where is your family, Sally?

      @ fpherj48 - Just knowing that I am in your thoughts makes me strong. Like when I was the shortest girl in my class, but the cheekiest just because I knew I had stronger friends behind me.

      Well, I believe Donald Trump will be the one who will send his army to rescue whites from Malema & Kie. The latter is extremely dangerous, as they are mainly the ignorant and adventure-seeking youth and far-left activists. They are in fact a force that reminds me of a flood. They may very well win the 2019 election, and then it will be the end of Europeans, like it was the end for them in Zimbabwe when Mugabe encouraged land grabbing. BTW, the last time Mugabe was here (April, 2015), when a white journalist approached him, he turned his face away and said, “I don’t want to see any white faces.” Malema is SA’s Mugabe. Here is the video –

      Thank you so much for your continuous support, dear fpher :)

      @ shanmarie Thank you! I do have doubts about this series, you know. Not sure if it belongs in Hubpages, or if any non-South Africans have any interest in what happens down here. The future will tell.

      Well, Obama surprised all of you/us, and especially his wife; so, let’s give the Donald and his wife a fair chance. We have no choice, do we? Somehow I know the time has come for radical changes, and it should begin in the USA.

      I thought of you when I read about the floods. I’m, so sad about the people who had drowned. Imagine, sitting in your car, in heavy traffic, waiting for a traffic light to turn green, and here comes a flood turning your car into a swirling coffin. Chilling! They discovered the body of an 8-months pregnant woman this morning. I believe she was still inside her car, which was swept away by the flood.

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      Maria Jordan 

      3 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

      I'll agree with Suzette that your opinions most certainly do matter, dear Martie.

      As my crystal ball is in the repair shop, I will hold fast to the adage: 'time will tell' - both in the United States and South Africa.

      I am heartsick about the effects of the torrential rains in Johannesburg, also occurring this week. You show how perspectives and priorities can change considering 'where' we are - both environmentally and internally.

      I hope you feel my hugs, love and protectiveness of you - I am forever praying for your safety. Love you so much, mar

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      3 years ago

      Martie: Your opinions do matter! Don't ever think they don't. This is a wonderful article. Unfortunately, both of our countries are in a period of unrest which causes fest and anxiety. The majority of Americans are shell shocked and in mourning for what could have been. Fortunately, the protestors in our major cities are sending a message to Trump that he is ignoring. God help us!

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      Bill Holland 

      3 years ago from Olympia, WA

      About the only thing I can say about the results of this election is things are going to get real interesting, and I don't mean that in a good way. Strap on the seatbelts and get ready for one hell of a ride. :)

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      Shannon Henry 

      3 years ago from Texas

      Wow, Martie. I think I enjoy your journalism style more than many of the most popular sources. Unfortunately, I don't think people considered the rest of the world when voting, though this is not surprising. I didn't expect him to win either, but I thought it would be a closer race than predicted. I hope the man will surprise us all and at the very least, be able to effectively manage his staff so that they can advise him well. And he needs to listen to them, of course, too.

      The flood situation is so sad. It's always sad I hear of those situations. And a little scary to me, too, ever since I got caught in a flash flood. Please stay safe if you too are dealing with flooding. And stay safe from all the other chaos as well.

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      3 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      Martie....I have no words to express my concern for the frightening So. African situation. I'm simply at a loss for how you, my dear friend and your countrymen are able to deal with this ongoing threat.

      What the new POTUS (or even Ms Clinton, had it been her) can or will do in terms of So. Africa, remains to be seen. The average Americans, like myself, would be disingenuous at best and foolish at worst to speculate, (certainly at this point). I'm sure you would know better if, in fact, your government has implored a form of assistance from the USA.

      The images of the flooding in Johannesburg are an overwhelming sight!

      Martie, please be ever-vigilant and keep yourself safe until there is successful action taken to dampen the evil forces (Malema) causing such fear and chaos in your beloved country.

      Sadly, it is clear that we all have reason to struggle against those who would harm us and disrupt our treasured ways of life.

      I'm always with you as you remain in my thoughts and my heart.

      Peace & Love, Paula

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      Sally Gulbrandsen 

      3 years ago from Norfolk

      We were as shocked as you were Martie but not probably not surprised. It was a little like watching Brexit happen all over again.

      I really can't imagine how 2 people so despised by so many people managed to get themselves to a position where people had to vote for one or the another and now they complain!

      More shocking were those images of cars being swept down the road in Johannesburg.

      One thing is for sure, things are not improving in South Africa. It makes me feel sad and very concerned for my family still left behind there.

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      3 years ago from USA

      Unless he has business interests there, I doubt he knows where South Africa is or if he can tell you anything about it. Somewhere along the way, we needed a competency pop quiz about foreign relations but oh well. Now we have another dufus in the White House. A man who has made this many enemies and enraged this many people is not good for the world. I'm so dejected.


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